Ring or No Ring: Who’s More Irresistible in the Swinger Lifestyle?

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Speaker1: This program contains strong sexual content. No one under the age of 18 is permitted to listen to or download this podcast in any manner. The host, guest, and performers are all over the age of 18. Rebroadcasting the podcast in any manner is strictly prohibited without the written consent of the owners of the Hot Wife podcast. The commentary of this program is the sole opinion of its host or guest and does not reflect that of the opinion of Hot Wife podcast owners, agents, or representatives. This podcast is not meant to be taken as professional advice. Hello, everybody. This is Donna Lynn. And you're right. I never shut up. Just like the song says. Or at least maybe we never shut up. I haven't said anything yet, so. Okay. You're off the hook. But welcome to my Hot White Podcast. This is Donna Lynn. And of course, I'm here accompanied by my ever-loving husband, Vince. It may be my last show since she found somebody who has a better voice than me. Oh. You have a contender. You have a contender. I didn't know it was in competition. No, but it's like, wow, I understand what women feel when they hear your voice. I'm used to hearing your voice. I think your voice is very soothing. I think I sound dorky. No, you do not. You sound very nice. I'm aware, due to my job, my daytime job, that women seem to like my voice. I don't know why, but okay. When I see what it's attached to, I really go, what? But whatever. Again, you hear your own voice. Everybody thinks, potentially, everybody thinks that they sound different than they actually do. Yeah, I don't want to even listen to my voice. No one else does either. It kind of came on as a surprise, kind of a little sexy, you know, because when I picked up the phone to make an appointment for my car, which is in the shop, his voice came on like really smooth and silky, and I thought it was like a recording. So I was like, I didn't know how to respond to it. I was just going to do my usual robotic, hi, this is my And no, you didn't. I stuttered. Oh, that voice. I was like, because he said something that was non-robotic, I'm like, oh my God, you're a real person. I thought you were like this pre-recorded because it's almost too, yeah, like an AI voice. So when I met him, you know, I was like, oh, there's that voice. I'm like, man, that's nice. And then when he called and told me my car and how much it was going to cost, I was like, yeah, whatever you want to say, whatever you want. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's going to be a thousand dollars. That's fine. Your voice is just really, You have no problem bitching at me, though. Oh, I don't. Okay. What? It was just really nice. It was very nice. I understand, you know, that your voice and how it affects women. You've even said that at your other job. I find it interesting. Again, I don't think my voice is all that, but I've been told numerous times that I've had even people write in and like, oh, my God, Vince's voice. Well, you even said when you were working in the drafting and engineering field that women would call up. That's something very sexy. It's like there's a whole voice fetish just in that by itself. It can be very, very sexy because you don't see what the other person looks like. So you form these, unless you know, but sometimes you don't know. And then my face ruins the whole fantasy. Oh, stop. It's still kind of sexy. I don't know. That's fine. So that's just my opinion. That's all. And you're entitled to that. Well, thank you. Yeah, no, I get it. I mean, there was someone more recently I talked to. It was a man. I didn't get aroused. I played with my nipples for a little bit, but I didn't get aroused. Oh, okay. That's different. That's totally different. Yeah. That doesn't mean you're gay at all. No. Tony gave you pushback. But yeah, no, the dude had a great voice. I told him, I said, man, you got a great voice. There was, yeah, I do remember there was a couple guys that you just knew like socially and you're like, man, you're deep that. Yeah, a deep kind of like, you know, I almost want to use the word chocolate, like chocolate for the ears, that kind of thing. Okay, sure. There was a guy, I don't know if you remember this. Okay. It's irrelevant, but he's a black gentleman that worked at the YMCA. He had dreads. Oh, that's the dreadlocks, yeah. And he had a phenomenal voice. And I told him, dude, man, you got to, I didn't say that. I said he had a phenomenal voice. I thought he was sexy. And he goes, well, actually, I do voiceover on the side. Oh, okay. I said, I get that. Yeah. God bless you. Yeah, there's something very sexy about a deep kind of meaty, like he definitely had that chocolatey, you know, chocolate for the ears. That's what it was. It was like candy for ears. And chocolate for my pussy. Well, in this case, it just happened to be