From Shame to Pride: The Evolution of Masturbation in Modern Society

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Speaker1: Welcome to the Hot Wife Podcast, where we dive into discussions about relationships, intimacy, and everything in between. Before we begin, we want to make it clear that the views expressed on this podcast are solely those of the host and guests, and should be taken as opinions, not professional or medical advice. Additionally, we remind all listeners that this podcast is intended for adults over the age of 18. Unauthorized rebroadcast of this show is strictly prohibited without the written permission of the owners of Hot Wife Podcast. Now, let's heat things up. Hello, everybody. This is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot White Podcast. Wow, there's a little cheeriness there. Oh, was it? Sounded it. Oh. I know different, but yeah. It's okay. I like being a little cheery. As you should, as you should. It's a fun show, and I get to do it with my wonderful husband. See, I slipped that in right there. Sneaky. Yeah. Winter, the grayness. I know. Everything's gray. It's going to be cold, windy. I know, I know. Thanksgiving. Next week? Or should I say this week? It'll be this week, yeah. Already, hard to believe. Yeah, yeah. You're going to be stuffed like a bird, are you? If I'm lucky enough, yes. So, tonight's topic, I don't know how I thought of it while I was doing dishes, but it came to me. What was the title? When does masturbation stop being embarrassing? Yeah. Like you're in the kitchen and you're doing dishes and you're like, I had this concept for a show. Yeah. Well, yeah, I was thinking about masturbation. No. Of course you were. I was thinking, again, I've said it, I think, in the past that, you know, like when you were in high school or, you know, when you first discovered masturbation, you didn't dare admit it. I was just thinking that. You know, it's embarrassing, man. Someone says, hey man, do you master? Oh, no. Oh, no, I never touch myself. My God, that's, you know, you could go crazy with that or blindness. But at a certain age, and I don't know what that age is, it was like all of a sudden you're like, I know like once you get married, it's just like, you know, married guys like, yeah, you're not getting much either. No, no, I rubbed one out this morning. It's like, you know, but I actually think somewhere like, I'm going to say 25, 26, I guess it stopped. It might be earlier than that. Well, for me. For me, yeah. Kids today, you know, with social media and everything. Yeah. Now, for me, it was the age of ridicule, I would have said, would have been more like junior high, like ninth grade. Yeah. You know. Yeah, 14, 15, yeah. 15, yeah, something like that. Yeah, when you first discover masturbation. Right. And then you don't admit it. No. I did not admit it at any way, shape, or form. What age do you think you first masturbated? I was probably, geez, 16, 17. Okay. I didn't get much out of it, though. I didn't know what I was doing. It really wasn't that. But you kept at it until you got something out of it. You know, sometimes you just have to do that. Persistence. It's, you know. Well, you're still learning your body. Things aren't, you know, it's like, oh, I thought this would feel better. And it, you know, it was okay. But it wasn't, you know. Did you make yourself cum or did you just masturbate? No, I just masturbated. Until I got toys and then like some decent toys, that was a game changer for me. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's the whole thing with masturbation. You have to, because it's something I think we all start without any instruction. That's for sure. You know, at least when you're having sex with someone. Right. You can kind of get some guidance. Hopefully. You know, I mean, you know, it's like repairing an engine. If you've never done it, it's like, yep, that's an engine. And here are my tools. And I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I have no idea what I'm doing. Does this go here? I don't know. That's stuck. I don't know. I don't think this is such a good idea. Am I supposed to turn this nut here? So it's like, I don't know. And okay, do you remember? Do you remember? I just said remember. Do you remember your first orgasm? No. No, I don't remember. I do. And it was kind of freaky. It's like, what the fuck's this feeling? What the fuck? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I guess for a guy, it's much more dramatic. Well, I think it could be dramatic for anybody. I mean, I didn't know what to expect. I don't usually have stuff squirting out of me. Okay, good point. