Just be Truthful

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The commentary of this program by its host or guest is the sole opinion of the host or guest and does not reflect the opinions of Hot White Podcast owners, agents, or representatives. This podcast is not meant to be taken as professional advice. Hi, this is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wife Podcast, where we discuss all the good, the bad, and the really erotic of the swinger lifestyle. Well, hello everybody. Take closer to your mic.

i'm sorry that's my first time listening to the whole intro the new intro the new intro so yeah interesting so hello everybody welcome to my hot wife podcast this is donna lynn and i'm here with my trophy husband since you're wearing the t-shirt i'm gone gone you're wearing the t-shirt, I'm gone. Where the fuck did I come from? You're wearing the t-shirt. It says, trophy husband, because, well. Mickey bought it for me. I had to wear it. Yeah, there you go. And I wore this actually a few days ago when we recorded the podcast with Mickey. Since it has been in the wash. It has been washed.

Just happens to be in the rotation again. Again, tonight we're live. Hopefully we will get a few phone callers and the number is the number the call in is 484-352-2553 we look forward to hearing from you if you are listening to this live you're at our website which is hotwifepodcast.online. And that's the only place it goes live. So on Sunday nights, we're doing them Sunday nights now. If you're going to at 9 o'clock Eastern time, New York time, if you're confused for whatever reason. And, you know, you can call in. But we're going to be from 9 until whenever. Right.

So if you can call in, great. You know, if you have questions, comments, want to join the conversation, Look forward to it. Yeah, we'd love to hear from you. That'd be great. So our new schedule for posting, we're going to be doing this show Sunday nights, which kind of flows in. If you didn't hear it live Sunday night, it'll be there Monday morning. Sure.

And then another new show will be posted on tuesday morning and this week is a good one because this tuesday is the one we recorded with mickey yep yep and uh the topic of that one is variety is the spice of life i'm going to tell you you're gonna want to hear that one yeah i'm sorry i'm just panties were ruined and i'll give you a hint not mine and not donna's and the amazing part she was she was probably i don't know she was squirting no one touched her no squirming squirming she was squirming and she was probably oozing not cross any tighter than they were a piece of coal between her legs we'd have a fucking diamond right now she was fucking soaked I don't know.

I don between her legs, we'd have a fucking diamond right now. She was fucking soaked. So, anyway, I've been sniffing that seat all weekend. But anyway, it's a different story. Sick motherfucker. That's all right. Hey, we all have our fetishes. Hey, tell me you mind when seat, you know? Yeah, but I'm always sitting in it. It's like, yo, get your nose out of my ass. You at the dogs. Oh, well, you know, they're cute and cuddly. Oh, damn. Done! Starting already. Are you going to start with me? Anyway so I found another podcast. And there's a bunch of swear podcasts. And we're not in competition.

We're doing our thing. Yeah, we're just having fun. We're doing our thing for what that's worth. And we appreciate everyone who listens.

we're doing pretty good pretty good you know for for two people that just that we didn't think anyone would listen we're up to like four listeners now oh my god that's double that's that's like seven times that's seven people more than i thought we got oh stop so but no we thank everyone for listening people uh if You want to out to us email us at hotwifepodcast at gmail dot com dot com I almost think like with gmail it's synonymous you don't have to say dot com but you know and again if you want to see where Donna is and all the other links to everything go to hotwifewifedonnalyn.com and that's Lynn, L-Y-N-N, not L-Y-N-N-E, just so you know, and all the platforms that I'm on, ManyVids and OnlyFans and Twitter and, you know.

If you can, you know, put in your schedule now, Sunday nights at 9 o'clock Eastern Time, New York Time, to try to call in, join the show, ask questions, give us ideas for topics or what have you. Yeah. So I stumbled across this other very successful podcast also, and they're doing their thing. And I'm by no means bashing at all. Our show is completely different. Yeah, I guess. I didn't say good or bad.

just said different okay oh yeah we're different but theirs is more how many is the word clinical what they listen to much more professional than we are i mean but they are much more polished and we're just like well you know what the fuck you know we're just just i can't i just i don't want to be a bashing of i'm not i'm not going to mention the show, so... No, no, well, you know, what the fuck, you know? I don't want to just be a bashing of the show. I'm not going to mention the show. No. I found it very clinical because it's like, well, we're going to talk about this.

And yes, we went to this club, and we met this, and then this, and then this. What I like is the classes. Well, that's part of what I want to talk about. Tonight's topic, I wanted to make tonight's topic is called, is, you know, about being Thank you. Well, that's part of what I want to talk about. Tonight's topic, I wanted to make tonight's topic is called, is, you know, about being truthful. Right. Okay, and this is many, many aspects of being truthful in the swinger lifestyle. Right. Okay, and sex in general.

Like they talked about, well, if you're interested in getting into sex, you know, so-and-so offers classes and online course and all this. It's like, really? Well, let me just, we were talking about this this morning with the other couple. We went up to breakfast with another swinger couple this morning. And we told them about the, you know, you should take these courses. Well, we didn't tell them they should. No. This podcast. Did you know there's classes available? And we're like, well, wait a minute. Let me just, wait a minute. Wait, take these courses.

Well, we didn't tell them they should. No. This podcast was- Did you know there's classes available? And we're like, well, wait a minute. Let me just, wait a minute. Let me just clarify. Are these courses on how to swing or how to get into swinging? Is that what these courses were? I don't know. I didn't sign up yet. All they said was like, you know, there were these courses that are available. These people would teach them.

And when I told, we told this other couple that's, you know, this other podcast had this, they looked at me and they were like what what are you talking about classes for at least 10 years at least 10 years and they're like classes what do you need classes for i'm like i don't know i don't know why you would need a class i think it was more is it etiquette is it no no from what I gathered, I think it's more about teaching you what you're going to prepare. From what I gathered, I think it's more about teaching you what you're going to, preparing you for it.

