In this episode of the Hot Wife Podcast, the hosts delve into the nuances of relationships, particularly focusing on the distinctions between hot wives and swingers. They explore the dynamics of cuckolding, the transition from swinging to being a hot wife, and the importance of establishing rules for playmates. The conversation also touches on the spiritual aspects of sexual experiences, the significance of feedback, and the necessity of trust and communication in non-monogamous relationships. Humor plays a vital role throughout the discussion, making it both informative and entertaining.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/hot-wife-podcast-and-the-swinger-lifestyle--5343522/support. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Welcome to the Hot Wife Podcast, where we dive into discussions about relationships, intimacy, and everything in between. Before we begin, we want to make it clear that the views expressed on this podcast are solely those of the host and guests, and should be taken as opinions, not professional or medical advice. Additionally, we remind all listeners that this podcast is intended for adults over the age of 18. Unauthorized rebroadcast of this show is strictly prohibited without the written permission of the owners of Hot Wife Podcast. Now let's heat things up. Hello, everybody.
This is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wife Podcast. My Hot Wife Podcast. Maybe this should be the Hot Husband Podcast. Is that what you're trying to say? It's coming. Especially since, well, Vince got to have a play date, and his play date is here. We're here with Jay. Jay got to play with Vince today. I have to check. Did the check clear? The check clear. So say hello to everybody, Jay. She raised how much she wanted, but I didn't have that much cash. Oh, okay. I thought I had to pay him. No. Well, I don't know.
This is unusual because I know you've had this podcast for a while, but until recently, I was not a hot wife. I was definitely a swinger, but certainly not a... Oh, there's a difference. Yes. That's a cool topic we can definitely delve into. A little bit of a difference. Let's do the first things first. Okay. Right off the bat, our email is info at hotwifepodcast. You want to reach out to us in comments, questions, topics, or whatever. I'd love to hear from you. Second of all, I want to wish our prayers and thoughts to all the people, Tennessee and North Carolina and stuff.
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And use Hot Wife in the discount code and get 10% off your order. Nice. Okay. So, anyway, where were we? The difference between a hot wife and a swinger. That's pretty interesting. Most people kind of like just put them all together. Well, they do overlap. To some degree they do, right, Jay? Absolutely. You can do both. This is Jay. Let's introduce her first. This is Jay. We have talked about the house parties numerous times on the podcast. All good. Jay is the hostess with the mostess. And so we have mentioned her. You and your husband were on the podcast one time. Yes, we were.
I think more than once. More than once. It was a two-part show. It was about the whole power exchange. Yeah Yeah, we talked about power exchange. Yeah. Okay. So, all right. So, difference between hot wives and swingers. Mm-hmm. And then you can be a swinger and not be a hot wife. But I don't think you can be a hot wife without being a swinger. I think that would be difficult. I don't think... That's just called cheating. Yeah. That's just called cheating, right? Yeah, that's just called...
Because I can't see, you know, the male spouse being okay with his wife being a hot wife if he's not doing something, too. Well, they're cuckled. Yeah, I'm getting the cuckled, you're right. If you'reold, you know, cuckold could just want to see his wife and, you know. He doesn't participate necessarily. Yeah, but he's there, right? Yeah, well, again, there's different levels of cuckold, too. She could have her phone there. I think it depends on their agreement and how much into cuckolding, how far does it go? Is it to the humiliation?
There's a cuckold who want to be humiliated There's ones who want to be humiliated and help Oh yeah, helping the cleanup And helping the arousal Of the male That could be possible too So yeah, there's a whole That's true It's a little out of our realm, isn't it, dear? No, it's out of mine. I know. I was like, dude, you can't get hard, it's on you. I will say Bob has enjoyed when I'm out on my own, getting a phone call from the man, telling him exactly what's going on. Or saying things like, Jay would talk right now, but she has her mouth full. Right. Yeah. Things like that. Okay.
But, you know, so I guess it's possible but unusual. Yeah, it would be possible but unusual. Yeah.
Well, I know I've been on hot dates, or you have been not in the room, and had a playmate And I had my phone there But you go out to dinner We go out to dinner and stuff But when we were playing though I had my phone there And I would call you Where I'd take videos or pictures Never enough pictures of videos If you ask me Oh, I know There were never enough pictures I'm not that good with it anyway Because once I get into the groove It's like You don't think about picking up your phone Here's the pictures I get I get a picture of Oh, here's what I'm eating f***ing picture of a television.
It's like, oh, we're finished up. We're watching TV now. It's like, wow. We didn't know. We never watched TV. I never sent your pictures. Yes, you did with the guy up the street when he lived up here. Yes, you did. The guy? Oh, in those townhouses. Yes. No, we were not watching TV. Yes, you were. Oh, wait, yes. Yes. Because his playroom, hold on. The bed that he played on, he didn't use his personal bed for playing. Okay, it was in the basement. He had another bed.
It was just strictly for play, and he had a tv there so yes while we're playing he has a tv going i'm like why what what was on it was it like porn no it was it was like heroes it was the baseball game marcher family i don't know it was something non-sexual non-stimulating in that aspect. Evening news. That would just be dead. Now, maybe he was afraid his neighbors might hear through the wall, so he put the TV on to help mask my screen. Well, if you're in a townhouse, that might be important. That might be. That makes sense. I'm looking to get pictures of her in action.
I can't can't be You can hand him the phone That's hard to do You can hand him the phone Well that's hard for him to do too Depending what you're doing I mean You know It's a small price to pay You're sitting there going like Hey you get to have my wife And all I ask is a couple I didn't say every 30 seconds I said a couple And the couple I get is what she's eating and like, oh, look, we're done. We're watching TV now. You know what you should do? You should, if you're sitting at a bar or something, you should start playing with his cock. And then you can just take a picture. Sure.
And that might help. And that would be easy enough to do.
Yeah, that would be easy enough to do yeah that would be easy enough to do see all right but once he gets into like real action like i'm not going to be taking pictures thank you it just interrupts the whole thing that's why i'm sorry vince i'm really selfish about that part of the time okay i can't be like oh i know you're gonna come right now but let me go get my phone You know what I'm saying It was a picture of the top of your head You know It's like okay I get the idea That's cool I know you're going to come right now, but let me go get my phone. You know what I'm saying?
It was a picture of the top of your head, you know? It's like, okay, I get the idea. That's cool. You know, you need an official photographer. I'll get pictures next time. So, like, look at the carpet he has. Isn't that cool? We could use that in the den. Wow. This is a cool picture he has on the wall. It's like, yeah, okay. It really turns me on. Now, being doggy style, all you're going to see is like my nipples or something or like my belly. I get really, you know, you've done some videos, and I get really self-conscious about my body when I see the videos. Oh, yeah, I get that.
It's like I see Donna, and she's like firm and trim and all good. Don't you say you saw her videos. Huh? I have seen her. I've seen some of the videos that I have participated in. Yes, you have. Yeah, just keep drinking. I'm firm. Keep going with that. More bourbon. From pain in the ass. Firm. I was firm. Maybe 40 years ago I was firm. Not quite so firm now. Well. You're not bad. You're not bad. You hold up. It could only get worse. Don't compare and despair. It's not worth it. Yeah. Whatever. Hey, you know what? Every moment God gives you, appreciate it.
Every moment is a gift because you don't know where the last one is. I get it. You don't know. The next moment may never come. Oh, the never come? That'd be terrible. Oh, you mean come. Of course I do. Different kind of come. Different kind of come. Different spelling. Only slightly. You know, and I hate when I do that word when I'm texting it. Right. It always wants to spell check it to something else. I know. It does that with a lot of words. No. Boyfriend's one thing. Boss is another. I'll be coming into work late. C-U-M-M-I-N. No,ends on your issue with your boss.
