In this episode of the Hot Wife Podcast, hosts Donna and Vince engage in a candid conversation with guests Tim and Brooke about their experiences in the swinging lifestyle. They explore themes of jealousy, emotional connections, and the dynamics of open relationships. The discussion delves into the excitement of new experiences, the importance of communication, and how swinging can enhance intimacy between partners. The guests share their journey into the lifestyle, the challenges they've faced, and their fantasies for the future, all while emphasizing the significance of trust and mutual respect in their relationships. In this engaging conversation, the speakers delve into the complexities of open relationships, exploring themes of jealousy, trust, and communication. They share personal anecdotes about their experiences, the thrill of keeping secrets, and the importance of navigating boundaries in their lifestyle choices. The discussion highlights the evolution of their journey, emphasizing the significance of mutual understanding and the joy of exploring new experiences together.TakeawaysThe podcast emphasizes that the views expressed are opinions, not professional advice.Technical difficulties can happen, but they add humor to the conversation.Jealousy is a common topic in open relationships and needs to be addressed.Exploring the lifestyle often starts with curiosity and experimentation.Communication is key in navigating emotions and connections in swinging.The excitement of new experiences can enhance intimacy between partners.Watching a partner with someone else can be pleasurable for both.The novelty of new partners can create excitement in relationships.Not all experiences in swinging are positive, but they can be learning opportunities.Trust and mutual respect are essential for a successful swinging dynamic. The thrill of having a secret can enhance intimacy.Jealousy is a natural feeling that can be managed.Open communication is crucial in navigating open relationships.Experiences outside the norm can strengthen a relationship.Trust is built through shared experiences and understanding.Exploring boundaries can lead to personal growth.The importance of discretion in lifestyle choices.Every relationship is unique and should be approached individually.The journey of exploring new experiences is ongoing.Good communication can lead to deeper connections.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/hot-wife-podcast-and-the-swinger-lifestyle--5343522/support. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Welcome to the Hot Wife Podcast, where we dive into discussions about relationships, intimacy, and everything in between. Before we begin, we want to make it clear that the views expressed on this podcast are solely those of the host and guests, and should be taken as opinions, not professional or medical advice. Additionally, we remind all listeners that this podcast is intended for adults over the age of 18. Unauthorized rebroadcast of this show is strictly prohibited without the written permission of the owners of Hot Wife Podcast. Now let's heat things up.
hello everybody this is donna lynn and welcome to my hot wife podcast um i think we're having some technical difficulties here already tonight. It's a Monday. Yeah, that's true. But of course, I'm here with my ever-loving husband, Vince. Ever-loving. Yeah, I'm so lucky. Yeah, sure. And what he's doing is holding up a phone to the microphone because we have two special guests on the other line.
But it looks really's like we can't get them to go through the board so it's just a technical thing this time sorry guys first time we've had someone call in since we're just bored a lot of bumps in the road people don't generally want to talk to us but they do email us and that's how we actually got to meet tim and brooke is they emailed us um and again, that's info at hotwifepodcast.com. We look forward to hearing from you. And hopefully these two will be a lesson that we're not here to chew you up or make fun of you. No. We do that with each other. With each other, absolutely.
A nice segue, by the way. I like that. Yeah, almost professional. Yeah, man. I was like, oh, impressive. You want to introduce them? Yes. We have Tim and Brooke on the other line. Like Vince was saying, they wrote in to us with some questions. So we're just going to see how they got into the lifestyle and what their experiences were or are. And we can go from there. So say hello to everybody, Tim, Brooke.
and make sure you speak clearly because the phone sometimes can be garbled yes hello and uh thank you very much for having us avid listeners uh definitely since we we bumped past so uh look forward to speaking with you tonight wow okay that's perfect that's very clear good awesome obviously he's intoxicated that he enjoys the show well we're working on it no that's you know first steps admit you have a problem and so now how did you find the show uh yeah so uh part of the the email that i sent you guys with the questions it was uh on a topic of kind of a jealousy in the open relationship space, and I'm a researcher by heart, so I, you know, started searching that topic on a podcast.
I have quite the long drive to work every day, so kind of dived in and found one that your episode popped up, listened to it, really liked it, and thought I'd talk to you guys more by sending out an email. Oh, wow. That's awesome. And we actually were able to help? Yes, yes, definitely. He didn't say that. Oh, okay. Sometimes I think we're leading people down the wrong path, so I apologize. My first question is, how long have you been in the lifestyle and what got you into it? I would say probably off and on, six to seven years and, you know, in and out for sure.
