Is it good to be obsessed with someone?

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Hi, this is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wife Podcast, where we discuss all the good, the bad, and the really erotic of the swinger lifestyle. Hello, everybody. This is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wife Podcast.

And, of course, I'm here with my wonderful husband vince oh boy come on don't sound so excited how come when we're not on the show it's not wonderful no asshole i never say that to your face yes you do no you're usually in the other room well okay see but it's not to your face so a quick shout out to our friend Jay oh yes you got a special little I got a bottle of bourbon from our my new favorite fan there you go of course Stephen's my favorite fan too because when he was here he bought a couple bottles of bourbon so there you go so again thank you Jay beautiful bottle of 1792 very good bourbon I will enjoy every drop of that and be thinking of you and say what else I'll be doing while I'm doing that but I'll just say I'll be thinking of you thinking that's a nice way of putting it she sends me more videos I'll really be thinking of her.

We'll be thinking very hard. If I don't drink too much bourbon, yeah. Sometimes, yeah, it works the opposite, doesn't it? Yeah, you know, whiskey dick. Whiskey dick. Anyway, so again, thank you, Jay. And, you know, we're... That was very, very nice. Yeah. She didn't need to do that. I make jokes about people sending bourbon. Let me know if you want to. You can email us at hotwifepodcasts at gmail.com. We will take all bottles of bourbon. She took you serious. Yeah. That's nice. I'd like to take her orally, vaguely, you know, whatever it takes, whatever she takes. That's true. All right.

So you have a topic for us today? Yes. Is it possible to be addicted to a person? Okay. Like a severe crush. Um, I think this is even more beyond that. Okay. Almost dangerously. Sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes sometimes yeah sometimes i could go you know people they get fixated on people and we know somebody going through that kind of now that's why i picked this topic i was like just going through um i kind of stumbled upon it really it actually we could expand on the topic um not only a person, but a certain thing. Sure. Yeah.

You know, I mean, okay, you could be, easy for me to say, and it's midday. I'm not drinking it. I have a job interview in a couple hours, so I can't when I get home, though. Different story.

Not only addicted to a person, but there are girls who, like, all they want are big cocks right you know all they want to do is be you know like angelina she just she wants fucking rough sex yes you know that's her addiction she don't come and be all romantic and passionate get the fuck away from me is what she'll tell you yeah yeah that's uh she likes it yeah she um it's primal or something like that yeah it's really primal it's it's almost damn near rape in a way yeah to me it would be yeah but we'll get into that so yeah so okay so you you got this article so yeah i stumbled actually stumbled on i just like it came up like in one of my feeds i I mean, it literally was like very random.

And it said at the top, is it really possible to be addicted to another person? And they said, in short, yes, it is very possible. And they say that this addiction compulsion can do something in the way that it makes you feel like a certain way. Usually it floods the brain.

It says here, these happy doing air quotes here such as dopamine and oxytocin so it's a chemical roofies yeah it's like definitely a chemical thing in your brain that make you feel good so that person that thing what that's any addiction isn't it any addiction sure i can this just happens to be with a person or maybe an act yeah it could be or an element i'll put it that way you know where it's like okay hey i just want big dicks or hey i want exactly guys who are into rough sex exactly or whatever i mean but this is beyond just yeah but then it rolls your life no but same but you want to roll your life, yeah, it becomes, it can be disruptive to the rest of your life.

Sure. And they do do a little, I'll just quick read here. Addiction specialists believe that addiction can occur with anything that a person can subsequently suffer from an unhealthy addiction to anything or anyone.

