RA Conversation with Rae Richmond

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this program contains strong sexual content no one under the age of 18 is permitted to listen to or download the podcast in any manner the host guest and performers are all over the age of 18 rebroadcasting this podcast in any manner is strictly prohibited without the written consent of the owners of the hot wife podcast the commentary of this program is the sole opinion of its host and guest it does not reflect the opinion of the podcast owners agents or representatives this podcast is not meant to be taken as professional advice hello everybody this is donna lynn and welcome to my hot white podcast i'm still laughing at the at the new intro.

Thank God for AI. Yeah, a little intro, a little Hot White Podcast song. And I'm here once again with my wonderful husband, Vince. Sure. Yeah. Still don't buy it. You don't buy it? But we have a special guest here today. Yes, we do. Ray Richmond, say hello. Hello, everybody. I'm so excited to be here, Donna. It's so nice to meet you. Yeah, I'm so glad you're on. This is kind of exciting. I'm just reading over some of your bio, and I see we have a lot of parallel. You know, we're more mature, blah, and the OnlyFans. So it's really kind of cool. Speak for yourself. I'm not mature. Okay.

Yeah, right. My husband's definitely immature, for sure. Oh, my goodness.

Fart jokes fart jokes are you know abundant with him it's a way it's a way of life okay i love it so tell us a little bit about um well introduce yourself yeah okay and then give us a little background you know who you are sure well my name is ray richman i'm 57 years old and i am a top only fans model i started on the platform last may it's kind of a crazy story how i got started my boyfriend cam is actually 20 years younger than me and so we kind of we got together when i was 55 and he was 35 which is kind of shocking to a lot of people, but it is what it is.

And so, you know, we were kind of wild in the bedroom. And so we started filming ourselves and that stuff was really hot. And so Cam was like, you know what, maybe you should think about their sites out there. People, you know, of course, I knew what those sites were. I'm totally naive.

So, but the thought of doing that at that point at 55 was like you know that was just not really something that had been in my mind up till then and I said they you know who's gonna want to see that and he's like maybe the way you do it everybody's gonna want to see it and so I started researching and I found a lot of other creators in the mature space but not so many where it's really saturated and I felt like there's an opportunity there and so first and foremost I'm a business woman and when I saw that there were creators that are my age that you know have similar you know backgrounds to me that do similar things to what we do that are being extremely successful and are making a lot of money I thought you know what I'm going to do this and so I did a lot of research for several months created my niche created the content and I thought you know what I'm going to put it out there I might get laughed off the internet I don't know I don't it could go either way like you know everybody's going to hate it everybody's going to love it or I'm going to get run out of the city with pitchforks and fire or something and what happened was it took off immediately in a crazy way like absolutely insane and so here we are not quite a year later and it's going strong better than ever and this is what i do full-time and really so you're fairly new to the whole scene then yes.

I come from a 30-year corporate career. In fact, I just left my day job recently because I'm of that old-school mentality.

Being out on my own was really the security and all that, but it just came to a point where my income doing this surpassed my job income a long time time ago and so it was really just a mindset mentality I had to get myself to in between my content creation the course I have a website I'm starting that's a lingerie site I have a podcast myself and I'm going to be launching and a bunch of other things that are coming up it just time wise it just didn't make sense anymore to spend the time that i can make a lot more devoting it to my business so this is this is where i'm at now full time that's great yeah yeah i was in corporate america for 20 some odd years myself and we were doing this on the side so i we would we would shoot on the weekends and people we've said this before but i I'd come in on Monday and be like, hey, Donna, how was your weekend?

I'm thinking, oh, my God, I fucked eight guys. We did a gangbang. We did this. And I'm like, oh, it was fine. And inside my head, I'm like, oh, I can't tell anybody. Just did housework. It was quiet. Yeah, it's like, yeah. You end up saying same old shit, you know, meeting. Same old, same old.

