In this episode of the Hot Wife Podcast, hosts Donna Lynn and Vince discuss various aspects of relationships, focusing on the concept of cheating. They explore the nuances of masturbation, fantasies, and the use of toys, questioning what constitutes cheating in different contexts. The conversation also touches on the growth of their podcast and the challenges they face, all while maintaining a humorous and candid tone. In this conversation, the speakers explore the complexities of cheating in modern relationships, discussing various scenarios such as webcam interactions, strip clubs, couch dances, and one-night stands. They delve into the gray areas of what constitutes cheating, emphasizing the importance of communication and understanding in relationships. The discussion also touches on the evolving definitions of infidelity in the context of technology and personal boundaries. In this conversation, the speakers delve into various aspects of relationships, particularly focusing on phone sex, the definition of cheating, and the importance of transparency and trust in relationships. They discuss the nuances of possessiveness and how it can lead to self-fulfilling prophecies in relationships. The conversation also touches on the evolving nature of relationships and the importance of setting boundaries before making serious commitments. The speakers conclude with thoughts on their podcast and future plans.TakeawaysThe podcast serves as a therapeutic outlet for the hosts.Masturbation and fantasies can enhance sexual experiences without being considered cheating.Insecurities in relationships can lead to misunderstandings about cheating.Using toys in the bedroom is not cheating, but a sign of personal security.Webcam interactions raise questions about emotional fidelity and cheating.Communication is key in understanding each other's needs and fantasies.The hosts emphasize the importance of consent and mutual understanding in relationships.Cheating is often more about emotional connection than physical actions.The podcast encourages listeners to reflect on their own definitions of cheating.Humor plays a significant role in discussing sensitive topics like cheating. Understanding cheating varies from person to person.Webcam interactions can be seen as cheating by some.Strip clubs are often viewed as entertainment rather than infidelity.Couch dances introduce a gray area in cheating definitions.One-night stands are generally considered cheating.Sexting and phone sex blur the lines of fidelity.Communication is key in defining boundaries in relationships.Different perspectives on cheating can lead to misunderstandings.People need to feel secure in their relationships to avoid jealousy.The definition of cheating is evolving with technology. Phone sex can be a preferred choice for some.Cheating is often defined by skin-to-skin contact.Transparency in relationships is crucial to avoid cheating.Possessiveness can lead to negative outcomes in relationships.Setting boundaries is important before serious commitments.Younger generations are more open to diverse relationship styles.Understanding what constitutes cheating varies by individual.Communication is key to maintaining trust in relationships.The podcast aims to explore and discuss relationship dynamics.Future plans include expanding their brand and merchandise.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/hot-wife-podcast-and-the-swinger-lifestyle--5343522/support. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Transcript
Hi, this is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wife podcast. Hello, everybody. This is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot hot white podcast and vince is over there making faces and doing all kinds of silly things as the intro is playing uh he made this uh he took his hands and like from his head like making my like my head's getting bigger and bigger because it's my hot white podcast when we recorded that that was just supposed to be a joke I was just goofing just to see it, but we held on to it, so. It worked. It worked, so. Somehow it didn't sound right. Vince's Hot Husband Podcast. What?
No one would listen. Oh, come on. I think that's not good. You wouldn't even listen. What the fuck are you talking about? Jesus Christ. Well, that's true. Oh, come on. It would be so awesome. Hot Husband, you know. Yes. Podcast. It would be so rockin' hot, honey. Yep. Come on, trying here. Come on, work with me a little bit. I'm trying to find something interesting there. I can't. I got nothing. Got nothing, huh? I've drawn a blank. So anyway, so we're actually recording this a little bit earlier in the week. We just released the podcast today. This is today's Thursday.
So the podcast that we recorded last or prior to this, either way you want to look at it, is our 20-year review. Yes. And I want to reflect back on that in a sense of we have put the challenge out to you people to tell a friend to get them to listen and i'm going to tell all the new people same challenge ask you to just find one person or more try to find one person that might have interest that you know in the podcast and turn them on to it because some of you have been doing a great job our numbers are at an all time high yes we sit every day and I'm like, what the fuck?
Are we giving away something that I don't know about? I don't know. Besides venereal diseases. Oh, ouch. Kidding, kidding. I know. You don't even joke about that. But we do anyway. We don't care. Yeah. We like to share. Just kidding. So nice. We don't share that. Oh my God. We keep them them to ourselves so but uh yeah so no i want to thank everyone for that um the numbers are for two people who just started this thing just for shits and giggles and said we'll do it see if we can help promote donna's uh content at you know hot wife donna win.com um what happens with, you know, the podcast.
See if we can use that to cross-promote. And it's done that, but it's also, it's another outlet. This is really therapy for us. It is therapy for us. And we both need therapy, so. Seriously, this is a little cheaper, though, I'm thinking. Yeah, yeah. And a lot more fun. Yeah. So, again, thanks, everyone, for that. And, again, right off the bat, I'm going to mention Spunk Lube. Make sure if you haven't tried it, you do. It's awesome. If you need lubricant, personal lubricant, it is a great product, first off. Right. You know, they have various different ones.
You're going to go to spunklube.com, S-P-U-N-K-L-U-B-E.com. It's a great, great product. They have different kinds, you know, and one of the cool things is it looks like cum. Spunk. Spunk, that's the name. So, you know, you can have fun with that aspect too. You know, you can maybe live out some fantasies of, you know, if your wife wanted to see what it was like to get a big bukkake kind of load, you know, you could fantasize with that shit. Oh, that's true, or a big giant cream pie or whatever.
Yeah, you want to, you know, see her pussy dripping with, you know, spunk, you know, pump it in there and you could, you know, see what it looks like if she was to have received a massive spunk load. Not everybody can do that, so this is a nice way to... Not to mention, just saying, let's pretend you have a lot of spunk lube in the pussy and all of a sudden it slips out and goes someplace else, a little less likely she might mind. All of a sudden it's just going to slide right the fuck in there. Pretty much. And that is pun intended. So anyway. Oh, I got a visual there.