So this an unhealthy attraction and the difference between love and addiction is the addiction the addiction to a person may make make you feel like love to you but manifests in unhealthy ways and then they give you a list of all the unhealthy ways that it manifests so there's all kinds of things that they compare and contrast between the addiction and and love so that's kind of a so there's definitely a difference oh i think if you're addicted you can interpret it to be a love oh sure that's what they're saying yeah you can see it as love or interpret as love but it's when it starts like you said interrupting your life and and causing you to do unhealthy things you know like um here's a they just give like a little rundown of the characteristics of a loving relationship which is healthy uh healthy boundaries are easy to keep you know like um uh like so if you if somebody told me hey i really like you but i don't want you to find out where i live i don't you know and i go and i stalk you that's unhealthy you know these kind of things like those kind of boundaries you can't keep if you are an unhealthy kind of attraction okay and well we're we're referencing this to things we've seen well yeah that's just what i'm saying is we're like if you're in a relationship and you become addicted to someone outside of the relationship that's kind of where we're headed with this yes not not like you're single and you become addicted with something that that's a different thing you have all sorts of leeway um angelina was telling me yesterday when she was here um about a friend of hers um that is suffering from a sexual addiction and she is married with children, this woman, but she is like addicted to this gentleman apparently.

Um, and you know, and she knows it's wrong and she knows she's risking her family and everything else but she is just like apparently from what i'm told again i'm hearing this second third hand whatever exactly i don't know names like exactly you know or whatever don't care it's no one i know um but that you know she's like you know in angelina of all people who's got a sex addiction yeah exactly telling her you know but it's different angelina's single right her kids are grown and out of the house this this We'll be right back.

you know in angelina of all people who's got a sex addiction yeah exactly telling her you know but it's different angelina's single right her kids are grown and out of the house this this woman um is uh married with younger children at home and is not even being careful it's not like um she has this you know fascination with this person and is just, like, sneaking out occasionally to go play. No, this is something, like, apparently, like, just fucking, she just, a band is, they don't even know where she goes. She says, oh, I just had to run out and go do something.

It's like, well, you didn't tell us. You don't answer your phone, you know? It's like, she's just.

Getting sketch she's just getting sketchy yeah that's a lot of red flags going up there well and again i don't i i didn't i'm not sure if it was one person she does this or just like apparently i think she's on sites to find other people to fuck her like she's addicted to sex um and uh you know it addiction can be bad obviously oh yeah and everything can be addicting everything it's a mental addiction it's uh i mean like i i enjoy cigars uh and i know guys who are addicted cigars and cigars aren't chemically uh addictive no not like cigarettes Yeah, but there are just guys that mentally feel they have to smoke a cigar all the time.

And, you know, whatever. Yeah, cigarettes have chemicals and crap in them. Cigars don't. Cigars are all natural, but still. God willing, they should be, yes. Yeah, they should be um and you don't inhale them right you're smart but uh anyway so yeah the the and again we know somebody that uh met somebody they're still in a relationship right and um had met a bunch of people but something about this one person and this one person initially threw up red flags to them yeah because they were being kind of Thank you.

had met a bunch of people but something about this one person and this one person initially threw up red flags to them yeah because they were being kind of addicted yeah they've already went past the boundaries but yeah again like it was like hey you know this person said hey listen i'm married and everything else this is just what i'm doing for fun on the side and this mate was like you know well where do you live well you don't need to know where exactly and this person Thank you.

everything else this is just what i'm doing for fun on the side and this mate was like you know well you know where do you live well you don't need to know where exactly and this person somehow hunted them down found out their last name found out where you know yeah see that's i i've told people you know i told this person i told this person it's like you know people we've played with i could not tell you their last name i don't even know if the name i'm calling them is the right name i don't care no it's just like let's get together slap nasties and you know go about our way exactly i don't need to know your intimate details but apparently this person did see that's the whole that's when i started reading this that threw up the red flag for me i was like oh sure but you know then you know and then what's happening now is initially the person i talked to that had this problem with this other person was like, yeah, I need to blow them off.

I can't, you know, but sex is so good with them. And I'm like, you know, Glenn Close and Michael Douglas in that movie was a great sex, too. But, you know, a bunny got boiled. A bunny got boiled.

You know, so it's one of those things like and now the funny thing is that was that attraction right yes yeah that that in this relationship i'm talking about it's that person's still married but now that person kind of has an addiction to that person and they're already talking while this person's still in their married relationship with kids they're're already setting up like, well, once I get my partner to move out of the house and we get the divorce proceeding started, I can't wait to move in with this person. It's like you haven't even had a real relationship with this person yet.