the same, but it was very soothing, very sultry, very something about it. Oh, no, there's different voices. Oh, yeah, absolutely. What's Kathleen Turner? She was known for her raspy type voice. Oh, the raspy voice. That's a whole other. Depends on what you're into. You know, what you're looking for. I think that's sexy too. Good thing Anna Nicole Smith actually had big tits because her voice was like a chalkboard. Nails on a chalkboard, yeah. A screechy kind of, yeah. You know, there's something for everybody. Yeah, for sure. I don't know. I mean, again, what you think your own voice sounds like, but the few times I've listened to parts of our podcast. Right. So here's a little factoid for everybody. We record these shows, then we post them. We don't listen to them. No, I'd be too embarrassed. I probably would never do another show. Yeah. I mean, all the podcasting I've done over the years, I've never listened to any of my shows. I think there was one time I listened to one show in its entirety when I had my cigar podcast. Right. A hundred years ago. And I didn't enjoy listening to myself. I started critiquing. Yeah. So therefore, I don't listen just for that sole reason that I figure I might, If things weren't, if we didn't have listeners, I might critique, okay, what am I saying, doing, or not doing, whatever. And I think by just, since it seems that people listen, I'm just going to let it roll. Yeah, I want it to be more organic. Orgasmic, yeah. Sometimes orgasmic, true. And just, is there a conversation? And I want it to be raw. I want it to be I want it to be what we're thinking at the time. You know, sometimes we fumble and sometimes we stumble over our words. All unscripted. Definitely unscripted. There's not one bit, I mean. No. Yeah, it just makes it more real. You missed that line. Back up. Oh, yeah. Take two. Try that again. No, our conversations are off the cuff, obviously. As someone once emailed us that we have a hard time staying on topic, there are times that happens. Yeah, we do meander. I'm not going to argue that. We do meander. Sorry about that. It's the conversation we're having. It happens in a lot of conversations. If you are having a conversation with friends, sometimes things divert. They remind you of something else. You could be talking about apples, and the next thing you know, you're like, oh, yeah. My kids left an apple in the back of my car, and it stunk. My first grade teacher, I used to give her an apple. Oh, I wanted to give her more than an apple. That's how our conversations go. First grade. Really? Really? Oh, yeah. Seven years old. Yeah, I wouldn't have boned the shit out of my first grade teacher. You know you're looking at her boobies. My first grade teacher looked like the old woman from Tweety Bird. If I showed you a picture of her. My second grade teacher looked like the old woman from Tweety Bird. You would have swore. It was that woman with the apron with the white hair and the glasses, Mrs. Hallman. God rest her soul. I'm sure, yeah. She was 100 back then. You know? Nasty old woman. She was a crotchety old thing. Okay, never mind. You just took the old anything that's, you know. Okay, well, let's get to the topic. Oh, the topic? So the topic tonight, I have a question. Okay, you have a question? So it's a two-question thing, and you can combine them to make a third. Okay. So what is more arousing for you? Okay. Or who provides the most fun? Maybe that's the thing. One, do you prefer playing? with a single male versus a married male. Okay. Now, again, I'm not saying a cheating man. I'm just saying, okay, so let's pretend, you know, so like the aspect of like, oh, his wife is watching or he's going to go home and tell his wife versus just a single guy who might go tell his friends. Okay. Or maybe he doesn't tell his friends. Who knows? I think there's more too about the, did you want to put the age parameters in there too? Well, that's the next question. Well, I don't want to say. And then the next question is, whichever one of those you prefer, with single or married, do you prefer that person to be on the younger than you or same age or older than you? Well, here's the thing. There's so many different parameters that each one has their own merits in this case. Like, it depends on what I want. What kind of experience am I looking for? The flavor of the moment? Yeah, sort of. Sometimes you have, you know, if you feel a little more, Randy. You know, a younger guy could definitely provide that kind of... What if his name's not Randy? Then any other name will probably do, but Randy would be very good. Okay, you're hot for a Randy right now. I'm hot for a Randy right now. They have a little more... Things will be a little more active, you know, a little more... A little more... I don't want to say acrobatic, but you know what I mean. You know, I might bring out the... If everything is good, you know... Chimpanzee. I know. The trapeze bar. The flaming