I have a video I can show you. Yeah, I don't need to just fantasize about it or wonder what it might look like. It'll just like, let's go to the video, shall we? Here's the John Madden board. And over here, she does this. And the dick goes here and runs on the round end right into her asshole. And it's in there. Deep. It's going deep. It's going deep. Well, as deep as you can take it. Yeah. So much for the tight end in that play. That's true. She's now a wide receiver. Definitely wider. Way wider. And I'm not a sports guy. So, anyway. Nope. Not even a little bit.
So kind of threw his podcast together last minute because we have a busy weekend. Unfortunately not all play. There will be a new play date on Sunday for Donna. Yay. He sounds fun. He's coming two hours. Really? Two hours one way to see you. God. Why would people do that? That's just ridiculous. I'd live with you. Yeah I know. You wouldn't even walk across the street to get to me. So I understand that. just ridiculous. I live with you. Yeah, I know. You wouldn't even walk across the street to get to me. So I understand that. I don't even listen to you.
You don't even roll over in bed to get to me. Can you say something? Exactly. What's that mace you keep spraying in my face? Oh, come on. And you keep telling me that's not supposed to be an aphrodisiac. And I'm like, oh, okay. I thought it was. I thought that was part of our four-boy. Could be. So came up like, oh, okay. I thought it was. I thought that was part of our four-play. Could be. So came up with a topic last minute. We said, hey, let's do a podcast. The conversation of what topic? It wasn't even part of the conversation. It wasn't what. Nope. So we sat down, put the headphones on.
She goes, what are we talking about? And I said, well, actually, on the way home from work, I came up with something that my ex-wife used to give me shit about. I know, so many things. Oh, my God. Yeah, well, you say that I do, too, so maybe there's a reason. That's another show. What's the commonality between your ex and me? It's not weight, that's for sure. It's you. It's you. Maybe you're the problem. You both have tits. You both have a pussy. You both are, you know. Okay. Whatever chromosomes you guys have, I'm not sure. A, B, or C, D, or X, M, or Y, B, or whatever the fuck it is.
I'm not sure anymore. Oh, X, X, X, X. That's what we're trying to do is porn, baby. That's X, X, X. No'm not sure anymore. X, X, X, X. That's what we're trying to do is porn, baby. That's X, X, X. Oh, that's old Mike. Anyway, so the concept is my ex-wife used to say that it was cheating if you masturbated. So the concept for today's topic is, is that cheating? And I'm not talking about just masturbation. Exactly. We're going to, we'll talk about different aspects.
So, so if someone, um, you're involved with is masturbate, whether it be to porn, whether it be a magazine, a video, is that cheating to you that they're, they're thinking or fantasizing of someone else. Is that cheating to you? And let's pretend, let's back off the swinging world. Let's go to the vanilla world. It's still no. Okay. It's still no. There's no wrong answer. I'm asking your opinion. No, it's not cheating because you're not physically breaking the plane. First of all, okay, we'll pretend we're not in the swing room. There's a plane involved? Yeah, there's a plane involved.
You're not touching anybody else. You have to have a license? Yeah. Oh. Go ahead. Uh-oh. She's going to yell at me about something. No. There's even women that get upset when they have a dream that their husband is cheated on them. Yeah, well, we'll cover all that shit. It's like, we're neurotic. That's craziness there.
there yeah we're just stating our opinion but it's the truth um that doesn't make any sense but that's the thing like my ex was like oh you're fantasizing about someone else it's like the best part of sex is fantasizing exactly and they and she was too dumb to realize that if i am getting aroused whether it be be by somebody else or not, I mean, I didn't cheat on her and I should have, that ultimately she's benefiting from it because I'm like, hey, baby, I fantasize you're skinny.
Well, she might be thinking, well, you'd rather be with that person than be with me and i'm just i mean kate beckinsale just hasn't come to the realization that she needs to be with me well so until that time i was stuck with her exactly you're gonna be waiting a long time though huh i keep reaching out to her and her publicist keeps saying or whatever i have her autograph no you don't On a restraining order. Oh, stop. That's what she said. That's what she said. That's exactly what the restraining order says.
But, yeah, no, I don't think, you know, now if you take the fantasy of somebody's like looking at video, and let's say they fall in love with some porn star who's got these gigantic tits, bigger than beach balls, has all sorts of tattoos or whatever, and they keep saying to their wife, can we get you some big implants? And you're like, well, why? Well, you know, busty, lusty water tanks has them. Water tanks. I want you to be like busty, lusty water tanks. It's like, well, what's wrong with my tits? Oh, no, honey, it's fine. They drag behind you.
Because I'm with you, I always think of breakfast. Pancakes I always think of like udders Two fried eggs Of course, then she goes, yeah, and I have the little breakfast sausage Vienna sausage You know, you just jumped at that one too quick I know You just really should have. Really, you just really should have looked away when you said that. Oh, sorry. That would have made me feel a little better. A little better. I should have, like, thought it through a little bit, like I was pondering.
And in case you're wondering, as we're sitting here in our studio, she actually did look away just there when I said that. Yeah, I'm just looking away. Like, we really know. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, you know, if you want to take it that way, you might be able to say it was cheating. If all of a sudden you want your significant other to be more like the one you're fantasizing over. Yeah, but those are. It's not cheating. It's just rude. It is just rude.