I mean, if you've not seen your mate with somebody else or one of you is definitely more into it than the other one. And then all of a sudden, you know, you see it and like, oh, my God, she's like thriving thriving in pleasure and she's come five times on this guy's dick and I have a hard time making her come once. I'm not saying it's me. No, of course not, dear. Yeah, just stop fantasizing. But I think it's kind of like that kind of thing. And that's great. I have no idea. If you need that, that's awesome. I didn't think I needed a class or we needed a class. No, we didn't.

We just talked about it. We're different people. We're different, that's for sure. In so many ways. But that's kind of where I'm going with the truthful thing. I actually think that one of the many aspects of the truthful thing. You mean like transparency? Be transparent.

whatever kind of clothes you want to wear um okay i'm gonna yes that's what i should wear to the next party saran wrap saran wrap a saran wrap dress cheap enough it's not like the clothes you wear stay on long oh might as well be saran wrap you know what and then you could wear a necklace that's all you really need to wear no no i want something that they can tear off of me a saran wrap dress that they have to tear off would be very hot oh i'm i'm gonna do that okay okay move on transparency okay all right covered that so um but if you are in a relationship this is our opinion like the disclaimer says we are we offer no official hell fucking anything except a great degree in bullshit um you need to be honest with each other yeah you know if it's something you're wanting to do and you don't know where your mate stands, you've got to be honest.

Yes, I agree. You know, and there's honesty, there's so many aspects of honesty, I think, in the swinging world. Yes. Yes, there is. You got that right. That need to happen. Right. Again, we'll start the basics of getting into it. You're going to your significant other and I'm using that term because it might not necessarily be your mate I'll see you next time. Again, we'll start at the basics of getting into it. You're going to your significant other. I'm using that term because it might not necessarily be your mate.

It might just be someone you're dating because I see a lot of that nowadays where people are dating and they want to get into it, which nothing wrong with that. But again, everyone's got to be on the same page. I agree. I agree. You know, like when I approached you about it, you were kind of like. I was on the fence. I was like, oh, that's going to be weird. That's going to be so weird. First of all, I mean, besides I am weird. It's always weird that I wanted to see you with other people. I thought that was really weird. I was like, why would you want to see that?

But everyone before me was a very possessive controlling person yep so this then this whole then you came along and you were the exact opposite and i was like okay now this is weird too why can't i just find somebody normal hello is there anybody normal out there at all not in this group not for me there's Well, and she thinks she's normal. Yeah, okay. You got me there, hon. You got me. What's my nickname for you? Besides the angry elf? That's the one. Yeah, he is such adorable, cute, I mean, you know, endearing terms. Don't make me tell them why I call you this.

Go ahead, tell them why you call me that. I am an angry elf. I'm little. She's an elf. I'm an elf. And then when something she does wrong, or in her mind, not like I said, Donna, you fucked us up or whatever. Right.

You know, I mean, she could like, oh my God, I put too much too much cream in my coffee fucking and then she takes her hand and literally punches herself in the fucking forehead like three times hard if i did it i'd go to jail for abuse and i'm like what the fuck is going on she goes i fucking put too much cream in my coffee i'm like come on that's the only It's the only scenario I came came up with. I put too much creamer in my coffee. But you've done things as stupid as that. In all honesty, you've done things as stupid as that. And it's like, really?

If it's that bad, don't beat yourself the fuck up. Pour it out and make a new coffee. But that's what we should fucking go off the table. Jesus Christ. Relax. You know? We need to go in the bedroom, get you a couple of orgasms, bring it down from the edge. Talk me down. Do you want me to just push you the fuck off? As she's drinking. You always fucking do that. Why do you do that? I don't make you drink, bitch. You drink on your own. I'm just drinking my drink, you know, and it's a very good drink. And then you say something like that, and I almost spit it out a little bit.

Okay, make me laugh. I'm going to drink. Go ahead. I'm not the person to make you laugh. Yeah, you're right. Okay. I'm not that person. But that's the truth for this.

So on the elementary level of, you know, if it's something one of you is thinking about you'd like to experiment with right you need to be truthful i agree you know and because it's something that you have to have a stronger relationship for yes that is absolutely true if you have a weak relationship and think swinging is going to save it because the other person in the relationship you notice has eyes for other people and you think well if i let them sow their wild oats they'll still you know no if they're if they're that enamored with other people they're going to become more enamored it might just push them over the edge in that direction yeah so the So the relationship has to be very strong to begin with.

Well, we know somebody who's in the swinging world and is married. Their significant other is kind of aware of them playing because they're not on the best of terms. Right. But that person wants to stay in that relationship but is using swinging to look for another relationship. Yeah. Can we say hairy? It's going to get nasty. As we know in the swinging world, we don't like hairy. No. Nope. Well, it's going to get ugly. Potential. I hope not. I hope not too, but I can see it getting really ugly. Again, and the truthful part of what we're talking about, this might not necessarily be sexy.

It's just educational. And I'm trying not to be as boring as some of these other sons. But anyway, that you have a truthful to yourself. Right. Well, here's another thing, just to kind of move away from that for a little bit that we've noticed on the Swinger websites that people and their profiles are not transparent to us either. We were chatting, you know. Well, that was the next way we're going. Yeah. Besides getting into it with your significant other or whatever, if you're going into it, if you're going to put a profile up as a single individual, be truthful to the people.

You don't necessarily have to put it in your profile. Right. But when someone contacts you, be truthful that like, hey, listen, I am married or hey, I am in a relationship and they do or do not know that i am doing this don't no bullshit like well they gave me permission bullshit probably bullshit well yeah because i hear we are chatting with this person we make a play date blah it's going off the day of, I get this thing. Well, I can't get away. Oh, wow, what's going on? My wife has me doing things with the kids. It's like, you never mentioned it. Not that it's.