You're not even out of a relationship yet. Stop basing everything on the orgasm. Mm hmm. You talk about that. But none of my business exactly now i one of the things you can relate to is you have a playmate that is actually i'll use the term former playmate it's been a long time since you played with him he just did a webcam with you uh other day. Oh, okay. Okay? He's not local. Yeah, not local. He's out in the center of the state somewhere. Right. And, you know, he's openly obsessed with you. Oh, yeah, he is.

He talks about, like, a polyamorous relationship, and we should get a hotel, and I could spend the whole weekend with him, and somehow he wants you to be involved in this.

I don't know i i just i am i'm involved i say no i'm not a polyamorous person nope i i told him that's not gonna work it's just i don't mind sharing temporarily but no dude no no polyamorous here there's no feelings there he's a nice guy he's you know but that's that's as far as it goes well there's some aspects too that uh it's a little too clingy i'm not comfortable with yeah yeah and he's too clingy with me his gate used to go one way now it's kind of going both ways the latch broke and the latch broke on his gate and the and the wind is making that gate go all sides and just like no it just flapping in the breeze right no i don't want to have to bury another body oh stop it with the burying the bodies you're so full of shit there's no bodies buried on our property that i know of don't mind that four foot eleven hole yeah okay with your name with my name on a stick thanks i appreciate that i put the name on stick so you would see it so you don't fall in the hole oh there you go thank you thank you but going back to this there's a lot of things that you just talked about in a loving relationship a normal healthy relationship you respect the other person's privacy and we saw in that other one that relationship you just talked about sure there is no respect for the first person's privacy they literally went out there and stalked them i mean if somebody did that to me boy i would shut them out so quick that would just that scared the shit out of me yeah you you sought out my last name which you didn't know how did you find that and then you found out where i lived stalking oh my god i would that's unhealthy right there very unhealthy yeah yeah i yeah i don't go for that yeah he had to have somehow gotten her license plate and somehow ran it some way he might have a friend yeah or maybe went to one of those web websites we can check do background checks you can get anything nowadays here's another thing it's another red flag and in relation to what we were just talking about.

Now, this is in with a loving relationship. So no one in your life is concerned with your level of involvement with them. See, we aren't concerned with her involvement with this other person because we don't know where it's going to go. This could get really scary. But she's a mature person.

She can you know the person's got it yeah that i've got it i don't want someone telling me how to lead my life yep but plenty of people try yeah well we're outside looking in and saying my god something's there are a lot of red flags there there's an addictive element that i find i'm i'm very uncomfortable with it yeah i think because what the person craves is something they weren't getting in their primary relationship so in the search to find that exactly they found it temporarily with this yeah with this person right and they're construing it as i think that this is love and and everything else it's like you know you haven't We'll see you next time.

person and they're construing it as I think that this is love and everything else it's like you know you haven't spent you know you haven't spent 24 hours in a row with the person this person can't but if they were like go away for a weekend with them go actually you know open up the bathroom door after they took a shit see if you still love them seriously I don't fucking know. It's all roses. Everything's, oh, yeah. But all of a sudden, when you're laying in bed sleeping, all of a sudden, it's like, oh, Jesus Christ. Where did you shit the bed? I've only done that once. Come on.

Yeah, once last night. But that's a different story. It's a different show. Yeah, so this is a lot of. There's a lot, you know, until you find out, do they throw their dirty underwear in the hamper or does it wind up on the floor? Exactly. You know, do they do their dishes? Right. You know, does he expect me to wait on him or her hand and foot? Uh-huh. You know? All right, we also think about it.

exactly you know do they do their dishes right you know does he expect me to wait on him or her hand and foot you know uh all of a sudden you go wait this is the same shit i went through and again you might be getting that affection now that passion that romance everything else but you know six months a year down the road all of a sudden it's like okay the novelty's over uh-huh and now all of a sudden what you deem also is great sex all of a sudden it's like okay that's it was special it's like what we've said uh-huh you know if you had flaming on every day right initially it's like fuck yeah man i'm getting this flaming on i'm getting a lobster tail all of a sudden it's like oh great lobster tail and steak again yeah oh god we have any bologna yeah Yeah, exactly.

