Jealousy is never good

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hi this Donna Lynn and welcome to my hot white podcast where we discuss all the good the bad and the really erotic of the swinger lifestyle hello everybody this is Donna Lynn and I'm here with my wonderful husband vince i saw you over there grabbing your breasts again what going through the intro it's just so erotic i touch myself it's like a disclaimer fucking disclaimer is like four times longer than the fucking intro. I know. I don't want to tell you. Yeah, it's all right.

We just want everybody to know that please do not take this as gospel and that we know what the heck we're talking about. We're officially nobody. And we officially know nothing. Yeah. I guess. That won't be argued. No, no. It's like, I don't know. Do we really need a disclaimer? I'm sure it's.

Well, in all fairness, I mean, kind of lends itself to tonight's show funny how you bring that up that um we're humbled by the fact that we have been reached out by numerous people exactly that um that they actually think that we know something they're asking advice from us it's like oh my god are you kidding me and and more than one person it's important i say this more than one person yes actually almost thinks like we're talking to them yes i know and we're just talking for all those purposes we are just talking uh if it applies to your situation we are fine to uh interact with you and give you our opinions and that is all it is is our opinion it doesn't mean anything we don't have any kind of special knowledge with this yeah so i mean even like tonight's topic we have been blessed with that uh it's not something that pertains to us, We can tell you how we deal or don't deal with it.

Yeah. Should we approach the topic? Yeah, the topic tonight is Cheating is Never Good. No, no, that's not it. I'm sorry. Jealousy. Jealousy. You're a couple of shows back. Sorry, it took a very long week. A little behind your times. Jealousy is never good. Jealousy is sorry. Jealousy, yeah. Jealousy. You're a couple of shows back. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, it's been a very long week. A little behind your times. Yeah. No, jealousy is not good. Jealousy is never good, yeah. I was going to say cheating is never good. No, cheating is going to be fun. I wouldn't say it's never good.

But yeah, jealousy is never good. Yeah. It's always, it gets ugly. It just gets ugly. Yeah, we've had a few people, not just one. We've had a few people. So if you're one of the people that listens to the podcast, that addressed, sent some emails and stuff to us about that. This is not directed at any one particular person. We're talking about this in general. In general. Okay. And before we get to that, let's give out, we'll do the Spunk Lube plug. Okay. Because there's no way I could segue jealousy into Spunk Lube. Well, if your mate is kind of jealous, luber the fuck up. Wait a minute.

With alcohol and Spunk Lube, both are lubricants. Both are lubricants, yeah. But no, spunklube.com, by all means. And again, we don't just say this. We are big believers. We actually reached out to Spunk Lube and asked if we could promote them on the show. And all we asked was for a couple samples that we can use, and we do. Next thing you know, it was this giant truckload coming in. No, it wasn't that much. It's only a fucking tanker. But, no, it was just some – but it's a great product. You're going to have to buy it at spunkloob.com. So go there.

And if you do, put a little note in there if you can. I'm not sure what you can do on the site. I don't know that you heard about it from Hot Wife Podcast. And also go to hotwifedonnalyn.com and see you everywhere Donna is and all the things going on and some places I'm not a lot of places you're not you're not on CNN dot com I'm not on a lot of places there's always next week the other thing if you want to reach out to us we love hearing from everybody it's great tonight's bourbon is Old Forrester. Oh, you like that. It's one of your favorites. This is the, let me grab the bottle.

I finished it, so it's right here. Oh, no. I put my glasses on so I can read it. Old Forrester is a lot of products. This is the Old Forrester bourbon distilled, the 100 proof, okay? This is the, it's great. I love it. For an inexpensive bourbon, in Pennsylvania, it's about $26 a bottle. It's really great for a lower-end bourbon. I have plenty of upper-end bourbons, but for every day, it's a nice 100-proof. And the reason I bring that up is we had a gentleman reach out to us, Michael. I'm not going to go into any more than that. Michael asked me what my favorite bourbon and cigars are.

And so we had a brief little conversation about that. Interesting that he segued into that instead of like, so, you know, do you like Donna when she's getting, you know, spit roasted or, you know, something sexual. Yeah, something sexual. Hey. Bourbon and cigars are kind of a sexual thing to me. Yes, I know they are. You know, the only thing that makes it a trifecta is like if, you know, we're having sex or blowing me or something like, well, I'm smoking a cigar and drinking bourbon. Yeah, that's the trifecta.

But like I told Michael, I have a lot of favorite cigars and a lot of favorite bourbons. Depends on, you know, there's no such, it's like a lot of things. There's no bad, there's what you like and what you don't like. Right, right. You know, if there's something that other people are like, oh, that's, you know, that's a pussy, whatever. It's like, well, that's what I like. Fuck you. So. You're all what you eat. Yeah, well, so to speak. That's why I'm a pussy. Yep. I'm not a dick. So. Yeah, let's go with that. Sometimes you're a dick. I mean. Oh, damn it.

That's already.'s already I'm not attacking you yet yet but anyway just give a couple minutes so y'all live with that so and oh so there is some news with the website so at only at only wow it's a light late night and it's been a long day so if you go to our hotwifepodcast.com I don't know. Oh, it's a late night and it's been a long day. So if you go to our hotwifepodcast.com and go to our site, I just installed a blog today. We're going to start working. I don't know how well it's going to work, but work with me. And I also installed a little like store.

