Mikki updates her fun as a New Swinger!

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Hi, this is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wife podcast. All right, well, Donna is not here at the moment, i have mickey in studio with me and uh donna is currently one of her little side jobs she does and uh so mickey happened to stop by and i said hey let's quick uh get you on air is that too loud for you still no i'm good oh okay how's everybody doing? All right. See, she's here. I'm making it up. So anyway, so when the last time Mickey was on, the first time Mickey was on, the only time she was on, she was just getting her toes wet into the lifestyle. It's true. Yeah. Yeah.

And now I'd like to say she's like completely submerged overhead touching bottom of the pool let's be conservative so coming from someone who uh eight months ago was we'll call it vanilla would you say it's safe yep very safe so So how do you feel now about being in the lifestyle? I think that, I don't know if I could ever really go back. You know, there's something very exciting about being in the lifestyle that I think if, you know, if you go back, it's boring or you're lacking or missing something.

Well, I, when times we had talked on the phone, I had said, nothing wrong with people who are monogamous. I'm not going to take anything away. If that's your thing, that's great. But you're probably not listening to the podcast. But the aspect of it's like going to the restaurant and ordering the same thing every time. Right, right. And is it because there's nothing else on the menu? Or they aren't open to a new menu?

Yeah I think well even when you're with somebody and I was actually talking to a friend of mine yesterday who I haven't talked to in a few years and she was explaining that her boyfriend is very jealous and everything else and she would love to do other things and um you know she says hey you know she goes what should I do I said I don't know what to tell you, you know, but I said, you know, you know, she says, Hey, you know, she goes, what should I do? I said, I don't know what to tell you, you know, but I said, you know, you know, she knows enough about me and what have you.

But the problem is it gets routine, you know, because when you're, you get comfortable with somebody and, and you'll notice like when you're in a relationship for so long that somehow the, I'll call it spark. It's not the spark, but the spontaneity, the originality, the, you know, it just kind of fades.

And that's where swinging is nice because even it might be the same fucking procedure, but that it's a different size or person or smell or taste or whatever right yeah it was nice for sure yeah the stranger effect no it's there's something really erotic about strange sex yeah so that's why i think you know there's a huge part of me that honors couples who are in this lifestyle because although they're probably deeply connected they can acknowledge what you're saying and they're open enough confident enough to you know keep their own couple excitement alive by having you know maybe a third party or another couple in the room or whatever experience outside of the relationship like donna and i do right you know like we talked about in the last one of the last podcasts i don't know when this one's going to air about donna and her hot dates right you know that it's someone that we both approve of and she gets to go out and have a date you know and if she wants to have sex with them they can if not that's up to them healthy, absolutely.

You know, and aside from the fact, you know, we live so much longer, we are healthier, so much more into our, as we, you know, become older, we have to, you know, keep reinventing and be progressive and reevaluate our own happiness and how we come by it, right? So I think if somebody truly loves you, they're willing to support your cause. Move the mic a little closer here. Hey, move the mic. You're okay. I'm good. Okay. Yeah, well, I mean, and there are people that are fine eating a meatloaf sandwich every day. They're fine. That's all I need to eat. That's great. God bless you.

But there's some of us like, no, today I want, you know, turkey on rye or, you know, or whatever. You know, I mean, I could use some other weird analogy, but. No, but I mean, essentially, you know, I think with different people, you're going to spark something different inside of you as well. So there is that feedback that you get and or that newness. And, you know, for me, it was like just a huge part of it was, you know, the social norm factor and what's acceptable and what isn't. And who sits at? Thank you.

just a huge part of it was, you know, the social norm factor and what's acceptable and what isn't. And who sets that? Exactly. You know, who actually, it's like fashion. Who sets the fucking rules for fashion? It's like, fuck you, I'll wear bell bottoms till I die. I mean, never mind.