It's not cheating, but it is rude it's it you can't expect um your significant other to change everything in their life to meet your fantasy unlike what you do shut up sorry i'll see i'll change you so i didn't tell you you could say that yeah do you this is something that's slightly off topic but do you remember um in the mall they had those glamour shots yeah and they get you all dot up and they you know they put all kinds of makeup photography on steroids on steroids it was serious photography but they put the makeup on you yeah and you had boas well there was one girl but i don't like snakes well hold on shut up there's one girl her boyfriend got there this this you know glamour shots package and she got it done well after that he's loved the pictures which is great but after that he goes you have to look like this all the time it's like that's and i bet you she found a picture of me and said to him you have to look like this that's exactly what you did oh how did you know that you must know these people so many women have done that oh my is my mic um i'm not hearing myself is my mic you just no i didn't your mic's still on okay no i hear you fine i think it's your headphones are starting to cut in and out to get your headphones or new wire because when uh what's her face sat there when mickey sat there she kept saying it kept coming in and out okay maybe it's my headphones So we'll have to change the headphones on you yeah eventually um but anyway um but yeah those kind of goals are unattainable i mean make your significant other look like a porn star or whatever or whatever your fantasy is is it looks like every 1980s uh graduation yeah exactly that's what it looks like big hair too much makeup and a really bad background yeah yeah That's what it looked like.
Big hair. Too much makeup and a really bad background. Yeah, yeah. That's what it looks like. It's like, I want you to look like you're stuck in the 80s. But people loved them. I mean. Oh, I remember seeing girls in school that, you know, again, I graduated in 84. So, you know, that was the 80s thing. And I think it died out early 90s. Yeah. But it was Sears photography with fucking makeup. Lots of makeup. I mean, they had all kinds of props and this and that, and it was fun, and it was kind of sexy, a little bit edgy for the time.
It's like those ones they have in the resort areas where you go down and dress like the Wild West. Like Wild West. Really? Can you imagine, like, I want you to dress like Annie Oakley all the time. Well, I'd like to see in a corset all the time, yeah. I was thinking about the chaps. I don't know. I was like, really? Can you imagine, like, I want you to dress like Annie Oakley all the time. Well, I'd like to see in a corset all the time, yeah. I was thinking about the chaps. A corset with chaps, that works. No, it doesn't. Of course, it's just the thing from, like, the waistline up, right?
Yeah, but, you know. Yeah, and then you have assless chaps. Yeah, sexy. All chaps are assless. That's what makes them chaps. I know that. Just saying. Okay. I just don't think it would go together. But, okay, maybe I'm wrong. I don just saying. Okay. I just don't think it would go together. But okay, maybe I'm wrong. It's a look. It's a look. You don't like it when I wear it, but yeah. No, you're so much better than the stockings. You're just upset that when I wear the thong, it covers me either way. Yeah, that upsets me. Oh, I thought you were jealous. Never mind. Oh, man. So, I mean...
Okay, so back to the topic of cheating. So, you know, now, I guess if your significant other would rather masturbate than be with you, would that be cheating?
No, it's not that it's cheating, but it i'm saying they're thinking about the same thing let's pretend they find some porn star right and that or or some fetish right go with that either way but that's all they can do you know that that's all that gets them there is the guy wants to see pegging i don't know whatever yeah whatever i don't know why that would anyway um but and he's like, no, the only thing that gets me off is like i can only i can only come by jerking off to to watching you know um a 20 year old guy with a 90 year old woman that's all i can come to but it's still not cheating it's just that there's something lacking in their relationship it's not cheating until he goes out and actually does something physical with somebody else.
It's really not cheating. I'm just looking at the topic because there are women and men. How many times have you heard, okay, the next part of is it cheating is toys for women. Ah, yeah. We've heard countless times.
Girls are not allowed, women are not allowed to have vibrators and stuff because their husband or boyfriend or whatever doesn't let them have it so they consider that cheating because they're afraid that that is going to replace them and they have a lot more they have a lot more problems with the relationship than they know about no, using toys is not cheating well, but we're exploring this,. There might be people listening to the show that feel that's the truth. I don't know. I'm just saying it's a matter of your own security. The same as swinging is a matter of security. I agree.
You have to be secure with yourself before you can do it. And these guys that say, oh, you don't use a toy because then you don't need me. It's like, oh, yeah, my vibrator is going to cut the lawn. The lawn is not going to cut itself, motherfucker. Oh, yeah, my vibrator is going to take the trash out. Oh, why do I need you? Thank you.
oh you don't use a toy because you know then you don't need me it's like oh yeah my vibrator is going to cut the lawn's not going to cut itself yeah no oh yeah my vibrator is going to take the trash out oh why do i need you my vibrator is going to bring in another income it might if you do it on video true but i mean groceries a couple weeks yeah well maybe you know do you maybe need to step it up a little bit and you know well i Well, I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying. But people think. Yeah. Yeah, but people's insecurities. It's their insecurities. I agree. Okay, so... 100% there.
Yeah, so, I mean, people... Okay, if your husband... Okay. And I swear to God, I don't have one that you know of. Has a blow-up doll. And they're busy fucking a balloon. So that's what's floating in the pool. That's Ethel. Shut up. Oh. Would you quit flipping her over face down because she takes on water and sinks. I want to see the loving anus that she has. That's what it says on the box. Just don't mind the little shims I have in there. The little shims. Get a tight fit. The embarrassing part is where I have to take it to the car wash and hose it out. That would be funny. Tied to the roof.
I have to put a head first because I put it the other way around. It fills up with the loving ass and pussy fill over there and blows off the top of the truck. Loving anus.
I know it was only on every woman I'd love you not to put your dick in my anus but so if your husband or even your wife they have them for women too they have the male dolls if they prefer fucking a balloon I could call it these dolls they'd rather fuck a doll so that they're fulfilling their real fantasy it's easier for them to fantasize that that is the person of their fantasy than it is to fuck you it's not cheating but there's definitely a problem with their relationship at that point again we're we're stating our opinions. No, I don't think it's cheating.
I don't think it's cheating, but I do think it is a red flag. No, it's a red flag that something is amiss in the relationship. Especially when you have a male blow-up doll and you're getting pegged by your male blow-up doll. The same happened once. I don't even know how you would do that. They shipped me the wrong one and It attacked me. It attacked you? 17 times. What did you do? Tie it to the wall? Just keep, you know. It tied itself. I didn't do it. Bouncing into it? Just because it was wearing prison garb. I don't know about that. And I took my tin cup and rattled across the bars.
