Importance of Fantasies

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Hi, this is Donna Lynn and welcome to my Hot Wife Podcast podcast where we discuss all the good the bad and the really erotic of the swinger lifestyle hello everybody i'm just looking at my goofball husband doesn't he have a sexy voice so i just love that that opening okay that's a different different introduction than i'm using okay hey gotta mix it up a little bit all i know is it's my voice it's all i know i think you have a very sexy voice well at least i got something that's sexy yeah that's about it that's about it that's that's where it's not gonna push it yeah go with that run with that can't see it from my house that's true and then he's over here like taking his finger pretending like it's up his nose and while i'm doing my little thing he's got his like finger like shoved up his nose like he's picking boogers it's like yeah great wow that's a great start to the show.

I just love the way you're so mature. I'm pretty sure that people really didn't give a fuck what I was doing. Yeah, but that's why I was laughing. Okay. Because I started doing that and, you know, then you're like, had to one-up me like you always do. So there you go. We just can't be serious about anything. Yeah, life's too short. That's true. That's what swinging is about. Life's too short.

Have fun life's too short have an orgasm oh i want that on a t-shirt well you would life short fuck everyone and people can read that how they want i don't know that'd be taken a couple different ways yeah i mean depend on your attitude and mood you could be it could be taken a couple different ways. Yeah, I mean, depending on your attitude and mood, you could be... It could be, fuck everyone, or fuck everyone. Fuck everyone, or fuck everyone. A lot of days, my theory is, fuck everyone. Oh, he's such a happy man. Fuck you. Oh, so positive. I'm positive. Fuck you.

I'm positively going to fuck you. I didn't say that. I'm going to make you beg. Oh, positively. No, you're so positive. You're like, nope, not going to happen. Oh, it's okay. I have a headache anyway. Wait, does today end in Y? Yeah. No, not today. Hmm. Thank you. Oh, it's okay. I had a headache anyway. Wait, does today end in Y? Yeah. No, not today. Hmm. Did I fuck someone else earlier today? Yeah. Yes, I did. I used up all my tickets. I used up all my tickets. Oh, yeah, so many tickets, you know. I get one a day. And if I save them up, that gives me special days.

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Oh, lucky 13. I got my mom to listen. Oh, yeah. Okay. She thinks it's about swing sets. Oh. Swing sets. I don't know why. What's so big about swing sets? And Donna's on these swing sets with all these other guys. Hope they don't get hurt. Yeah. Something happened. It splashed in Donna's eye. I'm not sure what was going on there. Yeah, be careful with those swing sets. Maybe things are loose on them. Maybe oil. Yeah, there's some things loose on there. Anyway. So what did you determine today's topic is? The importance of fantasy. Okay.

We've always talked about like your biggest sex organ is your mind.

And if you don't have fantasies, I wouldn't say you don't have anything i'll just say that sex is certainly heightened by the indulgence of fantasy well one of the first things that comes to my people little mind is is if you okay like when you were younger like you know first you're teenagers and you first started thinking about sex it was just sex you didn't need fantasy it's just like you wanted to just have sex the hormones were raging yeah and it's just you know you might fantasize oh i want to fuck that girl over there so bad fantasy i remember you know like oh you know oh the person i work with i mean god they're so sexy i want to fuck them i mean most of the people most of the women in this county are like oh my god there's sexy.

I want to fuck them. I mean, most of the people, most of the women in this county are like, oh, my God, there's Vince. I want to fuck them. Ladies, one at a time. Not necessarily. No stampede away from me, please. Well, wait a minute.

I remember vividly, I was probably in junior high or high school and i remember in algebra class going into fantasy thinking about fucking my boyfriend or whoever at the time you know just daydreaming about call that a fantasy or daydream i think there's a difference you think there's a difference between a daydream and a fantasy yeah if it's something you can achieve easily, it's not really a fantasy, is it? Sure. Is it? Yeah.

in a fantasy yeah if it's something you can achieve easily it's not really a fantasy is it sure is it see me fantasies are things that are kind of unobtainable a lot more difficult to obtain we'll say unattainable i'll say um things that it's like oh my god i i want to you know uh Fuck my wife up on the torch of the statue of liberty looking out over it's like well i can do it maybe getting up to the torch might be a problem not getting arrested could be a problem you know but but it's still fancy it's still okay so there are fantasy there's a level of i can't to see my wife and fuck her.

