In this episode of the Hot Wife Podcast, hosts Donna Lynn and Vince reflect on Donna's past as an exotic dancer and how her experiences would differ if she were still in that role today.The conversation delves into the dynamics of swinging, the insecurities that can arise, and the legalities surrounding adult entertainment. The hosts share personal anecdotes and insights, creating an engaging dialogue about their journey in the lifestyle. In this engaging conversation, the hosts delve into their personal experiences and insights regarding adult entertainment, including memorable moments from their past, the evolution of platforms like OnlyFans, and the appeal of fetishes.They discuss the dynamics of dancing and adult work, particularly how these experiences would differ in today's context, and the growing interest in mature women within the industry.Takeaways- Donna reflects on her 22 years as an exotic dancer and how her conduct would differ now.- They explore the idea of pushing boundaries in adult entertainment.- Legalities surrounding prostitution and adult work are discussed.- The conversation highlights the difference between playtime and real relationships.- Donna shares a personal story about a past encounter with a client.- A memorable 21st birthday can lead to unexpected experiences.- Teasing is a crucial element in adult entertainment.- Mature women are increasingly appealing in the adult entertainment industry.- The fantasy aspect of adult work adds to its allure. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/hot-wife-podcast-and-the-swinger-lifestyle--5343522/support. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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hello everybody this is donna lynn and welcome to my hot wife podcast and of course i'm here with my wonderful husband, Vince, of course. Oh, here we go again. Oh, come on. How many shows is this you lie to people? Every one. Okay, good. Just checking. Every single one. They're no better than I am, in the sense of you lie to me constantly. Constantly. Okay, just checking. Yep, so there you go. All right. So, anyway. Hey, what the hell is with this warm weather? I don't know. It's, what, 70 was like, today was like in the 60s. Well, yesterday was freaking 80 degrees here.
We're in Pennsylvania, those who don't know. So, it's, you know, it's goddamn November, and it is 80 degrees. Now, I don't want to hear the climate change bullshit. It happens. Yeah, I mean, we've lost out some records from like 1948 and 1932. I mean, like... Yeah, it happens. Yeah, and it's been very dry, which is very scary. That's the part, yeah. I think they're calling for a chance of rain this weekend, so we'll see. Yeah, I could go for some rain. I could go for some head. I don't know what show you're listening to. Welcome to Donna Wynn's weather show. It's not exciting.
My manscaping is dying. It's so sad to see. I can't even look at it. It just makes me sad. Everything's dying. I don't know. Those who have paid attention, Donna is healing well with her shoulder. Yeah, I'm moving my arm pretty good. She's not punching me, but she's slapping me. Yep, so that's it. She's getting there. I see the surgeon on Monday. She'll be back to abusing me in no time. No time at all. Okay, just checking. So let's do the... You know what? We're not going to do Spunkwood right now. Okay. I'm going to do... Okay. Unlock your desires with Fifty Shades of Pleasure.
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That sounds erotic. Yeah, the new issue came out, I think, on the 1st. I want to invite everyone to go to 50shadesofpleasure.com. It's a free digital publication we put together. But you put together. Whatever. I just look over your shoulder from time to time. You get credited as the editor. But Vince does a great job of laying it out and putting it all together. Get the article pulled together. We invite people to submit articles, stories, or submit things you'd like an article on. Even if someone wants to submit pictures. Oh, that'd be cool.
If you want to submit pictures of your wife or whatever, we'd love to be posting pictures of hot wives or multiple hot wives or whatever. So keep us posted on that. And again, we'll have to have you have a signed release and have proof of age and all that stuff. But love to have that. Even recipes. If you have something like something you like to make for parties you go to. Love that. I didn't put any in this month, but usually I try to put in like a drink recipe or something like that. So it's free. It's available on your digital outlet, whether it be a computer or phone or tablet.
And it's all the issues. It's so unlike getting a subscription to a printed one, where it's like hypothetically you're at the mechanic waiting for your card to get fixed. Hypothetically. You could open up one of these issues and read the articles and see not just the current one but all the past ones. Not the future ones, but just the past ones. Okay. Makes sense. Some people you've got to spell it out for. Okay. So anyway, so tonight's topic is? Well, you came up with an interesting one. If I was still dancing. And you danced for 22 years. 22 years, that's correct.
As an exotic dancer, stripper, whatever you want to call it. But I wasn't in the lifestyle. Now, if I could go back and redo that, but be in the lifestyle with you, would I conduct myself differently? No, it was the way you danced back then, your conduct back then. That's what I just said, my conduct. Well, because you were with other people that weren't swingers. Right. Whereas if you were still dancing today, I would say. Right. And because of where we are now, how would you, what would your conduct be, would your conduct be any different now? I would be a whole lot different. I mean.
