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Donna discusses how guys online talk a great game about wantng to meet but flake out when the offer is made.Then she shares last Monday when she got to have 2 playdates. She invited two different gentleman over for some fun and got to really tease Vince as she had her fun in front of him.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/hot-wife-podcast-and-the-swinger-lifestyle--5343522/support. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Speaker1: Hi, this is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wife Podcast. Well, everybody, I am Donna Lynn, and I'm here with my wonderful husband, Vince. Howdy. I was going to have to start off with a band for the guy last time. Usually he's like, what? He's so wonderful. What did I do wrong? What did you do wrong? Oh, yeah, that could be, that's what I do. what did i do wrong my love you're gonna find out later what you did wrong what did i do wrong nothing to some people's opinion maybe this is stuff wrong not mine oh okay that's the hot wife podcast oh that's never wrong no but uh if that's wrong i don't want to be right multiple times in one day Oh, that's never wrong. And if that's wrong, I don't want to be right. We're wrong multiple times, apparently. Today we're going to talk about, first we're going to talk about how guys talk a great game, like online, where you're going to try to meet guys, and how they fall short of that. And then we're going to talk about you know today is wednesday okay right um and uh we're actually recording this now on the 9th so it'll be going up soon so we're talking about the 7th right that was a fun day we had you happen to have i had a play in the afternoon around one o'clock ish and then i had a second one at seven yeah now if i can get those two guys together that would be awesome that's okay i'll be fine with that i'm gonna have to get you some uh stuff with electrolytes in it i think I have a Pedialyte and all that. It's going to be a Gatorade. But, like, that would sound good. But we'll take the next one. Take the next one. stuff with electrolytes in it, I think. I have a Pedialyte. It's a good idea. Gatorade. But that's a lot more fun. So a topic that we've run into for a lot of years is, you know, we meet guys online through various sites and what have you, and they talk a great game these seven guys or some guys who pretend they're single that's what it is yeah and they talk this great game we go yeah i want to meet you i want to meet you and then once you get to the point of like okay here's a day and time and in a location crickets you hear nothing you get also or so it's I find it one annoying as shit right two apparently it happens apparently it does happen because we had a play date set up with one gentleman and I didn't get back in touch with him in time because I had i left my phone in the house because i was doing stuff outside he didn't want to get it broken whatever and i didn't get back with him to let him know that it was all cool and he said oh i made other plans i thought you ghosted me and i'm like that i ghosted you so that's a whole yeah that I heard ghosting you said it the other day. Yeah, that's what ghosting is. You just talk a good game, talk a good game, and then when the wheels have to hit the ass, you're done, you're gone. It's very interesting how he's got, you know, I guess maybe that's a fetish in itself, the experience where they want to get real close to potentially meeting or talking with a beautiful woman and, and then too shy. I mean, they're brave, you know, I mean, a lot of people hide behind the internet. Everybody, you know, you see it all the time with these trolls out there that you know give people shit but you know if it came to get nose-to-nose kind of a thing they're still in their mommy's basement yeah whatever i mean again but i am the guy who gets nose-to-nose with you so yeah sometimes not with you but with people i need to do that anyway so yeah it was this is one of those things like you know i guess you're just not mature enough to play the adult games like either i know i know what you're saying it's a or it's the excitement of having that like like um sexting and all that that kind of banter back and forth is is very arousing to them but i i could also be like you could be married yeah yeah but you also hear about um beautiful women talking about like they go to a bar like and, like, no one talks to them. Everybody's intimidated. So maybe these guys, well, maybe one, they think that maybe you aren't real. We've talked on the phone with some of these people. Some of them, yeah. So you've been able to hear your voice on the videos or whatever. Yeah, whatever, yeah. And I'm real, but maybe not that intimidating. Of course, then again, some guys aren't comfortable, like comfortable like well I'm going to have sex with you in front of your husband yeah some people are not okay with that but then they shouldn't give their life out don't take it that far you know but did I mention really annoying? Only a few times. Yeah, it's really annoying. So, but, yeah, so if you're one of the people that likes to play this fucking game, stop. Jesus. You look like he likes it. It's going to be fun carnage for you. Well, that's. And you're going to grow old and be living in your mom's basement for fucking ever at some point mom's not going to be there to make you a bowl of cereal oh my god that's terrible yeah I don't know why people do that you're 80% you hear and you're affected more than I am I don't care if guys don't like it that I'm going to be there or not. You know, one, we don't know. Yeah, exactly. Until we have that kind of relationship, you know, you're my most precious thing in the world to me. And, you know, I'm making sure these guys behave.
