Is using sex to advance your career a good idea?

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hello everybody this is donna lynn and welcome to my hot white podcast thanks donna oh, and of course, here's my smart-ass husband, Vince. Hello. Being a usual smart-ass that he is. Yep, that's me. Yep, that's true. Someone's got to be. Keeps life very interesting on this side. My boss is finding that out. He just keeps shaking his head.

Well, he hired you, so who who's fault that people he's hired since me have you know proven to be shit so i told him i said dude you should not do any more hiring if there's ever excuse you look at me let alone just me let alone the two other fuckers you hired that wind up quitting well uh well you know sometimes people put on the best front they put their best foot forward then you think oh this would be a good first hint should have been when he did his zoom interview they could tell he wasn't wearing pants he was wearing his underwear dress shirt and underwear it's like no i'm sorry just put some sweat pants on i mean how hard is it how hard is it put some pants on well apparently for him it was tough and i think i might i don't know whatever he worked for us and he had some bathroom issues he liked to shit himself i'm convinced too but anyway that's it that's his prerogative hey man people are into that that is that.

That is not a sexy thing to talk about. No, it's not. But it makes you giggle, obviously. It's like there's all types out there. When you're in sales and you're dealing with customers and you smell like you pooped yourself. That's not good. Day after day. It wasn't like an accident, okay? You know, don't trust a fart after a certain age, okay?

Yeah, I've gone through we all have we've all had those moments and if you haven't you will um it's the joys of getting older but or uh doing lots of anal of his truth mine was just getting older i don't care what they say how does me fucking you and yes make me shit myself? I don't know. I don't know, but it happens. Apparently. Yeah, no, he was just like, dude, you ruined your clothes. Go home. Okay, we all make mistakes, and you spill stuff on you, whatever. But when you do it day after day. I think, like, extra clothes. Maybe he's wearing the pants. I don't know. Oh.

Anyway, let's get to the swinger stuff. That's not sexy at all. Hey, you want to reach out to us? Yeah, you want to reach out to us?

I don't know oh anyway let's get to the swinger stuff hey you want to reach out to us yeah you want to reach out to us it's hot white podcast no it's not you're new here oh I'm sorry it's oh oh I'm sorry it is hot white pot no it's info at oh okay oh my god we're taking auditions for new Well Well you can change, it's been changed several times Changed twice It was hotwifepodcast.gmail.com That's what I was thinking It still works Then don't bitch at me if I use that one We've been pumped I know, I know Keep us up, I'm not going to let you suck my dick later Oh boy, okay, i'll behave see that puts me right in line yeah see just take away what they want and we shape up real quick yeah you know you have a magic cock oh jesus christ here we go that again check out that episode anyway info at hot wave podcast love to hear from you good bad or indifferent um you know you have topics um like the gentleman wrote back to us that he liked that show we did for him with the tips for single mail oh good i'm glad and uh you know he talks about how he doesn't belong to any of the websites he actually tends to go to a lot of nudist places and stuff like that and he meets people and that works for him that's great oh okay i'm not saying that can't work i'm just saying you gotta have you gotta have a game to do that right you gotta be able to you know talk and which is great you know no i mean we know people that like we just had one the other day that contacted us or tried to to, on SLS.

Oh, SLS, okay. And his total note, first time reaching out to us was, she's a hot... Mom. It's like... She's a sexy mom-mom, I thought you'd say. Whatever, sexy mom-mom. Whatever. Use the term mom-mom in a sentence. See, that was a term of endearment I used for my grandmother, so I cringed a little bit at that. You know, it was mom-mom and pop-pop. I'll talk to you soon.

see that was a term of endearment i used for my grandmother so i cringed a little bit at that you know it was mama okay that's yeah but still how about hey hello my name is whatever it is you know i'd love to meet you i'm into i really enjoy mature women that look as sexy as your wife does boom okay we're gonna we're gonna have correspondence yep you sit there and say oh one sexy mama blocked it's like you're probably like what did i guess this is more tips for single men that what you shouldn't do so and again we got one the other day another one right that was like oh i'd love to fuck her oh god here we go again block block so whatever there's things not to do but um today's topic is oh you came up with this one i'm not exactly sure how to describe it but i'll try it's a go ahead yeah it's um now that we're um in the lifestyle and swinging would we have used used sex to- Are you more likely to?

