Exploring Lesbianism: A Man's Fascination

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Speaker1: Welcome to the Hot Wife podcast, where we dive into discussions about relationships, intimacy, and everything in between. Before we begin, we want to make it clear that the views expressed on this podcast are solely those of the host and guests, and should be taken as opinions, not professional or medical advice. Additionally, we remind all listeners that this podcast is intended for adults over the age of 18. Unauthorized rebroadcast of this show is strictly prohibited without the written permission of the owners of Hot Wife Podcast. Now let's heat things up. Let the guitar scream It's time to rock, live your wildest dreams Hot White Podcast, breaking all the norms Open discussions about the swing you fall Hello everybody, this is Donna Lynn And welcome to my Hot White Podcast As you can tell, I'm here with my wonderful husband, Vince Of course Yes And we have a new toy that you've been playing with a new mixing board we have a couple toys we're playing with here oh you don't mean the one from spunk lube do you no that's your toy that's my toy yeah no we upgraded our uh soundboard and we're also um trying some new software inside computer. So we're recording two places and seeing how this all works because it's going to tie into our video podcast. Okay. So this is like the first one with the new software and the new mixing board. So hopefully it won't be a bust. Oh, I don't have the commercials on this yet. Oh, no. Oh, now we have to just wing okay so well speaking of toys and we might as well just start with spunk glue but as well yeah i know spunk glue spunk glue.com gets some really wonderful lubricant personal lubricant there is a hybrid which is the one i prefer is a water-based lubricant it's not sticky or greasy it doesn't gunk up. then there is also the silicone which a little bit goes a very long way so a little dab will do you and you can just keep going and going they also have a natural brand that is organic coconut and avocado oil which smells kind of good i mean you could you could probably cook with it but you shouldn't no but that i wouldn't suggest it but it it smells really good and smells yummy and it makes my skin feel really good and i like using that one too but uh but uh they just sent me a new toy so when you go to your checkout when you get your product type in hot wife all one word and get 10 off your order yes you should um yeah definitely um also um you want to reach out to us info at hotwifepodcast.com we just heard from a gentleman named nick who his subject line was just mf mfm which stands for male female male three-way right I don't know if you wanted to talk about it. That's what I'm going to say here if you give me a second. Oh, sorry. Go ahead, dear. So, Nick, email us back and tell us what about the threesome do you want to talk about? I mean, our experiences, we've kind of done that. Or do you want to hear about the whole, you know, how it works and etiquette or we'll do a whole show on that. Maybe, you know, even if you don't get back to us, but get back to us. We'd like to, you know, address what you want to hear. Yeah. What do you want to hear? Sure. Exactly. Yeah. You can plug your stuff real quick. Oh, my stuff. Check me out at hotwife.linn.com. It's the other things I'm I don't know. Yeah, you can plug your stuff real quick Oh, my stuff Check me out at hotwife.lynn.com It's the other things I'm doing And who I'm doing them with And all the fun I'm having Another one real quick We're now on SOS Radio So if you're a member of SOS Swinglifestyle.com A great Swingeringer website. We've been on there for over 20 years. It's the only site we're really on. Yeah, yeah, it's true. Great for meeting couples, singles, whatever. We suggest it. And again, we're in their Thursday rotation. I think it's the 4 o'clock slot. Wow, get out of here. On Thursdays, yeah. Cool. If you subscribe to them, you can join for free or whatever. If you want, you can visit hotwifepodcast.com, and there's banners there you can click, and it'll take you there. You can start your own free membership. Just do yourself a favor. Get the Lifetime membership. If you really use it, it pays for itself. It really does. If you plan on being on it for a year, get the lifetime.
