Cougars Unleashed: Why Confident, Experienced Women Drive Us Wild

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Speaker1: Hi, this is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wife Podcast. Well, hello everybody, and welcome to my Hot Wife Podcast. This is Donna Lynn, and I'm here again with my Wonderful Husband Vince. I stuck it in there. Yes, you did. Well, you are pretty wonderful, I have to admit that. Oh, yeah. Especially when I'm not here. I never said that. I never said that. You'd think I'd never heard it. I found it funny, the woman who did the review the other day, Donna and her Wonderful Husband Vince. Yeah, that's in quotations. I'm always saying that. Well, you are. I mean, you let me do what I want to do and you get to enjoy it and I get to enjoy it and have some fun. Then we have our fun afterwards. So you are pretty wonderful. And I hear other people talk about their husbands and this and that. And I'm like, I don't have those problems. I'm the antithesis. Antithesis? That's a tough one. So not jealous. That's true. That's one thing. Another thing is you're so easygoing with everything. In general. Until you piss me off. Yeah, then. That's what I was. I was talking about earlier about the one manager during the weekend. Remember we talked about yesterday? Why all of a sudden is he being so nice to you? Well, I think due to nature of the business I'm in, I'm easygoing, mild-mannered. For the most part. But when people piss me off or point loaded guns at me, I'm not so nice. Not so nice. And I think he sees that and he's like, oh, maybe I shouldn't fuck with him. Maybe, I don't know, I don't know. I work at a gun range, so yeah, I get assholes. They're all-time pointing loaded guns at me. That's unbelievable. A couple weeks ago, a woman pointed a gun at me in my chest. Yeah, that's... Basically, if it wasn't that she didn't grab the gun right with the back safety, I would have taken one to the chest. Yeah, that's nuts. And I need to say, I chewed her a new ass. And that was a lot of chewing. So anyway, but... You don't need to go there. No, don't need to. So yeah, I can be your best friend or your worst enemy. I'm getting back to the whole wonderful thing. That's what makes you so wonderful. You're easygoing. You know. As long as you think so. It's all that matters to me. So, on to more interesting topics. Yeah, we're fun topics. I might be wonderful, but I'm not interesting. I don't know about that. Pretty interesting in the sheets, I have to admit that. Well, thank you. That's all that matters. Make me squirm. Okay. Later. Ooh. So, tonight's topic is? Cougars. And, you know. Well, some people refer to it as cougars. people refer to it. I think the... We're just going to look at old, older, younger. Old versus young? Yay, that's sexy. Older, younger. So, I mean, if a man is older and the woman is younger, he's not a cougar. Is there a terminology for that? I don't... Creepy, perverted old man? Creepy, yeah. So, we'll stick with... We'll use cougar in general because it's far more erotic than a creepy old man with a... Yeah, it's also more erotic than an old lady with a hot young guy, too. Now, in all fairness, you have played with a few older men than you. Yes. And they are still very capable. Oh, my goodness, yes. We have another older man than you that wants to play. We have no idea whether he's capable. Oh, okay. I don't know. Yeah, we don't know yet. We don't know yet. We'll find out. But there is something I find remotely erotic about, like, the one gentleman that you've played with numerous times. Mm-hmm. Bringing an older gentleman some pleasure. Mm-hmm. You know? And again, people, for your age group, I think you look phenomenal. And for, you know, I think with some of these guys that they're partners if they have them or if they haven't passed or whatever. Right. That, you know, having that sexy younger, They're too young. I'm in their age group, that's for sure. You're close to a generation. Yeah. In some instances, yeah, there might be. A generation is 10 years. You're within, you're real close to it, you know, but whatever. I think there's something erotic about it that these guys make them feel that they're still relevant. Is that the words I want to use? Or they're still hot or they're still, you know, attractive. Yeah. We'll say hot. We'll say attractive. Attractive, sure. Desirable. Desirable. That's a good word. That's a very good word. So, yeah, it goes both ways. I mean, it really does. I mean, there's something to be said for being with somebody a little older than you. I mean, but there's something that is really interesting, erotic, with the age gap between me and a much younger gentleman. Oh, sure. I'm talking like 40-year difference or 30-year difference. Yeah, you've had numerous. And technically, maybe tomorrow, you might have two different playmates that are, They're close to 40 years younger. Yes. One's 27. Just turned 27. The other one's 25 or 24. 