How do you Let Your Wife?

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Hi, this is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wife Podcast. Well, hello, everybody. This is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wna lynn and welcome to my hot wife podcast and welcome to another episode of uh this podcast and i'm here again with my wonderful husband vince i had to put that in there sorry i was wondering if you're gonna bypass it i was trying to meander around i was like no you are Let's just overstate the obvious. Yes, the wonderful husband part. Okay. Okay, well, I'm here with my douchebag husband. Okay, I'm sorry. The funny thing is, tonight's topic...

Yeah, I'm going to have you......is going to have, add some, for some people, is going to question, like, how wonderful is he? Or, you know. Oh, you are pretty wonderful. Well, tonight's topic comes to us from an email we received, um, that I tried to answer. Um, and as I went to answer it, for some reason, I don't know what happened. I hate windows. Okay. It threw everything into a, like, virus thing. So I don't know if it was something. Oh, really? Yeah, but the email stated something to the effect of how do you watch or let your wife play with others? It was something to that effect.

Yeah, I know it's a jealousy thing. How can you not be jealous watching your wife play with others? I'm to that effect yeah i know it's a jealousy thing like how can you not how can you not be jealous watching your wife play with i'm gonna be a little snotty here tonight because i know somebody my wife riled up my dogs and i love dogs but i have a pet allergy and so she riled them up so now my eyes are itching and my nose yeah well makes one of us but so now i to, we're in a separate little building that we have the studio in.

So I have to try to get over not, you know, all the pet dander that they mustered up. So, yeah. So tonight we're going to talk about, again, revisiting the hot wife scenario, the swinging, the voyeurism. Exactly. That kind of thing. So touch on what exactly a hot wife is while I quit blow my nose. Okay. Well, okay, this is my definition of a hot wife. And a hot wife is multifaceted. But for us, I play with my husband, with other people. But I also can go on hot dates without him once we've established. You can just say dates, okay? People might go, what's between a date and a hot date?

A hot date you get laid on. Well, you can get laid on a regular date, too. Oh, that's true. I think the hot date refers more to the aspect that you're married and you're out on a date night with somebody that isn't your husband. So now I blew my nose. You feel better? No, my ears are clogged. I almost can't hear myself, but I have fucking headphones. Sorry. Sorry about the snotty noises. Oh, yes, so alluring. I'm going to get laid tonight. Absolutely, dear. I'm aroused.

As soon as my girlfriend shows up, if I had one i had one um yeah so that's my definition of a hot wife yeah it's like i i can go on dates with other gentlemen and yeah and again by myself yeah well once we once we form a relationship with them and it's a safety issue yes it's what it's and by relationship it's that we've met them several times. Yes. We feel comfortable with them. Yes. We have a friendship. We trust them, and we trust them. There's a trust thing there. I just don't say, hi, excuse me, sir, would you like to take my wife out? I don't know you, but yeah. Yeah, go ahead.

So, well, addressing the overall topic of that email, first of all, I have been a photographer and a videographer for a lot of years, over 20 years, longer than that, actually. But anyway, so by nature, a photographer is a voyeur. Yep. You know, in whatever realm you want to look at it, if you're looking at photographs, whoever it is, even somebody with their phone shooting their kid or whatever, and I don't mean in a sick manner, just shooting a sunset, how's that? You're seeing the world through their eyes.

So, they're a voyeur of life for the world or however, and you're seeing the world through their eyes so they're a voyeur of life for the world or however and you're seeing it through their eyes you're seeing what how they see it yeah which is a neat concept i've always um liked that so so for me um one i'm I'm very secure with myself in my insecurity. What does that mean? One, I'm very secure with myself in my insecurity. What does that mean? Exactly. I haven't come up with the exact phrase. It's a Vince-ism, I guess. So many things are. Yeah, that's all right. But I'm going to sneeze.

I really hate you tonight. Sorry. You missed me. No, I'll reload. I really hate you tonight. Sorry. You missed me. I'll reload. I won't miss. But the jealousy, in my opinion, not experts, jealousy comes from insecurity. Yeah. Okay? Yeah, it's true. And we've talked about if you're basing your relationship on the fact that you think your partner will leave you because sex with somebody else is better then one you're insecure with yourself and two you're wrong in thinking that an orgasm is the only thing keeping them there yeah there's a lot more wrong with your relationship if they leave you.

Quite possibly. And if they leave you just for an orgasm, then there's something wrong with them anyway, and you don't want them. Yeah, if they're that shallow. Yeah. And we just had a friend of ours, and that's exactly what happened to them. They were in the lifestyle, and she just... Well, we don't know both sides. No, we don't know both sides.