I think what got us into it, probably your stereotypical story of, you know, out with some friends, you know, drinking, having a good time.
uh you know it started with you know same room same couple play where the girls kind um you know drinking having a good time uh you know it started with you know same room same couple play where the girls kind of you know had some fun and thought that was cool and us guys of course felt the same and then uh you know after the experience it was it was a good time we started talking about it and you know hey are you curious about doing this some more and you know brooke was thinking you know am i bi curious am i bisexual and um you know, hey, are you curious about doing this some more?
And, you know, Brooke was thinking, you know, am I bi-curious? Am I bisexual? And, you know, so we started kind of down that path. And it grew to where we are today. And we've got experience in just about every scenario, I think. So is Brooke still curious? Not curious anymore. I think I've kind of figured it out.
There go there you go my experiences with both have been fun so good i'm curious there you go not curious anymore not curious anymore i was like that once by certified by certified so so you said what six years seven years you said yeah i'd say about yeah okay awesome what so how did you get into it yeah so that's you know if I can jog my memory back then so again we had that fun night and then you know a lot of tough conversations I think at the beginning you know where I was like hey I really you know enjoyed watching you with another woman that was fun um would you ever want to try that again and of course her immediate reaction is you just want to have another girl in the picture which is true yeah you know how we all right it's like give me your man card if you said no exactly and um then we kind of uh dabbled in you know trying to find people on these apps right and that that was a whole experience of you know pros and cons for sure but we were able to you know meet a a nice young lady to talk with and grab a couple drinks and you know that led to some fun experiences but uh unfortunately she moved away and then you know tried it again with that same couple um that we met that one night we're kind of ventured into you know same couple same room then we were into you know full swapping and things like that um so that was fun and yeah i think our our dream dynamic is finding a couple that um you know we both vibe with but with four people in the in the mix rather than three sometimes it's a little bit harder sure that's what we found too yeah but so you know currently now we each kind of have a play partner of the um the opposite sex for us that we that we invite in for uh threesomes and you know our our real only rule right now is is kind of we play together uh sexually and physically but uh on other terms of kind of what i read it brought into you guys is that we were able to communicate and and kind of chat and flirt with uh with the other people on the side yeah yeah it's still fun i i try not to get um i don't be carried away with it and i can understand where that could be a problem but uh yeah we've seen people we have seen people yeah they go over the edge and actually my first marriage uh we were kind of in the lifestyle put it that way and she my ex-wife got too involved in it and was you know back then we didn't have texting we had chat rooms chat rooms right she was on the computer all the goddamn time and she was just she wouldn't even turn her back to talk to me she's busy chatting with these guys and um we were having problems and i said okay we need to stop this and she wound up you know had five boyfriends on the side and was getting romantic with one of them so that was uh so when i gave you some of my opinions on the advice it was based on some of what i've been through uh obviously everybody's scenario is different but um and that absolutely is is the the scary part right and it's the you know it's never the physical uh physicalness of our experiences that ever i mean obviously in the moment you're like hey she's doing that a lot better than she's ever done that with me and you know or something like that to that nature and I'm sure vice versa for for Brooke but um you know those those feelings I feel like are fleeting and you get over that pretty quick uh in the moment and and it's all fun you know it's the building those connections outside and you know brooke has had two guys kind of where you know physical attraction uh heavily to one you know and then in more of a you know chatting emotional connection to the other and it's like well what if they came in the same package you know or something like that but yeah i think it was Great on Tim's end, just like, hey, hey, what's up with this?
And he kind of talked through it, and obviously that has changed. I mean, this was very new, so obviously it's exciting, but it's kind of like every few days you can chat with that person. It's not something that you wake up in the morning and say good morning and say good night. It's nothing like that, because that is when it gets too carried away. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Yeah, we always look at swinging. We've mentioned it on the shows about it's like filet mignon or lobster. You know, if we had it every day, it's not special. Right.
You know, it's one of those things you might want once, twice a month, or whatever, month or whatever in our case not everybody's case i mean we know plenty of people that try to make play dates every day and you know everyone's got their own thing um but you know for us it's just a little extra spice that enhances our relationship um but it doesn't become something we base our life on. Right. I agree. We actually do this podcast with more religion than we do swinging. That's perfect.