Now, you still have laws and rules to stay within. Oh, yeah, absolutely, but absolutely. I mean, you just, you know, but within that confine of working within the law, which I was always pretty good with. I got in trouble a couple of times with doing some. You pushed a boundary sometimes. Yeah, with some girl-girl stuff, which was always kind of fun. But, like, remember we did that couch dance with April? Yes, I do. With the blonde hair? Yeah. And she pulled her G-string aside. Soff and wet pussy. Soff and wet pussy. That's the first thing I thought about. I was like, oh.
Man, we definitely would have been taking her home. We weren't swingers yet, I don't think, at that time. I think we're dabbling, because I know I did talk. Yeah, we weren't doing content creation and stuff yet. No. And we dabbled, but... Right, it would be a whole different ballgame. Well, at that time, you still had a level of insecurity with it. Yeah, I was still like, this is just too weird. And again, initially when we got into the swinging, you allowed me to play with other women. It was uncomfortable at first. Yeah, I think you had a level of insecurity with it.
Like, is he going to leave me with this or whatever? And I tried, but you wouldn't let me. I outgrew those insecurities. Well, obviously. So it's like, but I get it though. I understand how when people have those things, it's like, yes, I get it. I was there. No, I respect people who have those insecurities. But I mean, we've been together. But if you have them, you should not be swinging. I mean, you could say you don't have them and you get into swinging. It's going to be in the back of your head. Right, right. Okay?
And we have been proven, we've proven the fact that, you know, we are, it's capable to get past that. Right. I was going to say, yeah, I've had some, it was a little weird. I mean, you've been on numerous hot dates. Yeah, absolutely. Where I'm not there and stuff like that. But it has to be with people we trust. And that's only more from a safety aspect. Not like, oh, I trust he's not going to steal her away from me. That's not an issue. That's not even an issue. Nobody's going to want me, truthfully. I disagree with that. I'm fun to play with, but you don't want to live with me.
You have plenty of guys who... Oh, they don't. You have plenty... They don't live with me. If I was to disappear today, I guarantee you that, you know, at my funeral, if they showed up, they probably would just to make sure I was dead. I guarantee you. So what are you doing after the funeral? Do you need some consoling? You know, would, you know, would little anal sex help you get over that? Stop it.
I saying yeah but they still they it the playtime is fun but the reality of you know actually having a relationship with somebody that's a whole different can of worms well there's a couple guys i think that you would entertain relationships with the guy who helps us with the deck well we can say his name mark i know there's only five marks out out there, so this is Mark number two. You narrow down the five Marks in the world and trace it, which one is in the Philadelphia area? Oh my God, it's that Mark. It's that Mark. Absolutely.
No, someone like Mark would probably, I I could see where you might be potentially attracted to pursue a relationship with Mark. He's a bit stoic for me. He doesn't have. Well, Mark's got a lot on his plate. Yeah. Because he has other commitments. I'm going to put it that way. Exactly. So he's pulled a bunch of different ways. But I think, and again, the dynamic of someone who potentially would want or is attracted to you in more than just the playmate thing, when your husband's there, it has to be stowed away.
I think if for whatever reason I wasn't around and you said, hey, Mark, you want to come over and... Console me. Yeah, console me over and over. Shut up. No, I think Mark would be one of those guys that would be... would probably loosen up more. Maybe. I just don't think he has that. He doesn't have- He's not me. No. And he should be grateful for that. No, that's one thing. He's very cut and dry. Well, I've spoiled you. He's more cut and dry. I've spoiled you. Well, spoiled me or soiled me? I'm not sure which.
Well, not know what i mean but like i expect your like bizarre personality and you know you come up with kooky things that you do yeah you know off the wall and vincisms and but again i it doesn't matter situation i mean we'll get off of this in a second if i was to disappear i think you'd be hard-pressed to find someone that was me. Oh, there's no way. Yeah. Yeah, there's just no way. And that might be a good thing. I don't know. I'd have to, like, start dating people from, like, maybe a local. Mental institutions. Mental institutions. Yeah, unstable people. Yeah, alcoholics.
Something like that. Wait, you've done that already. Never mind. That didn't't work out well So maybe that's not such a good idea Go to AA meetings, try to find people Try to pick up guys at AA meetings Where do you meet men? AA, NA Outside therapy centers But anyway So back to the original topic Yeah, how do you get off of that? So if you were still dancing now What are some of the things you might do differently? Well, definitely I would have more, if these, I have a lot of, see a lot of women there. Now, we know dancers are not as crazy as they – Provocative.
Provocative as – well, okay, my experience with the dancers I worked with over 22 years, they weren't nearly as adventurous sexually as you might think they would be. So – and I think with April, I do remember kind of like asking her if she wanted to do a threesome with us. And I think I got shot down and cut off at the knees. Seems to me. And she was like, and we saw with other dancers, remember all the toys they'd give you, give away at Christmas time? Oh, I don't use these. I'm like, give me that. I think she wanted to. I don't.
