Sadie Summers Interview

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Hot Wife Podcast Hello, everybody. This is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wife Podcast. I'm here again with my wonderful husband, Vince. Oh, you're such a liar. Now we're close to each other. I can smack you. This is great. This is a treat. Isn't it? A treat. All right. No, more importantly. I know, more importantly. Go ahead. Okay, we have- I fail in comparison, so. I know. We have a wonderful guest with us today. I'm not sure. It is Sadie Summers. Is that what the- Okay. Okay. That's good. Thank you very much. I thought you had a middle name juice. Was that something I'm.

So Sadie juice is my only fans. Okay. I was wondering like where they came in. I was like, okay. That's his nickname. Yeah. So that started off as a couple's account. So that's where Sadie juice came from. But my stage name is Sadie summer. Okay. I was hoping she was a squirter. I was wondering. Unfortunately, there's only one man. in my entire career that's ever made me squirt. Oh, lucky man. He's a very lucky man. Probably the luckiest man in the world. I'm not a squirter either. In fact, only Vince made me kind of squirt once. Twice, yep. I don't remember.

And sometimes I think it was just honestly because I was so wet and like how fast it was going that it shot out rather than like a true like squirt. It looked amazing. It felt amazing. I was coming. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, it matters, right? Honestly, that's all that matters. It was more of an ooze than a squirt. Yeah, I'm an oozer. To me, that's much hotter. It's all good. It's way hot. You can't fake an ooze. It's so genuine. There's this one Russian girl that I love watching on Pornhub and she exclusively oozes when her pussy clenches. She'll ooze a little bit and it's so hot. I love it.

Just knowing that the performers are actually truly enjoying themselves is much hotter than the whole stage thing. And it's very scripted and very, you know, there's a storyline and a plot. I, you know, those days are gone. I totally agree. I totally agree. I'd like to know that the people are really having fun together. So now you, you started porn when you said when you were 19. Yeah, I was 19 years old and I was really curious about it. So essentially I seeked it out on Craigslist and away I went. Yeah. Whoa, that's pretty bold. That's pretty bold. I know I started being a stripper at 19.

I would, jumping into the sex realm. I don't know if I would have done that. Of course, people thought, oh my God, you're a stripper. Oh, that's, you know, you're so edgy and this and that. It's like, you're just going up and dancing. Like nobody's really, you know, really touching you. I mean, not really. I mean, they grew up. Well, now you've talked about plenty of times how you had a very high sexual prowess. I did. I did. But dancing was just easier. Dancing, you're in front of a lot of people you might not necessarily want to think of sexually. It's still exciting, though.

It's still very exciting. So was porn something you did intentionally then? Yeah, absolutely. It was completely intentional from the beginning.

I was always really curious about my sexuality, and I felt that I've always been kind of keen to the fact that there's people in this world that are going take advantage of you and that are going to be nice to you and I thought porn is kind of a safe space to explore that knowing that there would be naively like videographers and producers and directors thinking that having all those people around would make a safe space it does not but the fact that I'm smart and streetwise I'd say I can easily identify if a situation feels off I just wouldn't partake so other than the fact that I sussed it out on Craigslist it was actually like pretty above board it felt very professional.

Wow, that's unusual. I would think that the exact opposite would happen, especially Craigslist. Oh, we know now Craigslist. But this was all that there was, really. We didn't have Instagram or maybe Twitter. I was not using it if we did, but we didn't have any of that stuff, too. Craigslist was it. It's where you went. Men looked for men, and I bought a couch, and I found an department and I did more. You did everything there. One-stop shopping. One-stop shop. And now we have Amazon. You know, it's got that seedy underbelly because it really is like everything combined.

It's kind of like Reddit, but for a marketplace, right? Right. Oh my God. I'm not even sure if Craigslist exists anymore. I know they cleaned it up. I was just on it the other day because I was so curious if there was still like the gig economy where you could find piecemeal adult work and stuff.

That's all been kind of taken away I'm sure like legality and stuff but it's still there I think I was on it like a year or so ago just started to see if you know I actually was looking to buy something I don't know a table or whatever and it was like I was amazed how much they had cleaned that up but you know I mean I sold an old camera lens on there and the people that came to buy it you know they were trying to beat me up on the price it's like dude I'm selling you a $2,500 lens for a thousand bucks what do you want You know? But anyway, that's a whole other story. Yeah.