Okay, that's a daydream. That's a daydream, so to speak, because you can have that. But I think the fantasy, I think the, in my opinion, the line between the two is, it's like, oh, my God, I want to, you know, fuck, you know, whoever.

You know, just let's say someone fantasy or you know i i want donna to wear rabbit ears and a cottontail on her ass and i'll be right back and and you know camouflage crocs and uh her nipples would be pierced it's like well she's not gonna do that i have half of those things i just have to get my nipples pierced you only have half okay so fantasies are definitely maybe not quite as obtainable i'm not gonna say they're not obtainable but they're a little bit more and a daydream is something that you can actually go out and do my opinion i mean yeah i can see that i think a daydream is something obtainable is something you can't do at that moment oh yes okay where fantasy is something that's going to be a lot more difficult or almost impossible like yeah you've had little fantasies of being held in a cave like a hospital or something with a straitjacket on and the orderlies come and take full advantage of you and stuff like that you're willing participant you're not being raped right right but okay that's obtainable we used to have a gurney we could have done it we could have done that and you know but the scenario that's in the fantasy you know you're in your fantasy you're picturing this dark dingy hospital and know what i'm picturing maybe it's a nice bright pretty hospital it could be no it's usually dark dimly lit uh borderline you know like when the surgical lamps over to bed yeah exactly a little bit scary yeah um achieving that's you know when you go into your head whenever whether it's during sex or whatever or you're masturbating or whatever you picture that scenario you don't picture you know there's a lot to it yeah there is yeah i i that that is interesting that the you see their their the difference between daydream and fantasy i hadn't really thought of it quite like that.

I kind of had to more bleed into each other more. But that is interesting. There's a fine line. Yeah, there's definitely a fine line. I think daydreaming is generally, you know, it's like, oh, I'm daydreaming. I want to, you know, just go down to the cigar shop and take a glass of bourbon with me and just sit there and have a nice cigar. And no one bugged me. It's obtainable. Wait, that could be a fantasy. It's obtainable. It's a daydream. Versus like, well, I'm going to go down there and Elizabeth Hurley's going to come in and fucking sit on my face and suck my dick while I smoke my cigar.

No. Much as she wants to. I know she does. She keeps emailing me and texting me. It's getting, you know, a little bit embarrassing here. Well, it's, you know. But, you know, so that's my two cents on that. Yeah, that makes sense. I can see that.

But I think, I mean, I've talked talked to mostly women and ask them so what are your sexual fantasies and a lot of women i don't have any either a too shy to say them or b they don't have them um well where does your mind go when you're having sex i mean i can concentrate on the sensation of whatever is going on with my nether regions while i'm being fucked or eaten or whatever but that's that's very one-dimensional there's so much more where my mind wanders into different uh i i might go through a half a dozen different scenarios of what's going on different men sometimes but there's also scenarios going on fantasy wise while that's all going on and it it's it's almost like a you know there's um oh what the fuck is that uh uh starts with sounds like pinballs you know no you know like the pinballs like the balls going all over the place my mind is literally jumping from from scenario to scenario to scenario and so i find one that fits like that's going to take me there i know you you've even said that you you had trouble coming because your mind couldn't stay focused on one one fantasy one scenario so that happens in my mind but to have not have that just have the sensation of what's going on is nice sure but i i want to evolve myself and go to a different level you know what i'm saying does that make any sense for me yeah i mean i can obviously have orgasm just sitting there on the feeling right right i'm 57 bearing down on 58 now oh and it doesn't like i could be sitting there having sex with somebody that turns me on besides your wife thanks that isn't um but uh that is not your wife like i said but anyway um no i i could just sit there enjoy the feeling but I'm not a teenager.

I don't come in 30 seconds anymore. So if I concentrate on just a feeling and enjoy that, oh, I can probably go 45 minutes to an hour easily. Oh, yeah, easily. But if I want to get it done today, you go into your little mental game, your fantasy or fantasies. And at that point, you know, once I open that door, you know, open up the closet with all the fantasies in there. You sit there and it's like, well, I like this one and I like this one. And this one kind of overlaps with that one and that one.