Like, stop, stop. Sorry help i don't i don't think this kind of therapy is even making a dent you need i'm just trying i'm taking notes over here if what i'm doing is actually cheating so i don't care what you do that's a problem i just i just all right so it makes you happy honey all right so let's move on to other topics then. Okay. On the topic of, is this cheating? So a guy, and you've had plenty of this experience. Oh, have I? A guy goes to a webcam site. Oh. And is out talking with a live girl. And she masturbates and he masturbates and they talk dirty to each other. Is that cheating?
No. Well, you're just trying to get customers, I understand. It's still not cheating, though. Is it? I don't know. No. You're expressing your opinion. I'm trying to look at it from all the different ways. Well, you're still not touching that person. The person that is represented or how that other person represents themselves as a webcam quote model, of course you're going to be like, yeah, hey baby, you got the biggest dick. They're going to say whatever they want you to hear. That's what they're going to tell you. I do all the time. So it's still not cheating.
How much do you charge the other guys for webcam? Not as much as I charge you. Fuck. And I bought the frequent masturbators call. Well, you know. Wow. Okay. You're the VIP. VIP. You gave me the where's your P.
Where's yourp um but no again instead you don't look at it just from your end of things right i mean i can understand more where a woman could sit there and say if the husband was going to to a webcam site and having dirty talk and masturbating that could technically be considered cheating i don't find it cheating personally right i am just saying i can understand where that might be if it goes one step further let's say they do a session together and he gets very aroused and he loves it if he does it again and says hey can we do a meetup i get that all the time hey where can we do a meetup where can we do a meetup so then then it becomes a precursor to cheating then you've planted that seed do you know where saskatchewan is saskatoon saskatchewan saskatchewan is yeah we'llan is there.
Okay. So, um, but yeah, if you can actually meet the person, no, I, I mean, I, I don't think it's cheating on my personally, but again, we're looking at things a lot more open-minded than I'm trying to look at it from the vanilla person if you're in a relationship where you're committed to each other and you think that you know she should think the sun rises and sets by you and vice versa right and pretend pretend i know you don't um yeah i guess i guess this one would definitely be more on the lines with cheating because you are with a real live person, not your fantasy.
Webcams with dead girls suck. I was thinking like this. Because you sit there and you burn through the money like, honey, honey, can you talk to me? Show me something. Oh, your arm fell off. Not so good. No, I mean, it's not like a pre-recorded video. It is a live person. Well, then you're just watching a movie. You're not, you know. So this definitely could be more on the lines with cheating. But again, you're in different parts of the world. You're in different. I mean, you can't touch them.
Okay, well, now let's go to the next one okay you know this one too well i do going to the strip club ah so now we're faced with watching the girl dance sure she comes down now we're going to speak to pennsylvania law we can't speak to other states okay i've got've got enough problems with Pennsylvania law. They come down. You come down off the stage. You walk around. The guy puts whatever the denomination is nowadays, and he has it in his fingers, and you squeeze your tits to take it out of his hand, or he tucks it in your G-string string or whatever. Is that part cheating?
He has limited contact. Hmm. No. Okay. I'm with you on that. Well, I look at it strictly from, I mean, could there be a hookup that happens? No, I'm not talking hookup. I'm not talking hookup. In all honesty, 99.9% of the guys going to a titty bar are not going to hook up with a dancer. I agree with that. Okay. I'll agree with that. Not in a legal manner. I'm sure there are some dancers that, you know, for the right dollar figure that you can rent them. Exactly. Okay. But here's the thing.
The girls on the stage, for a lot of the guys, this is how one guy explained to me, it's just live television. It's just eye candy. They appreciate watching pretty girls. It's nice. I support that. It's definitely titillating to some degree. Pun intended. Yeah, to some degree. And you're getting tipped just to entertain them.
No i support that 110 percent it's eye candy yeah and and the fact you know that's the thing is with like a webcam i could see i mean i've never done one i've seen you do bunches bunches um i could see where you could still look at that like it's almost like watching a movie because you can't touch or whatever. But, yeah, when they're still, yeah, you can actually smell them when they fart. Yeah. It's happened. Don't ask me how. I don't know. Anyway. So, yeah, I mean, it's definitely getting closer, that's for sure. And then you have the couch stands where you're grinding around.
Well, that's where we're going next. Now, that's the different one. I wanted to clear up the easy part. You know, out there at the bar where the bouncers are, the bartenders are. Right. And, you know, that part, you know, again, speaking to Pennsylvania law. Right. If it's a law-abiding type bar, you're not allowed to. Or at least when I was dancing, you weren't allowed to be grouped a whole lot on the outside. No. You know. Yeah. And, you know, one month you hear that the girls have to wear pasties over the nipples. The next month they don't have to. Have to. And it's like.
I don't know where it is nowadays. I don't care where it is nowadays. I don't even know. I have no idea anymore. Yeah. It's out of my realm. I don't have to worry about that. Yeah. So now we move into the couch dance room okay i'm gonna say right off the bat that's cheating before we even talk about it that's real close well okay talking to pennsylvania law again all right technically the not allowed to touch. Technically, he's not allowed to. Okay. But the girl can basically dry hump him. Yep. It's a dry fuck. So now there is technically touching. Yeah. There is direct stimulation. Yes.
Not just visual. Right, right.
You know, she could take her, you know, her thong-clad thong clad bottom right e-string clad bottom whatever right and you made guys come without touching them oh without using my hands yes without using your hands yeah just using rubbing your ass up and down on their crotch on their pants and their pants were all the way up yep no problem yep so that cheating uh yeah i could see that being cheating but again there's no you're not breaking the plane that's the only thing that's a saving grace nothing went inside of anything else so okay prior to us getting together when you were in a vanilla relationship for all int intents and purposes, if one of your, I'll call them significant others at that time, if they had come home and said that they had gone and some girl made them come like that, crying on them, would you have been upset?