24, 25, whatever. So we're close to 40 years. Yeah. So almost 40 years, yeah. I mean, technically you could qualify to be their grandmother. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. Forget about the mom thing. It's grandmother. Yeah. It really is. And the fact that they're significantly aroused about you. Yeah, they've been texting me on and off all day. I mean, one guy's supposed to be here today. and something came up and he had to postpone it. So hopefully he'll show up tomorrow. Yeah, otherwise I have all kinds of erotic stories tonight, but that's not to be. Yeah. So being a cougar, what are the aspects that you find interesting, alluring, erotic? Well, there is a taboo. The taboo of it that's always fun. Yeah. You know, the fact that I am so much older than them. You know, if they're 24 and I'm 62, There's a huge gap there. But somehow when you're playing, I don't feel like I'm 62. There isn't that... I guess because sex brings everybody down to that basic level and all you care about is... Being naked is a great equalizer. It certainly is. So that's not a big deal. And if sex is going well, everybody's eyes shut and you don't know. You don't care. Yeah, you don't care if there's a little sag here, bagged there. It's like, oh well. You always have your eyes shut with me. I don't get it. Because I don't want to see. You tell me don't talk. I don't know. Shut up. Come on. Don't ruin my fantasy. Don't say anything bastard. Oh my God. Something like that. It's the same. It's questioning. That's another show. It certainly is. But that, it's that whole taboo thing that I find very erotic and alluring. You know, the fact that they are so much younger and that I'm, could be their grandmother. I mean, I'm in the age group for sure. I'm, I'm sure. I'm, I'm probably, They're older than their mothers. Yeah, oh, I would think so. I mean, possibly. I mean, if you put the average mother's age, let's say it's 20, 24 even. Right. Okay, and let's say they're 24, that puts them at 48. The mother would be 48, so. Oh my goodness, I would love to be 48 again. That'd be awesome. Oh, but. Yeah, so I'm definitely in the grandmother range. Yeah, I think one of the fun things we need to set up, sorry, just in case something happens, while we were doing the show, we moved the show temporarily back up to the house. Right. And so we might have interference from dogs. That's why he moved it to the studio, but this is just a little more comfortable. We're reorganizing the studio. We're revamping the studio a little bit, a little remodeling. But like a hot date. Have you go out on a date with one of these guys that's in their 20s, I'll put it that way. And getting the looks from, Oh, my God. Can you imagine? Yeah, that's half the fun. I don't think people would know. I don't think people care. But yeah, you would definitely get the... Were they going to think you're the mother? They're going to think I'm the grandmother. Are you kidding me? Yeah, well, I don't necessarily look that age. They would definitely think, well, she's a lot older than he is. Now, if you go on a date with a young black guy, I don't really think they're going to think you're the mom. Yeah, I would. Yeah, at that point, they would not think I'm the mom. But you never know And it's like, well, how do you act in public? I mean, I don't do any kind of show of affection in public necessarily. So people will just think, oh, okay, they're just, it's mom and her son. No big deal. But if there's any kind of show of affection, then they'll be like, oh, dear God, what the hell is going on there? Well, I think that'd be after fun. Oh, my goodness. Oh, no, thank you. No, come on. Even if it was just a subtle, a little kiss or, you know, whatever. I think, you know, I think it'd be fun getting a little. It is titillating to think about, but it's like, do you really, really want to? Especially the guys are like, wait, she's fucking him. And I'm stuck with my wife. Oh, my God. I think there's a lot more to it than you're willing to chase. I don't even think about that, honestly. Yeah, I know. When you go in your hot