So you took a break then for a while, you say. Yeah, I did. I was dating a professional athlete at the time who also was doing movies with me in the beginning. So I met him on a set where we were shooting some BDSM stuff. He was a professional whitewater kayaker. So kind of a niche sport, but we would travel around to all these beautiful places. I was a shuttle bunny. So I would essentially drop them off at the river and then pick them up at the bottom when they were done their excursion. You better make sure he stays in your good side.

From that, you know, we wanted to spend more time doing, I'm really big into sports like skiing and mountain biking. And I couldn't really do that in LA. Like when you're in LA, you're kind of in this silo and everything's just about making money and making porn. I was so young at the time. I'm like, I just want to go on an adventure and do something else. Really. I didn't want to be in LA. So I moved to a little mountain town where I became a nurse and just did essentially like the biking, hiking and skiing, knowing that I always had something to fall back on.

Adult work feels a little, it doesn't always feel like something that's going to carry you through the rest of your life. So I wanted something that I could really fall back on if I needed to, which was the nursing. Turns out I loved it. Yeah. But what's amazing how many girls we know that wind up doing content that either went to school for nursing. Donna did. Yep. I was still stripping and I thought I would need another career in case that You know, I knew dancing couldn't last forever. I didn't want it to last forever. My God, that would just be awful.

You know, it's the, I hate to say this, but it's the smart, it's the smart ones that do that. Cause there is very much of, there's so many nurses that wind up doing adult work and they're all very like driven and very intelligent and they know exactly what the fuck they're doing. They're type, they're type A's. And so there's like a certain type, I think that's attracted to doing sex work and being really proud of it. It's the same type of person that has what it takes to be a nurse. Cause really you're kind of like a I just worked in a way. In a way.

I can just fuck you all day at work anyway. That's corporate America in general. I could have worked to get fucked. Yeah, exactly. Didn't like the nursing though. That wasn't as much fun. But the nice thing with the adult world now, with the adult content, is women are well into their 70s and still shooting adult content. It's incredible. It really is. And there really is. There's something for everybody, right? And somebody just asked me this question the other day, but I look at Brandy Love. all the time. I'm like, she looks better than anybody. She's in her 50s.

She's been doing this for 20-something years and she shows no signs of stopping. You can go as long as you want. That'd be really smart about it. Well, you know, I'd like to think even after porn, you're still going to have sex. I hope so. God willing. I'll be so disappointed. The only difference between porn stars and regular people is we do it in front of cameras. Exactly. And we talked about it. I have no shame saying dirty words like penis or vagina and like, no, what kind of show you think we're talking about here? What the fuck? Yeah, exactly.

We, we did it in front of other people and we're not ashamed of it. Like sexuality is something that if more people were in tune with it, the world would be a much happier place. Well, we talk about that. I mean, obviously I've said earlier, the show is about swinging, but you know, we talk about how the swing community is so much more accepting and it's more just more open. You know, I, I told you earlier, you know, I was known, for my boudoir photography and stuff like that. And a lot of, I did a lot of nudes that I had, you know, one man gallery shows and what have you.

And people were like, Oh my God, that's, you know, you have nudes like, Oh my God. It's the human form, man. Get over it. You know, it's don't go into the Sistine Chapel. Yeah. It's even like when I taught, like it goes back so far, right? Like the human form, you have all this art and all this beautiful stuff. You go way back into ancient civilizations and men would fuck men for fun. And it wasn't really taboo.

And they all, talked about it but now it's just like oh my god it's just like sexuality is such a taboo thing and it's so simple and we all need it and everybody it was it's like as if everyone's ashamed of drinking water right but they all need it sure and they all do it in different ways and they're all hiding it in different ways like we all fucking drink like let's just talk about ways we drink water i'm out in a crowd i'm drinking my water my hot wife's little mug here i always talk about what what are things I talked about too is like in high school you know if someone you know back in when I graduated in 84 you know people were like you know it's like yeah he got caught jerking off no I don't jerk off no I don't jerk off now I'm 58 and you're sitting in the cigar shop with some guys like man the other day I was home rubbing one out and it's like yeah I did that the other day too you know it's like it's like yeah did you see that one girl in this one movie I jerked off to her oh god it's like it's like wow it's come a long way you know didn't think it was we haven't it's important, right?

Because like, we all do weird shit when we're alone. But when you talk to other people, everyone else is doing the same weird shit as you. And so you feel way less shame for it. You feel it's more normalized. It's right. No, with the exception of like a few very weird things. It's so good to talk about. And I like hearing that men are talking about it, too. I think it's important. Yeah, it's, you know, I guess maybe that's maturity. I don't know. I hate to use it. I think so. I think it's emotional maturity to be able to do it because it's so vulnerable, right?

