In this episode of the Hot Wife Podcast, hosts Donna Lynn and Vince explore various themes surrounding relationships, intimacy, and the evolution of sexuality. They engage with listener stories, discuss the impact of technology on dating and swinging, and reflect on personal experiences from their past. The conversation highlights the growing acceptance of diverse sexualities and the empowerment of women in expressing their sexuality in today's society.TakeawaysThe podcast aims to discuss relationships and intimacy openly.Listener engagement is encouraged through sharing stories and experiences.Different perspectives in relationships can enrich understanding.The evolution of sexuality has led to greater acceptance of diverse identities.Technology has significantly changed the landscape of dating and swinging.Women today are more empowered to express their sexuality.The internet has made it easier for people to connect and explore their desires.Personal experiences from the past can provide valuable insights into current dynamics.The conversation reflects on how societal norms around sexuality have shifted over time.The hosts emphasize the importance of open dialogue about sexual experiences.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/hot-wife-podcast-and-the-swinger-lifestyle--5343522/support. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Speaker1: Welcome to the Hot Wife Podcast, where we dive into discussions about relationships, intimacy, and everything in between. Before we begin, we want to make it clear that the views expressed on this podcast are solely those of the host and guests, and should be taken as opinions, not professional or medical advice. Additionally, we remind all listeners that this podcast is intended for adults over the age of 18. Unauthorized rebroad your husband i don't know oh you're always wonderful okay most of the time wonderful okay sometimes wonderful when i'm not around i'm wonderful oh that's what it is no that's not even true okay you are very good to me i'm very lucky to have you there okay i have witnesses oh yeah i know now everybody everybody knows hey we heard uh from the um the one gentleman talked about how he likes he gets aroused and he listens to the show and sits here and listens to it in the nude he's new yes apparently yes yes but apparently enjoys listening to it yeah i said he got he sent that email to you but i was getting one it goes to the email that yeah i tend to answer than anything. Well, then we'll go back and forth. So I'm surprised that one went to you. But yeah, he's been having a lot of escapades, like hanging out with other couples, nudging. He said he had a sexy weekend coming up. Yeah, yeah. So this past weekend, got to go hang out with some sexy, naked friends. Yeah, he emailed me the same thing, saying they were having dinner together. It was really cool, because she reached Gobern. I hope he's not saying, I got to hang out naked with a bunch of really ugly, nasty, disgusting people. You could say that. It wouldn't be an erotic weekend, I don't think. Well, you know what? Like you said, beauty is in the eye beholder. Ugly goose did a bone. And whatever, but that's always fun. So no, we encourage people to reach out to us, info at hotwifepodcast.com. Share your stories, your thoughts, show ideas, things you'd like to have us potentially talk about that we always find that interesting. Oh, yeah. We need all the input because there's so many people that have had different experiences in this in swimming lifestyle and different bumps and you know they may see from a whole different angle yeah we've even gotten emails from people that were like oh my god i love that show it's a topic that always had curiosity about well if you have a curiosity email info at hotwifepodcast.com and let us know and we'll try to do a show to the best of our feeble ability limited ability yeah you know we'll do it we'll do an ai search on it and see what it says we should say that's what people should consider us as an artificial intelligence well we even say in the beginning, we're not medically, you know, this is not a medical, we're not professionals. This is not a medical show. We are authorities of nothing. It's just our experiences and then talking to more and more. Speaker2: Our opinion, too.