date, you don't do a lot of... No, we have, like, nice conversation. Believe it or not. It's not all like, yeah, baby, when I was sucking your dick. No. It's like, we don't do that till we get back here and start getting revved up again. You don't do that till we get dessert. I mean, it's appetizers and dinner. Exactly. That's, like, just not appropriate. No, we just have, like, normal conversation. Yeah, I get it. But I'm just saying, yeah, you don't even sit next to me, sit across. Yeah, I don't like sitting next to people. Because when I talk to them, I have to turn my head, and I find that uncomfortable. Like, how we are now, it's, like, a little bit like I would like to turn myself a little bit more. Yeah, but you wouldn't turn yourself away so you're not looking at me. Well, that's true. I said I had to turn myself. I didn't say which way. I was turning away or two. I'm not sure how I take that. Stop it. I was turning to him, folks. Believe me. I like being able to see you and talk to you. Open your eyes. Oh, sorry. There you go. There you are. I can't see you. I can't see you. Now the nausea starts. That's why I drink. See? Got it. Can't say that. So, yeah, I mean, yeah. There is something like if I was that. Let's pick. I'm going to use a generic scenario. Okay. Let's say a casino. Okay. So you see a older gentleman. Okay. Pick something like my age. I'm 56. Right. You see someone my age. Right. Let's say a 20 some year old girl. You go okay. He's got a lot of money. That could be. Or it's a daughter. I'm saying. Okay. Okay. A little more. She's just a little more provocative. A show of affection. Okay. and she's dressed so sexy. You know, it's obvious that if that's a mother and daughter, it's really wrong. Oh, it'll be a father and daughter. Father and daughter, really wrong. Okay, I see where you're going with this. You know, you sit there and look at a man with a younger, an older man with a younger woman, you go. He's creepy. Oh, my God, what a pervert. Yeah, he's taking advantage of her. Yeah, yeah. But you see an older woman looking very good with a younger man, and there's some, I think everyone's got to go. Oh, she's got it together. Fuck yeah. Oh, yeah. Fuck yeah. There's a double standard. There is a double standard. Usually it's, you know, there's always a double standard, it seems. Yeah. It's okay for an older woman. It doesn't always go the same way, but there's a double standard. No, there's a double standard. Because it's plain and simple. You sit there and just think about, well, now, if it's a young guy in good shape and she's a, you know, fucking Pillsbury Dough woman, you sit there and go, okay, she must have money and she's just paying this guy. But you see an older woman in great shape, And she's wrapped around this young guy. You think either he's got money or a big dick. Or she just likes to fuck younger guys. Either way. Oh, yeah, whatever. Lucky bastards. Lucky bastards. Yeah, somehow it's more alluring to have an older woman and a younger guy than an older gentleman and a younger girl. Yeah. Okay, so here's a question. I don't know why there's a double standard, but there is. Here's a question I feel you can answer in a fair manner. I'm not bisexual, so I'm going to ask you. No. Okay. What is more attractive to you? A mature man in good shape that looks good, or a mature woman in good shape that looks good? Oh, boy. Yeah, that's pretty much an even playing field. I tend to be a little more heterosexual than bisexual. Here's my way of looking at it. Here's my way of looking at it. Okay. Again, I'm not bisexual, so my opinion could mean absolutely nothing and probably does. Men tend to get better looking as they get older. Yep, I agree. A man doesn't even need to be in great shape to necessarily look better. Yeah. Okay, as an example, me. You have said and others have said, I'm not in great shape by any stretch. Right. I'm in better shape than I used to be. Yeah, that's true. You know, like now I have facial hair I didn't have when I was younger. Yeah. I'm thinner now than I was. Yeah. But apparently I look better now. Apparently, I don't know. I still look like a Pillsbury Doughboy. Oh, no, you don't. Not even close. Versus a woman, again, I've always said that a woman, I'll lower it to 30. I usually use 35. Mm-hmm. 30 and over, that maintains her good shape. And it doesn't have to be perfect shape. I'm fine with mom bods. I really am. And it exudes its sexuality. It's far hotter. Yes. Well, here's the thing. This is another double standard. Men as they age