And it's just like, okay, where, you know, and for me, but there's times that I'm able to get into one. Right. And, you know, again, you get into that one, also you take a one hour session. Also now it's 20 minutes. Right. Right. Not to mention, I find if I just were to concentrate on the sensation, um, I don't think the orgasm is going to be as strong as I go into my little fantasy. It just, I don't know why it heightens that sensation.

I have no idea, but I can just, uh, transcend myself into that particular scenario to the point that I can feel what's happening in my fantasy and I can meld them or like overlap them as to what's happening in reality.

Well, think of it this way, I'm guessing'm guessing it's like i don't find to be a medical professional or whatever right if i think how turned on do you get like if you're sitting here without thinking about sex you're not getting turned on generally generally if you start thinking about a fantasy when you're not even you get horny it so it builds automatically you get You get that – so it's the same thing. It's like, okay, it can feel good, and I can enjoy that, and I'll get there eventually. Right.

But when I add in the mental game, it just – it throws the fucking extra gas on the fire and – Yeah, I agree.

Especially if you have somebody that is attuned to your fantasies maybe they know what um what kind of dirty talk will get you there like while they're doing stuff to you they can be talking to you about things and that helps too tell me if i'm wrong with this one the other thing that changes it without the fantasy part okay so like you have a couple boy toys um that you really enjoy playing with a couple so you don't have to get a couple dozen um that you don't have to get you don't have to get into your mental game just that person is the arousal that's almost that mental game oh my god i'm you know this guy's muscular and everything else.

And not my husband. Yeah, whatever. I don't turn myself on either. Stop it. I love you. You know that. But no, I mean, the excitement of, I don't want to say conquest, but something strange. We've talked about how strange sex is always so erotic it is you know you could be with the person you love right you're with 90 percent of the time but the strange stuff because it's something different and you know um yeah i can cook a steak on the grill and be'd be good and everything else. But somehow when you go out someplace, it generally tastes better. Sometimes. With the food analogy, not so much.

But with the person. Well, thank you. I know. Yeah. I actually enjoy your cooking very, very much. But, yeah, being with somebody that's exciting to you and you don't, it's, quote, strange sex is very exciting. And you know, you've said it before, it's not always that it's better. It's just different, which makes it very erotic. Which is a form of a fantasy. Is that a form of a fantasy? In a way. It's like, oh my, again, you could think about the tabooness. Oh, true. True, okay. When you were with somebody like the gentleman you played with earlier, who you've played with numerous times.

Oh, numerous, yes. You know, been on hot dates with him a few times and everything else. He's comfortable. I'm not saying you don't enjoy him. Yeah. But it's comfortable. It is very comfortable. Just like someone that, like me, your husband, I'm comfortable.

It's,'s you know that old pair of shoes it's not special it's comfortable it's enjoyable yeah I see your point I'm not sure if that's I'm not that yeah he is very comfortable but not not that comfortable yeah but I mean okay but versus someone um i've only met like for 15 minutes not even yeah someone shows up we hang out with him for half an hour talking everything else and you know you're like oh my god he's a lot hotter than his pictures right right you know and all of a sudden you kiss him before you get into the bedroom it's like oh my god he's a good kisser it's like the motor gets running the gears get greased up you know a lot of things get greased up who are you kidding if you do that use spunk loop.com 10 discount if you type in hot wife and they check out area so shameless plug shameless but uh no you're right and i it's not that it's good or bad or better it's just it's different because that excitement of the unknown maybe that's it sure you know that's why i always tell guys you know they some of my guys when they come in they just want to get naked right away i'm like no leave your undergarment whatever you want to call it shorts or whatever jot whatever you're wearing leave them yeah they come in their commando kind of like takes the fun out for them because i want to be surprised i don't want to be like well i already know i've said that before too to me like when the erotic things is um we don't go necessarily checking out cock pictures or anything else it's not as important no it's not as important so watching you unwrap the package and seeing it for first time yeah see that's i find it erotic watching your facial expressions yeah especially because i mean seeing it's like okay well she didn't giggle it when he puts his pants no i didn't well that one took her eye out jesus christ well yeah because i mean some guys there may be some guys that had no dick pics in their profile at all not not a one which i find very um teasing yeah more erotic sure and then the guy that has all he has is dick pics it's like all right so what's what am i you know i already know security i don't know what it is i think all they have to offer is a cock it's like guys you're so much more than that stop it if you want to put one in that's fine so we know we're getting into but that's i think it's more fun if i don't know i have no idea what he's coming to the table with and i pull down whatever underwear he's wearing and it just pops out all ready to go saying hello Like, you know, a glorious morning.