And as conservative as I was, I was, you know, it feels, I think for everyone too, right right it feels good to break the rules sometimes so do you feel a little more alive i feel a lot more alive yeah yeah i meet great people you know and you know with a common interest and good intentions wanting you know the same people they just want to meet other great people and have these experiences that maybe previously were just shunned within their relationship or they didn't get to experience.

Well, I've run into it, and I'm sure you have or will, where they're like, oh, my partner just doesn't have interest in sex anymore um or it's just gotten real routine and boring i'm looking for something um again and i used the phrase with you the other night on the phone you kind of liked it uh you know the fucking forget yeah yeah there's something cool about i mean i always had like one of my little fantasies has always been um you can't do it nowadays with security cameras but like you get on the elevator and you're on this elevator and this you know pretty woman gets in the elevator and it just starts you know nothing all of a sudden she hits a stop button let's pretend the alarm doesn't go off and if there's no cameras in it that's what I'm saying and all of a sudden she just comes over and starts kissing you next thing you know you're fucking in this elevator you know you get done she you know as you're getting dressed she hits the button off and it goes she gets off at one floor you get off at your floor and you don't know who she was yeah you don't know anything there's no names exchange there's no anything and it's just like to me that whole or another erotic thing for me was always to, like, if, let's say, I'll use you as a scenario, okay?

Like, I said, okay, I'm going to do something special for you. So I'm going to blindfold you. So funny, I was just going to say that was going to be my example. But bring somebody over and let them fuck you. You have fun. You stay blindfolded. And then they leave.

Then you take the you walk around you don't know is this someone you know is this someone you don't know as you walk around a store or whatever you could look around it's like oh that's a nice look I wonder could that have been him yeah could that have been him you know I did that once for Donna a few years back and it was like really erotic for she's She's like, I have no idea who it was. And you know, again, you could be, you know, buying a car in the car deal and a guy walks by you. It could have been him. You don't know. Exciting for sure. Yeah. It's not knowing. Yeah.

It's, um, but I'm very much, you know, turned on by my, by my site. So at some point I'd want to know. Well, but that's part of the tease. You know, it's part of the eroticism of it all is, you know, you want to know, but you don't. And, um, you could have just essentially made me a lesbian. No, it would have been a guy.

I know, you know, we'll, we'll talk about that if you're expanding in your bisexual area or not yet you know it's the other thing too is for some reason now because of my situation and I'm so grateful for my situation but um being free to explore I hear my friends, you know, married and just having the toughest time, you know, life pressures and, and we're all overachieving, you know, for taking care of, um, our aging parents, taking care of children, whatever it is. And it's like, and, and people and their sexual lives or their personal lives seem to be coming last.

And I don't want to say I see a lot of women that are, you know, using sexual, their sexual prowess or their, you know, their pussy as a weapon.

But it's definitely the stress in life between people's relationships contribute to a lot of unhappiness sure sure we've talked about that before um how men think that like i should come home and i should be able to get sex whenever i want and they totally forget that the woman you know she might be working a full-time job she's taking care of the kids she's doing the laundry she's cleaning the house she's cooking you dinner you come home from work grab a drink sit down eat dinner and everything else meantime she's doing dishes making sure the homework is done and this is not everyone's case but but there's a lot of it and then they're like well why can't i get laid because she's fucking exhausted dude come on you know get your head out of your ass i mean that might be a turn on too but whatever i'm not judging but um yeah and and it it and and due to that and it's not related to swinging but that's where people forget that you're in a partnership truly and like the women i know and i know quite a few women um and in my networking events it's it's they speak on that specifically you know that they're exhausted they're always putting too much on their plates um and they don't you know outsource to their husband because then in the end they have to redo it.

You know, they're not happy with the job. Do it once, not twice, yeah. Exactly. Yeah, and again, I'm actually on the side of women to, like, you know, I mean, Donna and I, as much as we can, try to divide shit up. You know, like she doesn't cook. I do all the cooking. She's supposed to do dishes. Anymore, like 80% of the time, I do dishes. Not a big deal. It's only two of us. I'm not, like, it's not a ton of dishes. You know, and stuff like that. But she does the laundry and stuff like that. We help. Do you want me to get you, like, a flogger for her? She has it. Oh, okay. Yeah. Good, good.

