Embracing Imperfections in Intimacy

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Welcome to the Hot Wife Podcast, where we dive into discussions about relationships, intimacy, and everything in between. Before we begin, we want to make it clear that the views expressed on this podcast are solely those of the host and guests, and should be taken as opinions, not professional or medical advice. Additionally, we remind all listeners that this podcast is intended for adults over the age of 18. Unauthorized rebroadcast of this show is strictly prohibited without the written permission of the owners of Hot Wife Podcast. Now, let's heat things up.

well hello everybody welcome to my hot white podcast and i am donna lynn and of course i'm with my ever loving husband vince once again ever? I'm trying to mix it up a little bit, okay? Wow, okay. Yeah, that's fine. That's cool. I am ever-loving. Ever-loving. Da-da-da-da. You are that. I could not do this show without you. I'm ever-loving or I'm da-da-da. Come on, let's go. Now he's like da-da-da. That's what you really like. Okay, I'm ever loving or I'm da-da. Come on. Let's go. No, he's like da-da-da. That's what you really like. Okay, I'm a da-da-da-da. Yeah, I get it. No argument there.

Oh, I love you. You know that. My favorite flavor is window. Yes, I can vouch for that. For those who don't get that, I'm a window licker. Anyway, hey, you know what? My best friend just kind of left. And, you know, he listens to the show occasionally. And we've gotten emails from other people who listen. And want to, first of all, say thank you. Every one of them has been kind. Okay. I was expecting something different, but okay. Get rid of Donna. You need somebody else on that damn show. Yeah, she needs to be the... It needs to be the hot husband show. There you go.

The hot swinger, single, divorced, white woman. What? What?

But no, the comments we've been getting uh lately are all been positive and how that uh how much they enjoy the show and not just him but other people right and we really appreciate that you know i mean i think your friend would just blow smoke up our butts that i i don't you know i have to pay him extra for that oh okay um no we've heard it from other people too so um so again i really appreciate that yeah we really do but it's we we again we said this prior podcast um we started this podcast to primarily just promote the content you create.

We never thought we thought, hey, if we get 10 people to listen, okay, that'd be great. It's almost like therapy for us. I was going to say, it's more like the therapy for us because there's so many things that we just like to talk about. And we talk about this stuff off the air.

And all we do is just, like I said before, just put a microphone in front of us and and it's a podcast yeah so um so those of you who listen thank you those of you who enjoy hopefully it's all the same thank you um we obviously do something from what we've been told different than a lot of people this is all unscripted. Yeah, I think that's pretty obvious. Yeah. And the banter you hear between us is exactly what goes on when we're not in front of the microphones. And definitely goes on in my head. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I just hear kill. That's me. This is what goes on in our bedroom.

Frightening, very frightening. It does? I'm just putting it out. I don't think anything goes on in our bedroom. If that was true, we would not even have a podcast to talk about. Yeah, no, I don't. But again, I want to just quickly express our gratitude for everyone who listens and continues to listen, and so thank you. Yeah, for both of us, thank you very much. So we'll get the business out of the way. Sure. I won't say nastiness. It's not just business. We appreciate your comments and stuff, so reach out to us at info at hotwifepodcast.com. We will answer you as promptly as we can.

We're pretty good about that. Yeah. Contact us with suggestions, questions, comments, topics, whatever you want. We'd love to hear from you. And what else? Okay, thanks for listening. No, so, but yeah, reach out to us. Let us know what you think, what your questions are, whatever topics you want us to cover. Even if we covered it, we'll cover it again. We'll cover it again. We don't care. So we're approaching our fourth year anniversary. I can't believe we've been doing this four years. Is that much to talk about? Apparently. Two times a week. It's amazing.

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In the swinging world, it's like why you would maybe want to include mature couples into your, I'm sorry, I talked away from the microphone, mature couples into your friends group. Friend group, okay. Friends. Okay, sure. If you're going to play with somebody, try an older couple. Well, mature. Which will generally be older, may be older than you. Yeah. Okay, so anyway. And again, we got this off of SLS's little newsletter. I thought we got it from an HR team. I was like, oh, okay. It's one of the topics in their monthly newsletter.