And I think that's what I love about people that do sex work that have been in this space for a long time they're so open and vulnerable about who they are that I feel like an instant connection to them and it's almost like all the civilians they're kind of hiding I don't trust as much because they have so much to hide yeah we feel like that with the swinger community because you can go into a swinger community and he could bring his nudes and show them to people in the swinger community and they're like oh that's nothing you see the nude I have on my wall so you know you show like vanilla people that's what we call them and they're oh my goodness.

We don't talk about that. How many people actually know our profile on their swinger site because of the photographs? Oh, that's true. Oh, interesting. Yeah. You know, an experience we had here with my husband was that we tried to kind of break into the ethical non-monogamous community in our hometown, but they didn't want us because we are sex workers. See, see for us, we went. So that was great. They thought it was, that was so interesting to me. Yeah. Well, actually our, profile on our, the Swinger site we belong to, talks about where we generate content.

If you're going to contact us, we're going to ask you to sign a release and everything else, all part of it, you know. And, you know, there's some people obviously who read the profile and then there's some who don't, you know. People reach out to us like, oh, we'd love to get together. I'm like, okay, hey, you're cool with signing a release and all that. It's like, what for? It's like, you didn't read the profile. Let's sort you out right off the bat, you know. You're out. But, you know, but there are people that are like, no, man, I love being videotaped. I've been videotaped before.

You know, it's like, good. You know? Yeah. Those are people that are more fun, especially the ones that are, have a little, uh, they're exhibitionists. So they love being in front of the camera. They, you know, they're, they're very, um, they like to explore it like, well, if I pick you up like this, how is that going to look? You know, like we'll kind of like block it out. And I get a kick out of it because they're all excited. Like, oh man, if I could do this and we could this, I'm going to bend you. I'm like, have added, have fun. That is great. I love that enthusiasm. Yeah. Yeah.

Especially if they're not used to having themselves videotaped. Like what I'm, it's such like, it looks so hot when you see it for the first time. Oh, and we give them the video, like, Oh, this is our video. When you see it and they're like, Oh my God, that was so hot. I jerked off to it so many times. That's awesome. I love that. Yeah. I'll hook up a monitor sometimes as I'm videotaping so they can see, you know what, especially if I have a multi-camera setup, you know, they can see exactly what angle I'm shooting from. And these guys are like, it's going to be kind of weird.

But you know, like you're into the video for 10 minutes and all of a sudden the guy is like, you see him like looking at the screen and he's like, Oh fuck. Yeah. Yeah. I got to feel and I get to watch myself in a porn and feel it at the same time. So it's, it's kind of fun. And we still are very amateurish about it. So it's, you know, he says, you know, it really shouldn't be looking at the monitor when we're videotaping. I'm like, but it's real. It's really real. You know? And I, You know, that's the stuff I seek out. Like when I'm looking for porn, I look for that.

Like as soon as I see like the foot of a light or anything, I'm out of there. Like I want the real. Right. We're not looking at the monitor. I want it to look homemade. I love it. Yeah. Oh, that's easy for us. It's all homemade. It's all homemade. Yeah. Lately, we've been doing some stuff where I just put a small little pin light on the camera and all the lights are out. So it's just that real contrasty. Your focal point is really on whatever the camera is shooting. Yeah. I love that. Yeah, it's kind of raw, kind of primal.

I think the hottest one is when we did that threesome and you did the same thing there. It's what I'm saying, that style. Yeah, it was. Shooting more of that. It was. It was really hot. It was really, really hot. And the thing is, it's like we didn't want to really show their faces because they didn't really want their faces shown. So it was a neat way to keep their faces in the shadows without having to wear something.

really cheesy like a mask or, you know, something like that or blurring the face, you know, it just kept in the shadows just enough that you couldn't quite tell who it was, but the focal point was on the action. So that's so mysterious. Yeah. It looked really, really cool. I really liked it. Very artistic. It was nice. So now are you still married? I am. Yeah, I am still married. Seven years, seven years. Oh, God bless you. Time for that seven year itch, right? Oh, no, that's... It's crazy. Well, he was actually a fan. Like, we met after...