How about the peanut butter and jelly? What kind of jelly do we got? I want something different. You know, all of a sudden something special ain't special. Yeah, yeah. And I honestly believe that swinging, that kind of is what it's about. It's about being able to sample. It's like going to a buffet. That's exactly like that. You sit there and it's like, okay, I'm going to this buffet. You know what? I can have steak or I can go have country fried chicken or I can have spaghetti. I can have what, you know, I don't have to have meatloaf every fucking night. Unless it's really good meatloaf.

I haven't had really good gravy mashed potatoes. I haven't had good meatloaf in a long time. The cost of beef, it's cheaper to get a goddamn steak. Yeah, you're right. You're right. What is ground beef? What is that commercial? Oh, what is hamburger? Chopped ham? No, it's chopped steak. That's the commercial. That's the commercial. I can't think without alcohol. It's terrible. This is another episode of Vince being sober. It's awful. Stop that. It's against my general principles. So I'm going through this list here.

I'm trying to think of something that we can really relate to um i i don't i don't know if this is true we're not addictive no i'm not addicted to anything it's it's like okay the addictive relationship you feel uncomfortable or like you can't handle life if they aren't there now in an instance i know that i do if something would happen to you and you weren't in my life i would be scrambling i mean five minutes no it's not true i mean you'd be scrambling eggs that's all she can cook scrambled eggs no i mean she would just eat scrambled eggs and steamed vegetables that's it i'm good with that no just other things i mean i need you as a partner in my life just in general i mean i have that it's on recording now and so you're setting up your alibi like i don't know where he went i don't know where he went i don't know why he left his head here left his head here the rest of them went someplace i don't know where he went he's always losing his head god damn you know what a scatterbrain is keep that thing attached and he did and so there you go he never listens to me but yeah i mean i would feel very uncomfortable and and i i really do need you in my life but i mean and i need you but you know i mean not an addictive i can't suck my own dick no i don't mean i'm being serious now oh my i can't i'm trying you're not that limber dude you gotta keep that's what i'm saying i cannot suck my own dick that's what i'm saying and i can't eat my own pussy so there you go although i'm stretching i am too i'm stretching religiously no offense you're not gonna stretch that much no i can't stretch that far but yeah i mean i really need you in my life and um yeah see this is another addictive personality trait that i don't think i yeah but if you know when something happens to me which is going to happen eventually yeah exactly i mean yes we're all upset and everything else but we realize that life's temporary it is temporary these people get obsessed man it's just like you can't be out of their sight for a moment and that becomes and that rolls back into the jealousy non-trusting thing you become that obsessed exactly you know you're you don't trust you want to know where they are every minute every second that's the other thing this this person was texting our friend who are you with what are you doing are you fucking them who are you fucking today what you know it's like whoa yeah but i almost think that person was doing it as in for an arousal yeah it wasn't like a i don't trust you type of a thing to my knowledge again i'm not privy i'm not there for all the conversations i don't want to be another thing that we talked about with text messages you don't know what the inflection is is it done like hey it's not it's like or it's like who are you fucking or who are you i'm hearing it secondhand yeah that's okay so there's something lost in translation potentially sure absolutely you know but i mean yeah there's a little red flags for me that if somebody were doing that to me like if i had a playmate who's like you know hey who are you fucking today i'll be like okay how do you mean that yeah all right uh are you being like one of the things we go through we have a couple guys who have um they just think because you have played with them right that i'm open almost like you're doing like they're doing you a favor to come over and fuck you right exactly yeah you know and it's just like hey how about i come over and fuck your wife it's like how about i come over and bash your head Thank you very much.

Thank over and fuck you. Right, exactly. And it's just like, hey, how about I come over and fuck your wife? It's like, how about I come over and bash your head in? How about no? Yeah, how about no? You could be an ignorant bastard now. We established this as a friendship thing. This is not a... Right, exactly. I don't need someone to come fuck my wife. I find that very insulting. Yeah. I do. And that's when they get blocked.