Speaker1:
And our opinion, I agree. Intelligence really means nothing. Absolutely, it doesn't mean anything. But everybody's different opinions. I'd like to hear some, like, different input because our experience isn't everybody's experience. We've had other couples come in that love the whole party atmosphere that we were kind of like, eh, did that work for us? Yeah. But you know, it's just cool hearing things from a different perspective that we're, we're only used to having like one experience and just because of situations or whatever. And these people come in from a whole different angle and it's like, that's freaking that's i like to hear what other people have done and what they thought was good and what their experiences were and that's it's it's nice especially if they're really positive it's like you know it's good if people are connecting and giving each other pleasure and they're experiencing maybe some deep dark secrets of their er erotic subconscious. You know what I'm saying? Okay, sure. It's such a great platform. You have like weird fetishes that, I mean, like stupid. Speak for yourself. Like we knew guys that had that whole foot fetish thing and they couldn't really express it the way they wanted to. And then, of course, there's, you know, people, of course, coming out of the closet and being gay and all those other fetishes that I can't even name because there's so many. And this gives you a platform to, to some degree, experience and role play and experience that for yourself so you know what you want in a very, I would say it's kind of a non-threatening environment. Would you say it's pretty non-threatening? Yeah. Accepting. You do have, yes. I think whatever your turn-ons are, don't have to be in everyone's wheelhouse. Right, right. like you know at the parties we go to to the best of my knowledge um almost everyone there except for the women are straight but i'm sure there are a couple bi guys whether they actually call it out or not right exactly or if i don't know if they go act on it while they're there i i i don't uh things. Yeah, I don't know if they have a policy for that. It shouldn't matter. No, I would think in that environment, as an example. Because I'm going both ways. You know, it wouldn't be fair for women. Oh, it's okay for women to be bi, but not for men. I mean, come on. Yeah, I agree. But I think men are a little more hesitant to um express that if they are that way um in a group oh yeah i think i don't know it's still a pretty accepting environment i agree but i do think that there is some hesitation for there are some guys when i talk to them outside the party party or in other circumstances i was kind of getting a bi vibe for them and for me that's fine we've even had playmates here who was told us he was openly bi'd with other men we have a few guys that you played with that were bi but right you know i kind of dropped hints that i'm not no they're and they're really cool about that. You know, I always saw me kind of dropped hints that i'm not no they're and they're really cool about that you know yeah i always thought i'd be kind of um erotic no don't say uh no i wouldn't mind being with uh two by guys if they do some light kissing okay yeah me don't include me no no me bring a by guy over and he and i jump your bones. Nope, nope, not hot. Vince said no Vince ever. Said this Vince never. I can't say no Vince, but this Vince. My husband Vince ever. This Vince never said that. But, I mean, I had, remember, when I was in high school, I had that. I don't remember. Yeah, I've told you a story about my buddy from high school school he was he was definitely gay absolutely gay but he hadn't come out of the closet yet and it was like a whole big gross that we had to go through like after high school with him experimenting and I think I'm the only woman he ever fucked at that time I made sure like dude I know that you're fucking gay don't even tell me you're not I mean I even questioned him like you're a good looking guy you have a great shape you know you got a nice dick what the why the fuck don't you have a girlfriend oh here's what he said oh i'm waiting for the right one it's like dude dude just own up to it but we're like 18 so what do we know okay i mean i was going to say something i won I mean, I was going to say something, but I won't.
Speaker2:
Okay.
Speaker1:
No, I was going to say something about today's environment where they're talking about kids. No. Oh, they know it four years ago. No. At 18, you are... 18, you have a better idea. At 18, you kind of know what you want. You know which way your door swings. I'll put it that way. You might know earlier. Yeah, your door could swing both ways. I think you, you know, I'm still, I'll put it that way you might know both ways i think you yeah you know i'm still i really don't think you grow into your sexual prime till 25 oh i agree but you do a lot of dab oh i okay i did a lot of stupid dabbling and things i thought i might like with your sex life back then was like the mall. You went into every fucking store.
Speaker2:
Yeah, you know, I can honestly say, and I know we may not even get to our topic tonight. We're not even getting to our topic. Yeah, well, here, this is a cool one. I was high school, just out of high school,
Speaker1:
so I was probably 17-ish, but everybody at the party was 17 or younger because it was just us, and we all, I wore a corset, and my gay buddy, he wore corsets. And it was like, it was a little orgy going on. It was actually pretty cool. At 17? 17, yeah. There was like my gay buddy. I can say his name's Chris. There's only seven Chris's in the world, so I'm sure they'll know exactly who he was. Yeah, well, now he's in trouble. yeah total trouble but he was like hot for this guy only two of those chrises are probably gay right so now it's narrowed down to narrow down so but i lived on the east coast and he's outed but like he it was just um i guess you know if there would have been a swing community back then like when we were like 21 and back then but had to get on to swing lifestyle what we could have oh my god we've been such sluts oh my god we but it would have been like it would have been really awesome i think i would have been pretty incorrigible i don't know i'm kind of glad I wasn't available. I mean, think about that. You know, I mean, okay. I graduated in 84. Right. High school. So what the world was like sexually back then was very sexually open. Yeah, pretty much. I mean, AIDS killed the whole fucking thing. I know. You're so pissed at AIDS, aren't you? All that free love, and I get old enough to enjoy some of that, and whatever happened, they came out with AIDS. It just ruined it. All of a sudden, everything, legs shut. You just feel like the whole universe was against you? There was a loud thunder of thighs getting slammed shut. Yeah, in the early 80s, though, I was very well miscuous very just like the 70s yeah 90s well what are you trying to say no i think it was worse back then because i was with chris and his boyfriend at the time and it was like the three of us was doing threesomes like all the time like we worked at um can i say say I worked at Denny's? We better all of us work night shifts. There's like three of them open. I know, I know, but that's almost true. You're not bashing Denny's. You're telling where you worked. You're not saying anything derogatory about Denny's. No, just that we worked. Fine cup of coffee. Very, very good coffee. I did not. The food wasn't bad. It was, it was pre-packaged crap. It was expensive diner food. Yeah, pretty much i love diner food well there you go anyway yeah the coffee was enough of a plug for denny's but the thing is we were graveyard shift so we were we were just awful and again like every time we watched the movie waiting with um ryan reynolds and and the kids smoking uh doing whippets in the fucking cooler and smoking pot wherever behind the that was us man we didn't like pass out in the cooler but i mean we were partying at least you don't remember passing out no no but it was like the three of us had this sexual thing going we were at denny's i swear to god i probably fucked a couple of the i'm sure you say this on air i probably fucked a couple of the, I can't call them chefs, cooks. It was like me and Chris, and then I had a girlfriend there. God, I can't believe I'm smelling my guts. There was a girl, a hot girl there. Was your purse just like a big condom box? Something like that. But then, well, see, Diana started working there. She was a cute little thing. I have some pictures of her and i that my old boyfriend albie took okay of the three of us like the two of us messing around he just took pictures i think i dig them up and we started having a thing but she had this more dominant girlfriend terry so it was like this weird sexual fucking craziness going on at denny's i'm glad you brought that to an end when it came to us i was 18 vince it was a long time ago i was 18 i hadn't even gotten in the college yet so it was that summer it was crazy i mean it was like my sexual i don't i don't know man it was like awakening awakening yeah because chris and i were uh the whole role-playing thing we went and saw the rocky horror picture show which at the time with you know uh um tim curry with being very trans well transsexual now you'd look at him and he came i mean the whole thing was so sexual he's wearing the corset no yeah it's stockings and the whole garter belt thing And like, mean like chris just like latched onto that and he and he still was telling me oh i'm waiting for the right girl to come on like dude you are gay that is okay sorry getting a hard on over tim carrey dressed like uh oh he was hot what was that character's name frankenfurter frankenfur Frankenfurter. Okay. And then I was Magenta, who was the maid who fucked her brother, Riff Ratt. I don't remember who. So you got more into that than I did. Oh, my. But for us, it was like, yeah, we were, God, this is young lust. So, yeah, we were still like not even in college yet. It was that summer. But you were over 18. I was over 18-ish. Well, back in those days, I could go into the Jersey bars because I was 18. Yeah. So— Ducked 14. Yeah, I always had to have ID because, you know, it was—whatever. But, you know, it was, like, a whole sexual awakening. I guess what I'm trying to get at is there has been a platform back then when I was 18. Holy fuck. Social media has changed everything. I mean, you know, back when I had the first concept of looking into swinging, there was no websites. No. Internet didn't really exist. You had to go to the adult bookstores and they had like newsprint magazines that came out like bi-weekly or something like that that you take ads out in and everything else oh yes they had numbers you could call and leave a message for an ad for so and so like for real i always thought it was like bullshit i the fuck's this? It's some kind of scam, but. I don't know. At the time, my now ex-wife, you know, I mean, that's how I tried to get her introduced. And it was just, the problem was the process through the magazines back then was going to take too long. Right, right. You know, and I knew for me to get, see if my ex would be interested, you had to hit while the iron was hot. And so I wound up, you know, one of those things like brought a friend home, got drunk. I knew she was attracted to him. He's a good looking guy. Right. Got drunk and then made a proposition that she knew I kind of wanted to get into swinging.
Speaker2:
Right, right.