And that's, you know, what I've found too is exciting about this is, you know, oftentimes our experiences are super fun, but then, you know, the days leading up to them and the days after, you know, we're more intimate and, and sexual at those times, you know, and it's, it kind of brings us both together and, and yeah, it's a lot of fun. Yeah, I agree. That's what I like after, uh, Vince and I play, it's the same thing. It's like, after that, you talk about it when you're together or whatever it is. And it does, it brings you, it does bring you closer together.
it's really erotic when you can both like after a play session um yeah you're playing around you talk about it you know she can share with you how it was erotic with this or that or seeing this or that and i return it it's like oh man like like you know i've said it before i i'm uh by a photographer and videographer, and so by nature, I'm a voyeur. So I get very aroused watching Donna give and or receive pleasure from another man or men or team. Stop it. You know, half the town. Half the town. Thanks, Vince. But, you know, so for me, it's very erotic.
So when we get together and play afterwards, um, it's, it's incredible. And then, like you said, um, for days afterwards, our sexual, um, excitement is so much higher. Absolutely. So, yeah.
Now, do you enjoy watching your wife being pleased or giving pleasure i do yes and i'm i'm very much of a pleaser uh as well and you know i i want to be there for her pleasure uh you know get her get her going and with the the teamwork of the other man is is great and I loved watching and what I found to be, you know, when I went during the act was actually watching her with the, you know, giving blowjob to the other guy while I was having sex with her and that was like wow, I've never seen this angle before you know, I've never, you know and it was very sexy and it was a good time Now Brooke, do you feel the same way do you enjoy watching him yeah i can say the same thing in my most recent experience with uh threesome it was another girl and him and yes that definitely got me going which that was the first time i think i've ever experienced that and it kind of blew my mind to be honest so yes i liked that cool that's really cool one thing and again we've talked about this um might even been part of the one show you heard um that it's going to be more exciting when your partner's with somebody else for them but it's the newness might not necessarily be there any better uh you know they could be bigger tighter smaller or whatever but it doesn't mean that it's the newness the rawness of this exciting of a new conquest we'll call it sometimes that's much more exciting than than you can interpret sometimes you think oh my god she's she's having orgasms after orgasm with this guy and she doesn't do that with me well you're kind of old news ouch well you're you're comfortable shoes yeah you know yeah and but now you don't realize that after that exciting thing you go back and play on on your own, you'll get residual.
Yeah, it does kick it up a notch. And I got to do that, too, with the texting and stuff with her, too. You know, she'd get horny all day and come home at night and play with me, which was great. But, you know, one thing that you said, too, is that, you know, our situation might be different than some people in the true swinger world where they can play separately.
But when we play together, you know, something I had to think about, too, is that you know our situation might be different than some people in the true swinger world where they can play separately but when we play together you know something that I had to think about too is that you know if it was just him you know maybe he wouldn't have been as successful uh in getting her off that many times you know so I have to look myself in the mirror and say like hey I was there too I was participating I was helping so that was you know part of our scenario too of you know it was newness exciting but also you know the the dual dualness of it yeah definitely and you'll you'll find what your uh your comfort level is going to expand and change potentially i can't say for sure but like you know originally it was just don and i there was i mean you know i had to be there and everything else but we've moved into the point thus the name hot wiping um where donna has you know with guys we know and that she's played with in front of me and i trust that's a very important part um she goes out on hot dates with them you know and i kind of find that very erotic because you know i know she's out a nice dinner or whatever, and then I know they're going to go and play, you know.
And then she comes home to me, and she'll tell me the story of it, or sometimes, if I'm lucky, she'll take pictures or something like that during the play session and tease me with it, which I find very erotic. Yes, I know. Absolutely. That sounds awesome.
And when Brooke was, you was you know in her i thought more bisexual than vicarious time you know we used to set up dates to her to go out with girls and and i same i would maybe get a picture or two while they were kind of out on dates and then back playing and and i thought that was super hot and i potentially probably could move into that with with a male in the future for sure yeah well again it's everything evolves trust is a big thing it's that's you know as long as you trust these people it's it's good i just i feel very comfortable we've been lucky with the playmates i go on hot dates with so and it took a while we did a lot of vetting a lot of uh figuring out who would who would be trustworthy and you know who who would be fun to go on a date with too so well first rule first of all i have to notice if you're comfortable with them right exactly then i have to be comfortable with them and they have to understand that they hurt you i will kill them I keep a 55-gallon drum of lime around for a reason.