More likely to use sex to- If the options on table. Yeah, if the options on- There you go. Maybe you should explain it. Would you use sex to further your career, whatever? Yeah. So in other words, if you're working at a company, I don't know what company that would be, but you're working at a company, and your boss flirts with you. Right. And you know you're technically allowed to play with him outside of work. Exactly. Don't do it on a desk like you have.

And would you, with the chance that it could get you a raise, not only his raise, but get you a payment raise, or, you know, further your potential advancement in the company? I did play with that one co-worker. But he didn't have the power to.

He didn't have the power, didn't have the power but I can make you more powerful than he was it was low level management yeah he was but after he became more of a I can't say manager but a manager of sorts he was a real dick to me so I would definitely use caution in having any kind of sexual tryst in the workplace sure no I mean first off I think Thank you. definitely use caution in having any kind of sexual tryst in the workplace. Sure. No, I mean, first off, I think that's whether you have permission from your significant other or not, I think it's a tricky thing. Yeah. I mean, I never.

You don't want to ruin their relationship. Right, exactly. And I never told anybody about us, ever. You just did. Oh, to all of these. Six billion people. Yeah, exactly. Inside joke, don't worry about it. Yeah, so I never told anybody about it, and he never told anybody about it either. So I just feel like after that, he looked at me differently. He was embarrassed. I don't know what it was.

It wasn't something he was into right it was just something he thought i was hanging out yeah well he came over your hang we were all hanging out right and it just got drunk and kind of happened right exactly but it wasn't pre-planned no no but we went out on a walk it was just he and i and i'm like okay we played once i said i thought we had a good time i would like to you know do again. Or, you know, what do you think? And he's like, Don, I'm just, you know, I just, you know, really wasn't into it. I'm like, okay. And then we were like. So you cream-pied me. I think you were kind of.

Kind of into it. You were into it in a few ways. Yeah, but he, and after that, like, we were talking about things and and he's like, oh, we mentioned something about some kind of sexual, some sexual activity, and I was like, I kind of was like, poo-pooed it, and he's like, Donna, it's me you're talking to. I know you're a freak. And I'm like, I am not a freak. It's like. Well, he was, you know, to basically describe this gentleman, he was a good-looking, he still was, I'm guessing, I'm going to say, he's still a good-looking guy. He was in great shape back then. Well, we all would change.

He's now moved to a different state, so we have no idea what he is or is. Yeah, exactly. But he was a good-looking guy, and he was so much the womanizer. Oh, yes. He absolutely was. To sit there and say, you're a freak for fucking other people, well, he was fucking every woman he could. He literally had a harem. Literally had a harem. And if one girl wasn't available, he'd call up another one. And there's one girl who's so in love with him. And she was a sweet girl. She was really sweet. I think he treated her pretty shitty. Well, you know what the thing was? We're just friends with benefits.

Well, she was cute. some of the other girls he was banging were pretty hot pretty hot she was just cute right but yeah whatever um but i i would be very cautious about that i mean i think now and being in the swinger world and and this is not advice oh no we're just talking amongst us yeah well this these are just this is just a topic to talk about it's talking amongst us. Yeah, well, these are just our experience. This is just a topic to talk about. It's something you could talk about with your significant other or whatever because you do run the risk of potentially losing your job. Yes.

So I think if you're going to be in the lifestyle, you could potentially further something else, not a career, but maybe I don't even know what you'd further besides your career, but you might be able to get other benefits. I'd be trying to get a pay increase. Yeah, but I mean, let's say it's not a work situation. Let's say you could use the whole swing thing to get you into a bar or get you better drinks or lower prices on things. How about this? How about this? Hey, you're self-employed. Sure. Okay? Outside of what we do here. Right. This isn't really employment. Employment, this is fine.

We can't buy groceries with the money we make with this. That's fine. Which is cool. We've told before this has meant just to be therapy for us, and it is.

