Proper Length of Sex

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Hi, this is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wife Podcast, where we discuss all the good, the bad, and the really erotic of the swinger lifestyle. Hello, everybody. This is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wife Podcast. I am here again with my wonderful wonderful husband vince and we also have a very close friend mickey on the line mickey are you there are you there uh oh oh there she is oh slight delay sorry so yeah that's fine so she is there i was i was worried for a second. Yeah. And how is a wonderful Mickey tonight? Doing really good. Doing really good. Okay.

So I came up with the concept for tonight's show because you and Donna both have different aspects for this. So the concept for tonight's show is what is the ideal length of sex? So, I mean, like, okay. And there's no right or wrong. There's like just what you prefer.

So if you're with a playmate what do you feel is the ideal amount of time that you want to be playing before all of a sudden you go like okay just come let's get this over with yeah should i start sure somebody should yeah okay that sounds good um you know i'm like okay i have a choice with two comp champs right well but that well that's another part of the aspect too is okay what's your ideal one and then what do you generally deal with that's true i think when i was younger it was you know you're it's all hot and heavy and it's a flurry of sex and you know wham bam but you know Thank you.

when i was younger it was you know you're it's it's all hot and heavy and it's a flurry of sex and you know wham bam but you know how old was i 14 15 16 i wasn't there yeah my my partner was probably a little older than me but you know it was like a 10 15 years sometimes yes sometimes yes i had i did have one partner who was like 17 years older than me but that's neither here nor there but i've been in other other times well like last summer we shot with that one gentleman it was eight hours you remember that we're at the pool we're up and down it wasn't one session no no but i'm talking one session let's talk one session um i for me it's Eight hours is Mickey's just warm.

Yeah, we're just worried up. I'm talking one session. Let's talk one session. For me, it's like... Eight hours is Mickey's just warming up. Yeah, he just warming up. I'm like the half hour. That's his foreplay. I'm like 20 minutes, half hour. By then, I've already come five or six times. I'm, you know, I've sucked so much dick. My mouth is, you know, certainly suction. Well, I have an expansion onto that for you. Okay, yeah. So you're saying 20 minutes. Yeah, 20 minutes. Let's call it 20 minutes. 20 minutes. Is your ideal session. Yeah, that's pretty ideal.

So, Nikki, what would you say is your ideal session for, like, first round? First round, and somebody who I don't sleep often. So let's say it's more exciting, 45 minutes to an hour, hands down, because, you know, it's not routine. And I think that is the key here where it's exciting, right? Your body's responding and Thank you. That is the key here where it's exciting, right? Your body's responding and it's a newness and you're trying new things with a new person and you just have more drive.

But even if it's not a new person, do you find – now, I think once you're – correct me if I'm wrong because i usually am um if it's someone you're routine with if it's someone who's a regular okay all of a sudden you're not going to as a male you're not going to come as fast when it's someone you're more comfortable with am i wrong that's true so all of a sudden now someone like for you Donna that is let's say a 20 minute guy and someone for for Mickey who's a 45 minute guy all of a sudden Donna you move up to a 45 minute guy and Mickey moves up to an hour and 10 minute guy and yeah i mean i'm just saying is so i guess my the the concept of the of the topic is at what point okay you've you've done every position that you can think of in that time frame and at what point it's like dear god just come please okay i'm.

Okay. I'm done. I've come a few times. Just, I need you to come so I can, my hips hurt, my back hurts. I just want to go to sleep now. I've come so much. Okay. You know, just get your load off so we can finish this. Yeah. So sometimes like, you know, the enjoyment is really in the process maybe not the goal right so it's like um what um edging right so it's like all of the edging or all of the foreplay that creates the excitement and yes the final goal is wonderful the climaxing is wonderful everything, you know, up until that point is so well worth it and you don't want it to end.

So yeah, I'm going to stick with my 45 minutes to an hour. Okay. It's not a wrong answer. No, no. There's no wrong or right answer. It's just what works. But so, I mean, again, you're still 41. You're not, like Donna's 62. So your body is a little different. Yeah, younger I could do it a little longer. Now it's like. Yeah. But again, well, hang on. I have a lot more. Go ahead. I have a lot more droughts than Donna. Okay, let's back up a little bit. So I will speak from my experience. Okay, so I was a person, again, this is going to be according to the, I'll use the term lover, okay?

So I'd be a person that I'd be fine with, you know, we'd be fucking for a little bit or a while, whatever. And then I would stop and pull out and then maybe start giving you oral again, getting you fired up or maybe making you come that way and then putting my dick back in. And again, prolonging the whole process. You know, so making the process a little more exciting. Like elongating. Yeah. Elongating or adding some different elements. Maybe that's the word I want, the phrasing I want to use that makes it a little more fun than just like, you know, and we've seen it.

Donna and I have seen guys that come over and they're happy just to go into the, what I affectionately call turtle sex, the missionary where they just like hump over top of her on top and it's, you know, just like when a pump away is just like okay it's like well that's boring as shit um yeah but that's but that's my opinion that's my opinion that's only it's all that even trying to like mix it up it's like have i been on top no i i can't i that doesn't work for I'm like, well, this being smothered by your fucking armpits doesn't fucking work for me either.

Now you want to wear deodorant, too, don't you? Yeah, deodorant, too. Well, because I'm so little. Stop dripping sweat all over me. Jesus Christ. It's raining. Your big belly is crushing my lungs. I'm sorry. Jenny Craig, that's all I'm going to say. It's like, wow, you know. The better, the better. So, I mean, what's next? You're going to sit there and go, like, oh, you should not smoke cigars before you kiss me? What are you trying to tell me? Oh, I wasn't talking about you, dear. Oh, I didn't think so. Just checking. Just checking. But no. Everybody else.