And he was talking to you like two, three times a day for like a week. Oh, baby. Yeah. Yeah, we're going to do this. And then he's like, how about I bring another girl with me? I'm like, dude, let's just, you and me get together. Let's iron that out. We didn't even see what you look like in person. I don't know.

yeah we're gonna do this and then he's like how would i bring another another girl with me i'm like dude let's just you and me get together let's let's iron that out what you look like in person yeah and he's already like oh i could bring a you know male friend oh i want to do this to you we're gonna you know spit roast you and we're gonna do this and that maybe another girl and i'm you know i'm gonna eat both your pussy i'm like show up my mommy yeah i can't show up my wife has me doing things with the kids and I'm like, motherfucker. When did the wife happen?

Did you just get married between the last two kind of things? Yeah, exactly. And not like you're trying to have a relationship with this guy. No. Other than friendly, like friends with benefits. Friends with benefits, you know. So, yeah, I was like, you know, I just can't be. And the other thing is, the pictures in your profile, make sure they're you.

make sure they're you oh yeah boy oh boy yeah we've fallen for that one too i mean it's not a big deal but yeah the pictures and the person that we met were there's been a couple there's been a couple guys that uh weren't so truthful not too many not not too many but yeah. It's like, really? If you're, if you have the balls enough to put up a profile, have the balls enough to show what you really look like. Well, we've said that too in the past. If you're mature enough to want to play in the swinging world, be mature enough, put your fucking picture there. Yep.

I mean, it doesn't have to be in a profile picture. Everybody's like, oh, I don't want to get outed well out it's not illegal you're allowed to be a swinger so you're not going to go to work for the most part that i'm aware of and your boss is going to go joe can you come in here uh so my wife and i were cruising the swinger website and uh we saw your photo in there and Show your profile. I can't have you work here. Exactly. It's like, boss, what the fuck were you doing on the Swinger website? Well, first of all, my wife and I are Swingers, but I don't allow Swingers to work. Yeah, exactly.

Like, what? Come on, you know? So, yeah, it's whatever. Well, like we talked about before, a lot of these websites, you can't just browse on them like they're like a porn site or like, you know, Pornhub or something where everything is free. You have to have a membership. You have to join. You have to pay a significant amount of money every year or, you know. If you, again, I'll speak to SOS, okay? Swinglifestyle.com, okay? It's a great site. We've been on it for 20 years. Oh, yeah, 20 years. We're very close to it. Yeah, something like that. And you can put your pictures hidden. Mm-hmm.

But if someone, if you reach out to someone like, hey, I'd like to meet you and everything else, you should unlock your galleries to them.

You don't have public pictures i get that i understand yeah but a lot of them have their faces black and you can put in your profile description you know if you reach out to me and i'm interested i will open up my pictures but when they have no pictures i automatically think scam oh yeah yeah no no pictures not even a good description and and you're like why would i reach out to you why there's nothing there so and again part of the truthfulness of uh the swinging world i honestly believe too is you need to be we've never knocked wood had any, but people need to be truthful about illnesses, which is generally pretty good.

I've never heard anyone, all the people we know, I've never heard one person sit there and go, oh my God, I heard so-and-so got this or whatever. Right, right. If something like that happened, it's going to get around. It's going to get around for sure. Yeah, knock on wood, 20 years, we've never had a problem. Nope. I don't even think i've ever even got the common cold from somebody again knock on knock on wood yep there you go so but um yeah i i honestly think again the the whole thing of being of the swinging world is maturity and truthfulness. Mm-hmm. I agree. You know, and respect.

Respect is a huge one. We've already said that. Yeah. Especially as a, we've talked about this a thousand times, especially as a single male. Hey, you know what? I want to stop for a minute. Uh-oh. Today is Sunday. Tomorrow is Memorial Day. So I want to give a big level of gratitude to all the men and women who have served. Yeah, exactly. And to anybody who might be listening that has lost a loved one while in service to this country. And we owe the freedoms we have to have this podcast and enjoy the liberties we have due to the, the men and women who've given it all. Yeah.

So again, please make sure you keep the families and the, and the individuals that have given it all, uh, in your thoughts and prayers, especially tomorrow. Um, but it should be in all honesty every day because we all get these freedoms to have the lives we have right now because of them. So, um, I should have said that in the beginning of the show and I apologize, but nonetheless, I got it in there and I mean, by it. I owe a lot of gratitude to all the men and women that serve. So anyway, with that said, yeah, I just think there's just everything. I don't like the immature games.

And there are so many games being played. And we've been a part of them. We have been. Well, we haven't been. We've been pulled into them. We're not part of them. Yes. In that way, we were definitely pulled into them.

And, you know, you're chatting with these people back and forth, back and forth you're like yeah and and the whole time i'm like is this person real is this person real it's like you say that every night about i know i do every every single night is this person real is this a dream do i need no no no is this a nightmare do i need i mean is this a dream yeah and i look at you look through your glasses at me i'm like oh man but i think someone's pillow is going to disappear yeah uh you are a pillow stealer stop that my pillow alone so innocent that's the the aspect of the truth yeah i wanted to talk about because where it came from is like we talked about in the very very beginning about this one other podcast in mind and again i'm not mentioning i'm not bashing them no no they're very very clinical very knowledgeable than we are very educational well they're going at it with a different angle oh sure they're meant to be educational right they're meant to be instructional i guess uh they do a lot of reviews of swinger clubs and stuff which we don't not a big fan of clubs not a big fan of clubs so um yeah but for guns um but um guns the clubs yeah i kind of like knives yeah clubs are so messy messy but brutal anyway um so i'm gonna get on that topic again our show tonight might not be one of those examples.