Speaker2: Okay.
Speaker1: Otherwise, you're not going to share me with them. We have the hospital you can share me with uh other people that'll be nice yeah i'm all about sharing with nice people and we did that monday oh can we segue into that one i think i just did i think that was did that mean that was a segue that was really nice okay first of all what you gotta do is talk about your first name and i'm gonna go upstairs and put down the dogs yeah i don't know what they're barking at either probably squirrel or something well the first gentleman i actually knew him before before, but only very briefly. You just fucked him? Well, yeah. I made you. Very important to clarify. I personally have a penis allergy. Okay. A friend of ours invited me to... A couple we knew. Yeah, okay, I probably knew he invited me to be part of a birthday present for him. I was part of their birthday present. We were going to fuck them, both of us, because it was his 40th birthday. So I hadn't met him before. We had a good time. He was a lot of fun. And we just hadn't seen him in a few years. So we reconnected. say how we reconnected no reconnected we were still a website yeah that's all you have to say we reconnected and he came over on saturday afternoon and oh i'm sorry monday afternoon i think it's still like that's the weekend for me so it was a really good time he was you know a lot of passionate kissing and fondling and he fingered my pussy real good got me really wet and had a great orgasm he took time yeah really took time really got me oh was great. He didn't ask for any pleasure for himself at that point? No, I don't think so. And that's something I find interesting, too. He took his dick a little bit, but that's always true. Very, very little. No, no, you did not. I was dressed in the pants. You took his pants off, and you kept his underwear on, and that came after him.
Speaker2: Oh, wow.
Speaker1: Yeah, yeah. I'm like, I least did. You wanted to, and he flipped you over before you could take his other one and then he proceeded and it's a video so yeah I get to relive it live well I actually get to see through a video monitor but that's another story um but uh it gave you a screaming orgasm that was incredible that was fun my toes were flipped in and hooked like they always do if you get to watch your videos you can tell I'm getting around. You know, porn stars, they go through the motions and they make the noises and stuff like that. You can tell if Donna's actually having fun, if she's enjoying what she's doing, watch her feet. They're flipping, baby. Especially the left one, so it's a really flip. Yeah, so if you see her flip with me, you know she's actually receiving a lot of pleasure. But I really can't control a whole lot of yeah after you came we had to take a little break so you could recover right and then then you proceeded to attack him yes i did i got a chance to ride him and um yeah that was fun that was that was a nice cock to ride that was a lot of fun didn't give you a cream pie no no it came with my belly
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Speaker1: it was on top oh that's nice that was really nice so then after that you showered and a couple hours later we had this other younger gentleman show up who was what 30, 31 Thank you. so then after that you showered yeah and a couple hours later we had this other younger gentleman show up who was what 30 31 30 30 year old again i'm 61 and this this younger guy decided he didn't just want to go one round he went two rounds came twice and i was like oh my god i need to start drinking gatorade taking my vitamins pretty decent sized cock oh yeah he was great the other one that gave you an oral orgasm so by the time i went to bed that night I was really pretty much but that's an interesting part too is I always find these
Speaker2: guys
Speaker1: generally so excited the concept that they get to play with you that they bypass giving you pleasure other than fucking they don't give you or or anything these guys did which was great it was awesome Thank you. pleasure other than fucking right you know they don't give you or or anything well these guys did these guys did which was great it was awesome it was fun you know it was uh it was very erotic watching you and the young guy gave you two cream pies yes he did yes he did well uh after the the first go around all these guys are younger than you the one guy's in his 40s obviously Yeah, the dogs, of course, were moaning and groaning and crying, so he's like, you have to feed them on the second one, so we just set the camera up, and we chatted for a a bit and we just let the camera run like okay well yeah we get to it we get to it we don't we don't so he set up the camera the video camera so you could see the what we were doing on the yeah yeah it wasn't like multi-camera but we could see it on on the TV so you guys can see yourself and if you see that video you'll see them keep looking over yeah see it on the on the tv i hooked it up to the television so you guys can see yourself and if you see that video you'll see them keep looking over the tv it's measuring the camera or whatever you're like oh how is that you oh that looks cool so i got a second cream pie with that one and so we we made sure that we could like i've opened my legs so you could actually see the cum dribbling out of my pussy. He gets in front of me. He's, like, looking at it and steps right in front of the camera after that. So, you'll have to edit that out, I'm sure. No. You know, we've got it. Well. Right at that point, I stopped it. There wasn't anything to see that was erotic after that. After that, yeah. But he was like, oh, that looks so cool. I'm like, you're in the with the camera. I forgot all about it. It was fun. It was fun. It's amateur. It was a good time. Even with all the mistakes that we made, it was so fun. What we record is you being a hot wife.