We went when I was a nurse, so this is, you know, well past the dirtbag kayaker. Right. I met my now husband, but he knew who I was from my movies before. He was kind of, like, nervous and shy around me. I was a bartender at our local ski hill for a free pass, and he was just a ski bomb, and so it took him forever to come and talk to me, but finally he did, and here we are. Oh, good. And then we started doing it together. My husband...

husband's very lucky he's wonderful he's got a wonderful cock a really good performer so I have the best of every world here at home it's amazing so we make content together and then content with other people okay that was gonna be where I was gonna ask you shoot with others I mean there's plenty of people who only shoot with their significant other and there's nothing wrong with that you know but so yeah I shoot with other people right now my husband doesn't we started our only fans as a couple's account but then I we since kind of moved away from that.

He has his own solo account, but I'm just, I'm honestly trying to convince him to shoot with other female talent. He's a little bit shy about that. Well, while we're talking about this, it's very, I like it. I do, but he's incredible. I feel greedy keeping him to myself. There you go. You're stunning. If he can shoot with you, everybody else is going to be kind of a few steps down. So he should have nothing to worry about. We'd hope. So, right. Yeah. Why don't you tell everybody what your OnlyFans account is so they can check you out? Yeah, absolutely. It's Sadie Juice.

So S-A-D-I-E, Juice, J-U-I-C-E. And yeah, come over, check it out. We have, like I said, a ton of content with other performers. So I have like a lot of really filthy anal BBC stuff that I do, as well as like the very homemade, like kind of what you're saying. We're not looking at the monitors. We'll just kind of like slap the camera up in the room and we'll fuck or we'll be fucking. We'll be like, let's just film this and we'll just throw it out. Yeah, sure. Why not? Yeah. So there's something for everyone. And like you were talking about, like, I'm someone who just really loves to have sex.

This is what I love to do. And I kind of want to share it. And so I'm on over and check it out. Yeah. Love it. Love it. What's there not to like about sex? I really would love to ask a lot of people that question. It's yeah, there's nothing not to like about it. I mean, it's free. I mean, what, what in life is free? And feels as good as an orgasm. Nothing. Sometimes maybe that moment where you like really have to pee, but even that's free. And that does feel really good. It feels so good. It feels so good.

But yeah, no, there's just, I really, I honestly like when I say this, I just wish people were more in tune with their sexuality. Like it really is a gift to be in this space. And so many people look at me like I'm damaged or there's something wrong with me. And I'm like, I've seen the light, like just, come over to this side. It's loving. It's gentle. It's going to get everything you need. We have cookies. We have orgasms. We have orgasms. We have sex. We like it. It feels good. We like touching. No, whatever. We're made to do that. I like the communication.

I've experienced women that have never had orgasms. That's frightening and sad. You know, when I started porn, I'd never had an orgasm. Wow. Wow. Yeah, I'd never, but I was, yeah, I'd say like that's still pretty young and that maybe was like part of the like why I really wanted to explore it. But once you learn how to do that, I still have friends that haven't had orgasms. I'm almost 40. I'm 38 years old, 39 this year. And I have friends that still don't know how to make themselves feel good. That's really sad.

I mean, you can't tell somebody how to make you feel good if you don't know how to make yourself feel good. Like when I'm with a partner who doesn't know my body yet, I can instruct them, oh, you know, put your tongue here, do it on the clit, do this, do that, you know, or bite my nipple or pull my hair, whatever, whatever it is. But if you don't know, how are you going to tell your partner how to make you feel good? And then when you don't have an orgasm, you're looking at him like, oh, he didn't do his job. And that's not true. You didn't tell him what to do. You didn't instruct him.

Well, you have to experiment, right?

I remember when I first learned how to, come on my own it was by pressure of like putting my like thighs together like it wasn't like a rubbing or a sex toy it was like learning how to push my thighs together and I did that for so long but then finally I started experimenting with like my finger or a toy or like and now I'm just like finally like now I explore with everything and like you come in different ways from different sensations there's like different kinds of orgasms depending on my mood like do I want the vibrator and the dildo or maybe I just want the pressure.

Like it's, you really have to spend time getting to know your body. Cause like you're with her your entire life. Like, yeah, no yourself. No, that's true. I like the idea of the whole different kinds of orgasms. Vince and I have talked about that, that there are depending on your mood, depending on the, what kind of pressure is being put on you. There's more, I always, I always tell him there's like a, a sensual orgasm. Then there's more of the primal orgasm. And then there's vaginal, there might be anal, there might be clitoral orgasms.