We don't know know both sides i can't i'm not going to make an egg but that's just i mean i look on the outside it's yeah outwardly looking it looks that way yeah she fell in love with somebody else and but you know went on her way but we don't know we don't know her side we don't know all the no we've already met him once yeah so yeah there's there's lots of questions there but um yes could happen absolutely but that could happen in a in a regular relationship too not in the lifestyle you know you could just meet somebody and fall in love with them and then leave your significant other and i'm guilty of this one you go someplace a different part of the country of the world you visit it and and go, oh my God, that was great.

I'd love to live there. But you haven't lived there long enough or been there long enough that you know if it really is all that great. Right. Now, I understand a woman gets with me. It is great. What are you laughing at? Nothing, dear. Just, I'm agreeing with you. That's what I'm doing. That didn't quite sound like you were agreeing with me. Oh, but I was agreeing with you. That shaking my head was definitely, that's agreement right there. Okay, that's what that was. Yeah. And the little L that I have on my forehead is for love.

Okay.'m not insecure of myself if you wanted to leave me or you wanted me out you know we've had this discussion if you know you said hey you said, hey, you know what? This ain't working. I would sit and go, no shit. You're like, God, it's about time, bitch. Jesus Christ. God. I was wondering what I had to do. God, it's been 19 years. What? God, are you ever going to be paroled? Jesus. But, you know, I would just leave. I mean, don't get me wrong. I'd be, you know, hurt for about three minutes. Devastated for three minutes. Yeah. Unconsolable for three minutes.

But, you know, it's like, hey, you know, there's, you know, life goes on. It's, you know, but I don't get jealous. and as far as watching you with other people, men, women, weird zoo animals. Thanks. But watching, I look at it again from a voyeuristic type of a thing.

That I'm enjoying watching two people giving and receiving pleasure from each other uh-huh hopefully yeah hopefully there's been a few cases that wasn't happening um well on their end yeah i understand that what else is it goes talking about exactly that's what i think it's like god he's not enjoying this at all maybe she should stop. I had to get some gift certificates for the local rub and tug. Here, go get it. She obviously didn't satisfy you. I know that feeling. Try that spa down the street. Yeah, yeah. Tell them Vince sent you. Oh, Vinci-san sent you. Very good. I know.

You're trying to mess with his wife. Yeah, she no good. Anyway, it was just Asian and Italian mixed together. How the fuck that happened? Anyway, but the south side of the Orient. Anyway, now I guess to be, to say for my shoes, I guess, you and I are very secure in our relationship. If I was playing with another woman. I would be. And for whatever reason and didn't say Donna, come join in, which wouldn't happen. You'd be fine with it. Yeah. You know. We've already had, yeah, this discussion of nauseam here. So,.

Yeah, but I'm just trying to explain to the person who wrote in, I don't remember their name, so I apologize for that. But, you know, just to help people who, maybe some people who listen to the podcast that still have curiosity, like, oh, I would love to play with someone else. I couldn't let my mate play with someone else else what's good for the goose is good for the gander it's got to be but it's besides you have to look at it as in my opinion you can look at however you want but my opinion it's you and i have discussed it we've even it on air. It actually has added to our sex life.

Oh, yeah. It really has. You have some of the craziest orgasms when you start talking about that. And you're like, yeah, you're going to be a bad girl. I like when you're a bad girl. Okay, we don't have to get into all those. Oh, I love that. I love that. I don't sit there and talk about it. You're like, oh, put your whole fist in my ass. You know, I don't tell all your secrets. Fist, both fists, dear. Yeah, and wear the boxing gloves. And wear the boxing gloves. Tight, huh? The biggest ones you can find. No, I think that's high. I love that. You'd say, give me the OJ.

Put your fist in my ass, but keep your fingers spread wide open. Wide open. We call that the OJ. Yay. She does fit. How do I quit? Yeah, it's, again, when you see your mate being the faces of pleasure and everything else, not that I haven't seen it when I give it to her. What are you laughing at? I don't seen it when I give it to her What are you laughing at? Nothing I don't think so Bitch Anyway Don't Stay away from the buttons Stay away from those goddamn buttons I I got that. God! Okay. But anyway. He's got to do that one. Put on some damn panties.