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Or 12? Yeah, 12. What the hell? About the podcast. Get them listening to it. I'm happy with that, too. Every little bit helps. The numbers, I guess I keep scratching our head, and we appreciate everyone who listens. So with that, I'll move on to the show now. Yeah, about jealousy. About jealousy. So we had someone, I'm going to pick on one in particular. Okay. Okay, one individual. That he and his wife are, well, he is experienced in the lifestyle. She's fairly new. Correct. And she has a more strict upbringing. So he's introduced her to the lifestyle.

And apparently jealousy on both ends, it's not a one-sided thing, is becoming an issue for them. They have limited experience, but they're experiencing some jealousy. Yeah, that's not good.

You can't be jealous in the swing lifestyle well let's get to the rudimentary stuff we've talked about this before sure i'm sure we have yeah probably countless times yeah sorry yeah it's okay we're just gonna go over again um if you think your mate is going to leave you okay well even more rudimentary both of you have to have an interest in either well in both you have to have an interest in seeing your mate with somebody and seeing seeing your mate with somebody and what was the other one I don't know seeing seeing your mate with somebody and what was the other one? I don't know.

Seeing them enjoy being turned on by seeing them with somebody and you have to have interest in wanting to be with somebody and they have to have an interest in wanting to see you with somebody and have some level of security. Sure. Again, if you if you're not secure in that yeah your relationship is you don't be swinging don't jump into that pool because it's not going to be pretty it's going to end yeah it's it's just it's going to get a real ugly real quick and the thing is i don't know i'm i'm asking a question i don't know. Is there a way to get over the jealousy hump?

Is there a way to create security? Well, the first thing is – I think, again, we're not professionals. Yeah, we're definitely not professionals. That's why I'm asking the question because I don't know. So, again, these are all going to be points that people have to ask themselves is are you secure enough with yourself and your relationship, more importantly, that your mate being with someone else is only a, I'll use the word superficial. I don't know if that's a great term. But it's like, okay, they're just having fun. It's not romance. It's not love.

It's not love, and they're not going to leave you. Can you separate sex from love? That's a big one. That's a big one. I think the problem sometimes arises, and I have seen it in other couples where he puts all of his attention. In this case, it was a he. That's why I'm saying he. That's fine. He put all of his attention on the people he's playing with and not so much with his significant other. I've seen it go the other way, too, where she was like, oh, gaga over her playing mates. Oh, he's this. He's that. And then her husband's like, wah, when she talks to him.

I think we've actually touched on more recent shows about how strange sex is a little more exciting. Yeah. Again, we talked about like, you know, you might be playing with someone new. They might not necessarily be better than your significant other. But the fact that it's someone different and strange kind of gives it bonus points. Yeah, it does, but it doesn't – yeah, and then you look back on like, well, it wasn't all that good. I mean, it was fun. Okay, so then you also have to look at the aspect of – again, and I'll get into what we enjoy. Okay. Is one, I enjoy watching you.

Right, so there's already that. Two, you enjoy teasing me. I do. So the person not necessarily being the best of the best is almost a little more superficial. It's like a moot point. Yeah. Because it's just a matter of – It's the teasing of you. Well, it's you're teasing me and I'm enjoying watching. As long as it's not a negative experience for you, it's arousing to me. Right. Now, if it's a great experience for you, it's even more arousing. Exactly. I don't feel threatened because I'm comfortable in our relationship, as everyone should be.

If you're not comfortable in your relationship, the last thing you should be doing is swinging. I agree. And also, you should never... Make sure you give your spouse enough attention. If you're swinging, make sure... Did you say something? Exactly. Oh, dear God. Here we go again. Make sure you give your significant other even more attention if you're going to be swinging so they know they feel special. Sure. You know, or something like Sure. You should be doing that even if you're not playing.

I agree, but if you're going on that deep end, make sure that you make your significant other deep end, like the pool. Make sure they feel special. Make sure that you give them the attention. I know the water is still too cold. damn it. But, yeah, I've seen other couples do exact opposite, and then they wonder why their relationship is on the rocks and eventually falls apart, and then they split up. It has to be a mutual thing. Sure, I agree.

Both of you have to be comfortable in your relationship, and both of you have to have that interest in experiencing other people, and ultimately, it is about teasing your mate, your significant other, however you want to word it. I think we're doing a lot of that, the next party, which is almost... Yeah, we'll get into that later. We'll get into that later. I can't wait. Yeah. It's just, well, again, this is going to be a Friday show, so it's tomorrow night. Tomorrow night. So we're recording this on Thursday night.

And actually, I just realized I was getting ready to turn on our take-the-phone calls, but in my new computer, I don't have in our Skype number. Okay. So I can't take the calls right now. I have to do that before Sunday night. But anyway, you have to have the interest. You're going to see your mate.

If you're swinging in a couple situation, you're going to see your mate doing something with somebody else right you have to be comfortable with that right right okay and it's not a um a tit for tat oh look he's she she's doing something more to him that she doesn't do to me or he or whatever i'm trying to use just generic terms yeah but is you know, your mate may either A, be receiving pleasure and making more noise than that person does with you, or might be causing the person they're with to make more noise than they do with you. Yes, and we've had that happen, too.

Yeah, yeah, on both ends. On both ends. And, but again, it's because of the newness. Yeah, I mean.