hoop. The flaming hoop, yes. The little things would be a little more. The axe throwing. The stuff that goes on in foreplay. Absolutely. Nice throwing, you know. Well, hatchet. Knives are wrong. Oh, yeah. Well, hatchet throwing. Yeah, I could see that. While consuming vast quantities of alcohol. Exactly. Maybe it'd be some rope tying. No, I'm only kidding. That's just kinky now. You know, a little more. Younger guys have a little more stamina, so you can. probably have more elongated fun. That's a little bit more on the active side, which might be kind of fun. Okay. But I'm not in my prime, so I do have to think about the energy expended in such activities. Sure. You know what I mean? But sometimes that's fun. Younger guys come with a lot of energy and sexual energy, and some of them are experienced, but some of them are not so much. So you had that, you know, the one young guy was very inexperienced, never had a 69, you know, wanted to try giving me anal. Well, he's never done that. He never had had his ass eaten. So you have all these other things of inexperience, which adds some kind of erotic plane to the whole thing as well, you know. I never had sex with Kate Beckinsale. That doesn't mean I'm getting that. Have you tried? Is she on a website? I know. I'm sorry. Damn is restraining orders. But you know, younger guys definitely have our merits. But then again, you have the experience of an older guy. You know what I'm saying? Who's like the one young guy. Oh, I don't eat pussy. Well, there you go. Now an older guy comes in with experience. And I don't get laid either. Oh yeah. I wonder why. Is there a correlation? There might be, you know, Hey, I'd like to have a little pleasure too, you know, but older guys. Okay, I'm sorry, honey. It's all about you. Thank you. No pleasure on my part. In fact, I'm, you know, I throw up a little bit in my mouth, but I managed to hold it back for you. I appreciate that. I'm sure you do. But you know what I'm saying? Like an older guy takes his time where he knows how to tease. It's just we're too sore to move fast. Oh, that could be too. Yeah, it's not sexual. It's not sexual. I can't, I can't move that fast. It's not always sexual when you hear us go, oh. Oh, I thought you just were enjoying yourself. Oh. It hurts to move. Oh, Jesus. Oh. It's like, yeah, baby. Does that feel good? Oh. Yeah, we can joke about it. But actually, the little more mature guys, you know, maybe not what you're saying there, Mr. Smarty Pants, but, you know, they have a little more, they're a little more in tune with the rhythm of their partner. Is that a way to put it? that, oh. Sure. They can read you better. A young guy has no clue sometimes. Okay, well, what you're saying basically is the experience. Yeah, the experience, absolutely. He knows how to read the room. He knows how to interpret his partner's stuff. Okay, well, the other part of this. Okay, is there another part? Of this one, yeah, is, again, we're talking the older married. Older, younger? Oh, older married. No, this isn't older. Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay, older married. Oh. The younger, older comes the second part. is single versus married. Well, I just flipped them, so there. Well, you went to the practice. Single and married also has the taboo of fucking a married man. Well, I'm talking to you in the lifestyle. Even in the lifestyle, you still have that fantasy that plays into the taboo. You know what I'm saying? I know that his wife is definitely on board. She knows that I'm fucking him. She might be in the room. She might not be. That being said, that's the reality. But the very dirty, naughty, taboo secret is saying, like, if I was a vanilla woman, I'd be, you know, I'd be cheating with this man's, you know, with this man and his wife is there. So you have that dirty little fantasy that goes along with it, even though it's not reality. The reality is they're right there and they're on board with it. But the fantasy is very fun, that cheating, being a dirty little girl, you know, and she, She was really enjoying it, so I knew that she was on board, obviously. Now, you have some experiences, obviously. Right. Like, you had that one that the woman was pregnant. Oh, yeah, she sent her husband down. She's more into bondage. He's not, sort of like us. Yeah, sort of like us. So she said, hey, can I send my husband over to play? Yes. That was very erotic. Okay. That was very erotic. You're sending him home to, so she's going to, he's going to show share his experiences and stuff. And then he showed me pictures of the newborn baby. Because she was pregnant at the time. Yeah. Well, that was the second time he came over. Came over. You have to, yes. No, I think she was pregnant the first time. The first time she was pregnant. So they didn't have a baby to show pictures of. It would have been an ultrasound. No. What I'm saying is it was like later on. And then he showed me pictures of the