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Oh, my God, there's all this stuff squirting. Am I going to die? Yeah, it's like, well, when I was younger, I thought you peed inside of a girl to get her pregnant. Right, right. I mean, you didn't know. I mean. No, I didn't. You were close. Not one of those things. Well, I was kind of in the ballpark. Yeah, in the ballpark, but you know. Yeah, there's nobody, like your dad didn't sit down and go, okay, son, you're going to grab your cock one day. Oh, no, that's not a conversation. A conversation that never happened. Yeah, yeah, it's more like you grab your cock, you're going to go blind. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I just remember that, like, that, you know, the same feeling I have when I have an orgasm now, but I didn't know what it And then you have this ejaculate coming out, and you're like, what the fuck? Am I going to die? Is that supposed to look like that? My insides are coming out through my wiener. Where the hell does that come from? You know? Yeah. Then you're like, I should try that again. Yeah. That's why all those, I guess looking back, all the dirty books were like the National Geographic. I'm not even talking about, you know, like men's magazines, you know. I'm just talking about just National Geographic, all the nude women in there were like a source of porn back in those days. Well, when you were masturbating when you were younger, what did you masturbate to, if anything? Probably to a boyfriend or a guy that I can. Just thought processes. Just thought processes. But like I said, it wasn't very developed yet. It wasn't. Okay. Yeah, see, most young men, like, I can speak for this area we live in, outside the Philadelphia area, it always seemed either somebody had access to, like, their dad or older brother's porn collection, or you would find in the woods. In the woods, yep. There was always porn in the woods. Yep. And if you grew up in a city, I don't know if there's a city version of that, like, in this empty lot or what, you know, but there was always You almost wanted to go treasure hunting in the woods for porn. Yeah, somebody would stash some magazines under a bush. Wee's and penthouse. Yeah, yeah, all those things. Yeah, they would bury them in a box or something under a tree to keep them somewhat dry. It's just like, why are they putting them here? Because they're not allowed to have them in their bedroom, I guess. And then, obviously, the place where all boys store their porn mags? Under the bed. Under the mattress, yeah. Oh, under the mattress or under the bed? Well, we're the one, but I always did under the mattress. And of course, my mom would all of a sudden be missing. Mom's like, I made your bed. And you're like, oh boy. So did you get smarter and start making your bed all the time so she wouldn't do it? No, I wasn't making it. She would change the sheets. Oh, change the sheets. Oh, boo. Well, then I just moved them from there and put them someplace else. Yeah, there's always somebody in the neighborhood who's like, my dad's got a stash of, you know, or, you know, Hustler or, you know, Penthouse or whatever it is. It's like, oh, we're going over to his house and we're going to sit in the garage and we're going to drink Coke and Pepsi. You'd formulate some plan to take one of the ones from the bottom of the pile and convince his dad would not know it's missing. Right, right. What did we know? Dad had them all counted and categorized. Memorized. You know, but then the VHS tape came out. Oh yeah. You know, and then you, you know, if you could find somehow, somehow score porn tape. Right. Next thing, best thing was finding a movie that had nudity in it. Yep. Yep. Side boob was always good. Well, you know, you had the, the movies that always had the, the B movies that had, you know, the girl who runs in front of the screen topples, ah, and runs off. It's like, oh, that was hot. You know? Yeah. Well, back in those days, probably before VHS, they had the, the real to reels. It was a pain in the ass to watch a porn. You couldn't do it quietly. My dad had one. My dad had one on the reel. Was that 8mm back then, I guess? I know definitely, yes, some were 8mm. Yeah, so I remember sneaking up into our attic, you know, because you could, like, you couldn't stand, but you could, like, crawl. Right. Not, like, I mean, like, on your knees, but upright. Right. And I remember projecting it onto the one side of the attic and watching it. It was weird. It was like a 1970s artistic porn. I forgot what it was called. It was just like this girl in a field. She masturbates and it was just