Hello, Frisco. It's fun like you know a glorious morning it's fun you know playing yeah pretty much it's like yahoo and he's ready to go it's it's cool man i got i get a jolly out of it well do you think i have my answer um i think some relationships People are afraid to admit they have fantasies because they're afraid that the fantasy will either, one, expose them for something they don't want to admit or, B, expose something that their significant other will not be happy with. Yes.

Like my old relationship, my old marriage, if I ever said to her that i i didn't but if i had the fantasy of fucking another woman or women or whatever she would have fucking flown off the fucking hook you know it's okay for her to want to fuck other men but exactly but that was that relationship but anyway um you know you could sit there and like or or somebody who's like well you know um you know i i really like to suck a dick with you it's like like what okay but i mean you know people are like you know they have that macho complex right and now they want to come out and say well i'm not i'm not saying that myself i'm just of course not dear oh if you're in this area and you're not opposed to whiskers on your penis um stop it oh yeah again we've gotten back you've got to be true to yourself oh you should own it i mean it doesn't have to be something i like believe me um but no i support people who as much as like i've been making a lot of jokes about the ass-eating thing okay yeah that one's that one's a long long-standing joke i wrote a song about it here here it goes um but i mean i if that's your thing if you desire to have a woman or man eat your ass.

Go for it. I'm talking about the man. Like I said, I'm all about the eating a woman's ass. Okay. I see the double standard here. Yeah, good. I'll erase it from the whiteboard now. That picture is getting offensive.

But, I mean, if that's your thing, all fairness go for it own it that's great when when that young guy came out and says hey would you eat my ass i'm like um i said i sure will yeah and that's great i mean i respect him for owning that oh yeah no yeah he he was like oh my god it was so awesome i remember i was with another in an older relationship and i wasn't i was very inexperienced or had not experienced a bisexual relationship with another woman and i remember i told him i was like you know i really have this fantasy about being with another woman in a threesome or her yeah exactly oh my god he i oh you would have thought i raped and murdered little children try to cheat on them worse than that like i was murdering little children or something really horrific oh oh you and your fucking lesbian fantasies oh you know what happened like several years that?

I might have even said it on the show. Mr. Douchebag. Oh, had a threesome with me and another woman. Oh, fuck you. I guess I was so terrible with my lesbian fantasy. Fuck you. I don't know what the fuck his problem was. It's like, dude, really? I don't know why he was so offended. He was afraid that you were going to have a, the same as some men don't like their woman to have a vibrator dildo. It's like, oh my God, you won't need me. Oh yeah. I can't change it. It's an insecurity. It's all it is. Well, who's going to mow the lawn? Can you bring up my vibrator, put it next to the lawnmower?

Good, mow. Mow the lawn. The old house had a lawn that was like five foot wide by fucking 20 feet long yeah so you pass the lawnmower twice you're done but anyway oh okay who's gonna take out the trash okay he didn't it doesn't matter the vibrator's not gonna do it either get my rabbit out there okay no take out the trash take out the trash go ahead you know yeah i mean well but you're like... We could talk about old relationships. There's a whole other show.

But no, I mean, that's one of the part of fantasies, I think, that people might not reveal their fantasies because of that fear of how the other one is going to react. Yeah, the repercussions. I get it. got an earful i got an earful that day i was very young i was only like 16 15.

oh okay i was saying it was your my last oh no no no okay this guy's actually been dead for like 20 years already i'm starting out little boyfriends i know you're talking about now yeah yeah i mean but it was weird because you're like oh you're lesbian fantasies i have lesbian fantasies all the time i'm sure you do i mean a lot of men have lesbian fantasies but uh it i don't i just don't understand his reaction i guess guess it's even to this day, Emily. We'll move on past that, but the whole thing with fantasies, like I said, I think you have those fears of fantasies.