If I remember she wanted to, and she's like, it would be weird because you were her friend. I don't know. I think that was her thing. And she was like, you know, again, yeah. And we had talked to her about content creation back then. Yeah. And she's like, listen, I have a, I'm pursuing getting out of dancing and doing something more. More education. So she didn't want to. She wanted to be a teacher. Yeah. So April wasn't her real name, so it doesn't matter't matter. That doesn't matter. I don't even know what her real name was. I just know she had a sop and wet pussy.
That night, that was amazing. I was talking dirty to her. She thought she was a dirty talker. Oh, yeah. Well, I proved to her. Well, here's the thing. I would have so much playmates with us. You know, maybe. Well, for you. At a strip bar, you're not going to find playmates for me. Not necessarily. Well, some of the dancers, yeah. That's what I mean with the other dancers. Okay. Or maybe some of the customers that I would, you know, bring home as a fun playmate for me. Yeah.
Well, that was one of the questions I was going to have for you, was do you think you would have more fun auditioning, per se, I guess, or just finding potential co-stars with you. Yeah, definitely very possible. Yeah. Definitely. Like we were supposed to get together that one guy just never worked out. Remember you met him at a restaurant?
just never He was a bullshit artist He talked a great game And that was an erotic time When we got together at that restaurant That was pretty erotic That was early in our relationship Oh yeah it was, it really was We went to a restaurant and you sat next to him and there was some fondling and kissing going on yeah yeah but i was like okay let's which i'm sure had the other customers like wait she came in with him then this guy came in sat down next to her and oh yeah he was fingering you under the table yeah he was playing his crotch on top under the table.
It's like, well, okay, I never went anywhere. I said, what happened? Well, he got another job. Oh, is that what it was? He got another job. He was a restaurant manager. And he got a job at another restaurant, and his schedule was such it didn't coordinate. Is that what it was? That's what it seemed like. That's what, yeah. It seemed like we kept trying to like, okay, let's get together. Let's meet someplace. And he just, it just never, never materialized. I don't know. I maybe got cold feet. I don't know. No, I don't think that. He wanted to fuck you in a worse way. Yeah, but.
It was just a matter of scheduling. He didn't live close to us. No, he didn't. He was down closer to that area. Right. It was like an hour's drive.
So it was just a matter of scheduling he didn't live close to us no he was down closer to that area right it was like an hour's drive so it was pretty far but yeah i mean i think if i if i was still in that realm we could probably have a lot more fun maybe i mean it would have been more fun i think across the board um but i also think like you know like as an example you didn't flash your pussy to people much did you before it's against the law yeah but i mean i dance nude i dance nude well yeah then you can't hide it yeah then you're supposed to be nude but like well but when you did a couch dance in a nude bar you didn't dance nude in the couch dance no you weren't allowed to that's what i'm saying no so whatever the law was i think you'd be more you'd be more pushing potentially to flash your pussy oh yeah sure it's it's just the law thing you just don't want to get caught i'm i'm sure i like certain customers i know if you know they're regular yeah you know you know they're not a cop exactly yeah but i mean it would certainly put a whole different spin On like the private parties and stuff The girl girl shows could be a lot more elaborate I don't have to worry about like She's not really bi Well I even think Okay you talked about like getting other girls I think now It'd be a lot easier Back then we were working with some girls for a website That were dancers And they didn't want to get naked naked.
They were prudes. Yeah. But now, so many girls realize that it's the online thing. Yeah. So there's probably more girls that are generating content that are dancers anyway. Exactly. So it would be potentially more erotic and more fun and lucrative. Yeah. And definitely put a whole different spin on things. Yeah, I could, you know, I wouldn't have to worry about, you know, a jealous boyfriend at home and all that other nonsense. No, you don't have to worry about that. Yeah, definitely wouldn't have to worry about that. The husband's a different story. Oh, yeah, my jealous husband.
But, I mean, we could have had, certainly private parties could have been a little more naughty, you know. Oh, yeah, well, okay. So you did, I mean, you know, again, we were just friends at the time. Right, exactly. I balanced your bachelor party. Yeah, and it was pretty. And you did not do extras. No, prostitution is actually legal, but. Sure, but what I'm saying is, and that was one of my stipulations, because I was quote-unquote happily married. Yeah, you don't want to get busted.
I wasn't going to get busted for prostitution, not that I was doing it, but being that I'm with you, I would be an associate. Exactly, exactly. But, so, if you were doing bachelor parties now, do you think you might be more interested in doing extras? It's just... I mean, there's a loophole. Thank you. If you were doing bachelor parties now, do you think you might be more interested in doing extras? I mean, there's a loophole that you could do them, do extras, and not get busted. The guy is buying 10 minutes of your time. Of your time. 15 minutes of your time.
And what you two do is always, he doesn't say, I'm paying this much money to get my dick sucked. Right. Or whatever. Or whatever. He just says, we says we say hey you went 10 minutes alone with her that's fine as long as no one mentions that oh i want to your ass i want to get a job or whatever you sit there to know you're just buying my time it's a consultation fee i don't know if know if that would actually fly. But let's just say it would be, we could have, we select people. It would not be a party. Nobody would pay for anything.