So let's give them a little shout out because, you know, that's where we're on them. We're on SOS. If you're on SOS, look us up. We are photocouple, F-O-T-O-C-P-L-E, and look us up. Send us a friend request. I'm sure we'll follow you back. We'll share some pictures. We have a lot of pictures. Yeah, like over 100, I think. Yeah. That's the photocouple. That's the photocouple.

But be on swinglifestyle.com.com Actually the podcast is being shared On their I think Thursdays Our show comes on their radios SOS radio So definitely check that out Yeah so What do you deem As one of the benefits To playing with a mature couple? Oh, my God, there's so many. I mean, some of the real obvious ones. As we say for us. For us, it's like, well, mature couples tend to be more secure in their relationships. Generally. We've run into some that weren't. Yes, we have. In general, less drama. In general. Yeah, generally, a lot less drama. Yeah, a little more laid back.

Of course, you don't have to worry about the whole, you know, depending on what their rules are, of course, all, you know, in general, you know, pregnancy things. So you can probably, there might be like you could, you know, may or may not have to wear a condom once you know them and whatever your rules are. But, you know, that's always something that might be more attractive. You know, you don't have to worry about that. I think mature couples are open to more in general. They've experienced more. Right, sure. So their horizons are generally a little more broad. Yeah, I agree with that.

So, yeah. You wouldn't think that though though. I mean, you might think that the younger ones... It depends on when they got into swinging. Oh, that's true. Depends on how many, I think, how much experience, you know, years or whatever they've been in the lifestyle. That's a good point. That's a really good point. Because for us, it's, you know, of course, as we've said before, we've been in it 20 years. So for us, it's just like breathing kind of. Yeah, it's not even a question. No, it's not even a question. I mean, the only thing we really, it's just a matter of security and respect.

Those are two really big, valid points. And they overlap drastically. Sure. But, yeah, I think, you know, you're going to find, I think a lot of people tend to sway away from mature couples for the fact of like, and let's just, I'm going to generalize it. Let's pick somebody in their early 30s, a couple in their early 30s. Is they might, I want to play with a couple in their 50s. Because like, oh my god, they're old. Wrinkly. God willing, you're going to reach that age. But anyway. You're going to be wrinkly too. I think the physical thing might be kind of eternal for a younger couple.

That physical attraction. Because, again, as you get older, you might not be maintaining the same physical stature that a younger couple has. You might not be maintaining that same visual appearance. Right. Okay. But what people might not realize with a mature couple I don't know. visual appearance right okay um but what you people might not realize with a mature couple is one they're more settled they're they're they've been through um the uh ability or it's a word i want to use i thought you're gonna going to say the war. The war. Well, that too, yeah. I got the scars. The scars.

Well, a lot of times it's children are out of hand. Yeah, the more secure with themselves, absolutely. But the more in tune, I think, in the giving and receiving of pleasures. Quite possibly. They don't have the distractions though. I mean, people our age, if you have kids, they're usually older, I mean, and moved out. So you don't have the distraction of little kids. Yeah, you don't have like, oh, we can't get together this weekend. I have my kids and I can't get a babysitter who's busy this weekend or whatever. That's true. And some of them are retired. Now, we're not.

So they don't have the job thing to worry about as much. No, potentially. Potentially. I'm not saying like nothing against people that are retirement age. I'm almost retirement age, sweetheart. You are, you're a year away. Yeah, technically. I don't think I, see, just putting, I don't think I ever want to retire because I do like having that kind of structure. I do like having things busy in my life. So I like to play hard. I like to work hard, but I also like to play hard. So there is that balance. I like to fuck Walmart. Oh, well, that just goes without saying. That really does.