You you know you might make a great hamburger at home and your mate eats it goes oh it's a good hamburger but also they go out someplace else like oh and the hamburger be exactly the fucking same right oh my god this burger so fucking good oh my god so what makes it a better burger well i've used i i've told you Again, all the cooking yes and i told you i could make myself uh a bologna sandwich and go okay it's two pieces of bread it's two pieces of bologna one piece of cheese a little bit of mayonnaise a little bit of mustard and that's it maybe lettuce tomato and give you the exact same measurements you could make the sandwich for me never Never happens.

Never happens. But you could make, or someone else. Getting a bowl of salad, bitch. You could steam a bag of vegetables. Steam a bag of vegetables. There you go. Someone else could make the sandwich for me. Exact ingredients, exact measurements, everything. Somehow that sandwich tastes better when someone else makes it. What? Why is that? I don't know why it is. That's the thing. Well, I like to cook, obviously. Yes. Okay. You, my kids, and other people rave about some of my cooking. I enjoy your cooking. That's why I don't do it. We'll use my lasagna as an example.

Supposedly, it's almost world-renowned. But anyway. I don't know about that, but it's really good. I've had people pay me to make it for him well you know it but what i'm saying is really good yeah but to me it's like it's lasagna i mean my mom born and raised in sicily she no speaker too good at english and she's like hey this is a better than mine you know it's like yeah i don't know she's how do you make you? It's like, same way, Mom. I just do, it changed a couple of things. Oh, my God, this is a good, you know. I like that you're listening.

It's like, is it better or is it the fact that someone else made it? That could be. Is the sex you're having with someone else really that much better than what you have with me? Right. I know you're shaking your head yes, but it's different. Oh, there you go. I'm up and down, up and down. Homeless guy who hasn't shaved or bathed in months. She's like, oh, it's better. Stop, that's disgusting. Oh, come on. I got a bad taste in my mouth. Trying to get you to snort again for Jay. No.

And for Jay, since you listened to the show a few times, each time, in the 20 years we've been married and however many years before that, that was the first and only time I've ever heard you snort. Well, I've done other things. You made me laugh so hard. Yeah, I made you vomit a few times and kiss yourself. In a good way, vomit, not in a bad way, vomit. But anyway, I don't know what it is. It's something that when I make something, it tastes good. But it's not like, wow. You guys are like, oh, my God. Whatever. I don't know. Maybe you're a jerk of my feathers. We're lying.

We're a bunch of lying sacks of shit. That's are. Well, that's no shit. We just lied to you. Tell me what's good. We're like nudging each other. Tell me what's good. Shut up. Tell me what's good. Well, I know my son-in-law likes it. Yeah, I know he does. He would fucking kill people to get to my wife's onion. But anyway. Is that some kind of code for something sexual that's going on there? No the way you said that and you know Vince's lasagna is very firm it's tender but firm stands up it's not all flaccid and soupy just It just fills your mouth. It's so warm and creamy.

You can make anything sexual. God, it's so cheesy. It's just, oh my God. It fills my plate. It fills every inch of my plate. I'm getting hungry for lasagna now, you fucking bastard. It's like, the ricotta cheese is so creamy. It is almost a sexual experience. I've never had my plate so full and stuffed. Oh my god, my fork is just overflowing. What am I doing with a gay voice? I don't know. My fork is overflowing. It's not the same. It doesn't have the same sexual... Asian doesn't do it, but anyway. Too harsh. But, so, get back to the jealousy thing. We kind of struck...

Also, we gave a cooking podcast. Hot wife cooking. Hey, that doesn't happen. Hot husband... No, there's husband cooking. Anyway. There's husband cooking. But it's...

Again, if you are listening to us for whatever reason and you're contemplating or having some potential issues with swinging, with jealousy, it's really a matter of you both have to be comfortable that you have a good relationship first before you venture into you know other playgrounds how's your playground i always love the one when guys are like you know i want to mess around with other women but i don't want hers i don't want to see her doing it it's like well wait a minute what's good for the goose is good for the hand maybe the Well, maybe the question needs to be, why do you want to get into swinging?

Yeah. Oh, he just wants to, you know. Well, that's what I'm saying. For both parties. It has to be a both parties thing. It does. I agree. Okay. The both parties, male, female, whatever it is. Have to sit there. If you're going to venture into swinging, if you have this dialogue that you're like, what? Did you ever think about swinging? You know, like a jury side. I don't know. I don guy.

Because I've seen you obviously I bounced however many goddamn bachelor parties and watch you you know fuck another guy well because like i've seen you obviously i bounced however many goddamn bachelor parties i watched you tease a lot of guys i watched you shoot a lot of videos you know again we were just friends right and stuff like that and so i think it was just one of those things that i just said to you um again i'm not a jealous person right okay i'm very fortunate i'm very secure with myself um and you know don't get me wrong as much this is my theory and my okay okay this is my stance on life okay um for what that's worth is as an individual i sit there and i'm well aware that, you know, I love you and you're my everything, but if I don't make you happy in whatever shape, form, or task that might entail, if you decide that you need something else, that something else is going to make you happy and you're going to leave me because you're not happy you're going to leave me right and swinging has nothing to do with it so our relationship was very strong from the very beginning it's a whole different fucking five show series I don't know about five shows okay three not even okay two minutes yeah that's that's about it so we were friends first that's it whatever okay good yeah um but if you're um you know if you're insecure again we've talked about this we said it even earlier you know if you think that your mate is going to leave you for another orgasm then there's a lot more wrong with your relationship you don't have a relationship that you should be having a swinging lifestyle exactly exactly okay um so um yeah i i just because i mean i've already seen you you know you when you did bachelor parties you didn't fuck or suck or anything with anyone else you teased them you well but even i'm saying the male audience you didn't do anything with them there was no extras um so i but i found it there was an erotic level of watching you tease and again you and i were just friends at the time you said it was even embarrassing to watch me No, we were such friends at the time.