Perfect. We've never had that problem. I'm half a saying, and, you know, it's a, you know, what do you mean? Not for nothing, but, you know. Have you guys had a bad experience yet? I wasn't necessarily a bad experience. We met another woman out, had a drink with her, and then met her out again. Then she ended up coming back and playing with us. But she was a really nice girl, but we just didn't vibe with her.
So we just respectfully told her that you know we weren't really feeling it and she was totally cool with it and that's bad so I wouldn't consider that a bad experience I think that's just probably maybe a normal experience in this space sure yeah the connection you know sometimes in talking and things I mean I wouldn't call it a great connection we had with her. She was kind of a little more shy and timid, but, you know, sometimes those are the most fun when you get them in their room. But unfortunately, with her, that wasn't the case. She was kind of, kind of maybe not at our speed for both.
So, but again, that was still a positive experience and fun. Yeah. Yeah, we've had a few bad experiences. Yeah, we've had... Sometimes meeting people. Yeah, sorry. We had a bad club experience. We've had, you know... Yeah, I think we talked about the bad club experience. But, yeah, I hope you guys never have a bad experience. But it can't feel bad if you meet with people and it's just not there.
right but like we met with uh one couple in particular we've talked about a couple times that everything was going well but there was no chemistry there was no intention of chemistry apparently um but you know we were talking at dinner and had a nice conversation walked out to the parking lot you know he comes over he shakes my hand he goes over gives donna a hug and a kiss she goes over give donna a hug and a kiss and then she walks away didn't even say goodbye to me like it was just so rude like okay you know wasn't looking to get a handful of anything just went like hey have a good night hey thanks it was nice meeting you it's it's sad when that happens you know i feel like the majority of the people that we've and we're very private about this part of our lives you know and our friends and family and obviously See you next week.
it's it's sad when that happens you know i feel like the majority of the people that we've and we're very private about this part of our lives you know and our friends and family and obviously those things you know nobody knows but it's it because we feel like the people who are in this lifestyle are actually usually more you know kind and friendly and open-minded and and things like that but you know the bad experiences we've i don't know if we put ourselves out there maybe as much as you guys have and put yourselves in those situations to be able to have a bad experience so i've maybe we're fortunate for that but yeah i think the people in this in this lifestyle have been great yeah no that's nice most of them yeah i'd say 95 yeah absolutely yeah but i mean you're going to find good and bad everywhere no doubt so there's two questions one was going to be okay um what are there any fantasies you guys haven't done yet that you want to do this is i expect two answers one from you all right want to go first you can go oh boy um you know in my fantasy has always been as we talked about like watching her get pleasure so i think um you know when we invite a woman in we've always focused on it being a bisexual or a bicarious woman that will play with both of us and um definitely gets gets me off and gets me going again watching and seeing her play and Thank you.
bisexual or a bicarious woman that will play with both of us and um definitely gets gets me off and gets me going again watching and seeing her play and and um but it's never been like you know all attention on me and i would i would guess i would like to try that once where you know whether she's straight or bicarious or whatever even if it's just a moment of the of the scenario it's just you know kind of have all the focus on me for a little bit would be it would be kind of nice it is so i think that'd be hard for you though because you're such a pleaser i'd probably do it for about three seconds and then want to want to give if they do the right maneuver it only lasts lasts three seconds.
Yeah, exactly. Perfect. You know, if you have one sitting on you, on your penis, and the other one licking your balls. Oh, I was going to say. It's game on. Game on. At the top of the list now, I appreciate it. Or two lips running up and down your shaft from either side. Yes. And then going to the balls with the tongue. Yeah, if one's stuck in your dick, one's licking your balls. Here we go. There we go. I don't know.
up and down your shaft from either side yes and then going to the balls it's a time one's stuck in your dick one's looking your balls here we go there we go ding winner chicken chicken dinner yeah then it becomes a spectator sport then you just sit there okay brooke your turn you know we haven haven't really dabbled into any of the lifestyle parties where you obviously go to a place, I think. I don't know that we have any in our area. We're a little bit of a smaller city, but I think it would be fun to go to one of those and find people that we like and bring them back. People, peoples. Okay.