She loves it. I don't use it. I don't strike anybody unless I have to. But anyway, that's... Donna, it's your turn. Yeah, yeah. That's next weekend. Unfortunately, you can't make it. That's right. But, you know, she's looking forward to next weekend. So she's going to be a little tramp. There's going to be 10 different guys there. It's more of a BDSM party? Yes.

it's not yeah this is not like you would see like where it's not a bdsm party to the point where like you see like these clubs were and actually i used to rent my studio to a true bdsm group um and and they were diehard fuckers i mean they're drawing blood on each other and they're doing sticking needles through people's skin and yeah, it was fucked up shit. I never actually heard of the needles. Oh, there's needle play. There's fire play. Well, they'll fucking take a little, a big Q-tip and it's on fire and they rub it over the skin and stuff. Yeah, there's some fucked up shit.

I've heard about the wax play. Wax play, yeah. With the wax and the ice, you know, it's... Mm-hmm. Yeah. I've seen that too. Not into it've seen that too not into it but i've seen it um this is more people that uh they'll do the flogging which according to donna when it's done right it's like getting a good massage um there's not really like a lot of pain or anything that you know there'll be some remote bondage type It's, in my opinion, I mean, they're great people. They're awesome people.

It's BDSM light from what I've seen and experienced, not experienced like where I've been part of it, but photographed and, you know, videotaped in the past. I mean, I've seen some fucking sick fucks, you know? But if you're into it, you're're not a sick fuck i'm just talking but anyway so um yeah this is more like people who enjoy being bound being blindfolded um not so much pain as it is stimulation i guess i would say Yeah, and you had spoken about that woman who was suspended in the air. I think for sure, you know, for some reason, I don't know if it was like how well.

It wasn't at that party. That was a conversation we had off air.

Real quick, what she's talking about is I photographed a woman who paid one of the top tires tires in the country he actually suspended her he did a lot of different bondage ties but at the end he suspended her from the ceiling in her basement into like some kind of a rope basket and she was completely bound no one touched her she was in somehow she explains she goes into like a trance of some sort and was in a pleasure zone, and she's not a squirter, but she sat there and just watched pussy juice drip from her pussy, no one touching her in any way.

She said she had like 20 orgasms just hanging there, and she doesn't remember any of it. She just remembers being in like a very pleasurable dream. Like you wake up from a dream like yeah okay you know i mean i was looking the floor but that's a different story so but anyway that was that's the story yeah i got you way to be there yeah i do my part yeah so for me i'm open you know um just like, I never would, I never would have thought I've been here. So I don't know how far I could go or, you know, what else is. Oh, you've only barely scratched the surface, dear. Yes.

So, so I'm excited to, to kind of be your sensei and lead you down this path, you know? Yeah.

So there's a lot more things um you know that i could definitely try nowhere near i again just the apprentice i should say that i am well you're gonna find um in this process that you know you you experience something it's sort of like i guess i'll say like people who start experimenting drugs like okay you did this like oh wow that's right great that's great that's great, it's sort of like, I guess I'll say like people who start experimenting with drugs, like, okay, you did this and like, oh, wow, that's really great. That's great. That's great. And it's like, what's the next high?

You and Donna were the gateway drug. No, we never, never pressured you or said anything to you. You were friends for over 10 years before. Yeah.

You came to me and started going, can I ask you some questions about swinging okay you know so it was that's where it started for you and then really you know gave you some pointers and then next thing I know you're like well I've been doing this and that and him and them and so what do you think your next evolution might be um do you have something like that's kind of in the back of the brain that you'd like to try yeah it's that blindfold you know i was right there with you on that come when you brought up that topic um and i said this uh I'm glad they set that up for you.

And I'll assure you it's not me. Thank you. Um, no, I just was speaking with someone about it last night and it's, you know, a problem of mine where, um, you know, I, I have a lot of control in my life and And I'm, you know, a team lead for a team of mine at work.