There's a new one I'm going to make that she has, talks about cabal toe. Really? That's too funny. But no, it's being secure with yourself, being secure with your relationship. If you're not secure in your relationship, the last thing you want to do is swing. I agree. Or have children. Either one, yeah. It's not going to help it. It's not going to help it at all. It's going to undermine it. Swinging is not for people that are not comfortable and secure in their relationship or with themselves. Both of you have to be secure with yourselves, secure in your relationship.

I mean, a hard cold fact people have to realize, as much as we don't want to necessarily recognize this, in your relationship, you're not going to spend the majority of your time in the bedroom. What? Gee, it isn't so. You do, but I tell you, get in there and dust, make the bed, change the sheets. I live for that. That's what I live for. Yeah, you don't. You spend most of your time outside the bedroom, so your relationship, you have to have more than just an orgasm to bring you together. You have to have some kind of groundwork that you can build this relationship on.

Yeah, and the fact of, okay, let's pretend you're not in swinging. Would feel comfortable and there's people who don't um letting your significant other there's this i could be talking to men women or whatever you identify as masturbate like my old wife did not want me to masturbate am Am I the young wife if she's the old one? I don't think so. No. Give me your mistake. My first wife. Your mistake number one. Oh, my God. Mistakes don't stop. I can't help you with that one. So that was her attempt at being funny. Well, you said your old wife. I was like. My first one. Okay.

But she looks older than you, I think. Oh, and she's eight years younger than me, which is a little scary. I'm six. She's seven. Oh, seven years? Yeah. Okay. I thought it was eight years. I thought there's two years between you, not one. She looks more like eight years older than you. Well, whatever. She doesn't listen to this podcast, so I don't care. That we know of. But where were they going? You have to be secure in your relationship. Oh, yeah. But, you know, like the masturbation thing. I mean, sorry, your first wife. Yeah.

No, I mean, like, and you've run into where girls that you knew yes their significant others wouldn't let them have vibrators because the men felt challenged yeah they were they were saying oh it's so much competition they don't think they'll be able to satisfy me if i use a vibrator are you kidding me my vibrator suck to begin with exactly it's like there's no way that vibrator can can do to my pussy like what you do with your tongue let's look at the average guy that eats your pussy let's take me out of the equation and i'm not trying to foot my own boat i'm just saying look at the average pussy eating guy yeah there's something like do a good know, oh, do the alphabet, you know.

Come on, it's terrible. It's terrible. It's not good. Well, okay, let's just say it doesn't work for me. I won't say it's terrible. That's just wrong. It's just that technique does not work on me. Okay, fair enough. I hate the lazy tongue. Yeah, it is, yeah. I'm not a, it's like the little kid with a lollipop. Yeah, it's slow. No. It's a turtle from the commercial. How many licks to the center? At that rate, $6,502,000. Yeah, I'm never going to get there. But, yeah.

So, again, if you're threatened by a vibrator, and I've told people, I know guys that have said to me in the past, oh, no, ma'am, I would never let her take. Never let her. See, those are dangerous words right there. But how about the aspect, and I've told them that, well, why don't you look at it as a tool, not a weapon? Exactly. You know, like, did you ever put it on her clit while you're fucking her? Well, no.

It here's a little secret it benefits both of you oh yes it does whether you get the vibrations or you're just getting her fucking gyrating like a fish out of fucking you're flipping around like a fish out of water it's all good it is all good i agree i have to keep apologizing for how snotty i'm just bad i'm sorry it's not covid or anything else sorry to say i will be here forever and uh It's just COVID or anything else, sorry to say. I will be here forever, and it's just pure fucking allergies. My fault. Yeah, it is. The dogs miss me. They do.

I come home from work, and they're just so excited to see me. Mixed one of us. Um, but, um, so if you're, if your relationship isn't stable, whether the relationship with yourself, your relationship with them, or their relationship with themselves. Yes, I agree. Yeah, you don't want to. No, you don't want to make, you don't want to jump into the deep end then. No, no, this is.

And the thing is, couples have to have this serious is is is this something that they're both interested in if the answer is yes okay are we going to be okay watching some you know me with somebody else and you with somebody else are you going to be okay again we're going to get back into the the one show we had say honey let's try swinging let's try swinging yeah you know um if there is any remote interest i suggest people start with soft swing which is where you just have and you meet another couple and no one plays with each with the other couple you play with each other but in front of another couple so you're having sex with your mate in front of another couple having sex together so it's like same room sex kind of.