Yeah, everybody but you that smokes cigars. Right, exactly. But anyway, no, again, it's all relevant to what the performance, I use that word loosely, would be.

I mean, you have had guys that i can't speak to mickey's experiences i haven't witnessed that many of them um but for donna you know guys that they all have a different game yes yeah they do they all have a different rhythm they have a different uh like some are more acrobatic than others some are a lot more acrobatic than others you know i don't know that's always fun i don't know how else to put it um yeah so they get in different positions they try different things so you know get in different positions for like for anal like get up on their legs on their feet a whole different perspective with that.

And you put your strap on and fuck them? No, they... Oh, giving you anal? Yes. Oh, oh, never mind. I was thinking of something else. Okay. I have not pegged anybody yet. No, they haven't. I'm waiting. I sleep at night with a butt plug in just to make sure. I thought you were getting ready for anal.

I thought you were preppingpping i'm just leaving my options open pre-gaming here just you know hey i'm here to please in the middle of the night when i'm sleeping i hear you it's like oh what's she doing jesus christ oh my god stop it i gotta to get lucky tonight um so anyway but um so but so in in longevity you let me correct me if i'm wrong donna you prefer in in general you prefer to be riding on top because that gives you the most pleasure it gives me this pleasure i'm also really tiny so if i'm underneath somebody i'm getting lost i'm getting lost in you know flesh exactly it's like they're on top of me and i've got signal flare i got a belly button i got a belly button where my mouth is it's like dude this is like i can't kiss you you're up there you're like two feet ahead of me you know i can't so if i'm on top i have a lot more control i can control what hole it goes into i can breathe hello breathing's important here you know i can i can rub my his dick on my clit i i like being in control in that aspect i don't mind being on the bottom but visually it's not as appealing it might feel good but so if you're going to have sex for any length of time it'd be your preference is to be on top hell yeah okay mickey Thank you.

so if you're going to have sex for any length of time it'd be your preference is to be on top hell yeah okay mickey what so if what is what's your favorite position i'm taking notes hold on let me get my pen right my pen's working okay my head's working go ahead so um legs in front so the man you know man on his knees um i'm on my back my legs are straight up you know he's probably critiquing my my pedicure or something like that um yeah is that enough so it's missionary it's missionary but again so it's not the turtle sex not where he's leaning over necessarily like again and there's nothing wrong with the turtle sex because like in the missionary I like doing missionary where you're kissing and stuff which is erotic if it lines up if things line up yeah well you and I like I said there's another but the thing is again Donna you're the same way that Thank you.

up if things line up yeah well you and i like i said there's another but the thing is again donna you're the same way that okay mickey do you like your feet being uh any attention to your feet during sex oh i don't mind but i guess my experience is that like there was a mirror you, like, got his head against my legs and thrusting me. And so that picture looks hot, too, right? And it's just, like, another kind of climax.

So I love the turtle sex because it's more up front and on you know the top of my clit so i love that it's really hard to decide like i love it all you know how i am i love it all like the thing is like with the missionary position just in a mirror yeah well you like You like to watch. You're a voyeur, correct? I do. I like to watch authors. Yeah.

yeah well you like you like to watch you're you're a voyeur correct yeah well yeah and and hopefully we're going to get you shooting there but hopefully just for hopefully some news for people very soon we might be able to get you you shooting some video so you cannot only watch yourself but others can watch you which is erotic as shit. Yes, that's erotic. The thing is, Mr. L. What was that? Mr. L. Mr. L. Okay, Mr. L. Yeah, my playmate. Yeah. My fun playmate. Oh, yeah, okay. I'm sorry, Mr. L. I had to put the two and two together. Yeah, yeah.

And But during like the missionary position to sit for the man to sit upright and then either A, maybe put a toy on your clit while he's fucking you. I've always found out to be very successful. Or two, while he's fucking you that way, sitting upright. And then I'm not a foot fetish guy but i like i know donna likes it like where you rub her feet or like i'll like suck her toes or whatever it's more for it's not an arousal for me it's an arousal because it's arousing for you yeah god i love that or i'd like you nibble on the inside of your instep. Yes. I'm getting chills. Yes, she is.

You're squirming. You should see this. God, it's like, yeah, that's nice. Okay, we have to end the show. I have to go upstairs. Thank you. We're leaving. Bye. Bye. No, I'm sorry. Donna! But, um... But, um, no, it's, you know what? You're breaking up. I was going to say, it really drives me crazy. Like nibbling on the inside of my thigh. Like sometimes less is more because it's that whole. Well, it's like. Now you and I have gotten to play a couple times, and both times, in all fairness, have not been in the most comfortable positions. One was on the kitchen table. One was on the pool deck.

Yeah, not comfortable at all.

The thing is, if I was actually given the opportunity, and Donna will back me up on this, if we were like, let's pretend, let's call a comfortable place a bed bed let's call it might be i don't know it might be the air mattress by the pool well like well the bed would be a lot better but donna will tell you i'd like to sit there and tease a lot where i nibble on the inside of your thigh and like um like just above your slit like just kind of like suck on it as she squirms i'm having fun watching her like just like suck like just above the slit of your pussy right and everything else and just i i love licking like teasing that, all those areas without touching your inner lips or your clit and wait till the woman's like, please lick my clit, please lick my clit.

You just kind of grab your head and like, get in there, damn it, enough is enough. Or watch a woman gyrate trying to move it. So, yeah, so you have to lick it, yeah. Yeah, so, and then, you know, making that thing swell. I love when a woman's pussy swells enough that it's kissing you back. Oh, yeah. It's hot. Oh, it is. It's great. It is hot, yes.

Or when a woman is begging you or grabbing your hair or your ears and trying to steer your face into where she wants you to lick that's hot that is hot the same as like when you're fucking a woman and she's like grabbing your hips hips and like pulling you in like fuck the shit out of it's like yeah now we're talking now we're talking yeah so okay good thing i'm sitting down we need a break. What's going on underneath that desk, dear? Yeah, the tease is definitely, I know this has something to do with length, but I love the tease before you actually penetrate it. And we've talked about that.