Speaker2: Right.
Speaker1: I'm not a good start. You know, it's enjoying these guys who you enjoy younger men and these guys enjoy older women yes they do yes they do their erections more than prove that it's actually I can just keep going and going oh that's true But I were talking like how many times he can come in a day, and he said he has come up to six times in one day. I've never known any man to come more than twice. I've done a couple times, and by the way, I was 15 but the problem was by the time I got to the 5th one nothing came out but I was in so much pain yeah my balls hurt for like over a really it felt like someone had smacked me in the nuts and i mean it's like i went below empty you know and it just had hurt medical assistance i was young and uh yeah we rented a hotel room and oh my goodness and uh yeah it was like uh actually again when you come and more you come the longer it takes between you actually at that point able to stay hard for four hours oh dear, it was it. Dumb, dumb, and well, empty of coffee. Empty of coffee, yeah. So, you were with, like, one girl? Yeah, my ex-wife, now my ex-wife. Oh, wow. Yeah, she was still living at home. Oh, my goodness. And I had a roommate in my apartment so we went and rented a hotel room motel actually and yeah we went there and got the knock the bottom out of her yeah got our $69 or whatever $70 worth of yeah that's i don't remember what we paid back then jesus christ but uh that was had to be late 80s yeah mid to late 80s so but uh yeah it was you know what you're doing when you're younger oh yeah oh yeah so but yeah now if i come once i'm done i think orgasms for me when we first got together i had that that one time where i had like god 40 something orgasms i don't think i could live through something like that now that's just too it's just too Well, I gave that woman the other month older than you. Oh, my God. I gave her 66 orgasms. I'm just going to be 60. I could do that for her easy. I'm sure you could. That's orally, not... That's oral, yeah. That's not... Right, right. And the orgasms are different. That's one thing you have to understand it's not the there's a difference between it was really big yeah you weren't in the room no no that's good the lord's name was called a few times. It is a very religious experience. I guess. You are closer to God at that point. She had all those piercings down there too. So I manipulate them. Oh, I didn't know she was pierced. Oh, yeah. She's got two rings. Oh, my goodness. I can grab those with my suckle arm and pull them out. I've never played with her. She's only she's only played with me yeah well we can change that because of uh when i was bondage yep i was this sub and she got when i get back into it that'd be fun and he's he's aching to fuck you oh i'm sure he is i sucked him twice that's all i've done it well he sucked him twice but between the two she's probably had over 400 organs oh yes that's for, that's all I've done. Well, they sucked her twice, but between the two, she's probably had over 100 orgasms. Oh, yes, that's for sure. That's for sure. Oh, my God, yes. I venture to say, from what I've been told, that's more than any other guy's given her. Lord, some people don't have that in a lifetime. It's, Jesus. Make it in two visits, that's crazy. But the orgasms are different. They're not, I mean, they're like the Thank you. jesus make it in two bits that's crazy but the orgasms are different they're not i mean they're like the they're the way you can have the average type orgasm right you can have the fucking knock your socks off or you can have the waves i look at it like waves crashing against the shore you can have like these waves of orgasms they're not as big as the big ones but they're every bit is you know enjoyable i mean there's nothing wrong with them it's just that they're they're smaller they're like waves crashing against the shores like one after the other again so it'd be like a roller coaster you have the small little hills that are nice but then you go by big fucking hills you know but sometimes it's a bunch of Thank you. so it'd be like a roller coaster you have the small little hills that are nice but then you go by the big fucking hills like oh you know but sometimes a bunch of small ones is just as good as one big one sometimes i'd rather have small a bunch of small ones than one big one because the really big ones like really wipe you out then you're no good after that like the small ones you You can recuperate a bit and keep enjoying yourself yeah but you know i mean you can't relate so i don't as much as i can compare it to a roller coaster kind of like that yeah but it'd be like a roller coaster there's a bunch of little yeah you do kind of things yeah which is kind of fun. Yeah. But maybe we're planning some more quamates for you for this weekend. See who shows up. Yeah, we'll get toasted. Yeah, we'll have a couple new guys. One guy's a return on Sunday. Yes. And there might be something new happening there. You talked about it last time. Oh, yeah. I didn't take back.