And there's so many different things that could make up an orgasm that having this conversation with your partner, with, you know, potential partners or anybody else in the sex industry or in the swinging world. Partner for the moment. Partner for the moment. It makes it so you know what you need and you're responsible for your own orgasm. Am I right? You are responsible for your own orgasm. So I'll get off my soapbox now. You totally are, right? Yeah. It's like when you go for a massage, Massage. Like the therapist asks you, is the pressure okay?

And you have no problem saying yes or no to them. So like, just, just tell your part. Everyone is different. Everyone's different. So it's specific to yourself. Yeah. Yeah. When I'm with a different guy, I, I know what Vince likes. I usually translate it over to my new playmate. Sometimes we've explored like what he likes, what he doesn't like. Sometimes we don't. And a lot of times it's, they're very similar. He likes the same kind of things, but sometimes he's like, you know, I really need you to do X, you know, grab on my balls and really, pole or whatever.

I'm like, okay now, whatever you need. At that point, you see the camera shake a little. It's like, ouch. Not putting chip clips on your dick. Yeah, not doing that. Or clothespins. Yeah, we, I have been with some interesting, interesting playmates. I love that. You probably have some really, really good stories to tell. Just a couple, just The clothespins on the dick was probably one I'll never forget. That guy, what was it, 12 or 17 clothespins? I think it was like 16 or 17 clothespins on his dick. That's a lot down the shaft. Down the shaft on his balls. On the nuts, yeah.

Yeah, he was gifted, but he couldn't get hold. They pinched, too, because I've done a little clothespin play, and they can really get on there. Yeah, you steal those little guys. These are the old wooden ones, not the plastic ones by Ikea, which don't have as much pressure. He's dripping pre-cum. Yeah, he was so hard from it. Oh, my God. Oh, that's so hot. When you took him off, as soon as you took him off, he went limp. Yeah, he just kind of like, you know. It's like, dude, you're a sick bastard. Yeah. I like that. The sicker the better, really. Like, that's hot. It was interesting.

It was actually a real eye-opener. Just when you think you're the sickest one out there, someone comes and says, no, you're not. Oh, there's always someone that's... I'm on Reddit, so I've learned there's always someone sicker than me out there for sure. Oh yeah. Yeah. I'm, I'm pretty vanilla compared to what's out there. We just joined FetLife. Oh yeah. On FetLife, you sit there and look at some of the stuff and go, what the hell is that? Okay. I like a little bondage. I like being tied up and flogged. That's nothing. Where'd they find four midgets? Oh my God. I don't know.

So now it, I see you have a Sadie summer.com also. Okay. Does that just lead you to other sites or is that a site in itself? That Lee, it's going to be a site in itself, but right now it essentially just leads you to a link tree. So it's my only fans and then my clip stores and then my social medias as well. So yeah, feel free to also check out city summers.com and you can follow me on all my socials, which are free. Thank you for pointing that out. Yeah. That's what he's paid the big bucks for. Yeah. When's that check? Yeah, totally. I don't know. Okay. Let's check. Don't hold your breath.

So this is your main source income. That's awesome. That is awesome. It is now. Yeah, totally. My husband was a heavy equipment operator in a gold mine and I still was working nursing. I still have a position, but it's casual. So essentially they'll call me and I choose whether or not I want to work, but I'm really, I'm just too busy with this. And then I have a little, I have a toddler. And part of the goal of doing all this is I want to spend as much time with my family as possible. So I'm really trying to spend more time with him before he grows up. Yeah, that's true.

Well, you're like a work from home mom. So it's kind of, it's so nice, right? And I need to get him out of the house sometimes so I can like fill my content. And I hate having like, I don't want to do anything when he's around. Exactly. He grabs my phone now. He wants to see everything I'm doing. And I'm like, we can't have these two worlds collide. So I try to do absolutely everything when he is in daycare a few days a week. And then when he's home, I just got to spend all the time. I think it's great. Yeah, that's awesome. Which I can't do when I'm nursing, right? Right, exactly.

Let's say, go to work, take care of sick people, or go to my other job and get laid and have orgasms. Well, that's a tough decision. Have orgasms, and then, yeah, just have orgasms, meet the best people in the world, have creative freedom, and then have free time. The thing people don't realize, everyone is, they'll chastise women for chasing money, but I'm not chasing money. I'm chasing my free time. That's just what extra money or disposable income will give me.

I just want time to enjoy it and do the things that I love I could care less about you know material things yeah that's a great way to be yeah it is a good way to be that's what it's all about yeah it is you know I always said the the best things in life are simple pleasures simple pleasures right like like orgasms orgasms you know the warmth of the sun while you're having sex outside that's one of my while you're having an orgasm yeah we have a we have a great property here joy secluded it's Built into a hill. It's pretty secluded.

