In this episode of the Hot Wife Podcast, host Donna Lynn welcomes guests Nate and Daphne, who share their experiences in the swinging lifestyle. The conversation explores the dynamics of open relationships, the importance of communication and trust, and the couple's journey into swinging.They discuss their first experiences, the emotional aspects of watching partners with others, and the role of BDSM in their relationships.The episode emphasizes the significance of comfort and mutual understanding in navigating the lifestyle. In this engaging conversation, the hosts explore various aspects of intimacy, pleasure, and the dynamics of sexual relationships. They discuss the importance of kissing as a connection point, delve into BDSM experiences, and share their preferences for giving and receiving pleasure.The conversation also touches on exhibitionism, memorable group experiences, and the evolution of sexual desires, emphasizing the significance of open communication in relationships.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/hot-wife-podcast-and-the-swinger-lifestyle--5343522/support. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Welcome to the Hot Wife Podcast, where we dive into discussions about relationships, intimacy, and everything in between. Before we begin, we want to make it clear that the views expressed on this podcast are solely those of the host and guests, and should be taken as opinions, not professional or medical advice. Additionally, we remind all listeners that this podcast is intended for adults over the age of 18. Unauthorized rebroadcast of this show is strictly prohibited without the written permission of the owners of my Hot White Podcast. I am now back from my surgery and I'm feeling no pain.
So this will be a really interesting show. Thank you, OxyContin. And Vicodin. And Vicodin, whatever. Hey, we have some guests. I was just going to say that. You do the honors. No, you do it. I don't know what that means. Okay, we have Nate and Daphne. They are in the Lifestyle with us tonight. They're listeners. Oh, yeah, they're listeners. And they're local. So they reached out to us. Yeah. I told you you could do it. And we sucked them into the studio. I know. It was all like, here we have cookies and alcohol. Well, where are the cookies? Yeah, where are the cookies out there?
I got the alcohol. So say hello to everybody, guys. Hi. Hi. There you go. There we go. Yeah. So, yeah, as I was saying, where the hell are cookies? Yeah, that's what they always say, come to Darkside, we have cookies. Yeah, I heard. Okay, we have alcohol. It is. And I'm not doing any alcohol because I can't. Good for you. Yeah, well, I'm making up for you. Oh, my God, yes. You are, definitely.
I'm about four doubles in Three sheets to the wind, folks This is going to be real interesting I'll help out Daphne's playing catch up She's got her Irish I bought her a bottle of Proper 12 Irish whiskey Now, before we get into the Swinger stuff Are you predominantly just an Irish whiskey Drinker? No, so I was in Scotland So, let's do it. Before we get into the swinger stuff. Right. Now, you're just predominantly just an Irish whiskey drinker? No. So I was in Scotland and Ireland this summer. And that's how I really learned to truly enjoy Scottish whiskey and Irish whiskey.
Irish Scottish is scotch. Scotch, yes. What's your favorite sc favorite scotch? Too many to me. The way she said. I kind of drank my way through two countries. I had a lot. So the memory isn't quite there? The memory's not quite there. I think I have it in photos.
It really was just, it was a new journey for me because here stateside i tend to stick with the you know generic silly peanut butter whiskeys and things like that and had not really ever delved into drinking it like this neat um but i learned while i was there We did tour a dist distillery uh blair athel in scotland and it is amazing and i did bring a bottle back there you go now the scotch there is so much more diversity in scotch you have like the the iowa this is not about right you have the pd scotches from Iowa and stuff like that. Yes.
I'll have to show you my, let me show you my collection, baby. That's what gets all the girls out there, I'm telling you. I have Japanese whiskeys, which are scotch, but since they weren't made in Scotland, they're not considered scotch. Okay. But they're actually very crisp. Nice. Nice. Oh, yeah, absolutely. It's a whole new world for me. So just kind of really working my way through some of them. Yeah. This is amazing. The proper 12 is amazing. Yeah, it's a Colin McGregor, like we talked about earlier, and some of the proceeds go to a charity. That's awesome.
So it's a great budget Irish whiskey. It's like $24 a bottle. That's very reasonable. Yeah. So anyway, so you guys are local to us. How did you hear about us? That's a great question. I think I found a – I did. I found your podcast on a search that I did through our podcast player. And it came up, and then I listened to the both of you, and it was amazing.
And all of a sudden, you mentioned your SLSs address your profile and i looked that up and i go like holy crap they're right down the street i mean this is great this is awesome yeah i mean i can't wait so then i reached out and uh you know here we are so in the studio we're real Look at you, yeah, there you are. Well, not really. Might be disappointing, but we're real. Oh, no, not at all. Oh, my gosh. This has been, you know, the communications between us has been awesome. And it's just been such a joy to, I was just anticipating this meeting. I can't, I'm so excited about it.
We were looking forward to meeting both of you, too. I was hoping my surgery wouldn't, you know. Talk into the top of your mic. I was hoping my surgery wouldn't, you know, mess things up here. Hang on down. I think I'm doing okay now. There you go. Yeah. First couple days were rough. Oh, I bet. Even tonight, I was like, I don't know if I'm going to be able to stay awake for this. But here I am.