Like a meet and greet. So have you been to clubs at all? Thank you.
and find people that we like and bring them back people peoples okay like a meet and greet so you have have you been to clubs at all no we haven't ever done any of that how about a house party no none of that so i'm curious about that do you guys uh are you members of uh swing lifestyle sos no we we've just been on like you know the apps of field or three fun and those types of things is kind of where we've we've tried to meet people okay um one of the main websites and actually our podcast is on there also is swinglifestyle.com a lot of people just call it sls um it's a it's a great resource for not a not only meeting individuals but couples finding out groups that are in your area so you can find out about house parties and it'll even show you the clubs that you don't know exist that are in your area it's a wealth of information yeah it's check that out yeah it's uh it's we've been on it for like 20 years so um yeah we we bought the lifetime membership which i recommend it's like 200 bucks now for a lifetime versus like 35 a month so obviously you do the math but um yeah no meeting people uh in groups uh like a nice house party um you'll find clubs have a different dynamic um could be good could be bad I'll see you next time.
people uh in groups uh like a nice house party um you'll find clubs have a different dynamic um could be good could be bad and you know i don't think we're club people we're not club people we just didn't work out well for us i look like someone who was clubbed oh stop it my god um so it's a yeah it's it's a great dynamic to get into and and look into um you know even if you bought one month as a trial and they even have a free membership but you have very limited access but um yeah do one month on sos i mean some of the other ones um like adult friend finder and stuff like that they're more of a we found a lot more single men yeah it's a sausage and we're couples on like sls yeah and it's nice yeah with sos you can uh i can't speak to other swinger sites there are some other good ones i'm sure there are they um you could do searches on if you're looking for something in particular um sure you know if you say hey i want to find a single male that uh you know whatever different area but yeah you can even block people you can block individuals or you can block you say hey we don't want to deal with single men we're looking just for couples you can do that um excellent oh definitely the shot because as you said all these app seems to be a lot of single men so it's it's never an issue for for brooke to find somebody but those those good couples and those uh single women out there are hard to find single women are called the unicorn for a reason i think we've only met one true unicorn in 20 years a unicorn, single and playing.
I think you played with her. Probably. Right. Yeah. It's been a while. Yeah. Absolutely. And, yeah, we've only known, like, one or two true unicorns out there. The rest are fakes and phonies, so beware. Yeah. And, you know, you can put up pictures if you want to. I mean, you always get better results with pictures. Always. And the nice thing with SOS, too, you can put up pictures in the free area that you can block your face, but you lock the ones, the more private ones, or the face pictures, so only someone that you've approved, you know, can see them. You can unlock it for them.
You have to give them our handle and they can him and Brooke can check out our profiles. Well, we've told everybody before. We have told everybody. We're a photo couple. F-O-T-O-C-P-L-E on SOS. SwingLifestyle., we have hundreds and hundreds of pictures at the galleries behind the private galleries. Have no fear, they're none of me. No, we'll have to make our way out to see you guys sometime. Yeah, we're just north of Philadelphia and south of Allentown, so directly in the middle. And I did see by your email that you served, you, uh, served and I want to thank you, Tim. Thank you.
Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Appreciate your service. But, uh, so, you know, it's, it's been a good, you think it's enhanced your, your marriage?
I think so definitely and you know we've not to say that we haven't had some tough some tough nights and some tough conversations and some you know some arguments but I feel like you know at the end that has made us stronger and and uh coming out on the other end of it um you know really prioritize each other and you know certainly in love with her maybe borderline obsessed and you know and everywhere and every part of our lives you know we we got children and and um all that stuff you know outside of the bedroom as well we were perfect perfect matches so i think it's it's definitely only going to enhance from this point i agree because um when you say you have a perfect relationship outside the bedroom that is just huge that's what it's about yep that's exactly what it is because what if the the whole sex and that that whole realm doesn't exist you know then what do you have well you spend more time together outside the bedroom months unfortunately yeah but it's just nice that having that that sexual experience can just heighten it so and that's just so awesome yeah so that's me that so here's a quick question for you that uh donna and i have talked about before that we always found um i'll call it the dirty secret of being a swinger have you found any level of eroticism knowing like you go around people whether it be family or friends or or whatever and you have it in your head like you know we a good session, Donna, when she worked at Corporate America.
Going to work, they'd be like, hey, Donna, how was your weekend? And she couldn't say, well, I had sex with three different guys this weekend. It was great. Got the bottom knocked out of me. You know? Like, Tim, you can't go into work and go, well, yeah, I had this beautiful other woman, her and my wife, sit there and just devastate me. You want to brag about it. You want to brag about that, but you can't. It's a dirty secret that you get to keep in your head and just like, if they only knew. If they only knew. Yeah, 100%.