Right, you're like, oh, no, it's uncomfortable. It was almost like watching my sister. Yeah, that's kind of not right. Which is really wrong. But once we started having the romantic part of our relationship, again, my ex-wife and I were into it, and there's an erotic level of watching the woman that means something to me give and or receive pleasure. I think that most people, like vanilla people especially, would say watching the person that means the most to you being, quote, intimate, being intimate with somebody else would be very uncomfortable, devastating. And it's fine.

It's not for everybody. No, it's not for everybody. You know, some people like their eggs sunny side up. Some like them over easy. Some just like them scrambled. Right. You know, there's, you have to do what's best for you. Again, I'm not saying that the swing lifestyle is for everybody. No, no, it absolutely isn't. But if it's something that you can both agree upon, you know, like my ex-wife, she was not comfortable watching me with somebody. Right, right. She was fine, obviously, with multiples. Football teams. Teams, the Air Force, half the Navy. Is there a theme there?

The 6th Brigade of the Army. But, whatever, another story, another show. But it's but if it's something you're comfortable We'll be pegged. I can't even talk to my wife. She would not go for that. She's very, very like. Vanilla. Yeah, boom, you know, this, we do missionary, maybe doggy once or twice a year. But, you know, it's just like, you know, pum, I'm done. Right. Kind of a thing where they're like, oh, man, I'd love to lick her toes.

I'd love to've read my ass or whatever and well i'm just saying yeah exactly all those you know but they know their mate um is not necessarily open to that right right it's the same kind of channel oh it is the same kind of channel yeah and so you know saying to your mate like um i want to watch you get fucked by a guy. Well, you know, saying to your mate, like, I want to watch you get fucked by a guy. Well, you know, you were receptive to it because you kind of had a wild side to you. Oh, yeah. It was awkward at first. It was awkward at first. And you were like, are you sure?

You're kind of sick. And now you see how many guys, like, want to see their wives. Yes. We have a lot of friends. You're pretty plain, Vince. Jesus Christ. Yeah, really. Get a wild side, would you? Yeah. How about I peg you, Vince? Fuck no. I'd sit there and go, no way. Yeah, you would too. Yeah, you'd sit there and go. Nope. I wanted this one. No.

I can nope i wanted this one i gotta label those buttons god damn it god damn it i wanted the uh the tumbleweed one you wanted the crickets yeah can i your ass vince now people are like boom but anyway um so it's the same thing you have to have some kind of agreement there has to be a dialogue between the people and the person you're talking to has to be receptive to these ideas but until you have that dialogue you may not know is there like a dialogue you have to have? A script. A script is like, okay, I'm going to use these code words.

And if she doesn't like smack me across the face when I use them, then I know we're on the right track. Something like that. I don't know.

I think the very first time like with my first wife when I ventured into it it was one of those like the first dialogue might have been like you know i found i think i made it up it's like man a guy at work i found out he's a swinger and she's like you know like what was that what's that mean do you have a swing set in his backyard it's like no him and his wife you know they meet other couples and he watches his wife with other men and she's like really yeah and but you know so but and in all fairness the first time or first few times that you experience that and watch it there is your your gut gets a little weird feeling because you're like am i still viable in this relationship but then when it's done right and you go back to your you know you both de louse yeah okay who asked me oh mickey mickey asked me she was i hear you use the term de louse what does de louse mean she doesn't a louse is no she's always a piece of furniture no she didn't i don't know she didn't know what delousing was oh so i had to explain to her i said i gave her a simple example i said you know a lot of times like um the police get somebody who's let's say homeless or vagrant or whatever and hasn't bathed in a long time living on the street street.

Lice is a louse. They basically spray them with something to kill any infant infestations that might be happening with them with bugs and shower them. They get all the scum off of them. Oh, that makes sense. It's de-lousing. Just in case there's other people who don't know what de-lousing is. And I don't have a great vocabulary, so there's not going to be a lot of those terms that need to be explained. But yeah, then we play. After I'm de-loused. Power wash me. I do not need to taste somebody else unless it was another woman. If you're playing with another woman, you don't have to shower.

Nope, nope. If it has a penis, you're going to need to shower and gargle and shower again. And then gargle again. And then brush your teeth. And then brush your teeth. And gargle. And then brush your pussy. And shower. And then continue to car wash. Power wash. But no. Is that why we have the power wash in the bedroom now? We have two. One's a backup. Backup. I can't afford to have one break down. One breaks down. I got to get some sex. I'm sorry. It's all different kind of heads. Don't tell me I'm not romantic. I got you two power washers. Two power washers. But anyway.

So so that's just wrong um look at this head isn't this romantic this is gonna do multiple people do you want do you want the one with the soaping head or do you want the one that spins yeah the circular one this this power washer is for your pleasure. Take the skin right off. Are you looking for the 2,500 PSI or 3,000 PSI, maybe? Anyway, so again, you know, I almost, I can't say it's the right way to do it, but almost the aspect of almost one of you should go at a time. But that's tougher.