Well, I know that I had done it to other guys, so it would be hard for me to get upset because I'm doing the same thing. Okay. So it would have been, I've probably been like, what are you spending your money for? I'll do it for nothing. Whoa, whoa. Can I get that in writing? I have that on tape. Yeah, yeah, you do. I got that recorded now. Yeah, you do. I'm going to start saving money. Oh, there you go. I can get rid of the pile of 20s next to the bed. Damn it. And actually, you know, if you do that once in a while, it probably wouldn't be a big deal.
It's like when you start, you know, spending your entire week's wages, then it becomes a problem. Yeah, you go tap into your credit card. Credit cards. Talking about her old boyfriend. Yep. Taking loans on credit cards that weren't his. Exactly. Anyway. That's how I I have the problem. Yeah, I could see... I mean, I personally think at that point when you're getting more direct stimulation... Sure. You know, where there is contact of sorts. Right, right. Yeah. That could be considered cheating, I guess, to some degree. Yeah, I could see that. Yeah. Oh, my God, I'm a homewrecker.
I was a homewrecker. You still are sometimes. Yeah, sometimes. Sometimes you don't find out afterwards. Yeah. Yeah, that's very deceitful. People should be more transparent. Well, so yeah, I mean, I mean, that's, um, I can't think of other situations that would be technically someone could see as cheating. Well, we could take the, I mean, my ex-wife went as far as like pretty women on TV. You don't look at that. Yeah. But then she'd see some hot, like, oh, I want to fuck him. And it's like, wait a minute. I just looked at a girl in a commercial wearing a bikini and you're like, stop looking.
That's because she was a fat cunt. But if she saw like some hot actor, oh, I'd fuck him. It's like, wait a minute. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Something like that. But yeah, so again, I think that's where people need to become more secure in themselves. Yeah, I mean, up to that point, the chances of them having an actual relationship with that other person is slim to none. Okay, so by that theory, are you saying a quick one-night stand is okay? You're out with some girlfriends. Okay, let's pretend we're vanilla.
we're vanilla right okay and you go out with some girlfriends celebrating whatever bridal shower right and you guys are at a bar drinking and some guy starts talking to you and flirting with you and he's a good looking guy and he says hey you know you know, I'd love to take you out in the parking lot. Let's go have some fun. You go out and do it. Is that cheating? Yeah, I guess at that point it definitely is. Yeah. But I meant like, you know, somebody on a webcam, the chances of you actually meeting them.
Even a dancer, I mean, the chance of them actually going home with you is, I mean, there is that rare occasion. It happens, but you've got to be something special. Yeah, in 20 years, I think. Or have a lot of money. Yeah. In 20 years, I don't, I think, my ex-boyfriend was my one-night stand, and there might have been one or two others, so I wasn't, you know, not that I didn't do that, but in 20 years, three guys. Yeah. Now you do that in a good weekend. Yes, yeah. I want a slow weekend. That's not true. I don't have that much time on the weekends. I wish I did, man.
The other weekend you did three guys. Oh, yeah, but that's at a party. That was different. Yeah, I know. That was fun.
But, yeah, yeah I mean and that's where it's nice again getting back to the swinging world which is what the show is kind of about is that you have that freedom oh yeah as long as everybody's on board with it and I actually think we tend to take more pleasure in our partner's pleasure yeah yeah I agree yeah so if one of us went to a you went to a chippendale show i don't even know if they're still around or whatever i mean you married one but it's different yeah what's the wafting about that no i said well i don't want to go out for chippendales when I have one right across the room from me?
Chippin' Wales. But, so, Janice wants a picture of me. Yeah, I read that. She'd be very disappointed. Why would you give that up? She did not send you any pictures of herself. So, there you go. Tit for tat. And I do need to. she doesn't want to see my tit does she no i want to see her tits oh yeah she says she has nice ones yeah see i'm calling her bluff if you're listening if you listen this far janice i'm calling your bluff don't tell me don't tell me you have some good pictures you have a cell phone yep it's gonna take what weeks to take a picture oh come. Uh-huh. I'll be on to you, Janice.
We've been down this road before. And I'll be off real quick, but I'll be on to you. Yeah, so, I mean, that's where one of the beautiful things about if you're in a relationship that you both are comfortable, that you both acknowledge that you can have desires and stuff with about other people right and still come home and be greatly disappointed you shouldn't say that i mean um happy very happy yeah very happy i'm greatly disappointed oh my god you're terrible but um yeah i mean so people i mean i mean everybody's gonna have their own definition terrible.
But, yeah, I mean, so people, I mean, everybody's going to have their own definition of cheating. Oh, yeah, absolutely. You can't think about anybody else. I mean, oh, my God. You talk to that girl at work with, you know, I mean, there's all sorts of levels of people go off the handle about cheating that are just stupid. There's other people in the world who don't have contact. You don't do it, but, I mean, like, my ex-wife was one that was like, I would say, oh, yeah, we just hired this girl at work, you know, I'm going to go down. That are just stupid.
There's other people in the world who don't have contact. You don't do it, but I mean, like, my ex-wife was one that was like, I would say, oh, yeah, we just hired this girl at work. You know, her name's Jane. What's she look like? Okay, decent-looking girl. Huh, she turning you on? It's like, what part of me saying we hired a new girl makes you think I'm fired up? You know?
It's like, no, we only hire battle axes that's it you know and her pussy hair went all comes all the way up to her shirt you know she looks like an italian guy with just you know and she's got one tit hanging out the one pant cuff one out the shirt shirt sleeve. Oh. Oh, in that case, that's fine. I don't know how do you respond to that because I'm shaking my head. I don't know. Well, that's why I'm with you. That's one of the many reasons I'm with you and not her. You're going to have conversations and some kind of relationships outside of your marital relationship.