It would just be like a little makeshift bachelor party where we knew everybody. That would be certainly fun. That way You know, that way we won't have to worry about anybody getting in trouble and it's people already in their lifestyle. It would be kind of fun. Well, lifestyle party is a different thing. Yeah, definitely a different thing. Then there's no money anywhere. I'm saying, so if you're dancing like you used to, and a guy came up and says, hey, a buddy of mine is having, we want to have a bachelor party. We'd love to hire you to do his bachelor party. If prostitution wasn't illegal.
Well, no, I don't know. to and a guy came up and says hey a buddy of mine's having we want to have a bachelor party we'd love to hire you to do his bachelor party if prostitution wasn't illegal no let me finish let me finish so you go okay i do the show right and you know i get this much per hour for a show we're just like we used to just say that's a one costs this much. Exactly. Again, no one's getting anything during the show. Okay. It's just the performance, which is all you did. Right. You know, you would get there and masturbate and do the other things you did. And the girl-girl shows.
Yeah, whatever. But again, if you had a girl. Exactly. That was with that. So, but now the party's over and the guys are like, oh, you know, is there any more? Well, we, you know, would you be interested if it was like, well, listen, if you want 10 minutes of my time, I will spend 10 minutes alone with you for X, whatever it might be. Right. Okay. That still could be mis... I mean, if it was legal... As long as... I don't know, Vince. I'm pretty sure legally, you could talk to an attorney. Not that we're doing it. Not that we're doing it.
Because like I said, I dealt with a guy who was an attorney, and he explained to me because he was... Oh, this is the guy that pimped out his... Yeah, his sisters, yeah. Yeah, that's not right. Something's wrong there. The thing was, escorting is not illegal as long as you're not mentioning sexual acts. Or exchanging money. If you sit there to consenting adults, you're paying me for my time. And what two consenting adults do in that time is perfectly fine. Okay? The same is you hire a plumber, and they come out and they say, listen, it's time and materials.
You're paying me $150 an hour, and whatever my materials cost, you're paying that. So that's time and materials. So if you sit there and say to someone, let's say potentially, say, okay, 10 minutes, 15 minutes of my time is worth X. And what we do in that time is, you know, as long as they don't go, hey, I'm going to pay you X for a blowjob, then that's illegal. That's absolutely, yes, absolutely. If they just said, hey, you know, I'd love to schedule you for 10 minutes. Right. I want 10 minutes alone with you. Okay.
And then you two go off to a private area and do whatever you want to do for 10 minutes, but they're not paying for a particular act. Sounds like a fine line to me. Oh, it is. It is. But as long as, again, it can be argued but unless they're a cop right and they are recording it right again as long as you don't go well hey you want me to suck your dick that's x you want me to you want to fuck me it's going to be y yeah then it's that's prostitution that's prostitution which is still stupid i know we talked about that too Just legalize it, make about that, too. Just legalize it. Yeah.
Make it safe. Yeah. And then you can tax it. You know? So here's a question for you. Okay. So back when you were doing bachelor parties and you didn't do extras. Right. Was there ever anybody at any of the parties you've been to, whether I was balancing them or somebody else, that you would have considered? Ah. I'm sure there was. I'm trying to think. Ooh. That one dancer's husband? Yeah, the one dancer's husband, he definitely was very hot. Yeah, sure. He would have been fun. You don't know that. You think he would have been fun. Yeah, I think he would have been fun.
But I did a actually, I did a 21st birthday party at a bar. So it was a public bar. So, you know, not too much really went on there. It was just, you know, we got them up on stage. I harassed them and, you know, that whole thing. And I'm trying to think of how much touching was going on because it was a local bar. So they were even a little more strict than some of the other downtown ones. But it seems to me I gave him like a hot seat like on the stage and stuff. But what happened afterwards is a lot more fun. Oh. So after it was all done, he was there with his mom and dad. Oh, Jesus. He's 21.
He just turned 21. Still, you don't go to a bar with mom and dad. Well, they're regulars there, and they're the ones who got a hold of me and said, hey, can you do it back? That's even more wrong. I get it. My mom got me a stripper. Mom and Dad got me a stripper. Dad, I get. Yeah. You know, like my dad came to my bachelor party. Right. Which was really probably one of the most lame. Bachelor parties. Bachelor parties. Yeah. I mean, had the one stripper I was kind of in love with. Oh, yeah, yeah.
So, it was her and another girl, which was nothing special, and they did the dancing and stuff like that, and they did the hot seat kind of thing. It was down in the basement of that bar. Right, I remember the bar. But then after that, we were all playing pool. She was playing pool with us, topless playing pool, bent over in her little G-string, which was cool. That's fun. And we had a good time. It was like hanging out with a topless girl. It was great. And we were getting ready to head down to the casinos and actually invited her to go.