But if you do fall asleep, you know yeah we'll just ravish me any way you want she falls asleep we'll have a good show okay oh that's funny not not nice but funny truthful there's a loving husband that i know oh my gosh there we go now the show just got better. Because I passed out in the corner somewhere. I'm sorry. That slider just goes down and mutes your mic. I don't know how that happens. Oh, no, not again. The abuse I put out there. The abuse. That is funny. Again, the show is, as you see, is no script or anything else. We're just going to have fun and have a conversation.
It's just friends hanging out and talking. So you guys have only been in the lifestyle, what, seven, eight years, you said? Probably more, 10. Yeah, but that's a long time. Oh, my gosh. Sure. Only. We've been in 20. 20. Yeah, well, in comparison, yeah, that's true. But we find on many of our outings that we are relatively in the lifestyle longer than most. Okay. Oh, wow. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I would say. Yeah, any of our meet and greets or our hotel takeovers, any place we go, we usually find that we're the people that have been in a little bit longer than most.
So you're the seasoned professional, right? Seasoned, I like that. That's a lovely way to put it. Yeah, thank you. So what made you, well, how long have you been married? 12 years. Good. We've been together 15 right right we've been together 15 married 12 i am his third and wow oh is that true yeah yeah no he didn't he's my second and second, and we're stopping at this. This is it. Yes, we are. Yeah, so. We just enjoy this whole thing. And like you've guys said a million times on your podcast, it has brought us closer together than we've ever believed that it could. We're dynamic, isn't it?
It is. The communication alone with being open, so open to everything. Trust. Wonderful, Vince. That's it, yeah. It is. And we had great communication when we first started dating, I think, because both of us came out of bad relationships. Come in one now. There you go again.
Your next one will be much better third time there we go you always hope for better yeah you don't want to but no yeah we had great communication to start with i think that's what allowed this to happen in the first place and um he can i'll when we get to the point i'll let him tell the story of how we landed in all this in the first place we differ our stories vary well i'll just let him tell his and uh and then i'll correct him it'll be great well you know about that right and they're done that yeah got the t-shirt and the coffee Good for you. I don't correct him. It'll be great.
You know about that, right? Been there, done that. Got the t-shirt and the coffee mug. Good for you. I don't correct you much. That you admit to. Just every now and then. Oh, you're wrong. I have to do that. Oh, my goodness. So you guys were together for a little bit, and then when did you sit there and go, hey, we should fuck other people? That's a great question, Vince. I don't know.
for a little bit and then when did you sit there and go hey we should fuck other people that's a great question Vince and let me let me just tell you this is how it really went because she'll correct it no at one point one day we were sitting around and she said that she would have liked to have an opportunity to be with another woman. Right. Okay. Okay. And that's not a bad thing. No. I say it all the time. Right. I want to be with another woman. That's funny. And then another woman? And then another woman? And another. So she told me that.
And then I went and started looking up what possibilities could that, you know, how to make that happen. And the lifestyle just, you know, jumped out. Okay. And so we started with SLS. We, our first encounter, I guess, was, oh, it was a meet and greet. Just thought about that. Yeah. Didn't know that. Yeah. Our first encounter was a meet and greet out locally to here. And somebody, we were just spying. Oh, well, yes.
So we were trying to get the feel of the land to try to see what it was going to be about because we ended up going to a local meet and greet and sitting outside seeing what kind of weirdos were going to go in. We weren't there. You were stalkers. No, you were not. No, we weren't there. But we were eating ice cream. It was good. We were eating ice cream, watching people go in. Hey, look, there are a bunch of normal people going in. Like us. And they look really happy.
And so we ended up, long story short, we ended up meeting, a person came over and said, hey, you're here for this, we know it, and why don't you join us? So we walked over and joined the group, and it's been great ever since. That's all she wrote. Yeah, it's been great. That's awesome. And it didn't take much. Okay. Yeah. Was it weird for you guys at first seeing each other with somebody else? Oh, that didn't happen right away. Right, but not for me. When it finally did happen, it was not strange for me. It enhanced my feeling enhanced my feeling.
I mean, I'm – yeah, it was like – it was mind-blowing. Because you don't know until you know. Yeah. And then when I found out how awesome it was to see that, I just went through the roof. And I go like, this is – these are our people. Yeah. What's your name again? Oh, boy. Donna? Yes. Okay, when Donna and I, when I introduced her to swinging, she was always like, it's weird. That's so weird. You want to see me fuck someone else? I'm like, yeah. Yeah. I was like, you're deranged. And she was like, there's something very wrong with you, Vince. Well, in so many ways.
There's something very wrong with you, Vince. Well, in so many ways. In so, so many ways. But it was, I knew that it would be erotic to watch her give and or receive pleasure from somebody, male, female, somebody else. And I have no real insecurities. My theory is if someone wants to leave me, they're going to leave me. It doesn't matter whether we're swinging or not. They're going to do it. So why not enjoy it? But didn't you find that it opened the communications between you and Donna? Well, I, I, I, what's the proper term? Swung, swang, with my first wife, you know? That's a good point.
Swing, swang, whatever. Hat swinged. Yeah, I mean, I did it with my first wife, and I found it very erotic watching her give and or receive pleasure. she did not find that the opposite way but um anyway it's a different story different show um so but you know i found it very erotic and i'm secure enough that i didn't have any issues um and so so then afterwards like donna and i've talked about on the show, the fact that watching Donna play with somebody else, um, afterwards it, it heightens our relationship because we're playing after that. You two play predominantly with couples. Yes.
That is correct. Okay. And that's great. Yeah.