like, huh? I think I watched it that once and that was like, eh. I think I watched it, oh, I don't know, 3,500 times. I stopped counting after 62. It really wasn't that good. But I had to keep watching and make sure. I was bored. I had time to fill. It was more cumbersome to watch porn back in those days. Hooking up the reel to reel. I was dreading if it would somehow break and burn. Oh, yeah. That could happen. The light would become too harsh. If somehow it got hung up and stopped in front of the light. It could burn the cellulose or cellulite. Cellulose. She wasn't fat. Oh, that's good. Yeah, so that was a real problem. BHS was a step in the right direction. You could just put it into a, you know. Yeah, but kids today have a different, I mean, now they have to worry about, you know, again, parents, like if they have pictures of themselves or videos or whatever, their kid's finding it. Not that the kid's going to masturbate to it, I hope. Right. But, you know, it's like a different world. I mean, back then we had Polaroids. Oh, yeah, Polaroids, yeah. Yeah, I remember my ex-wife found Polaroids. Of her mom in lingerie. Oh, really? Yeah. Never showed me, never asked to see them. There you go. But she told me about it. She was scarred. Well, you know, even your parents are sexual beings. They kind of have to be, right? Well, or you wouldn't be here. Oh, exactly. Yeah, but we all want to not think of our parents doing the nasty. No, I just, I can't picture that. I don't think. I mean, can you picture, okay. No, I'd rather not picture. But the thought of your mom and dad being swingers. No way. And your mom going to a house party and doing the things you do. Nope. I'm just saying. Not even close. Nope. Nope. Well, that's what you would think. You don't know. I don't know. That's right. I don't know. Yeah. They could have been like crazy wild swingers, but I doubt it. No. I doubt it. No, I doubt it. I never met your mom, but your dad is so fucking, was so fucking stoic. Oh, yeah. He's not swinging on anything. I don't think he'd even want to go and be social. Probably not. Yeah, my dad would just go and tell everybody how great he is. My mom would just be cussing him out in a tie and telling him they're all weird. Put your fucking clothes on. Probably. I don't know. Yeah. Well, my mom told us the only man she'd ever been with was my father. Wow. It's probably true for my mom, but I don't know that for a fact. You met, dated, and married your significant other. Yeah. But it is funny now how I think times have something to do with it, but now it's like, especially in the swinger world with masturbation, you sit there, and you'll see a couple playing, and then there'll be one or two guys standing around jerking off to it. It's like, okay. I mean, you don't think twice about it in the swinger world, but As long as they clean up after themselves. Well, I didn't say they finish. I mean, maybe if they get close to finishing, maybe someone helps them at that point. I don't stand around and watch them. Oh, you're taking notes. Come on. I set the camera up and walk away. I respect. Come on. You set the camera up. You have done that. True. No, I haven't done that. Well, no, for me. Oh, of you. Of you. Yeah, me. Sure. Now, is that something, if you're messing with somebody and you see someone jerking off to the side watching, Is that arousal for you? Yeah, that's actually pretty cool. I like that. I don't have a problem with that. Let's them know that what we're doing is arousing to them. Or they want to be next. Or they want to be next or join in. Or maybe they're actually looking at the guy and they're just going to push him off to the side. I don't know. Oh, look at his hairy ass going up and down. I gotta have me that hairy ass. Okay. It's disgusting. He's touching a woman. All right. Tell me how you really feel. I don't feel anything about that. Yeah, but no, and I do think there has been an evolution, obviously, in sexual prowess or whatever you want to call it, where all of a sudden masturbating or admitting you masturbate. Oh, it's like nothing. I've had guys, like, when I'm chatting with them on the sites where I post all my stuff, my content at hotwife.com, if you're listening shameless plug uh but you know i'll be chatting with them and they're like oh man i saw one of your videos and i just had to jerk off to it do you want to see it's like sure why not i get so many dick pics it's not even funny well there's a big thing too i've seen on the internet where guys will print out a picture of a girl right there'll be a celebrity or and they come on the picture. It's like a tribute. It's a