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It's like, well, if they're lesbians, you're going to be left out in the cold, but I just, I struggle to see the fascination with it. If they're two bi women, and you're the only man in the middle, I totally get it. I totally get it not lesbian sex then it's it's not lesbian sex it's it's well it's it's a threesome it's a threesome but the girls are generally in more cases more often than not they're bi yeah we were watching a show and and that scenario came on and the original question i had to you was um was about why is that so fascinating to men. The other one part of this equation is, and I can't answer it, but I'm not sure if you can. That was a whole separate show, so never mind. That was another topic, the satisfaction thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, just cross that out. No, no, that's a whole other show. Ignore that. We'll get to that. So, okay, well, as a woman, watching two women go at it, is that erotic to you? Oh, absolutely. When that show came on, I'm like, what are we watching? Because all you saw were, like, the two bodies entwining and lots of close-ups and kissing and the lighting was very romantic. And I was like, what are you watching? I thought it was like some- You're not going to hear this. What? The crickets. Oh, now it has a new soundboard so now he can make fun of me in more ways than one. Okay. There we go. Thank you. Now, womp, womp've talked to a bunch of guys in fact i've just i was just um thinking back this is going back like about a year there was a gentleman who would send me money and if i gave him a dirty pair of underwear but i also had to to write him a dirty story. I fell in the mud. I fell in the mud. And the one he wanted was a lesbian fantasy. Okay. And I was like, why would you? Okay, I mean, I can do that. I can write that. And it was very erotic and it was fun to write, but I don't know. I failed to see the, I understand the fascination, I guess. The thing that I find the disconnect is like, again, if these women are into each other, they're not going to be into a man. So I just, I. at that moment. But maybe not. Well, then it's not lesbian. It's bisexual, and that's fine, but then you shouldn't call it a lesbian. I'll give you that, sure. But guys are like fascinated with this lesbian thing. I've seen guys, I've talked to guys like, yeah, I'll change her. I'll make her like men or I'll make her straight. Back to the magic cock. Yeah. And then we're back to the magic cock. It's like, no, you're not going to persuade them to change their ways. Chances are. And if they're bi, it's not really a problem because they're going to go one way or the other anyway. Their door door opens both ways and that's not a problem, but if they're stuck on one thing. If there's people that are committed to being a vegan, you're not going to tempt them with a prime rib. Yeah, you're not. I mean, you're just not. And you're not going to tempt a lesbian with a sausage. I mean, it's just... Well, you know. Maybe. In some ways, I mean, penetration is still part of it. Possibly, maybe not. But, you know, again, well, there's questions we can get into. Yeah. But All right. All it. Possibly, maybe not. But, you know, again, well, there's questions we can get into. Yeah. But, you know, openly, you're bisexual. I'm bisexual. Openly, I am bisexual. I'm both heterosexual and lesbian. See, then you should understand that whole lesbian thing. I do. People just don't, you know, don't get what I'm saying. Oh, they just don't give you credit. That's what it is. I mean, I think men should, it's not the lesbian experience. I think they're using that term, but they're not using it correctly. They want two bisexual women that can be on them because an intention will be on them. And that's, that is arousing. That is exciting. If I was a guy in the middle, that's very cool, you know, to have a girl, you know, squatting on your face while one's sucking your dick or licking your balls and vice versa. I mean, I've had it. Yeah, and that's very erotic. It's fun. It's fun. That's what we had to say about that. Oh, it's okay. No, it's very erotic. But, you know, as being the, again, men, if we pop, for the most part, we're kind of done for a little bit. Women can keep going. A woman can have an orgasm and just keep going, and it doesn't matter whether she has another orgasm or not. Exactly. There's no, yeah. And if a woman pops right away, it doesn't matter. If a woman pops in half an hour, it doesn't matter. Right. Well, here's the thing. I mean, a guy has to be kind of creative. You know, if he pops right away, he may have to resort to using toys or his fingers to fill in the gaps, as it