become what? Distinguished. Women as they age become haggard. Some, yes. Yes. I mean, there's that double. Men are distinguished. They have that gray. They're distinguished. and experience. Men can look haggard too. Yeah, men can look haggard. But the stereotype is men become distinguished, women become haggard. What would be a word that would be an equivalent for distinguished for a woman? I can't even think of one. Refined. Oh, I'm sorry. That is a good one. Good comeback. Yes. Refined. Yeah, a woman that... You have a little bit of gray, but you have a little... I find, again, even when I was younger, I've always had a fascination with is mature women that are in good shape. Again, by good shape, I'm not saying they have to look like they came off the cover of Playboy or whatever. Or they're in one of these fitness models. I mean, if they have, I always use the term paunch. Yeah. You know, there's women that have that little paunch in the belly. Yeah. I have no problem with that. Yeah, I'm not offended by it. You know? There is something, especially now that I'm 56, there's something to be said for people with experience. You know, God bless the people that can eat right and go to the gym seven days a week. Oh, I used to be that person. Yeah, I did. I was never that person. I only dated and married that person. Yes, he did. Yeah, but the people that, you know, put up, I'll even say remote effort, or care a little bit. I think far sexier. I mean, you know, versus, okay, a woman that has, I have the utmost respect. You know, we had talked years ago and you said, how do women let themselves go? You know, in all fairness. Oh, life gets in the way. You know, in today's lifestyle with the women raising kids, in all fairness, and men have their part. But a majority of men, Well, good portion of men, you know, they go do their job, and they come home, and that's it. Where the woman does their job, comes home, takes care of the kids, cooks the meals, does the laundry, and all that shit. And we've talked about that. Yeah, I mean, it's not always that way. And then the man's like, I'm not getting any sex. Well, dude, you didn't do anything. Help her out, man. You know? Yeah, I mean, housework is definitely a 50-50 chore. Sure, and the husband might, you know, he's doing what he has to do to pay the bills. I get it. I get it. We're all there. But, you know, don't sit there and critique your woman for not taking care of herself or letting herself go or not giving you what you think you deserve. You know, she's doing more than her part. Yeah, there's probably relationships that are, you know, the other way. She comes home, doesn't want to do anything, and he's stuck doing everything. So, and how do we get off on this topic? I don't know. I would still deal with the older, younger thing. Yeah, older, younger. I'm talking about, I guess, where I'm going with it. is the older women that we look at that have the mom bods. Right. And that's where I'm going. Okay. You know, but now when they get excessive, when they get where all they wear is sweatpants, where they wear the stretchy pants, and they should not. Yeah, I don't want to tell you. But an older woman that keeps herself in relatively good shape or great shape. Right. There's nothing hotter. Yeah, because it's, It's really easy just to, you know, go up the deep end and say, hey, I don't care anymore. A 20-something-year-old single woman should look like a 20-single-something woman. Yep. You should be in shape. It's really easy when you're in your 20s in general. But when you see a woman that is, let's say 35, has two kids, and you look at her and you go, you have kids? Yeah, exactly. The body's tight. I mean, that's like, oh, my God. You know, let's go through that motion again. You know, but not have the kids. Don't do the follow-up. Yeah, yeah, don't do the follow-up. Yeah, don't do the follow-up. You don't need the results. Yeah, I mean, and it's not easy to do that, but it can be done. Yeah. If you make it part of your lifestyle. And there's something very alluring, something very erotic about a woman that's in good shape, and then she can catch the eye of a younger man and have him think that she's desirable. There's something very erotic about that. Well, that's one of my little turn-ons is, You know, you wear your tight clothes and stuff like that. We've even experienced this where you're cutting the lawn one time. Oh, yeah. The truck stopped. It stopped to look at my ass. You see the guy, look at your ass. I've seen it in stores. I've