We tend to want to have more fun. Oh, yeah, I do. And obviously people who listen to the podcast enough know that we tend to try to laugh ourselves and hopefully make you laugh also. I've heard quite a few times people for some reason laugh at us. Okay, me? For some reason laugh at us for some reason really? I think it's pretty evident there. I think it's pretty obvious. I like things to be light and sexy and fun. Well, I'm not light. Okay, heavy and sexy. The sexy part's up. Oh, well, with the trophy husband, you are definitely sexy. Look at you. It's written all over your shirt.

You have to be sexy. It says it right there. It doesn't say sexy. It says trophy. Trophy means sexy? No, it doesn't. Sure, it could be. I got a trophy playing soccer in school. In this case, a trophy husband is a sexy husband. I'd like to think my coach didn't mean the trophy I won for you know, it's like, the hottest guy on the team he could kick a ball. Jesus Christ. He showered the longest and lathered up his Johnson so well. I'm giving this throbbing trophy to Vince. Is it a big penis? He's like, that's not a soccer player.

No, it's not not but I just want to let you know you're the most valuable player in my book you've got my soccer ball all hard and overinflated you're so not right my god you're a sick motherfucker stop that so Vince also wins the showering award and the tightest jockstrap award Thank you. Fucker, stop that. You're just not. So Vince also wins the showering award. And the tightest jockstrap award. Coach, when did they become awards? When I saw Vince. When he was in the locker room changing. Oh, God, stop it. Wearing his tighty little silky shorts.

When he slid in the mud and just got all dirty. I said, oh, he's a dirty boy. So I went in the shower and I helped him rinse all the mud out of every crevice. Okay, enough of that. Back to therapy. I don't know where you come up with these things. I don't need... Swear to God, this show is never scripted. And there's a reason why it's... Maybe we should. It doesn't need to. I can't write. That's why. I can't write her type. No, it's terrible. It's terrible. I only write in Arabic, so I don't know. I can't read it, but I can write it. At least when I think I scribble there.

Yeah, we have no idea what you're scribbling. We have no what i can't stay in the lines when i color what the fuck okay um i have a few different boxes on my desk here of like little cards with questions and it's not trio pursuit um thank god there are two of them one of them is called best self it's the intimacy it is a little intimacy an intimacy collection. The other one is also about Best Self, and this is Ice Breakers. And the other one's in a clear box. I couldn't tell you what the fuck they are. Whoa, way to go, babe. Way to go. Okay. I'll shut your mic. I'm sure you will.

You're the best, babe. Let me answer all these calls. Hold on. Okay, I'm done hold on okay i'm done um i think the shower thing scared them oh god it scared me i'm and i'm only outside the room for you too we showering tonight together oh of course we are that'd be a first in a long time yeah that doesn't work in our shower the intimacy ones i grabbed four cards at pure random oh dear god okay here we go so here we go. So here's some questions. Okay, the first one. Which relationship did you learn most about sex? Of all the ones you've been in. Oh, my God. Do I have to go back?

I mean, there's so many of them. I'll go first. Okay. Coach Johnson. Stop it. Oh, my God. You're just so not right.

The way we showered miss him oh my god i wore those sulky shorts for him go ahead oh gosh when i was 15 i dated uh a guy for uh god another like five years but he was 21 i was 15 he was 21 statutory rape yeah back in those days though there it's still in these days that's considered statutory yeah but in those days it was not a big deal not a big deal at all um and since he was significantly older than me uh we we did a lot of six years between us yeah but when you're when you're six 15 16 that that those six years are seems to be a lot a whole lot bigger distance wise than between you do you know what you needed when you're that age though that age difference you need spunk lube yes you do because you know what is a great product is it oh it's awesome probably wasn't around probably wasn't around then, but you know what?

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He was not a child molester. I knew what I was doing. There was no doubt. Shut up. When did you forget it? I mean, go ahead. So, well. Somewhere around 40. So with him, because, well, he was, um, he knew was what was going on a lot more. I learned a lot more sexual things. You know, we, we were also, um, uh, we did a lot of things like spontaneous. We, you know, he had a, uh, like a, a truck, like a, kind of like a station wagon. A van? No, no, it was a station wagon. Like an ice cream truck?

truck well we used to fuck in the back of that we used to get hotel rooms it was just you know we did a lot of things on the fly it was on his fly on his fly yeah so i learned a lot of um how to give a good blow job and i'm still learning i would yeah tell me about it yeah, you ass. That's like every man's dreams, to teach a woman. Like, you don't have it right, just keep going. Yeah, yeah. You know, that was good. Repetition, baby. Let's keep going. Let's try that. You've been out of practice the last few nights. I know. I need to get back into practice. You're right. I need to.

I don't care what you did today. You't care about my play date earlier today no personally I don't I received nothing but you will back to Coach Johnson let's bring Coach Johnson I want to see Coach Johnson Johnson go ahead I mean I guess that was probably where I learned the most because i was so impressionable and i was still very new to sex anyway hmm yeah i i have a funny thing that he probably taught me a whole lot even yeah yeah then after that it was um my high school my best friend he ended up being gay but he didn't know at the.

So we were experimenting with a lot of threesomes, foursomes, orgies, lots of trying on bisexuality. So that actually may be that. Trying on bisexuality. Is it like a store you go to? You just put it all on and just take it off. This bisexuality is a little tight. It doesn't fit. Do you have something and maybe a large, just this medium bisexuality, just a little tight, uncomfortable? Okay, maybe I used the word. I'm looking for a large bisexual. Like Coach Johnson. I'm wondering about the fucking Coach Johnson again. Oh, my God, stop.

Well, you know, you're experimenting with so many things and you're doing so many things and some things you like end up liking other things you're like maybe that wasn't the way to go some things you like, some things you do 17 times I take that back, it wasn't my boyfriend when I was 15, it probably was my high school best friend who ended up being gay because we experimented with so many different things with all kinds of BDSM things, threesomes, foursomes, orgies. You lost your virginity at 14. Yeah, but those guys, it was 14.