Speaker1:
So, you know, I made it made it you know we got drunk and i say why don't you go sit on his lap she didn't argue oh that makes sense you're doing it the kind of the old-fashioned way you know meeting you know having friends and trying to get you know things you know. I mean, the same thing kind of happened with the guy you used to work with. Oh, yes. That was before you were really into it. Yeah. And it was one of those things, you know, he came over, was hanging out. You got inebriated, he got inebriated. I see a common problem here. You were dressed slutty. Oh, yeah, I had planned on fucking him for sure. We had talked about it. It was very, very erotic because it's very taboo. I mean, you're the dirty secret when you're in the office. Well, he was younger than you, he was your boss, you know. Yeah. He was an attractive man. Right. You know. Right. But, yeah, no, the internet has made, you know, even dating for vanilla people so much easier, I think. I don't know. Yeah, I feel like. But, I mean, like, for swingers. Well, yeah, it's even easier. You can just. It's, yeah, you can. You can have a checklist. You can chat with people, see what they look like. Yep, yep. You know, you can filter by your preferences.
Speaker2:
That's right. You know?
Speaker1:
And, yeah, so it's, you could even, you know, cool thing we talked about this before is like, hey, I'm going to Phoenix, Arizona.
Speaker2:
Oh, yeah.
Speaker1:
Okay, I'm going to put a note that we're going to Phoenix.
Speaker2:
We're not.
Speaker1:
We're just picking a city at random. So we could, you know, try to meet a couple or couples or singles or whatever you know look at the you know look in that region like hey would you like to meet we're coming out on xyz day and you know that's to do that before the internet oh it would take in years like i said yeah you know those magazines magazines, you have to take out an ad in them. Yeah, right. But again, there was like a 900 number you could call, put in the ad number you wanted to talk to. I think that's how it worked. And then you could leave a voicemail. Oh, I thought you actually had to write, you know, fill out. Like back in the day, you'd fill out some kind of thing. Well, there was a newspaper. to say. If you wanted to place an ad, yeah. If you wanted to respond to an ad, basically you would leave a generic voicemail for them. Oh, I didn't know that. How they get in touch with you. Oh, I had no idea how that worked. Yeah. Yeah, so. But, yeah, it was, you know. Still a long, took a long time for things to happen. Yeah, it's so much different now, you know. It could be almost, I won't say it's instantaneous, but you could go on a Swinger website and have a date for the same day. Yeah, it's very, very possible. I mean, look at what, like we saw a show about things in the 70s today. Oh, yeah. On YouTube, you know. And, you you know look how technology has evolved that people wanting to interested in porn so to speak right right you know prior to the you know polaroid camera coming out you had to have someone that could develop the film for you or oh yeah yeah You know, whether it be, or your yeah you know whatever you know film you use for your camera you couldn't get that developed at any and any old drugstore i remember you when you and i first started the very very first adult site and we had to scan in the picture we had to get developed at a only like one uh place would develop them way down in south hampton oh my god now you go on like instagram you see all these women out there flaunting stuff you know good to bad in the maybe and you know if you follow their go to their bio page you see they have links and there's you know of course there's an only fans link and there's some other sometimes and it's Like, you know, of course, there's an OnlyFans link, and there's some other sometimes. And it's like, you know, back in the 80s, even 90s, for someone to get into porn was a lot more difficult. And I think not only is it easier to get into it now, I think it's far more accepted. Yes, I agree. Now I see a good-looking woman no matter what her age. I'm like okay what's your only fans yeah yep exactly exactly yeah we heard that stat that during covid oh yes it went up 1600 that's crazy the amount of memberships uh of women posting on only fans went up 1600,600%. That's nuts. Yeah. I guess people were like, okay, what else can I do? I'm not working. I can't work. I can't leave the house. What? Well, you need money. Or you need money. And women like to feel pretty. Sure. And what makes you feel prettier than someone sending you money to stare at your pictures or jerk off your pictures whatever you want to think yeah that's quite flattering i get it i think in today's world women have a better sex drive than they probably had years ago um you know what maybe years ago the sex drive was still there but it was really really on the down low i mean you really had to hide it i mean it's oh yeah women can be a lot more open with your look at leggings or what yoga pants or whatever oh my god how many women do you see walking around that sporting camel toe it's just like if some of them should be wearing that some you know just because they're black and skin tight doesn't mean they're slimming not necessarily i know i'm not wearing them i'm wearing baggy shorts so they're yeah that are cut very high well that's true but um you know it's i think women have become more sexual i mean you're seeing more sports bras being worn out as a shirt that's You're seeing, you know, the stretch pants or whatever the fuck you want to call them. The shorts, you mean? You're seeing the