It could be an honest spelling mistake. Nobody. Maybe. But if you're texting, you always have to go to that bottom part and hit It'll say parenthesis Come, close parenthesis Yeah, that's the word I want That's the word I want It's even like when you use voice to text Oh, I'll be home in a little bit And it comes out and says, you've ruined my life, bitch I hate when it does that That seems to be a common one It seems to, he adheres that. But if I say, you've ruined my life, bitch, it says, types out, you've ruined my life, bitch. I was a kid.
Vince, the best day in your life was when Donna walked in. Oh, God. To a wall? I've done that. I did a door just the other day, man. She thought she could walk under the door. Well, I thought I could. You think I'm the risk taker and do crazy things. You guys are walking into doors. Well, I didn't mean to. It just kind of like, you know, I hit my foot and it was a screen door and it kind of bounced off my face. And I was like, oh, my God, that's not good. So, Jay, when did you make the move or was it kind of spontaneous when you went from swinger to hot wife?
Well, it's been, well, I was a hot wife a long time ago. And then we kind of transitioned away from that. Probably because I didn't, I'm not very, how can I say it? I'm not very outgoing and friendly, maybe. And so I don't go out and seek that. But lately, or more recently, I've been attracted to some men.
And it just was kind of a natural evolution and you know Bob was attracted to some women and so he has his thing and I have my thing and we have met other people that are in the same situation and it just works and you, we kind of have different times when we're available to do things, so it just kind of works for us now. It's kind of exciting because it's pretty new for me. But, yeah, so I'm enjoying it right now, and I don't know that I'll always be a hot wife, but right now I'm into it, so. I'll see be a hot wife, but right now I'm into it. So. Sure.
So what are the rules for you guys to establish a playmate for you? Um, we've had that discussion. Um, everybody. Bob sometimes wants to identify a playmate for me, and we'll meet at a bar. Okay. And my rule is I have to be able to talk to him for at least 10 minutes. He has to be able to hold a 10-minute conversation. Oh, absolutely. I want somebody I can have a connection with. If he can't hold a conversation for 10 minutes, he's off the island. He's off the island. Yeah. Can't just be a pretty face. No. He's got to be a little bit more upstairs. Yeah. And maybe a little bit downstairs, too.
Yeah, a little downstairs. Or, you know, a really good kisser or a really good, you know, so he... Make some mean pizza. Make some mean pizza. A healthy pizza, too, I might add. Very healthy. Oh, yeah. Vincent has to put a plug in for himself, you know, since he got there. I don't know. Why should I plug? Not that kind of plug. I want Vince, I want to be a hot wife with Vince. You are. If he's not. And you were about, what, an hour ago? For a couple hours. But you never know, will I be invited back? You're always invited back. Oh, always. That's not a problem.
But I think it's just an evolution in sexuality. And it's like, okay, I've been married a couple times, and two of my marriages were completely not swinger marriages. They were completely, well, on my part, they were completely monogamous. Oh, I see. Some others may not have been monogamous in those relationships. But my current and only ever again husband, who I've been married to for 21 years now. Oh, God. Same as us. Same as us. November 1st or 21st year? 21st year, yeah. I'm trying to calculate. Yeah, 21 years in July. Oh, wow.
And, you know, we started swinging, and then we started doing some BDSM. Not crazy stuff. And then we started having parties. And, you know, you meet people at some of these parties, and you're, like, attracted to them. And for the first time, I think, I was, was you know there was this guy at one of our house parties and I was attracted to him but never really had time to play with him and I myself think I'm not sexy desirable any of those things you're wrong that's far from the thank you thank you but you know I don't find myself I don't view myself that way Thank you. Thank you.
But, you know, I don't find myself, I don't view myself that way. So I couldn't imagine that this guy would want to be with me. Just was out of my imagination. But then I was invited to another party where he was going to be there, and I asked some mutual friends a little bit about him, and I made a conscious decision that I was going to initiate something with him. Ooh, bold move. For me, extremely bold. And it turned out quite okay. Oh, there you go. And so, you know, there it is. And so it's like, it'll be interesting to see if I do that again.
Now, Vince and I have been together before, so I don't know that I haven't initiated anything. But I did a little initiating with Vince through text. Oh, this time? Yeah. Yeah, we've played numerous times before. Yeah, numerous times. But initially, when we first met at that one house party that wasn't yours I did the pictures at that party I don't remember the name It was a long time ago Oh yeah Again we didn't know anybody there They reached out because of our profiles Like oh we're having a party Would you to come? And we'd love to have you shoot photos. I was like, okay.
But again, we went there with no intention of, you know, other than being nice and meeting people. That's where we met you and Bob. And then a few months later, you guys had invited us to one of your parties. And we came. We just observed. We just hung upstairs.
And we did not participate in the fun downstairs i remember that and then a little time had passed and you invited us back to another party and donna was a lot more intrigued yes at the time and obviously we've talked about how it's not my realm um but um but again uh there was never again i there was never, again, I tend to be, except on the air, I tend to be quiet and more reserved until I get to know people than I tell jokes. Then we can't shut you up. Yeah, it's terrible. Well, I am an introvert by nature.
So it took a couple times before you and I made any contact, call it sexually, before kissing and stuff. And then it was weird when we kissed the first time, it was one of those things like, let's go downstairs. I remember that. I remember that. Well, we did have to set up the electrical equipment for the podcast. No, no, that was a different. I know.
It a different time yeah um but yeah i i have some very wonderful memories of you know after vince got over his shyness of coming into the house and there was i can remember one party i was backed up against the wall before i could do anything and so so we just went downstairs. And it was like somebody has to start the fun. Yeah. Right? Yeah. I think that was at the time we were in the kitchen. And I just remember Jay just grabbing like Vince's hand and saying, we're going downstairs. And I was with Bob. That was a different part. Excuse me.
That's because Vince had been fingering my clit for about 20 minutes. I was too busy blowing Bob, so I don't know. I had come on I don't know how many times. Now the tree comes out. Now me taking him downstairs was not a big. Is she bragging or bitching? I don't know, but either way. No, I was talking about it and just getting wet sitting here remembering it. So I'm neither bragging or bitching. That's if you're getting wet, just thinking about it. Oh my goodness. So anyway.
Well, it seems like I either play with you first at the party Or you wind up being last And it's just like Well I'm not going anywhere No, I understand, but I want to play with you Well I mean, there are two women Outside of my wife, at the party I want to play with every time, if I can You know, again, Outside of my wife I'm not going to play with her At the party That's a party foul Party foul Yeah it is But Is you And Oh crap Brain fart Pam Oh yeah And you know that um was remembering name boy that's i'm sorry i had a name in my head but it wasn't pam and i knew it wasn't right yeah you know he just had two hours of sucking my clothes oh that's true too the brain isn't lost a few brain cells during that experience i don't know i did did you go into the zone close pretty close yeah i'd say i was Yeah.
I don't know. I did. Did you go into the zone? Close. Pretty close. Yeah. I'd say I was there. Yeah. But the first time I ever played with Pam was at the party we had for Donna for her birthday. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know? And, you know, Pam is a wonderful woman. And her husband, too. They're both great people. But Pam... You don't want to play with Tim? No. Not your type? I like him, but not that way. It's more of a professional relationship. But, you know, when we're doing that party, and I've seen it at other parties, Pam doesn't get the attention.
And again, she's kind of recluse, and she's not everyone's cup of tea. I'll put it that way. She's a larger woman. That doesn't matter to me. I go by the quality of the person. You cannot find a better person on the face of the earth. Yeah. I agree. So going on And Donna's being taken care of By multiple people Let's go back to the video She was standing there just watching And again I've seen her at parties Where she kind of is So I put the cameras on a tripod And I just walked over and I said Would you mind if I kiss you? And she goes, no, not at all.