baby after we had played. I thought the first time. was still pregnant. The first time she was still pregnant, but it was after that that he sent me pictures. Oh, okay. Okay. You know what I'm saying? I sent him videos of us fucking, of us fucking, and then he sends me a picture of- Of you and him fucking. Yes. Not you and me. Just clarifying. Yes. Just clarifying. Do I have to draw pictures for you? I've seen what you draw. I wouldn't know what you're saying. Yes. It's like, what's that? A giraffe eating apple pie? I played with a gentleman whose wife was pregnant, and I sent him the video. And then later on he sends me a picture of the newborn baby. So it's like, I was like, this is what we were doing. And he said, well, this is what we were doing. I have a baby now. I was doing this with you, and we can't make this. Yep, we just have the fun without the end result. But, you know, that's all good. We made the batter, but didn't bake the cake. There you go. We know I'm not a baker. We know that. Nope, your oven is broken. My oven is off. And that's good. Yep. It's all good. But that was very erotic. I mean, you know. Even in like a house party situation where. Sure. The part I find erotic in this scenario is there has been some couples. You've played with the husband. Right. And I'm going to try to be as nice as possible here. Oh boy. Where the wife. I don't know. this. I don't know what you're trying to say. I know because I haven't said it. The wife might be physically different than you. How's that? She might be heavier. She might be taller with nicer boobs, longer hair. No, but I'm saying she might be, she might not have maintained her appearance as much. So she might be heavier. In your opinion. I'm not saying I have a problem with it. Yeah. In your opinion. You know, where the husband might, you know, be drawn to someone more closer to being in shape. I don't know who that would be. Somebody else. You were available. Okay, I understand that. Yeah, they were obviously looking, it's available, but you got the way. I'm not that in shape. Not like I used to be. Round is a shape. I'm so glad you recognized that. But, no, you know what I'm saying. It's like their wives might be older than you. Very few. Very few. There's a couple. But they might be heavier. Or some of the guys you play with are older than you, like I said. Right. Where, you know, that all of a sudden getting a younger, more in shape woman is kind of a fantasy. But they weren't available, so they went with you. They went with me. I'm glad. I feel flattered. Thank you. Yeah, you should have. You know, I mean, that's kind of cool. You know what it is? It's the, whether you think you're, quote, playing with somebody who might be... You think you're all that or you don't think you're all that? No, no, I don't. Geez, I don't use this word. But each person has their own little fantasy aside from their spouse. Sure, sure. You know, I'm not definitely, like if there was a tall, willowy, you know, Mediterranean woman, I could see you definitely being like, oh my God, I've always, that was what I always wanted. You know, just for, you know, I mean, just in general, you find that very attractive. and there was nothing wrong with that. I was going with the aspect that she's going to be saying, oh my God, he's what I've always wanted. There you go. But you're stuck with me, short, reddish hair, the exact opposite. North Atlantic-ing. It's the exact opposite, but it is what it is. But that's cool, though. You can be attracted to somebody else other than your mate and not be threatened by it. Oh, sure. And also be turned on by it and also reflect that onto your mate. Does that make any sense? I don't know. The last house party we went to, there was that one gentleman's wife, older woman, gray hair. Oh, God, yeah. I told you she had the softest skin and everything else. She was blondish gray. She had to be- She was older, but she was hot. She had to be closer to 20 years older than I am. Close to. I don't know about 20. No, if so, then she's in phenomenal shape. She was cute as a button. She wasn't much taller than me. Cute little petite thing. Sweet little, you know, smooth pussy. The majority of the population would probably look high. Oh my God, I can see why. Yeah, I found her extremely exciting. And the fact that I was able to make her scream and orgasm in front of her husband. That's so hot. In front of her husband was kind of cool. He was not, I'm sorry, I don't want to say this. Here's the thing with older gentlemen, is a negative. He was just so demanding. Why don't you just blow me? I was like, fuck you. I can't hold that belly up to find your dick. Oh, there you go. You know what? I don't have a problem playing with heavy guys. Obviously, you know, you were heavier. What are you saying? Obviously, I'm pointing at me. You were heavier at one time. Wow, that hurt. But not that. I mean, he was much heavier. But I mean, you're a