were. No, 110% sure. What i'm saying is um if the guy pops he's not there like if you're with two beautiful women as i have been right once or twice or eight times um and you pop early let's say because the excitement right and let's just use a hypothetical didn't happen this way but hypothetical. Okay. So I'm with you and another beautiful woman. Right. Okay? So, and whatever's going on, I wind up, like, starting to have sex with you. You know, I'm kissing this other woman or I'm eating her pussy while you're riding my dick. Now, you fucking, you know, make me pop. I don't get to penetrate this woman, potentially. Potentially, yeah. Okay, or vice versa. You could be banging the other woman, but say this is the first time you get to do it. Right. Now your significant other could sit there and go, oh, sure. You know, when we make love, you last 30 minutes. You know, you put your dick inside of, you know, Susie over here. you know, that could potentially cause problems. There's a lot of things like that, and that'll circle back to the whole jealousy thing and insecurity. So there's always that green-eyed monster hiding in the closet. And that's why women should do this more often with their husband. So they get used to it. Yeah, invite your friends over to say, listen, I'm trying to get, I'm just putting them in training. Yeah, we have to desensitize you so you don't come too soon and that, you know, you can last and satisfy two women. It's all about desensitization. And, I mean, that is actually true to some extent. It's just for the benefit of both of you. It's for science. It's all for science. I mean, a husband's doing it to appease her. Oh, absolutely. Why else would he do it? Don't offend her. Exactly. But, no, and again, being a guy who has witnessed more lesbian sex than most men should be allowed to. You know, when I was bouncing the bachelor parties and stuff like that. Yeah, we were, I did a lot of that. Again, my theory was, not that it's not erotic, but again, if you aren't part of it I agree I always marvel at guys oh yeah two women it's like okay are you just watching are you involved are they actually lesbians are they bisexual what's the fascination I mean I get it to a certain extent. I just, maybe they're using the wrong terminology to express that, but I always hear guys, oh, yeah, two lesbians. It's like, hmm, I don't think they're going to be interested in you. If they're true lesbians. If they're true lesbians. Okay, at a swinger party, some of the wives, not all, some of the wives are bisexual. So if they're going to town and two women are going to town on each other, and then the husband walks over and they're like, oh, Joe, jump in. Oh, yeah. You know, then it's different. It is different. It's much different because most— But if they're true just lesbians. Right. It's, I think you're just, yeah, they're not going to be interested in that whole male thing. Potential. Or that penis thing. Yeah. So, yeah, I always found that it is very erotic and I understand their fascination with it, but I'm not sure what the end game is for some men. I don't know if they really thought it through. Well, it's a fantasy again. Oh, it is a fantasy. It is definitely a fantasy. I mean, the fantasy is guys who think they are some incredible lover and that if the women play with him, he's going to convert them and then now they're going to be in love with it's like he pulled the sword out of the rock and he now in charge of england and they're going to tell all their lesbian friends and they're all going to come to him to be converted like he's saving them from lesbianism yeah i i don't't know. Oh, there's guys out there like that. Oh, I know. Believe me, I have met quite a few. It took me all time to realize that I didn't have that magic deck. Or magic whatever. Whatever you want to call it. Yes, I think, like the story I had to write for this gentleman, I wasn't sure of his end his end game or his goal. Maybe that was the question mark I had. So when I was writing the story, I was trying to make it really, you know, erotic and, you know, what, what I would do with another woman and, you know, how I would approach her and, and what we would do together. We were standing by the seafood counter at the grocery store. And I said, Mike said,
Speaker2: oh,
Speaker1: that smells like some fresh fish. She goes, I love fresh fish. Me too. I have some tuna here. Do you ever taste lap flounder? Lap flounder. It's almost that cheesy. I like tacos, especially fish tacos. And the thing is, and correct me if I'm wrong, I don't know. I mean, when two females are together, I really don't like to use the term lesbian.
Speaker2: Right, exactly, because they may not be lesbian.