I mean, honestly, foreplay. This goes. Go ahead. This goes back to, you know, longevity and like why seven might be great for some people at 20 minutes and why, you know, it might be great for some people at an hour. Because, you know, I mean, work like it's so important and you can keep edging or you know keep it exciting breaks chance positions and it kind of like you know how do you feel if you had like a long exhausted day you kind of want to point but if you have a lot of energy and or feeling creative, it might be an hour-long session. Well, here's the age-old question.

Is it quantity or quality? True. If you had a choice of an hour or 20 minutes of quality, what would you rather have? if you had 20 minutes of the most intense feelings and everything else versus an hour of just fucking like if i could make you come intensely the same amount in 20 minutes versus an hour, the same amount of pleasure. Would you rather have the 20 minutes or the one hour? There's no right or wrong answer. I want an hour. What do you say, Don? Depends on the intensity of the orgasms. So I'll go the shorter because sometimes the orgasms are Thank you.

intensity of the orgasms so i'll go shorter because i mean it sometimes it he the orgasms are so intense i get from vince now they've changed over the year i'm not saying me i'm saying in general i'm saying in general don't know yeah but you know i'm not promoting myself that comes later in the show later in the show yeah i'd go with a little little shorter see here's my concept is roller coasters are all of like two minutes it's an intense ride for two minutes okay you get a lot of excitement and joy or whatever two minutes if they made if they made a roller coaster last for two hours is is it, if you get the same amount of thing, is it as exciting and as enjoyable because it lasted an hour?

Good question. Or is it more exciting because it's a rush? I mean, it's like doing whippets out of a whipped cream can. It's something that lasts for, what, two? Five minutes? If that. If that. Okay. But versus someone, okay, you drop acid. And you know so much about acid, I know. Well, I did, but it was sulfuric and it was a long kind of acid. It was a long kind of acid. It explains the hole in your tongue. Very painful.

But the thing is, it's like, okay, if you got the same amount of pleasure do you want it in a intense short amount which could potentially be more exciting than drug out everybody's different everybody likes something different if you believe if you believe that you can obtain the same amount of pleasure, I just don't even believe that because, you know, I want to, like, absorb your pheromones, okay? I want to... There's no right or wrong answer. It's a personal preference. It's like, do you want vanilla ice cream to be very vanilla-y or do you just want it to be vanilla?

You know, how much vanilla do you want? If you're going to get the same in an hour versus, let's say, let's say half an hour, okay, for simple math, you're still going to achieve six orgasms, okay, whether you're going to get it in 30 minutes or or one hour which would you rather have it i i don't think it really matters i think in half an hour it'd be more intense it would be but i mean it might take it might take 45 minutes to absorb all those pheromones from your partner yeah to have it like in your i don't i don't play with people who have pheromones.

You know, it might take time to, you know, really meld with the other partner. And that's fine. Like I said, there's no right or wrong answer. I'm not going to come down on either one of you. I'm just posing a question. Well, my favorite partner. Thank you. I mean, besides you. My favorite plane.

I'm not buying the uh besides you it wasn't like warming besides you come on okay sure it's not all about you vince whoa this is the hot husband podcast the trophy husband podcast right mickey right that's right that's right No, I mean, my favorite playmate me if you look at the videos i've done with them are all on the shorter side well not that short but yeah and the last one was nine minutes that's who mickey is talking about yeah she's going to hopefully be playing with soon is mr l well maybe because that's when Greg, he shot the last one. It was nine minutes long.

My gimbal is coming in tomorrow. Nine minutes. So he might have edited out a lot of stuff. I have no idea how long it was in raw. In raw, it might have. The finished video was a little over eight minutes. The raw footage would probably have been 11 minutes. See? But again, as a man, in all fairness, I think I'm a man. You think you... And, again, I feel safe in saying this. Both you and Mickey, and what's her name? Even Angelina. Angelina's a whole other story. Yeah, leave that one off. It's like, as a man, to be able to play with either one of you.

In this case, either one of you, I feel kind of weird using the word play. Right, whatever. Anyway, I'm going to use it. Yeah.

To achieve 10 10 to 15 minutes you both are incredibly gorgeous women and for a man if i can last 15 minutes i'm like fuck yeah i fucking nailed it you know you guys were like i was wanting more it's like i gave you all i got you know it's 15 minutes is all i got it's it's exciting you guys are gorgeous you you both are stunning women um in and outside the bedroom in all fairness i know both of you very well more than most people do and um you both are incredibly sexy women both your bodies are you know anyway i'm just gonna buy them sitting down um bad commercial somebody paying you unfortunately i wish they were um but no it's see that's the aspect women don't get i'm going to put a plug in for men here that, you know, men, that's the aspect women don't get.

I'm going to put a plug in for men here. That, you know, men, we sit there and we sit, we are, we look at someone like the two of you and like, oh my God, they're gorgeous. And we're, if we can last 15 minutes, we're like, fuck yeah, nailed it. You guys are like, 15 minutes, that's all? It's like, no, you don't understand the excitement level.

Because you guys are like 15 minutes that's all it's like no you don't understand the excitement excitement because you both are gorgeous you both have talents yeah it's got to be hard to hold back if you're that excited well that's it that's what i'm saying your motor is running you know and you've redlined it man you're you're fucking tachometers you know you're going and it's just like yeah you're trying not to pop right off the line well that can ruin everything too we've had playmates that like i do want to come too fast and then they they well no they hold back and then can't come at all and that has happened at least five or six times to me recently sure recently and it's like oh that's just come i don't care yeah but i want to come too soon it was like well now you can't come at all that sucks for you that sucks for everybody and guys get embarrassed if they come too fast and again they're afraid like oh she's not going back because i i you know inside of two minutes came.