I definitely get very turned on by that and being out with our friends and sometimes just knowing like, like hey someone's coming over tonight and these people have no idea which is which is pretty fun yep it's nice having that dirty little secret there's always a fear of being outed so everybody goes to the other side about oh what if my family finds out yeah and back in high school everybody was like oh so, so-and-so's a little slut. And now it's like, I'm that slut. Yay! Yeah, I'm that slut. I think Brooke's biggest fear has always been with our children, right?
You know, I'm finding something out, but I think, yeah, there's always a chance, but.
Because we're willing to take that for fun times you know i don't i mean unless they get into a computer that you have pictures or a website on um right um it's really i mean hopefully if you're bringing people to the house which i don't think you would that while they're while they're home you know but if you go elsewhere get a babysitter and you know hotel rooms and things like that yeah yeah go to file a hotel room you're fine yeah you can be discreet yeah have you ever the only my biggest fear is somebody finding a toy of mine going through a drawer or something that could be have so many toys.
I don't know how somebody hasn't found them. You know what? There's these anal beads. They're still in the bookcase in the living room. I forgot to put them in. But they're in a box, so they're not that, you know, it's not out in the open. But I was like, oh, man, I forgot to put them in. Our daughter went through our bedroom the other day, and she's 28. She walked through our bedroom, and I noticed, and she took the dog out the back, and you still have that mold-o-pussy on top of your bureau. Yeah. One of the listeners, Wayne, he actually sent us a mold-o-pussy. Yep. Love it. Yeah.
Good thing I love my daughter to death, but she's kind of oblivious. Well, here's the thing. The bathroom door is a door we use for the glory hole. So there's this door that has this giant hole in it right around, oh, no, no, penis level. And she has never said anything about it. We put a piece of plastic over and we just say, we just allow heat to go into that back room because it's so cold. We make up some bullshit story. He's just like, oh, okay. Never mind that the hole is like wrapped. It's cut in an oval. It's cut in a crotch level. Sometimes he put things out in the open.
Nobody sees them. I always say hide things in the open. Yeah, hide them right out there. In the most obvious spot, they won't find it. Oh, my God. Oh, well.
But no no i think you guys uh you know there is that growing in period where you guys are going to work through i mean when i first got into swinging there was that i wanted to see it i wanted to see my wife with someone else but then there was that slight uh and you mentioned it in email like a slight inside jealousy like you know and then i realized that as we've said on the show countless times if you base your relationship on an orgasm you don't have a relationship oh yeah exactly because orgasms come and go you know like i said you spend more time outside outside the bedroom, you know, and the orgasms are just a benefit.
Definitely. I agree. So I got to make sure Brooke gets my number, so if she's sending out dirty pictures, I get some. Exactly, absolutely. Yeah, I don't get them. I get email from listeners sending me cock pics. It's like, no, no, this is... Oh, no, that was to me. That's to me. Obviously, I forwarded them right away. Yes. I'm glad that the subject matter was naked outside. And it's like, oh, okay, he's going to just forward that right over to me. Yeah, if they were putting the subject line, cockpick, I wouldn't even open it. I'd just forward it directly.
Yeah, because a heads up would be nice. A heads up. Yeah, no pun intended there.
intended oh so you did peek no well they don't tell me i just opened the email you're like oh good lord it's a monster it's a great show as a subject i open it up it's like whoa no that's not a great show that's not a show i want to see but whatever i have a penis allergy i don't have to tell you well i think it's funny well that's not nice you think these guys penis oh i don't mean that they great pride their penis i'm sure they do they keep sending pictures of it to me thanks i tried to convince you one of them was mine but you said you're not black so that's there's something have you delved um brooke into something like trying interracial i haven't ever okay i honestly haven't but never say never well it's you know yeah the right person can really um turn turn things around because i've had good and bad experiences with everyone everyone pretty much but yeah we just some one of them will just be just have the right moves have the right uh have the right feeling with them the right right energy, the right excitement level.
And you know when it's right. You're really grabbing for something there. Yeah, what's that? You're really grabbing for something. Yeah, I mean, the penis size is, you know, well, it's different. His personality made me come 12 times. You know his personality was 14 inches long? We just purchased a toy that emulates a man of that stature instead of myself. So we're looking forward to trying that out. So maybe she'll get the camera ready. Yeah. My number. So, but no, I want to thank you guys for one, writing in and two, being a listener and three and, three, just asking us for our opinion.