And she says, you know, she had someplace she had to be the next morning. She, or I would go with you. Because we were non-threatening. Yeah. And my dad was there. My dad actually kept feeding her money. Not to do anything, but just gratefulness. Right. Anyway. Sorry, go ahead. So this guy. So after, I know it's weird, his parents got me to do his 21st birthday. Well, after that, I took him home. Oh. Took him home. So you weren't with somebody? No, no. At this time, this is- What, it was fancy free? A little bit. Just after one guy passed away? Yeah. Okay. So I was right around that time.
And so I took him home, and I fucked him for his 21st birthday. There you go. He spent the night. I don't know if he had any explaining to do but i i don't know but it was it was definitely fun it definitely was fun yeah you know so for his 21st birthday i did his little bachelor party you know hot seat thing on the bar then i took him home and fucked him right yeah it was kind of fun he was how old was, 30-something. Okay, cool. Probably just 30. He was 21. Kind of hot? Yeah, it was pretty hot. You know, just that one-time thing.
I never, I don't even think I even really saw him again after that. Well, wham, bam, thank you, ma'am. Well, sort of. It was like, he wasn't like a regular at the bar or anything. I mean, I knew him. You know, I'd see him from time to time. This is a bar I know of? Mm-hmm. The one local does? Yeah, the one local. Susie? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. So it was a, you know, had a good time and stuff. But it was like after that, I guess I got involved in my life and he got involved with his. It was fine. What, did you exchange phone numbers or? No, I don't remember. I don't, this is 30 years.
It was just meant to be a one-night thing. Yeah, it was just a one-time thing. It was fun. Let's keep it fun. That was good. Something he could go back and like, oh, for my 21st birthday, this dancer gave me a hot seat on this stage and gave me some attention, and then she took me home and fucked me. That worked for me. That's got to be pretty good, you know? Yeah, my 21st birthday, the woman who's now my ex-wife. Right. We went out for a really nice dinner. I had a couple of drinks. She had too many drinks. Oh. And she threw up. Oh, no. And I didn't get laid, so whatever. That's terrible.
Yeah. Whatever. Nothing important. Yeah. I didn't really celebrate celebrate my 21st birthday seems to me i had some kind of a sign is in fact i was working in a club i was already working in a bar and i was like i didn't like to drink while i was dancing because the stages were very sketchy to say the least you know the bar heels well yeah but remember that one bar that was like a dope biker bar mickey's yeah oh they Oh, they didn't have a step to get onto the bar. No, you stepped on the refrigerator. You stepped on the sink. A fucking sink. And some of you had to step on the refrigerator.
No, this was the sink. I remember because I was like, guys, my foot slipped, and they had a chair. They didn't have a stool or steps. They had a chair, and they would help you with your hand and help you up on the stage. the stage i was like really this is the best you have for us so i made sure i never drank but i was it was my 21st birthday and i think i had a sinus infection so i couldn't drink anyway because i was on antibiotics and i was like great 21st birthday spending the bar can't drink can't drink so so here's a aspect of this.
So I don't even know if they exist anymore due to cam shows. Okay. So let's pretend cam shows didn't exist. Okay. Okay. So where you're at now sexually. Okay. Okay. Do you think you'd be more interested in dancing at a bar? Right. Or doing like those peep show booths where you could be naked and masturbate and tease guys these peep show booths actually I'm very interested they seem very like they could be fun I've never done them I've done like I went to one time and I told you about this yeah yeah it seemed kind of it was in Center City because I worked down there in Center of Philadelphia.
And I used to walk by my boss all the time. And one day he couldn't go for a walk at lunch. Right. So I was like, you know what? I'm going to stop in. I'm curious. Yeah. I've never been to one. So I went in. You know, and you have to get, you know, exchange real money for their fucking coins. Yeah, their tokens, right? Yeah. You know, it's always like Chuck E. Cheese's. So anyway, I go into this little sticky floor room. Oh, no, okay. And I pump some coins into the fucking slot. The door goes up. Right. And here's this woman. She was okay looking, wasn't earth-shaking. And you didn't know.
They didn't have any availability. No picture, like, oh, here's who you're going into. Oh, no.
You just like, roll the dice see what you get oh no and she was okay was i mean didn't i couldn't tell you exactly what she looked like i just know she didn't like wow me so pops in she she's there and i'll call it a bikini i guess right and she's like oh let me see your dick it's like no i'm paying to say you see you naked you want to see my dick you got to give me some fucking money there you go you know she's like oh come on get your dick out like no you entertain me right right do something i mean i argued not argued but i had this discussion with her for like two minutes and all of a sudden the thing closes i'm like fuck this he left yeah it's like this is not the experience i don't need to see i don't i don't need to show you my dick.
I know. I'm here to see what you have and see how you're going to tease me. Exactly. You know what? You tease me enough, I'll pull my dick out. Exactly. She doesn't want to work. If you're not teasing me, that's like reading to me from a fucking Betty Crocker cookbook. Oh, pull your dick out. So you had two cups of flour. And then stir in two eggs.