And so I tend to always i'm taking the reins and it's exactly what i the opposite is what i want right in the bedroom but for some reason it's just my personality i end up not serving myself well um i think i need like a very dominant dom well if that makes sense or someone who can yeah the people at this party they don't call it bdsm okay they call it power exchange okay okay and and we want to do it don and i tried a different podcast a couple years ago and they were on it it was a great show but we didn the podcast far enough. So we're going to get them back on and talk about it.

And they talk about how it's BDSM but not. They consider it a power exchange where you basically relinquish your power to them with a trust. You have to have a trust that they're not going to do something you don't want. And, again, that's all established before anything is done. You have a conversation. They establish what your tolerance level is. You know, they have what they call their green, yellow, red, you know, like a stoplight. You know, let's say he's flogging your ass. He'll flog it and you go, okay, that's good. That's green.

And you'll hit a little harder and a little harder and you go, oh, that's yellow. It's getting a little too much. You know, or if he goes where it hurts, you go red. It's like, okay, I can't go that hard. He, and he wants to know where the yellow and the green are, because sometimes you want to inflict a little bit of discomfort, but then back it off and give comfort. Right. Truly. You know, but you don't want to get to a point where it's like, fuck you, that hurt. You know, once you untie me, I'm beating your ass.

So, um, and again, I mean, it's interesting that power exchange thing and it's very common. I mean, I've met numerous dominatrixes over the years through photography and video and the adult community. And they'll tell you most of their clients are judges and are attorneys or police chiefs and shit like that. And it's not about sex. It's not about generally during one of these BDSM type sessions, it's not, no one's getting fucked. You might have an orgasm, but you're not getting fucked. It's about that releasing of control.

and that will make people have orgasms on their own because it's such a surge of pleasure that you know your your endorphins or whatever being released by what they're doing to you and you mentally go into a different space sorry my eyes are rolling back is that a good eyes rolling back or a bad eye? I just, I'm a good listener. Yeah. I noticed your legs are getting a little tighter together here. Someone's getting a little aroused maybe. No, but I see it. You know, I really see it. I get it. Yeah. So you asked me where am I going next. Like, maybe I'm going there. Maybe. It's worth a try.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah, we can, you know, when you're ready, you know, make that happen for you. Yeah. You know, like I said, Donna had that for her birthday back in August where, you know, now she knew these guys. It was trusted.

But, you know, we had her blindfolded and, you know, they established the levels of what they can do what they can't do and um during that little session for it was like almost it was an hour and a half almost two hours she had i don't know how many orgasms and you know yeah um for me with you know that any event i don't want to be the youngest or you know i don't want to be in the limelight truly well the limelight depends on I'll see you next time. I don't want to be the youngest or I don't want to be in the limelight, truly.

Well, the limelight depends on any time, even if you were not the youngest necessarily. This is a group of people that they have these parties once every couple of months. So you'd be new blood. It doesn't matter if you're older than them. You're new blood. I don't want to be new blood. You know, but that's another uncomfortable level for you is being center of attention. I wouldn't say uncomfortable. I mean, I think in my work life, I'm center of attention, right? Because I have to give presentations. But I don't want to be... Sounds like, starts with... I guess, yes, center of attention.

I don't want to be, like, um... But in a way, look at it this way. When you're around older people, it's different, right? I don't want to come off as a threat. There were older women there. Yeah, yeah, you're not a threat. I know, but... I mean, again, no offense to these people at this party, you know, like the last party, Donna's birthday party, you know. But Donna is in that age group with them. They're all. Donna's hot. And that's what I'm saying is the women aren't necessarily in the same shape Donna's in. I'll put it that way. Oh, for sure. Okay. Woman. Well, anyway, but. So, but it's.