No one asks us our opinion. I wouldn't. I would not. It really did help, and it did open up a further and deeper conversation to have.
And we both listened to the episode without each other and came together and had a really good conversation so no it did help and we appreciate it oh that's great yeah we have this is our fourth season so it's got you got four years of podcast if you really get bored want to torture yourself yeah now we have it this is our therapy you know yeah it really we virtually make no money with this um not about it's just uh this is something we do twice a week and have fun with it and it's always nice to hear people who um appreciate i guess i'll use that word um and uh you know it's it's always fun to talk to other people too that are uh going through some of the same things we've been through and sharing your experiences with other people.
Because there's people all the time start listening that are new and different situations. Like, we have the one gentleman who writes in. Again, he goes by name. It's like my favorite cookie. I won't get into it. Chips Ahoy um and he's in a situation of being a cuckold now we're not cuckolds um but uh you know we've helped him with it and he's in a he writes me like every other day man just like oh my god you've made my life different like i'm glad yeah that's great that's pretty cool i certainly never thought I'd be on a podcast when this started. So really, really appreciate you having us.
We always encourage people to write to us if you want to call in and have a dialogue. And a lot of people are like, oh, I don't want someone to recognize my voice. It's like, you know what? We have a good following, but we're not that popular, we're not Joe Rogan You know, you're not going to find people listening to the show that generally aren't in the lifestyle or want to be in the lifestyle Exactly Sure You know, it's not like, I was trying to listen to a show about baking and I heard about these people swapping partners It's disgusting You know, my flambé is going to flop now, damn it.
But anyway, so I want to thank you both. Yes, thank you, Tim. Thank you, Brooke. We appreciate you coming on and sharing your experiences with us. Yeah, if you guys, you know, maybe one of your next experiences, you have to call back in and share with people how it went. Absolutely. We got a big play date scheduled for Saturday night, so maybe reach out next week. Yeah. That'd be cool. Okay. Yeah, I hope it goes well. Put the phone on FaceTime. Yes. I got your number now. Aim it more towards Brooke for me.
Yes, problem i'm sure tim you're lovely and sexy and all that i got a face for podcast that's it i got a face for print but uh no you guys have any questions for us yeah i would i would love to hear kind of how you got into the lifestyle and, you know, what some of your favorite experiences might have been. Oh, I just hate repeating other shows. Can I do a brief synopsis? Well, do you want me to do how I started, and then we'll get into us? Or I guess do you prefer, you know, the single type of endeavors, or do you guys really enjoy group play at all at the same time? Some group play.
Like the house parties are group play. It's kind of fun. Mostly it was a lot easier in the early days of getting single men than getting a couple. And I am completely straight, though. So, yeah, it was just easier to get a single guy.
So it was usually that kind of a dynamic and um eventually we we did get a couple women but it was that was really hard to do in couples that was even worse so the dynamic was different we were also shooting doing it combined we were shooting content um for various websites so that was the other so that was the caveat that right um the guys who um she would be playing with would have to sign a release and everything else and uh the funny part was with that is you know initially like oh i don't know you know and i'd i have like four cameras set up and but i'd have it feed to a monitor so they could see themselves oh it was so hot these guys they'd be sitting there you know having fun with donna and they're looking at the monitor like oh my god it's so erotic it's like watching myself and pouring and i could feel it like you know that was probably one of the most erotic things that i've ever experienced yeah but i mean i got into it with my first wife or i usually say my first mistake first on the second mistake obviously being a photographer um and again if you uh join sos and you find our profile you'll see um a lot we're one of the more popular profiles just because of the pictures um that you know i've been photographing beautiful women i used to shoot for motorcycle magazines and everything else i never fooled around on my wife should have um but you know got her and you know i decided i told her i'd love to see you you know play with another guy and um at that point i was the only man she had played with you know she lost virginity and everybody else.
And then she tried it and just took the ball and ran with it and ran too far. And then Donna and I, when we got together, we were business partners first with doing an adult website. And it was just friends at the time. We were just friends, yeah. There was nothing going on there.