So, I mean, don't shy away from somebody just because they might be 20 years older than you. You don't know what they could teach you or what kind of fun you really could have. I mean, you can't always judge a book by its cover. That is for sure. We have played with a lot of people that were probably less than, quote, perfect, you know, in their body type. But again, we've talked about this in the past. You have to go by the personality. Do you click with them? Do you click?

I mean, in all honesty, if the room is completely dark and there's no light and you couldn't see what they look like is this someone that you think you would get the erotic energy from that you would want for sexual gratification that's a good way to put it medical huh wow man with that? No, it's true. I had someone text it to me. Yeah, okay, I'm sure you did. No, that makes sense. I know a lot of times, just like with food, you eat with your eyes, and a lot of times, you know, you see somebody who's very attractive physically, and you think, oh, well, duh, absolutely you.

And you think, oh, I want to play with them and then you start talking to them and they find out they're either you don't click or they're stuck up or whatever your personalities just don't mesh for whatever reason and so sometimes that that physical those physical attributes are I hate to say it they're only skin deep and sometimes a person that might not be quite so perfect is actually a whole lot more fun than somebody that is more attractive physically but has a not so great personality or maybe you're just into different things across the board you know if you're into i'll just use bdsm as a real quick one here and they're into it and you're not well i don't care how beautiful they are well if you're not gonna mess don't line up they're not gonna they're not gonna line up exactly but exactly you know um again the mature couple thing also i mean it's again they're gonna be more comfortable with themselves generally um so if you're somebody who is let's say early 30s and aren't necessarily overly comfortable with your body and you're trying to meet someone within your age group you're probably going to have a problem but if you if you say you reach out to someone let's say 50s and up believe me your little imperfections are not going to be a hill of beans to somebody in their 60s.

Whatever. Or whatever, exactly. But the, and again, let's say, again, we're running into, in today's environment due to whatever we're eating and whatever, some people are having performance issues. You're going to find mature couples are far more accepting of that. Yeah. And know how to deal with it and hopefully help you with it. That's true too. Oh, well, there was a performance issues could be due to the diet that you eat, what's in the food, of course. Well, whatever. I'm not going to get into the science of it. No. But it could be also that you're in a new environment. Sure.

No, eat, what's in the food, of course. Or whatever, I'm not going to get into the science of it. No, but it could be also that you're in a new environment. Sure, nervousness. I think they're more accepting, they're more accepting across the board. If you have some level of insecurity with like, oh, my God, I'm a little overweight, I have stretch marks, I have this, I have that, whatever.

Someone who is more mature in general not every case is going to be more like not even caring not even noticing more accepting because we have you know all of us have our own issues like well i got scars from that surgery yeah yeah i got stretch marks from where i had gained weight and lost wage or whatever it might be, yeah, it's like, well, I got scars from that surgery and that surgery. I got stretch marks from where I had gained weight and lost weight or whatever it might be. Had kids and da, yeah. It's less superficial. Yes. Wow. That's a big word. Good thing I'm sitting down.

I'm so glad you are. Yeah, you're right. I'm dizzy, but I'm sitting down. You're sitting down. That's why I'm. Yeah, like all those little imperfections that you got just from life, just from what life throws at you, surgeries and going through childbirth and all of these things that leave their mark on you. I mean, a lot of older people. What's that? Or marks. Or marks, yeah. Well, I think older people kind of uses them as like a badge of honor more than anything. You know, they're like, oh, yeah, I'd buy both of my knees replace. It's almost bragging rights. Almost, yeah, sure.

Yeah, like you're about to get some new scars from your shoulder surgery. Yep, and I'll just add them to the scars I have on my hips. I don't even see the scars on my hips. Scar on this hip, scar on that hip. Look, the ones under my breasts where I got the implants. Oh, no, I don't have them. Well, you have them on your nipples, right? Oh, my nipples. You can't see them. And the ones on my hips, you can't see them either. The one on my left, a little bit. The one on my right, I don't even see anymore. No, you can't. That's right.