Um, but it's a compersion thing right well we prefer to play with couples but um for some reason i tend to repel women uh i'm sorry dear i don't know what it's we've talked about it on the show and that's fine he's had some bad experiences we've had bad experience with couples women will like men and women will be attracted to her but not necessarily me and that's fine that's that's one of the tougher dynamics of couples correct everybody has to be in tune yes yes and um but um but watching donna again being a photographer slash videographer i'm more the voyeur so for me to watch her is very erotic right so um that was fine then afterwards we get together and play afterwards and talk about what what i enjoyed what she enjoyed and it heightens our relationship it does it really and we're the same right we we do this and and when we come back together there's a lot of um replay right you go back and you and you discuss it and and we can sometimes it can we can utilize it for a couple of weeks yeah you know it, yeah.
You know, it's not just a one and done. It can really, really extend itself. So, yeah, he's very much into compersion. We've learned that. It's not that we're not opposed to playing with an individual. We're not at all.
It just kind of has has evolved this way but we're always open to new experiences absolutely yeah so we we try to keep an open mind yeah we try to push the envelope a bunch a little yeah yeah i mean just doing this is pushing the envelope yeah we've been talking for a few weeks now about getting together on the show so and know you've expressed that I'll use a word Might not be the proper term A little insecurity I totally agree That's a good point And we felt that way And listening more and more to your Prior podcasts It got much more comfortable Especially when you were talking to other people.
You've heard the term in the lifestyle, right? You move as fast as the slowest person. Sure. And that's what we really have tried to adhere to that. And it has worked. And I think it's kept us on an even keel and we're still able to enjoy all this without any drama or anything like that I'm fine with this kind of stuff I think Nate I think Nate struggles a little bit more but I think this is a good thing don't you? as we talked about this is a loose format podcast. Yeah. As you know, there was no script or anything coming into this. It's like, we're just going to hang out.
This is, it's the same as if the four of us are talking without microphones or with microphones. Yeah. It's the same conversation, just plop microphones. If we were to ask you something uncomfortable, I expect you to sit and go, I don't really want to answer that. Right. And then punch Don in the face. That goes without saying. Don't know how little that happened. I just don't hit the shoulder, please. Not the shoulder. We'll avoid the shoulder. It's only 23 days old. Oh my gosh, that's funny. Oh.
Again, as we've talked about with you guys, You know, off of air and everything else It's like, it's a loose show We're not trying to get anyone in trouble Or anything else It's just like, you know, it's just fun And I like to hear other people's experiences Because all I hear is, you know We know Vince and our experience We're kind of like. It's nice to have some, like, fresh ideas and fresh experiences that other people can share. You know, because we, like you said before, the communication, that was one thing that we really found that opened up our relationship. And trust. What's that?
Trust. One of the things, nothing is taboo. Nothing is taboo. I can talk to Vince and be like, you know what? I really want to be flogged. And he's like, I'm not into that. But I can make that happen for you. Right. You know, and he'll be very much, very open to be very supportive. Well, and I'm there to make sure. Oh, you are. We were at Exotica some years ago. And a guy, she was over in the BDSM area. Now, I'm not into BDSM. We've talked about that.
I was heavily abusedM area Now, I'm not into BDSM We've talked about that I was heavily abused as a child I'm not into that But she enjoys limited So a guy I love being flogged A guy who was a quote-unquote master, I guess And said, you know, can I flog your wife? I'm like, if you hurt her, I'll kill you. It's simple. Oh, stop it. It wasn't like that. But I'm saying, if you're up there and I see you screaming in pain, I am going to rip his tonsils out through his asshole. Stop it. Now there's a vision. Yeah. Not a good one. Well, you know. Actually, it was. But I understand that. Yeah.
And everything was fine. Would you not defend your wife to the nth degree? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And thank goodness this never came up. We've never even gotten close to anything like that.
But if there is a point that things get a little bit uncomfortable, we find with this community you can just say stop Or no And whatever's going on Stops and You walk away and you can Still be friends with these people Yeah I mean it's not like Yeah it's not like a give and take Type of thing it's just I'm sorry that didn't Work and let's move on Yeah Well again We do the We do the hot wife thing Okay Where When Donna has played With someone a couple times That we have a trust level With them Right That Donna can go on a hot date That's always fine She can go out To have a nice dinner with them And then go someplace Where they come back here Where they go to his place Or whatever Really And have You know Some things And then Donna comes home to me and then go someplace where they come back here or they go to his place or whatever and have some things.
And then Donna comes home to me and then she shares that with me and we have our fun. Nice. But it's got to be someone we trust. Of course.
It's usually somebody that even if we're done playing we'll come out and we'll have drinks with Vince and hang out and then my playmate will go his way and we'll go up and so you'll have like a whole date yeah now i'm interviewing you guys yeah yeah it's like a whole but again this is you know not somebody just like met right away it's something we built a relationship with i mean there's one guy i know who exactly he's talking with he's come over he's helped us with the deck and he's yeah he's been a real friend but he'll be like hey how about if i take you out to dinner and And dinner, of course, means, you know, dinner and something, yeah.