She was completely like, where did that come from? And then so we started kissing, and of course my fingers wandered. I don't know how that happens. Next thing I know, she's laying on top of the massage table, and the thighs are over my ears. She was using the Lord's name in vain a few times. Oh, so it was a religious experience. Maybe for her. Well, I think there is a, I personally think there is a very close connection between sexuality and spirituality. Sure. I mean, I am not a highly religious person. I don't practice any particular religions.
If anything, I probably practice Buddhism, which is more of a philosophy than a religion. Yep. But, and it's about being present. And if you can't be present during sex, I mean, you are, at least for me, I can't speak for other people, but I am so present, you know, and I just love that feeling of being totally present because so much of the other part of my life, I'm not totally present or I have to fight to be present. Sure.
When I'm having a sexual experience I don't have to fight to be present I just am you want to be there but of course when you go into that other like um when I go into like another zone sometimes I'm not present I'm in my fantasy I'm in my my uh yeah sorry Vince is that we have a little monitor I'm trying to wheel around so I can see him. And sometimes I'm really not present. I'm just being absorbed into the sensation of whatever's going on. So maybe I'm really not quite there. Well, I like the idea of getting all those thoughts of everyday shit out of my head. Static.
Yeah, that's just making noise. And I am totally into my body. And that's where I want to be. Yeah, I agree. I get the sensation and wanting the sensation and stuff. But when I get to that next click of a zone that I call the subzone, I am not even in my fantasies. I am just in my body. Okay. Wow. I can see it. That takes the whole sexual realm of not just having an orgasm, but having an orgasm that you're in certain zones, like you said, the sub-zone. I get it. I get it.
Everybody's sensations are different, but, yeah, when you're on that level, it's almost like you're in an astral projection. It's almost like an out-of-body experience. Yeah, it is an out-of-body experience because your brain is not engaged in it. No, not at all. I don't know what my brain is doing. I mean, I really, and I don't know if this is good or bad, but I use sex to shut my brain down. I don't know. It makes sense. It does. It makes sense. Yeah, I can understand that. You're taking a hiatus from the everyday. I call it static.
All that crap that's in your head every day from work and worrying whether the bills are paid and all that crap. It's a lot static and i think um taking that little mental vacation while you're being pleasured by somebody or engaged in a sexual almost spiritual uh experience it does it kind of cleanses all that crap out of your brain and you can just go and enjoy life and actually just feel good and i think there there's also the possibility that when you do that, you realize that a lot of that noise is totally irrelevant. And you can just get rid of it. Yeah.
But the trick is getting to the point where you can go beyond that. Yes. And you can't do it with every sexual partner that you have. Oh, no. And I think that's where... Are we talking at the same time? The same team? The same team? That's a running joke, sorry. Yeah, when you have that connection where...
I don't want to say personality connection, The chemistry makes a difference Versus just someone you're having sex with I agree I can speak to some of the guys Donna shoots with There are some guys that we think are great And you know And not only does she have a remote Physical attraction to them But it's like like, they're a great guy, you know, where there's guys like, yeah, he's all right, you know, and, you know, he can, okay, he can fuck, but whatever. But it's just, and it comes through, you see it.
On my end, as a photographer, like I've said before, you know, like if someone's sick, I don't want to shoot you. Because you can see it, it comes out in the pictures, you know. And if Donna's with somebody who I know she's not having fun, it's not erotic to me. No. The same is today when you and I were together and when I'm with Donna and stuff like that. We have a connection. But then, too, I'm able to kind of get feedback from what I do. And I've been asked, how do you do that? It's just because I'm not doing the same thing. I'm not the guy who thinks you have to do the alphabet.
And I mix it up, and I found some little niches with you today that I hadn't found before it's like okay there's something she likes I think feedback is the breakfast of champions that is a quote from my loving husband feedback is the breakfast of champions and I am a very um I'm very sensitive to energies that come out of other people. That's the best way I can describe it. So, like, if I am pleasuring some man or woman, I'm not, you know, I'll go either way. If you're administering pleasure. Yeah.
It's like I need feedback from them because I am totally present to understand their energies and what pleases them. And so even if I am not the person being pleasured that I'm going into this zone, I'm also really focused on the physical feedback I get from whoever I'm with. Sure. You know, whether it's a noise, whether it's a movement, whether it's a sigh, whatever it is. I'm paying attention to all that stuff, so I am in my head in those situations. But subzone requires trust.
You can't go there and completely be out of your head and not cognitive, literally, unless you're with somebody that you know will not hurt you. And I'm not talking about BDSM. I'm just talking about, you know, you have to believe that their intention is pure and that they're there to pleasure you and that you can just let them go at it. And they'll get the feedback. You'll get the feedback if you do something that's not comfortable for me. That's where I was kind of going earlier when I asked about your rules. For us, we both have to have met them.
And generally, it's important that Donna and him play in front of me We'll be right back.
about your rules like for us we both have to have met them and generally it's important that donna and him play in front of me first first before they ever get to get one i want to make sure that she's like oh he's great nice guy whatever two i got to make sure like i said we have a no choke rule yeah i gotta make sure that trust i'm giving away or loaning whatever you want to call it um something very very valuable to me and i want to make sure it comes back with a good experience not a bad experience and i agree i think we have the same rules um i you know even if we just go to the off you know if if bob and i go and meet some guy at a bar at least he knows the person.
He's probably talked to them, you know, via mail or whatever, however. Text messages or whatever. Text messages or something. So he has some sense of what they're like, but until you actually meet somebody. And generally, we definitely have played as a group. You know, it might be three of us, could be four of us, could be. But we've had sex where everybody's been present before I will go out with that person by myself. Sure. And that's what I'm saying. You have to build trust before you go out. Yeah, it's a rapport kind of thing.
And I also have to know that their significant other is okay with it. Thank you. It's a poor kind of thing. And I also have to know that their significant other is okay with it. I'm not here to split up relationships or do anything like that. So I always remember when Bob and I were swingers and he was in Massachusetts, and I was living down here for work reasons. And he had a woman who came up to him and said, I want to fuck your lights out so bad I can hardly stand it. And he said, I want to fuck your lights out too.
Jay and I are swingers, so we're okay with that, but you have to tell your husband oh and she had that expression oh damn and she finally went and told her husband uh-oh what happened and he said go for it really yeah well and they knew us it wasn't like we were strangers okay so they knew, okay. So they knew us through a dog adoption. So they knew us. And so over time, the four of us started playing together. Oh, that's wonderful. I didn't expect that. I thought we were going to be like, oh, well, that's not going to happen. And we went on some ski trips together with large groups of people.
And Bob and I would be the newbies in this group. And people are saying i don't understand why the four of them are sharing a bedroom it's like you guys aren't very imaginative i guess ignorance is bliss well you know the cost of the rooms you know when it gets cold you know we were like last minute add-ons and we had to stay someplace And yada y, we were like last-minute add-ons, and we had to stay someplace, and yada. But we all shower together to save water. It's conservation at this point. We're green couples. Yes. You know? Yeah.
We're all, you know, getting one bed together just to, you know, and naked just to keep the body together. We don't have to run the heat as much. There you go. See, it's all about conservation. Don't make it ugly. And every once in a while you have to give physical therapy. Oh, yes. Especially if you've been doing something active. You could get a muscle cramp and you've got to help work that muscle out. Yeah. He could get a cramp in his cock. Well, Bill, Bob's not going to help him. So it's your job. I know. Hey, we both have medical backgrounds here. We know what we're supposed to do.