Whisk brisket no not happening it's like no you've got to show me what you got that will get me going she didn't want to work that's what it was no i get it i'm not a complete idiot partial but it's just like no i just like and then i i wind up taking a couple coins i had left right and i just like set them on the Thank you. It's just like, no. It's just like, and then I wound up taking a couple of coins I had left. Right. And I just like set them on the thing and walked out. I was like, the next guy can go through this bullshit. I ain't. Right.
So yeah, it's like, okay, that killed any interest I had in that. Right, right. You know. Yeah, now that you describe that experience, I'm like, ah. But that was, and that's how stupid that girl was. Yeah. No. Tease the guys. The trick is to tease them to get the money from them. They'll keep popping the coins. Don't sit there and go, if you want to see my dick, you pay me. Bitch, I'm paying you. You show me the goods. Well, that, I guess that's what. That'd be like you, when you were doing bachelor parties, like, okay, I'm going to get $150 for an hour.
So everyone there sits there naked and jerks off, and I'm just going to watch. That's not what they're there for. That's not it at all, not even a little bit. That's like paying money, go to a restaurant. Okay, here's $100. You guys, you know, just show me food. Don't feed me. Don't feed me. Don't put it in front of me. Just let me watch the guys cook in the background. Oh, look at him chopping his onions. Oh, yeah. It's like, no. No, it's not going to work. It's not going to work. But I guess like you said, it evolved into the whole cam show thing. But again, I don't do cam shows.
Watch or do. Watch or do. Yeah, exactly. But I don't know.
know i mean i have been more disappointed with only fans sites right pages whatever you call it um i'll see a very attractive woman on instagram right and oh here's my only fans page exclusive content i go there and okay and they might have a special for like 8.99 for 30 days it's like okay and again for the fact of so we could see what we're doing how we compare and i'll pay the 8.99 and then i go in and start scrolling through it's like this is the same shit that you have on on instagram yeah you're not showing me anything or what i love is what you said you you pay it to join her site and then it's still pay-per-view once you get in there.
Then they tell you, oh, well, if you want to pay $29.99, I'll show you pictures of my tits. It's like, wait, I just paid for a membership. You told me it was so exclusive. Yeah. It's like, this is bullshit. I've actually contemplated doing a website where I only review people's OnlyFans page. It's like, don't go there. I'd go there and tell you, well, when you go to XYZ, you're going to pay this much per month. And you're going to get in there. She's not going to show you anything and then want to charge you extra to see things. And you aren't guaranteed you're going to see it.
Because I've done that, too. Oh, are you serious?
Okay, charge me 12.99 to see this you know exclusive picture okay here's 12.99 it's just like you told me i'm gonna get to see your beautiful tits well it's your beautiful tits with your arm across your nipple oh my god i still don't see anything you know i could see that if you have like a really exclusive video that might be you know 15 20 minutes long and you want to just say hey they get everything else but this is definitely exclusive they make it 10 bucks it's very you have no recourse to go i feel like i got fucked over here yep yep i know you know um so we're found so you found out i don't see only fans.
I don't see OnlyFans. I actually, I see OnlyFans. I mean, obviously, from what we've experienced with them, they're trying to diminish anything that is porn. Yeah, they make you jump through hoops. It's like Instagram. Instagram, they're really coming down. I see more content creators that have five profiles and three of them have been taken down. Yeah, I had five taken down. Yeah. And I had like 14,000 followers. Or had. Had, yeah. I was like, I gave up. I'm like, I'm done. You showed butt cheek. We can't have that. Oh, my God. I'm the only person with butt cheek. Jesus Christ, yeah.
Someone wants to put money out. They can make an Instagram-type site that is for adults only. Oh, they'd clean up. I'll see five memberships. There you go. Yeah, that's why I like them. I'm going to give them a little plug. Fuck them. That's why I like many bids. First of all, their customer service was always very attentive. I had little problems. And if you go to Donna Wynn.
HotWonnalyn.com hotwifedonnalyn.com and when my shoulder gets better I'm shooting again so things are a little bit she's going to be taking dick in every horse she can but like with many vids they embrace fetishes and OnlyFans or they embrace but they embrace like more... Sex. However you... Whatever you want to see for the most part. I was going to say even more extreme sex. Like, OnlyFans is okay for sucking and fucking. As long as it's legal. Yeah. I mean, it seems like OnlyFans is okay with like very, very basic vanilla sucking and fucking. You do anything that's...
That's even getting cracked down. Oh, really? Yeah, OnlyFans is fans is because i know i think that might be part of the thing is they're cracking down on all that because i know i did something and it was like i had a guy is the last thing i got really torn down was a guy with the mr beer can dick yeah and that was i had that the picture have up is like his big dick is in my pussy and I still have a butt plug in my ass. And they said that was extreme gaping and they tore everything down. There's one girl I follow who. I was like, what? I follow, she has a free membership.