If you both do it at the same time, you know, like if you want, you know, again, I always, I think, and we've said this, I think on the show before, if you're going to get into, venture into swing, try either soft swing, which is you might do oral to someone else, but that's it. Both of you can do oral, but nothing else. No penetration. Or same room sex. And soft swap can also be, I don't think it's soft swap. What is it? Just same room. I think same room is where you just have sex with your partner in front of another couple. Yeah, that's what I thought that was.

And the same room can also be where you have sex with the other people but in the same room. And then you and I are like, you know, just text me and let me know where you are. Yeah, that's pretty much, you know, to some degree. Yeah. Safety first, but, you know. Well, again, we're not, you know, if it's some situation where we don't know whoever, it's not like, you know, you're going to venture off. No. Well, another thing is, too, it's like I found it easier for us because we didn't jump right in the couples because as we talked before, that's a more difficult dynamic.

So it's easier for us to get single men and just concentrate on single men so that was and that worked out better for us well the men don't have interest in me exactly well they don't yeah of course so it was easier for us to just have a single man we can just concentrate on one you well you but you're you're kind of again i was videotaping and photographing yeah so you were doing your voyeur thing and i was doing my exhibition thing and teasing you so that that worked out well and i even think in all honesty the first few times that we did do couple things and i was playing with another one there was a little bit i won't say jealousy it was uncomfortable it was uncomfortable for you you were kind of worried i think it was like oh especially the pierced tongue thing i know i always you had a bigger threat of someone over five foot that's true that someone like it's actually 69 with and yeah i know i've hurt my neck that hurt your neck that's true that's really I crave a 5'4 woman.

She's an Amazon in my world. She's perfectly proportioned to 69 with me. She might have to be taller than that because... Anything. 5'4 and over, we're good. We're good. But anyway. But, yeah, if you're a jealous person, even before, if you don't like a... let's go to the basics of jealousy. Let's go – I mean, like a few months back, we were in a store and a gentleman, I was in the aisle next to you. And he says, oh, aren't you a pretty little thing? Yeah, yeah. You know, and you came around the corner smiling and stuff. And I heard it. I was like, oh, thank you. Yeah.

If you're a man who gets jealous over another man looking at your woman or looking at your sin if you're someone who gets jealous of someone looking at your significant other right you don't want to swing no because looking is nothing yeah if you get jealous over someone making a positive comment okay i'm not saying a rude comment rude comment you bash your teeth in right but a complimentary comment sure i mean we came out of a restaurant one time with my aunt and uncle yep i was just thinking that and uh some guys walked up to me and they go is this your wife i said yeah and they go is it okay if we compliment her and i'm like fuck no no you don't want to do that you're gonna compliment me no now you're gonna make make her you know like think less than me no you can't i said no you can and they said oh your wife has incredible legs yeah and i said well they look great over my ears and i was like yeah spin class is working yeah but um's, I mean, and I've told you before, like, we'll be out someplace, and I've watched, because we walk, you know, like, I'll be looking at something, and you walk past me, and guys walk past you, and they turn, and they look at your ass.

I've even seen guys slow down as you're cutting the lawn. Cutting the lawn, yeah. And they look at your ass as you're cutting the lawn.

i find it personally a i don't want to sound like it's an ownership thing because it's not i don't feel like i own you no but it's like it's a pride thing it's like yeah other people find you as sexy as i do that's probably the best way i can word it it's not an ownership thing like yeah look what i have right it is but it isn't it's more look at yeah some other people find you as sexy and as beautiful and and everything else as i do they just don't know you to hate you but what a pain in the ass i am they don't they don't have to live with you so i'm envious of them to go to be single like you oh god I could just drive by and look at her ass and just be happy with that.

And not have to deal with the nagging and the bullshit. All the bullshit you have to deal with is just awful. She farts in her sleep. Oh, my God, this is horrible. Is that not loud? Just a little bit. Damn it. I'm in trouble. This will be the Hot Wife Donna show starring only Donna soon. I'll be missing. I'll look for my face on a milk container. Okay. But anyway.

So, but, yeah, I mean, so I think that's the first part you need to explore before you get into swinging yeah are you comfortable with somebody just looking at your significant other and making positive comments if someone said to you man your wife your girlfriend your husband your whatever um your boyfriend whatever whatever is is really hot does that make you proud or does that piss you off? If it pisses you off or upsets you, no. Don't jump in the pool. Swinging is not where you want to go.

If you don't like someone going, wow, your significant other has a great ass, the last thing you want to do is sit there and watch them trying to fuck your significant other's ass. That's true. Yeah, that's very true. 100%. I don't know. I'm just calling math to me. 2 plus 2 is 6. You know, everybody knows that. Yeah, of course it is. You fail math. 17 times. Oh, there you go. Hey, I got through school eventually. Eventually. I got tired of seeing my ass. It's like I'm 25. Can I get out of sixth grade now? Oh, God. Honest, he's not that dumb. I just look it. You don't.