tribute. Okay, if you want to say that. Okay. Well, yeah. I guess. Since I can't be with you, I'll think of you. I'll splatter my jizz all over your picture. It's a type of tribute. Well, I mean, granted, they'd rather do it to you. Yeah, but it's still a big fetish. It's some kind of a, god damn, what was it called? It had the word tribute in it. And I remember guys, they would, I'm going to explain this the right way. They actually took a picture or a video of them jerking off to on my picture and then sent that to me. So they took a video of themselves jerking off to my picture or I think one was actually on a laptop, which I didn't think that was such a good idea to jerk on your laptop. Yeah, I know. And I was like, you know, that could, uh, It might not go well for you. Explain that to the geek squad. My keyboard's sticky. These keys don't work anymore. They're all stuck down. I can't figure out what's going on with them. Yeah, that could be. And while you're there, the webcam's kind of foggy. Kind of foggy. I don't know what's going on with it. But yeah, I've had guys send me their tributes to me. splattered with their cum. Okay. So that's what that's about, I guess. It was fun. It was very alluring. It was very cool. I didn't have a problem with it, obviously. It's meant to be a compliment. Whether you take it as that is another question. Yeah. I mean, it'd probably be more fun if they actually splattered it on me, but it's a nice load. Well, do you always see what these guys look like? I don't always see them. Yeah, maybe sometimes it's better. Yeah, you're probably right. But the cum load looked very good. Well, that's good. That's right. You know, all I see is like from the belly buttoned down. It's like, oh, that could be interesting. You don't know what it's attached to. Yeah, the mystery keeps it sexy. Yeah, the mystery does keep it sexy. I mean, that's what you say, why you keep the lights off when we have sex. The mystery. I like that mystery. I find it very alluring. Yeah, I saw you once naked. I don't want to see anything. Oh, shut up. Let me pretend it's somebody else. Let me put a bag over my head so I don't have to see anything. She had to moan with her hands. That's lost on the podcast. Yeah, it does get lost on the podcast, honey. Sorry about that. That's all right. But yeah, nowadays, like I said, I've been in a cigar shop, and a couple guys, you know, you think these big, tough guys, you know, it's either clear or blue. I was like, yeah, man, the other night, it's been like a week since my wife gave me, I rubbed one out to, It's great, man. There's a visual I did not need. But then another guy's like, yeah, man, that fucking show was so... I was watching the same show you watched. Man, that girl was so hot, I had to go in the bathroom and rub one out. I'm like, really? It's crazy. It's like... Just from watching a TV show? I guess they don't get much. Depends what they're watching. I mean, again, I'm saying TV show being generic. Not like they're watching Barney or something. Please, no. on whichever program, streaming program or whatever. Yeah, I don't even know. No, that makes sense. That does make sense. I mean, nowadays, though, there's all kinds of videos of women, especially squirters, masturbating until they squirt. I mean, come on. I won't say it's a dime a dozen, but I'll say it's very commonplace. Heck, we even knew that one friend of ours, she masturbated until, She squirted and she's the one that came like a bucket, a bucket load of female cum, whatever you would call that. I don't even know. Delicious. It was. Yes, it was. But yeah, that was pretty interesting. Yeah, that's still very hot to me. Not in necessity, but still really hot. Yeah, it's still super really hot. I mean, the best thing a woman can do, and you do it, is like, not you try to, it just happens, but when they're convulsing and they make noise. When women, or men, I guess. I guess. You've said about this where you don't even know they're going to come. And you see this little ugh. It's like, oh, come on. Now you've got to announce it. You've got to fucking let them know. Your partner wants to be a part of it. Don't just freaking have your orgasm and not invite the other person to be a part of it. Come on. How greedy. Sure. Don't do that. That's selfish. It's kind of, it also, I think, stimulates your partner. To want to do more. Yeah, I'm doing it, man. So then it kicks it up a notch. Yeah, goddamn right. Yeah, yeah. You gotta, you know, I mean, you don't have to yell to wake the neighbors up, but, you know. Yeah, we've known people like that. Yeah, wake the neighborhood the fuck up, not