She just did a PPV, a pay-per-view. Yeah, right. And she was like, they took down my post where she had apparently pleasured herself anally with a toy. Oh, my God. They said it was – she says in the post that Instagram – I'm sorry. Oni fans says it was too graphic. It was just her and a toy in her ass. Oh, my God. And she says they took it down. They said it was too graphic. So I think Oni fans is in the process of their downslide. Yeah, I'm sticking with many bids. First of all, the categories range from the very, very things that I'm not really into. But okay, whatever. You can do PBS.
What are you not into? Just kidding. Yeah, I know. I'm not really into golden showers. But I get it. We're allowed to do that on ManyBids. You cannot do that on OnlyFans. Don't not even think about it. I like being restrained. There's a bunch of videos I did I could not put up on OnlyFans, but many vids, they were fine with it. They have a whole section called Step Fantasy, where you can pretend that you're the stepmom, the step, as long as you use the word step, you can do those kind of, okay, taboo. It's important if you do that stuff, you have to use the word step.
Never say, oh, grandma, oh, mom, you have to use the word step. Right, and they're fine with that because they know it's a fantasy. As taboo as it may be, you might see us. If you don't use the word step, they don't know. Exactly.
They'll say, step sis does this with the whatever and they're and they kind of embrace those kind of fantasies you could never ever get away with anything like that yeah and then there was the one i like um i think is really cool to have certain pieces of clothing torn off of you sure remember the pantyhose guy and i i was fucking with the panties i made a little then as he's fucking, he rips it off. I could not put that up on OnlyFans. Many vids, they were fine with that. Nobody's getting hurt. He rips the stockings. I mean, there's a fetish thing.
They embrace a lot of the more fringy fetishes, you know, like the stockings and all these kind of things that I think are fun. I don't find them to be obscene or anything else, but OnlyFans can't do that. You're ripping clothing, that's indicative of a rape scene. It's a contra to our community standards, blah. It's like, wait, does the video portray that this is something the woman doesn't want? Yeah, it's obvious that I was doing the ripping.
When you're seeing lighting in the edge of the camera as a video and and uh you know stuff it's like yeah that looks like a typical rape scene sure yeah that's you know it's lit nicely and she's yeah exactly so she keeps looking at the camera with a smile with a smile yeah i know yeah okay yeah so i'm kind of over yeah i love those videos they're like i'm cheating on my husband while he's at work now the camera is moving around and the woman like she's sucking the guy's dick and she like looks up the camera for a few seconds like trying to see where the camera is right right yeah okay so this is why i i don't really uh like people say like oh my God, you must have so much porn.
I have a lot of porn I shot. I don't watch porn because when I watch it, I critique it. Critique it, I know. And the sitter's like, well, she's not even conveying, she's not conveying the story to me. I mean, I pay more attention to everything but the sex.
Right, right, that's the problem.'s like wow this is the wrong camera angle i really don't need to see the side of her face in her ear while he's like fucking pumping her fucking pussy it's like why don't we bring the camera down and around show the erotic part it's like oh look at her ear oh my god that ear is so hot earring a couple camera angles that were kind of like well studious if you guys don't again the way we shoot or have shot right i have four cameras set up i love that i'm hoping you guys kind of adhere to where i say okay camera here yeah and also you guys also you guys go off by 10 degrees.
Also it's like, well, I'm getting a shot of his fucking hip. Yeah. And sometimes it's harder to get yourself in. Yeah. Because they're static cameras. I can't move them. Yeah, you can't move them. So anyway. Actually, that does work out pretty good though because it allows, it might not be quite ideal for, but it allows the me and my playmate just to do what we want to do. Okay, so let's back up to the original concept. If you were dancing today, how would it be different? So here's my, if you stayed with the podcast this far, I think this would be the most erotic question I can ask you.
All right. How much more would it be erotic for you now to be a dancer at this point in the sense of realizing that it's like, I can invite this guy home. I can invite this guy home. So much more erotic. I could just take this guy in a parking lot and fuck him. I could tell him to meet me after work. I could tell him, you know. Right, exactly. You know, how much more, and then that would add, I think, to your performance. Like, you might even think differently, like, when you come out on stage. Right.
And, like, I'm going to give it even a little more because, you know what, I'm going to fuck one of these guys. Exactly. I mean, it would be so much, I've got to be so slutty. I'd be so terrible. That would be awful. But, yeah, it would definitely be a whole lot more fun. I mean, if things were the way they were back then, I don't know how it's changed. I have not been in a bar. We haven't been to a titty bar in eight years. A million years. But it was fun teasing the guys. It was very erotic for me, very erotic. But now you're teasing them with the potential. Absolutely.
Okay okay like there was that one gentleman we call tollgate yes he was wearing these really nice dress pants they were pleated but his dick was not he wasn't very tall was he no i i'm gonna guess i saw him once i heard you talk about him all the time and the one time i came to the bar, and he was wearing sweatpants, gray sweatpants. I thought he was wearing, like, dress pants. No, the day I saw him, he was wearing gray sweatpants, the kind you just tie in there with a little rope at the right place. Yeah, yeah. And his dick passed me five minutes before he did.