Oh, if I was still married to my ex, God forbid, and this podcast was going on, but it wasn't us, it was just somebody else doing this podcast, and she found out I listened to it, my ex would have considered this cheating. Oh, my God. And that's why you're not with her anymore's one of the many many reasons one of the 300 pound reasons 300 pound reasons oh my god oh 300 and counting whatever i'm not counting but uh yeah no it was just something i thought about on the way home today I was was like, okay, we'll do a podcast, and what would be a good topic?
You know, it's something we haven't really covered yet. Yeah, is it cheating? You know, so it's like, you know, is it cheating? What, you know, different, and the things nowadays, like, okay, sexting. Is that cheating? Well, I figured that's kind of like the same thing is yeah it is like a video chat or something like that i mean we've talked about the ghosting thing to the cows come home so i wonder are these people in a relationship and that's their whole thing is they join these websites and pay all kinds of money oh someone wants to fuck me. Oh, my God, but I can't go do it.
If I get caught, my fucking life will be ruined. But it's so hot. It could happen. It got me so close that I actually could go fuck them. Oh, my God, that's so hot. I don't know. Is that what maybe it is? Wouldn't it be a lot harder if you actually went and did it? But they can't get in trouble if they don't go do it. That's true. Or minimal trouble. Yeah, minimal trouble. You know? Yeah. It also could be just a thrill of the fantasy. Like you always say fantasy is better than reality. What I'm saying is that I could go do it the day that this woman wants me. Right.
You know, I'd fuck her in front of her husband and they're going to videotape it. It's so hot. But yeah, I'd fuck her in front of her husband, and they're going to videotape it. And it's so hot. But, yeah, I'm not going. It's kind of a big letdown. In so many ways. Oh, my God. It's like, yeah, and some of the sex thing we were doing, it was going on and on. I mean. I talked to that guy, one guy, for like an hour, over an hour on the phone. On the phone. It was a great conversation, and he was like, oh, yeah, man, I want to do this to you, I want to do that to you.
And I'm like, what about Donna? He goes, well, when I'm telling you. I don't know if she has to be there. Someone's got to run the camera. There you go. Yeah, and then they just, whew, falls off. Yeah, then the next day. Well, the son of a bitch actually texted us a message. Reached out to you. Yeah. I think he did it by mistake. Because he was like, hey, how's it going? I was like, I said, what do you want? He goes, who's this? Ah, and you're like, yeah. I said, yeah. We talked to you for over an hour on the phone, and then you fucking stood us up. Crickets, crickets.
Let me see if I can guess which button. Nope, that wasn't it. Nope. That one. You can label them for fuck's sake, label them. I want to find new comments. I know it's not this one. God! That's the only one you do know. Jesus, Mary Joseph. This is not a religious show, okay?
Yeah, but I think he he did like reach out by mistake yes he did and he's now blocked yeah it's a shame because i enjoy talking to him i feel bad well you talk to me i'm an asshole when you talk to another asshole that's cheating oh that's cheating i'm your only asshole i already have my own you keep telling me you you keep telling me i'm the biggest asshole so it's like there's no one better than me you are the biggest and the You're the best, baby. Yeah, yeah, the biggest answer. If you're going to. I already have my own asshole. You keep telling me I'm the biggest asshole.
So it's like, there's no one better than me. You are the biggest and the best, baby. Yeah, I'm the biggest asshole. If you're going to do it, you know. You have no other asshole other than me. That's right. The Ten Commandments. No other asshole other than you. You're a jealous asshole. Wow. You will not covet thy neighbor's asshole. Thou should not steal assholes. Oh, now we're going to get all religious? I really don't think the way I'm talking is religious, but okay. Not even close. Nope. Oh, my gosh.
But anyway, so that was my concept for the, I mean, anything i mean sexting how about phone sex and that's the same as sexting i'm just saying but now you're talking with someone directly it's not it's a little more you know at least when you're on the phone with someone you hear a voice yes you know in all fairness you could be sexting someone you don't know if it's a guy girl oh that's true of course it depends who you're trying to talk to that's true you know yeah same thing with the phone hi i'm susan yeah i find you hot joe well same thing with phone sex i mean they could have a very nice voice and you had this mental image of them that aerosmith video yes exactly she's 300 pounder ironing you know with a kid with a kid and but during most ofmith video.
Yes, exactly. She's a 300-pounder ironing, you know. With a kid. With a kid. But during most of the video, she's this hot thing. Yep, yep. I guess... See, that's a fantasy I went, any women who listen to the show? Right. Picture me, 180 pounds, washboard abs. I can't wear shorts above my knee because my dick hangs out. Bun buns you can break walnuts with arms 30 inch python arms oh my goodness and then go 180 degrees and that's me hey i'll turn your mic right off i know you will you'll turn me right off and you do Every night, as I do. Get out of the shower, and you're hey, hey.
I'll turn your mic right off. I know you will. You'll turn me right off, and you do. Every night, yes, I do. Get out of the shower, and you're like, dear God, warn me. And then you turn around, and you're like, motherfucker, there's a mirror. I can still see you. Turn the lights off. It's not that bad. It's not bad. Not that bad. Hey, thanks. Donna! Bitch. I don't know how to respond to that. No matter how I respond to that, I was going to get shit for it. So I might as well just go with the first thing. But, yeah, I guess phone sex. Again, with phone sex. There's no direct contact. I get it.
But there could be. But it depends. Is it someone you're contacting supposedly local? Yeah. Or is it through one of these numbers you got out of the back of a magazine? Exactly, 900 number or whatever. Yeah, on page 82. Third article down, one over to the left. Oh, my God. Not that I've called that one much. I don't even know if they even have those 900 numbers anymore. I don't think they do. They might. I'm sure there's still people that want that. I mean, that's a fetish. Yeah, it is a fetish.