Dessert. Dessert.
he's yeah he's been a real friend but he'll be like hey how about if i take you out to dinner and dinner of course means you know dinner dinner and something yeah dessert dessert being you wow yeah and the thing is i'm entitled to do the same oh absolutely sure he had a friend over and i was doing work around here and they two were up having fun in the bedroom so nice yeah so it's But it's you know that's another level yeah it's it it is but back to what we were talking about about communication and trust i think as long as those two you have those two key components right if you have communication and trust it's and comfort and comfort you have to be able to be a good word yeah you have to have comfortable like um you have to be comfortable with her having fun with someone else and you waiting for yours there are plenty of people out there that like well if she or he is getting theirs i should be getting mine yeah correct and like.
We're not like that. I have no problem with Donna having fun and giving fun. And then afterwards, after she showers, tea louses. And then we can have our fun. Right. You know, It's, but that's everyone's comfort level. Correct. You know, you might be comfortable with your wife having fun with someone. Maybe you're not without you having your benefit. Oh, not at all. But I'm just saying not necessarily you. Some people are like that. I'm saying in general. Yeah. Yeah, I understand that.
i understand that that's interesting i find it i one of the things we've been unsuccessful with is i tell donna again being a photographer videographer i'm a voyeur by nature okay okay so i tell donna when she goes on her hot dates i don't expect complete documentation but send me pictures now and then of what's going on okay you know what I get is here's I'm having Thank you very much.
I'm going to get my camera What I get is Hold on, I'm going to take a picture No, no What I get is, here's what I'm having for dinner It's like The next thing I know, it's like, oh look, we're watching TV It's like Well, okay, that two hours between What happened?
Oh, no, I fucked him and sucked him But am I showing you I had for dinner And I'm showing you you're're watching tv now it's like well that's not the erotic one i always just have a little camera and just let it go no that's great it's like give him your fucking phone i don't take a picture of you ride number you sucking his dick there we go wow not like like well here's before when my shoulder gets healed and I go back on a hot date, I promise. No, you won't. Yeah, I will. Goals. I'm full of shit. Life goals. Yeah, it is a life goal. I like it. I like it. Oh, my gosh.
I'm going to put it on my New Year's resolution. I will document my hot wife experience for my husband with pictures and video. Okay. Erotic pictures and video, not food. Erotic. That's where I want to start on. This is where I'm having to eat. This is the beginning. Look at this steak salad. I had Caesar dressing on the side. You carried away what you're doing. I didn't eat your croutons. I hate you, Vince. Just shut up. I want to come over there and so good. To get there, you've got to go through three of us to get there. Yeah, yeah. Okay, it's not going to happen. I didn't have dessert.
That was later. Oh, boy. Here we go. Yeah, he will not let me live that day. Oh, no. It's more than once. I'm sorry. I get carried away. Okay, so. Oh, my goodness. So, do you ever, have you found a couple That you're comfortable with that you could Like Be with, both of you?
Yeah Bob and Jay There's a house party we go to That They're They're more into the BDSM thing Okay But the wife isn't Necessary They're both not demanding on the BDSM thing No But Donna enjoys the Mild side of the BDSM thing I'm like being strained, flogged, those kind of things Flogged, beat, you know Handcuffed, nipple clamps Nipple socks Just a couple things Just a couple Sand you across Can you slow down Because I'm trying To document all this While you're saying that Yeah But you know We're convinced Into the normal stuff Yeah We did have a really Great foursome with them Yeah We you were Bob remember you started now and then you jumped in you forgot about that nice that was very erotic oh that's because I was part of it it would have been more erotic had I not been a part of it I hate you so much you guys are so funny he's busting on me i can see that sounds wrong if i say it i know but now it was a very erotic no so now there are a couple that um the nice thing is we kind of both get what we're looking for right right but you know and again um they host a nice house party um it's a technically it's a bdsm house party but it's not 100 bdsm no if you want to use the st andrew's cross is there for you and spanking benches the nice thing is too is there are people within our age group you guys guys are close to our age group.
Okay. So there's, we've been to a lot of meet and greets that have been various dynamics. I'll put it that way. And especially like the younger dynamics. They all want the pretty people. Yes. You know, the people 40 and over, it's like, oh my God, they're old. I know. Why are they here? I mean, mostly talking about Donna, but anyway. Oh. Ouch. I'm six years older than him, and he will not let... I can be six minutes older than you, and you will bust all these. And that's just the complete opposite, because I'm six... Seven years older than me. Seven years older than me. Okay.
But it works out really well, yeah. As a matter of fact, we're heading to a hotel takeover, 50 and over. Nice. 50 and over, next weekend. Yeah, this coming weekend. Yeah, coming up. Nice. Yeah, we're excited about that because it's the first time we've ever experienced something like that And it's the first time that they've put it on Right So it will be interesting to see How all that plays out You know Yeah So now Okay So each of you What are each of you into? What are your hot buttons? Do you want to go first?
I'm not You go first Okay I'm actually more interested in hers I bet I bet And I appreciate that Yeah Ha, not an attractive man. She is not. She's a hot woman. She is. She's not an attractive man. Oh, my gosh. You just don't't know you're sweet um some of the things that i absolutely love i love i'm not i'm not into true bdsm i i don't like being restrained or anything that like that however i do love um i love the spanking aspect i I love a good paddle or use your hand. That's not a bad paddle. Yeah, use your hand, but I'm not restrained. See, that's how I see BDSM.