But in a way, look at it at it okay we talked about the power exchange here a minute ago in a way while you've released some power or a lot of power you're now keeping a little bit that you're being envied by some i don't want to be envied you know i just want to have a good time well and you would be having a good time yeah and you can't you can't focus on when that's happening to you you have to look at again i'm speaking from somebody who doesn't do it um you have to look at it as being selfish you know like some of these people actually have set, um, doms and set subs, like they collared Donna.

Okay. Like to the gentleman at this party, um, when he, when she showed up for the first time before her birthday party, before that, he had a bunch of collars on the table. He says, pick one. So I actually, you know, had his Vince, you pick it since you're giving me your wife, you know, Thank you. that he had a bunch of collars on the table. He says, pick one. So I actually, you know, had, says, Vince, you pick it. Since you're giving me your wife, you know, you pick it. So I picked a nice collar. So when she goes there, she has to put this collar on. And they're collars he has.

So now, essentially, when she goes to his house, she's almost like his property or responsibility. That's hot. Yeah. Yeah. And, um, you know, so it's his job to assure her safety and her pleasure. Oh, it's a big responsibility. Yeah. Cause if not, I'll kill him, you know? So, uh, you know, it's just that it, it's, it's a unique situation. Um, I can only speak to it because I get – But you were saying about the type of professions that people come from.

Well, people in general who are very controlling in their lives generally are big into the BDSM thing because we've talked, you and I, about some of these guys who want to be pegged, okay? And some of the people that have approached Donna, like, oh, I'll be in a video. Can you peg me? They are people in a power position. Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with that. No, I, well, not to me. Yeah, to them, no. But it's the irony right now. Not my gig. Right. You know, it's an exit only for me, but okay. Everybody deserves to have what they need or what they want. Sure.

As long as you're hurting someone and everyone's of age. Right. I've met two lawyers. We didn't, we did not go far past a coffee. It was just different personalities. But you could see that, you know, they also wanted also wanted i think to just let go of that control i'm not the woman for them but um yeah it totally at this point you're not yeah you never know you don't know for sure you know um but uh yeah it's um Well, even being blindfolded in a non-BDSM way, you have to be able to relinquish complete trust. That's a tough one, yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, Donna has done that one time.

She brought another girl over years ago and blindfolded me. And, you know, the three of us had sex. It was a lot of fun, but, you know, I would like to have kept a blindfold on and not known who it was. Really? Okay. But I recognized your voice for one and two, it was kind of getting rather wild and the mask came off so I could see who it was. And so then we just continued.

So, uh, you know, but it was erotic because don and i did a show about this about the was it five or seven senses whatever it is um when you take away one the visual which is a big thing for me being a photographer and everything else i'm very visually driven okay so you take away that you rely on other. You rely on smell all of a sudden. You smell things. Hopefully they're good. You know, touch. And again, let's say your hands are tied. You know, tied out. Let's say you're, okay, take you and I tie you down on the bed. Put your hands out to your side, not your feet, just your hands.

And I put a blindfold on you. And I tell you, I'm bringing in a gentleman, and he's going to please you. So now you can't see what he looks like. You can't grab him. You can't touch him. But you feel his hands all over you. You feel him kiss you, but you don't know what he looks like. You feel his, you know, dick rubbing against you and everything else, and you do what you can to try to, you know, he takes the power away from you. Like he's rubbing his dick. You should do that. You tell me when, I'll arrange it. I feel like you're selling me on this. I did it to Donna. I had a guy come in.

I can, you know, and he, and what we had set it up to be was the first session, we called him Mr.

Mystery Man, was she could not touch him with her hand and she was blindfolded and he came in and he you know stripped her down and was talking to her and I videotaped the whole thing but without showing his face the entire time so she could see it afterwards and he was not allowed to fuck her the first visit oh my gosh so yeah no she was like trying she was like gyrating trying to get his dick to slide because he's like rubbing his cock over her clit and everything else and she's like you know she's she got to suck his dick but she couldn't use her hand I mean she was bound and stuff and then um you know she's gyrating trying to slide his dick in and everything else and then he you know after about an hour of that he leaves and then i untied her and took her blindfold off and then maybe you took her to the bedroom well we were in the bedroom already yeah no then yeah of course then i finished up yeah you know but she was like oh my fucking god that was so hot so hot and we were supposed to set up a second visit for him where he could fuck her but something happened he was traveling and then we just never touched base again so but yeah if you want to do that but i'll set that up for you okay that sounds good you know um you know it's we do have the waterproof proof.