But anyway, as if you had clients that you know were friendly and everything else and you weren't opposed to their uh hints or oncomings or whatever you want to call it right you know um flirtatious stuff you know would you consider banging them that you know would help you maybe endear you to them more so maybe they're more likely to favor your business that's a possibility that's i mean again it could it could go awry but as long as they don't um i guess what I'm trying to say is as long as they don't have feelings for you that they become possessive and they decide all of a sudden, oh, I want you for myself.

You're old, you'll leave your husband, blah. Yeah, that's different. You don't know where these people are now. If they're in the lifestyle as well, then that's different. Then you think and have these open conversations. But if they're vanilla, you have to kind of tread carefully because you kind of have to educate them quickly or you have to educate them in the world of the lifestyle and what our boundaries are and what we consider okay. Well, okay, do you think, let's pretend there was Joe, Joe Bunyak. Oh, that old Joe Bunyak. Joe Bunyak. Okay.

So he owns XYZ Company and you've done some work for him. Right. And he has flirted Joe Bunyak. Okay. So he owns XYZ Company, and you've done some work for him. Right. And he has flirted with you pretty heavy. Okay? And you sit there and go, hey, Joe. He'd be fine. Right. Well, hey, Joe. How about we do this? How about we go out for a drink, and I'll bring Vince, and the three of us go out for a drink. And then something like you and I could introduce, like you sit there and say, Joe, it's pretty obvious you want to get inside my pants. Let's get started. And three of us go out for a drink.

And then something like you and I could introduce, like you sit there and you say, Joe, it's pretty obvious you want to get inside my pants. Right. And then we have to. I'm just going to let you know that Vince and I are in the lifestyle. Right. And that could happen. You know.

So when you make it, it's like, okay, I'm interested in you for, because you're a good looking guy and everything everything else fun to play with or whatever it'd be fun and but you know and not making it so business oriented right no tit for that or no no kind of what it happens yeah exactly you know i mean it it could certainly it could backfire either way yeah it could backfire that's what i'm saying or very interesting. It could be like, you know. It could be a guy, he thinks he's all macho shit. And, you know, he gets embarrassed because inside of three strokes, he pops his load. Well.

And then he's going to be embarrassed and doesn't want to see you again. So all of a sudden, he's like. Oh, yeah, they're going to see anything I want to business-wise with him. Yeah, I would definitely shy away from anything business related when it comes to sex you don't you don't shit where you eat you know i mean i would definitely it's just a topic of conversation that i mean you're now that you know um you know i'm saying looking at it from a uh being in the lifestyle point of view. Right. You know, and again, you're not saying it up where it's like, okay, Bob, you know, or Joe.

Whatever. Joe Bunyak. You know, every Tuesday we'll meet and do this, you know, and Wednesday I expect you to put some work on my table. You know, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, you know, it's one of those things like, you know, it's like, oh, hey, everyone's a blue moon. We can get together and slap nasties and have some fun. You know, it doesn't have to be a regimented type of thing. It's not a regular thing. Right, right. You know, but again, if the person is married, I think I would shy away from it. Oh, absolutely. I have to find out.

If they're single or divorced or, you know, whatever. Yeah, that would be. And if they're, you know, a better situation, if they were in the lifestyle as well.

If not, like I said, i have to find single or divorced or you know whatever yeah that would be and if they're you know a better situation we if they were in the lifestyle as well if if not like i said you have to tread lightly yeah i mean most people once they uh vanilla people when they find out you're in the lifestyle sometimes they get a little bit like oh that's really weird or he they get kind of creeped out they think well again we've done the show about myths of swingers. Oh, you fuck anything. You're a swinger, you fuck everybody in anything, you know?

You're a walking case of, you know, venereal disease, you know? Your middle initial is V, D. So, but, yeah, it's just an interesting concept of, like, would you or would I if, you know, she had to be a woman who wouldn't have to, you know. Right, right. They could never have owned a penis. Okay, we made that clear. Well, I think the fantasy is really exciting. You know. Sure.