I think fantasies are very important. Oh, I think so, too. And when people tell me they don't have fantasies, then it's like, no, you have fantasies, you're afraid to admit them. Maybe it's something too strange. It's like, oh, yeah, I have a fantasy. i want to get fucked by you know 17 guys while i have a you know a one of those what remember those things has a kid that's a stupid toy now it's a stick with a fucking propeller on it you blow oh twirly bird type whatever you call it yeah those in my ass while I'm getting fucked by 17 guys, you know? I'd pay to see that.

I didn't say it was my fan. I didn't say it was your ass. I didn't say it was yours. You can buy that video on my many videos. Sure. My only fan section is not there. I have a thing saying it's not a sexual device, it's a toy. You can't have that in your ass. You can't use that for sex. Oh, my God. Yeah, well, I want to be fucked in the ass while I have two alligators biting each one of them biting my nipples. Yeah, that one won't. That's a lot. It's not going to end well. For the alligators or me? I would say definitely it would not end well for you, for sure.

The alligators might make out better on this one. That's not part of my fantasy. Oh, yeah, of course not. Well, the thing is, people that say they don't have fantasies, either A, they're artistically bankrupt, which I find that hard to believe. If you're a sexual creature.

Well, there's plenty of sexual creature that aren't creative yeah but i if you have a fantasy you have allowed your mind to experience things and allowed your mind to work out these scenarios and try on different uh personalities and scenarios and and it was like that your analogy like opening up the door and it's kind of like a closet and you have all these things hanging down and clothing are all different fantasies and you have to go through and find out one that fits.

And if I just, if you are a living, breathing person, I'm sure your mind goes off on these tangents to some degree, whether you call them a fantasy or not is kind of irrelevant does it i mean i think everybody's mind goes and tries on different things i would like to think yeah i mean i do i try on all kinds of things well i think as uh human beings i mean look at you know they invented the car so it's like wow this is great i get from here to there right a lot quicker than walking then all of a sudden it's like oh we can fucking back it well besides that that's a whole other show things that have been invented go they go right to sex they go right to sex um but no i'm talking more like we always have to kick it up in a sense of like oh yeah i got a car but it's like okay it takes me an hour to get from here to there this car well you know what if i'm Thank you.

in a sense of like oh yeah i got a car but it's like okay it takes me an hour to get from here to there i see where you're going well you know what if i make the motor go faster i can get there in half an hour oh wait can i get there faster let's crank it up even more let's crank it you know and and the same thing goes with sex like oh well that one finger felt good my ass let's try two three fist yeah that's you know i mean how else did fisting come about you know i mean Thank you. One finger felt good in my ass. Let's try two, three, fist. Yeah. I mean, how else did fisting come about?

I mean, I don't want to know. Four fingers just wasn't enough. Yeah. The thumb felt left out. Exactly. Yeah. Humans, like you just said, you can say that across the board, not just with sex. I mean, I'm talking the whole gamut. Sure. You take it to a plateau, and as humans, we have to climb the next mountain. And look at Mount Everest. I mean, literally climbing mountains. And why? Something as simple as look at nurses.

You know, for how many years were nurses considered such a, and still, sure, to some sexual fantasy right you know it's like oh my god she's gonna give me a sponge bath yeah around the same page you know and stuff like that you know back when they wore skirts like oh dresses yeah oh she bent over to pick up my bedpan oh oh those white stockings are you know they're sweaty love those pantyhose but um you know so it's we've everything is fantasy built into everything well someone admits it or not they have some fantasy where they realize it's a fantasy you know does a woman who says no i don't have any fantasies but she goes to the car wash every week and it's like raul dry my car dry that car baby you get in there use some elbow grease oh he's drying the roof of my car and his crotch is right there against my window you know whatever um but i'm saying but how much of those those kind of fantasies they don't want to talk about?

They're afraid. Oh, yeah. If I tell my husband I would love to have Raul, when he's drying my car, hop in the back seat. Right, right. And wet me. Or I want to come out of the car wash with a sparkle, with a spot-free rinse and have him dry me off. He wants to charge me $79 to do that to me. Do you have 80 bucks I can borrow? No, never mind. Anyway. Okay. But, you know, I mean, or like I said, someone that is afraid to admit. I mean, we're seeing more and more of it, and that's great.