Yeah. We'll put the sheets on there. Not a problem. Not a problem, yeah. So, but... So, yeah. Good thing I'm sitting down. But anyway, so... And I'm going to ask you to verify something. We talked about my birthday gift you gave me. Okay. So just verify that that did happen. How's that? I'm not going to ask you for particulars. Okay. Donna wanted to really share that story because she thought it was erotic. So. It was. Yeah. Yep, I live it.

Yeah, so so the thing is like you were saying what's the ff i can't forget it i can't forget oh my gosh i that's what i don't kind of want to do in a sense because i love there's gonna be there's gonna be people oh no no no the fucking forget isn't like you're not gonna. The fuck and forget is there's going to be a guy or guys or group or team, whatever, that you will have sex with, let's say, four times. And we've discussed this. And then it's like, OK, it's the same thing now. Move on. So I fucked him. I could forget adding him back into the routine.

Not that he wasn't great or wasn't fun, but it's like, okay, let's see what else is out there now. I tried, I tried combination platter five. I'm going for combination platter seven now. You know, that's, that's what I meant is, um, cause there's been plenty of women that, um, at the swinger parties we used to have and stuff that I played with and everything else. And they were fun and everything else, I never really got their names and never got their profile names so I could look them up and try to hook up again. It was just one of those things like, okay, it was fun, and move on.

There's models I shot that I played with, and I never shot them again.

It wasn't like it was just didn't have a project to use him on or whatever it was never an issue um but uh yeah it was always you know i mean it's weird when i go back through my directories of all my photography i see a name like who the fuck is that i open it up and i'm like oh i forgot oh yeah she was fun you remember something yeah well i didn't remember her name and i see the picture it's like oh i forgot i did that photo shoot and it's like then i go flash back a little deeper it's like oh yeah we were at this place and yeah oh yeah that was yeah so you know i always think like the next day too right the flashbacks are so good i have a pretty good imagination um and orreating reseeing i don't know what it is but it's it reverberates right uh so i love those flashbacks yeah see and now here's an exciting part here's an exciting part for you potentially if i set this up for some guy to come over and fuck you it's just like i gotta go i gotta qualify him i You know I'm weird.

See, here's the whole thing. He wouldn't know who you are either. Why? Because it would just be somebody we know that you don't know. Come over. You'd be blindfolded so you wouldn't see him. Who knows? Maybe I blindfold him. I don't know. Then who is it good for? That's what I'm saying. You have to use your other sensory organs to, you know. Are men good like that? What's that? Are men good like that? Oh, fuck yeah. Yeah? A guy kissing you, touching your body? Oh, he's there. Well, he's not seeing. But it's erotic. It's erotic.

I mean, I'm not saying he has to be blindfolded but you know are you filming this no why what right now or are you talking about this videos like this stream this uh this setup whatever you call it no i mean yeah no if you want to we're both out of our element yeah no can definitely videotape it. That's up to you. I'm still waiting to, you know, get some new pictures of you, which we'll do soon, and, you know, trying to get you keep looking to try to find someone to fuck you on video. Yeah. I could find guys to, you know, have sex with you, but you want to qualify them, so. I do.

See, do see that's where that's when that's the next step for you actually is your qualification qualifying becomes less it's just like okay they're a good looking guy okay they're decent nice guy that's all i need you know okay but you know you have to do what's right for you well no because for me in my you know in the um normally you know i want to like somebody I want to be able to laugh with somebody. Sure. But this is a different agenda. Yeah. Well, again, when you're shooting content, like Donna does. Right. Yeah, we have a minor relationship with them. They have to be a decent guy.