I'm just saying, so you've had a very active sexual life in your younger years. Yeah, I'm not saying, yeah, quantity is not quality, though. No, not always. You know, yeah, I had a lot of practice, but I don't, the quality wasn't there. What are you looking at me so hard for? I'm sorry, I'll look over this way. When you said quality isn't there. The quality is, I do have good quality sex with you. Yeah, me filming you with other people. Well, that's true, too. That's what you meant. That's exactly what I meant. Not with me directly in contact. Shut up, you're stuck so bad.

God, why can't you just be nice once in a while, Mr. Trophy Husband? Okay, I'll be nice. Mr. Trophy Husband. Yeah, so I think it was my... Wait, I'm not your first? Okay, you're not my first. I'm not even my first today, right? You're not even my first today. No, I... I'm going to get sloppy seconds. Yeah, I think you will. Oh, my God, that sucks. Oh, my God. No, you're going to get washed. It's going to be, like, brand new. Oh, yeah. I'm going to tie you to the roof and take you down to the car wash. You louse me. Okay, so who was the partner that taught you the most sexual tidbits here?

I can't say I had a partner in particular because, like, really, my dating career. So slutty with women lined up. No. Like, actual dating um there was i mean i have to actually date them you can just have one well what i'm saying is like women well like people that i had relationships with or dating i'm gonna use dating i didn't date a whole lot. I mean, there might have been like, I mean, you and I never even dated, in all honesty. We went, you know, because we had known each other for so many years as best friends. Right, right. And we just, it happened. Yeah, there was no.

But prior to that, I mean, like, you know, hey, you want to go to dinner or something like that? There was probably maybe my entire life five or six of those. That's it. And, like, one was the woman I dated and wound up marrying, unfortunately. The one was the engineer I worked with. Right, right. And there was a couple other ones in there or whatever. Yeah, but which one did you? But none of them were anything that I learned. I learned more sexual on my own with others. I thought you were going to say like just masturbating, watching porn. I learned more playing soccer.

I don't know why Coach kept me in the locker room all the time.

But no, like, like, theoretically, I guess guess it would have to i'd have to say it was with you in a sense that we had the freedom of being swingers so like if i was doing a photo shoot and there was other women uh that i got to play with because like i said when i was married to my first mistake i didn't cheat um i had opportunities but i never did and you know once you and i kind of got in a lifestyle and i did photo shoots and you knew of different ones i played with and stuff like that but i didn't um no i didn't really have anyone that um was a quote-unquote mentor no no uh what and neither did neither did i either it was just my best friend and i were both coming into the bisexual realm and he was he was still feeling his way and he wasn't sure if he was gay or not gay and and i i knew i was bi i just didn't know i did i didn't know where things were going i didn't know how to approach a woman.

I've known all along I'm not bi. Yeah. I'm not gay. I mean, I might be a lesbian, but I'm not gay. You're not gay. But no, I never had – it was just one of those things. No, I never had a mentor. You know, like people have emailed and we've talked to her like, you know, how do you learn? How did you learn to eat pussy that way? How did you just a name it's just I do what feels good to me and what I realized a woman likes I guess I can read Coach Johnson was different he didn't have a pussy funny thing is his last name wasn't Johnson I don't know why he made me say Johnson.

But anyway, no, it's just one of those things that I try to kind of read the body vibes. But anyway, it's a different story. I don't think I had anyone that really I could say was the, you know, what was the exact question?

Learned the the most about sex with no although i was with that when i was uh taking a karate class and he got and i was 17 and he was or i was yeah i was 17 he was 15 he brought that younger kid on for me to be a mentor to that was different i got to be the mentor that time when i taught him how to you know how to eat pussy how to fuck and how to you know i popped his cherry and of course he told this story where he saw me like years and years later when i was dancing one of the bars and recognized me and said hey you popped my cherry when I was just a kid. And it was awesome.

Well, you know, you were still just a kid, too. Oh, I was still just a kid when I popped this cherry. Yeah, you were just a couple years older than you were. I was only a couple years older than he was. But still, I was more experienced than he was. So I was the mentor in that case. But as far as having a mentor for me, no. My best friend and I kind of blossomed together and, you know. Yeah, I didn't have that. Yeah, did all kinds of wild and crazy things. Okay. How many times do you want to be intimate each week? Each week? In general.

Okay, I know because I know you that you have a very, very busy schedule. Oh, crazy busy. So if you had a regular schedule, what would be your ideal amount of times to be intimate a week and let's pretend not shooting porn because there's times you like there's been times in the past that you know it's like eight different guys in a week he gets kind of busy yeah i'm i don't know if i'd want to do it like, you know, if it was like every other day, every, you know, five times a week would be fine. Four times a week. Well, we have a lot of catching up to do.

Yeah, we have a lot of catching up to do. I agree. Yeah. You know, my head's like, oh, it'd be nice to do something. And it's like, God, I don't get home from work until 9, 10 o'clock at night. A quarter to 10 generally, yeah. Yeah, it's a busy, busy week. And we both generally get up at 5.36. Yeah. If we sleep until 6.30, it's like, what the heck, man? Thank you. 9, 10 o'clock at night. A quarter to 10 generally, yeah. Yeah, it's a busy, busy week. And we both generally get up at 5.36. Yeah. If we sleep until 6.30, it's like, what the heck, man? We got to get up. It's late.

Yeah, I mean, in all honesty, I'd be quite happy with three times. Yeah, three, four times. Yeah. You know, then we have like every other just, you know. Yeah, every other day, yeah. Yeah, every other day would be great. Okay, describe something you'd hate to do for real, but find kinky to think about. I think we talked about that one before. I'm just reading the card. Yeah, yeah. Being, this is going to sound really fucked up, so I have to preface it by saying. Again, this is something you wouldn't necessarily do, but you find it kind of kinky to think about.

