In this episode of the Hot Wife Podcast, hosts Donna Lynn and Vince explore the themes of cuckoldry, the nature versus nurture debate regarding sexual preferences, and the intriguing intersection of food and sexuality. They discuss listener experiences, personal anecdotes, and the importance of open communication in relationships. The conversation emphasizes the diversity of sexual experiences and the acceptance of individual preferences, all while maintaining a light-hearted and humorous tone.TakeawaysThe podcast emphasizes that the views expressed are personal opinions.Cuckoldry is explored as a consensual lifestyle choice.The nature versus nurture debate is central to understanding sexual preferences.Personal experiences shape individual sexual identities and preferences.Food analogies are used to describe sexual attraction and preferences.Open communication is crucial in exploring sexual desires.The hosts share their own experiences with BDSM and cuckoldry.The importance of a safe environment for exploring sexual desires is highlighted.The podcast encourages listeners to embrace their unique sexual identities.Humor and light-heartedness are key elements of the conversation.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/hot-wife-podcast-and-the-swinger-lifestyle--5343522/support. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Speaker1: Welcome to the Hot Wife Podcast, where we dive into discussions about relationships, intimacy, and everything in between. Before we begin, we want to make it clear that the views expressed on this podcast are solely those of the host and guests, and should be taken as opinions, not professional or medical advice. Additionally, we remind all listeners that this podcast is intended for adults over the age of 18. Unauthorized rebroadcast of this show is strictly prohibited without the written permission of the owners of Hot Wife Podcast. Now, let's heat things up. hello everybody this is donna lynn and welcome to my hot white podcast of course and i am here with the ever wonderful vince of me i'm here yes you are sitting right here over here oh there you are ways oh there you are i couldn't see you right in front of me because i wasn't really looking yeah there's something different so you want to contact us you can contact us at info at hotwhitepodcast.com. Send us your comments, your questions, your, you know, advice. If you want advice, you want to give us advice. You have a concept for a show you'd like to hear us talk about. We'd love to hear it. Also, don't forget to check out the free magazine, the online magazine at 50shadesofpleasure.com. That's F-I-F-T-Y, not 5-0. Speaker2: Right. Speaker1: It's all free. Well, that's good. Speaker2: Free is good. Yeah. Speaker1: We answer our emails. And we're actually, this show is about a statement from a listener. Speaker2: Yes. Speaker1: My favorite cookie. Your favorite cookie fan. Speaker2: Yeah. Yeah. Speaker1: It's Mr. Chips Ahoy, okay. Mr. Lorna Dune. Can you give us a little synopsis of what his- We've mentioned him before. He's going back and forth, yes, of course. Yeah, great guy from what I can tell. And he is fully embracing the cuckold life. Yeah. He is dream man this guy is just he's got uh an ex-girlfriend and a friend or an ex-boyfriend of hers that he's a friend with or whatever the dynamic is it's irrelevant it's but uh he is cuckold being cuckolded by both of them yeah he's watching him cleaning him up uh servicing him he's and he's quite happy with that and that's awesome oh that is really awesome not not my gig no but that's he is fucking tickled fucking pink with that shit and that's great again just because it might not be something we're into right doesn't mean It's a. No. He's a consenting thing. Everyone's of age, to best of our knowledge. And he is just loving it. Now, you said the last email, he mentioned that he was probably like this all along that's what the show's about exactly nature versus nurture yep the show he actually made a statement he feels he was born a cuckold yeah so the show is about you know nature versus nurture is it something that you are taught or is it something that you're just born into? I mean, and that's everything. Right. Oh, yeah, yeah. And again, we briefly mentioned this on the last show, the aspect of like, okay, there are people that can argue this and I think they're stupid, that like someone who is gay, they're born with that. Oh, absolutely. It's not something you wake up one day and go, yeah, I think I'm gay. I think I'm gay. No, you're born with that. I mean, we've all seen it growing up. There were kids in school that were obviously gay. And they might not have recognized they were gay. Oh, they didn't now. But from the outside, we can see they're gay. Oh, my God. And that's whatever. I mean, it's a different world now than when you and I were in school. Yeah. But anyway, we're not here to talk about that. No, and that's part of it. Anything that's in your sexual development, is this nature or nurture? Now, it could be a little bit of both. I can see that. Like you have, for me, sex is very much like food food there are certain types of food that i i find very appealing and they're food that you you like you'll understand like your thing was lima beans it's like i you hate lima beans you're never gonna like them mine is olives and i have tried i mean i wish i did like them try to like olives and you love them and you're like yeah i'm gonna have a bowl of olives as a snack and i'm like that's gotta be i'd rather have my toenails pulled out by the root yeah i get it well but and that's it i try to like them well again as we've talked about on on the show about different aspects of sexuality right like the the bdsm thing right okay