But you sleep with that hip on the other side of the bed, so I don't see it. You don't see it. But even if you did, it's in that little group. I don't even see them anymore. That used to really bother me when I first got it done. But yeah, remember you take pictures and you like airbrush it out for certain images you wanted to do for this and that. And now I'm just like, who cares? Do you really see it? No, not really. Not really. No. I don't care. But even if you see it, I think more mature couples tend to not care. Right. I'm not going to say don't notice. They just don't care. Yeah.

It's life. It is life. I think, again, I'm not trying to alienate people in their 20s and up to the mid-30s. They could have their own scars. They get stuck a lot of times, not everyone, want to get stuck in that pretty people. Mentality? Yeah. Mood? That like, oh, I'm looking for someone who I think is as pretty as I am. Whether they are or not, it's up for another debate. Right, exactly.

Um, know there's a a realism about the swinger lifestyle with um people that are real comfortable with themselves they don't have to be perfect no and just i've talked about the one woman um who at the house parties i've played with a few times who is a larger woman. Right. She's lovely. She's a beautiful woman. She's more like Rubenesque. She has a lot of curves and big boobs. Whatever you want to call it. She's a great woman. Yeah. She's erotic. She's fun.

She's, you know, but I in unfortunately in the general scheme of things the average person would bypass her quickly right and that's very unfair yeah um and from the very first time i ever met her and playing wasn't on the table at the point, um, I found her attractive. Um, but there was, the situation wasn't there to, uh, introduce playing. Exactly. And, and then a few times later, I, I saw she was kind of being, um. Like overlooked. Yeah. Overlooked a better word than ignored. I'm going to say overlooked. And so I approached her and asked her to kiss her. And she says, yeah, I'd love that.

And it progressed quickly, very quickly. And she is now one of my favorites. It's funny how that can just turn around. I'm not a person who, like, well, I have a type. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm not like, oh, I'm not a, they have to be, you know, a supermodel's body or I'm not a chubby chaser or I'm not a, I chaser or I'm not a have to be long legs I'd like legs they all lead up to something very good hopefully but I'm more driven by the person mm-hmm and this person in particular is a great person and very erotic. And it's one of those hidden gems.

Yeah, don't let those hidden gems go just because maybe what you see on the outside isn't quite what you were expecting. Yeah. Because sometimes you open that book and holy cow, they're like a sexual dynamo. It's like Easter or Valentine's Day candy. Stop looking at the lid to see which candy is the one you want. Live a little. Grab one. Take a bite. See what you get. Stick your tongue in there. Stick your tongue in it. There you go. Hello. Frisco. Oh my gosh. This one's got a penis. That's not what I wanted. Or maybe I did. This one's got nuts. I'm allergic to nuts.

You got to poke them all to find the one you like. That's it. Yeah. But, yeah. Um, so I, I, I actually think, um, yeah. But, yeah, so I actually think I've been blessed with the ability or whatever to play with, as you have. Right. To play with anything from their 20s up until their 70s. Yes. And in all honesty, the best results have always been 50 plus for me um i can only speak for me yeah i do have now i i would what's that your show but um i would i would like to i would bet in majority of time um for men right performing that you that generally Bye-bye. doesn't matter.

For women, it doesn't matter. Yeah, in fact, the little fetishes that I have is I tend to go the opposite direction only because it seems like a lot of younger guys want to be with an older woman and I am there to, of course, accommodate them. So a lot of times I'm with guys half my age or younger.

And that's pretty fair to say or in their 40ss or 20 years younger than me that's not unusual you know that's probably more the the mean than than anything else is um guys 20 years my junior in their 40s i'm 64 so so i mean their 40s to me it's like i don't i feel like they're still in my age group in a way, even though they are 20 years younger than me. I still feel like they're... It's different in a sense of men need to be able to achieve an erected life. It's like I reached puberty all of a sudden. What happened to the voice there? But crackle, crackle. Yeah, there is that.