Instead of looking at it as a compliment. It's a compliment. In all honesty, if a guy comes that quick, it's a compliment. It's not an insult. I'd be pissed. Well, yeah, and I understand that. But you have to look at it, Mickey, from the aspect of if a guy is that turned on by you, that he can pop that quickly, that tells you how turned on he is about you. Yep. Thank you. Thank how turned on he is about you. Yeah. It is a compliment. For a woman, you just have to, what was that? He didn't prepare. He should have played the night before. He should have masturbated the night before.

Well, sometimes that backfires too. Then they can't come at all because they've done that yep they don't have a good guys who jerk off an hour or two before they get here and then all of a sudden they can't come at all yeah and then they have a hard time even keeping it hard yeah see that there's a fine line there's it there's a here's the art it's an art form well here's the part that women don't get is that we don't technically have control over it um I'll see you next time. It's an art form. Well, here's the part that women don't get is that we don't technically have control over it.

We have to be there. We have to perform. We have to have something happen. You guys just have to show up. Yeah, we just have to. You could put lube on your pussy and you're ready to go. Right, right. You might not need lube, but we have to like have a lot of functions going on you know it's like okay we get hard but all of a sudden now it's like okay i came earlier i'm not coming right right away right right and then all of a sudden it's like okay i'm going for an hour all of a sudden the mental game drops out of it so all of a sudden sudden it's like, okay, I'm starting to go soft now.

Right, right. I mean, have you had guys, Nikki, that you've played with that after a while, all of a sudden they have a hard time maintaining? Um, no, but I've had guys that couldn't come? You know, you're there, you can stop. Yeah, well, it's one of those things, too, because, again, I think for the man, some of the aspect is the mental game.

And, again, you start getting, like, you're fucking and they're excited they're trying to keep from coming too soon but then all of a sudden you're edging so to speak but then all of a sudden the edge disappears but not in a good way it goes the other way it's like all of a sudden it's like and and again i i can't speak to your game but and i've talked to donna it's like sometimes that's when the meant the um um the audible game comes in where you have to talk dirty yeah like oh my god i want you to yeah i want you to i can't i want to feel your cum inside of me blah all that shit um because it it is it's again all of a sudden the guy he's pumping away for 35 minutes he's like oh my god i'm starting to lose sensation and everything else and all of a sudden it's like oh my god she's going to be disappointed oh my god i'm a loser oh my god she's never gonna want to see me again and that doesn't helps nope all of a sudden it's like well can i cut your lawn for you you know it's like i gotta do something to make her happy so yeah that would make me happy would it so we cut my lawn sure yeah well you pay a guy 20 that's when it makes me happy um so it's women aren't aware of how much more is involved i think on the men's end and again we would love to sit there and just go okay what do you expect well i want one hour of sex okay at one hour what do you want i want a big cum look okay where do you want it let me just i'm gonna dial this shit in you know i have the app i'll push it an app yeah a sex app yeah but uh it's you know it's um so but and again women have to own that they have their own part of it oh absolutely you know the verbal part you know you got to talk the sex game up you know you have to tell the guy you're like oh my god i want this i you know my god this feels like this or whatever well if you don't let them know what you want you're never going to get it that's my contention you have to tell your partner what you need and want.

Otherwise, you're going to be dissatisfied. Yeah, Donna's like, I need you to take my car and get it washed. Yes, baby. I need you to vacuum my car. Oh, my God. You are such a good lover. Trim those fucking hedges in front of the house. Oh, that's what I need, baby. I'm sopping wet now. I'm so wet right now. Honey, I want to fuck you right now. It's like, oh, my God. Fix the fence around the pool. Yeah, fix my fence. Sick motherfucker. Here's my question with edging. Sometimes I feel like if I edge too long, I lose steam, and then I have a hard time coming. Okay.

Do you edge at like too much mickey do you edge yeah and it can be too much teasing absolutely okay see i don't edge because like for me um again i am so jaded across the board because i've seen so much and been exposed so much. I'm not buying this. I'm not buying this. No, it is. It's all mental. Yeah, I'm not going to argue that. No, seriously. Again, if I'm not 110, again, 99% of the time I play, it's with you, correct? Correct. 99.9% I play with you, right? Yeah, we need to get more playmates for you. In that case, you're going through a shoulder issue.

Yeah, like I can't do my gymnastics now. Well, you possibly need a shoulder replacement, whatever.

But anyway, so I'm sitting there with you thinking okay okay she's in pain oh god whatever it's not about me it's about you about time you realize that but no i i'm cognitive of my partner's uh comfort comfort level pleasure okay so like you know again quick reflect back you know last time mickey and i played was down in the pool she's laying on the concrete deck i'm aware that wasn't that comfortable yeah that's not you know not comfortable at all so you know i achieved some level of success there.

But it's just like, you know, there could be so much more fun, whether it be you or whoever, if it's not the ideal condition. And so that's why I don't require anything for me because I'm like, I'm not laying on a concrete deck.

That's going to hurt my back you know no you got that right you know or or whatever right you know it's just like i i don't require my pleasure as much as i require something for my partner's pleasure so it's you're so selfless it's it's just yours well because again if if let's say donna you and i are playing down in the pool okay and i'm on the deck and and everything else my back's gonna hurt i'm not oh yeah you're not gonna be happy with the back pain i have with my back injuries and stuff it's yeah there's gonna be a lot of issues going on there yeah getting older and being like adventurous with sex is definitely a challenge yeah but so it's um where's i going with this well you're more you're you're more concerned about your yeah edging i don't have to edge it just my body does it naturally because i'm too cognitive i can't circumvent the circumstances and just go with pure like what's going on.