You know, bringing somebody vanilla into the fold from a, like, a work environment or something that's not sexual and and that's very exciting that's has it's definitely titillating it's very interesting it could be a lot of fun but it also could be pretty um it could be devastating if you're not careful so i think the fantasy again is always works works out better than the reality yeah Yeah. I'm just saying it's an interesting concept of like, well, you know, it's someone that, you know, okay, Joe Bunyak is single. Right. And, you know, he throws work my way once every six months.

You know, he's a good-looking guy. Yeah. It might be fun, and who knows, maybe I get work every other month, you know.

Yeah, I mean, you don't know which way it's gonna go i mean there have been uh we've been out to dinner where what waitresses have flirted with you and i i i this is a little while i must have been missing that one no and they seemed a lot of fun and we both of us were like hey i wonder if she i wonder you know what would she think if oh it was that it was that one we were in a little pub in the town that's like north of us and i remember the waitress was saying um oh god something about being a sub oh she was a teacher she said she was a sub and you and you were just right on top of your head oh who's your dom and she was like what what and i was like oh holy cow i i caught that one but i don't know what she did if she would have put teacher with it that'd be one thing but she didn't put teacher to it she just put she was she said she was a teacher but she's i'm a sub and you're like oh who's your dom and i was, she could just teach subs.

I don't know. I don't know. But I think that she was a little bit put off. But there have been other ones that have embraced that kind of thing. Yeah, I don't remember the restaurant. But you have to remind me later. But yeah. It was the pub. Okay. The pub. Oh. So many the pubs around. So yeah, I mean, that was kind of, I just remember that. I was like, oh, my God. So that little... I vaguely remember that. Oh, I remember like it was yesterday. Are you kidding me? The look on her face was... It wasn't like... She was mortified. She was like, what?

She just couldn't believe you said that to her. She could... I'll take your order and then I'm out of here. You have a sense of humor, bitch. Yeah, yeah. But there were a couple that have been pretty flirtatious with you or us. And I always thought, okay, what would happen if we were to say, like, hey, you know? Yeah. If it's summertime, come over for a swim and have a couple drinks, blah. You never know. Yeah. You know, sometimes they're being flirtatious and they get a bigger tip. Biggest I got, so I can offer. But that's the same kind of a thing. A waitress might be a little bit.

Well, you had it when you danced. Oh, yeah, the more flirtatious you are. The more flirtatious you are, the more money you made. Exactly. Yeah, you know. I mean, so in a way, that is, I'm looking at just a slightly different version of it. Right. You're doing more than flirting. Right, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, it's, you know, interesting concept. Yeah, and, yeah, I guess now that I'm more open to the lifestyle, I might have been a little more flirtatious in certain circumstances, depending on the situation. I don't remember if we covered that. What's that? I think we did early on shows.

I mean, first of all, we're approaching our fourth season. Get out of here. January 10th was our first show. Ever. Three years ago. So we're starting our fourth season this January 10th. Wow. Okay. Four years of us. Unbelievable. But I was gonna say oh no we i think we talked about we may not have done it on air but i think we did talked about how you know you were dating other people you know again you and our just friends when you were dancing And we did definitely talk about the bachelor parties being different.

But, you know, again, how much more in the dancing realm do you think you could have made now? Okay, let's say you were back being 35. And we were both in a swing lifestyle back then. And you and I together at 35, and we're swingers at the time. Do you think you would have been a little more, I'll use the term, aggressive? Well, again, the bars themselves have their own rules, so you have to do it within those confines, otherwise you get fired. However, I definitely would have been bringing home more women. I would get you back in dancing. What's that?

How about get back into dancing there you go well we can just go on sls this is a little easier now i don't have to but um yeah i mean i think i would have been a little more aggressive absolutely because i always had boyfriends that were like i don't want you dancing on they like the money they're like the money i brought home but they were always very possessive jealous you know it's like when i met you when you're like not possessive not jealous no not even a little bit nope you know it actually takes that's kind of a unique situation um i don't want to get off the topic too much but when people someone will write and complain i know but and complain.