Instead of saying did some guys around the house house i did some things around the house yeah it was actually kind of funny are you still with uh your boyfriend or i am okay so do you guys basically practice like a swinger lifestyle or do you just shoot with him only or no i shoot with him only we've actually um not shop content with any other partners i'm not ruling it out in the future but we are monogamous that's just our our thing yeah i mean we're just i'm i don't know i mean i've thought about it we've talked about it it sounds exciting but it's not something that we've explored yeah no it's if it's doing well as what you're doing now why if it's not broke don't fix it you know what i'm saying any down the road you can you know explore other things too there is a lot of content creators though that started out as swingers and just said you know we videotape it or photograph it for our own pleasure anyway why not you know share it so that and that's kind of where we were so 20 years we have video from 20 years ago with the first guy ever played with yeah it's terrible quality it's terrible terrible quality but i love it i've been a photographer since 84 and everything else and you know did a lot of commercial stuff and then did a lot of different things for the adult community and so just when donna and i got together it just seemed like the natural progression so well i do a lot of solo content also but cam is my only partner for the boy girl stuff and and we get pretty wild in fact i've had a couple of videos that only fans knocked me on the nose and took down so i don't live over on fansly so um one was uh we fucked in a sex shop while i was open with people around and they did not like that and then the other one was a very rough discipline that was a real life scenario where he was really upset with me and all that and punished me and only man seems to think that went too far so yeah i was fine with it but they didn't like it so it's on my fansly yeah we've we've had stuff taken down i mean stupid It's a covered bridge it just looks like the side of a barn they're like oh that's public you can be arrested i'm like how the hell do you know you're in england how do you know and what was the other one you know i did find a way around some of that when you take because we've done outdoor content also we have some on a farm his family farm and uh in a car but the car was on my property right and so in the description i always make sure we are hidden secluded with no one around for miles and so that's in the terms of service if you're in a place where there's not a reasonable you know expectation that the public could come across you they do allow that but you have to be sure you word it super care super careful what was the other thing they tore down Oh, I was with a guy and he had a it was pretty pretty big but i also had a butt plug in and they said it was extreme gaping or whatever and they didn't like that either so that's that's on fancy that's on loyal fans all the other ones they take many vids but nope not on only fans it's like boy oh boy no you can't have any kind of restraint so no bdsm things no kind of you know if you want to get kinky I'll see you next time.

vids but nope not on only fans it's like boy oh boy no you can't have any kind of restraint so no bdsm things no kind of you know if you want to get kinky forget about it only fans just you know they don't like it's a tough it's a tough it is tough it's you've done quite well with it yeah that sounds good extremely well i'm very very blessed um you know the thing is it's funny you said what they called that because they called non-illegal activity i was like this is two consenting adults this is you know right so i just took it down i'm not gonna argue with them i'm not gonna lose my account over it so no no it's not worth it put up on other sites if it's happening to you and you submit it how is it illegal how?

How is it illegal? You know, I don't know. I think there were some words said, maybe I might've said no a couple of times and he didn't listen, but that was part of it. We knew what was happening. So, but they took that as that I did not give consent. Like, okay. Like I took the video and put it up there. So clearly I was it was kidding. It was crazy. But, anyway. Yeah. So, there was an article, apparently, in the Huffington Post written about you? Yes. I actually wrote it. Oh, okay. Oh, you wrote the article. I did. I did. And they actually had it on their TikTok and Instagram.

They had me do some video versions of it a couple months ago. You can find those on their TikTok and their Instagram also. Oh, cool. We'll have to check them out. Yeah. The article was entitled, I became a huge OnlyFans star at 56. Then someone outed me in my hometown. What's that about? Oh, y'all. I was minding my own business, just doing what I do.

And someone had come across my instagram which is public obviously we use it and um she had found that and then gone to my only fans not subscription only it's a paid platform i don't have anything that's public as far as news or anything like that it's all behind that paywall my description is extremely descriptive as to what people will see if they come to my page and subscribe of course because I want them to know what's on there so she basically tagged my real name which obviously isn't Ray Richmond and my stage name in this Instagram post and said if you want to see what it's like go look at Ray Richmond and make that post.