Yeah yeah they get blocked and that's it you know so now they're fucked not in a good way yeah especially this one guy i'm talking about in particular you know he's a good looking guy uh and everything else but he apparently doesn't have much luck getting women well that's maybe there's a hint you know maybe stop being an arrogant fuck you know but you know um yeah don't be um that whole uh pushy attitude i find a big turnoff and and it kind of plays into this addictive thing and people keep pushing me and think, Hey, what, Hey, I'll have, I come over and fuck you. How about now?

How about what are you doing tonight? How about I come over and fuck you? I want to do this. And then they start, you know, getting like too, I don't know, too aggressive. I, and we've talked about the whole single male thing before. And that's, those are the select few. Yes. That ruin it. But we had this, we have one gentleman that came over the other day.

He said to us before, Hey, you guys are doing work, running the you need help give me a call sure and you gave him a call and he came over and helped there was no playing he had to leave early and you had to leave yeah so you know and my back was shot at that point anyway so we all collectively came to a conclusion that okay we got some work done and we're all done we're all done but you know you'll make it up to him at some point i'm sure oh sure absolutely he's always a lot of fun yeah he's a great guy even just to hang out with he really is so that's so nice but back to the addictive thing um yeah it to me like and i've said this with so many different aspects of life you know like uh, you know, if you all of a sudden wake up one day and you like, and punish yourself if this ever happens, if you ever wake up and you're like, you know what, I think children are kind of sexy.

No, sorry. No, uh-uh, man. Go get a baseball bat and cave your skull in. You know, if you have some kind of urge that, you know, is not right and you know, it's not right because you have to know it's not right because you have to hide these things. Right. Exactly. If you're this obsessed with someone like, oh my God, what are they doing? Which is you need to go get help. Yes. And don't act on it. Just, I mean, act on getting help.

Don't don't act on doing doing yes whatever the obsession might be exactly you know um you know stop yeah it really bothers me i would like to think if if something happened to me that um i start having these ill obsessions right that i would have enough mental, which is, that's hard for me to do that I could ever have that. Your cognitive of your sickness. But that I would sit there and go, you know what, I got to go see someone. I haven't done anything. I'm not going to jail yet. And I don't want to go to jail with these thoughts.

I don't want to go to jail because I was obsessed over somebody and I had to, you know, want to know what they were doing every minute and second. It's like, oh, no one can have you if I can't have you. Yeah, that's not good, not healthy. No, I would sit there and like, okay, I need some fucking help. Yeah. Well, on the same line as that is one of the other characteristics of an addictive relationship is that you think that they're the only person that you could ever love. You know, it's like it's what you just said. Thank you.

one of the other characteristics of an addictive relationship is that you think that they're the only person that you could ever love you know it's like and it's what you just said if i can't have you no one's going to have you type of thing because you're the only person that i can love and it's like that's so unhealthy that's really sad that's really sad and uh here there's one that just uh reiterate what we talked about earlier a little bit you feel jealous or upset if they do anything outside the relationship and that was the same thing like with these text messages so what are you doing now who are you with what do you know again we don't know the inflection so it could be unhealthy or it could just be like you know something you know um you know how how you always like it when uh you don't if i go on a hot date you don't really know what's going on so you kind of like in your mind you're thinking oh what is she doing now is she being a dirty girl but that's different there's a whole same same verbiage but it's a definitely a different well let's actually tell it what it is i actually sit there and like did she bring me home leftovers what did she get I hope she doesn't eat the whole thing I hope she saved me the better part yeah i'm tired when she gets a sundae and comes home it's all fucking melancholy she gives me a glass of milk and tells me she brought me home some of her ice cream you're not getting that no didn't work for you no i didn't buy it i get a salad i bring home like wilted lettuce and soggy chocolate milk we said i could think okay it was a hot food sunday at one point you don't like my my uh salad that i bring home in a doggy bag is wilted lettuce and soggy croutons that's not a salad that's that was the bedding underneath the steak you ate how did you know that because most salad isn't bloody I don't know.