just the neighbors. Like a police kid, and I thought there was a murder going on. Yeah, that's true. But, yeah, just a little heads up, like, hey, you know, I feel so good, I'm gonna come. Just tell me you're gonna come. But that little, like, you know, guys, that little a little grunt, you know, and that's it. It's like, what happened? What happened there? And, you know, again, if you're with somebody who definitely doesn't want you to come in their mouth. Right. Then be honest, man. Just sit there. I'll tell you. They're like, I'm going to come soon. That way they can, you know, adjust so you're not offending somebody. Right, right. I agree. You know, and if they're on board with you coming in their mouth or whatever, tell them, still, I'm going to fucking come. So, you know, like, you sometimes, Sometimes you want it in your mouth. Sometimes you want it on your face or your chest or whatever. I like kind of watching it to pump out, but I want to see it splatter on a body part. If I can watch it splatter on my chest or my belly or something, that's pretty hot too. You ought to use the word stomach. What do I say, belly? Belly kind of implies fat. Not necessarily. My tummy, my belly, my stomach, my ripped abs. Now we're getting ridiculous. Took a little too far, didn't you? Probably, yeah. There's a line. And I'm over it. Yep. A lot of guys, especially there's, we have a couple guys that's all they do is jerk off. They don't, they have sex with me, but that's not how they come. Yeah, well, there's one guy we've talked about. Yeah, he has to jerk off. That's the only way he can come. That's the only way, I think. We've also met guys that can only come in doggy style. Yeah. And there's guys who are going to come in missionary. Yeah, that's true too. I can only come in February. Well, it looks like you got a ways to go then. I'm building it up. Watch out. Come February, I'm going to take your head. Clean off. Clean off. Yeah, I mean, every guy is different, but the ones that actually jerk off, they seem to have a lot of control as to when, and how they come. I guess. Yeah, it could be that way. I know with the one guy that all he does is jerk off, he'll tell me, you know, back up more. No, more. Yeah, I'm going for a 50-yard field goal here. Yeah, I'm going for a field goal. Back up, back up. You're too close, you'll take your eye out. And then he'll even be, he'll have enough, What's the word I'm looking for? Projection? Well, that too. But no, he'll have enough mindset to be like, okay, where do you want me to come? And that won't disturb his orgasm. Now some guys, they've got to concentrate on it. Maybe. Do you think the reason he has to jerk off is, one, he likes to see himself come? That's very possible. I mean, like, you know. It is very erotic. For me, it doesn't matter whether it's internal. Yeah, it doesn't matter. But for him, since that's the only way he comes and all of his orgasms are so much volume and distance that maybe seeing it is very exciting for him too. It certainly is fun to watch. It's astounding, yes. It's astounding. Like I have that one video, he's jerking off and I'm, I'm on my knees, I'm leaning back, and he's jerking off, and his cum shot in the air like 18 inches. That's on the bed. Now, he can go distance if he's for facials and stuff, but it's like a splatter off. We have to call local airports and put up a low aircraft warning. Yeah, something like that. Otherwise, some plane that's flying overhead is going to get an FAA. You're going to get a cum load on their windshield, you know? Oh, some bird shit on my windshield. Yeah, that's what it was. But it came up from the ground, not from the sky down. So I don't know how that's going to happen. Bird was constipated. But, yeah, no, I mean, yeah, that's how I would guess with him it is. It's just a matter he enjoys seeing the load be delivered. Yeah, it could be a multitude of things, but I do think that's... Also, it could be a mental thing where he doesn't want to get, you know, He's afraid of getting a girl pregnant, so he figures he jerks off. Yeah, he probably has done that for quite a long time. If he can pull out and jerk off on a woman, maybe less of a chance of getting her pregnant. I can see that. It's not fail-safe, but there's a better chance of not. Well, it just might be that mindset of, I got to pull out, I got to pull out. Then now it's just so ingrained in him that jerking off is the only way he can really come. It makes for very interesting visuals, I can say that. Sure, sure. But yeah, I've got to be careful how I word this. Yeah, I'm sure. Well, you know, again, like we talked about when we were younger, we didn't dare admit it or anything else. No. I mean, I have no idea what the younger generation feels about that subject now, and I don't want to make it sound like I want to go find out. No. But, you know, I mean, they're saying, You know, like oral sex is a lot more popular now amongst juveniles. 