When I was doing the whole sexed panther thing, I would have guys that just wanted to do the phone instead of the, had the opportunity to do video, but they chose phone. Well, we've done some videos where we simulate where, like, you're playing with someone. You're not simulating it. You actually are. But, like, you're calling me like I'm away someplace. Right, exactly. And, you know, guys like that. That fantasy of, you know, that is a version, like, two shows ago of the cuckolding. Yeah. You know, of sorts. I mean, not the humiliation part, but. Oh, well, let's go.
of you know that is a version like two shows ago of the cuckolding you know of sorts I mean not the humiliation part but like you said there's so many forms of cuckolding that's one aspect of it but yeah I guess anytime you can actually meet a person in flesh to flesh contact so that's our standard do what we would say is on the down the road to cheating to cheating the criteria is skin to skin skin to skin okay and the other partner has no cog you know no no right idea you're doing it you're not cognitive of the right okay well and the thing Right.
The thing is, if you stimulate them and you're deliberately stimulating them, that's cheating. Oh, stop it. T-I-F. Oh, my God. I'm trying to take notes. Cognitive? No. N? No? No. Didn't see that in there. Okay. Yeah, I mean, everybody's going to have their, you know, some women like cheating as you just looking in the direction of another woman. You're thinking about somebody. Did you breathe the air that another woman had taken into her lungs? You cheating bastard. At that point, you should get rid of them. Run fast, run far. Yeah, and of course, you could go the other direction, so...
Whichever, just get away from her. Doesn't matter which direction. No, I meant with the whole cheating thing. Oh, okay. I thought maybe if I ran to the right, you're like, no, go to the left. Go to the left. No. So if there's, I'm trying to come up with a really succinct way of saying, like, for us, a definition that would be considered cheating. So skin to skin. Well, for us, there is no cheating. No, for us, there isn't. But when would somebody be considered a cheater? What would they have to do? It's a lot more than just thinking about somebody.
One, the partner's not having knowledge of it and acceptance of it. Okay, that's true. Two, it would have to have some level of physical contact. And stimulation. Well, just say physical contact. Well, you could shake somebody's hand. That's physical contact. No, I meant sexual physical contact. Then there's stimulation is involved. Oh, my God. Yes or no? Yes, dear. Sorry, dear. Oh, my God. Why do you think it's a pain in my ass? It's simple. One fist up your ass. Again, sexual contact. Okay.
So there has to be sexual physical contact some kind of stimulation so that makes it cheating and then if they're breaking the plane and there's insertion that's definitely cheating but not for us for no the only thing that would be cheating in our world and for us our us as a couple right would be if one of us was fucking another person and didn't let the other one know exactly transparency is uh paramount for us as long as there's transparency there's no cheating yeah i mean if you know you wanted to go go on a hot date with somebody and you're like hey i'm going on a hot date tonight is that okay oh yeah sure the same thing with me as you know as long as both of us are aware of it and okay with it then sure you know no previous engagements or whatever more so for you than me one thing i insist upon for you is that it's someone that we trust for your safety.
You know, I don't want you going to do things. Well, I worry about your safety, Tim. I know they overpower you. You're a delicate little flower, so. I am. 180 pounds. One leg. Of course, Autumn and Logan, you know, they said, you know, the picture you painted, we pictured this big fucking son of a bitch waddling down the steps. And they go, you're not that. Yeah, you're still a big guy, but there's no waddling. I'm big, but I'm not, yeah. I can, yeah. Hey, you can definitely be a linebacker. Well, you'd be a small linebacker. Well, back in my days of high school, I was a big, big linebacker.
You're a big linebacker. Yeah. See, he is a delicate little player. But today, I mean, I was 6'1 in high school. I'm now 6 foot, which by today's standards is not much. No, it's really not. Yeah. But I'm very broad. Yes, he is. Dumber than a box of rocks. Well, I didn't have to say that, so I'm glad you did. So you're holding up the cue card. It says that. It says, Vince, read this. Dumb as box of rocks. Anyway. All right. Well, we covered that. I think we beat this dead horse. Yeah. So, again, it depends on what you and your partner.
And here's one thing I would say to someone who's in a relationship, not necessarily married. Right. Before you make that marriage commitment, get down what the rules are for cheating. Yeah. You know, because, you know, in case all of a sudden you find out that, yeah, if we go to the beach, you can't look at another girl in a bikini. Okay, well, let's go to the senior section then. Jesus Christ. Oh, so now you're in the Milston Guild. So I'm like, what are you looking at that old lady for? Well, here's the problem with that.
If you go and if you say, you know, you bring up that topic of, okay, what do you consider cheating? They might be like, oh, you're already thinking about cheating. You just want to know what the boundaries are. Well, whatever. It's like, ah, you can't win. You just can't win. You know what? And if the significant other, okay, I'm not going to say who'd be cheating, has rules of what cheating are, then you better step up your fucking game and do not be possessive.
Okay, we're not done this topic yet don't be fucking possessive don't be fucking like you had a boyfriend that kept accusing you of cheating and everything else and you weren't no and because you were accused of it all the time and he kind of punished you for it you did what i cheated and then he's like look see i told you it's like it's a self-fulfilling prophecy if i'm being cheat if i'm being criticized and treated like the criminal that he thought i was you're gonna do the time you might as well do the crime yeah fuck it you know and it got to the point where you know i couldn't even um he would actually this is this is fucked up this is really fucked up here we go i remember um i was sleeping i.
And I was dreaming of my brother. Sick bitch. Well, it wasn't even anything. It was just, I was talking to my brother in my dream. What were you talking about? It was almost like that. Yeah, it was. It was almost like that. And I said his name. His name's Richie. So I said Rich. Talk about wood. And he's like, you said Richie in your dreams. And I'm like, yeah, it's my brother's name. Well, who's Richie? I'm like, my brother. Remember the guy you met? Yeah, remember my brother? That's his name. The guy who's a couple years older than I am? That guy? Same last name? Same last name?