so you look at nature versus nurture there are people that you can tell are very dominant people yes they're going to be in like so if they were going to get into the bdsm world they're going to be a dom they're going to be a top they're going to be hang on what's that i i i have to correct myself okay okay so wait we met numerous uh doms right that one that had The Big Hair Drove a Hearse. Oh, yeah. She numerous doms. Right. That one that had the big hair drove a hearse. Oh, yeah. She talked about her clientele was very dominant people in life. Judges, police officers, lawyers. Right, right. But they were very submissive in their sexuality. They wanted to be controlled. They wanted to be humiliated. They wanted to be, because in their life, in their daily life. their daily life that too they are i don't but whatever um in their daily routine they are very um dominant right we even said the the one girl you dated that work she was like oh i knew exactly what you want to do and then you guys would have gone on a date you know afterwards and you're like where do you want to go and she's like oh i don't care what do you want to do oh i don't care it's like what happened to this this woman that knew exactly what she wanted to do 20 minutes ago while you were at work you know you're off work and she's like a wet piece of noodle yeah yeah that's weird but yeah a lot of times i guess from for me it is using a food analogy again it's something you know that you are going to be attracted to with certain foods you know certain foods are going to you're going to enjoy them same thing with sexuality but i think what you have innately like in your body that's what you have to start with but then nurture does come in you're going to meet certain people that might have a different spin on it with the bdsm world i never thought that i would be into that that wasn't part of my genetic makeup well the thing is i guess the uh part that's not actually out there is the fact that at what point until you discover what bdsm as an example is, you don't know. You'd be 12 years old and be a very dominant person, but you don't know anything about, well, back in our day, you didn't know anything about sex at 12. No, but you might display it in other ways. You might, if you have a little brother. Hey, Johnny, come over here, smack my ass. i want to i want to wrestle you and i'm gonna be on top and he has to win all the time those things it might be something like that that just kind of comes out in that that kind of way not that that's a dead giveaway or that's even real but i didn't i had a with my thing with the whole bdsm world, I knew I liked being restrained. And it's not because my brother tied me up and tortured me. I don't think that had anything to do with it. But that's just a funny little thing that he liked to do. He liked to torture us, our little sisters. So older brothers do. I was the oldest. Because you have no one to come down on you for.
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Exactly.
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We couldn't we couldn't overpower him so but it wasn't until i saw other people doing it that i was like oh that does look interesting to me so kind of nature kind of like takes kind of like phases off and all of a sudden the nurture takes over because now you have all these outside influences saying oh this is this is what it can be this is you have you know a certain level like what you find attractive in your own mind but then you start getting influences from other people or ideas or situations as i've talked about you know when i was a kid i was beat heavily by both yes by both my parents right so when i found out about let's say spanking and stuff like that i'm like fuck no i don't want someone else hitting me i didn't enjoy it when my you know but you might have taken it the other way and been like i'm gonna hit somebody else and they're gonna love it but yeah but i did that's when i became a bouncer and stuff and you know that's like yeah someone wants to fuck with me i'm gonna fuck them up it because but so yeah that's not sexual at all i wasn't sexual at all no not i'm not even pretending um but it was that whole um yeah for so for me all that stuff was not um wasn't a nature well wasn't a nurture i guess it was nature told me told me like no i don't want to be hit yeah that um no that's definitely nurture because your parents were doing it to you if you okay if you just said hey i something happened and you got smacked by something arbitrary not from a call it's not from your parents and you're like oh that was kind of nice then maybe you could take it to that oh okay it was introduced earlier in life as kind of a not from your parents not from anything else that's negative yeah all right i don't know and it could affect people's lives in different ways what their experiences are well let's you know let's talk about chips ahoy chips ahoy yeah So do you think maybe he enjoys being a cuckold because he's a very giving person? It's another way of giving. Oh, he's giving a whole lot then. He's giving and he's bringing others pleasure. Oh, yeah. All part of the giving. So that must be his nature. I mean, I've never met the gentleman. No, no, you have to be very open to those kind of things to begin with. He has to want to please and satisfy others. Right, right. And I don't know what level his coldness is at. I don't know if he's being humiliated as part of it. I. I believe for what he's written in the past, there's a slight level of that. But it's not like over the top. I don't know. But whatever, it's bringing him happiness, and that's all that matters. Oh, yeah, that's all that matters. I'm just trying to understand. It's like, he probably