I see it as when you're going through the process, you're kind of more, I don't know, restrained. We have a friend that's very much into it. So if I'm licking your pussy and I hold your hands down, would that be a problem? Oh. No, that would not be a problem. Prove it. Let's go. Oh, here we go. Okay, end of show. Thank you. Oh, sorry. Never mind. I got to play this song out. Oh, there you go. I'm all flustered. Wow. I'm all beside myself now. That never happens. Sorry. That's okay. I was trying to think about baseball, puppies, rainbows. That's exactly what we're doing.
I get back to the men in tight pants and it's over. Absolutely. That'll work. Absolutely. No, I love, I do love that. I like the physical contact. I love, you know, you want hot buttons, hot spots, hot buttons. I'm taking notes. Hold on. I told you I was doing the same. She's rubbing her neck her neck There's two Not rubbing But if you Were to go back here And just Kind of sink your teeth in Hmm That's a really good spot Like your neck Neck kiss Bit Bit Lightning bit Hard fight Oh hard fight I don't know But not It's for me I don't know Hang No, it's for me. I don't know.
Hang on a minute, hang on. Really with the sound effects. Oh my goodness gracious. That's funny. I do. But you love kissing. I do. Kissing is like my absolute favorite thing to do. Kissing is so erotic. It's how I make that first connection with somebody. So truly, for me, that's where it starts. It starts with kissing. And literally, I can get carried away and just do that for a really long time. Sometimes you kind of have to nudge me to move along and let's get the party started in other ways. But yeah, kind of. sounds creepy. Good thing it's near Halloween.
love it I do I love that And then I just like When things just simply go from there It's Oh my God He's so funny I know, I love it Oh God What a whack job Yeah, no It's every day like this, huh, Donna? Just to wear it. God, please. Make it stop. Just make it stop. Take your top off. These subliminal messages are, yeah. So subliminal. Oh, my God. Yeah, so. All right, nipple's hard. Getting there. Let's keep going at it. I have some more Irish whiskey. Working on it. Yeah, no. Okay. Yeah, those are the kinds of things I love.
I love when there's a hotel party, a hotel takeover that we go to run by a group, And she normally has a crew come in that has a room set up for, like, BDSM play. Just demonstrations if you want, but if you really want to book a session, you can book a session. She also has a girl that comes in and does the hot wax, so she'll do it on either men and women. So she'll drizzle or whatever on your front or on your back. I have it done on my back. And, like, that's awesome. I love the heat of all that. But my favorite part is when the knife comes out and she just starts to scrape. It is probably.
It sounds to me like you're kind of there. You're kind of into me. It's like, no, I'm not into me. You said, but, you know, hold me down, pour wax on me, spank my ass. But I'm not into me. Okay, I'm so not into me. You know, fuck me hard, spank my ass, lick my toes. Yeah, toe licking. Oh, I do love that. Yeah, I. I do, too. I have no trouble with my feet, my toes. No. So tell me something. While I'm licking your pussy, what should I be doing? Just there. That's your focus. Oh, you have no idea. What do you mean, I have no idea? Stop it, Vince. Oh, here he goes. Just say. Good Lord.
Do you want to tell her, Donna? Oh, no. No, it's ridiculous. Okay, when Vince and I first got together, now. A hundred years ago. A hundred, a hundred fifty years ago. In a galaxy far, far away. Oh, that's funny. There was an evening, and we were in the office, and you went down on me me and I just went into that zone. It was like 42 orgasms later. I was like a quivering. Donna made a statement one time to me. How did you know it was 42? I'm trying to keep count. I should be able to do push-ups on just my tongue.
we go at the parties we go to the women like the Jay we talk about she came over I spent two hours just licking her pussy she lost count of how many orgasms that's my god-given talent we definitely had sheets that day. I've always put an extra one down there because I know Jay. It's a gift. Yeah, I think so. You have to take your gifts and you... I share. And share. I'm a giver. He's such a giver. There you go. Oh, goodness. And he enjoys it, so, and it's like, great. I love eating pussy. My favorite. Yeah. Yeah, you nailed it. Yeah, that's it. I'm a giver. And the people I've been with.
They enjoy it. They do. Yes. They do. Very much. Yeah, and I just enjoy the erotism of that, for them to enjoy what I have to give. I almost enjoy the foreplay more than the actual sex sometimes. That sounds really crazy. I understand that. No. I understand that. I do. Because once you get into penetration, and that's great and wonderful, it seems like that's kind of like the end game. Right. I want to keep building and building and building. Like I've said before, once you get over the fence, what's so exciting? Yeah. I have a friend that has the best analogy for that.
He says it's like a roller coaster. Yes. You know, you get on the roller coaster, and getting on is on is all the anticipation heading up the big hill all the anticipation the fun comes in when you're going down and flipping around and doing the loop-de-loops and all that and then when you pull back in the station oh that's what it is so it's it's all theplay, like you said. It was such a great analogy. I appreciate him telling us that. It was good. So what do you enjoy giving? I love giving blowjobs. Girl, boomerang. Hang on. Okay, so. I can just turn my mic off.
I do, there is just, I enjoy taking my time I'm not in it to my whole thing is don't and I don't mean this in a bad way, don't come at me with the only goal of trying to make me orgasm. That's not what I'm necessarily after. I'm just after the pleasure and the enjoyment of the moment and what's going on. So I love to take my time. And I try to find different and new ways to... Please get your hands out of your pants. Stay with us, man. Stay with us. Yeah, no, I... Who's got a cigarette? You don't smoke. Cigars. I might be now. Yeah, no, I enjoy... That is probably next to kissing.