big, meaty guy. You're not a skinny little twig. You're a big, meaty guy. And even guys are a little more on the equation. heavier side of that, I don't have a problem with. But he was like not even trying to be sexy in any way. You know what I'm saying? Even from the attire he was wearing, which is, I know this sounds really stupid. Like he had like the plain old tighty whities. Oh, come on, man. You're going to a swinger party. You know, wear something. I'm not saying a thong. I'm not saying that. That's disgusting. But he could have worn something in his under attire, something more attractive. You know, like the one guy I play with, he's on the heavy side. Beer Can, Mr. Beer Can, he's a big meaty dude. I mean, he's a burly guy. He's a big burly guy, but he wears these cute little like spandex shorts with like the pineapples on them, you know, for swingers. And I just thought that was hysterical. I mean, he, he knows he's big. He's got, you know, he's got some girth to him in all kinds of ways. Okay. I know that's not what exactly what he's going to right away, but yeah, he's big, but he makes it fun. He makes his, he makes it You know what I mean? And this other guy did not. It was like such a turnoff. Rule number two, he did not groom. Big turnoff in my book. I think, pardon me, I don't mean to yell. I think in the swinger community, that is a big turnoff. Now, I may be wrong in this. I think, you know, for women to groom, there are percentages. There are some men that want some hair, whatever level. that is. And there's those of us who don't want any hair. But I would bet majority, a larger percentage of women would rather have a man well-groomed. Yeah. I don't think most women would prefer to have a guy with a big hairy bush around his cock. No. And nuts. Yeah. No. I literally, that one guy that was here that had a freaking poodle on his lap, I was coughing up hairballs. I'm not, nope. That was just a big turnoff. So I guess getting back to the topic, You know, the married person, it can be quite a turn-on. Well, married versus single. Married versus single. Which is more erotic for you? I think the erotic part for me is the taboo, again, the taboo nature of the man being married. There is a taboo, there is a naughtiness about it, whether it's perceived or not, or whether it's, you know, everybody's consenting or not. There is kind of a taboo-ness. However, I do like the availability of single guys. Because you could be like, hey, it's a Sunday afternoon. Do you want to get together? Or, you know, and they're like, oh, sure. So I do like that flexibility because they don't have a family life. They're just like, I'm just looking to get laid. It's like, oh, well, that's good. I like that. I'm looking to get fucked. So it works out well. So I do like that Well, part two then Oh, there's a part two? Yeah Am I answering your questions adequately? You're not It's not a question I expect you to answer There's a lot of factors No, it's more like you just tell me your preference Yeah So, okay, so now Okay, I'm going to add something to it Single male Okay Younger, older Married male Younger, older You mean like better, like all the way around? Well If you had to pick Oh, God Let's pick the age of 30 for younger. Oh, nice. A single one or a married one? Does that make a difference? Is one more erotic than the other? Okay, I'll answer after you do. I'm sorry. No worries. I'm just trying to say, God, there's so many attributes that you're trying for me to categorize as far as single to married, and there's so many different personalities that some single guys are a whole lot of and then there's a whole lot of married guys that are a whole lot of fun. So it's like, I don't know. I'm torn. I'm torn between the two. Geez. Younger is always definitely, I like the tabooness. I find the tabooness of older woman, younger man, very taboo, especially if they're like more on the younger, younger side. The takeaway from that is the kids, I do mean kids on the younger, younger side that mean they're just, they're just, they're not men yet. and really haven't embraced what an older man and experience needs. So sometimes I'm left feeling, eh. You know, remember that one hot guy with a big dick? He's down there by the pool. He was the worst. Oh, he came with that other couple. He was 21, full of arrogant. You said married man. He wasn't married. No, I didn't say that. I thought you did. I'm sorry. I certainly didn't mean to. He was a younger guy. And it was like, it was the worst. He should have been fun and he wasn't. It was not fun at all. And a lot of the younger ones were not as much fun as you think they are. I'd like the little bit older, they can still be, still younger than me. Oh my God, you're talking 20 years. Come on, that's fine. Good Lord, that's craziness. So if they're in their 40s, they're still way younger than me and they still have, they have matured enough to be seasoned enough to know what