13, 14. Oh, young, young. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. They're saying it's nothing for where they used to be. They're saying parties, like they'd have a house party someplace and they wouldn't, you know, girls didn't think twice. You know, they wouldn't be cool. So they just gave out blowjobs. They weren't having sex. Right. You know, intercourse. Right. So they wouldn't get pregnant or whatever, but they would gladly give, Oral. I'm assuming they would also receive Oral. I don't know. Maybe. I don't know. But I mean, that's one way of doing it. I mean, for sure. That's fine. I mean, you know, you're not going to get pregnant that way. Yep. As long as it stays in your mouth and that's the only hole it goes into. Maybe your butthole. But I mean. So, okay. When did you discover the enjoyment of semen? Oh. Oh, I was in the Navy for two years. Smartass. Hmm. I think I was a little older. because some of the guys I was with, I guess, didn't, their cum didn't taste so good. Yeah, it might have been what they were eating. Sure. Whatever, whatever. It wasn't until later where I was like, hmm, how come yours tastes so sweet? You know, so. Okay. I think it's an acquired taste. Yeah. Yeah, so, like, you know, we're lucky enough now we don't have to masturbate anymore. Not unless we want to, which is fine. Nothing wrong with that. No, nothing at all. But, yeah, I mean, it's just a weird phenomenon how, you know, like I said, we went, as a man, went from, oh, no. Oh, no, we don't talk about it. All of a sudden, it's like, man, I banged one out the other day. Right now, it's like a freaking badge of honor. You should have seen the load I fucking used. Well, we don't get that descriptive. No. You just said, man, I was so stressed out the other day. I had to fucking rub one out. Well, I mean, I took a picture of my cum load. Well, see, the guys that I associate with do take pictures of their cum load. Two different groups. Two different groups. That's absolutely true. These are my friends, not yours. I'm friendly with them, not that friendly, okay? I'll shake your hand. My friends are a whole lot more fun than your friends. To you. To me. So. Yeah, they'll even send me little videos of them, you know, masturbating. Like, see, this one's for you, that kind of a thing. And they show them jerking off, and there's a big load, and all the cums dripping down their fingerprints. Maybe I should shoot videos of me masturbating and send it back to them. That would be really funny. They'd be like, no, what the fuck's going on here? You'd never hear from those guys again. Yeah, thanks. You'd ruin it for me. And if they were interested, then we'd have a whole new problem. I'd be in jail for a kill. Oh. Yeah. Anyway, 50shadesofpleasure.com. The magazine is kind of turned into a blog site, a little more aggressive now with imagery and the articles. Aggressive imagery? Do you mean it's like you kicked it up a notch, like a lot more nudity and more explicit stuff? Yep. Ooh. The magazine software I was using wasn't allowing me to do that. But if I make it a blog website, I can do what the fuck I want. invented in the world has been used for porn and for another. I think we talked about that before. So it's still free. Love to have people check it out. Love to have people contribute. If you have articles or subjects you've done us to write about, please let me know. Info at 50shadesofpleasure.com or also you can reach us here at info at hotwifepodcast.com. Okay. And where can they see who and what you're doing? I am hotwifedonnalyn.com. I'm on the different platforms that I'm on, posting every day. If you want to email me, it's dlyn8660 at gmail. Drop me a line. I check that email quite a bit. That's like my porn email. We still going to post a show for Thanksgiving? I guess so. Sure. Why not? Okay. Well, we want you all to enjoy your Thanksgiving, so you'll probably hopefully download the show Friday. I'm not going to count on Thursday being a big download. Okay. Sounds good. Yeah. So hope everyone has a healthy and happy Thanksgiving. Enjoy your families. If you don't have family to celebrate with, enjoy it with your friends. Yeah. If you don't have any of them, download our podcast. That I feel really bad for you. But anyway. All right. So stay horny. Have a great night, everybody.