That's where you start, right? But giving a blowjob is my absolute favorite when it comes to being with another gentleman Yeah So, you point out getting divorced soon? I hope not Ask him for a friend Ask him for a friend Don't even take him seriously He's so full of crap You are, I do Welcome to the hot vent show Don't laugh, he seriously, he's so full of crap. You are, I do. Welcome to the Hot Vince Show. Don't laugh, he had a whole opening for the Hot Husband Show. I was like, really? Oh, no. It's going to take off one day. Oh, I mean, you're such a scoundrel. I'm up to two listeners.
You and who else? I don't know. Some guy in Taiwan. Oh, I don't want to know. Okay. So what do you enjoy giving and or receiving? Okay. Like I said, I enjoy giving more than I like receiving. And the reason is I have a very hard time on being the focus of attention.'t just just difficult i mean i've had opportunities when i've had two women and actually an opportunity where i had four women at one time and it was just mind-blowing yeah i mean the feeling's great but but it was overwhelming too much you know too much attention on me i like to be be the giver and enjoy the response from that.
I agree with you. Yeah, it's easy, I mean, for me to fall into that part. Yeah. Yeah. I'm the same way. Yeah. I enjoy giving far more than receiving. Not that I hate receiving, but. Oh, no. Like at the house parties, I'm not an on-display kind of person. You're not an exhibitionist, that's for sure. And you, Donna? Oh, I'm an exhibitionist. Yes, she is. I've been dancers. I have no problems with that. But that's why we're different. That's what makes the lifestyle so great. Opposites do attract, I guess. You know, I guess that's what it is. I'm good looking. You're not. And I'm homely.
So that just works out right now. Don't want to overstate the obvious. But it allows us to. None of this is true. For the people that are listening, believe me, these are two very good looking people. I don't know about today. Donna tells me in a dark room, no one's more handsome than me in a dark room. And alcohol helps. Oh, alcohol helps. Stop it. Oh, boy. Oh, my goodness. And I lost my train of thought. Thanks. That's okay. That's okay. No, she is the exhibitionist. Yeah, I definitely have no problem with people watching me in rooms and situations like that.
Yeah, I don't have a problem with that. In fact, I always feel like I always want to invite people in. Come on, come on. Right? Okay. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. It's fun. Yeah. It's fun to have people watch. It is fun having people watch. We were at a club with a couple a few months ago. Okay. Down at TPA. Well, wherever. You're telling the story. Oh, that was a funny story. It is a funny story. So the club is... I love the club. It's down in Maryland. Could be. Somewhere. Somewhere down south. It's in the 50 states. It is in the 50 states. It's fine. It is.
It's in the 50 states. So we go to the club with a couple that we regularly hang with. And she and I had brought some toys. And we were just kind of perusing the club. Licking logs and Legos. Scrabble was one. Trouble. Monopoly. It's a favorite for everybody. Trouble's my favorite. Mousetrap, you know, you're in the long game. You hit the right spot. You do. The trap falls. Yes, it does. It does. So we're in this one room, and it was set up like a – the theme was, I guess, Batman. It was the Batcave. It was the Batcave. I'll spread those Batwings. Oh, my gosh. Right.
So it's two rooms with an opening between couches over here, and there's like a round bed over here. No one sees that. I know. I know. I have to do this to talk, though, so it just is what it is. I use my hands. We're losing the visuals of the hands. I know, you're using. This is audio. I know, I know. There's a bed to the left, and there's couches to the right. That works. How were you dressed? Show us. See, isn't that lovely? That's how I was dressed. Just look, This is not a robe. Window above the couches.
So this is where people that are new to the club, they get a tour of the club, and there's a window looking into this particular room, and you can see everything. And so- If you're wearing nothing, obviously. Yes. So the gentlemen are sitting on the couch to the right. She and I are over on the couch to the right she and i are over on the bed to the left and i had um i'm gonna say strap on but it's not strap strap it's like anyway let's strap on for lack of a better term here and i've got her bent over the bed and she and i are just enjoying ourselves we're just having a a good time.
The two of us. I am not paying attention to the boys. I'm not paying attention to the children. And then all of a sudden I look over and there's like, I don't know, 15 people standing at the window. The tour was coming through. The tour was coming through. They're all at the window. And I go like, oh, hey girls. I said, the tour's here. And it just amped it up. The Chinese tours with the cameras? I don't know.
They're all at the window And I go like Oh hey girls I said the tour's here And And it just It just Amped it up Oh it was crazy Chinese tours with the cameras Pretty much It was almost You felt like that I am telling you It was There was something about Having People that you Do not know Watch Or care about Or care about Yeah Watch And it actually For me it enhanced The entire The entire time Moment Whatever you want to call it What's the most erotic experience Both you had Oh Individually You go Oh it's just so So we're at a hotel takeover And a friend of mine's there And he says Do you think we could In his room he said you think we can put these beds together he had two queen-size beds i said i don't know i don't know if they move you know how hotels are made out anymore and but these did so we he moved the dresser we put the beds together and we invited six other people in and uh oh my gosh it was everything it was our first time to be in a group setting that like that with that many people that many people so yeah and and it was it was fluid and and you're just the movement that But I can't show with my hands yeah really you're kind of that depends on the day sure God bless you I think I might be in love he's not sure he's not sure yet I just can't stand up but yeah I would have to go with that one as well because, again, it was our first time in such a bigger – normally it's just couples.