I don you ate. How did you know that? Because most salad isn't bloody. Oh, wait, there's one more thing with this unhealthy characteristic. This will play into it. Friends and loved ones from your life, before this person are worried about you and you may be in less frequent contact with them as well. Like you cut off like all your ties from people from your former life and start focusing on this one person. And we, and we're kind of seeing it.

When your friends don't want to be around him or you anymore, you know, um, yeah, you have to ask yourself like is this person really healthy yeah is he a healthy element in my life yeah and and we're seeing it right here i mean this is uh you know it's like same thing all over again and they say like the reason why you're attracted to this person is because they're you're seeking a high which is like it's like a drug it is like a drug this person can be very exciting the sex is exciting you know the things that you're doing are exciting they're new she's not like you like you said before you're not getting that those kind of things in your former relationship so i mean this is and it makes sense that you this other person is you know he gives you all kinds of uh compliments and flowers you with um compliments and takes you places and you're doing things with them and but you're not getting that in your old relationship so yeah this is definitely gonna be more attractive to you but it doesn't mean it's healthy yeah i mean doesn't necessarily mean it's healthy i wish we had some kind of advice to tell you how to get the fuck out of it i do not once you're in a relationship and someone is that obsessed with you getting out of it is tough i don't know i don't i don't know if this article um covers it covers that it doesn't well i mean it's gonna be a case-by-case basis oh sure sure you know i mean because you know there's people that are like no if i can't have you or they're gonna be like they're gonna be like no you just give me another try give me another try and you know yeah yeah again like i talked about there's also the obsession with certain aspects you know like angelina part of her addiction is she wants that rough sex it's not so much a person right she has her obsession with her ideal visual right yeah but she demands more a certain style of sex that's her obsession yeah she wants to be choked and whatever she just wants she wants it rough yeah however you just whatever it's not your standard fucking you know it's more like sex.

Yeah, it is more like that. And it's like, wow. That's her thing. And I'm not going to say that's wrong. I'm going to say it's wrong for me. It's definitely wrong for me. But I'm not going to say it's wrong. Exactly. I just don't find that attractive. No, I have no interest in that. But again, like I said, there's women that all they want are big cocks or all they want are black cocks or all they want are BDSM things. We've seen it where some guys, we've talked about this a few times now, some guys, well, they can't come by blowjobs. All they want is penetration. They don't even want oral.

Some guys, all they want to do is fuck hard.

some guys well they can't come by blowjob so they you know all they want is penetration they don't even want oral right uh some guys all they want to do is fuck hard right some guys all they want to do is jerk off to come you know they want to fuck but they want to finish by jerking off it's like everyone has a level of some obsession sure you know it's well it depends on again there's a difference between what you like and then when it starts to go into an addictive or an addiction that's when it starts interfering with your regular life then it becomes an addiction becomes unhealthy sure i mean we all like things done a certain way you know like i like to be on top i am i am i addicted to it not really no but that's that's what i like and they're all things that we do like but it's a fine line when it becomes healthy and then when it becomes unhealthy and when it starts interrupting your life and becomes so you're so focused on that thing that everything else is secondary then we're going to start having problems and it becomes an unhealthy activity and uh i guess i guess people also who look at swingers as like, we're all sex addicts.

You know, like, we'll fuck anything. And we've already disproved that as a myth anyway. Yeah, a lot of women haven't fucked me. But it's the truth. Yeah, see? So they're not all sex crazed. They're lost. They're lost. Sometimes you have to lower your standards. You have to change it up. I'm getting ready to get one of those orange kettles and a bell and make it Salvation Army. Give me a charity. Charity fucks. Oh,. No, not going to work. Well, it might. I don't know. I'll try. I don't know. That could be a kink in and of itself. See, here's a bonus to swinging world versus being single.

I just thought of this. What's that? Swinging world, you kind of get to prove that what you're going to play with, what they were when they were born. born. Nowadays in the dating world, you might go pick up what you might think is a woman at a bar and get home and it's like, that's not original equipment. Yeah. This motor has been reworked. I only like to drive original.