I know, but every time I tell people that, or you tell people that you're not possessive, you're not jealous, and then if they're not in the lifestyle, they don't understand the lifestyle, they're like, how can you let her do? How can you let her? And it's like, no, he's not letting me. I'm doing it myself. I don't own her. Yeah, that's it. That's it. You just let me do whatever I want, and I'm here.

here i'm not going anywhere but not to kick a dead horse right you know the whole thing we talked about with swinging is um that if you're afraid of your mate is going to leave you because of an orgasm they're going to leave you because it's more than an orgasm oh true that's true if you're not being the best mate and again this, this goes from either way, of to your mate, they're not happy. They're going to leave you for, it's obviously more than just a sexual thing. Yeah.

So whether you're in the lifestyle or not, if you're afraid that your mate is going to leave you for a better orgasm, then you need to look at the big picture stuff, micromanage it. Yeah, that's very true. That's very, very true. And usually, sex usually isn't the issue. There's usually something else underlying that's the issue. Usually. Yeah, usually. That's what I'm saying. Whether it be your spending habits, it could be your inattentiveness to them, it could be how you don't help around the house. It could be financial issues. It could be a lot of things. It could be a lot of things.

We're not. But I think for me, just taking that off the table, like if I am attracted to a guy and I, you know, and I want to have sex with him, I'm allowed to. And it just takes that whole thing of, you know, sneaking around. And you always want something you can't have. Yeah. You know, this just takes it right off the table. It just takes it off the table. How many women want me and they can't have me? You just play hard to get, don't you, dear? Apparently. They're not even trying. Oh, come on. That's terrible. But, I mean, it just adds, for me, a level of security.

Not less security, but more security, because that problem is taken off the table. If you want to have somebody over to play with, you're allowed to. You have done it. I have done it many times, you know, in the hot day. Well, that's why, like, you know, I don't have to be there for every play session. I think it's fun that you have your time with whoever you want to be with for that time. And that's great. And I think it's wonderful. Sure. But it takes that whole stigma and, you know, in the back of your mind, oh, he's going to cheat on me or this or that. It's not there. No.

It doesn insecurity of that looming when you tell somebody or ask like the woman when Jay was here two months ago I think it was more than that but whatever you know it was one of those things like hey Jay wants to come by and play and you're like okay cool have fun hey is it okay I'm like absolutely say, hey, is it okay? I'm like, absolutely. Well, but again, it's, I mean, I knew the answer, but I asked, out of respect. Yeah. You know, I wouldn't just bring somebody in and, you know, by the way, you know, I mean, whatever. We've talked about that in the past. Oh, yeah.

Well, I did have that one surprise that one guy came over early. I thought I did tell you, and you're like, oh, you didn't tell me he was coming over that doesn't bother me no no you may you may have told me yeah i got early onset whatever dementia old fart disease i mean you know so i again i have you liked it though you're like oh i like that surprise i'm like it really wasn't a surprise i did tell you no it was more erotic as a surprise Yeah, see? But whatever. You're an odd duck. Yeah, I'm a lot of odd things. So. But it's, yeah, I mean, it's not an issue for us. For us, it's not an issue.

Yeah, you know, because you and I both know if one of us plays with somebody without telling the other one up front, we're going to tell you at the back end. Right, exactly. Again, our rules are safety and truth. Yep, that's it. That's it. Pretty simple. That works for us. Hopefully it works for you. And whatever your rules are, you need to establish them and work within them. Right, exactly.

And make sure you share them with the other people involved in it oh yeah we had that little incident at the pool yes that we weren't aware of their rules they broke the rules and somehow we i got blamed dude you know if i'm supposed to ask someone i was eating your wife's pussy in front of you if was supposed to ask permission to do it, first of all, you shouldn't have had her come over and put her twat in my face. Second of all, you should have said, hey, you should ask me. Then I'd say, hey, my mouth is full of your wife's pussy. I'll talk to you later. No, I would have said that.