shorts. You're seeing the ones that go down to mid-thigh. Oh, yeah, okay. It doesn't matter if it's down to mid-thigh or they're uptight. When they're pulled up your crotch and your ass, it's like, okay. You can't be shy and get offended if someone's looking looking at you a guy or whatever is looking at you when you're wearing those you're kind of showing everything you got sometimes yes you know it depends on the fabric depends on what you're wearing for all intents purposes under them you're kind of showing what you got kind of if you're mine that tight i don't think mine were that tight i don't remember being able to yeah yours were pretty tight pretty tight yeah and you were wearing before it was really a thing yeah i know you just said hey i left the gym fuck you i'm leaving i'm leaving i'm wearing my gym clothes everywhere even when i'm not going to the gym i don't care it's you know i felt terrible yeah it's where i was most comfortable and it just felt that's felt right but people look at you. Are going to look at you. Yeah. Don't get, you know. I didn't get offended. I did not get offended at all. I'm not saying you, but I'm saying, you know, so, you know, women, I think, are dressing sexier. Yeah. And you're going to get looked at. And I think, you know, they go on Instagram. They don't necessarily have to own a fan's page, but they post themselves wearing bikinis and this and that, you know, getting comments, good, bad, and indifferent. Right. Right. You know? So I think the world has evolved. I think the internet has been a big catalyst in that. Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And all kinds of, besides the whole swinging thing, but just women being to feel sexy about themselves and putting themselves out there and expressing how they feel and stuff. So it's not a bad platform. But I mean, for swingers, it has been a door opener, I mean. Oh, yeah, well, for everybody, not just swingers. I mean, technology has changed our lives, obviously. Yeah, and sometimes for the, I mean, not always for the good, but it's just great. It's a weird dynamic. I mean, this is, sorry, I don't want to go off this unsexy part here, so just real quick. I mean, it just seems like you can connect with so many people, but yet connecting with them is still, you still have to meet face-to-face. You have to meet them and get to know them. Yes. This just opens the door. Yeah. I can't rely on it, but it helps me get a feel of somebody who I might want to play with, especially if I, you know. Remember, we hadn't met the one fun black gentleman who was very, before we met him, we did FaceTime, remember? Yes. And he was a polyamorous. Yes. Sweet guy, really sweet. Because his one mate, girlfriend. That's fine. I don't know what you call it. Whatever. His polyamorous. One of his polys. Yes, it was really interesting because you were really interesting because I was talking kind of sexy to him. And then he goes, oh, I want you to meet my partner. And then it went over to this other woman. She waves to me. I was like, oh, my goodness. So that was kind of interesting and weird and cool at the same time because I didn't know she was there until he moved the phone. And I almost felt like I had been invading their privacy in a little bit. Well, it was like you're cheating. Yeah, it was. Because I'm next to you, too. Yeah, I know, but it just felt really weird. Oh, so I get left out of the bag. Oh, my God. almost felt like i'd been invading their privacy in a little bit because that was like you're cheating yeah it was i'm next to you too yeah i know but it just felt really weird that was like but it was just that was kind of strange but the technology at least made it so i knew who he was before we met which was great so when we met face to face it was still a social thing but it was I kind of knew what i was in for as far as playing went so that was that was kind of cool i like that yeah but no i mean you know the evolution of how technology is um kind of help sexuality just grow in all directions you know individually as couples as swingers as you know um you know that you have texting you know i mean we didn't have or sexting yeah we closest we had to that back in the day in high school was you know passing notes the notes yeah i've done that oh my god yeah you had to be a that was a whole different think it was, like, more risky because you couldn't, if you're in school, you can't get, you can't be intercepted. That note cannot be intercepted. Well, it depends what you're writing. Yeah, exactly. But if you want to do, let's pretend you wanted to get a little saucy with somebody, you know? Yeah. It's a little more like, oh, my God. All of a sudden, some guy is like, hey. Hey, so-and-so. Vince wants to up like little bo peep and see you as a sheep that's there that would never happen okay but that's that's where it started though but the nodes can be intercepted a lot of a lot of problems could have happened there but that's what we did back in the day yeah texting or texting or whatever but yeah i recall it yeah iing or whatever. I don't even know what the topic was. Does it matter? We just kind of rambled today. No, I think we just went through a nice cool loop of some of my bizarre memories from when I was in high school. There you go. Many years ago ago i'm sorry to say but it is what it is all right well with that uh thanks everyone for listening don't forget to check out the magazine 50shadesofpleasure.com it's free always be free so uh again if you want to write articles or whatever for that we'd love to have you um so stay horny oh have a good night everybody Thank you.