After our marriage fell apart and she broke up with her boyfriend at the time um i said to her said yeah we've been shooting content with you but it's always just been solo or with another girl you know you want to try it with another guy she's like well i don't know about that i was like i don't mind so we kind of started that way and um it was always with them well the most erotic thing is because you like you said before you are a voyeur we have and it's not great condition the first guy i ever played with quiet mike and it's not great quality but man it's erotic it's so erotic i can go back and i'm so glad you recorded it because we can go back like wow that was really a fucking hot night wasn't it that was i kind of know how to use a camera you kind of know it was pretty erotic so um yeah so it took off from there and then um for the longest time it was just you know solo stuff with her with a guy a couple times we had the the single other women come in and be a threesome with us um and then a couple couples and then more recently in the last couple years we've started going to this one house party yeah that's been and um you know um and i get to out slut donna so he is the biggest slut too yeah well but um yeah so it was just kind of i think basically due to my uh photography um just the interest of seeing and capturing um that you know i did a lot of fine art photography i've had six one-man gallery shows published in books everything else with my stuff so it just was another extension pardon me of that so um so yeah blame my photography yep but uh yeah no i mean i've i've photographed i don't know over a thousand models and then even we used to have in my studio which was a 30 200 square foot finished barn it had three floors um the first floor i'd have vignettes set up and then on the second floor it was just a big orgy room and uh so fun times yeah i mean people would bring a memory card i'd shoot pictures of them doing all sorts of stuff and they'd leave with the pictures and then they also went upstairs and that was the other benefit of sls that was a way for us to create the group lesson lesson photoshy lesson camera shy lesson camera shy the group is called and it was a great way for people to get like really erotic pictures for their profiles and have fun mingle have some drinks and then go upstairs and have some fun too so it was it was a nice way to uh bring our our weird twist our fetish of of documenting this kind of stuff and also for other people to have fun and for us to have fun so i thought it was a great marriage at the time yeah it was a good time for a couple years then i got burned out so many things do it's a lot of work a lot of work but uh yeah no that was it's a long way of saying i kind of just said let's try it yeah let's just try it see what happens worked out well yeah so far but um yeah it's um been fun you know the good times far outweigh the few bad times we've had.
But the bad times weren't enough to discourage us from the stop. No. And again, we've always had the mentality, like we mentioned earlier, of it's something we want to do for fun, not a lifestyle for us per se. It's just, you know, it's the icing on the, uh, on the cake. I agree. I would say we're pretty much the same. That's for sure. Yeah. It just, it makes it that much more erotic. You know, we knew a guy that he tried to make three play dates every day cause he knew he wouldn't get three. He didn't get three.
He tried to get three a week if he could, but he would schedule, he would try to schedule three a day, every day of the week. And he had a very lovely, sexy wife. Very nice wife. Yeah, I don't get it. I just could not understand that. It's a whole other, I could just show it. Yeah, on the weird people we have met.
unusual i shouldn't say weird but uh no as long as you two put each other first and and i'm sure you do and then you know look at that as the you know the you know instead of a normal you know marriage you know date night it's a it's a real date night yeah absolutely yeah spice it up yeah I agree but that's uh yeah that's kind of the long way thing yeah we just said that what the fuck you only live once i agree so they tell me so will we beat this horse or what yeah but no again i want to thank you guys for calling in thank you very much for having us really appreciate it we'll continue to be great listeners yeah and uh we'll be posting this show on this thursday morning i'll go up so be five o'clock goes up five o'clock our time on thursday okay so if you're listening for it You want to hear a dumb eye sound?
There you go. All right. So. It goes up 5 o'clock our time on Thursday. I was listening for it. You want to hear a dumb my sound? There you go. All right. So, again, thank you, guys. Best of luck. Keep in touch. You have my number, Brooke. Send me some pictures. Any pictures you want to send, I will give you my professional opinion. Of course. I'll call you out to give us some pictures. Yeah, we can do that. I'll send you my professional, you know, opinion. Of course. I'll call you out to give us some pictures. Yeah, we can do that. I'll send you some of Donna. There's none of me, luckily.
That's for everything. There's pictures of my kids. I have pictures of Donna. It's like someone wants to document. Well, it's funny. Vince died. Did you ever picture him? No. No. He's always behind the camera. Uh-oh. My best son. side oh i'm just gonna start taking pictures of you all the time now with my phone forget it at your height you're only gonna get my belly button oh well that'll be your legacy thank you guys have a great night and we'll talk again soon hopefully bye-bye all All right, everybody. Stay horny. Good night, everybody. My ears are hurting from their glasses so much.