watched where you'll be walking down the aisle ahead of me, and all of a sudden, the guy I'll be coming towards us does not realize we're together. They stop, and they turn around and look at your ass. What about that one store that the guy in? This guy came out, and he's wearing shorty shorts. Did you see what he was wearing? No, I didn't see. I'm quiet. He's got this like, you know, typical kind of like redneck dude with the, you know, the belly hanging over the shorts. But he's got these little, like, almost shorty shorts on, like cutoffs. Yeah, and he looked at me and goes, you're a pretty thing. Is that what he said? Something like that? Something to that effect, yeah. That's what he told me. I didn't hear it. Oh, my God. Oh, my goodness. Well, I said thank you. Yeah, and you know, some guys get offended by that. Yes, see, that's where the wonderful part comes in see you don't like oh dude he's gonna be looking at you blah why not you're a beautiful woman i i'm secure with the fact if you want to be with me you're gonna be with me if you don't want to be with me you wouldn't be here i'm checking out come on i'm ready ready to go how much time i got yeah hurry up um whatever hey you know if i don't make you happy i life short you owe yourself to be happy so i agree with that but yes you make me very happy so there if i don't make you happy i oh i'll let you know Oh, I know. Jesus Christ, I know. But no, I mean, again, if your partner doesn't make you happy, you're not making them happy. It has nothing to do with an orgasm. No. You know, there's a lot more to it. But anyway, no, man, there is nothing sexier than a mature woman. And again, everyone can put their own label on what calls mature. Sorry, he's burping a little bit. Oh, okay. You know, what age do you want to put mature at? Right. Right. You know? Of course, I know some older women that aren't real mature. Well, that's true. I'm 56, and I'm not real mature, but I'm not a woman. Still not mature. Yeah, still not mature. Don't want to. So, yeah, anybody like, I would say even 40s and older would be more mature. It seems like the 40s is still like it. I think once you break the 30 point, I always use 35. Really? I use 35. But by 35, I generally think you're pretty settled. You think? Yeah. I don't know. Generally, by 35, You have a job. Well, yeah. Well, I mean, I hope. That you're settled into for the most part. Not necessarily. Or a career. You have, well. I didn't have a job because I had multiple jobs. See, I had a career. Oh, I see. I see how you're putting career and job. Yeah, it was like, okay, this is what I did, you know. And, you know, by 35, generally, if you're going to have kids, you would have had them. Yeah, that's a good point. Good point. Yeah. In general, you know. You don't be having, after 35, that's for sure. Well, you can. It gets trickier. Yeah, it is very tricky. Yeah. But you've kind of now set in your ways, too. So even if you're not in a relationship, never had kids, you kind of have what you want in life. You're not... I'm still looking for that. Yeah, I encourage you. I have a couple applicants I'm looking at for myself. No, I didn't say a person. It's a what. It's not a person that I want. That's not what I meant for me. It's more career and, you know, that kind of a thing, yeah. Oh, no, I'm very happy with you. Come on. Yeah, me too, yeah. I'll discard those emails from that woman. You crying on somebody else's shoulder, are you? I wasn't a shoulder. Boo, fucking you. Oh, my God. Let me text. I gotta complete this text. She's giving me shit again. Anyways, this is why I don't love her. So, anyway, she makes me videotape her having sex with others. I can't stop looking at them. I can. I do. Oh, I'm 56. I don't need to see. I'm not, like, walking around with a heart on all the time, unfortunately. Oh, I don't know. In your mind, you are. Oh, in my mind, I'm still 14 with a heart on. You know, Vince, come to the board. No. No. I'll take the F. I'll take the F. But in my mind, I'm like, Vince comes on board, sure, what do you want? Yeah, so. But, yeah, no, there's something very, very sexy about that. Yeah, it's kind of on this side of it, being the older woman with these younger guys. There's one particular gentleman that I went back and I, when I was editing the videos, he, it's a facial that he gave me on the couch, it was that one. And... HotWifeDonnaLynn.com. Yep, you can see all these videos. There was one particular person and all these videos. He is literally half my age. He is completely enamored