You guys are professionals, all right. We're like the little boxy twins, aren't we? I will go with that. As we sit here with our little innocent faces. With the horns coming through the head. Oh, come on. Oh, come on. I'm almost innocent. You're getting back to it. Yeah, okay. You're getting back to me. Shut up. I hate you. How many months do you have to go before you get your virginity back? I think it's years, dear. It never comes back. Come on. Once you break that plane, it's broken forever. You really think I'm serious about that. I know. I know you're not, but it doesn't grow back.
Why would you want her to be a virgin? Ooh, no. That's the worst thing. That whole Muslim thing, oh, you get 72 virgins. No, I want 72 whores. Whores, sluts. I want sluts. I want to have a good fucking time. Not like, oh, no, that hurts. What do I do? You pee out of that. Get away from me. I only said that the first time i did anal come on give me a break here you say it every time you do anal just to make the guy feel good oh yeah i do and she sits there like yeah that hurts jcm oh boy that really hurts yeah oh you're tearing me up just tearing me up. I've never said that. Like that. Today.
Today. There's a lot of things we haven't said today. Yeah. That's true. Yeah, that's 72 virgins. I think it's more punishment. That's hell. You have to teach them all. That's like saying it's 72 ex-wives. No. Someone nagging at you. I don't mean that. Well, but that whole religion thing, especially with some of the Middle Eastern religions, between cutting genitals and doing things that, I mean, I can remember being in Morocco and they were were still doing testing brides. Like, if they had sex and there was no blood, she was gone. Really? Oh, yeah. Off with the head.
You can break the hymen, though, just from horseback riding. Or so they say. Well, yeah. I mean, it's a thin membrane. It could get broken riding a bike. Well, you've got to be careful if you live in that part of Morocco. That's all I have to say. I'd be carrying a water balloon and stuff with blood up my snatch, huh? Ooh. Thank God we live in this country that it's not such a big deal. Thank goodness. Sex is a little more, you know, a little, not quite so taboo. In certain areas it is.
I'm glad that as part of the swinger community, I feel like we're in a bunch of people that are a lot more understanding. There's a lot more compassion. There's, you know, it's okay if you're different. It's okay if you have different needs and wants.
And that's why, like, you know, well, Vince and I, I like to dabble in the BDSM where I've said a thousand times he doesn't that's okay we have people that embrace it they embrace all these nuances and differences in different ways and everybody is you know I'm okay you're okay and it's all okay and it's it is okay it's fine it's fine that you're different because we're all human we're all different and what I find pleasurable and it's like food You may not like Like You know Olives That's my go to And Vince loves olives You don't like olives I hate olives Yeah she's weird isn't she Do you like love Do you like olives Yeah I love olives We just Had an appetizer Of these I'm with the olive lovers Hang on a second Excuse me Go ahead your olives all you want people we were we were at this bar and we had this appetizer and they were warm olives that were warmed in I think some some kind of duck fat or something like anyway and it and and they're all different kinds there were these littley, tiny olives that were smaller than my little fingertip.
And they were, like, so good. But they all had bits in it, so you had to be really careful. Yeah, no doubt. But sorry you don't like olives. I've tried. It's like, it is that you've tried all the different kinds. No. I've only tried the one that you put in your martinis, your dirty martinis. Yeah, Spanish olives. Whatever kind they are. When you come to our house, we'll give you a Calaveta olive. Oh, yeah. Oh, those are the big black ones? No, okay. Yeah. See, I like the salt. See, the ones I really love are the olive, the oil cured. Oh, those are black, too. Yeah.
And the, yeah, there's a couple different black ones. They're not as salty. Yeah, they're not as salty. I go back and forth, whether the oil cured or more salty than the Nishwa. It depends on who's making them. Yeah. I love olives. These are green, and they're very, really, really mild. The show's getting sexier all the time. Well, olives have holes in them that you can stick your tongue in. I know that. And, you know, you can, like, you know, you can use it as a lure to bring men in. If you can stick your tongue in an olive and just twirl it around, it can be very sexy. That is sexy.
For me, I could put his tongue in that hole whirl it around. Oh, there you go. That would be very sexy. See? You should see me swallow a hot dog then. Sweetie, I've seen you swallow more than a hot dog. It's more for a kielbasa. It's more like a... I was going to say kielbasa, but that might even be too small. Ring bologna. Summer sausage. They kicked her out of Hickory Farms. She has a restraining order from Hickory Farms. She can't film with the label still on. Oh, she's not allowed in there. They think she stole a few things.
They frisked her and they couldn't find it but the inventory showed there's two summer sausages missing and she was walking a little funny a little funny uh you know enough with the olives yeah well that's what i'm trying to express is like sex is very much like food and you're gonna like things you like and you're gonna like you know there are things you're not gonna like and you may never like them although i will try As long know, there are things you're not going to like, and you may never like them. Just as long as everyone's consenting, end of age. Yep, that's all I care about.
And that was a really interesting experience, because we were with a couple that has come to our parties and has not been at our parties for a while. And we had met up with them again.
and she said, I feel like if a guy comes to me and asks me to go play, then i am obligated to do that and i looked at her i said no you're not obligated to do anything yeah you know it's like not everybody is everybody's cup of tea um it may be how they approached you because there are some men that have no finesse whatsoever and it can be like okay wham bam thank you ma'am not my style but okay uh and you know it's like they just don't get it so i mean i've had parties that have people come up to me and say really strange things to me. And I go, no, I'm not doing that tonight.
And if I were going to do it, it wouldn't be with you. Things that Jay has never said to Vince. That's true. That's true because I've always been attracted to Vince. Oh, look at you, Vince. But the the interesting thing and don and i've talked about this actually off air is at the parties um again i tend to be a little more quiet and reserved and stuff and there has been a was we haven't been there in a while um some of the some of the women have gotten experience with me and then you see them sitting at the kitchen table with their hair all messed up and everything.
And the women who haven't been with me are like, what's wrong with them? What happened to you? And the women with their hair messed up are going like, oh, I can't talk anymore. My brain cells are no longer working. And then the one couple, I don't believe they've been to the party in a while. They're from Jersey. Like, I hadn't played with her. I wanted to play with her. And then, like, we were getting ready to leave, and she has freckles all over her. She was at my birthday party. Yes. Yes. A little short. Yep. You know who I mean. I can't take care. I know who you're talking about.
It starts an M Yeah Mandy Okay Michael and Mandy Yeah So we're getting ready to leave And I was like Yeah And you guys were You know Talking about some things with me And And she was just like Looking puzzled And then I went to Mike And I said Would it be okay If I ask your wife to spend time with me? And he goes, yeah, sure. And I went, I said, would you like to? And she's like, well, it's like, okay. And she's like, all right. And you guys were like, no, go. Everybody was like, go, go. Yeah, Pam is going. With a finger pointing, go. Go downstairs.
And I guess they don't expect what I deliver. Well, you are a bit of a mystery, Vince. You are a mysterious man. You're a conundrum. Conundrum is a good word. Conundrum is a good word. You are a mysterious man. Oh, I'm telling you. Yeah, there's several syllables in there. The thing I picked up from a few of the women is like, I never would have expected. Yeah, I don't know where you got... My thought process was, how did he learn how to fucking do that? You know that your early years of sexual proudness was probably non-existent. I mean, you've even told me we didn't date much, yada, yada.
So how did you learn the, I'll say, techniques or whatever? He says he just kind of goes with the flow and goes with the woman's response. And that's, like you said, feedback. That's so important. Yeah. Well, I've been told that I give a reasonably decent blowjob. Oh, I was going to say feedback. That I give a reasonably decent blowjob. Oh, no. I know better.