Well, same room sex is you could swap partners, but it's in the same room. I thought that was soft swapping. No, soft swapping is when... No penetration. Yeah, just... Oral. Just oral with each other. Okay. Same room is when everybody's in the same room. Oh, but you're switching partners. You could be with her husband or her or whatever. I could only be with her. Oh, yes, we know that. We've established that. I'm just saying it again. And, but, you know, you know, so. I don't even, I don't even. Soft swap is also where no one swaps. You just have sex with your partner.

They have sex with their partner, but it's in the same room, and you guys can see each other and watch each other and get turned on by that. Okay. And try that first. Yeah, see how that works. See if you're comfortable having sex in front of other people and how you feel about watching other people and being watched by other people.

A precursor to this maybe would be to even just watch some porn together just so it's like you know maybe just i think you hopefully if you're in a relationship you have some kind of feel for what your mate's sexual triggers are and we've talked about this recently where we've run into some people like well i can't let my wife know I want to be pegged. Oh, yeah, that's another show we did. I have some fetishes I can't tell my wife about.

If you're not in a relationship where you could be as close to 100% honest with them about your sexual desires, and they should be with you, in all fairness, know a wife might like hey i'd like to try bbc you know the husband might feel real threatened by that you know i i guess i can understand that well some guys um are worried that their unit size versus someone else's unit size is going to make a difference. I guess to some women it might. It might. We have no size queens and they won't even look at anybody who's less than nine inches or ten inches or whatever that ridiculous number is.

Whatever. Whatever their number is, it's their number and that's their business. That's not me.

But again, you have to ask ask yourself do you want to eat flaming yon every night so if you had let's say you were a size queen and you had nine inches 10 inches available to you every night at what point does that thing that used to be so special was so great all of a sudden it's like okay yeah here it is again i guess i guess they're going to go up to the 12 13 inches and then i don't know you know whatever pretty soon it's like baseball bats whatever you want whatever you want to chase i mean but all of a sudden you might sit down here i'm getting tired of my fucking uh cervix wall being banged the shit out of let's let me go find a five-incher you know you know i see that's just not my thing i'm i'm a small see, that's just not my thing.

I'm a small person. It's not my thing, baby. It's not my thing, baby. What's this book here? It says, is my cervical getting banged? Banged is my thing. Is my thing, baby? It's not my thing, baby. By Donald Linn? It's not my thing. Swedish cervical wall banging? No, no, stop it. Stop it with your awesome power references. Very weak there, mister, very weak. But I'm small, so it's, you know, I'll see you next time. No, no, stop it, stop it with your awesome power references. Very weak there, mister, very weak.

But I'm small, so, you know, I just don't, I mean, I've taken on some guys with pretty big dicks, but I've got to really be worked up. There's got to be a whole lot of things in motion before I'm tackling that. I just can't say, you know, just walk right in and go ahead. Door doors open just jump right in back that truck in here yeah exactly that's not gonna happen so it's a cervix oh man sometimes that's just not pleasant for me yeah i just that's just and see now that's the things where I don't enjoy watching you with others. When I see you guys doing stuff that I know you're not enjoying.

Right. Yeah, I agree. Then all of a sudden. You know, I don't want to be rude in the middle of having sex. Like, stop that. I don't like being choked. Or stop that. I don't like being pummeled. We generally tell people the rules. Yeah, we forgot a couple times. I got the hand around the neck thing. Next time, next person is going to get decked. Thank you. We generally tell people the rules. Yeah, we forgot a couple times. I got the hand around the neck thing. Next time, next person is going to get decked. I'm just at the mic. Just give me the word. I'll do it. No, I want to do it.

I think we're going to be much more powerful. How rude is that? Just bite down on their dick. Well, I wasn't in that position. Well, just sit there and go, hey, can we stop this? Stop choking me. I want to suck your dick. Yeah. Yep. I mean, some people are into that, but don't assume. Don't assume. It would be like me, like smack them across the face. Oh, oh, I thought you liked that. I always smack guys across the face. Don't want me to put my foot in your ass? Oh, my God.

Oh i thought you like that all men like that yeah jesus christ and i even spread my toes out wide too my high heels on oh i thought you really would like that i thought you wanted me to kick you in the nuts i think maybe we're missing the boat with that and i'm just gonna go off side like a little sidebar here real quick. It's like when you're with a new partner, like if you do decide to swing, a good conversation to have are what are your turn-ons, what are your boundaries, are there things you do and don't do?

So when you go into that situation, you're not meeting up with people like, yeah, choking is what we always do.