But beforehand, you need to tell people, here people here are our rules well we never had to ask permission we don't have rules we need to share yeah other than no choking no choking that's it that's the only rule that and if you know usually if they start to do that i can just deflect them and say oh yeah we don't do that and then it's fine but i mean that's really important it's getting back to the topic of you know we're in a lifestyle and you're bringing somebody in who's vanilla who doesn't hasn't experienced this you got to lay down a little bit of groundwork so they know what they're getting into and sometimes like people think i i found people that are not in a lifestyle and you tell them what they're doing like oh that's so cool that's so hot that's of this and that and then when the rubber hits the asphalt screech stop that's it it's like what Thank you.

not in their lifestyle, and you tell them what they're doing, like, oh, that's so cool, that's so hot, that's so this and that. And then when the rubber hits the asphalt, screech, stop, that's it. It's like, what? You thought it was so cool before. What happened? I think a lot of people, they think the fantasy of being in the lifestyle or experiencing that is very erotic, but the actual reality, again, it's very intimidating because they're out of the realm. Especially it's like, oh, I'm allowed to have sex with your wife and you don't care.

Oh, it's not that I don't care, but I'm trusting you. But you're trusting, right, exactly. You don't mind. So your approval of it, you approve of it. So that's, you know, I just think they get really intimidated. we've had people that we explained that we're in the lifestyle and they just stopped talking to us yeah it's like maybe we shouldn't be so forthcoming about it lifestyle because some people i think they think like when we explain like hey we're in the lifestyle blah i think they think that we want to have sex with them and that that's not necessarily the case. Well, look at Mickey.

Right. Back when we first met her, I never said boo to her about it. Oh, no. She approached us and said, you guys seem so free and easy and everything else. You just appear to be what my mind's swingers would be like. I was like, yeah. Yeah, she was right. I never hit on her. No.

I mean, joking something to her but nothing you know it was never anything serious she was quote unquote happily married and whatever and again it's like when before you and i got together it's just like i'm not of her quality i'm old enough to be almost her dad right right um but um you know but she you know it wasn't uh wasn't that that stereotypical thing where you know it's like oh you fuck everybody no i don't fuck everybody now we're a little more discerning than that yeah but in here now she's full-blown into it on her own right she's kind of backed off now. She missed her right.

Yeah, that happens. Yeah, that's fine. You know, it's fun playing in the pool. Magic dick appeared. Or whatever. Or sometimes you get really wrapped up. It wasn't that episode. Anyway. You get really wrapped up in things, and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, I have to back off. Life takes control, so you've got to back it off again. But yeah, I think, I think if I was doing the sexual things I was doing before, I would probably be a little more aggressive now that I'm in the lifestyle. Well, you would use your sexuality more. That would probably be the better way.

You would use your sexuality more to make money back when you were dancing. I thought I was doing it then, but now it's like. But now you you could i could if they i was interested the clubs wouldn't allow you to but you'd probably be more willing to be daring about it yeah you definitely could have found some other possible stunt decks to shoot video with oh hell yeah oh my god yeah that would absolutely yeah that would be interesting that would be very interesting yeah That would, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. That would be interesting. That would be very interesting. Yeah.

But just something to think about. Just something kind of like, you know, we just, topics we kind of like toss out and would you do things differently? Maybe I would, maybe I wouldn't. Yeah. And for people who might be listening who aren't in the lifestyle, a single person, or maybe not a single person, but if you're someone listening that you're not in the lifestyle, and let's say you're in a relationship, would you, obviously if you're listening, you have interest in the lifestyle.

So would you, you could, I'm not saying you don't love your partner right you could back up and do it over again would you try to find someone that would be more interested in being in the lifestyle like okay that's a fair question for you we're changing a topic again for those taking notes who want to write in go to hell okay it's a free form like i said before this show is a free form conversation between don and i you know we're not a new show we don't say okay well now this segment we're going to cover um okay what's what was your question did you forget it no i know exactly okay good it's remotely related related um so the question is So if you could go back, no, no.

I know exactly what it is. Okay, good. It's remotely related. Okay. So the question is, so if you could go back, put you at 25 with the knowledge you have now, would you now start looking to date back then guys that would be interested in the lifestyle? Yes, absolutely. In fact, that would be the only way. The only guys I would date would have to be in the lifestyle. Yeah. And I find it, yeah, I couldn't be in a relationship now unless I was in with a woman that has always been a woman and is interested in the lifestyle. Yeah. I mean, not to keep beating the dead horse.