had those tendencies early on in life, and now he's absolutely put, somebody puts a miracle grow on that plant and now it's just grown like crazy. Yeah. And there's nothing wrong with that. That works for him and the people he's doing it with. Oh, absolutely. And that's, that's great. Oh yeah. Especially if you can, if you can find a safe environment to do, especially something like that. Because when I first read the email from him, he hadn't made that step yet this is he was nervous to approach it oh yeah and us too because well i have something to talk about i'm kind of embarrassed and i was like okay what's going on here but then when he told me the whole story how it kind of like just happened yeah when he was with it was a the one girlfriend's ex-boyfriend or ex-boyfriend you know whatever it was that's what i was saying it's like okay there's yeah there's an x in there somewhere but whatever he happened to mention to this gentleman that hey i always wanted to suck a cock and of course the guy was like well here i just happen to have a cock right here you can stop i have a dick i once sucked yeah hey happy day so he had to have somebody that was not going to belittle him for having those kind of tendencies and wants and needs. So that's kind of nice. And he can't always help what you find enjoyable. You know what I'm saying? You might be like, oh, this is really sick, but I like it so much. It's a dangerous edge to approach someone. It's like, here's what I like to do. Oh, can you imagine? Well. No, I give them kudos, man. Oh, yeah. That's gutsy to sit there and go, I got an idea. Here's an idea for you. I want to see this guy, fuck this girl, and then when he's done. Eddie Murphy when he did the the Honeymooners I don't know if I've seen that
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Ralph
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come over here and fuck me in my ass I forgot all about that I'll have to go see that again that would have been very good I think it was Eddie Murphy Raw oh that was on Eddie Murphy Raw yes we have seen that it's a hysterical video you can watch it was his first Thank you. Murphy Raw. Oh, that was on Eddie Murphy Raw. Yes, we have seen that. It's a hysterical video you can watch. It was his first TV stand-up solo thing. He's wearing red leather pants. His Aunt Bunny falling down the steps. Oh, help me, Jesus. Different topic. Yeah, different topic. Not quite a session. No, so, I mean, hey, for, you know, for, you know, Chips Ahoy, he's living his best life, man. I'm envious of the pleasure he's receiving, not of how he's receiving it. No, it's good. I'm glad he was able to make that, put that out there with people that didn't shoot him down and make him feel terrible. could have been a real ego destroyer right there and he's great he emails us oh yeah every couple days with you guys are great i love you guys oh chips ahoy we love you too especially those chips oh boy i like the way they melt in my mouth it gets in my. You go good with milk, just to tease me. Oh, I want your milk, too. Dunk in my coffee. You sick motherfucker. You're making my blood sugar go up, yeah. But, okay, so people that, I mean, now, I'm going to address the nastiness. Okay, what's the nastiness? The people who have the wrong urges, children, animals. Yeah. We've already been over. These are things, you know what? No, they're not acceptable. No. If you have these urges, please, before you act on them, go get help. Before you do something and fuck up somebody's life well and your life and your own yeah go get help you don't don't pursue that shit you know there's plenty of other aspects you can chase that won't hurt somebody and and fuck your life up right so but anyway or use a hooker that whatever that's her thing yeah she'll dress up for you. Whatever. Whatever. But yeah, we've the kids and the animals a lot. Yeah, they didn't ask for this, so. But anyway, but yeah, I mean, I mean, I guess the nature part of me is as being a voyeur. Mm-hmm. And that's always kind of been there. Well, yeah, like, like actually when i got into photography you know way before 9-11 way way you know i used to go i found it very fascinating to study people people watch and i could you could back then you could go down to the airport and you could go right up to terminals when people were coming in and flying out. And actually, I would photograph people. They didn't know it, per se, but just the emotions going on of someone leaving or someone coming home. And I found it just really interesting. So the same thing translates into someone like you watching you give and or receive pleasure. Oh, I get it. You know, to me, I find that very stimulating in so many ways. Not just erotically, but, you know, just, I don't know, it's the thing that is just in me. It's not something I learned. Right, right. That's the difference. That's definitely nature. Yeah. And the things with me when I started realizing I was bisexual and I was like, oh, you know, might be, oh, she's really attractive. And, you know, you start, you know, thinking of like she's more than just attractive. She's like, hmm, that might be kind of fun. And, you know, I wonder what she tastes like. And I wonder if she wonder if she would of course i never approached anybody like when i was in high school no not not back then not in the 70s you oh no it could have ruined my life you know it wasn't until i was um messing around with this one karate dude not not the owner of the club yeah his his under underling had a girlfriend, and she was buying. He goes, yeah, why don't you come over? Me and Patty will do you up. And I was like, yeah, okay. She's cute, but she had long fingernails. If you're a bisexual woman, long