I mean, I think, like I said before, people should own their, as long as everyone is consenting and agreeing and of age. That's the preface. But if a husband sits there and goes, you know what, honey, I want to see you suck another man's dick. Right, right. Okay, honey. Hang on, honey. I want to help you suck another man's dick. Or more recently, you've heard a lot of this lately. You know, there's a friend of ours that I met through the gun store. Okay. And he's like, oh, Vince, I want to see you fuck my wife. Oh, yes.

He's like, okay, I'd like to fuck your wife, but your wife's not into that, so it's okay. But he's like, oh, man, he says, I want to send her to your house and have you fuck the shit out of her and send her home, and then I'm going to clean up her pussy with your cum. I was like, what? I was like, okay. Does she know you? No, she has no idea of that. See, that's one. Yeah, he might.

He's afraid to admit that whatever, however you want to word it, I'm not going to put a name on it, that they have this fantasy that they think their significant significant other is going to go you're sick yeah i could see something like that meeting with a lot of resistance or some resistance yeah it wouldn't be that yeah that they may not to different people to different people i mean you know i i'm not i'm not saying it that's claiming it not thinking it but if i came to you let's say something happened a cinder block fell in my head and i go yeah i think i want to help you suck cock you would sit there go what and then go okay okay then i sit there and go wait before we before we do it, grab another single blocker.

Bash me in the head with it. Hit me in the head one more time. Okay? Because, yeah, it's unappealing to you. That's why. Well, I don't like lima beans. It's the same thing. It's not a flavor I want. Come lima beans. Cock. Nope. Lima beans. Nope. Nope. That cock is right out there with lima beans. Cock, no, lima beans, no, no. That cock is right up there with lima beans, right down there. I'll eat lima beans first. Okay, now I see where cock is. I'll eat a bushel of fucking lima beans. But those who want to eat cock, God bless you. Or lima beans. Or lima beans. I'm not judging. That's great.

Now, if you want to eat lima beans with a cock, you're sick. Yeah, that could get dangerous. It depends how hot the lima beans are. You burned my peanut. Or you're chewing lima beans. You know what I mean? Sorry, that's your dick. I'm sorry. That would go beyond a dry heat. That would just be pure vomit. Well, you can confuse some guy's dick with a lima bean. We're all in trouble here. A guy's dick that looks like a lima bean. Anyway.

Okay, that's a little tiny judging it's fine it's all good so back to where we were but so fantasy is a in our opinion is a very important part of sex yeah i'm i still go back to it allows my mind to express things that I can't always do in the physical world. Do you find yourself going to fantasy more on higher stress times? No, it seems to be pretty. Higher stress times, it's... Because you can get that little five degrees of separation from reality. Where if you're just sitting here going for the feeling, which may or may not feel good. Right, right.

But you're still kind of connected to reality. Whereas when you can get into your fantasy. You said higher stress. What does that mean? Well. I mean, stress like negative stress. You have bills. You have. Okay, yeah, that kind of stress. You have things going on in everyday life.

That you're sitting there um we're playing around and you're like you just have a hard time you're just like i gotta pay this bill i gotta pay the bill i got i gotta do this at work tomorrow i gotta do that this that boom you know you sit there and you're thinking about that and not enjoying right the moment right but to get into the moment if you can separate it through fantasy do you find that being more if you find yourself in a situation where you're there and say oh my god as soon as it gets done fucking me I gotta go clean the kitchen floor pay the electric bill I have to make sure I send an email to that client checking your watch jesus christ while he's here i'm looking as i've got to paint this fucking bedroom i'm gonna remind him to shower once in a while oh you know sometimes all that stuff i find is static and it does it's very it gets in the way of my fantasy so it what's i'm saying so yeah what i'm saying is without going into fantasy those type of things happen and then you sit there and go okay i have to forget that so i can enjoy the moment exactly so i have to go to fantasy to block out the static of everyday life yeah pretend i'm'm fucking my husband.

Well, no, I never do that. That's what alcohol is for. Stop it. I love you. You know that. Something like that. Yeah. So, yeah. Okay. I see what you're saying. I've noticed. Matt could be wrong. I'm expressing my opinion. If I'm really like distracted by the day. I'm offended. Yeah.