I've been with the guys that have been either overprotective or they wanted me to they wanted me to do things their way and they wouldn't be under their thumb and they wanted to be in control of my life. And the more you try to control me, the more aggressive and rebellious I'm going to be. I can't control myself. Why would I control you? Exactly.

So not that all guys or all people in their lifestyle are laid back and more accepting but it tends to be what my experience has been that tends to be the case may they may not be into something but they're definitely open for discussion about that topic whether they are into it or not and i think sex is more fun in the lifestyle because it opens you up with and there's nothing wrong with monogamy. No, there's nothing wrong with it.

And I'm not saying my scenario here is the case, but the aspect of the beauty of, to me, of the lifestyle besides sampling different tastes, let's put it that way, is you could sit there and sit your horizon. Let's say you're into BDSM, or you want to try BDSM. Exactly. Or you sit there and go, like, hey, honey, I know you're not into anal, but I really want to try fucking another woman in the ass, or a woman in the ass, period. Right. Or, hey, I want to DP somebody, or, hey, I want to, you know. Exactly.

You know, there's, you get to go into the ice cream store and basically sample everything they have. If you want. And so can your partner. Yep, yep. Whereas in monogamy, and again, I'm not saying anything wrong with that, you sit there and it's like, well, my wife, like, I'll speak to my best friend. yeah his wife is very oh she's gorgeous great body and and just she is very white bread i mean vanilla isn't vanilla enough it's it's too much flavor yeah she's been with one man that's her husband that's it period you And that's great. Period. You know, but my friend has... Desires.

He has taste buds to sample other things. Right, exactly. And one of those samples, he wants to see her be shared with other men and women. And she did share herself one time with another woman, they were drunk. She had a great time, but then afterwards was like so embarrassed by it, that's like, nope, nope, never going to happen again, don't even think about it, don't even decide to talk about it.

I don't even think about it don't even decide to talk about it see i wonder in a case like that if people don't feel like they're now she's come from a kind of a religious background she came from a very strict catholic so that might have something she really probably feels like she dirtied herself and now she's going the exact opposite direction now Now, when I had my first lesbian experience, I wanted to do it all the time. I felt liberated. I'm sure you did. So I was like, oh, when can I do this again? I know I feel like such a dirty girl, but I like it.

If orgasms were so horrible, they wouldn't feel so great. I mean, mean, the goal is to achieve as many orgasms as you can. Well, that's, yeah, that's not a bad goal to have. I can think of worse goals. I can think of worse things. But, I mean, it's not like you're hurting, as long as you're not hurting anybody, what's the problem? What do a lot of people think, like men especially, like, oh, if I won the lottery, I won $100 million. Right. They want to travel the world and fuck all sorts of women. Why? Because they know they'll get pretty women, so they can have more orgasms.

You know, with pretty women. I don't see anything wrong with that. Most things invented have found a sexual use right off the bat. Right off the bat. Maybe that wasn't the original intention, but oh yeah, it was used for sex. So, I mean was i mean we're driven by you know what's one of the best stress relieves an orgasm well it's right up there with um just being a human you know you you have need for shelter you have a need to eat and have you know water and then you need my cock sheltered in your you go, I have sex. I need to eat your pussy. Everything comes down to my pussy. Okay, a pussy.

A pussy. Okay, I was trying to make you special, but you're not. No, I don't have to be special. I'll be part of your harem. Hair on my pillow, hair on my brush. Oh, yeah, that's more like a...

a hair in my soup all right okay we did this one okay we beat this one to death hopefully you had fun with that something to think about i know there's a couple topics there we didn't stay on topic sorry that's my fault no it's it's what we do this is a free flow conversation there is no i'm sure we had another person in the room it would have taken it gone even far yeah it This is a free flow conversation. There is no script. I'm sure if we had another person in the room, it would have taken another- Oh, it would have gone even far- Yeah, it would have gone off track. So that's how it is.

All right, people. Stay horny. Have a great night, everybody.