I always found the whole abduction and being forced to give and receive pleasure very erotic. Like the whole, we call it the kiss the girls. Yeah, in a fictitious, controlled atmosphere, not unfortunate what goes on. Not a true, like a lot of these people have the rape fantasies. It is the, you don't want to be raped. That's obvious, you know, but the rape fantasy is very alluring to be, I think, because I like being restrained. But you don't like rough sex. But I don't like rough sex. So that kind of goes hand in hand. Not necessarily. Being restrained. A rape fantasy, in my mind.

I'm not saying rape fantasy for me, but I'm saying people that have a rape fantasy. It's the being restrained and being rough. Rough sex and controlled. Yeah, controlled rough sex is what they're.

And I like being restrained, so I would like more an abduction type restrained sure fantasy but i don't think i'd want that in real life that would really suck but in my fantasy yeah well of course my abductor is like good looking and hot and you know i want to have sex with him in reality it would not be that way obviously you don't know that but come on nine times i said no hot guys You can be like baby i'm here to abduct get my van yeah exactly all right on a scale one to ten how comfortable how comfortable are you with public displays of affection explain explain um i'm fairly comfortable with that i don't i don't think um you know hand holding a little bit of hugging a little bit of kissing is fine i don't think that real intimacy is a in public is where it should be although i do find the thought of having public sex and not being caught arousing well i don't public displays of affection is not public set.

I'm okay with it, but it can't be too like you're making out and bonding each other. That's inappropriate. Like the one girl I dated for a while. We used to go down to the shore a lot. We told you about that. And you know, there was always drinking involved. I don't know. How does that happen? The shit just finds Thank you. And, you know, there was always drinking involved. I don't know. How did that happen? The shit just finds me. It just finds you, yeah. I tried to hide from it. Oh, yeah. The alcohol comes knocking. Hey, Vincent, you're going to drink me right now. That's what it does.

It's terrible. And I always found it something, because it seemed like we spent a lot of time down the shore when it rained. Oh, yeah, okay. That sucks. And I'm reflecting back to, because we always went to Cape May. Right. Because there was alcohol there. Right. You know, like Ocean City, New Jersey is a dry town. It's just not as fun. Even, you know, we spent time in the city.

I mean, I told you, her and i used to go all over the place um and there's something really erotic about being out in the rain the you know pushing her against the wall and kissing her like passionately kissing oh yeah i mean like you know crotch on crotch my hands on her ass she had a great ass and just like you know fucking tickling the top of her heart with my tongue oh my goodness you know and she didn't necessarily like it but she would give in because she'd be into it right but she wasn't into it you know i mean it she didn't want to do it but she was like she enjoyed what i was doing alcohol helped helped.

So I have no problem. Again, I probably went a little too far with it. Like I'm fine with kissing, mild touching, but not like, you know, grabbing crotches and tits and shit like that. But like hands on the hip or, you know, even put your hand on the back of their head, just like we've run your fingers through the hair kind of thing. Yeah. I mean, you know, some people might get offended for their kids, but nowadays with this shit going on, it's like, that's nothing. Yeah. You know, and you got fucking cross-dressers fucking gyrating in fucking kindergarten for people. Yeah.

But, you know, I don't have a problem because it's somebody that I hopefully care about. Yeah. If you don't like it, look away. Yeah, I just think there's a place for it. I don't think it needs to be. Like, there's a certain point I'm okay with it. Then the rest of it's like, you know what? Just leave it to the bedroom. Well, hopefully. But usually what happened is there was drinking involved. Of course, there's always alcohol involved.

And then we're walking to the next bar or whatever right and you're already kind of half lit and you kind of got that horny buzz going right and you just don't care you don't care and it's just like man i just do i want another drink or do i want to you know fucking grab her and make her a cream donut you know right exactly so so anyway yeah okay so these are what the cards say oh boy I did not write these. These are printed, okay. What's your favorite sexual memory of us? Oh, the favorite sexual memory of you and I? That's what it says of us. I don't know who us is.

I'm going to assume it's you and I. Oh, you think? It could be. Who knows? It could be. I'm just saying. Oh. You know, I'm, ah, geez. So, so many. Oh, I know. I, this is, ah, guys, there's a couple. All right. We first got together. We were working in an office. And remember you, you. It's probably the same one I'm thinking.

So go ahead I'm thinking the one you picked me up and you put me on top of the mantle and you ate my pussy or whatever big mantel and you like picked me up threw me on top of this mantle you ate my pussy right you're at eye level yeah okay I didn't know if you like bent me over and fucked me or put me up there. I just remember I was up on this mantle and I remember you took a picture of me afterwards and you sent it to your friend. He said, look at her after that freshly fucked look. I was like, hair is all. I didn't send it to anybody. We didn't have smartphones then.

Oh, I remember you took a picture. I took a picture. Okay. That was just with my camera. I thought thought i thought that you like eventually showed it to your friend who's now deceased used to work together that friend i could probably say his name barry oh i don't remember i might have i remember him showing him the picture like look what she looks like when she just got fucked my hair is all messed up and like it's like swoopedoped over to one side. Yeah, I think actually after I pulled you down from the mantle, we fucked on the desk. Yes, I think we did. Yeah, I couldn't.

If you're up on the mantle, my dick ain't big enough I can fucking go up in four feet in the air. I know you ate me on top of the mantle. And you came a bunch of fucking times. A bunch of times.