Speaker1: Oh, whatever, I just don't like the term. But anyway, that type, and again, I'll use a very generic term of sex or lovemaking, if you want to call it that generally. In the swinging world, it's not lovemaking, it's sex. It's sex, for sure. Let's just stick with the sex part. The sex between two women is different emotionally than sex between a man and a woman. Yeah, I think sex between two women, now correctly, if I'm wrong, is more sensual. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Because it's different. Yeah, it's a little softer. I'm going to say it's more passionate in a way, a different passion. It's a definitely different passion, definitely. It's a little more, it's a little softer. It's a little more sensual. It's a little more, you need to take your time. I don't think you see two women, like one trying to choke the other one. I don't think there's a dominant necessarily, as much of a dominant. I'm going to put it that way. I think in any sexual relationship, there has to be someone that is dominant. Oh, I'm glad you're thinking me that way. I'm really not that dominant. Oh, shit. You're recessive. You're not even dominant i'm recessive thanks oh my god you're not even a sub you're recessive that's even worse oh my god you run away from it i'm a doormat just walk all over me no i love it no i think like again for what i've seen it's it's a softer it's a again i'm not saying every situation no i've known some pretty rough ones what i'm saying with women with women oh have you more more aggressive i shouldn't say rough more aggressive okay again i haven't seen that i've seen a lot more the kissing and touching. I almost think it's almost more foreplay-ish than I would say like normal type of, I'll use the term intercourse even though technically intercourse isn't happening. Right, exactly. But it's more of a foreplay atmosphere where it's the playful, the sensual, the kissing, the know sometimes i mean it does depend on the circumstance um i'm sure there are couples that would definitely disagree with us and say hey when we get together it's you know sure i'm sure if i went on pornhub i could find oh my god you know 20 videos fast of two women being you know more aggressive but exactly I haven't searched on that yet I'm sure you will show it's over soon you have to do your homework is that what you're trying to say I have so much homework to do even when you look at the top videos that people search on you won't find girl on girl being in the top 20. I think because as a society, we're so much more depraved that the girl on girl is like, it's nice, it's cute, it's sensual. But I think our depravity has evolved so much that we need other things to get us off. Well, again, we talked about it before. And I'm saying that mostly in jest, but I have seen a definite progression. Everything now is a fetish. Absolutely. Normal intercourse is a fetish. Your blowjob is a fetish. Anal is a fetish. Threes, threesomes, it's a fetish. You know, they've broken it down because there is so many, everyone's like, well, I want to see intercourse, but I want to see it between a younger man and an older woman. I want to see it between someone who's a stepson and a grandmother. Oh my God, yeah. You know, I mean, I want to see, you know, whatever. You know, the stepbrother, stepsister thing. I want to see whatever. So everything has become a fetish. Mm-hmm. And I think with the broadening of all those horizons, quote-unquote, that the girl-on-girl aspect or woman-on-woman aspect isn't in the front seat anymore. I see what you mean. Not to mention, it seems like with any other thing, there are fads and like fashion. There's things that are fashion, there are fads for the time. And you find that in the sex world too. Sure. too sure no that's you know what's really big and like oh now it's you know fisting now it's double fisting that i don't whatever you don't even get there yeah there's things i put down my head i don't okay so men are attracted like let's pretend you went to exotica and there's two hot women and they start kissing people men and women are going to gather around them and watch them and cheer them on yeah yeah okay now two men start kissing there'll be a part of it that we there'll be some oh yeah gather around them and cheer them on yeah I'm blessed with that but my question is
Speaker2: as a apartment that we there'll be some oh yeah there'll be around them and cheer them on yeah
Speaker1: i'm blessed with that but my question is as a woman would you go over there and want to watch and see where it goes no exotic can i go so far but i'm saying like just so is do women in general have the same fascination with two men that men have with two women? Good question. I would say... Do you? Would you... Okay, so it's not out of the question for men, not me, but some men, to masturbate to go on Pornhub or wherever and search on Girl Girl video and sit there and be like, yep, I want to watch this and okay right um i know some women will go watch two men i've heard of women that like to watch gay porn but as would you as a woman last time i checked um last time would if again i know you don't go watch your videos and masturbate but if you were going to would watching two men get you horny uh i would be curious it depends on the the men and what they look like like i saw one gay two of them not looking like me oh then it's hot yeah stop it no i i was i saw these two like i mean regular looking straight guys muscular hairy i mean I don't know. Stop it. No, I was, I saw these two, like, I mean, regular looking straight guys, muscular, hairy. I mean, they look like they were not effeminate at all. And they're going at it. And I was like, I had to watch it because I was like, something didn't look great to me. Like I would expect if I were going to see gay porn, especially male gay porn, that it would be more like female gay porn. You know, because the men would be more effeminate. There would be more... I have never seen gay porn, and I'm proud of the same one. But these guys were like muscular and lumberjacks, you know? I still think the intercourse between two men is going to be closer to sex between a man and a woman. I think you'll still see some choking. Oh, it is more... Yeah, it's going to be more dominant. When I was watching it, yeah, it was definitely a little more... I don't want to use the word aggressive, but it certainly wasn't as sensual and soft. I'm sure there is at some point. It depends on the men. It depends on a lot of things. These were more like, I was surprised that it was gay porn, truthfully, because these were like, I'm going to use the word lumberjack because they were big burly guys two big burly hairy guys i if i would you know if you don't like pass them on the street i wouldn't think they were gay i mean usually nothing you can always tell i'm sorry i don't mean to be stereotypical but you know like my gay friend he was obvious that he was gay Well, I mean, again, gay nowadays, especially amongst men, is so different. It is so different. It isn't just the flamboyant. No. You know, and whatever, whatever works for you, own it. You know, God bless you if that's what you're into. Yeah, you know. Yeah, make yourself happy. If you find somebody to be happy with, that's even better. Don't, everybody has to be consenting, end of age. That's it, that's it. But yeah, it was, like watching that, the gay porn was very interesting. I watched it a couple of times because I was like, am I seeing what I'm seeing? Is that dick in his ass? Is that dick in his ass? Now, there's another one I saw where there was a, the guys were more, they weren't as hairy, not as muscular. So that made sense to me. But seeing the big kind of muscular, like more, you know, more, you know, more manly looking man going after each other. I was kind of questioning like, what's going on here? Am I watching what I'm watching? Is this right? I guess in my head I shouldn't be so stereotypical because anybody could be gay. It's like whatever, whatever makes you happy.