You know why I learned to give a great blowjob oh i was gonna say feedback i give a reasonably decent blowjob oh no i know better you know why i learned to give a great blowjob practice yeah but i i was such a geeky i don't i don't believe that oh i was awful and i was i i never felt like anybody would desire me or anybody would want me or anybody would find me sexy. And so in order to counter that, I learned how to give a great blowjob. I felt the same way, but I never sucked dick. No, but, I mean, it was really, I don't think it's a defense mechanism.
It was like, if I can give them a great blowjob, they'll want me. At least for that night. At least for that night. Yeah, see, I guess I've been blessed with, it was just something that just came natural. I mean, every woman I've been with that I've,'ve okay every woman i've been with i gave oral to right and every one of them like even the one girl who i've talked about on the show who was an engineer i worked with um after we broke up um she told me we went out to lunch like a year or so later and she was telling telling me, she says, yeah, he tried to give me oral once.
It was just a mess, and, you know, it wasn't pleasurable. The mattress got all wet. She goes, so I just told him, don't ever do that again. She goes, so you're the last guy who's ever given me oral. She says, and I don't think anyone before you could ever compete. I was like, well, thanks. I would say you're at the top of the list. Well. I appreciate that. I know you enjoy it, so that's half the thing. And I enjoy giving a good blowjob. I do. And I just enjoy the energy that comes off the guy when I'm giving a blowjob. Pleasing someone is very satisfied in any way.
Well, there's also things that come out of the guy. I like the response. The oohs and the ahs. Yeah, or just the... It's feedback. Feedback. It's all about feedback. And, you know, just respecting that feedback. And, you know, you might, I might, I mean, I use some techniques on guys, and I realize immediately that's not their thing. You know? So I'll change. I'll do something different. Yanking the balls. You don't want my fist in your ass? Why? Why? There was one video. It was with the one younger guy. I used to come here with Luke. There's millions of Lukes in the world. But we did a video.
I didn't know because I was blown. Luke, I'm your slut. Now you're just snorting. I just can't. I can't do a good James Earl Jones. Poor man has just left the earth. I know. Why not? Give him the respect he's due. Too soon. Too soon. I'm sorry. But I didn't know what was going on because I was blown. But in the video that you took, Vince, this is like going back a couple years, his head rolls back and he goes, you can see him go, oh. See, there's one of the pluses of video. Yes. You get to see things you don't get to see while you're doing sex. Where you see whoever it is.
He really liked that. Whoever you're giving it to. Their response. What's going on that you don't see? The eyes in the back of the head, the Donna's case, you know, someone reading a book. Watching TV. War and Peace, you know. Texting a friend. I can almost sense when their eyes are rolling back in their head. Sure. Yeah, you know. It's like, I don't necessarily, I mean, it'd be fun to see it. It'd be fun. It definitely is fun. But I, you know. They lift their hips up so they get their dick deeper into your mouth. That kind of thing. Or they grab your head. Or they just try to fart.
I can remember. Thanks, Vince. You just took the sexiness right out. Thank you. I can remember giving a blowjob to your number one fan. Oh, yes. He seemed to enjoy that immensely. Oh, he told me that was probably the best one he's ever had. There you go. See? You know? Practice does make perfect. Practice makes perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect. Bad practice doesn't. He's fan 1A. We also have a 1B. Ooh. Have I met 1B? No, 1B is up in New York somewhere. he's not part of a Swinger relationship He's living vicariously through us Can we do a little shout out to him?
Are we allowed to do that? Hey Wayne Hey Wayne, I'd love to meet you Wayne, take your vitamins Don and I could meet Wayne together Oh my god, his head would. I'd have to have him sign a release not keeping us medically responsible for his death. You know what? We'll make sure we have all this CPR going on here. Make sure we have EpiPens just in case. Yeah, two beautiful women make me go through sex. That's my bucket list right there. Pam and I did that one time to a friend of ours. Oh. To Bob. Not BW, but to Bob. Another Bob. The Bob who was the owner of the house where you took photos. Okay.
When we first met. Oh, okay. I don't remember who he looks like. Okay. And Pam and I double teamed him, and there was a moment he thought he was going to die. Sure. He recovered. He recovered. That's why I had to move. You know, so, yeah, I mean, but, you know, teamwork is dream work. Sure. Oh, another little slogan. There you go. I'm going to start getting t-shirts is dream work. Sure. Oh, another little slogan. There you go. I'm going to start getting T-shirts with that on. Yeah. I'm sure you guys are like high-fiving over him.
No, it's – That's – I mean, again, we're changing our subject here. That's okay. That's the interesting thing, and I talked about this. A lot of guys fantasize about two women. Oh, yeah. I've had it a few times. It's great. But as a man, you sit there and like, how do I keep from finishing so quickly? That's true. You know? That's true. It was like, you know, I had one beautiful woman on my dick, one on my face, and then like, or one sitting on my dick, and the other one licking my balls while I'm fucking the other one. It was like, it was hell. Oh, I can understand your dilemma.
It must be terrible i feel so i don't remember try it again i can't try it again i don't know how to respond to that i have no words i i don't either when i really think about it well your mouth was full yeah for a little bit yeah but no i mean so i mean the fantasy of having two women is great, and the experience is great, but the problem is, and I've talked about this before, the problem is, a man, you're trying, it's like, I want to make this last longer than five minutes. Five minutes, you're lucky me. Because you're getting stimulated everywhere. Oh, yeah.
It's, you know, you hit the turbo button. I mean, I could, you know, have get like a super small cock ring to really choke it down to make sure i don't pop too quick swallow i'm trying to swallow my drink here you say stuff like that i'm but i just remember the guy at one of the not our parties another party got his cock stuck and it was more of a cock cage than a cock ring. Oh. And Pam had to give him a blowjob so that he could get soft so he could get the damn thing off. Oh, she had to make him cum so he could get it off. Okay. Oh. I've always wondered that.
We had it as a Christmas tree decoration for a while. I'd like to see her Christmas trees. There wasn't fake snow on that thing. I just remember that one time I came into your living room and there was this big, giant rubber jodo with a mantle. And you're like, yeah, I think the cleaning lady saw that. Yeah, she did. Actually, she did. It was a dog toy. A dog toy. You know, cleaning, well, actually, it was probably the person who used to take care of the dog saw it, and she was this nice woman. And she was like, oh, dear God. God, yeah. I'm not touching that. I'm not touching that.
I do have questions sometimes. We have a different couple that does cleaning for us now, and we try to clean up the basement somewhat before they get there. Come on, the pictures on the wall just tell everything. I mean, come on. They're great pictures. They're great pictures. It's a very sketchy woman, and she's being restrained, suspended. She's suspended, yeah. It's a great picture. It's a great picture. I love that picture. You may not have seen the new piece. No, I might not have. Which is a piece of wire art. Oh, no.
And it's like at the bottom of the steps, and it's a woman giving a guy a blowjob. No, we haven't seen that one. No, we haven't seen that one. No, no hints here or what's going on. Well, as soon as you're well again, you can come to see that. Oh, I feel great. It's going to be fun. Or you can just come. Arrive. The next party we're having, there are so many people registered. I've threatened to get a room at the Marriott. And anybody who wants to see me, I'll give them my room number. They can text me. I can tell them if I'm available. I looked the other week and there was 19.
Yeah, 19 couples? There's 21. Oh, is there 21 now? Yeah, yeah. And it's like we're going crazy. I thought it maxed out at 12. It was supposed to max out at 15, and that's what the letter says that goes out, that there'll be 15, but we have 21. Yeah, and you know people are going to be. They don't all show up. They don't all show up. They won't all show up, but anything over about 10 starts freaking me out. Yeah, yeah, that's a lot of people.