And I didn't know anything about it until my Facebook messenger started absolutely blowing up and I was floored. So a bunch of people contacted me. Some of them were people who I didn't even really know that well. Some of them were people who were my friends.

Most of the people, well, I won't say most, a good portion of them were shaming me girls who had been friends with my entire life we had a girls chat group chat there were four of them and me and these girls basically elected one girl to come and talk to me and tell me that now cam and i are both sober and he's got a couple years sobriety, and I'm coming up on two years also. And so basically they decided that he was drugging me and coercing me because there's no way that I could possibly want to do this. Now, how insulting is that? You guys, I was just absolutely floored.

You don't have a mind of your own. You're controlled by that man. Shame on him.

I mean, that's some good dick you know he doesn't need to use it to control me like that yeah but yeah so that happened and then you know people just coming at me ridiculing me take that down what are you doing you're embarrassing yourself i'm like okay first of all you went and looked for it and you found it and now you see it so how am i embarrassing myself if you went looking for something to get upset by like if you know that it's sexual content and you don't want to see sexual content it's like that old joke about the lady who called the police and said she could see her neighbor naked and they said well we don't see anything she said well you have to stand up on that box and lean way over so you really really go out of your way so yeah yeah we've we've talked about that on the show before with how people in the swinger lifestyle are like oh i'm afraid you know someone might know them there it's like you know it's like well if they're on a swinger website they had to join right they had to join you know and my ex-wife she was a big one like going into an adult bookstore she was what if someone sees me it's like they're there too exactly you know so it's just like you know um i'm sorry yeah and you know donna for the 20 plus years that she's been doing this stuff um you know, as an exotic dancer and everything else, she's only ever really had two people ever go, hey, I know who you are.

Well, one was a coworker.

He had gotten fired from the corporate America, corporate job I was at, unfortunately, because he found my OnlyFans pants he bought some videos you know and he hit me and i was like oh that's really nice and then he sent me this message and it was kind of like kind of cryptic it's like by the way my name is no no i can't say the name oh it doesn't matter how many people have that name go ahead i'm not going to worry about it but um so i was like wow that's really weird that he i don't know that many people with that name so i found he was an old friend that i worked with and i still text him he moved to canada i was hoping he's in his he's in the lifestyle him and his wife girlfriend that kind of are swingers and i was like yeah we should get together it wasn't fun but it never never panned out so and then the other was a guy at the gym yeah i just he he came up because i know who you are and we wound up he wound up being a stunt dick yeah so that's awesome and the weird thing is it's like i did i did have a stage name at that time but i just gave up and i'm just using my name my name is donna it's really it's a bunch of my birth certificate donna lynn is my real name look it up if they find me so be it yeah I'm definitely not ashamed of anything I do and that's the thing that I think makes some of these people the maddest right is because I am proud and if someone was to contact me and this has happened a lot and they start out being all absolutely outraged and then I talk to them and I'm like well exactly what is it that outrages you?

Is it because I'm filming myself having sex? Is it because I'm letting people watch me sleep with this one person that I'm in love with in a relationship with? Is it because, you know, is it the letting people watch parts you don't agree with? Where does your morality need to fall in my life? Like, you know, you let me know where you think I should be.

I'm going to tell you to go fuck yourself, but, tell me what you think i should do so that's kind of the thing though a lot of people have actually come around and one girl who was you know deeply religious and i could go to church myself you know i believe in god and um she said at the beginning that i was going to hell it was terrible and it was awful by the end of the conversation she's like oh okay well when you get really rich of things you can buy me a car well another thing people don't understand the only difference between normal people and we'll use the term porn star for a content creator is you do it in front of a camera that's it they have sex too so don't you're no better than anyone else you have you might do it in front of a camera you but just might not put it out there so they don't do it like we do it though donna i don't think so i'm just saying but seriously though it's very hard because you know i i do when i'm out in public sometimes i'll see people looking at me when i consider to be a little too long or strangely and i'm thinking gosh do they know who i am it doesn't bother me Thank you.