I want the ones that came from the factory with a pussy but people in this swinging world also were i i would think are gonna be more comfortable with the alternative lifestyle stuff and more upfront with it like if you're bisexual woman's gonna tell you the bisexual guy's gonna tell you hey i do have you hey i do have some bi tendencies if they are someone who has done a transition thing right you will know they will tell you up front yeah they're i think they're more honest with it because it's not like you're going to a bar and someone's like no i've always been a woman your adam's apple doesn't tell me that exactly because i i think the swing world there's the balls hanging out the bottom of your short skirt not selling not selling well i i think people in this in the swinging community are probably more accepting of it they may be like hey i appreciate that's what you like i'm not into that and move on sure yeah you don have to disguise it and I don't know how you could disguise it anyway but how do we get off topic with this I don't know I don't know but you said people in the swinging world I'm just being a little more honest I think in general but again rules out that oh we'll fuck anybody yeah exactly because I am proof that they don't well you wouldn't fuck just anybody anyway I mean I wouldn't either and we have a rule that Thank you.

Exactly, because... I am proof that they don't. Well, you wouldn't fuck just anybody anyway. I mean, I wouldn't either. No. And we have a rule that we don't take one for the team. They yell rape, I don't touch them. You're like, I'm done. I'm out of here. Fine, be that way. You're a loss. We could have just stopped with pepper spray, but no. That's not an aphrodisiac, dear. We've already been through that. It's a seasoning. A seasoning. Yeah, you brought your sandwich. Oh, you want it spicy. Okay. There you go. You like to kiss me and it will make me a little spicy? I get you. Okay.

You like that pepper. You're like, mm. It tastes pretty good, too. Does my aftershave smell like chloroform? No. Maybe that's that stuff that... Yeah, don't talk about it. No, that was a chloroform. That was Sarah Ipecac. Oh, God. We had a gentleman, I think we talked about this, that came into the studio the other week and was wearing enough cologne for like eight people. And after he left, the futon still reeked like it. The whole studio smelled like this aftershave, cologne, whatever you want to fucking call it, for days. And you could taste it. It was so thick in the air.

So we had to take the cover off of the futon and wash it. Wash it and put a new cover on. It's like, come on. That was that's getting off topic but yeah that was pretty awful just sharing more of our life oh man don't do that yeah don't do that but anyway so yeah so all right so yeah the obsession thing again i mean there's been movies about this stuff oh yeah they even talk about it in here like movies and songs and stuff and it sounds romantic but, but it's not cool in real life. It's not cool in real life at all. No.

If you're someone who suffers from this or is dealing with this, that you're obsessed with a person or a thing or whatever, you might want to get some help. You might. Maybe no. I don't know.

I think you think you should uh because you know when you have something like that you know rule your life i mean look at alcoholism you lose their jobs lose their families drug addiction all this is the same thing you can become addicted with sex or i mean you know porn has an addiction apparently um oh yeah and stuff like that that it ruins people's lives and uh you know just because you enjoy something doesn't mean it has to become your life it should be something that adds to your life and if it's a person you want that person to add to your life you don't need them to become your life exactly okay um so well we see it with women who stay in abusive relationships you know even say a word i'll smack you you know oh but i love him i can make him change no you're walking right back into a hornet's nest you're not you're not gonna make him change you can't you can't get in line of all the women said they could do that yeah so um yeah you just you just said that it can impact the rest of your life you know like work school whatever yeah because you're putting less energy to and you're concentrating on this one person so yeah you just said that very well actually so yeah you're right that certain person needs to be a part of your life like a spice in food you don't want to over spice your food so it's all you taste is that one spice i like salt and pepper on my food let's say whatever it is right but i don't want to taste only salt and pepper exactly you know it's meant to enhance it not right not to overpower and consume it that's where we got off the uh aftershave aftershave yeah don't just don't don't do that it's supposed to be a slight hint that someone up close to you could smell it not the person 100 yards away exactly exactly so yeah we've kind of beat and if you're listening you know who you are that's true but yeah i guess people can be addicted to people and we've seen it like in our little in our little world.

Again, they can be addicted to people. They can be addicted to so many things. Different aspects, yeah. But, yeah, I mean, you have to look at things. You don't have to. I suggest you look at things as an enhancement, not a life. Exactly. Again, I love Donna to death. I mean, I'll kill her soon.