Like Vince, people may find this hard to believe, but I am an introverted heart, and my home is my sanctuary, and inviting 40 people into my house is an invasion. 40 people having sex, potentially having sex. And there have been parties that I've been found sitting in my master closet with the light off. Oh, really? Because I just need to detox from all of this frenetic energy that's around me because I can't manage it. And so I have to go be by myself for a while. So if you're ever looking for me at a party and you can't find me anywhere, check the closet.
Do what bothers me at the parties is I don't like loud noises anymore. So up in your kitchen dining room area, especially a couple of the gentlemen talk real loud to begin with. Now everyone's trying to talk over that. And it's just like it's sensory overload for me. It's just like, okay. I mean, that's why half the times I've been downstairs sitting down there by myself. Where you find me, I'm just like, it's quieter. It's cooler, too. Well, it is. I sleep in a basement because I like cool temperatures. And, you know, I like a nice warm comforter and cool temperatures.
So if people go downstairs and they say, oh, it's so cold down here, I go, no, it's not. And it'll heat up in 10 minutes. So just, you know, relax. Or wear your socks. Wear your socks. We have a whole group of people who wear socks. Okay. Some of them are kind of, Joanne's socks can be kind of funny. Oh, she has like decorative socks, like funny socks? She has some that are like striped. Well, I guess her feet get cold. I mean. Yeah. Well, Bob keeps his socks. I mean, for the longest time when Bob and I got together, he always wore socks.
I mean, we're having sex so the socks aren't on and I'm thinking is he going to run away? So I know so then he stopped wearing his socks but he was uncomfortable. So I know he's not going to run away now so now he can wear socks. But I found, like, I was with somebody a couple weeks ago and I just said, oh, you wear your socks too. And if he runs away, it's no big deal because I'm not married to him. There's some people that Thank you. I met somebody a couple weeks ago, and I just said, oh, you wear your socks, too. And if he runs away, it's no big deal, because I'm not married to him.
There's some people that get really upset that people wear socks on while they're having sex. It's like, really? Is that what you're really worried about? Or are you doing a foot job? Generally, 99% of the time, if I take my shoes off, my socks come off. Well, you're an anti-sock person. Yeah, I'm just like barefoot. You're a barefoot person anyway. I'm eight toes to the wind, man. He even walks around this property barefoot, eight toes. I'm like, I wouldn't do that with 10 toes. You don't know what's out there. I walk around our yard a lot in barefoot.
Every once in a while I find a pile of something. Yeah, that's exactly that. But, you know, you just take a hose and wash it it off. I don't worry about that so much as they do. This is still construction zone. Please be careful with your feet. Yeah, nails and stuff like that. Nails, screws, you know, come on. I watch where I walk. I don't just walk aimlessly. Oh, dear me. Do I have to chain you up again? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm, I know. Could we? Yeah, I know. Do you have the chains? Ooh, actually, all kinds of things. He will not be into it. You would have never once restrained me.
I know, I couldn't. You would not be happy, and I would not do that to you. You never even asked. Oh, you wouldn't go for it. Come on. You haven't even blindfolded me. Would you like to be blindfolded? I would go for blindfolding before restraint. Yeah, it's a nice first step. Yeah. And there's lots of ways of restraining.
It doesn't have to be chains and ropes and all that kind of stuff if i was told okay wear this blindfold and which i would accept that challenge because of letting other senses take over and you said okay you're not to touch me or anything i would have no problem yeah you know i don't have to be restrained i'm not opposed to it but i wouldn't have to be it's my hands over here. I don't have to. We have a new blindfold we've never used. Remember that it was kind of a neoprene blindfold? But that was for you when we had sex. Yeah, I know. We could use it only.
Yeah, because I don't want to see you. I just want to bag you over your head. Come on. It's terrible. What are you frowning? If I can't pick on myself. If he doesn't, if he has a bag over his head, he can't use his tongue. Oh, true. I can cut a little hole out. Unknown comic. A different version of a glory hole. Yeah. That's the female glory hole. Female glory hole. That's a good point. I never thought about it. But I don't think the bag is, see, that would be like, to me, scary because Thank you.
hole it's a female glory hole that's a good point i never thought it that way but i don't think the bag is see that would be like to me scary because i don't know if i could breathe it's a paper bag it won't be that big but yeah i don't like you're claustrophobic oh i'm definitely claustrophobic when i see people wearing those um like the the bdsm uh what's what's that what's that stuff made the black oh like the imp, it had the face and it's like a hose. Not into that at all. No. Well, so the people getting those things and they vacuum seal them. They just have a straw in them. No.
I'm just saying, that's like. Oh, no. Oh, God, no. I'm not. No, absolutely not. I wouldn't be afraid of that, but I don't find anything arousing about it. Oh, it's definitely not arousing. I'm out of there. That's all about sensory deprivation. Yeah. And it's like I'm not there for sensory deprivation. No. Sorry. I want my senses. I want my senses to be exhilarated. I want extra exhilaration of the senses. I want more stimulation, not less. Yeah. So that wouldn't work for me. And we've had somebody bring one of those to our parties. Really? They should have brought a Sibian or something.
Oh, we've had those, too. We've had those, too. We don't own one, but we've had them brought to a party by somebody else. We've looked into maybe buying one. I was like, oh, gosh, you're a little pricey, aren't they? You should get the whole horse, call it. Yeah, exactly. My problem with the Sibian is if it's on the floor, I don't have really good range of motion to get the antler to use it. They need one that's up at, like, chair level. Modify a workhorse. Like on a horse. Yeah, workhorse. You know, that's like when guys want me to do cowgirl. Right. Because my niece, it's really hard to do.
So I'm looking for like, oh, maybe if they're sitting in a chair or something like that. Right. You know, so I'm looking for alternatives. So if anybody has any suggestions, send your suggestions in to... Info at hotwhitepodcast.com. That's one thing we do talk about a lot on the show since we're all like not spring chickens here. Mature. Yeah, we're more mature that as you age. Seasoned. Yeah, seasons. Yeah, okay. That's okay. Many seasons. But so much experience to draw from. It's just physical limitations. Like with my shoulder and I can't use my trapeze bar that I love so much.
So here's a quick little thing to pump up your ego potentially. So just in this room, the three of us, there's enough sexual experiences that most vanilla people would be jealous of. Yeah. Some, not all. Some would, absolutely. And the stories we could tell, like the experiences've had Would probably fill a lifetime That's kind of what the podcast is about But whatever I mean I can think of Some experiences It was like oh I want to try that I may not do it again But I want to try it It might be great be great. Yeah. Well, I mean, just as we talked about initial with the hot wife aspect.
How many? Or just being swingers. Yeah. We know quite a few people that it's like, oh, I'd love to be a swinger, but my wife has nothing to do with it. Yeah, that's usually the male saying that. Not so much the female, we've noticed. The female's like, nope. And he's like, oh, it'll be so hot. And she's like, nope, shut that right down. It's like, oh, but you're missing out on so much fun. And it also, we have said this a thousand times, Vince, and people that aren't in the swinger lifestyle will be like, well, aren't you afraid of your mate falling in love with somebody else? Ding.
Love is not sex. Sex is not love. You don't know, Vince. Stop it. It's not going to happen. I can barely tolerate you. Oh, stop it. All right. Falling in love with somebody else. Ding. Love is not sex. Sex is not love. You don't know, Vince. Stop it. It's not going to happen. I can barely tolerate you. Oh, stop it. Stop it. I can't smack you from all the way over here. Otherwise, I would. Again, again, you know, we may have to turn him over and spank his butt. Oh. And because he's being self-derogatory.
I don't have a butt's true we already talked about that we did talk about that earlier didn't we yeah he's he's like the but for all of us but it's not that big come on great but a great bite come on jesus that's a that's a but to hold on to there that's a but to it is. Nothing wrong with that. Use that to pick that sweet little pussy up to my face. Oh, there you go. Yeah. See, I was outside. I was walking. Once again, I'm going to make another chair soaking wet. All right, I have to put a drop cloth down. Yeah, I need a drop cloth or a diaper. One or the other. No drop cloth. Diapers, no.