My girlfriend loved that yeah if you have a profile you know you should kind of spell it like hey i like be rough sex hey i like you know oh yeah i mean you won't necessarily spell out every goddamn thing like oh i'd love to be you know anally fistfuck might not want to say that you know in case your boss finds out your boss happens to be on the site and hey hey i've been how's that project going and uh can i jam my fist in your ass yeah not well one of the guys i didn't uh reach out from this site you know he goes what kind of sex you like rafa i'm like no no absolutely not i mean there are guys that i'm with and i've known for a while and we do get pretty rambunctious but i've known i've been with them i've played Thank you.

no no absolutely not i mean there are guys that i'm with and i've known for a while and we do get pretty rambunctious but i've known i've been with them i've played with them two or three or four times and if they we they know my threshold and i know theirs they know like how hard to pull my hair how hard to push my face into their crotch and yeah i guess if anybody if anybody... Can you talk slower? And how hard... Stop it. Stop it. You're making me laugh. Donna! Oh, you're an ass.

If people were to see that, they would just assume that that's what I like all the time and that's just not right. This person knows me. This my limitations and i trust you're comfortable with i'm comfortable with them i mean it's sort of like when you did the uh your bdsm party oh yes before that when you met him for your training session right he went over a whole thing like using stoplight analogy if like okay if it's good say green if it's if i'm hitting you too hard or whatever's starting to get too hard a little uncomfortable is yellow and If it's good, say green.

If I'm hitting you too hard or whatever's starting to get too hard, a little uncomfortable, it's yellow. And if it's too hard, it's red. But then you ask, well, is this the Jersey traffic lights or the Pennsylvania ones? Were they upright? Were they on the side? How exactly do I read this? Are there blinking lights? Is there a yield? Do you have little arrows? What if we're going to a school zone? No, no, that's just wrong on summary levels. No, is there someone in the crosswalk? Do I just keep what you hit me? You know, it's a state law. You have to stop.

If an emergency vehicle's coming, do we both pull over? It was very confusing. Yes. But you're right. I mean, it was legitimately, he's very good at conveying and showing me what to do. It's about learning your partner. And again, if it's one of those one-night stand things, you're not going to bother doing that. You pick somebody up at the bar or whatever. You just go and fuck. And you've got to sit there and go, no, you're not doing that. Or, no, please do that. Exactly. But in a swing lifestyle, sometimes you have that opportunity.

And I hope that you invite that opportunity to have those conversations before you meet yeah i mean we're texting i'm always texting like you know um people have been coming over and what they like what they don't like like the gentleman we're uh talking to tomorrow night um you know i've had other people reach out to us through these sites and I'm seeing more and more people are breaking off into groups. And I think it's reflecting on society now where, unfortunately, we're all breaking off into groups, politically, religious. Whatever. Yeah, different ones. Well, like interests. Yes.

And this one person reached out to us like, oh, yeah, I'm part of this one kinky group it's like oh okay good for you you know but you know in this gentleman we're talking to he used to be part of a whole group thing that was all about gangbangs gangbangs before um you know there's you know again um the people that we had party with, they're part of a BDSM group, okay? So, you're seeing. Well, that kind of makes sense.

Why would I want to be around people if it's like, you know, if you go into a group situation and you're leaning more toward BDSM and, like, you want to be, you know, you want to be spanked, you want to be tied down and spanked, and you come in and it's very vanilla, you're going to be leaving very disappointed. And the same thing if you're a more vanilla person going into a party, and all of a sudden they start strapping you down to the spanking bench or put you up on a St. Andrew's Cross, you're going to be like, what the fuck, get me out of here. Don't yell into the microphone. I'm sorry.

I mean, what can you imagine? Okay, sorry. You've got to calm down. I'm just thinking about it. Stop drinking, Jesus. I only had two sips. Apparently too many. Well, I mean, just think about it. If you're in that situation. And my point was, honey. Yes, dear. Love of my life. Oh, my God.

Was that people are breaking off into groups now um with people of like-mindedness in so many ways not just sexually but yeah so yeah if you're so so inclined to go bdsm yes you're going to find a bdsm group that you're comfortable in you might not be you know i mean um you know if you're into the gangbang thing as an example right you're going to find a BDSM group that you're comfortable in. You might not be, you know, I mean, you know, if you're into the gangbang thing, as an example, you're going to find a gangbang group that has the guys you want. Exactly.

You know, if, I don't know what other kind of groups there would be. Oh. Yeah, I'm just saying, whatever. You know, if you're a cross-dressing group or whatever. I don't think we're ever part of any group. We don't fit well in the groups. Yeah. Well, the only group that we kind of had was when we had the photo parties. There was people that wanted their pictures taken for their profiles. Yeah. And so it was that kind of a thing. They were a little more, I want to say artsy.