in public sometimes i'll see people looking at me when i consider to be a little too long or strangely and i'm thinking gosh do they know who i am it doesn't bother me but especially when cam and i go out somewhere together i'm like you know it's only inevitable it's going to happen at some point because we live in a pretty big city in florida it's bound to happen um but i'm not ashamed of it again i'm i'm very rich and it's who i am yeah and well there's a lot of content creators in Florida it's become a new mecca but I'm having a hard time I love looking at eyes she's got this low cut top with those obviously A cup breasts I think the letters there's a couple more letters down there yeah i think there's a couple letters together there's three letters they're all these oh my god but you you have incredible eyes too they're just really sparkling so i know that monitor is kind of far but even i can see yeah so so for people who might want to go check out your stuff let get that, talk about that real quick.

So on OnlyFans, it's? Well, if you go to my website, which is rayrichman.com, my OnlyFans is the top link, and my fan page should be the second one. Okay, and that's R-A-E, not R-A-Y. Exactly. R-A-E, R-I-C-H-M-O-N-D, and all of my websites are on there.

I also have have a slushy i'm not that super active on slushy but i do post on slushy and then a lot of my media you know yahoo news best feed that the sun ran an article about my cosmetic surgery i had last year and with pictures i'll then do pictures of me by before and afters um a bunch of daily star articles there's just there's a bunch of media also news nation on balance shows and you can catch that link on there as well okay great yeah you're really active you really have made this uh you know a real business for me it's like um it's like a part-time because i i work two full-time jobs which i won't even get into so 80 hours a week a week.

So my content creator is like just weekends, nights and weekends, you know, whenever I can. Just fun. Yeah. Yeah. It's a hobby. Yeah. It definitely is a hobby. Oh. But it's nice. It's a fun hobby. Yeah. We all get the smile from it. Yeah. And we do. For sure. So you have this other business, the content creator.net. I have my glasses on. Can you tell? Creator success course.net. Tell us about that. So when I started OnlyFans, I'd, like I said, I did a bunch of research. I watched a ton of YouTube videos. I went on Facebook groups. I looked for everything I could find.

I started following big creators to kind of get some ideas. You know, I knew that if I was going to do this, I wanted to do it the right way. And what I found was there is so much conflicting advice out there. And when you're new, you don't know what you don't know. And some of the advice I have come to find is so bad that I think it has to be on purpose. Like people who are afraid of the competition are telling people to do all these crazy things that are not helping their business in the least.

So so when I got to be more successful, when things started really picking up and really rolling, my background is corporate education.

So I was like, you know what what I just need to put a course together so right now it's 20 modules it's actually about to be 21 because I've added a fansly module and a bunch of social media it comes with a Facebook group a private coaching group with me where I answer all of the questions and provide more in-depth coaching like how I've grown my Instagram because y'all when I started even up until like January my Instagram only had like 17,000 18,000 followers and it's 170,000 today and so I've grown it from January till now with these strategies that I'm using so I'm actually about to do a seminar a webinar not this coming Sunday but the next and that'll be on my website also that's a social media seminar that I'm going to have two hours long and break down exactly how I'm growing that the things to watch out for the things that they should absolutely do and not do and it's the things that I'm doing every day to see I have you know 4,000 new followers day before yesterday you know 2.

And, you know, I've had 10,000 followers in a day at one time. And so I kind of have cracked this code a little bit. But anyway, I really feel like it's important to give back and also not gatekeep. There's plenty of room for all of us. There's plenty of guys out there and women who buy content. You don't have to be like over here holding on to your secrets. You're not going to shine any less bright because you help somebody Thank you.

plenty of guys out there and women who buy content you don't have to be like over here holding on to your secrets you're not going to shine any less bright because you help somebody else to shine so i created this course so that i can help these people who literally some of them don't know anything about social media they don't understand that on only fans there's no search feature and they think well i'm not only fans and it's like facebook no it's not you have to drive all your own traffic so it's not only that though it's creator safety it's your boundaries it's your tools that you need to create your content um just every little thing that i found that i didn't know that i've learned since you know that i didn't know that i thought about when I started.