Speaker2: Except me.
Speaker1: What's that? I said, except me. Except you, of course. Well, it's for me, sex is very much like food.
Speaker2: If you have any questions, please post them in the comments. makes you happy. Except me. What's that? I said, except me. Except you, of course.
Speaker1: Well, for me, sex is very much like food. You like what you like. You like what you like. Don't eat anything you don't like. Pretty much. I know about that. And there are things like when these guys have this attitude like, oh, I can change her. It's like, no.
Speaker2: No.
Speaker1: I'll use the thing with food Thank you. These guys have this attitude like, oh, I can change her. It's like, no, no. I'll use the thing with food again. You'll never make me like olives. I will never like olives. I have tried to like olives. And I cannot like an olive. I know you love olives. I just. Where did I go wrong? I don't. I can't. I thought I brought you up right now. I know. I just don't. I just can't. I can't. You're not even Italian by insertion. Not even. Nope. I've tried. I have really tried. You haven't really tried. Yes, I have. I've eaten them and spit them right out because they're too salty and they're just gross. Oh, but you'll suck a cum load down. That's, you know... Well, it's different. Is it? Oh, much different. Yes, I know. How would you know? I don't. I'm going by what I've been told. Oh, that likely story. Oh, yes. I read it in a book. Anybody who would tell you that I sucked a dick is buried in the backyard. That's right. Just saying. But anyway. But, yeah, I mean. All right. So have you solved this interest, why men find it so fast do you think it's more that they think that oh I could change them most when I was when I was still when I was a dancer and I would have either customers I was close to or male friends 99% of them would say oh I could switch. She just hasn't been with me. It's like, with that attitude, she's never going to be with you. She will turn gay after you. If she wasn't gay before, she is now. Yeah, I mean, they just, oh, I could make her change. It's like, no, you can't. Don't even try. Why would you want to try? Why would you want to do that? It's for selfish reasons because you want a piece of hurt. It's an ego thing. It is definitely. It's selfish and it's egotistical. You're absolutely right. You're not going to change them. Yeah. So move on and enjoy the show, but know that you are probably not going to be part of it unless they're bi. If they're actually gay. If they're bi, then they might want some penetration afterwards. Then they might want that, but, you know. I get it. So I don't know if we've solved it or not. I don't think we were out to solve anything. I just think we were talking about it. Yeah, and there's... Again, we'd love to hear your thoughts on this topic. Info at hotwifepodcast.com. And the other thing we didn't bring up earlier is don't forget to check out the free magazine, 50shadesofpleasure.com. The new one will be coming out shortly. Check it out. It's free. It's online. All the issues are out there for you. It doesn't cost you anything. I mentioned the word free. However, on the website, there is a little button. If you appreciate the work we put into it and you want to make a donation of whatever, great. We appreciate it. And did you give them the website? 50shadesofpleasure.com. Okay. I just want want to make sure And then just click on the issues button And it takes you to all the issues And it is 50 spelled out Not the number 50 Yeah, F-I-F-T-Y Shades of Pleasure Anyway, alright, and with that said I think we're done for the night So have a great night everybody
Speaker2: See ya.