I mean, they came with, we kind of like gave them an idea of like what the themes are going to be and they said they came without extra outfits so it's more like a big photo shoot yeah but that quickly broke into a um i don't want to put this it's not gonna be politically correct i'm gonna guarantee that it it came a very segmented party where there were people who thought they were the pretty people. Oh, yes. And then there were people that were the average looking people. That's us. Let's put it that way. Yeah. We're average looking. Okay. You're the one of the pretty people. Thank you.

I'm bringing this whole relationship down because I'm like average, you know. I think it's true. I'm the albatross around your neck. get it deeper than the goddamn titanic that might be yeah yeah way down anyway um but no so people would sign up for the parties yeah and we'd be counting on the head count and uh all of a sudden they well, you know, we saw you had this one couple coming and they were kind of fat so we didn't want to come. It's like because they're there doesn't mean you have to play with them. It was a matter of, yeah, they're going to be there and they want pictures too.

You know, and, you know, hey, you know what, maybe meet and talk to them. You know what, you might be finding out they're really nice people. You know, just because they might not be... Visually what you are. Visually appealing. Yes. Doesn't mean they're not great people. Oh, we've met some people that were, you know, visually maybe not quite to our... Well, compared to me, everybody isn't. Well, that's true, hon.

I know, you're just, oh my God, you're like the Braditt of brad pitt brad pitt says i wish i was vince yeah i know all the time he uses me as the you know comparison oh yeah i hear it from all the time you know i mean i had to talk with him some years ago he was doing a movie and i was like brad you gotta put it this way what's in the box what's in the box don't look in the box what's in the box anyway uh and i thought he was doing a porn movie when i said that but look in her box hello hello um it's terrible anyway um but uh instead of judging people i mean the the swing world can be very superficial that's a big word for me huh look at that jeez i think i'm sitting down and drinking alcohol yes um they you know they want to pair themselves up with someone they see of their quality without necessarily knowing if that person is of their quality.

Just because someone might not be as visually appealing to you does not make them not your quality. I agree. I have been judged that way. Oh, I know. I am two bolts in my neck away from being frankenstein that's why you don't see my face anywhere um so i'm honest with it you're laughing so that means you agree um but um so i mean we've had experiences where people were obviously not enthralled with me yeah you got shunned big time a few times yeah um and i think you know as if you Thank you.

people were obviously not enthralled with me yeah you got shunned big time a few times yeah um and i think you know as if you if you listen to any of our podcasts other than this one you'll see i will tell you what i think i'm not shy nope i wish you were sometimes but you're not not even close no and that's what you know one of the things at work i think that uh they love and hate about me oh yeah you just tell it like it is you may not like it but yeah tell it like it comes time for someone to be a bad guy they call vince so i work i work in a gun store and sometimes we get people that um need to be removed or should not be there and we're doing something stupid with a loaded gun and they send Vincent.

I'm shaking my head. Anyway. Again, I don't understand people. But anyway, different story, different show. Absolutely. But we're getting way, way off topic here. But, yeah, people will... Getting back to the original topic of how do you let your mate do it or how do you watch your mate with others. Right. There are people who can't. There are people who don't want to do same sex. They want to play, and they know their mate's going to play, but they'll do different room. Oh, they don't want to be able to... They don't want to... They don't want to see it.

They don't want to they don't want to see it they don't want to witness if i don't see it i don't know about it whatever you know half the fun i i found well sure you know we had a but we also do it because i am a voyeur right um and i know you're having fun at least as we've discussed when i know you're having fun, it's very obvious to me when you're enjoying who you're playing with. Right. Versus when you're playing with someone you're not having fun with. When you're playing with someone you're not having fun with, it doesn't turn me on. Exactly. And this I know. Yeah.

Um, but when you're playing with someone that you are having fun with, it's very, very to me i like that because i like having fun with the you know my playmates and if i'm not having fun i'm i'm you know it's not fun for me then i'm missing it out so yeah i i know what you mean well if you're having fun it's a win-win because you know you're turning me on too you're teasing me and you're getting to enjoy it and generally the guy you're having fun, it's a win-win because you know you're turning me on, too. You're teasing me, and you're getting to enjoy it.

And generally, the guy you're playing with is having a good time. I would hope. And then when you and I get together later on that night, we talk about it. It heightens the whole thing. Sure. You know? Well, we talk about while we're playing. Yeah, while we're playing. We talk about what a bad girl I was. It's fun being a bad girl. I like being a bad girl. Yeah. You know. I'm bad for me. I'm not really that bad.