I'm trying to make it so someone can come in there and it's like a roadmap for somebody to really set themselves up. And the way that I do things is a little bit different than not all creators. I know a lot of people don't do it that way either, but I'm very clear about being in a relationship. I don't appear available. I don't, you know, sex with guys to get them to come be on my OnlyFans. I don't offer them like I'm going to be their girlfriend or like there's a chance with me. I don't do it like that. And so many people think that's what you have to do.

Like it gets us such a bad rap because people think you've got to go be a, you know, not that there's anything wrong with someone wants to go be, you know, free with their body and sleep with whoever. But you don't have to do that to get people to come and buy your content. So I'm a content creator. I'm a businesswoman. This is a business. And so I'm teaching people to do it the way I do it. There's a ton of ways to do it besides the way I do it. But this is how I've done it. That's nice. I understand using Instagram as a way to generate people to come to your site.

I have had so much trouble with Instagram. I've had five accounts. One did go up to like 14,000 and boy, one guy will just get pissed off at you and flag it and boom, it's gone. And I could not get it back. And that's happened five times. So now I'm just, I might put up stuff.

i've given up g-rated stuff yeah g-rated it'll take is there's no way of arguing it no there was no way for me to argue it and it was the picture that got flagged was nothing there was nothing showing you know it was a broad and there is well there is um i got snatched on the nose this morning i got sidelined i like to call it they put you in the don't recommend so i learned from this though that you know there is a way to get around that because people women men they get irritated and they report you the women a lot of times are catty men that can't have you or think you're you know doing whatever oh yeah for you so i do have five accounts my main and then my alts right but um so there's little ways that you can slide around that so i'll talk to you about that that's gotten really frustrating i finally just gave up and i just put all my attention into twitter because i can i can put up little stills i can put up little videos and teasers and nobody's going to give me a hard time about it so right and i just have my link to my all my links which is like a website and yeah she has yep yeah the same thing has everything that you need that actually you can find them so this course you're talking about almost sounds like you could almost translate that into just a marketing for somebody with instagram and stuff too you could almost convert that into a you know something that is pliable for both adult oriented and and you know business oriented stuff so i would really need to make a separate course because this is specific to oh sure with respect to you know what you're doing and how you're converting, because I teach sales conversion and how, you know, you get them from your social media to your page and from your page.

Like my account is a paid account. I don't have a free account, it's a paid account. But then content sales. So they don't, on my family, I do have a VIP, which all is included. And I'm looking into doing that on my OnlyFans for a separate account. But as it is now, it's a subscription and then pay-per-view. So I teach how to convert those into sales, like very specifics about what to say.

And so most of what it is now, it is really only relevant to adult creators, but it would be something that now that I have, you know, now that this is my full-time gig, something I do want to do is a social media course. Because I've been really wildly successful growing that Instagram. Yeah, that's crazy. That's what I was, I thought, I hoped I had said that. Yeah, you want to convert it. You know, put your nude here or product.

And some people, you know, that's the thing is that some people think they're going to take some naked pictures and then they're just going to sit back and watch the money roll in right it takes work you know that'd be great if it was that easy but it's constant promotion it's very constant you guys know it's constant promotion it's intense promotion on a constant basis from all different avenues i've tick tock tick tock hates me tick tock is like instagram is to you to me tick tock early on decided you know i'm a sex worker they don't want anything to do with me so i'm unlike my kid tick tock now but yeah we i haven't ventured to tick tock at all i just i don't but uh yeah we've had a few we've had a few uh women approach us about you know it's like oh can you help me i want to do an only fan it's like sure and you know we talked to them beforehand say listen it's a lot of work it's not like you know but and you tell them and they're like okay we took uh you know we shot 10 pictures oh i'm good i don't have to come back for six months right it's like did you want to make money you have to shoot you want to make money yeah something every day yeah it's you have to look at it as a full-time job yep absolutely a thousand percent a full-time job and and it's it can be frustrating and that's the other piece of it too that i talk about in the course and especially in the coaching group is that people do get frustrated because they didn't take off as quickly as they thought they were going to do and it takes a very specific person to continue with that consistency if you're not seeing the results that you want.