with you. Yes, yes. And he is, what, 30? He might be 31 now. Whatever, let's call him 30. But there's a part where he exclaims, he's like, and it's in the video, he's like, he looks at me and he goes, he goes, damn, look at you. Just look at you. Well, in all fairness. And he's like grabbing at me. Oh my God. He's a natural body He works out a lot and he competes. He used to compete. He had some injuries in natural bodybuilding. Yeah. So he's not like all jacked up. He's just nicely defined. Yeah. He's just nice. Yeah. He's a great guy too. Yeah. And he is completely enamored with you. Yeah. He's fun. And a few guys we have dealt with are like, oh my God, I love older women. Right. She's gorgeous. I love redheads. So it's like, you know, there's a. I'm fulfilling. A little fantasy for them. And by little, you do mean little. Four foot eleven. I am pretty short. Yeah, but... Yeah, it's... I mean, yeah, there's nothing... I mean, I'm guilty. You know, a 20-something-year-old walks by me in the store wearing leggings and looks good. Oh, yeah, you look. A little bit. But you know what? If, let's say, a 40-year-old woman walks by me looking good wearing leggings, I'm going to stop and turn the fuck and look around. Fuck yeah. You know, I mean, at my job, like I said, at the gun store, you know, I run the range on Saturdays. I've had plenty of women come in that are drop-dead gorgeous. Right. Wearing stuff and low-cut stuff. And I have to be very politically correct. Right. Yeah, they wear low-cut tops in there. And then there's a girl in the other week, oh, my dear God. But anyway. I hear these stories. Oh, my God. But I have to tactfully. Mm-hmm. Talked to both of them, and I generally addressed the man. Right. As an example, I want to go, I want to motorboat your wife, but that's not what I say. I sit there and go, listen, you're going to go into the range, and you're going to be shooting a firearm, and the hot casings bounce all around. One of those hot casings could go down the front of her shirt while she's holding a loaded weapon. Yes. And that could cause a problem. So I'm going to ask you, either if you don't have a t-shirt or something of your own, you know, we have free shirts that, you know, my boss looks at his free advertising. Yeah, exactly. Please take a shirt and have her put it on. I said, not that we don't all want to see the, you know, your beautiful wife, but we want to ensure safety. Yeah. And they all thanked me because I addressed the man. Right. That's, that's being very tactful. Sure. I want to sit there and go, I want to, you go shoot and I'm going to rape your wife. Oh, that's terrible. You wouldn't do that. Well, she, wouldn't like it, so it would have to be called right. I would give her no pleasure. Oh, that's terrible. You shouldn't even joke about that. I'm joking. But she wouldn't get any pleasure. You see a beautiful woman, you're like, I would so disappoint her. That's it. She might go lesbian. That's it. Stealing my lawns. I know. That's what you would say. Yeah, that's exactly what you would say. I could so disappoint you. How come I'm not lesbian? You are. Mm-mm. But you enjoy dick, too. I do enjoy it. I'm like 60-40, like I said before. 60-40? Is that what you think you are? Yeah. 60-penis? Yeah. I just don't think you've had enough good pussy. Well, that's true, too. It's just not readily available. I mean, it's like what we have today. I had a young lady supposed to come over today. She was supposed to be here. If she was real. If she was real. Okay, let's go. Let's preface it by saying that. And she was supposed to do a photo shoot four weeks ago. We haven't gotten a picture from it. Well, we got like one picture and her face really isn't in it. It wasn't a picture from that. Exactly. Exactly. Then she like showed like one picture. It might be of her face. But I mean, it's like if you have all these pictures, why? Just show me a couple. Just show me a couple. Just go in your bathroom, stand in front of the mirror like everybody else does and snap a picture. You can be fully dressed. We don't care. You have this person's number. I'm going to go take a picture of myself naked. the mirror and I said it to him. We'll punish him. Oh, there you go. They'll learn. This young lady texted me at like 11 o'clock this morning and said, hey, I'm leaving now. Maybe it's a little, maybe. It was closer to noon. Closer to noon. Okay, say noon. Hey, I'm on my way. I'm leaving in a couple minutes. It is now 4.23. And it's an hour away. Yep, it's an hour away. So, yeah. And