And I was just like, then I remember being on top of the desk maybe yeah i think is that the same one yeah it's exactly oh my god it was either that one or we had the office that we um we first got together and you made me come 40 whatever times 42 you were the only one counting i didn't i i kind of i was trying to count i just you just lose count over time you know just you know it's like i i'm this is a man i count i count one one yeah okay one it's kind of anti-climactic at that point no it, it's afterclimactic. Yeah, it's one. All right. Well, the last card I have. Okay.

Again, I just picked these out. Oh, man, maybe you shouldn't, yeah. No, this is fun. Yeah, I'm going to find something that doesn't involve me. No, because that one is a question about you and me again. Oh, yeah, that's boring. Okay. Yeah, it is. Stop, it is is um if you could have a magic wand what would you want more of in your sex life that's a good one ah magic wand a magic wand um well yeah i don't want to get, if you could have anything more in your sexual life, what would it be? Forget the magic wand. That's bullshit. All right, well, the magic wand is fine. Jeez.

I would like to have, like, the... And I encourage people that are listening to this podcast, feel free to answer these questions and send them to us in an email. Send it to hotwifepodwife podcast at gmail.com we'd love to hear your your answers to this like if you had a magic wand right maybe get the card out exactly verbatim verbatim here okay so answer this question in an email or they could call in at 484-352-2553 and just but if they're listening yeah they're listening, yeah. If they're not listening, if you listen to it pre-recorded, send us an email.

If you had a magic wand, what would you want more of in your sex life? More orgasms. But you know what? I'd like to, more of the mojo that you have when you're younger. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's like as you get older, more things kind of. I'd rather have more energy so I could do more. Well, that's what I'm getting at. Like, more energy. Like, you know, your knees hurting. I don't want to use the word stamina. It's not like I get two pumps and I'm done. I'm talking about, like, you know, I don't want to, like, spend hour fucking and like, oh my God, my back's killing me.

Yeah, I'd like to have, yeah, it's more, you wake up the next morning, it's like, don't get me wrong, sex was great, I feel like I got hit by a truck. Yeah, remember that thing, that to say, before I have sex with you, can you sign this release? Not for video, just so you don't hold me liable for all your pains and aches. Aches and pains the next day. It's like we should be stretching or whatever before sex. I'm going to put some Denise Austin stretch videos on. We're going to do this first.

And, you know, Richard simmons is for coach johnson well yeah well hold on because um we had that younger couple that were here remember we played up in the in the um in the sunroom and you ate her out and she squirted and or you know they're both super hot the next day that was autumn and logan autumn and logan and we had a great time. But to tell you what, the next day, I hurt. I hurt. I mean, not internally hurt. Like, my legs hurt. My arms hurt. My abs hurt. It was like, good Lord, what did we do? Well, we talked about the party. And I had played with four women. Oh, yeah.

We didn't share with the podcast. For like two weeks after i was in severe back pain because like my legs hanging off the back of the bed and everything else one of my lower back kind of went out of whack until i went to the chiropractor and put me back in line after like two adjustments it's like okay i can stand again so yeah so it's like you have this great sex and like for days afterwards like you're like, my God, I feel like I got hit by a truck. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, I guess if I could have something more, it would be more youth. You know, take the sex out of that. I'm not talking 20s.

If I could go back to 35 to 45. I'd be fine. Closer to 35. But yeah. Yeah, either or. Without the ex-wife. Without the ex-wife, yeah. Yeah, I agree. You know, because it's like... Back to the story when I had the three women in one day. Yeah. Without the dick pain. Oh, without the dick pain.

i was gonna say your dick was raw i've been there fuck so much it's like oh your pussy hurts it's like it's like i don't i don't want anything else inside of me it hurts just it's yeah but you know again i'm not a three pump chump so yeah there was a lot of pumping involved that yeah yeah got a few hours i bet you yeah Thank you. Again, I'm not a three-pump chump, so there was a lot of pumping involved that day. Yeah, yeah. You got a few hours, I bet you. Yeah. Each one was probably there for an hour, hour and a half minimum. Yep. Even if you weren't having sex the whole time.

A couple of them wanted to go more than once. Oh, there you go. So it's like your dick hurt after that. Yeah, it felt like I was in a motorcycle accident. It slid down the road of my cock. Oh my god, that's terrible. Road rash of my dick. And then your balls hurt because there's nothing left. Oh, there's nothing left. That's fucking coming air bubbles. Yep, that's terrible. Oh, you loved it. Come on. Well, now, back then it, you know, it was painful, but now it's like, pound my chest. Three women one day, yeah. I had it the other night, but that was just oral.

I had four, sorry, I had four women. Four women. Yeah. I can't, it doesn't count. It doesn't count. Well, we'll see what happens with the next party. Yeah, a whole batch of new women there. Yeah. I'm looking for some new slutty clothes to wear i know there's two the first two i played with are going to be there again so there'll be the first two again but then there's like a bunch of new women so we'll see we shall see the 17th yep we'll definitely do an after party uh yeah so.

Last week we did the live show on a Saturday without thinking on my part that a lot of swinger events happen on Saturday nights. Yeah, on Saturday nights, so yeah. A lot of people have family events Saturday nights. Sure.

Now summer's coming, people are going on vacations or whatever, but hopefully you come home Sunday night so you still have a chance to call in oh absolutely okay and the number you can call in is 484-352-255-30 well we're at the 54 minute mark oh my god already yeah wow we can waste time we can definitely waste a lot of time fuck out that's the truth oh my god, and again, I mentioned that there's some other shows out there, which is not news. No, no. And they all, I can't say they all, but I'm going to assume they offer some level of information and stuff.

So if you're someone who listens to this show and is looking for more clinical. And professional. Yeah. Information. Well, if you're looking for more like without the jokes and stuff, not everyone goes for what we say or how we say it. That's probably better. Yeah. But I think you'll find a lot of people in the lifestyle tend to be more jovial and more. Oh yeah. Easy going. I think so too. And I'm not saying these, the people that I listened to, uh, for about three minutes, um, are not entertaining to some, not to me, but, um, it was very clinical, very textbook. Right, right.