Well, no, the bad girl is, I mean, again, if you look at stereotypical society standards, the fact that you're playing with other men in front of your husband would make you a lot of things, a slut, a whore, whatever. Oh, that's me. It depends on how you want to read that. Just pick out whatever label you want. I don't, you know. Do you want to make a slut a negative or positive thing? Yeah, we talked about that before, too. See, I like the word freak better than the slut. Yeah, freak's something else to me, but. Well, I do have a freaky side.

I'm trying to think how I would define my definition of freak. You know, a freak to me is more like, yeah, man, I like hooking jumper cables up to my nipples. Okay, that's beyond. See, that's the freak. That's the freak. I look at freak. That's the kind of shit I Freak. It's like, okay, like that dude, Spanky. How is pretty Freak. That motherfucker's a Freak. He's a Freak. That, you know, he wants an eight-inch shocking dildo up his fucking ass. Yeah, he came in wearing a cock cage. Yeah, smack my nuts, you know. No, that's kind of Freaky. That's kind of Freaky.

The only reason why I said the word Freak is my two co-workers, the one that I played with, and the one that found me on OnlyFans, both said, oh, Donna, you're a freak. Okay. Only because they. Okay. You can use freak in a sense of compared to the average woman. Compared to the average woman. Yeah.

You're not in the top 90 percentile of average women not when it comes to sexual sexual yeah yeah okay being adventurous sexually but then inside of our sexual realm yeah i'm not that freaky you're not that freaky yeah yeah so i mean how many women you talk about doing anal they're like nope nope not doing anal nope gotta get that. Nope, got to get that one, that's the exit only. I'm like, I don't know, man. You got to put a butt plug in. Well, hang on now, hang on. It took me a while. About a year ago. Until about a year ago. We were doing anal before we were married, my love.

But not that often. Now you do anal almost every time. That's what I'm saying. Anal was something infrequent. You have to work yourself into it. No. No. You have to have special toys. It just slides. Not for me. No. I think you have to write lube. You have to correct. I'll hit the button. No, don't do that. I will hit the button. You have to get another one. Don't make me hit the button. No, no. Get that butt plug out of your ass. Put some panties on. Yeah, I mean, no. Before, up until about a year ago, you were very rarely. Yeah, yeah. Very, very rarely.

And it took a lot of foreplay to get you to get you there yeah now it's like hey donnie oh yeah stick with my ass i was like i was gonna ask you when to do dishes i actually wanted a cup of coffee but okay whatever trying to see what you wanted to do for dinner but apparently you went anal okay i was gonna go with a steak on the grill, but okay, yes, all right, not a post either, but don't put my steak up your ass and on the grill. Oh, yeah, like every time we play, I always make sure I prep first, just in case, just in case.

But then when you and I mess around, I start to go near your ass, I didn't prep for you, everybody else. Oh, should I be prepping for you too? No No, that's all right. I don't know, buddy. I always get the shitty end of the stick. See, I worked that in there, didn't I? Yes, I did. I'm going to do it. Shut up! Girl, go put some damn panties on. Okay, you earned that one. I got the one out of the way.

That's keep your fingers away from the goddamn buttons yeah you tell me that later in bed anyway yeah so but um yeah no i mean granted watching your mate play with someone else is not for everyone no there's a lot of people would be be like, nope. To answer the general question, 40 minutes later, the real answer to the question we could have gotten out of the way is, I'm secure with myself. We're secure in our relationship. And I find it very arousing. And I am not challenged by it. Oh, there you go. Okay, we can just end the show now.

I mean, if Donna wants to leave me or whoever wants to leave you, they're going to leave you, whether it's your sex or anything else. Right, that's true. So you know what? If your significant other craves something else and you're okay with it to some degree, try it. You know what? Embrace it.

Even if, let's say once a year, you a date like we did it something years ago um on valentine's day yep donna would do hot dates with one of my single friends yeah they weren't even uh they weren't in the lifestyle they were single guys that weren't dating or anything else and she would go out on a date and i explained to him yeah take her out for dinner and then she's gonna suck and fuck you yep and i did too and um you know it's it's kind of arousing because it's also one of those little dirty secrets you have that other people don't know so it's kind of it's arousing in that level too, always for us.

Oh, yes. Especially with the one friend that you had where I had sex. Yeah, I only have one friend. Yeah, I'm the closest friend. It's like we see him periodically and just knowing that I mess around with him. And more recently, we offered him. You know, the open door for anal. Yeah. He's just been going through a lot. He and I talked the other day. And job this and that. He's been going through a whole lot. But not that he doesn't want to, but his mind's everywhere but on sex right now. What? A man whose mind is not on sex?