No, absolutely not. Nothing sexy about diapers. Yeah, Vince sends me a text while I'm at work. And I'm going, fucking A. Gone. Yeah, but then what does she do? She sends me a video from her in the bathroom. I hear other women talking in the bathroom.
And I just this You know So it makes me feel good Well I bet you enjoy getting those When you're at work But here's the thing I do I love getting them But I also have an iWatch Oh yeah So I've been dealing A couple times I've dealt with customers I feel my watch move And I look up And here's a picture Of like your sweet pussy On my watch Like I quick put my hand down It's like It's like Do do do And I have to make sure My phone is turned upside down When I leave it at my desk Because if my boss is there He sees like What the hell He'd be jealous He'd just be jealous Oh I had to explain to him what it is.
And that's not against you. He wouldn't recognize it. That is a woman's vagina. That's a pussy. So, I don't, you know. Yeah, I don't think he's a sexually adventurous person. That's kind of, could be kind of sad. I mean, to each their own, of course, but. Well, he's got his own health issues. I don't think he can have sex. Well, that's a whole other can of worms. Well, that's sad, too. Well, he's 67, 68, let himself go. He's a heavy smoker. Walking 50 feet, he's. Oh, yeah.
When he goes and deals with customers, he has to lean over and everything it's like how are you guys doing today it's like oh my god yeah it's like you'd have to have donna and i have medical experience you know you know we always say at our parties we cover all bases we have doctors and lawyers yes yes and nurses uh psychologists uh so if you're having a mental breakdown or a physical one i keep a battery and jumper cables just in case we had somebody i'm not giving them mouth to mouth jumper cables don't work see you man well we can do the mouth to mouth no as heavy as he smokes oh Oh, yeah.
That would be kind of gross. Standing next to him, I'm like, I feel cancer growing. I mean, he walks in and stands next to me, and I blow smoke out my mouth. Depends what kind of smoke that is, whether it's good or not. Oh, it's not good. It's like cigarette nasty. Unfiltered cigarettes. Yeah. Not my cup of tea. Nope. And just to let you know, not that it means that much, but, you know, it was my day off today, one of my few. And it's like, I'd like to have a cigar or two on my day off, but because you were coming, I did not have a cigar. And he was lamenting about that earlier.
I said, if it wasn't Jay, I would do it. I would do it anyway, just really brush my teeth. I really appreciate that. Well, I like kissing you. I like kissing you. And I didn't think you would your pussy smell like cigar. Not that you would know, but... I can't get down there. Yeah, I can't get down there. I can't get down there. Did you notice we both went... I can't get down there. I never thought you'd be blowing smoke rings back at me. There are lots of things I look down and say, I can't get down there. Did you notice we both went, I can't get down there.
You should be blowing smoke rings back at me. There are lots of things I look down and say, I can't get down there anymore. I don't know that I ever could get down there, but, you know, it was. I used to wrap my one leg around my head. I can't do it. Yeah. I can remember doing that, but it's been a few years. I was still, what, 30, 35, 40? It keeps getting older there. 35, 40, 45, 50. Well, I think I was still dancing, so I still had to be, like, in my 40s. But, yeah, I can't. Before the hips went. Yeah, definitely before the hips went, sure. Was that because of the pole dance?
No, I just think I was just limber on one side. I gave myself a bloody nose. Oh, yeah, kicking. Because I was playing soccer, and I was goaltender at the time, and I kicked the ball so hard, my leg came up, and my knee hit me in the nose, and it gave me my one and only bloody nose. Yeah, I did. It's my boob. I came up, and I kicked myself so hard that it bruised my boob. I thought it was more interesting, your boob hit you in the face. No, no, my boob. That happens all the time. That could be dangerous. Mine aren't quite as tight as they used to be, maybe. They're still fine. They're great.
They're nice. Thank you. I have no complaint. I say, for having nursed two children, still okay. Still okay you're doing fine. Yeah, no, I'll be there to support you. He's got his hands ready. Or to do whatever. I'm a team player. I know. I will. You know what? My husband is- You need that pussy lick some more? I'm there for you. He's just that kind of guy. He's so selfless. I know. He sacrifices so much. He sacrifices for his art. And I go the extra mile, too. It's like, your asshole's right there. If it needs licking, I do it. So you get to wear the butt snorkeler ball cap.
Well, when it comes to women. I told you. Eating a man's ass is just not pretty.
I eat man's ass And I'm an ass eater Ass eater forever But a man On all fours Is just not attractive It was fun Okay He enjoyed it He really liked it He was a younger guy I'm just expressing my opinion He's very I guess he's like kind of inexperienced right there's a lot of things like I never 69 what they gotta change that he's what 22 24 I think he's close to 27 okay he's still he's a slightly heavyset guy nice guy probably didn't have a lot of action and you know his earlier he's very he's shy yeah a little on the shy side he's like i always wanted to have my ass eaten i'm like hmm it's the gag stop with the gagging and i was like okay i've never eaten a guy's ass but let's give it a shot here let's do it it was kind of fun he loved it i that's what i that's where that whole feedback thing came in i was you know i'm not not something i would actually dive into, but it was fine.
And he was really enjoying it and made it fun because I knew he was really enjoying it. And he showed he was enjoying it. And he's reaching back. He's playing with his balls. He's jerking off. You know, it was cool. It was good. And there's a video of it, so I can verify that. Oh, I can verify. I wake up screaming in the middle of the night. Stop it. Why, because Donna's trying to get to your ass or what? Is that what? No, he's like, no, my ass. No, that's not my thing. But he got me this baseball cap that says butt snorkeler on it.
I can't wear it anywhere because it would just create too many problems. Yeah, like, what does that mean? Yeah, exactly. His daughter would come home, butt snorkeling. What does that mean? You know what I mean? And there's no good explanation. No, it has a snorkel and butt cheeks. It has ass cheeks. And you see the goggles over top of the ass with a snorkel. A snorkel. But it's kind of all grayed out, so it's not like in your face you can tell what it is. It's kind of like, what is that? Maybe it isn't this. Maybe it's like a wave. It's like, oh, my God.
But, you know, sometimes you just have to do different things to give some other people pleasure that you might be out of your comfort zone with. Sure. Again, that just like hearing him gag I just think Ass eating and he's like A lot of guys like their assholes Played with There's a lot of guys that do Yeah Hey come on you said you had the strongest orgasm when your ex-wife shoved that little vibrator up your... There's the hat. Yeah, there's the hat. Mine just doesn't have pink. Mine isn't as bright either. Well, there's different ones. Mine's much more monotone. There's your choice of hats.
Yeah, mine's much more monotone. It's not so like in your face, but it's gray. It's all gray, black and gray. Jeez, that one's pretty. How come mine's not pretty? doesn't matter you're not wearing it that's true i could it'd be a great painting hat nobody but on that particular design you can't tell if it's a guy or like you know no it's just a but it's sort of agnostic yeah yeah it's you can't i mean it's round so it's definitely a it's definitely a butt, but it could be a wave. It could be just snorkeling, but you've got this big word, butt. Yeah, the butt part.
If it didn't have the butt part. If it's a snorkeler or, you know, butt was me. The butt's what pulls you into it. Yeah, it's like butt. No pun intended. Butt snorkeler. Okay, that's definitely ass-eating. All right, we're about an hour and 15 minutes. Oh, my God. Okay, maybe we should wrap this up. Hey, so don't forget to check out Fifty Shades of Pleasure magazine. The newest one just popped out the other day, so make sure you check that out. This one is more fetish-oriented. Oh, look at that. Yeah. So make sure you check it out and check out Donna's stuff. At hotwifedonnalyn.com.