fingernails, mm-mm, not good, not good at all. Just saying. I mean, they were long enough that when she put like fingers up my pussy i was like whoa careful you're forgetting where your nails are yeah forgetting where your nails are they were just a little too long so we're to the wise keep the fingernails shorter just saying don't make them pointy either pointy's not good yes but if you do don't be putting them in someone's pussy yeah but what would you say is your nature part of things the exhibitionist part definitely the exhibitionist part i've always never had a problem being in front of people i mean even when as a younger young person like i'm talking like pre-teens, like when we were skating, I never had a problem performing in front of a shit ton of people. Okay. You know, that didn't bother me. Yeah. Bodybuilding, like being in front of people. Yeah, I was nervous that one contest, but that was short-lived. Like once you get out there, I was a stripper oh my god i have to be an exhibitionist i was a stripper i didn't need 20 shots to get me on the stage it was just like no i'm good let's go let's go do i have to keep my clothes on all the time look to know that's what the nude nude bars was like this is a breeze i don't oh it doesn't fit right who cares it's coming off anyway it's i could be on long anyway nope it was great it was so carefree yeah that was wonderful that was great but yeah that was probably something that was very nature it was already instilled it was an innate type of behaviors or characteristic or something i found attractive okay um still So i do remember being a very very young i'm talking five six seven certainly under the age of 10 and having dancing on the playground and making change i used to swing around the poles on the playground did you yes yes i did well we would just like kind of like spin around them not with our feet off the ground but just you know grab a hook of it with your with your elbow i think we all did that yeah it was that kind of thing i didn't make much money i don't think i did either but certainly was fun uh no i had i remember having i watched like certain, usually they were, this is going to sound really stupid. I'm telling this to everybody. I've never told this to anybody before. There was a show, because it had to be like 1967, 68. There was a show called Combat. I was one. There was a show called Combat. It was a war show. And I'd watch that. And for some reason, I'd go up to my room at bedtime and I'd fantasize about being caught by these guys and being tied up being restrained so and i i found that very where the eight-year-old mind exciting exciting for the seven sexually exciting not but very exciting very fair enough and i've never told that to anybody because i was like this is stupid i've never heard that I never told anybody because I was like well this is just stupid or was it Rat Patrol do you remember Rat Patrol yeah I do I love that show yeah it was one of those two shows that would come on based on real thing I'm sure it was but I was what young I was really young yeah that's interesting yeah yeah so i remember having these so that's where your remote bdsm interest yeah i have a thing for being i like mild mild restraints i don't want to be to the point that my you know my joints are going to hurt i just like being restrained enough that I have to struggle to achieve the pleasure that I'm looking for. And it is the struggle that is very exciting to me because, um, it's, it's like if you were to eat my pussy and I'm trying to like, yeah, sometimes I try to like move my pussy up to your face. You could eat it more, but I'm, I'm kind of, you, you'll pin me down. So I can't, that's't that's exciting to me okay that's exciting you know then then you might let it go because if you don't let let me you know let me do what i need to do then it becomes frustrating so i'd like the intermittent uh being restrained and released restrained and released that kind of stuff intermittent i guess does make sense? Is there such a thing as being intermittently restrained? You know, like you're held down for a bit, but then you're capped. I've never had that happen, so I can't. And they let you up a little bit so you can get the sensation you're trying to get that you can't get being restrained. And it's a struggle. It is the struggle I find incredibly exciting, but you know, you don't want to just keep doing that because then you're not getting fulfilled and then that kind of sucks. But in the beginning, it's very exciting. So yeah, those things I think were in my, in my, the DNA from an early age of some, some form of restraint and finding women very intriguing and sexy. Yeah. I don't, yeah. I've always found women intriguing. But you never thought men were intriguing? No. They disgust me. They disgust you. They're sweaty, hairy, penis. Even sweat can be very sexy. If it's like fresh sweat. Oh, yeah, it can. On a a woman on a man or woman no not so much no we disagree on things i don't know if we should be married we're disagreeing on these things opposite to try i guess that's what you like penis i don't oh yeah i guess it is opposite so we have things in common i like pussy so do you ah true so i mean here's one i don't want to belabor this topic too awful much but you're saying that opposites attract but could it also be that i don't know like with with the things that were like in play in your early life and the things that were in play in my early life they they don't they don't correspond at all i mean not even so how is it that we get along so well i mean i maybe just because they're just i don't know it's not the whole ball wax. That's only certain things that make us very unique. But in general. I can get along with anybody.