But again, you run into the problem is sometimes the younger guys don't have the sustainability. That's true too. They also, as much fun as they are that they able to get it up faster or they can, you know, that kind of a thing. A lot of time it's the skill level with being passionate and being romantic and you know their oral skills and teasing and all those things guys who can have sex and guys who can i i want to use a term but it's not really the term make love exactly okay yes they jump on like a bunny they get their dick in there. Yeah, they do.

Versus guys who know how to tease and foreplay and get a woman ready. And are concerned about your orgasm. Yes. And you'll find that, I think, with mature people. You'll see that a lot more. Like Jay, who was on the other show. She was here with me the other week, and I spent two hours with her on just her. And she wanted to play with me. And I was at a point where that day I had done stuff, my back hurt. That's almost every day sometimes. Well, but no, I had done some work around the house before she got here. And I'm like, listen, my back hurts, everything else.

I'm not going to be at the top of my game. So I turned her down. Whereas, again, there's some guys that are like, well, if I, younger guys especially, if I can't get mine, I'm not giving you yours. So. Yep. But we're not like that. We're more kind of like givers than we are takers. Yeah. And it's like, well, you enjoy giving pleasure to people. That is, well, women. Women. Yeah, please specify. You enjoy giving them pleasure. That is one of your little kinks. My fetish. Yeah, a little fetish there. My fetishes are simple.

I enjoy giving pleasure pleasure and I enjoy watching you give and receive pleasure. That's a simple thing. It is a simple thing. Yeah. But see, more mature people can... I think they can... They're a little more flexible with the ebb and flow of like, you know, maybe you won't be able to play or, you know, they'll be okay with that.

They won be like oh if i don't get mine i'm out of here it's like no they they might enjoy just giving their partner pleasure orally you know if things might not be working quite the way they would normally because of circumstances and just you know age and life and all these things that get in the way and i think they're more they're what's the word I want to say? They can adapt. They're more able to adapt to a situation that might not be ideal. Where, you know, a younger couple may or may not have that experience to draw from to be able to adapt to a changing sexual environment.

You know, if you do have, like you back hurt well it's like okay so you being plagued with might be off the table but that didn't stop playing it just stopped you had a either you have to modify it or maybe you know you don't play and you just gave her pleasure and and no she didn't hate that that's for sure you know what i'm saying she had she couldn't count how many orgasms like i said before you guys outside it was funny she had repetitive orgasms for two hours yeah so i mean that's yeah and i i just think an older couple was more more accommodating they're they're just more easygoing with what life throws at them, I think me if i'm wrong with this i think playing with an older couple is more real that's probably a good way to put it's definitely they're very it's not superficial it's not superficial that's true not that it has a lot of in-depth meaning but they're going to put more uh emphasis into sincerity of pleasing and receiving pleasure.

Sure. Yeah, I think that's a... You might not have the acrobatics. Yeah, I was just thinking that. Yeah, my acrobatic days are probably... Limited. Limited for now. For now, until your shoulders get done then I'm back in the saddle bring down that trapeze baby yeah well I put the safety nets back up I mean I guess the point of this show is to really think about you know if you're in the swinger lifestyle and you're you know younger than 40 We'll see you next time.

is to really think about, you know, if you're in the swinger lifestyle and you're, you know, younger than 40, consider, don't rule out people that are 50 plus. Yeah, I agree. I think there's a lot more there than you might realize. You know, stop going with like, wow, we're looking for Ken and Barbie. Yeah, there's. Okay. I mean, you're going to find people that are more secure with themselves. Right. More secure in their relationship. Mm-hmm.

And if you run into problems that happen with everyone, like we talked about, where maybe someone can't step up to the plate, they're going to be a lot more accommodating and they'll probably still call you for another play date. Right. Where sometimes the younger people are like, well, Bob couldn't really step to the plate. Exactly. You know, and I really didn't want to spend time with him trying to get him to show up to the plate. All right. well, Bob couldn't really step to the plate. Exactly.