And then just release and have an orgasm. It stays at a plateau. And a lot of guys feel that. I'm sure of that for the fact of... Oh, I didn't know that. What's that? I'm edging and I'm going to rape whoever's in front of me afterwards. Like, it's gone. It's just done. Oh, God bless them. Does that make sense? It just takes you, like, edging takes me somewhere else. So it makes me aggressive, and I'm going to, you know, get rid of it, I guess. But you're also 41. You're not in your late 50s or early 60s. So your body has. Okay, but then that's fine.

But then maybe if you're older, then you would, like, ask, demand, right? Well, the thing is, it becomes a little more crucial to your location. Whether it's verbally or I'm going to jump on your face. Yeah, well, spontaneity, unfortunately, as you get older, becomes more difficult. Does that make sense? Yep. Backseat of the car used to be a great place to fuck. Nope, not now.

Nope, you'll all be in in traction y'all be in traction if you have sex in the backseat of any car i don't care if it's a station wagon or not or a van yeah it's not happening well maybe a van will be okay but you know we full-size van not a minivan not a minivan well yeah yeah but um so what about spanking you guys like spanking i personally don't I like flogging more than spanking okay spanking. You guys like spanking? I personally don't. Donan does. I like flogging more than spanking. Okay. You've not been flogged yet, have you, Mickey? By a professional.

Not by just somebody who bought something from Amazon. I mean, a professional trained flogger. I was at a swingers club, and they were over two years active. I was a flog away. Flog me. Yeah. Well, Mickey. And I was just okay with it. It didn't do anything for me, but I love a nice spanking with a hand. Mickey, would you be interested? We have this couple out of, where we go to this house parties.

If, like, last year for Donna's birthday party, I set up for um the guy well actually before her birthday party yeah set up a training session where this guy is a a passionate dom he's not like you're not going to get hurt or anything else but he would paddle you he would flog you he would basically teach you the the entry level of the BDSM world? Would that be something you'd be interested in? I don't really need to know about it. I would probably like it, but I don't really need to know. Does that make sense? Like, I want to be dominated. I don't want to learn. Oh, you have to.

You have to learn to appreciate it. What I'm saying is, we could set up a session where we would take you up there Here we go.

i don't want to learn well you have to you have to learn to appreciate it what i'm saying is we could set up a session where i we would take you up there introduce you and he would and he's going to introduce you into that where you would be lightly dominated lightly dominated is correct terminology the training that he's talking about isn't training as like you know like a you're not a seminar no he we they figure out what your threshold of pain pleasure is introduce you to he's going to see what you he's going to let you learn what you like or don't like about it and he's going to tell you like this is green this is yellow this is red and so as he might do something to you you go oh that's green that's good yellow it's good.

Yellow, it's like, okay, that's comfortable but almost uncomfortable. And if he goes a little too far, you go red, and he stops. He doesn't do that ever again. And again, that's— All of the lights take away the fun for me. I know it's safe. I get it.

But when it's not organic, I'm like, uh— Well, but he doesn't know what's organic to when it's not organic I'm like well but he doesn't know what's organic to you until you tell him the signal of the lights tell him how hard he can flog or paddle you it's not a matter of he just takes control what level of pressure so other than it's like you have to see like what level of pressure, so to speak, is comfortable for you. Because there's different, everyone's different. Like I'm not into the whole BDSM thing, but I have a very high threshold of pain.

So for me, someone, if I was into that, he'd be hitting me pretty fucking hard. But, you know, again, what Donna likes and what you might like are two different things. But he needs to know so he doesn't push the boundaries to make it uncomfortable for you. I know. It's a situation like where I've been spanked.

And, you know, they spank me then say you know I might say like harder and then they do it a little bit harder and then they check in with you it's more organic it's not you can work with that would that be something you'd be interested we can maybe set up for you and take you up there uh i'll have to i have to investigate well where we can actually we can have him come down here we could do it here so she doesn't travel all the way up there yeah that's true but you know i don't like playing if i'm not gonna get cock bottom line oh he'll fuck you he'll fuck you He's got a nice cock the next house party we're going to in september he's he's been texting me because the last few house parties he hasn't played with donna and he's like i need to fuck donna again so but you know he's for an older guy he's early 60s yeah he's probably a good body good body good shape and nice cock and everything else and he's very he's got what you like he's gonna be a little more um i'll use the term forceful he's definitely dominant yeah but he's not gonna hurt you he's not gonna like yeah he's's going to pull your hair he's going to he's a loving dom yeah he really is you i think he would love him not love him he would like him yeah he's very very even outside of the sex world him and he and his wife are great great people his wife likes me she just likes to sit on your face it works she likes her conversation when it's between her legs keep talking bitch 46 orgasms or whatever it was no it was 56 I didn't count apparently she did no know, if you're interested, we can make that happen.

That'd be, that was the one that I called last year for Donna's birthday. And he had him and two other Doms took care of Donna for her birthday. That was awesome. It was amazing. I remember those pictures. And they could do whatever they, I was blindfolded and they could do whatever they wanted to do to me. Because they were already, I've already gone through the quote training. And they're very respectful. And very, not any, not pushing really any boundaries. The only thing I found uncomfortable was when I got like the electrodes. Yeah. But you could have said, no, don't. Oh, I did.

I just wish it was like less.

And he's like, it's as low as it can as low as it can go i'm like ah sorry it's just i felt like i was being electrocuted it wasn't you know but other wands have been fine with me so you know apparently i like being electrocuted by different wands but that one was just yeah whatever it was it was too much but um no maybe if you know we'll talk more off air about this and you know i think it'd be an erotic little even photo shoot to see mickey being kind of introduced to the whole onto the power exchange because mickey is a very type a personality yeah i don't know maybe fun being on the St.