a woman wants, that can read a woman, that endures in the floor play, has a lot of passion, And, you know, spends time like working her up the way that a man knows what a woman needs. And also has communication skills, which a lot of younger guys don't sometimes. I don't know what to say to that. Of course, you know. You know what I mean? And I've had older, slightly older, you know, I'm talking like 40-ish guys, you know, they play my pussy like a violin before they even enter me. I've already come like so many times. was Keith. Of course, again, we went back. His passion and stuff definitely evolved into him being bisexual. But that aside, every time I was with him, he was always very attentive. Paid a lot of attention before he just jumped on and fucked me. Which by then, I was really, really geared up. I was really ready for it. I wanted that. But it takes a little bit of time. And I think younger guys just don't understand that because they're so excited when they get into the arena. You know what I mean? They're hitting the back wall because they're so excited, which in and of itself can be very erotic, but it's not as fulfilling as if I was with an older man who has a little more patience. He can gauge himself into how long he needs to take. and bring the woman to her full potential. So when he sticks his dick in her, whatever hole they agree on, she's like saying, God, fuck me. Fuck me. You know what I mean? When you're saying that or thinking that, you know what I'm saying? You saying that just made me max out your credit card. Stop. Oh, I'm so excited. You said to fuck you. You didn't fuck me. clothes on, too, you bastard. But you know what I'm saying? It's like, you know what really made it more visually confirming is when we were watching Angelina, or I was watching, I was editing her movies, I was editing her videos, and Angelina was on her, you know, last show. Was it the last show? Yes. I was editing some of her videos, like little earlier ones. Sounds like she went on the next show, too, from me talking to her earlier. Oh, that sounds, that's hot. This is the scenario that made me, she was with a younger man. She's our age-ish. She's a little younger than me. She's my age. Right. She's your age. I'm actually a couple months older than her. You're younger than me-ish. No issue about it. But she's with this younger guy, and he's worked her up and worked her up, and then he goes to town on her, and she is screaming, Fuck me! I was like, Damn! And you know it's real. This is the one where she's blindfolded, and he's feeding the fruit. I was like, I was like, oh, this is gold. This is, and you know, it's real. It's raw. It's that whole, that passion that, you know. So now here would I find erotic, okay? Okay. If I was in your scenario. Okay. I would find fucking a younger married man so much more erotic because he's got a younger, potentially hot wife and that he's now being satisfied and satisfied. It's satisfying a older, mature woman. See, that's a taboo part of it. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm finding is very erotic. Yeah, sometimes. It's just like, you know, let's say a 30-year-old man who's married to a girl who's a woman who's still, you know. In her 20s. Who still has it together, didn't get all out of shape yet from kids or whatever. Right. You know, and that he's, you know, fulfilling that fantasy. I would see that being a lot more erotic than an older gentleman who's married or an older gentleman that's single. I would find the most erotic equation there being the younger man than you that is married. Oh, interesting. That's how I would see it. I mean, actually, because of my age, most of the younger guys that are married, most married guys I've been with, are younger, including the one whose wife sent him here to be to Fox. So that was very, yeah. Actually, when I was on one of my many platforms, a younger gentleman reached out and he's like, oh my God, you're so hot, blah. And he goes, well, here's a picture of me and my wife. Now, of course, I take it for granted that the picture he sent me was legitimately of him and his wife. I mean, I can't prove that. But she was stunning. I'm like, she is so freaking hot. And he goes, oh, not as hot as you. I'm like, what are you? Are you blind? I don't understand that. Because she was like smoking. I was like, okay, if this is really his wife, let's pretend this is all legit, okay? Let's put that on the table. Because you don't, you know, it's an online site. So who knows what they're peddling? You know, it could be all lies. But she was very hot. And it's like, I don't know. I don't see the I don't understand that part I'm older she's smoking hot what are you crazy but that guy that I do all those cam shows with he's younger he's like good 20 30 years younger than me don't know the guy the cams not me yeah he's much younger much younger and it's like what the heck so there's something there with the