And this was – it was amazing. Yeah, and he's very confident. He's a very confident person, and he'd had no trouble just bringing people in. Yeah. And here we go. And it was just – I'm going like, wow. That's good. Yeah. This was wonderful. It was, you know, hands and feet and everything all over the place. Wow. Yeah. Thanks for bringing that back. Sure. Hey, at least I could do it. That's fine. Memories. Almost time to go home, right?
Honey, we have to leave now I'm telling you We're not going to get out of the driveway But we've got to go So what's the most What is Is there anything you want to do You haven't done yet? It's a good question It's I have to give that some thought I'll see you next time. Oh, I mean, it's a good question. I have to give that some thought. I'm sure there is. I mean, I've always wanted to have a, and we have several, but not to the point that I think I like it.
Have a couple that we could could be close to in a um you know just in a regular friendship way and still have that on the side so so it would be like friends with benefits but but we do have that we do but maybe not to a the extent that we do we we have tried going down the poly route um Oh, that didn't work. And sadly. I don't see it. Sadly, it did not. Yeah. We've talked about it, but not like we wanted to do it. Right. The poly thing for us doesn't work. Right. Again, I'm a pretty simplistic person. Yeah, you are simple. Multiple love I can't do. Okay. No, no, right.
But, you know, having people that you're close with. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And we do. We do. We have several that we are very close with and that we, and hopefully they feel the same, that they can just, you know, ring us up and say, hey, you want to get together? And that has happened in the last couple of weeks it's true it's true yeah yeah we've been fortunate yeah as far as i'll tell you okay so there's something there digging. This is gold. Start reeling that one in. Yeah. You can thank me later for digging this up. We'll find out what it is first. True.
No, I think it's very simplistic. I think it's simple. I learned early, early on, probably even prior to all this, I am not a submissive kind of person. I'm just not. Okay. I'm just not. And so one of the things that I actually enjoy being is obviously more dominant. I think for me, something that I would really enjoy diving into a little bit more is the dominant side of that, being more of a dominatrix, taking charge. Because I do like to take charge, and I do like to be in control. Shut up. It's probably more of a control issue. No, it doesn't.
It's probably more of a control issue than anything, but I do like being a little bit more dominant when it comes to play. And so that is something I truly would love to explore more. And Donna is more submissive. Yeah, I'm definitely a little more submissive. I enjoy for my... Within reason. Yeah, within reason. One of our rules, and we've discussed on the show that every couple has rules.
Right one of the ones That I Predominantly stand by the most And she agrees with me Is no choking We're not into the choking thing No that's fine If you're into it that's fine That's fine But that's new And that's the beauty of right the lifestyle right is everyone can have their boundaries like see to me um again i was raised in a very abusive environment as a child so for me the bdsm world is not something and choking is not something To me, I it disrespectful That's me So I see someone trying to choke Someone I care deeply about Which isn't in this room That's true We tell people You don't want to do that Trust me That's probably our only rule role yeah really well and if don if donna says no it's no that's correct it's plain and simple right um we ask guys don't do that if they do that she'll tell them no and you can see it in the video like we shoot we create content and she'll say no don't do that because she you.
Yes. Stop it. Okay. Oh, my God. You make it sound like you're so violent. And I just, I basically, like, some guy. You know I can be. Yes, but. I haven't been. Well, not to me. They stop. No, not to you. They'll never be to you. If a guy puts his hand around my neck, I'll just quickly take his hand. I'll just gently take it down to put on my chest or something. Right. So just it a little bit. But people who are into it, that's fine. That's great. That's your thing. Right. Okay. That's where this honestly comes from. Don enjoys anal. But some women don't enjoy anal. Yeah. It's not.
Like I said, for that one, it has to really be a day. He'll tell you. Special occasions. Not even that. Birthdays. It's a rarity, but it happens. And, you know, God bless him. He rolls with the punches, man, because... Well, I think if it's in your ass, it's you're rolling the punches. Like, I kind of am. I kind of am. That's true. Yeah. It's true. But, yeah. Yeah. But I'm saying we all have our own... Absolutely. We all have our own rules.
And everyone has to respect respect that That's part of the whole thing But Yeah I don't know I don't know where I was going with that I'm not sure where you're going with it There's a lot of things I don't know where you're going with things I'm not sure either just let him talk just let him ramble on I'm just picturing her I'm going to take him back to the home later on tonight just picturing her naked right now oh god it's all big blur I'm sitting here like I can't stand for the next 10 minutes oh god he's so full of crap oh it's good What about you?
Anything that I haven't tried yet That was the question Something What do you I mean That would have to be something I have to think about Nothing comes right no yeah no is there things you would love to see her do i think i think we've already discovered all that not that i wouldn't mind seeing it again nothing wrong with repeats because i yeah i found i found things that really really work for me And different people with a different style. Yeah, it works. It works real well. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. To me, the lifestyle is such an ever-evolving thing, right?
You can kind of go along and be doing kind of the same thing over and over. It's a buffet. It is a buffet. And then all of a sudden it shifts. No, it is a buffet. Right, and it changes. You can sit there and say, hey, today I want two guys. Today I want one guy with a big dick. Hey, tomorrow I want a BBC.