But so, okay, so if you're comfortable with someone complimenting or looking at your significant other, okay, and again, this is aimed at men, women, whatever your partner may be. Then you need to be comfortable with the concept of your partner having fun. And by fun you mean sex. Whatever. Even kissing. You want to call kissing sex? I don't know.

then sex it's something intimate yeah yeah is there a gray area let's say okay is there something between those compliments let's take it away from sex let's pretend you go to dinner with another couple we've been there okay you sit next to him i sit next to her okay and if everything is going well you know you might be like snuggle up next to him like oh my god you're so funny you might have more of a connection yeah and you know sometimes the initial meet sometimes depending on you know arrangement or whatever you know it could involve a kiss right you know now sometimes a lot of times it's one of those things where you will ask that the significant other can i kiss your significant other i wish there was like one word that said that yeah you know but um you know and so are you going to be comfortable with that and it's not like a little on the cheek i'm talking like like, you know, full-blown tongue in the mouth, out the nose, through the ear kind of a thing.

How does that work? Well, it's only you have to have garlic knots. Oh, garlic knots. Oh. What? I just don't know that kiss would be all that great. Okay, then we don't go to that Chinese restaurant. That Italian restaurant anymore. Chinese restaurant. You have not. No, we no have garlic nuts that's the next door um but uh yeah so i mean what point do you get uncomfortable right and if you're uncomfortable but not overly uncomfortable work through it right right you know i mean in all fairness I don't know. And if you're uncomfortable, but not overly uncomfortable, work through it.

Right, right. You know, I mean, in all fairness, I mean, I've seen Donna ride more dicks than I ever have. That's easy. If I rode one, that'd be more than you ever have. Goddamn right. Thank you. I've never ridden a dick. Thank you. You knew that button that time. Yes, you did. Womp. I was waiting for it. It's like, ha, I've ridden a dick. No. But, yeah, and again, it's a delicate balance because you might sit there, okay, I'm okay watching her kiss him or vice versa or whatever. But when I go and do the same thing, how is she going to react? I mean, don't get me wrong. Alcohol helps.

Just a little bit. Like I said, it's a good lubricant. But the important thing I think we have failed to talk about, the most important aspect of this, conversation, dialogue. Oh, yeah. You have to. You and your mate have to have dialogue. And I guess that's what I was saying. Like, how did you broach the subject?

Like, I don't remember how you broached the subject with i don't remember how you broached a subject with me but how did you broach the subject you told me how you broached a subject with your your ex so i'm glad it was you it was one of those things like oh my god you know you know i think i think i actually broached it while we were playing around i was like you know what i think it'd be hot as shit to watch your sweet ass ride up and down on another dick. You might have. And you're like, you know, that'd be kind of fun teasing you because you're the exhibitionist. I am, I am.

And again, you... So you did that while I was in the throes of passion. How dare you? Well, between dry heaves. That's a good idea. Get her watch. She's all hot and boggling. Drunk and horny. Drunk and horny. Then you popped the question. No, I already married you. Oh, not that kind of question. Not that question? Okay, different question. Hey, how would we... You know what? Sometimes if you're a woman and you want to swim... I'm never a woman. Okay.

If, as a woman, and I wanted to get my husband to swim, I might say, hey, how would you feel if I brought a girlfriend in and we made you feel special? Oh, I have a funny feeling. It's a lot easier. It's a lot easier for a woman to get a man into swinging than it is for a man to get a woman into swinging. True. Yes, absolutely. Hands down. Hands down. Because I think majority men want to see their wife with another woman and then want to be in the middle of that. Exactly.

be they want to be a stuffing of that double stuffed oreo cookie yes they do lots of stuff but most men probably have a hard time thinking about you know their wife with uh you know someone better looking and well better hung than them and might have more stamina than them doesn't exist in my in my case, but whatever. I'm sure there might be one out there. What the fuck are you laughing at? Hang on. Okay, there we go. Oh, you need your microphone on? I'm sorry. I didn't know how to do this thing. I hit that button by mistake, I guess. Of course you did. Yeah, that could be it.

Men have have this machismo and they just, you know, oh, look, he's... It's a macho thing. It's, oh, he's a nicer chest than me. Oh, he's got a bigger dick than me. Oh, he's got... I can honestly say I've never said that. If I said that in my head before I would say it, I'd go, oh, fuck, I'm gay. Oh, my God.

Look a he's got a more muscular chest his cock is so much bigger than mine look how his balls hang oh my god you're gay oh my god it's round ass look at that it's so much rounder than mine oh she's gonna enjoy his cock i can see why I would so enjoy that cock oh oh my god she's gonna want him just like I never mind go ahead fuck my wife go ahead get out of the way I can see how that would be like translated like oh maybe I'm gay it's like oh i need to see a therapist i better go to my kid's kindergarten fucking drag show yeah you're right there's a lot easier to get a guy in a swinging than a woman.

Well, sure. How many guys, like I said, a wife goes, Honey, I'd like to bring my best friend over, and her and I want to do you. Oh, no, I can't have two beautiful women. No, no, I'll be too jealous. Versus like, Honey, can you invite your friend over, you and him you know spit roast me you want my friend why it's like well i want two guys we think he's got bigger dick than me i mean that that's the mentality i mean if a woman comes and says oh yeah me and my girlfriend we want to do you you're like fuck yeah yeah but all of a Fuck, yeah.