Let's try him. Because you know what? The guy in my dream looked just fucking like him. Sounded just fucking like him, too. Pretty much. And I was like, it's my i know that i'm like oh my god are you kidding me you're accusing me of cheating on you in my freaking dreams that with my brother now that's sick that's just fucking sick right there dude yeah we don't live in west virginia no no so yeah there's there's some really fucked up things that people have with the whole cheating thing. He was way too possessive. Yeah. Way too possessive. Way too. Yeah, but find out the game.
Find out before you make a serious commitment there, you know, you have to get attorneys involved if it doesn't work out. Find out what they fucking, like. What the boundaries are. And the nice thing is nowadays, I think people are getting a lot more lenient i mean we're seeing more and more people younger people in the lifestyle in the lifestyle you know because all of a sudden more and more women want to be bisexual yeah unfortunately more and more guys want to be too yeah whatever sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't. Sometimes I feel yours. My nuts? Wait a minute here. Well.
If you got them here. You think you own mine. I don't own your nuts. Just kidding. Help me. I'm a better nut. Send help. What? Nothing, honey. I was just saying how much I love you. She hurts me a bit. Oh, shut up. Don't even listen to him. He's so full of shit. Ties me up in the basement. You like that. You asked for that. I didn't like it. I'm just bragging. She ties me up. Ties me up. It sticks big objects in my ass. Wait, you never asked for that ever. Would you say Vince at no time ever? When are you going to take that Mr. Coffee out? When I'm in the morning when I have to make coffee.
It's beeping, it's done. Can I please have the carafe? I'm going to make another pot. That heating plate hurts. Suck it up, buttercup. Okay. Anyway, so, yeah, okay. So I think we kind of exhausted this one now. Yeah, I think so. I think so. Again, quick plug for Spunk Loop. Plug for Spunk Loop. Hey, man, they shipped us like 20 fucking gallons. No, they didn't. Oh, you're so full. It's one gallon. One gallon plus a bunch of smaller bottles and stuff. So we're going to be sending one out to Jan. Yep. So she'll be getting her Spunk Loop.
And I expect to see pictures of it smothered all over her body. Oh, there you go. Where she has to show up here and I'll smother it all over her body. And that's it? Just smother it all over her body? I'm still visualizing it. Well, until we know what those titties look like. Well, I want to see the whole package. I don't want to see titties. I mean, you know. Well, I was getting there. I said, and everything else, too. I mean, I like tits. Yeah, I do, too. I'm a legs and ass man. I know that. Yeah, I know you do. I like legs and ass, too. I like titties. They're fun. Tits are a fun toy, yeah.
Something to hold on to. Yeah. And they add to the overall visual. You know, they're nice to put the whole package of curves together, you know, offsetting balance of the butt and the tits kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, I think so. But, you know, give me a nice set of legs and ass, and I'm a happy man. I'm in it. Give me a set. Again, we go back to the pantyhose and your short skirt thing. It's, you know. The green monster wears its ugly head. Oh, yeah. She's just so jealous. How can I look at that shit?
I've been bitten by the rocket baby i fucking rock it yes you do dear your calves they just like bulge out i give you official permission it's on it's been recorded it'll be out there if i ever catch me wearing that shit club me to death those of you who like it god bless you me personally you have nice legs although they definitely you can tell they're definitely manly legs well that's convenient, they're on a man they're not, they're shaped different than you know. That's because again, they're on a man I identify as a man I use a man's bathroom do you you now? And I stand to pee.
And sometimes. Sometimes. I shop at a men's clothing store. Okay. We have that all figured out there. We got that nailed down. Good. That makes me happy. Because that's kind of like what I wanted. Me too. Me too. I kind of wanted a man. See, we have it in common. We both wanted me to be a man. I'm happy about that. It's kind of erotic thinking we both want the same thing. It is. It's amazing. Although, okay, my door does swing the other way. Sometimes it's fun to have a lady that, you know, you and I can definitely.
I got a submarine a submarine door it goes one way and seals shut that hinge does not go through the bulkhead fuck no it's closed um mine's a little more like a oh you know these revolving doors yeah in out what's today trying to slam that revolving door and you just can't do it. No, I'm just like, whatever. Uh-huh. All right. So, anyway. Wow. Okay, we've got to stop this nonsense. We're almost at 55 minutes. Oh, Jesus, God. We can't bore them to death again. This is just not right. Well, I think that's the main reason people listen is for, like, they have insomnia. Oh, that's what it is?
Yeah. Yeah, it helps them put them to sleep. Honey, I'm having a hard time sleeping. Put the fucking hotwifepodcast.com on..com hotwifepodcast.online.online so again thank everyone for listening the numbers are blowing us away every day thank you I don't know what to say and again whatever platform you listen on please throw us like, subscribe if you haven't already. Again, I challenge all of you, because we're not asking for any money. And it is a challenge too. To, you know, invite one friend to listen to the podcast. Or maybe a frenemy, somebody that you really don't like that much.
Here, listen to this. I don't like you that much. Listen to the Hot Wife podcast. Here's a little insight. I started exploring opening up our own little store to have some of the clothing we've talked about with some of the sayings we did. Oh, God. That would be fun. You know? So if that happens, we'll let you know. And again, if people want to buy a shirt or a coffee mug or something, we'd be happy to have you buy one. If you don't, that's not a problem either. But we'll see. Yeah. Huh. Interesting. Yeah, it would be. But we encourage everyone to visit spunklube.com. Of course. Please.
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I think there's like 12 or 15 different platforms we're on. There's some platforms we're on. We're not even aware we're on them. They steal the show and put it on there, and and that's fine we don't get credit for all the listens because it happens there's a lot of people who start a website that's hosting podcasts they download it and they put it up i don't care i'm just glad people like it um we're losing money we're losing millions yeah that's just due to my heroin habit I wouldn't be this fat if I did heroin you don't know that really? I could do heroin and be this fat?
sure speed you might not be so as heavy you don't want to do speed either thank you everyone thank you everyone and have a great night.