Yeah, that's why I was calling him. This gentleman, he had to have 14 inches minimum. Yeah, and he was not a real big guy. Tall. No, he was big. No, he wasn't tall. I wasn't tall. I wasn't tall. Sorry. He was pretty long anyway. And again, I think we talked about the situation happened with his wife. Yeah, somehow he got in trouble with his wife, and I got a call from her. Did you ever give him your number or something? He must have given him your number or something. Yeah. But I vouched for him. I said, he's actually quite a gentleman. There was nothing.
I said, he's here for eye candy, and just that's about it. I didn't tell her about the couch dance thing. I was like, yeah, your husband's got a big old dick. In today's world, a guy with a dick that big? Oh, my God. You might have been a little more interested. Yeah. Then I was like, oh, that thing's so big, get it away from me. Yeah, I'm fucking poking the back of your spinal cord. Yeah, oh my God. Your brain stem. I think now I could accommodate something like that just a little better. Well, and again, you know, video-wise. Oh, that'd be incredible.
Seeing a little woman like you ride a fucking 14-inch cock. We've done that. You have, I haven't. Well, you have shot it. I haven't ridden any cock. I am happy to say, those who like to, God bless you, but for me, I have not ridden any cock. But, I mean, yeah, I have done that. Yeah. It does look very interesting on video, I have to admit, especially like... Well, just think also, okay, let's go... Okay. Again, now, if you get to add the slutty part to it, how much more money do you think you could make doing that? It's like, oh, I shoot with her all the time. I came here.
She had me go shoot video with her. I wore a mask or whatever. They burned my face. And guys were like, really? Really? Where do I sign up? Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. I mean, again, the vetting process and blah. You have to think about all these things. Oh, sure. It kind of like takes a damp breath of it. Let's pretend in this world that you don't have to worry about people with diseases and da. No, obviously it's a condom situation. Yeah. I mean, would that guy be a trash bag, but that's not true. A trash bag? Probably, it would be a trash bag. No.
But, yeah, you could, you know, it would definitely be. Car cover, whatever. It would definitely be very erotic. Yeah. Especially if they go back into the bar and they're there and we know and we can look at each other and be like, oh, remember what we did? But you could even manipulate that. You'd be doing the couch dance with a guy and he's like, I hear, you know, you look for guys to shoot video with. I'd love to do it. It's like, well, remember what we did? But you could even manipulate that. You'd be doing a couch dance with a guy. He's like, I hear you look for guys to shoot video with.
I'd love to do it. It's like, well, I don't know, dear. You could wind up doing like four couch dance with this guy. Oh, yeah, and then deciding. Yeah, okay. Okay, all right. You seem like he might be fun. I don't know. That's terrible, Vincent. It's all about the money dollar. The fantasy men have is that girls are dancers because they're sluts. Or horny or whatever. No, they're not. They're trying to make money. They're paying their way through nursing school. Yeah. I don't know how many dancers I met. I'm in school to be a nurse. Oh, come on. I didn't start out with nursing. Please.
I'm just saying you're one of many. Yeah. There's quite a few girls. I wanted physical therapy, okay? God damn it. And now you're getting it. Oh, true. That's occupational therapy, but you know, close enough. It's the same thing to me, too. What tag you put on it, it's the same shit. Yeah, I'm moving my arm. That's what I'm doing. Up, down, up, down, in, out, in, out. Let's go upstairs. But anyway. So yeah, that was a concept I had for a topic of like, how would it be different now? How would it be very different?
You know, if you had entered the swinging world then versus where you are now, where you were then versus now in that environment, how would it be different? It would be very different. Yeah. It would be a whole lot more erotic, fun, potentially more lucrative, absolutely. Yeah, I think there's a bunch of positives. That's fun to think about for sure. I'm definitely not going to do that because not this age. Not even close.
And you look incredible incredible but in all honesty guys want to see oh absolutely younger girls and stuff like that and i've always said you heard me say this years ago that i actually think there is a niche out there for if you put together a club right that was mature women i'm going to say 40 and over right that looked good, that was a gentleman's club with women 40 and over that keep themselves, well, I think that would be a niche that I would rather go to. I don't need to see 27-year-olds. They should look good.
Yeah, they should look should okay and generally they don't but but you show me women 40 plus that look good you know they come out stage and dance seductive i don't need them doing pole tricks i don't need them to if they do great but you know what again come around in nice evening gowns just look sultry and right i think that'd be very er whatever. Well, we've seen it even with a lot of my playmates that a lot of them would rather be with a more mature woman across the board. You know, guys half my age or less. Yeah. You know, they're like, no, I want to be with somebody who's.
Well, what's one of the biggest fetishes right now is a stepmom, stepgrandma. Yep. Yep.
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