He should really be thinking more about sex to help relieve all the other shit. Yeah, maybe. But yeah, I mean, you know, well, we'll see what happens. It's an open door, you know. Yeah, so to speak. It's an open back door. Oh, aren't you clever? Oh, man, you were like on a roll tonight, mister. Liquid show. Of course. A little bourbon, baby. What am I drinking tonight? I don't know. What are you drinking tonight? Oh, Legend. Okay. Yeah, this is bourbon aged in sherry casks. Oh. Yeah, it's very good. It sounds good. It's very good. I won't enjoy it, but it sounds good. And more for me.

That's fine. Okay. So, anyway.

So that, that hopefully kind of answered that question yeah there's just some people that'll never ever be secure i mean when you talk about swinging is in general about being secure i yes if there are some people that are too secure well there's some people that fuck it was out here jerk it off and he's waiting for you oh my god you know we came out of pool swimming and stuff like that and you went up to do something take a shower or whatever and we're sitting down here i'm cooking dinner on the grill on the deck and he's sitting there jerking off i'm like dude um yeah why would you do that anyway or there's some people that get into the swinging world that they'll be like i'm gonna play i'm gonna drag my in this case it was a wife and she's gonna just take one for the team so i can get what i want and it's like that's not that's not swinging either that's being selfish and ridiculous those people have to be into it and want to do it yep you know there's sometimes there's one person that's like i'm gonna do this and this is what i want i'm just gonna drag you along with me and you know that's all there is to it and you're gonna take one for the team or we're not gonna play i think at that point the mate realizes if i don't do it he's just he or she is going to do it anyway they're gonna cheat on me anyway So I'm either cognitive of it and get some fun with it.

Possibly. Or let them cheat. Yeah. And there was a couple that we played with that it was obvious she was taking one for the team. Yep. Of course, I taught him a lesson. But they wound up breaking up anyway. Breaking up anyway. So whatever. All right. Yeah. We just bored you for 45 minutes. Sorry about that that we took something it was a two-minute answer and made it a 45-minute show oh well it's not it's not as easy and cut and dried is what people think well we kind of meandered off and wanted to so and again i apologize for the snottyness but blame donna you. I'm here for your blame. Okay.

I'm good with that. Okay, I'm sure you are. Thank you. I'm really fine with that. Yep. Can I have that in writing? I'm sure I can do that. You can just blame me. Okay, sure. Just blame me. I have, how many people was in the show? Three. Three. I got three witnesses. Thank you. So nice. All right. I want to thank everyone for listening. We will be doing shows. Yeah. Christmas isn't going to hamper us. No. Christmas isn't going to hamper us at all.

Again, I want to tell everybody that whatever, which way you celebrate the holidays we wish you the best yes enjoy um and you know in whichever form it is that fits your thing we wish you all the best and um you know again christmas is still two weeks away i'll use that as the i mean christmas as the uh focal point okay if you're happy Hanukkah, whenever that is. I'm not privy to that. If you celebrate Kwanzaa. Happy Kwanzaa. Happy Kwanzaa, whenever that is. I'm not sure. I'm not trying to be a wise-ass. Yeah. I'm not, you know, I'm a coward in front of me. I'm lucky I know what Christmas is.

Yeah. I think they moved it to the 18th, didn't they? No. I'm sure they didn't. Oh, shit. Okay. I think I'm working on Christmas. It's a Saturday, isn't it? A Sunday. It's a Sunday? Yeah. I actually do have a, wow. We could actually do a Christmas show on Christmas. Oh my goodness, yes we could. I think we need to see if we can find you someone that you can give them a Christmas present on the show. Oh, wouldn't that be fun? I do like opening packages. Sitting on packages. Having them deliver your package. We'll have to see. Yeah, that sounds like fun.

Actually, the gentleman we're meeting tomorrow night might be able to do that. Yeah. Because he's no kids, to my knowledge. We'll see. Yeah. We'll have to... Okay. Anyway. Oh, let's have to think about that one. Yeah, some homework. Get two weeks. So, again, thank you, everyone, for listening. Please subscribe on whatever platform it is. iHeartRadio, Apple, Soon, Amazon. Ooh, yes. It's amazing how many platforms we're on and platforms we're not even privy to that take our podcast and put it on theirs. I don't care. Just listen. We're the merrier.

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