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Really.
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Oh, yeah, okay. I can. I don't. You choose not to. Well, I mean, if we have a lot of points of interest that are not in common. Right. I mean, I can get along with you. i don't have to like you right right um and like you and i were together for you know three years four years um with no romantic tie or anything yeah i guess you're right it was just a just a friendly thing And again, what, again, I'm not any visual candy. What? Yeah, I guess you're right. It was about four years. It was just a friendly thing. And again, I'm not any visual candy. Yeah, you told me. It was actually your words. But the women who have been attracted to me have been more attracted to me because of my personality. Yeah, I can see that, definitely. So. Like once they break the ice, they find out like your sense of humor and and how quick-witted you are and how funny you are and uh how easy you are to talk to hang out with you know this you're not a very some guys are so it's such a laborious task to be with them. Some women, too, like high-maintenance men, high-maintenance women. Forget it. I can't – I don't have the energy. Sorry, guys. I just – Yeah. That's why being with you, it's so easy. And this, again, goes back to nature versus nurture. You're – No, I'm not trying to sell anybody on anything. No. I'm just like, I i am yeah if you like it if you like it great if you don't like it i don't give two fucks move on it's fine we're good with that yeah i got it and um yeah whatever but uh yeah it's and again um yeah i don't know where my nature came from because my parents both were, like I said, abusive. I wasn't really given a whole lot. We didn't have a whole lot of kids. So now, as you've even told me, that I tend to be selfless. Yeah, it's like scary. And, you know, I just, I enjoy seeing, I'd rather do without and give someone else happiness. Yes else happiness. Yes. In so many ways. You're a sick, sick man. Well, you know. But, I mean, I'm not talking about even just sexual, and you know that. No. I've seen you, like, even when it comes to food, give me a bigger slice. It's like, dude, look at the difference here. Well, but again, okay, we'll use food as an example here. Yeah, just use food as a good one. Especially more recently, with me working at home now, being able to cook for you and seeing how much you just- Oh, my God. How much you enjoy what I cook. Oh, it's almost orgasmic. Can I just say, can I say that? Yeah, it's kind of a show about orgasms, yeah. Oh, it's so good. And it's like, I knew you were always a good cook. I hate cooking. I do know cooking. We would starve to death. We'd be very skinny if I did the cooking. We'd be like, here's a bag of salads. Maybe you should do the cooking. Yeah, maybe I should. Because he makes these amas. It's just, it has like mushrooms in it, and it has like, you know, crispy, tender, you know, onions and stuff. But that's not the part I like. It's the guacamole on top. And then it might be cherry tomatoes, which give it a little bit of zest, or it might be a salsa. We go into this guacamole and salsa thing lately. It's so good. And it really fills you up. I know it's not sexy, guys. You're not going to talk about my lunch today? Oh, you didn't put steak meat on it. Oh, this is a guacamole toast, right? Toast, yeah. And it doesn't sound great, but first of all, the bread you use has to be very grainy. It has a lot of seeds. We used Ezekiel bread. Yeah, Ezekiel bread with the guacamole, and then you put, did you put tomatoes on it? We had leftover flat iron steak I made on the grill last night.
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So good.
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And then we put some sliced tomato, fresh tomato on it. And the steak was still pink, juicy. It was good. That was the sexiest part of the show right there. And she didn't have it. That was actually my lunch. She was eating something else. He gave me a little piece of his steak. I said, here, half a piece of toast. I made two pieces of toast. Yeah, he did give me the half a piece. She sat there and just purred like a fucking kitten. Yeah, it was, that's right up there. Food and sex for me are very, very similar. They answer a lot of primal needs, like food. You're hungry, so you just want to eat. But sometimes you're sexually hungry, and you just want to fuck, and you just want to, you're starving. I know, you're starving. I'm so sorry. Poor little thing. Oh, that hurt hurt that has to be a little thing well you're starving to death you would have to be little because you're not being you're not getting the nutrition that you need or getting rid of some whatever all right but before we make this a show about cooking yeah i know let's just wrap this up and move on thank everyone for listening hey man stay horny have a great night everybody