Andrew's cross seeing her kind of release power to what someone else kind of take control of her might be kind of erotic yeah that was fun I mean I would love to see her I would love to see her on a St. Andrew's cross being you know kind of what's the word I want to use controlled dominated I'll see use her name. But when she was on the cross with her as her first, she was amazed, like, oh, I go broke. Oh, yeah. I can't use her name. Yeah. But, like, when she was on the cross with her husband doing it, she was, like, gushing all over the cross. Oh, was she? Oh, yeah.

They had to put towels down. Oh, okay. All righty then. I had to put towels down on the bed with her. Yeah, there's, that's always happening. Yeah, but it's something I do. But, yeah. So, back to the original topic. Of length? Well. Length of time, I meant. Yeah, length of time. So, but, you know, so your ideal length of time, Mickey, is like an hour. Yes. Okay. And you can go for two hours, technically, you were saying, I think, one time. Well, I don't know, two hours. Maybe like an hour and a half is like really probably my next. Okay.

And that's because maybe you've had a bunch of orgasms at that point and you're kind of... Trained trained you were out for a month before that and like you got to get it in whenever you can um yeah it makes sense how often could you do you know i'm sorry how often can you do sessions like that so if you had your way how much okay let's say hour and a half sessions how many hour and a half sessions could you do a day We'll be right back. Do sessions like that. So if you had your way, how much, okay, let's say hour and a half sessions. How many hour and a half sessions could you do a day?

Probably one a day. Just one a day? Oh, no, I've done two. No, I have not. I've done two, yeah. Okay. But not day after day. Okay. You know. So, I mean, so your ideal, your ideal day would be an hour and a half a day you know the issue is yes so the issue is like once you you know you can go on like a sabbatical what have you on the leave um from sex not that you want to do that but then once i have sex i want more and i want more and then a couple hours later okay but then once I have sex, I want more and I want more. And then a couple hours later. Okay.

So, um, so what's the longest you want to do? You really ideally want to go without sex. What would be the minimum you could do without sex? Um, how much one day a day 24 hours one day 24 hours i somehow in my headphones i thought i heard three or four hours wait a minute three or four hours no it's like going to the gym you know it feels good it's like work workout. It should be part of everybody's gym. Okay. What's the ideal time of day? Morning, afternoon, or night? I don't know. I feel like I'm very, wake up, I'm like marinated and juicy. So I think the morning is great, too.

The morning is great. So if you got it in the morning, you could probably do an afternoon session, right? Yeah, yeah. You know, if you wake up and, like, you get your husband, your partner, whoever they are, head while they're sleeping, just wake them up that way. It's the best gift. do you want to sleep over just saying yeah we could have a friendly sleepover yeah oh there we go donnie the couch is open there's a spare bedroom yeah i'm not you know everybody knows you know you start the day off right you're like hey why am i knows, you know, you start to get off right.

You're like, hey, why am I so happy? You know, you got to start to get off right. That's true. So, okay. So Donna. I'm definitely afternoon and evening. Yeah. I know you're afternoon and evening. Yeah, absolutely. Only because. How often would you like to have sex? I'm really happy. Taking that a tote on. Like every, like every other day would be great.

Give me that,her because i still have a life i still have to do things so we didn't have sex yesterday so tonight would be it okay end of the show thank you what are you doing stop fucking stop pushing buttons asshole i got excited i'm sorry jesus christ i'm sorry it's like shit gotta go so yeah give me a you know a breather because if i have an orgasm i want to sleep afterwards i'm just it takes so much out of me every orgasm the one yeah the ones that you fucking give me yes other ones no not so much i can do them all day long but the ones that you give me the ones that like my head caves in no i can't fucking move after that i cannot fucking move there's no way it's gotten worse i mean back in the day i could have like 20 30 40 orgas, but they weren't like the ones I have now.

Now they're like the nuclear explosion orgasm where it's like, Jesus Christ, now you want me to do something when I'm done? Are you kidding me? I couldn't go to work. There's no way. I can't even think straight. I'm like in this fog. You know what? It sounds like you're yelling at me for making me cum so hard. Stop making me cum so fucking hard. Stop it. I'm sorry it's like afternoon, evening is even better. That's why I seek the affection of other women. I can go to sleep afterwards because it's just such a hard orgasm. It's so strong.

I'm still trying to figure out, you know, Mickey said a lot of women have said jackhammer. Jackhammer. Mickey said propeller. I don't get the circular motion. I get a back and forth motion. I don't know what kind of propeller she's thinking about. That's fine. I mean, it's fast. No, it's all good. It's a compliment. It's faster. I'm just glad she didn't use the word rape. Yeah. Or disgusting. Rape would definitely be worse. Repulsive.

there's no way I could do that in the morning I would be a waste I wouldn't get anything done for the rest of the day it would be like day drinking you know if I day drink day drinking is bad but you used to work out in the morning like 5 in the morning right 3 right? Yeah. 3.30 in the morning. No, I got up at 3.30. But that's different than sex. That's way different than sex. Oh, okay. For me, it's way, way different. Yeah, I feel the same, right? Going to the gym? Okay. For me, it's the same feeling as going to the gym. I've got endorphins. I'm going to pump. I'm going to rock the day.

Let's go. Yeah, but I don't have orgasms at the gym that leave me literally weak in the knees. It's hard for me to get up to go pee because I lay there. I'm like, I've got to get up and pee. I don't know if I can. I don't know if I can get out of bed. Well, I feel like mush. Don't sit the bedpan. I'm just like mush. It's like, give me a minute here. I don't know how to turn down the orgasm like ever. You can't. You can't. It's on my end. And it's like they're so powerful that my whole body goes into, like, Richter. I mean, the whole everything is tense.

My toes curl and my whole body arches and I scream and yell.