And so you need to tweak those, obviously, if it's not working, don't keep doing what's not working. But you do have to consistently promote. Sometimes it's going to take time. I mean, you know, like I said, I took off really quick, but there's people that are really successful who it took them, you know, months or even a year or two before they start to see a consistent income at the level that they wanted.

And my other thing that I say, and this kills me in these groups, I have to step away from the advice groups on Facebook and Reddit for creators sometimes because I just say my line is only take advice from the people who have had the success that you want to replicate.

Why are you listening this girl she's telling you to do this do you know how much money she's making if she's not making 10 20 grand a month i don't want to do what she's doing i don't want to do that like it's not helping her so yeah that's the thing is that people get their advice they hear someone's doing something they think oh that sounds good and it you know, it doesn't work. And then they'll get frustrated and quit. Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of people get the notion. They think that, like, doing anything in content creation is, like, instant money. No, it's not. No, it's not.

It's work. I use the example, it's like fishing in the ocean. You know, when you start, you have to go find, you know, you can put your lure in the water water but you don't know if you're going to hit the pocket of fish that is going to hit the bait you have so you know you have to keep going and going until you find where that bait works until you find your niche you know again donna's in the mature topic and big time mature you know and you know she also has the the red hair so you know there's a niche there with that. You know, you know how it goes. You're hitting mature.

You're hitting large-breasted women. You're hitting, you know, a lot of different, you know, lures in the ocean. So, and until you find that school fish that, you know, you're not going to get much to eat. Exactly.

And some days it's like fishing in the ocean while beating your head against the wall right you know it is i mean it can be that's the thing is you have to be able to still have a life on the outside of that and i think some people get so caught up in it too you know cam and i still go to dinner we still go to the movies we still take our dogs to the dog park i mean we still have a normal life outside of you know we don't just stand here and fuck 24 7 we do fuck a lot but we it's not we um people laugh as i say we don't even feel 20 of what we do i probably need to film more but sometimes we just get caught up and it's crazy so i just need to set cameras up all over the house so i can just hit record and walk in and do your right and that's you know again in the in the lifestyle you know we were you know playing with people but we weren't recording it now we just said well why don't we just combine the two and you know just you know and so we make sure that uh the people that come over sign a release and we do all that you know legal mumbo jumbo stuff and and then we shoot and everybody has fun and some of the guys that were like nervous about it was like you know it's kind of erotic because like i'll have a monitor set up so they can see what i'm videoing and stuff like that um and you know you see these guys that were nervous at first when they're getting off on watching themselves on the screen you know it's like watching porn and being in a porn, and they're getting off on watching themselves on the screen, you know.

It's like watching porn and being in a porn at the same time. I'm watching a porn and having a feeling, you know. We do that. We cast it to the big TVs while we're filming. So, yeah, we do stuff. It's fun. It is fun to watch.

Yeah, because I'll set up, you know, anywhere from two to four cameras with a video switcher so they can see as i'm flipping from camera to camera to get the better view and stuff so i love it yeah we put a little bit of money into camera stuff so yeah we've had to tone things back a little bit since uh vince's daughter moved in with us where they're like they're like cameras all over the walls i guess we have to take these down don't we boo i had to hide all my toys and all my my costumes you know i had to like oh oh damn we had things set up so good oh well so on your so on your website then they can see where they can take take that course Yes, absolutely.

It's on the website. Okay, that's great. There's also a coupon code. Let me tell you about that. So the course is $499. Other similar courses, I actually, I went and talked to this one woman's team when I first started. And her course is like, I want to say it's like $4,000. It's the's the cost of a car and i was like you know what i'm going to just figure it out but so anyway um for what you get with mine 499 is very reasonable but i have a coupon code which is launch 200 which makes it 299 so i'm still running promotion yeah and they get the coaching group included with that as well.