younger guy the older older I mean I'm significantly older than him and I'm definitely fine with that I'm absolutely but If he's 32, 33, 35 tops, he's a good 20 years younger than me. So it's something very erotic. He wants to see me do things. Maybe the attraction for him is because I am older, I'm a little more adventurous in certain areas, and maybe his significant other is not. Is he married? Yes. Okay, well, are you doing things that, again, It doesn't? We just talked about this the other week. About when your significant other kind of loses their interest, mojo, whatever you want to call it. The mojo. So all of a sudden, if you're with a woman who, when you first got together, was very sexual and everything else. Right, right. Was doing all sorts of freaky shit, and all of a sudden. Oh, to be young again. Yeah, well. But all of a sudden, she's not doing anything. isn't dressed and sexy? Now, there's a lot of factors to it. I'm not picking on the woman. There are a lot of factors. Anyway, we've gone over that before. But all of a sudden, you know, as men, and I can speak to that, I think. Well, to some degree. I didn't say I was an expert in it. You're not an expert. No way. It seems like our appetite for what we want from our significant others tends to grow. is we get tired of, it's like, okay, I'm really good with vanilla ice cream. But then after a little bit, it's like, I kind of want some jimmies on that. Yeah, I get it. It's like, you know what, now I want jimmies and chocolate syrup on that. Right. You know what, now I want chocolate jimmies and some cherries. What are we doing here? This is like crazy. My diabetes is just going to have a great control now. This is like food porn. Well, that's the best I have. That's the analogy. But when all of a sudden, Like, okay, I went as far as the chocolate syrup jimmies, but I'm going back to vanilla. And that's only like one night, maybe every two weeks. Oh, if you're alone. Or whatever. All of a sudden, you're like, oh, but, you know, I'm wanting to whip fucking cream. I'm wanting to cherries, the chocolate fucking syrup, some fucking crushed walnuts, you know. You said whip cream. Well, I'm just saying. I'm thinking something else. I'm swallowing. Yeah, well, about time. You said whipped cream, I'm trying to swallow it. Only thing I was thinking was some other kind of whipped cream. I was like, oh, no. Spit it out. Don't spit it out. One other kind of whipped cream? Oh, yeah, baby, all over your face. That's whipping his own cream. That's still whipped cream. I don't care who's whipping it. Don't get me wrong. Men are happy with the vanilla, but every once in a while- I'm sorry I've been vanilla. The freezer broke and it melted. It's not vanilla. It's just a slop on the floor. The floor. Warm dairy product. It's not even real milk. Warm vanilla milk. That's worse. But anyway. Oh, the compliments. You're all hot now? Oh, baby. This vanilla ice cream is just wet. I'm all sticky. It's because it melted. Shut up. But anyway. Okay. I'm being serious now. And I don't know if that's a good thing. for men are a bad thing. But no, we all, we, speaking as a man, last time I checked, our game keeps stepping up. We're not happy with, you know, you and your significant other might have great normal type sex. Next thing you know, you're like, and we've seen it with some people we know. It's like, man, I would love my wife to do anal. Like, fuck no. Okay. But what do they want? They want their wife to do anal. All of a sudden their wife's doing anal. No, next thing you know, it's like, you know, I'd love to see her blow my putty. Oh my God, stop it. But again. It's hot. No, I'm just saying, it happens. As men, it's like, okay, once you've gotten over the fence, you thought the grass is greener, you got there, you go, hey, this is okay, this is cool, what's over the next fence? What's next? Yeah, and women don't tend to, not all. Right. But in general, women are like, no, I jumped to one fucking fence for you, that's all the fucking fences I'm jumping. I ain't jumping to more fences. I'm going back to where the fuck I was. And that is their right. Oh, sure. It takes a lot of energy to jump over a fucking fence, mister. As men, we're never satisfied. And as men, a lot of times, they don't realize what either A, they're asking of the woman, or B, they're not doing anything to reciprocate. Reciprocate. Did I say it right? I don't think it doesn't sound right. Reciprocate. You're right. You're right. Is that like a quid pro quo? And it doesn't have to be, it doesn't even have to be a sexual. Right, right. You know, for a woman, correct me if I'm wrong. I don't know. You know what? You know, it's like, oh, I wish you'd do anal. Well, she did anal. What would you want next? Hey, did, am I stepping up? Am I helping her do dishes? Am I helping cook a couple times a week? Did I put the laundry in? Did I, you know, it's. It is. It's a team effort. It is team