You're offended offended all right uh sometimes it's hard for me to get even into the fantasy sure so once i can get into that fantasy then i'm good then i'm good and i've expressed this to you with my severe back pain there's times i can get in my fantasy fine and then there's times the pain is so insurmountable yeah i i can't get into the fantasy i can't i can't get into the mindset i need to be to be in the situation i'm in yeah exactly and that could be with a lot of things and pain is definitely one of them as you get older not that we would know but yeah as you get older there are more pains you can't get into those you know, positions you know oh i can't be on my knees too much i can't be this i have a shoulder issue so i can't you know doggy can be kind of painful if i'm in that position too long so yeah i know what you mean so yeah all these things you have to take into account and consideration they're going to affect your fantasy and how well you'll be able to get into your mental game to achieve an orgasm.

It's like a domino effect. You know, it's... Okay, so here's a twist on it now. Okay, there's a twist. Watch this, I'm twisting. Okay. You might want to stretch and pull something. At this age, yeah, you're right. So, okay, so now you know your partner's fantasy. Right. It might be something you're not necessarily into. I can't think of an example. I'm not going to try. Right. But how much can that help when you can feed into it, even if it's a oral thing? I don't mean, you know, blowjob.

I'm talking like, you know, I enjoy seeing you with other men oh you mean verbal not oral do you mean same thing verbal yes they're they're different so well okay yeah they are so when like and you've seen it like you're like well i can't really talk with your cock in my mouth that's okay but here i had i'm gonna get you let me just move the side things like they use an aircraft carrier you could do semaphore oh the little flags or you could do sign language you can tell me the story but you know um so when when you feed into some of my fantasy right and you you know tell me that stuff it adds you've even said it's like oh my god your cock does got even even harder cocked this guy even harder.

So at what point can accepting someone's fantasy, your partner's fantasy, let's pretend you're someone, okay, my friend who listens occasionally to the show, and we've talked about him numerous times with his gorgeous wife, he's not in the swinging and everything else. Yep, I know exactly what you mean. To my knowledge, he has no issues or whatever. But how much do you think it could heighten? That's what I'm looking at, I guess. How much do you think something like that could heighten if she says, okay, I'm not into this. I know what he wants. He'd love to see me fuck other guys.

So if I played up the scenario and just said, so you'd like to see me, you know, fuck another guy and this guy would be like this. The guy I would fuck in front of you would look like this and have this and do this. Yeah, but the premise is she's not. The trapeze would be here and the safety gets me down. The trapeze, there we go, goddamn trapeze. Yeah, but he knows she's not into it. It has to be genuine. If she's, you know, there are fantasies.

If she starts talking about that, he might get the idea that she's the hope you could get the hope as the person listening that's like well she's thinking about it so she hasn't 100 ruled it out but she might be like i'm just doing this to appease you because i know you like it i am not into this one not even one little bit and i think that you're you're sending the wrong message because then it's gonna be like like yeah the other night you were talking about you wanted to blah and he's like well I'm just doing that so you would come faster so when you said you would wear the Mickey Mouse ears you were already joking no I would do that as silly as they look if that really floated your boat dear I'll, where the Mickey Mouse is.

Very better. And the goofy nose. It's a small twat after all. Well, at least you didn't say it was a gaping hole after all. But, yeah, I mean, you know, it's, so, yeah, I mean, I think it could help if you knew.

And, again, you can play it up and say it up say listen i'm gonna play it up a little bit i haven't ruled it out a hundred percent just leave it at that you don't have to go any more than that yeah it's ruled out 99.9 percent the smallest glimmer of hope you can overlook the fact that this is never going to fucking happen never fucking and you know sometimes with fantasy There are fantasies um i know could never happen and that's actually fine actually there's some that yeah in the past i should say they were fantasy and they actually did come to fruition so that's kind of a bad example but at the time i didn't think that anything would happen so and they were it was fine as a fantasy by itself and it was safe like there was i didn't have to worry about like actually having to deal with that being a reality the whole the whole circus yeah there we go but in my my fantasy you know having sex on a trapeze trapeze was just awesome i flipped around his dick went right into my pussy just right right.