The neighbors are complaining yeah they are complaining i'm sure stop having orgasms makes me look you're so toned it's you're so toned i don't know why like you're so strong and toned your ass is like yeah back in the day it was not so much now not so much now all right come on mickey's got an incredible incredible body oh my god yeah tight i'm still focused on those bikini bottoms yeah yeah two sizes too small that are just perfect no they're not two sizes too small they're perfect it's a perfect size it's perfect i think she should not wear like clothes she should just wear those or a thong yeah no a thong would be perfect a thong would be perfect i mean for a woman who's had you know numerous children mickey has i'd almost say perfect body pretty perfect body yeah i would say oh my.

I would say. I think she's getting embarrassed. Oh, wait. She just sent me a picture. Uh-oh. What? I can't. Where's my phone? God damn it. Oh, my God. I don't know where my phone is. Oh, there it is. Jesus Christ. She sent me here. Yeah. I did send you a picture. Let's see. I can't get to it fast enough. Hold. I can't get there fast. I got a picture of Big Bird. Oh, I got a bikini picture. Oh, there you go. Wow. Where did that bikini come from? That's it. Is that a thong bikini? I told you I couldn't fall in the bottom. Wow. No, it's like the other one. It's like Brazilian or something. Wow.

I'd so eat them off of you. Well, you get fiber somehow. Thank you. No, thank you. I also thank you. Made your night. In all fairness, she's dangerous. I mean, I love Donna to death. She's my everything and whatever. But again, Mickey is the, just like Donna, the total package. You're both incredible women that I am honored and humbled to know. Yeah, baby. I'm serious about shooting. It would be hot. Oh, my God. It would be fucking hot. The IRS is going to like, oh, my God, look how much money she's making. We need deductions. Mr. L did reach out to me as well. Oh, good. What was that? Mr.

L reached out to her, yes. Mr. L is a lot of fun. My camera thing is showing up tomorrow, so anytime L reached out to her, yes. Mr. L is a lot of fun. I enjoy him. My camera thing is showing up tomorrow, so anytime you guys want to shoot. No, she wanted Greg. Well, I can shoot the same thing. I just didn't have the toy he has. Yeah. I'll have it tomorrow. Yeah, whatever. Or Greg, I don't care. Either way. I don't care. I don't care about that. Yeah.

Well, you know, Greg and I can both shoot at the same time and then compare I'm sorry you broke up sure that won't be distracting you won't even know we're in the room you're going to be so fucking fucking going to town yeah I wasn't I look forward I am I'm gonna I want to see her ass ride up and down on a dick I mean be her pussy but she won't be doing anal but seeing that seeing her on top of a dick that is going to be one of the hottest things I've ever seen yeah it's definitely going to be pretty fucking hot for sure for sure yeah i just um i like his like reactions because he um he shows his spirit let's say right there's a really huge i had a personality like i can't wait to fucking dominate him and then you know let him whatever afterwards like like he could dominate me afterwards but I just really want to put it on him that makes sense well I think the two of you will the energy between the two of you will be something it's not gonna be a one session thing he can go two sessions I think the two of you will definitely uh make some pretty hot one part two oh it'll be part one part two three four yeah whatever yeah i'm i'm looking forward to it i always say the sequel is the first one but oh we'll try no i i i mean i want to see you ride his face i mean donna has fun riding his face i want to see you i mean he likes squirters i think you riding his face and squirting his mouth oh my god speaking for someone that you've done that to it's he is in for a treat you have got got the sweetest pussy.

You do. Thank you. Thank you. I'm just not like big on eating out is great, but it's not, you know, it's like foreplay for me. Well, it is. Yeah. But you require penetration right that's your thing yeah I love like skin to skin yeah so we have I you know again if once you you know buy into everything we have a couple there's a couple guys I would love to see you play with that Donna plays with Thank you. don't you, you know, um, buy into everything. We have a couple, there's a couple of guys I would love to see you play with that Donna plays with that, uh, I think would be erotic as shit.

Yeah, we have, um, we talk about the one guy and you kind of like, like, eh, it's kind of an interest. It's, I'm not going to get into it on air but it's something you haven't done yet and I think it'd be erotic as shit and again Donna comes so much on his cock and face if you're talking to the same person yes he plays my my fucking pussy like a violin he does and he does you come all over his cock i come all over his cock all over his face he just i don't know he's like so passionate and he's a good kisser he's a great kisser i mean so is mr l those Mr. L.

Those two are great on the same thing. Mr. L is number one. Mr. K is number two. So, you know, we can, you know, if Mickey is open to, you know. Different experiences. People that she trusts your lovers. Yeah, but this is just my, what I like. I'm just saying if she's open to trying your lovers right you know she could uh you know if you want somebody who's like abusive i can't help you there then we'll talk to fucking uh you know there's a couple yeah exactly she might have come here baby i want to hurt you. I'm going to call it. I want some abuse. I like fun abuse.

There's some ass slapping involved. That can be fun. That's fun. That's not a problem. Yeah. So I think, again, like we've talked about off air. I think there's some avenues that we can explore that will be within your realm that could heighten your levels of excitement. Or sexual experiences? Yeah, just let them know. Minimum requirement is 45 minutes. Yeah, Mr. K can definitely do that.

With your body and everything else, I can't for i really can't seriously no excitement level might be too high yeah yeah well you know what maybe not the first session but by the fifth session maybe or by the second i would say but some of these guys have more have stamina for more than one session so the first session might not be 45 minutes but you know we can maybe get you more than one session and again i think you're almost transitioning to as much as i know you're a voyeur which is erotic as shit watching you watching you, the faces you make, when I'm, like, when we're videotaping Donna playing and you're there, your facial expressions are so fucking erotic.

And I can see how turned on you are. Yeah, I'm in the trail. Those panties, I guarantee, are ruined. And I'm willing to pay for them that's a different story um but the um sorry i'm sitting down groggly um thankfully but um i think once you see the aspect like if you start shooting some stuff and you get the feedback from people watching you and you go from voyeur to exhibitionist, I think there's going to be a switch that flicks on you that you're going to be like. Hell yeah. Yeah. I mean, Donna, you can speak to it.