It is a All My Links page. It has links to all the platforms I'm on and including the magazine as well as a podcast. Of course, that we're on right now. Oh, there it is. Who's that slut over there with the chains on? Oh, that's me. Never mind. Very nice. The kink community. Find your tribe. Wow. Voyeurism and exhibitionism. Oh, we've talked about that before. Yeah, we have. Cross-dressing and gender expression. Okay. Erotic asphyxiation. Oh, yeah. No. See that? It's just an article. Yeah. Collared Conversations. It's the one that Bob writes. Oh, there you go.
That's when Bob writes And then the furry fetishism People want to dress up like furries Yeah, but these girls look hot Yeah, I know They're AI photos I couldn't find any copyright free photos Out there of people dressing up like that So I went into AI and had to generate some photos. Wow. They look, they're really hot. Yeah. You're going to get people turned on to AI for sexual photos. I think it's already happened to me before. Oh, yeah. I think so, too. See, the psychology of fetishes. Oh. Understanding what turns us on. So then there's a letter from the editor. It's a slut.
A little slut that she is. Anyway. All right. All right. Wrap this up. It's a slut. A little slut that she is. Anyway. All right. All right. So it's an hour and 15. Okay. So I think we covered a lot of topics. I want to thank Jay for coming on. Yeah, thanks. Thank you, Jay. Oh, it was fun. Thanks, Jay, for coming on my face. Multiple times. And again. It's never just once, Vince. Come on, Vince. You know, it's not just once. And again. And again. Did you count this time? Yeah, Come on, Vince. You know, it's not just once. And a can. And a can. Did you count this time? Yeah, you couldn't.
It's hard to count. No one asked you to count. You know what? Counting would require me to be in my head. And you couldn't, yeah. I'm not buying one of those little church things. Oh, that was so funny. That was a-ch-ch-ch maybe five. I don't know how many stars there are. Five. Okay, well, then you'll get five. I appreciate that. Or five plus. Tell your friends. Tell your friends. I don't know. I don't know how much I want to share you. Ooh, listen to that up. I'm okay with that, too. You know, there could be a party that you're at, and you don't play with me.
You don't get a chance to get around. I might have to keep someone from going in the closet. Oh. Or join me there. You guys could hide out there. We killed two hours today with that. Oh, my goodness. You would help me relax. I'd do my damnedest. She'd walk out of the closet, her hair all messed up. One shoe on, one shoe off. How can you tell when my hair's messed up? That's true.
It probably more curly or less curly depends sometimes depends who i'm with sometimes it comes out more curly and some guys it comes out less curly because they like to oh yeah they grab your hair well they can't there's a rule i have a rule you can't really pull my hair oh she i love that oh see i can't stand it because it hurts it is i mean i can you know somebody can flog me they can do a lot of things to me yeah but pulling my hair is a pain that will turn me off sexually now good to know that's my nipples yeah his is nipples my nipples are always sore so you touch my nipples i it's just like it's over yeah yeah now but if somebody like grabs my head and has a handful of hair okay you know to like kiss me or something like that or or if they grab my hair to help me give them a blow job um that's different that's that's different but it's just not and then it gets a little straighter guiding you not pulling yes oh i see you know and i know some women and donna really likes her hair oh man when bob was he was fucking me anally that that threesome that we're in and he grabbed but you have to get like close to the root that's when it feels really good it's like a massage oh my god i came so hard Bob did to me the other day?
I was on the spanking bench, and he started using a cane on the bottom of my feet. Oh. I thought, I said, I understand completely. I don't know about the cane on my feet, but the flogging. Holy fuck. Well, he wasn't, like, whacking it. Right. But he was just sort of tapping it. Oh, yeah. And it was like, I get it. I totally get it. Oh, my God. That was, like, the weirdest experience because I'm laying there and he started flogging my feet. And I just went from zero to 100. And I was like, oh, my God. I went into this, like, weird primitive orgasm, celestial space. I don't know.
I don't know how to explain it. I think that's called subspace, sweetie. Well, I think that's where I was. But it's very primal. I understand that. Very primal. Very primal. When I have orgasms with Vince, they're so deep. They're, like, primal. I could hear you guys. I could hear you groaning when I was out walking the dog. I blew the window. I'm like, oh, she's having a good time. It's like, ugh, ugh. I was like, wow. I do what I can. Holy. And he does it really, really well. Oh, I feel like the proud mom. Thank you. That just got disgusting when you threw mom in there. I know.
It's like the proud, well, spouse, partner, partner. Proud hot wife. It's like, oh, it's my husband. It's so wonderful. Can you tell we like each other? Yeah, just a little. I hope so. Otherwise, it wouldn't be any fun. Yeah. If it's not fun, don't want to do it. Exactly. Exactly. All right. Let's wrap this bad boy up. All right. So I want to thank everyone. I want to thank Jay. Yeah. Thank you, Jay. And I think we need to have Jay on more often. I think so, too. That was fun. Yeah. Yeah. So next time, you know, I'll have to make sure she's going to wear a skirt in front of me.
She shouldn't be wearing panties. Oh. Yeah, see? Aw. I know. I've had an obstructed view. It's a thong. It's still blocking the view. I thought you wouldn't want some challenge. Oh, come on. There's more to the imagination there. It comes to chew through. Edible panties are not what they're cut out to be. One of the hottest experiences I ever had in my entire life. Oh, right. Then get closer. It's very wedding in here. One of the hottest experiences I've ever had in my entire life was when I was restrained on a bed, but Bob forgot to take my panties off.
So he took a large, yeah, he took, and they were nice panties. Oh, no. So he took a large knife and just cut them off I just let go It was like Oh my god He's going to cut me isn't he No I wasn't afraid of that at all I'd definitely be afraid of that I'm going to die tonight He's just going to cut me and that's it No it didn't go there it didn't go there. Yeah, he's thinking about it. Shut up, man. So you don't let Vince have any knives in his bedside table? No, no sharp objects. But there's about four guns. What? I said sharp objects. There's about four knives in there, too. Oh, okay.
Well, I guess they didn't do a very good job of sweeping the room. I look forward to a home invasion. We have enough guns in our house now that we could manage. We have two assault shotguns. We have a regular shotgun and three pistols. I won't get into what I have. I know, but I haven't shot any of them.
So I don't know what's going to happen I guess I'll just take it with your shoulder be careful with the shotguns fortunately it's my left shoulder and I'm right handed so I don't think I think I'm okay I don't know what caliber they are but whatever is this part of the hot wife podcast be careful with your guns safety first safety for everyone we decided since we do have grandchildren Thank you. Is this part of the Hot Wife podcast? Be careful with your guns. Be careful. Safety first. Safety for everybody.
Well, we decided since we do have grandchildren now, and they come to the house that we needed to get them into a place that can be locked up. Sure. Yeah, that's really. Yeah, you gotta be responsible. I don't have kids or grandkids, so I have kids, but they're adults now, so they're not kids. But I've taught my daughters how to shoot, so. I know. I have to go to the range so I can actually. Right. Thank you. So I have kids, but they're adults now, so they're not kids. But I've taught my daughters how to shoot. I know. I have to go to the range so I can actually. Right.
I used to shoot, but I haven't shot in years. You shot some of my mouth there. Several times, I believe. Yeah. You did. I think she hit it, the bullseye. Oh, yeah, she did. Well, no, he hit the bullseye. Oh! All right. He honed. it was like giving off little signals and he honed right in he's like one of those heat-seeking missiles yes exactly hero night if you keep this up so okay thanks everyone have a good night everyone have a great night