You know, and I really didn't want to spend time with him trying to get him to show up to the plate, where a more mature couple is like, hey, man, I enjoyed working with him to do it. Right. Here's a great example. Do you remember that one very attractive younger couple where the man was afflicted with ALS?

she was very hot her husband was a very good looking man they were a great couple they were great and i i really appreciate that the fact that she was definitely wanted him to be a part of everything and he was actually a lot of fun to fuck he was he everything was working great but because of his disease there was a she had some ass muscles that ass butt plug band that is yeah it did she had his great butt plug that guy on the other side of the room has to get a fake eye now but that's that you know that hey you sign a waiver we come in, hey, you sign a waiver when you come in there that if you lose an eye due to somebody's butt plug hitting you in the face.

Did someone's butt plug hit a blinking butt plug? It specifies in there. Not a normal butt plug, but a blinking. Well, some of them, those butt plugs are, you know, rubber and soft. This one was metal. Yeah, well, it's a risk you take. It is a risk you have to take. You get in the line of a beautiful ass with a butt plug in it. With a butt plug in it. And a woman having an orgasm. Oh, my God. We can't be held responsible. We can't be held responsible. But I just found something like that. Some people, you might come across somebody who does have physical limitations. Come across?

No pun intended. But especially in this one, you know, he had a disease, you know, and he just made his speech more difficult, made his, you know... His life. His life across the board more difficult. Yeah. So were we bothered by that? Not even a little bit. It was just like, oh, how can we do this? Oh, we can... No, no problems with that. I mean, there was not even a thought on my mind when she's like, hey, this is my husband. I'm like, yeah, let's have some fun. Yeah, so don't rule out mature couples. No, I'm thinking. We really think, and we are not disparaging younger couples.

No, not at all. Okay. But I think in general, people are looking for the Ken and Barbie. And that's great in a fantasy world. Sure. It really is. But I think I got more gratification and more humility even from being with that couple. Because it's like it touched me deeper on a deeper sense than being with a pretty couple who everything was perfect, everything was wonderful. And that's great and that's a good time. But when you have somebody who they're not quite perfect or they have ailments or they have disabilities, it doesn't take it off the table at all. They've been through life.

They've been through life. Again, they have some wrinkles. Yes. You know, hey, and for women, don't be afraid to approach the other man and help get the wrinkles out there you go see that's that's being very helpful it's a t-shirt i think get the wrinkle out let's get the wrinkle out but oh my no so i think um yeah don't don't sell mature couples short, you know? Yeah, that's true. Even though I am short. I think you're going to find that you might be able to develop a better long-term relationship slash friendship with. Oh, absolutely. And, yeah, I just think. I think in older.

We're not saying this because we're mature. No, we're actually very immature, but that's a whole other podcast. If you listen to this podcast, you'll know. Especially me, not so much Donna. More me. Well, you are six years younger than I am. Do I have to bring that up? All the time. If I was two minutes older than you, you would be bringing up, oh, look, she's older than me. Yeah, you would. I'm not saying I would. Of course you would. If I was a second older than you, you'd be bringing that up. Yeah, I'm not arguing. I think a younger couple can learn a lot from an older couple.

Like you said, with a life experience is just in general. Sure. Especially if you hit hard times.'m not talking like financially necessarily, but it could be finances or it could be anything that impacts your sexual life. And an older couple might have probably already gone through it. Hey, you know, when that came about, we did this, or we found another way to go around it. Or, you know, you can take a bad situation and make it into something positive. Sure.

An older couple probably have gone down that route, probably have experienced it and came out on the other side stronger and better than they were before. I can't say that as a fact, but I bet you if they're still in their lifestyle, they've lived it. They've done it. Even a slight little erotic thing about if you're younger than them, you're younger than them, your mate who is younger than them potentially, giving someone older pleasure. That's very erotic. Or you giving someone older pleasure. But it's all about pleasure, happiness, fun, and friendship. Yeah. So with that, I am done.

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