Oh, you really shouldn't say that even though i know you're kidding right look at that that evil demonic look i don't know maybe he means it so if i go missing he did it oh like i wouldn't be the first suspect exactly but um no i mean you know again we're all here for a very short time you know what and you can become as obsessed with someone as you want but eventually they're not going to be here by whatever means exactly so what are you going to do when that person isn't here you know exactly we're all here short time man enjoy the ride and help other people enjoy the ride too don't ruin the ride you know right it's it's a lot of fun but so don't fuck it up man you know just enjoy it yeah go with the flow but help everyone enjoy it don't fuck it up for others you know it's like in school man don't fuck it up don't fuck recess up for everybody just because you're bad the teacher's gonna punish all punish all of us no man just yeah relax we can all have fun you can enjoy that person or thing in your life without thinking that that is the end-all be-all you know so that's true that's a very wise thing to say there Vince I gotta head back up to my mountain and sit there I think could you have done the same thing if you're drinking bourbon yeah yeah probably a bit deeper this is something I've felt this way we've had this discussion, uh, off air for years now about people that are obsessed and stuff.

And, um, you know, again, I, uh, you know, in all truth, I have years past had a drinking problem. Um, and it was one of those moments I came to, I got tired of being sick and tired. Yeah, exactly. I hear that a lot. And I just stopped drinking for five years and um and then uh you know i never now you're back to it No, not at all.

yeah exactly i hear that a lot and i just stopped drinking for five years and um and then uh you know but now you're back to it no not like i was not like i was uh if i was drinking the way it was that bottle i just received today would be empty already um yeah but uh so you know i learned that I can still have those enjoyments without over-enjoying and not screwing up everything, you know? Yeah, it makes sense. And that's what people have to do, you know? Enjoy the person. You know, you might enjoy that person you're so obsessed with more than they enjoy you. And you know what?

Because you're being overbearing, they're not going to enjoy you. And then they're going to want to get away from you, which makes your enjoyment more difficult to enjoy. If you enjoy them respectfully and – what's the word I want to use? Within constraints. Within constraints. With proportions. There's actually a better word. I just can't think of it at the moment.

That's because i'm sober um that's you know it's like uh you know that it makes it more enjoyable you get more out of it you know it's like cigars for me i don't smoke a cigar every day no you know um but you know that way between them even bourbon i don't drink bourbon every day uh some days i drink vodka um but the okay mix it up yeah well you gotta clean your palate absolutely but uh no and that's exactly it you know it's kind of like that with like cigars if i go a few days a week or whatever without a cigar when i revisit a cigar all of a sudden my palate's like oh my god okay you got that back you got you notice the little things it's the same thing if you don't smother yourself in somebody that when you get to have that quality time with them I'll see you next time.

that back you got you notice little things and it's the same thing if you don't smother yourself in somebody that when you get to have that quality time with them all of a sudden you sit there and it's like oh no i forgot how you know it's so cute the way she looks my nuts so cute the way she you know whatever yeah whatever subtle hint not so subtle was subtle oh no it was subtle what was subtle the way it was so cute that she looks the way she licks your nuts that's nice I knew you'd like that yeah you're right can we get it in the show here we go again so anyway again if you have someone that is obsessed with you or whatever please try to help them I don't know how you could get out a relationship like that yeah i guess if.

And if you're somebody that is that obsessed, step back, man. Chill. Take a look at this. I'm pushing this person probably away by being this obsessed. I don't need to climb up their ass and live in their colon. I really don't. That's awful. I just had that imagery. It's like, that's terrible. Why would you say that?

Just i just had that imagery it's like that's terrible why would you say that just came in my head see it's the same shit comes to my head when i drink so this is what's in my head this is frightening yeah this is very frightening it's like the other day with the podcast with the oh stop that's terrible that's just what comes in my. I don't pre-plan it. So anyway, but one thing we didn't do today is a little plug for Spunk Lube. Oh, no, we didn't do that. So again, can't urge you enough. If you're going to get that person living in your colon, you're going to want to lube up with Spunk Lube.

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