Oh, great. Yeah, that's very reasonable. Yeah, so if someone's interested in getting into content creation, definitely check that out. That's awesome. Yeah, I mean, you don't do any appearances or anything yet? No, I haven't done anything like that. When I was in my corporate job, it made it a little bit difficult because they didn't know what I did. We did not discuss it. Several people did find out and come to me and say, hey, is this you? HR never came to me and my boss never came to me. But I know for a fact that there were a lot of people at my company who, who didn't know.

So I have to be careful for that reason or had to be careful for that reason, but I haven't really done appearances or anything like that. I wouldn't be opposed to it, but it's not something I've gotten into yet. Yeah. I want to extend an invitation to you. I don't know if I sent you the link. We have a uh, it's basically geared towards the swinging community. It's a digital publication. If you'd be ever interested in writing an article or something, I'd love to have it, you know, put it in the magazine. I'd love to. Thank you. Yeah. So, um, yeah.

And here's the plug for that 50shadesofpleasure.com. So check that out. All right. It's, um, you know, it's a swinger based magazine, magazine but it's got you know sex articles obviously so it relates to everything we're talking about well there's even one article about uh switching to only fans yeah yeah so well how swingers are going more towards creating content because like i said like we're already doing it you know and most of them have cameras anyway yeah it's one group of people that likes to videotape what they're doing. Oh, gosh, no doubt. That's so much fun. Yeah, it is. I love it.

So, but again, I can't thank you enough, Ray, for coming in and talking to us. It's been a real pleasure.

It's been an eye-opener for some stuff with some of the things we've been've been through and might have to check out your course yeah seriously we could definitely have our little hobby make more money that would be great that would be you know something to look for i just you know tweak things because we have a ton of content you know i think i have up over almost 300 videos on maybe 200 and something on only fan so it's not like we don't have content i have a lot of it and we're always we're always shooting you know different you know i try to do something different every time i just like i look at my stuff and i feel like it's the same so i don't know i mean i actually i appreciate you guys so much having me and I would love that I would love to talk to you guys about that I actually am always looking for new ways to to spice up my content I just ordered a stripper pole today in a foot machine so I haven't had it till now I'm gonna go take some pole dance lessons so I'm gonna do some some pole content which is something I'm really excited about because I've always really respected that talent so yeah those girls are talented I was I was I could swing around the pole hang upside down and do a couple little things little tricks We'll see.

Short-term memory's gone. Current memory's gone. Current memory? But, yeah, so check out Ray's site, which is rayrichmond, R-A-E, Richmond. You have this stuff there. Dot com dot com and definitely i started following her the other day on cool on instagram very very sexy pictures thank you yeah i good thing my my phone's waterproof i was licking the hell out of the screen oh my goodness that's funny well you I should definitely come over to OnlyFans then. That's funny. So, yeah. Um, but, uh, I can't thank you enough. And again, feel free to, you know, you have our contact information now.

Um, and, uh, you know, we'll, you know, anytime you want to come back on and chat with us about something or just chat in general, love to have you on again. Awesome. Thank you guys so much. I enjoyed it. So yeah, thanks for being here. All right. Well, we're going to end the show now so that you can stay on and we'll talk after we stop recording here. So again, I want to thank everyone. You can reach out to us at info at hotwifepodcast.com. Check out where Donna is at hotwifedonnalyn.com. All the stuff is there. All the people I'm doing. Don't forget Ray Richmond.

Don't forget rayrichmond.com. Is.com all the stuff is there all the people i'm doing don't forget ray richmond don't forget ray richmond.com is.com don't forget the creators success course.net i really should put my glasses on i know so anyway again thank you ray and we'll talk to you all later all right have a great night everybody bye everybody And we'll talk to you all later. All right. Have a great night, everybody. Bye. Bye, everybody.