But all of a sudden, she's like, I want you and your buddy. He's like, what the fuck you want with him? You know? Aren't I enough for you? You've been looking at him? Yeah, I can see that getting ugly real quick. It's like, oh, my goodness. Yeah. Yeah. You don't want to see me suck his dick, do you? Because, I mean, hey, I did it once back in 10th grade, but that was, you know. 10th grade? It was 10th grade. You know, you experiment in 10th grade. It was just me and the coach and him and never mind. Half the team and then.

You know, it was like an initiation into the volleyball team and never mind. Never mind. They went to see me spike it, so I spiked it real hard to them. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah. Sorry. So do we answer anybody's question about jealousy at all? Not even a little bit? I think we've given enough hints that it's all about dialogue and conversation. It really is. I mean, there is no answer other than you need to have dialogue and conversation with your mate. You two have to be on the same page. Yeah, I agree. I said, we suggest you take it very slow. Yeah, you don't want to jump right in.

And then if you go too quickly and one person is more accepting the other person hasn't caught up yet or isn't that accepting of it then it can kibosh yeah again i would suggest almost more like okay watch your significant other kiss someone else right yeah before it gets to like you know like he's slamlamming. Yeah, before, you know, eight inches deep into something. Right, exactly. Whether it be a mouth or a pussy or whatever. Or all of a sudden, your wife all of a sudden is taking, you know, a dick in the ass. It's like, you never let me fuck your ass. Well, you don't look like him.

Whatever. Whatever, you know. Or vice versa. You know, oh, you want her because she lets you fuck her in the ass. You know, I don't let you fuck me in the ass, but now you fuck her. You're going to want that all the time, aren't you? So there needs to be a lot of dialogue there. A lot of dialogue. It really is. Before we jump in, yeah. Yeah, you just answer, you know, step it up, bitch. No. Step it up.

That that's terrible isn't that a song by stone step it up yeah yeah no that's not it no no no i don't think so so but no it's um can't uh urge enough i think dialogue right conversation take your time take it slow yeah if you're not ready for this it could it could damage the whole thing it could damage the. If you're not ready for this, it could, it could damage the whole thing. It could damage the relationship. The thing you both need to realize before you do it, you have to come to agreement that you're strong. That doesn't matter how good the sex is. It's sex. It's not love. Right. Okay.

You're going to have potentially sex with somebody else. You're not going to be making love to somebody else. Right. Okay. So it's going to be some level more of excitement because it is someone else. Hopefully one or both of you have some level of excitement in watching each other. Yeah. You have to have some kind of enjoyment or yeah you sit there go i can't stand watching you fuck somebody else but i'm gonna fuck this one over here yeah that's just don't i can't look over don't make any noise you can fuck them i don't hear anything don't enjoy it don't enjoy it don't have an orgas Yeah.

I think we've actually met people like that. Yes, we did. Yeah. Okay. That's what's jogging my memory. Yeah. It's like, what? Yeah. Like, I can control that. Okay. Yeah. But anyway, I still like the one like, she never screams like that for me. That was still my favorite. That was good. But anyway, another story, another show. But yeah, so to wrap up the jealousy thing, I think it's all about... Communication. Yep. And taking it slow. Yep. And make sure you're honest with each other too and what you desire. Which is part of the communication.

That's, yep, honesty, communication, transparency, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, sorry this show wasn't as sexy as some other ones.

No, this is a more informative again we're at 50 minutes into it already well okay um so the thing we'll talk about now so again communication so again reach out to us hot wife podcast at gmail.com we will try to give you our opinion and two cents into a topic like that oh my god any situation we might you know if you want we might even be able to reach out to you if you give us your phone number and actually talk to you on the phone not again we are not professionals nope this is just our professional fuck-ups but we're professionals with that yeah we're good real good at that um but um so the the show we're going to do next is sunday night it's our live show i know there's a good chance that um Thank you.

So the show we're going to do next is Sunday night. It's our live show. I know. There's a good chance that Angelina will be back with us. Oh, you think? When she says she's enjoying doing the show. Oh, that's the first I heard. Okay. Yeah, actually, she just reached out to me.

And, well, she wants to come and watch you play with but apparently the the playmate is uh not gonna make it this week i don't know he's like kind of up in the air about it so okay well we'll see we'll have to find somebody physical we have to kind of get a commitment from him whether he is going to commit to do it or not to do it right i mean he's got a medical condition that i understand um but uh if he's not doesn't think he can do it then we have to schedule someone else yep and um but um anyway um but yeah we have a party the house party on uh saturday night i know and i i'm gonna have to out slut you this.

I think we can do it. I don't know. See, it's a unique dynamic. I've out-slut you so much. So I just let you take the lead and have fun because I get to do that all the time. It's not... See, that's the interesting thing is we walk in there and the men all look like you're the only steak on the platter. Oh, that's not even true. Oh, sure it is. Oh, come on. I'm able to sit back. Okay, just like we talked about jealousy. When you see other men looking at your significant other, in this case even true. Oh, sure it is. Oh, come on. I'm able to sit back.

Okay, just like we talked about jealousy, when you see other men looking at your significant other, and in this case it's a woman. Oh, honey, when you walk in, it's like, it's a typical, you know, record. The needle goes across the record and every stops and looks. Even the women do. I walk in, they just go, you know, they just hear the theme, the Franken. I don't know if there's a theme to Frankenstein, but whatever. They have the torches and pitch works. Who did this song Frankenstein? Oh, that was the Edgar Winner group. Edgar Winner, yeah. So, you're right. You win. You get to have me.