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Speaker2: I didn't know. I don't know if you're up here. Might be trying to do first time in close to ten years. Eight years. Eight years? Yeah. Has's been that long
Speaker1: Yes it has No It was over at the storage unit twice There was that old building It was there last time Well, yeah I had some not so great experiences With anal I mean it was a pleasure when you were doing it But afterwards the medical part It was like, you know what
Speaker2: Thank you. I had some not-so-great experiences with anal. I mean, it was a pleasure when we were doing it,
Speaker1: but afterwards, the medical part of it was like, you know what? I've got to stop this. Otherwise, my wage is going to be very messy. I don't want to take too much time. No, I try to keep it special. I don't want to prepare for it. You don't want to be, you know... I don't want to be... Do you think anyone should be saying for guys that are worthy? Yes. Yes. Keep it special. That's what I'm thinking. It's also something you have to, I'm always wondering, wondering like i don't want it to be overlooked and while we're doing it that it can be just being typical vaginal sex do i want it to be something it's obvious that it's anal because it's got to be special i want it to be very obvious that it's anal. So. Oh, when you sit there, wow, that dick hurts in my ass. Yeah, there have been a couple of times that I've slid into the wrong hole. I'm like, oh, oh, next hole down, next hole down. Wrong floor, wrong floor. Well, if I'm doing a doggy and they're taller than me, their dick automatically goes right in my ass. You's like you're a small woman, so those holes are closer than the average. Yeah, and all the dimensions, it's also... And when you're on top, your ass all opens up a little more. Yeah, it does. So it's a little more... Yeah, but on top, I don't have to worry about them sliding into the long hole. It's when they come from behind that...
Speaker2: Yeah.
Speaker1: Because they... Well, getting short... When you're short, like you are short like you are the guys are naturally a little higher so they kind of have to hunch over and I'd be lying and saying most guys don't want to stick it in your ass anyway that's the forbidden fruit You always want what you can't help. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker2: You know?
Speaker1: Yeah, but, ooh.
Speaker2: Well.
Speaker1: Hey, I'm not a porn star. My ass hasn't gotten that much of a workout in quite a while. Well, not since you had a Mexican the other night. That was a whole different workout. Good Lord. That was an out-born. Out out what yeah i don't know i don't know what you're trying to say it was an outward punishment it wasn't okay all right yeah definitely but uh yeah so we'll see what happens with the general sund should be interesting yeah to your call obviously but you know so we'll see but yeah we have some other potentials and who knows who might pop up at the last minute you never know yeah you know it's like sperm of the moment sperm of up Sperm of the moment Hey, I can't, my work schedule is this Yeah, you never know We could either run it with more or less Yeah, I like that one night We always had three guys here Yeah And so The one guy's like, oh, this sounds hot, but I'm backing out.
Speaker3: He's like, I'm probably not into that.
Speaker2: I mean, I'm not the comfortable person being around other men, especially, you know. You don't know the word. Well, yeah, even then, I'm not a performance artist, as you know. No, you're definitely more comfortable behind the camera. Yeah.