You've been an exhibitionist for a lot of years, as a dancer and everything else. And when you get to turn other, when you know people, a lot of people are getting turned on by it's a rush i mean it's a rush even angelina is going through that now she thinks she's fat which she's not and she's getting all these emails from people like oh my god it's so hot and she's like oh my god i got i gotta shoot more that there you go that's a rush yeah wow yeah she's i mean, it's turning her on.

She got a video from a guy who wanted a private video of her masturbating, watching a video of him masturbating to her. And she fucking came a ton doing that today when I shot her. Wow. So. It can be very lucrative well it's exciting it's fun but it's all could be lucrative and again it's it's all pleasure it's not anyone no one's getting hurt no one's getting hurt unless you want that unless you hurt but um you know that's extra you know and again so it's um but um yeah i forgot where i'm at Thank you.

But, um, you know, that's extra, you know, and again, so it's, um, but, um, yeah, I forgot where I'm at. Brain fart, dear. I got too much pussy in my brain. I have your pussy. I have, uh, Angelina's pussy. I have, I have Mickey's pussy. I'm like, you know, I got, I am, I'm living the dream.

I was talking to Steven, texting Steven todayven today oh dear and he again started iterating he's like you live the life that every man wants he says you're surrounded by beautiful women that are having sex around you or with you and everything else he says he says and your wife is you're not hiding anything your wife and accepting. And he says, you are the envy of every man. So when's he coming out? His abs keep getting tighter and tighter. He's going to call me tomorrow.

He actually had a day, the other day, apparently, I don't know the circumstances, but he had sex with two different women in two different couples in two different instances okay sounds interesting i want to know the backstory he's calling me tomorrow around you know two o'clock our time so i can't wait to get that phone call to find out so i i am his inspiration oh okay and we have jay who calls into. Yes. She has a friend, a younger friend who she's slicing an apple and he throws her up on the counter and fucks her from behind while she's slicing an apple. That could be dangerous.

That could be dangerous. Lord knows I love produce. I do too. It's a knife that bothers me. Put the knife down, dear. Well, it's not good, dear. Then you can fuck me. Yeah, I know. But, you know, we just had one of Mickey's cucumbers. Big, long cucumber. It's like, oh, is this meant for food or play? I was worried about that. She left her cucumbers and her carrots here. Yeah, is there something we should know? Fun with produce, maybe? Take them to shake. They weren't very girthy, though. The carrots were normal, but the cucumber was pretty big. It was like 18 inches long. It was long.

It was huge. It was Jesus Christ. That's why I had to cut them to little sections. I can't deal with these long ones. But, so anyway. But, yeah, no, it's, well, okay, I'm sitting down. It's a good thing you're sitting down. It's a good thing I'm behind the desk. But, so, anyway, so there's no right or wrong answer. There's what the, you know, again, as a man, you need to kind of find out somehow what your partner is expecting. Is she expecting 15, 20 minutes? Is she expecting an hour? So you can sit there and go, are you Donna or are you Mickey?

And if they don't know what that is, don't go with them. So, but, yeah, there's nowhere wrong. No, but everybody has a different... I mean, there's plenty of guys that wish they could last a Donna.

It's like two pump chumps and it's fine but again i think women need to look at that as a compliment yeah if a guy has that worked up we really can't control her as much as we we want to dial it in it's like i mean hang on yeah it's you know 15 minutes okay but yeah you can't do that you guys you know beautiful women like that and you get to have sex with them and you're kissing them and touching them and caressing them and foreplay and it's like man my gun is overloaded and i have a hair trigger hair trigger yeah i was just thinking that it's like it's going off i mean come on i mean like i said i've i'm blessed to be married to you you might not feel that way oh well you know but we all have our crosses to bear exactly but you know and again And then Mickey is gorgeous, you know, and again, it's like, Jesus Christ.

It's like, oh, my God, you know, and then there's, you know, and I've been blessed with other women that I sit there and like, I sit there and like, I have to pinch myself. Like, am i really doing this you are yeah for women you sit there again you don't have to perform you just have to be there you get to enjoy hopefully whatever yeah there's no yeah you just have to be there i hate to put it that way but yeah yeah you don't have to be hard or you don't have to like if a woman comes too quickly it's not a Thank you. Yeah, you just have to be there. I hate to put it that way, but yeah. Yeah.

You don't have to be hard. Or you don't have to, like, if a woman comes too quickly, it's not a problem. I can just come again. It's not a problem. No, we're not. You're lubricated. You're good. It's like, okay, I'm here. Okay. For men, we come, it's like, okay. Yeah, sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes. So, but. Party's over. Yeah. What was that? I said party's over. Sometimes. Sometimes. So, but. Party's over. Yeah. What was that? I said party's over. Sometimes. I've been with a half a dozen guys. Of course, they're all younger. Came and we already stay hard and keep going and came a second time.

So, yeah, it does happen, but it's. Yeah. They're usually in the younger range, like 30s and lower, 20s, 30s. All right. So, yeah. All right. Well, Mickey has to get going. She's texting me. Okay, no problem. So it's not a problem. And the show has been going for over an hour. Oh, shit. So nice talking to you. So, again, always great to have you. I'm glad you could call in. Wish you could have been here live. It's always more fun when someone's live. Yeah. But, um...

talking to you so again always great to have you i'm glad you could call in i wish you could have been here live it's always more fun when someone's live yeah but um so anyway thank everyone for listening and uh make you for calling in and we love you mick yeah we love you you know great friend thank you and uh we will thank everyone for listening and everybody have a great night All right. Thank you. And we will thank everyone for listening. And everybody, have a great night. All right. See you. See you guys. Bye.