Oh, that's a prize. Oh, yeah, that's a prize. Oh,'s a prize oh yeah but fortunate for me the hostess and a couple of the other women are going to be repeat offenders they'll probably tell the other ones that are new so between the two of us we're like rock stars I don't know about that they They don't want autographs, they want more. But anyway. It'll be fun. Yeah. So our show on Sunday night, we'll get to talk about that, and Angelina potentially will be here. Can't... Never know. She's kind of a loose cannon. Man, I'm telling you.

She's tentatively saying she's going to be here, so we'll see. In a few weeks, I know Mickey's schedule loosens up, so Mickey will be visiting, possibly. Oh, that would be cool. Yeah. And hopefully also soon we're going to get back in Jennifer. Oh, that's good, yes. I need to start shooting with her and have some fun with some other guys. Yeah. Some threesomes. Foursomes, fivesomes, sixomes. I'm a little bit, I don't know if I can hand on juggle all those cocks and balls. You know what? You go through this thing sometimes. There's days like, oh, my God, I'm just so tired. I don't know.

I really, I might just cancel this play date today and everything else. I'm just like, really tired. My back hurts. My toes hurt. My toes hurt. I have a hang day. But man, as soon as those fucking guys showed a fuck up, it's like, hi. Come here. Fuck my ass. Fuck my ass. It's like, you know, and then the crowd goes wild that's really that was probably better it fuck my ass but anyway I gotta label those buttons yes you do so but um it's funny if you don't label them because it's like, I don't know what your fuck this is. What kind of reaction are we going to get here? I don't fucking know.

I don't fucking know. I walked in the room. They were all so excited. I meant. That's what really happened. No, I actually think if... Yeah, because she's played with like five guys at once. Wow. Now, again, it's not all at once. I mean, you can only have so much going on. I only have so many holds and hands and toes. Well, but the thing is, if we got like four or five guys... If I lay on my back, I can use my feet in a strategic way. Sure. You people with ten toes. Yeah. Jealous. Used to be. But the thing is, if it's you and her and there's five guys... That's easier.

That's a little more equal equation. Yeah, it's like two and a half per girl. Well, she isn't into anal yet, so you can at least take care of two that way and one, you know. Oh, yeah. But, you know, she says she wants to do the anal thing. Yeah, that takes a little bit of getting into. We did do a show on that easing into anal, so it does take a little bit. Yeah, that's a very popular show, by the way. Yeah, because it does take a little bit. I listen to it over and over again. I'm trying. You're trying to do anal? You're trying to give anal or receive anal?

I'm going to just stay out of that response. How's that? Maybe it's imagination. Imagination. I know what that answer is. Nope. There's a big sign that says, accidentally, do not enter. Do not enter. That's it. Try it, I'd kill you. But, so anyway. All right. Wow, we killed almost an hour. That's fine. That's fine. So our new schedule is going to be Sunday night. It will be our live show. Sure. And then we're going to post on Wednesday mornings. Okay. And then Friday mornings. All right. Kind of keeps it a little more even. Yeah. Because we are doing Sunday.

A lot of people don't listen live Sunday here at Fresh on Monday. And then there was a new show on Tuesday. So we're going to kind of space it out a little. So it'll be Sunday night. Right. Which for a lot of people. Will be Monday.'ll be Monday. And then the next fresh show will be a Wednesday, and then the next fresh show will be on Friday mornings. That makes sense. All right. I'm glad you let me in on this. I'm keeping you abreast. Oh, there you go. Keeping you a tit. Here you go. My abreast. Again, we're putting a blog in our website at hotwifepodcast.com. Check that out.

I haven't even seen it yet, so I don't even know. Yeah, I just have something in there saying, hey, we're doing a blog. Oh, wow, that sounds exciting. Oh, yeah, there's tons of responses there. As well as we started adding, we joined the Amazon affiliate program. Sure. So there's some products. They're all obviously sex-based, outfits and toys. We'll be adding more as we go. They're the same price you would pay on Amazon. There's no discount. They're not inflated or anything else. They just throw us a couple, you know, a dollar maybe or something like that if you buy something.

So we ask if you have interest in buying some of this stuff, go to our site, go to hotwifepodcast.com and click on one of the things we have on there. One of the items for sale, you mean? Yeah, one of the things, it's not on sale. That's why they're there to buy. It's what Amazon has, They're the same prices. They're not anything different. And if you buy it, if we have something on there you like, buy it. And then they throw us 50 cents or a dollar or something like that. Whatever it is. I don't agree with that. We appreciate anything to help us.

And again, we ask you, tell your friends about the show. See if you can get a couple more people listening. It's obviously happened, and we appreciate that. It's amazing. Yeah. And, again, Michael, thank you again for reaching out and asking what my favorite bourbon and cigar. So you're going to start doing that now, what bourbon and cigar you're going to do? Yeah. No cigar tonight, so. No, I had them before, not on the show. I don't smoke on the show, in the studio. Too much electronics in here. Yeah, it's true. I get it. I smoke them outside the studio on the deck. Oh, was that nice. Yeah.

So, again, I want to thank everyone. And we'll talk to you on Sunday night. So enjoy your weekend and your Father's Day. So if you are a father, enjoy it. I know my daughters bring me great happiness. And I hope your children do the same for you. Yep. It's a special day for you, dad and everybody have a great night. We'll see you next time.