Speaker1: I am comfortable with me and one woman. Or two women. Or two. I think you're good with two. Yeah. But with other guys involved, I know. No. I know I am nonjudgmental. I don't care how big a guy is or isn't. I don't care how fast it takes if it blows a load or not. You know, I don't judge what other guys do. It's like easier if I just sit up. You're just not, you are a warrior. I'm an outgoing person with my clothes on i'm an introvert with my clothes on. Okay. Maybe introvert was the wrong word. I'm more shy. Yeah, you would never be a nude. No, but I don't know. I don't feel the need to be. I've been a dance nude for so many years. I don't feel the need to be I've danced nude for so many years I have no problem with people who want to be nude that's fine but I think for me and the funny thing is in my teenage years I always thought that would be great to be a nudist and now I'm I don't know it's like I tell you the stories like when I was going on into the steam room there's no need for me to go to the steam room naked no you guys are going to steam room naked i don't know why wear a bathing suit no one needs your dirty sweaty ass on a bench and then they put their ass hairs all over and shit it's like i don't need to sit in a the steamy room with a bunch of naked men where are you going to do the ladies you sweat sweat we don't need to see your cock sweat but we don't need to see your cocks with people no we don't know If you go into my opinion, and people have their opinion, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with gay people, I'm just saying, you go into my opinion, and people have their opinion, and people have their opinion, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with gay people, I'm just saying, you go into my opinion, and people have their opinion, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with gay people, and I'm just saying, you go into my opinion, and I'm just saying, you go into my opinion, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with gay people, and I'm just saying, you go have their opinion, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with gay people, I'm just saying, you go to a steam room with other men, and you're naked, and they're all naked, you're all gay.
Speaker3: You're all gay.
Speaker1: And I'm not, I'm not making, I have no problem with gay people. I really don't. But I just, there's no need for that. You know, it's like like wearing a fucking mask when you're in a car by yourself why the fuck would you do that it's you know i mean there's so many stupid things people do in life and it's just like why would you do that well did you eat when i was younger oh sunbathing naked i i did that i was i was a male woman wherever you recognize yourself as if you want to go to a nudist camp or someplace i have no problem with that that's great it's not for me well there's too many things that it sounds good on paper but when you have to go and do it there's so many things that oh wearing clothes is actually not a bad thing like have you ever gotten sunburned on your balls no i don't need my balls stuck in a frying pan. It's never been something I thought I've gotten my I'm usually wearing a bathing suit by my son bathed nude. My nipples and everything. I got a sunburn. Oh, that was so painful. It's that night. I'm sure people that are nervous do it in moderation. So they go out of a tan. You know know i'm hoping that most of them don't well they're doing things naked that are just you know i just don't feel the need whacking naked i don't need my balls smacking around the side you know it's i i if you want to do it that's great you know swimming that. That's fine. You need swimming dude's fine. I'm not going snorkeling. No, they're not. There'll be some shit under there that's like, you know, no, I don't need to see that. No, whatever it is, you don't need to see it. You know, in the fantasy world, everyone is, you know, 10 and they're gorgeous. Reality, the average, if you're lucky, is 3 to 2.75. We've been to nude beaches to do fan issues. Oh my god. I go to a nude beach and I feel skinny. And I go, wow. Oh, the whole thing was scary. So, you know, there are sections. They do section off the prettier people from whatever other people but oh you respect i respect it happens naturally i'm not it's not sectioned off like well let's see you rate a nine you go to this section over here oh my god it's here no i just think i just see it at swinger parties people tend to go off into the room real quick right right you have the pretty people then you have everyone else right and we're with everybody else i'm more comfortable with everybody else you know i don't need to be with the stuck up people no i don't either you know the the average person is a cool person to stuck up people people don't want to know what you do for a living, how much money you make, what you owe. Fuck you. People go to nude beaches or whatever.
Speaker2: It's fine.
Speaker1: Not my gig. Again, the fantasy is always better. Walking on a beach, naked, get sand in your crotch. No, no, like you're walking on the beach naked yeah get sand in your crotch no no no having sex on the beach have you ever had sex on the beach for it yes yeah uh-huh yeah exactly it's like fucking sandpaper rubber yeah and then you're walking around after we're showing the sand dropping off your nuts yep yep it gets in your pussy it gets in your lips it's ah I love it.