effort. And if you want to. I think if. We're changing topics here, but whatever. Sorry, we are meandering. Okay, so if you want to be- I'm Italian and Irish. Shut up. So if you want- I don't even know, where the hell is meander? Shut up. I'm trying to at least sum this up a little bit. So correct me if I'm wrong. You're saying if you want- You're wrong. If you want a little more attention in the bedroom, give a little more attention in the stuff that's outside the bedroom, in general, in general. Well, I think it's all a big circle. It is a big circle. Is that what you're saying? At times, yeah. Sort of, it is. I'll jerk you off if you jerk me off. Men are simple creatures. I've said it over and over again. I know. Believe me, I know. Yeah. Wow. Hey, if you want to get your freak. Hey, hey. Oh, stop it. If you want to get your. Here's the cool thing about being a swimmer. I'm Donna. Welcome to my podcast. Shut up. Hey, I hate your guts. I'm a hot wife. Stop it. No, if you. If you said to me, Donna, I want something a little more crazy. If you were into... You say go back to your first wife. Not that motherfucking crazy. But you know what I'm saying. Not psycho crazy. But let's say I'm really desiring something that I can't... Either I'm not interested in or I don't have the skill set for whatever. I could send you to somebody who does. Like you have sent me to the BDSM party. Same exact thing If I want to get my freak on I want to be tied up And flogged You are not into that I get it I love you for that But what the cool thing is About being swingers I'm like I don't need it in my life But the fact that you Allow me to experience that Is so awesome Okay but that's in the swing world I'm almost talking Well we are talking swing world Yeah we are talking swing world But even But it applies what I'm saying To the non-swing world To the vanilla world Yeah you want your wife I have to do a little more for you. Oh, yeah. Do something for her. Well. I don't know what that is, but do something for her. Make it so she can appreciate you and wants to do more for you. And the thing is with women, they, I, okay, I'm only vaguely speaking of it as a woman because. You're a woman. You can speak. I can, but I have some weird. You're not vaguely a woman. Yeah. I would know. I've done extensive research. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I can see things from a male point of view, but as a woman, if you want your man to be more. We're doing the things that, like the household stuff, you know. Or whatever you deem you want done. You want done. Then stepping it up in the bedroom a little bit, if you can, that'll get it. That'll do it. Hopefully. Hopefully. Yeah, sometimes we all have to step outside our comfort zone. What's that? We all have to step sometimes outside our comfort zone. I would say baby steps. Take a toe. I mean, I'll just use, I'll just use anal as an example, okay? I did not go in full tilt boogie with a fucking beer can up my ass day one. No, it was a Coke bottle. Fuck you, no. That's not the truth. It wasn't? You have to work up to it. You have to, you know, start enjoying anal play. I mean, there's these baby steps, baby steps for everything. You know, if your partner is resistant, try baby steps. And I'm just using anal as my example because that's the one I can document definitely. You know, you went for anal play to, like, those long tubes up my ass. God, I love them. They got me. I mean, I came so hard. Tubes? Yeah, you know those cigar tubes? Oh, okay. When I would fuck Billy. I was like, tubes? Yeah. Were we doing an experiment? Yeah, those cigar tubes, the metal ones, they were smooth. And when I was with Billy, the only way I could really come is that if I was on top of him and we slid one of those tubes up my ass. And I was like, oh, okay, this is good, this is good. And then you start working your way up. Okay. Yeah. And it's all a matter of evolution and what starts to feel good. And next thing you know, it's beer can time. Next thing you know, it's fucking midgets. But that took a while. That took a long while. Now I like the larger butt plugs in. The little ones just don't do anything. Like the vibrating ones. They don't stay in. Fuck you. If I sneeze, they pop out. Oh, fuck. I got it right in the eye. I was going to say, I missed that eyeball. You got to be careful with that, right? But yeah, that has, well, it slid out. It didn't pop out like that, but it certainly slid out. I don't know if we answered any of the questions. I don't think we did either. Sorry. It was a fun conversation. Yeah, it was fun. Hey, if you want to, again, I want to thank everyone who listens. Hopefully you maybe learned something or makes you think about something or if nothing else. No. Hopefully we entertained you if nothing else. We appreciate everyone who listens. Our numbers continue to grow, and we really want to thank you. 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