They can't be an asshole. You know, they have to understand, here to understand here's the rules and then it's like okay yeah well that where this is more just an experience yeah it's more like two people both interested in having sex and they get along within reason you know don't have to you know send christmas cards to each other or anything you know if you want to, you can, um, you know, and let's, you know, send Christmas cards to each other or anything, you know. If you want to, you can. Right, right. You know, and let's go make each other happy. Yeah.

You know, it's sort of like the friends with benefit thing, you know. It's one of those aspects of just, yeah, it's, I mean, there are going to be people who tie emotion into stuff like that but you try not to you know right i mean so it's you know i mean i'm at that point in my life too it's like no i'm just looking for you know have fun and then it's like okay hey talk to you later you know I've got enough problems in my life so but It's like, okay, hey, talk to you later. You know, I've got enough problems in my life.

So, but, so the, yeah, so you would consider to let me set that up for you? Control, the control issue is back. Yeah, I will. I will consider it, yeah. Okay. No, no, I want to. So that's a yes. Okay. All right. Thank you. the control issues back uh yeah i will i'll consider it yeah okay no no i want to so that's a yes okay all right well we'll keep you posted on the podcast i want you to know how it goes see when we can arrange it yeah maybe we could put up some photos put a video up people could buy it and take a look at it. That's true, too, yeah. Yeah. And, you know, we'll have to...

I'm, like, rolling in my mind with the idea. Okay, so if I tie you up, would you rather be tied up to be fucked in a missionary position or doggy style? I like both. I can't lose.

Okay, well, tie you up to a point where you can flip around then yeah good idea even better yeah okay or we do something with where you can actually have some little bit of freedom where you could even jump on top i'm gonna find my freedom for sure yeah all right sure okay so all right well we'll have to arrange that so so you've really been embracing which is a good i i find it exciting as long as we've known each other now 10 12 years whatever it's been you know how you've you know came out of your cocoon yep a sexual butterfly. Truly. I'm going to go change my panties after this show. Wow.

Can I buy them? I hear there's market for that. Yes, there is. Yes, there is. You also have some other things to show off soon. What's that? Oh. So, again, if you haven't, check out MILF Mickey. I think that's what it is, on Instagram. MILF Mickey? Something like that. I don't know. I haven't been there in a little bit. Because I have the pictures, so I don't have to go there. Let me find my Instagram. Definitely got to check her out. Is it? I think it might be Hot Milf Mickey. Let me see. I don't even know what I'm doing. I'm all flustered thinking about you have wet panties now. Let's see.

I don't have my glasses. It's Hot Milf Mickey.

So Hot Milf, M-I-K-k-i so check it out so and you'll see some really nice pictures and there'll be some more coming hopefully soon and then we'll you know talk about where you might be able to see some action stuff of her which i hope i can hold this camera steady dun dun ten for me or for you for me or for you the question's gonna be how long can you keep that blindfold on I never met a rule I didn't want to break so yeah yeah okay so it's not a rule so something you have to do it feels like a rule you know it's a blindfold it's not around your head you're not supposed to touch it.'s not a rule, it's just something you have to do.

It feels like a rule, you know, it's a blindfold. It's not around your head, you're not supposed to touch it. It's a rule. We'll see. I mean, I could get you a hood that has your eyes sealed up so you have to take the hood off and I wouldn't. Oh, no. So, anyway, all right. Well, I know you have to roll soon, so we'll wrap this up. But hopefully this will get you on the podcast more. And with Donna, too. We want to do a show. We were going to do it, if Donna was here, is talking about why you should consider fucking mature women. And again, I classify mature women anyone over 35. Yeah.

But we're not going to talk about it now. No, we're not. We're going to wait until Donna's here and the three of us or whoever can, you know. But it's been a pleasure. Yeah. It's always fun having you around. So definitely one of my best friends. Truly. 12 years. Anyway. Yeah. So you need to get out more. So thanks all for listening and we'll talk to you soon. Thanks for having me.