And he flipped me around and it went right into my ass. It was like perfect. And then we took apart and we came down and landed on the net on the bottom. It was wonderful. But I don't think it's ever going to happen. Now I hear that. No, I mean, sometimes it doesn't need to happen. I think you could find middle ground. If your partner has a fantasy, it might be something you're not into. Right. We'll call this where fantasy and role-playing kind of overlap. Yeah. You can sit there and you want me to be the whore. I'm talking as my buddy's wife. Oh, you can be the whore. I don't mind.

I've been known. I've had my moments.

Oh, yeah i mean you know stockings with the seam up the back you kill it oh boy but such muscular legs the couple we're talking about she could sit there and say listen i'll role play with you i'll pretend to be the slut you want me to be you know just realize that well this as long as as long as you're not giving somebody a false yeah false pretense absolutely that actually might open some doors if you start talking like that and you see how aroused she might see how aroused her husband gets with his role playing and how uh it might even become exciting to her even though she's not making the leap into the reality, keeping it in that role-play slash fantasy might actually just open the idea to something.

It might open her mind up and see, you know what, that is kind of hot. That is kind of hot. You know, wait, I don't want to really play with another guy, but all of a sudden, my husband wants to see me with it, and I see it affects him. Right, right.

You know it affects him right right you know it would have to be the right guy all of a sudden it's like okay well what kind of guy would i mess around with exactly it could um yeah it could it could feed to it you know whatever well once you start talking about i mean this could go across many different platforms when you start talking about things things and then you start- Opening up your mind. Opening up your mind and kind of unraveling all these different scenarios and the pitfalls that might happen. I'm not just talking fantasy as sexual. This could be a lot of things.

You start coming to terms with, and I think you become more accepting. That's what I was trying to get to.

It was like you become more accepting to the whole thing and so then if this does come about she might say hey you know what maybe playing with another guy isn't that far away that could actually happen but if you don't start if you don't talk about it you don't think about it it's like null and void you you divorce it from your mind it's never going to go anywhere it's never going to happen sure it's not never going to make it to the table as an idea yeah well again one of the things that forced didn't force one of the things that led me into swinging was my uncle who was close with right you know he was not that much older than i was six years older right um and watching him die from cancer and realizing how fragile life is.

Yeah. So sometimes something like that, pardon me, too, could help people discover swinging or freedom. Well, anything that gives you pleasure in life. Yeah, freedom. You know, that's like, you know what? Life is fragile. Yeah. You know what? Is it really so bad that my husband or wife wants to see me have orgasms? I can think of worse things. Oh, a lot worse things. You know, but I'm saying it's like, really, that's all it boils down to. If you want to get down to the hot wife lifestyle, we're swinging, but I'm going to go with hot wife. Sure.

Cuckolding, whatever you want to call it, you know, is your significant other wants you or wants to see you have more orgasms wants you to have pleasure and that could be not just sexual pleasure like if you just take it out of the context of sex that could be well so many other things but it's a matter of tell me i'm wrong that you know you get done playing with someone and you had a bunch of orgasms and, you know, they had one or two or 17, whatever. When they leave, you feel good about yourself. It's like, oh, you feel sexy because, you know, they were turned on by you.

You were turned on by them. You made them come. Right, right. There's certain, like, ego boost. Yeah, it's, um. Like at the parties when I get done playing with however many women. Right. And they're all, you know... Disheveled and... Whatever. But, you know, there's an ego boost. Sure. You feel good about yourself. And you made them feel good, so that's good, too. No one was hurt. You didn't insult anybody or whatever. You know, so, I mean, that's the worst thing that comes out of it. So, anyway, so that was our take on how important fantasies are. Yeah, fantasies are very important.

Thank you. whatever and you know so i mean that's the worst thing that comes out of it so anyway so that was our take on how important fantasies are very important yeah i think so so so if you haven't explored it you need to explore you and your partner's fantasies i agree yeah and if you can make the joint effort and you can if it's not just one sided, it certainly, uh, like we said before, heightens the whole experience. I, I agree with that.

Sometimes it might take a, you know, a little bit of alcohol and you sit down there both buzzed and just sit there really have a hard, hard talk about fantasies and you might find something out. So anyway, so I want to thank you for listening. Um, and again, until next show show having a great night everybody