Hey, tomorrow I want a woman Hey, tomorrow I want, you know, a woman You know, whatever, you know Right And I think that's the one thing that we love She could sit there and say, hey, tomorrow I want Vince See She might say that But, you know, it wouldn't happen that way But, you know, it could You know, you never know You never know Never say never I'm pretty sure Stop it I'm talking about Donna Oh Sorry Yeah, I know No, it's And that's I think people The People who scoff At the lifestyle They don't realize How Opening Liberating Yeah, there you go That's a better word liberating the freedom that it gives you the um openness between a couple the strength in a relationship yes yeah it would be hard to describe that to someone that hasn't experienced it right yeah absolutely when i was younger and i was dating an old boyfriend and i hadn't how old was he well?
Well, I was like 15, 16. He was like 21. And I had this fantasy. I said, I want to be with another woman. Well, you would have thought I raped and murdered his mother. Oh, with your lesbian fantasies and bippa-dippa-dippa. Oh, my God. I was so. Bippa-dippa-dippa. Yeah. You know, yada. You know, he really, you know, made me feel really bad about myself He really degraded me It was not good Funny thing is, Mr.
Douchebag Ended up being a threesome with me and another woman All of a sudden, that was okay You're all brave saying now that he's dead Yeah, yeah, I am He died like 20 years ago But I was like, really? You hated it when I brought it to your attention how I wanted to do it. Teach him to go to sleep. Yes. No, I did not kill him in sleep. No, you have an alibi. I was married to you. But you still have an alibi. I know, I know. I was at the movies.
But it was like, I mean, come on mean and if i were to have a conversation like that with vince now about something that he may not be into he would not get all defensive and be like oh that's disgusting all right how you can think that way there's something wrong with you and all this kind of crap you'd be like well you know i'm not knock your socks off. You said you wouldn't eat that guy's ass. You know what? Don't kiss me afterwards. That's fine. That was fun. He really enjoyed that. And that's fine. I told you. You go for it. I made his little dream come true. He was a younger guy.
And he's like, I said, well, you know, the things you haven't done. He's like, what, 21, 22, whatever. 24. He's young, so he didn't have a lot of experience.
And he like well i've never done a 69 i'm like we can do that i'm 58 and haven't had my ass eaten and i don't want to i offered and i don't want to but he really enjoyed it i mean he's like playing with his balls and loving it oh god this feels so good hey you know what i was not objectionableable to me i mean i probably wouldn't eat any just anybody's ass but i wouldn't eat christy brinkley's ass but she tells me i can god damn restraining orders you know i i i'm willing i'm willing to you know go the extra mile for somebody that was you go. That was something I never did before.
So I was like, oh, yeah, why not? I've never done it. I've had it done. I've had it done. Well, I've eaten a woman's ass, but I've had it done. You know what? If there's testicles attached, I ain't going to do it. I don't have a problem with testicles. One way or another. I have a penis allergy. Oh, here we go. Yeah. He has a lot of allergies. I break out into violent punches. Oh, my God. Oh, my goodness. Okay, so. You're not a violent person. You're not a violent person. It's the mantra. Keep that up. I'll punch you. Yeah, sure. Oh, I'm so afraid of you. No. Oh, that is too funny.
So is it as bad as you had thought? The podcast? Yeah. You were a little nervous. I have to say I still am. Yeah. I mean, yeah. You're fine. Yeah. I enjoyed it, but yeah. But the butt scares me. Yeah, the butt. No, even at night, even're fine. Yeah, I enjoyed it, but yeah, it was. The butt scares me. Yeah, the butt. No, no, it's the rollercoaster ride, right? Sure. Sure, it was the anticipation going like, oh, my gosh, what's this going to be like? It's the same as if we all hung out without microphones. True. That's a good way to look at it, too. This is.
It really is, because there is always the fear. Listen, even when I'm hanging out with people without microphones I'm always afraid I'm gonna say something really stupid so now there's just that well just take your shirt and bra off and you know what everything goes and everything's fine I understand that it's like those nipples make me forget what I That's what I was thinking about. He's so easily distracted that. I didn't hear a word she said, but. Was she talking? All I remember is nipples. Even better. Even better.
No, I think it's, I think it's, that's again, one of the things that we've found that we love when we find people within the lifestyle that we can, even though we may never play with them, but we can simply just have these conversations. Like-mindedness. It is. It's one of the things that he talks about a lot, about being able just to have those conversations because you can't with your regular vanilla friends or family. Especially in today's world. Yes. Okay, I'm not going to get into politics or anything else. Yeah, I understand. But in today's world, everyone is so black and white.
I'll put it that way. Yeah. And it's like, you know what? The simple pleasures is what life's about. Okay. Agreed. Oh, I totally agree. Yeah. Totally. I think we killed this one. I think think we did too Anyway, we didn't do any commercials But whatever Spunk Loop, check them out And 50ShadesOfPleasure.com Check out the free magazine So the new one just came out We'll have to see if we can get you in the magazine Oh, there we go go. Okay. Okay. That'll be fun. I'll do it. So, thank you guys. No faces. No faces. For coming on. Yeah, no faces. We can definitely...
I want to thank everyone for listening. Thanks. Yes, thank you. Thank you for having us. Thank you very much. Hopefully this will not be your last time on the show. Well, that would be... We'll have to see if anyone invites us back. We're inviting you If anyone Donna, it's your show You're invited back Thank you so much This was wonderful It was wonderful to sit in Alright, have a great night, everybody Guys, oh,