And, you know, that's fine. You know, people like that. And so I urge you to explore that. Yeah, you have to find what, you know. You might want to hear them and us and see what we all say that's in common, but just deliver different ways. Or they might be totally opposite. I'm still stuck on the class. I just don't know why you'd want to take a class. I don't understand that.

The other thing is, I still want to put to everybody, we are so, so thankful for everyone listening and the numbers are incredible for us and they're growing but I challenge you we're not asking you for a dime but we're asking you to one, I want to ask you all to find us on Twitter at Hot Wife Podcast all one word give us a like, a follow, whatever we're trying to grow that it's not that big a number we're at 579 I think right now I'd like to get that number up there follow us if you can also I'll see you next time. We're at 579, I think, right now. I'd like to get that number up there. Sure.

You know, follow us if you can. Also, I want to challenge you to please find one or two friends that you think might want to listen to the podcast, whether they're swingers or not. Tell them, hey, you want to hear Two Big Idiots? Listen to this show. Listen to this show. Oh, my goodness. Again, the shows are all different. Right now it's Sunday night. It's 9.56. We're going to wrap this up in a few minutes. But Tuesday morning, so if you're downloading this show, it's going to be probably Monday morning.

So tomorrow's show is going to be Donna, donna myself and mickey yes and the show's title is a variety of the spice of life uh i think you will find it very entertaining oh yes mickey was oh my god if you said your legs are so cross it was not even funny if you're a man you, you might find yourself squirming in your chair at work, if you're listening to it with earbuds on. It was a good show. Really good show. So I went to Touch Base. We had lunch with breakfast, sorry, with a couple we've been friends with for 10-plus years. Great couple. She's getting ready to potentially get into shooting.

She is a married woman, her and her husband in the lifestyle. She's had four kids that are all adults now and still has a very banging body. Banging body. And she's about to show you how it gets banged with some videos and stuff. And we're going to be getting her on the podcast. Oh, that'd be so nice. I'm not sure if her husband's going to come on or not. We'll find out. We'll find out. Yeah, it'll be fun either way. So, yeah, there's between Mickey and her. And then we have another friend, Angelina. Right. She's going to be coming on.

She's going through some health issues right now that she needs to work out.

and she's gonna be coming on she's going through some health issues right now um that she needs to work out and then she's she's been anxious like hey i want to come on i want to come on she is going to rock your world yeah she is a ball of fucking energy i want to keep my finger on her microphone to keep it one minute should we talk and then she's great yeah so she has got a body um yeah we're gonna be doing some body we're gonna be doing some fetish videos and photos with her um that uh she's got a incredible body and she has got more energy than the fucking nuclear i don't know who is more of a nymphomaniac angelina or or a Mickey.

Oh, between the two of them? Yeah. They could take on a stadium and those two at the end of fucking everyone in a fucking stadium go, okay, I'm warmed up. Let's go. I'm still horny. It's like, oh my God. Those two are just dead. And the body's on both of them too. And the body's on both of them. Yeah. It's like, oh my God, I can tear you up, tear you up. As a man who has played with both of them, has seen both of them naked countless times. Not countless, but numerous times. Numerous times, sure. Oh, my God. Okay, I'm back.

So I just, I was like, you know, to be the meat in that sandwich, and I mean that in every way. Yeah, exactly. You mean the meat in that sandwich. Jesus Christ. Oh, my goodness, yeah. It'd be like being thrown in a pond of piranhas. Those two would chew the fuck up and there'd be nothing left. Nothing left. They couldn't even identify it from dental records. No. They would, oh, yeah, those two are man eaters. They are. One of them is even a woman eater, we're finding out. Oh, she's just become a woman eater. Apparently. Apparently, yeah. She was never really. She never had interest.

She didn't have a problem with women touching her, but apparently now she feels the need to reciprocate. There you go. Like I said, it's like the Pandora's box. You open that up. Somebody's box. Yep. But anyway. Yeah, the show is growing in different ways. We have some interesting characters.

These are all people we met through Lifestyle, through my photography um and i'm going to be relaunching some of my fine art photography oh that'd be nice well we talked about a picture i want to do oh yeah i've got one picture and some other ones yeah i think it'd be fun and again well uh angina wants to do more fetish yeah more fetish yeah that'd be fun i do like that we're going going to have some limited production stuff that you might be able to buy if you're looking for some erotic art.

So, and maybe eventually I'll put out, I've been asked numerous times to put out a book of my photography. So that could happen. I think it'd be fun to do anyway. Yeah, I guess. Why not? So anyway, we're after over an hour now. Oh, geez. I'm bored you. No one called. That's fine. But, you know, please try to schedule. I mean, I get it. You know, like we have one person, Jay. She is out in Arizona. Oh, yes. And, you know, I know she has a husband that is not aware that she listens, I guess. Right. Understandable. It's kind of what we talked about with the truth thing. Yeah, yeah.

You know, she's a fan and appreciate that. We appreciate every fan, everyone who listens. And, you know, hopefully one day she'll be able to, hey, honey, I have to go get some milk down at the store. She'll call in because she's three hours behind us. Right now it's 10 o'clock here, so it's 7 o'clock there. Everyone needs milk at 7 o'clock at night. Anyway, again, talk too much. Thank you. We'll talk to you later this week. Like I said, Tuesday's show is Mickey with us. We didn't record. We should have recorded that one. Well, we didn't record the one for Thursday yet. No.

So we'll probably do that tomorrow or Monday. Tomorrow's Monday. Tomorrow is Monday. Wow. So we'll record something. Way to go, Vince. Yeah, that's been a long day. So anyway, thanks. All right, everybody. Have a great night. We'll see you next time.