So we get to have sex all over the place, on the property, in the pool. That's so nice. And I have. And how long have you guys been together? Been married 20 years. 20 years. But I think we've been together 22? Yeah, something like that. That's incredible. Something like that. We actually started a business together, a website business, back in 98. And we were just best friends. I was married. She was living with a guy. I had a boyfriend, yeah. We became best friends. And my marriage fell apart. And then sometime after that, she attacked me. Now she's paying for it. There is alcohol involved.

Let me just tell you, there is alcohol involved. I've had to stay drunk since. I did not plan. You guys are an inspirational couple. I quite, I'm enjoying talking to you guys. It's nice when you have people that have like this open, like I'm sure there's been bumpy parts along the road, but you guys have created this life together that's based on something like very taboo, but it's something, it's amazing. It's really cool. The thing is with us, since we were best, friends first. There was never any sexual tension there because I didn't cheat on my wife.

She had a boyfriend she didn't cheat on. We were telling each other things. We'd come to work every day at the office we had and talk about what best friends talk about. Then, like I said, I had left my wife. I was sleeping in a car in a parking lot for four months. She was still my best friend and she was the only one helping me out And one night we had done a photo shoot and drinking heavily and she attacked me. Oh boy. Okay. Were you guys curious before that? Like Donna, were you like, Oh, like a wonder? No, no. He's more like a big brother kind of grossed me out. I hate to say that.

I mean, I should have known when we were telling each other things that we would never tell our significant others, you know, for fear of being ostracized or whatever flack you get from that. I should have known there was something more there, but yeah, I just wasn't there like that. That switch hasn't been clicked on. He was much heavier back then. Yeah. You know, he's lost over 80 pounds. 80 pounds. Over 80 pounds. Yeah. Oh, congrats. That's really hard to do. Yeah. Well, diabetes does it to you. Yeah. Now we just, we eat very healthy. So that helps.

But yeah, I mean, we're mutting Jeff in a sense because, you know, I'm six foot now, 240 ish. Donna is four foot 11 and you know, she's a, Oh, you are tiny. I am really. You should see pictures of us together. It's like I'm barely up to a shore. I look like a little kid. Like in the wedding picture, his one daughter got married. Everybody's in the wedding picture. It's like all these giant people. Then me. I look like a little kid next to them all. I'm like, oh, what? Even he said, he was like, oh, my God, am I that much bigger than you? And it's like, well, look at me. I look like a dwarf.

I'm tiny. I'm barely up to your shoulder. Her high heels have little blinkers on as she walks. Don't laugh. Don't laugh. I have put on those sneakers and they blinked around just to entertain his daughters. And they're all laughing at me. I'm walking around with these princess sneakers on that blank. I should have bought them, but I didn't. I mean, a lot of people probably don't believe us, but in the 20 years we've been married, we really haven't had a fight. No, it's no way. We've had a couple of disagreements, but never yelling, screaming, throwing things kind of thing.

Well, I mean, you both seem like really good communicators. And I think that really is like, most people don't fight because of the issue. It's because they can't communicate. And so you guys just found that spot, right. Where you communicate appropriately with each other and you hear each other. And well, because we were business partners, we had to communicate, you know, we weren't lovers. We weren't, I don't want to hurt his feelings. No, it, if a job was late and I was not doing my job, he would tell me, Don, you got to kick it up.

You're this, this, you know, this project you did wasn't good. It wasn't this, you need to, you know, we, we weren't afraid to hurt each other's feelings because we were business partners. Yeah. that we had to be honest on that. So we just kind of made its way over into a romantic relationship that, you know, if I'm not sucking his dick good enough, I'm going to hear about it. Yeah. It's not like you get offended. You're just like, okay, I want to learn how to suck his dick the way he wants me to suck it. I'm not going to be mad. Like, you know, it's like you receive it, how it's intended.

Yeah. Well, and also really, it's, it's amazing. Being a swinger, I can outsource it and not get in trouble. Yeah. You can outsource it. That's true, too. It's like, honey, I have a headache tonight. I'm going to outsource it. I'm doing what the U.S. economy is doing. I'm outsourcing it. And you know what? I'm not even offended by that. The orgasms I get from overseas aren't as good as what I get here. Homegrown orgasms are better. They might cost a little bit more, but the quality is better. Just that stamp that says... Cayman USA hurts. Cayman USA. So, but anyway. Oh my God.

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