Speaker3: I love it.
Speaker1: I love it.
Speaker2: I love it. around after we're showing the sand dropping off your nuts raising it on your thighs
Speaker1: yep yep it gets in your pussy it gets in your lips in your mouth was that just me that's just you oh damn people are looking funny at me no
Speaker3: it's
Speaker1: you know people are doing it that's great Thank you. No, it's, you know, it's, uh, people will do it, that's great, you know, we went into a few new beaches doing photo shoots and stuff, and, you know, there's, it was interesting, well, it was interesting, yeah, so, but, I swear this guy is the one who's going out to the water, you know, it was interesting. Yeah. So, but. I saw these guys at the one beach going out into the water, you know, just like waist high. Yeah, I don't know, why? I don't know. That's when we were with our. Periscope up, yeah. Me and the other girls I was dancing with, we did all that crazy show on the beach. Yeah, three girls, yep. Yeah, three naked girls on the beach. I don't know. There was other naked women on the beach. You guys were younger and prettier than the other women on the beach. And you were fresh meat on the beach. Ah, that's true. That's right. There were like the regulars. Yeah. They were there. Yeah. So it was interesting. It was interesting. But, you you know and then we have some people we know that go to the news resorts on a regular basis and i sit there and go i definitely don't want to go see that naked yeah i don't know there's a lot of things everybody wants to see me naked, Nick. You keep, you know, telling me, is that as dark as this room can get? I got the roofies. That's my aphrodisiac, right? Make me turn my phone off so it doesn't even go on by, you know. It's not how it's, you know, it's a secret. I'm going to put my blindfold on. Tell me not to talk so you can fantasize on somebody else.
Speaker2: Why?
Speaker1: It's not that bad.
Speaker2: Works. Wow. Stop. So, anyway. else why it's not that bad stop so anyway but yeah so you know the interesting part of this whole dialogue was your monday with those two gentlemen yeah that was head. Yeah, seriously. I was exhausted right in the day.
Speaker1: I was just exhausted. And we still had time to play. And then I gave you another workout. Yeah, I was like, oh, I don't know if I can handle any more orgasms. Stop, stop. Yeah, that's a phrase hard to understand women ever making. No more orgasms. I can't take it anymore. Stop.
Speaker2: Thank you. It's hard to understand women ever make it. Don't worry, guys. Guys, I can't take it anymore.
Speaker1: Stop.
Speaker2: The next day, I was still a little tired, and I was a little teeny bit sore. I thought I'd be more sore than I was from all the pounding and activities and stuff. Build up that pussy cow. Yeah, pussy cows.
Speaker1: Whatever. Yeah, it was cow. Yeah, pussy cows. Whatever.
Speaker2: Yeah, they were.
Speaker3: It was fun. It looked like it.
Speaker1: It was erotic watching it.
Speaker2: So with that said, we can wrap this up. Sure. Again, we want to thank everyone for listening.
Speaker3: We should have mentioned this earlier.
Speaker1: Oh, yeah, we should have. Or visit her website at donnalyn8660.com. That's d-o-t-o's d-o-n-n-a-l-y-n-n 8-6-6-0 dot com and you'll get all the links are there to get to her outlets, everything from this podcast to her OnlyFans site or Twitter or Instagram. Yeah, it's nothing more than a landing page and all the links will be on there. Not really much for a website, but it's easier to have it all in one place. So, and if we, we've been talking about exploring some other channels to share her stuff on. So as they happen, they'll be on that site. We'll see. So, we're going to get to the end of the day. exploring some other channels to share her stuff on so as they happen they'll be on that site we'll see we shall see so you know follow her on one of those and reach out to her and uh let her know what you're thinking of this podcast or what she's doing you know she'll get in touch with you she's answers all her own messages you know work a little bit come down answer some messages work a little bit upstairs come down answer some stuff but uh so anyway with that said yes i want to thank you all again for listening and this is donna lynn signing off and vince want to say good night good night we'll see you later