I, like, check my phone. Somewhere around 2.30. Oh, I had to stop. I had anxiety. Yeah. So, whatever. Nothing. But, anyway, back to the cougar thing. Told you she was fake. Back to the cougar thing. That's why I haven't been able to get with women, because they're not real. Yeah. Again, we've talked about the whole fake and ghosting thing. And this one, if we can just go into this one, this one was elaborate. I haven't, we've chatted with the quote, and like I said, I don't know if this is real, the quote, mother of this person on another swinger website. If she's not real, I'm guessing. The mother's not real. If the person's not real, they can't have a real mother. Exactly. And the mom was like, yeah, I've always wanted to get into like, more erotic things and like porn and shoot and I'm like oh yeah this would be fun and but she's and she's she said I posed it to my husband and he shot it right down but my daughter would be into it and then she explained they were nudists so they're very comfortable in this kind of environment so I was like okay this does sound weird I don't know if this is real or not but okay I'll I'll play your game and this chatting went on for weeks you know chatting back and forth what we like what we don't like all kinds of you know toys and orgasms and And, you know, all kinds of sexual things. Not like, not, you know, it's more like informational. It wasn't conversational. It wasn't like, yeah, baby, I would do whatever to you. You know, and every now and then. That was the email I sent you. Oh, yeah, that was your email. I mean, every once in a while, she'd be like, yeah, I can't wait to lick you. I can't wait to give you a room job. I mean. Again, my email. That's, that's probably what it was. I got it mixed up. And here it is 12, I mean, 423, and she's still not here. So, you know, the whole thing was rigged. Weeks. What do you get out of that? I don't understand. I don't care. I don't give a rat's ass. I have other things to do. And we got them done. And we got them done. So whether they showed up or not, I mean. Yeah. Their loss. Sure. So. And that's, you know, we talked about the whole ghosting and shit. Yeah, that I don't get it. I don't understand. It's like, okay, what do you get to it? Is this, you think because you interrupted our schedule that. We just. He's like, oh, he's like, dude, or whoever, get the fuck over it. Yeah, grow up. Yeah. So, but, yeah, the cougar thing, back to that. That's much sexier than being ghosted. Again, you know, majority of the guys you play with are younger. I mean, even when they're in their 40s. They're still 20 years younger than me. Yeah. Oh, my God. That's funny. Yeah. Yeah, you have a hot date hopefully getting scheduled soon. I hope so too. Now he's older than you by a couple years. It's either he's slightly older. I think he's one or two years older. Yeah he might be like one year older than me so he's very much. That's going to be a little different for you on that hot date. Yeah it is. I know. Yeah. Should I say? Go ahead. He wants me to peg him and I was like oh I don't know. So I went out and I got this toy called the Dreamy Slut. It is a quote strapless dildo strapless. Don't look at me. I don't know. A strapless strap on. Is that even a word? It's called a strapless strap on. And part of it goes into your pussy so you can hold it and the rest of it hangs out. And I thought, oh, this is great. But when I got it, the design, it's very floppy. Either, hey, my pussy's not tight enough to hold it, which is unbelievable. We'll see what that's like. I've never pegged anybody before. If you hear whistling, it's our fucking dog crying. Yeah. The hound dog. He's bored. Oh, too bad for him. So that's going to be interesting because we're going to do it like as a hot date and I'm going to peg him one-on-one so I get the feel of it. So I'm not, when we do, you know, videotape it, it doesn't look awkward. Yeah, see if he's available tonight. Oh, that's such short notice. I don't hate to see if he's available. He'd come over. He'd come over. He loves fucking you. We do have a lot of fun, too. Yeah. Oh. Excellent while we're on the air. Yeah, I think I will. But, yeah, so that's going to be an interesting date. You guys will go out and go back to his place and do that in private so I don't have to watch it. Well, you're going to have to. I really, I know. I dread watching that. Stop it. He enjoys it. Who cares? It's not something I enjoy. Well, you don't. It's not all about you, Vince. It's not all about you. Well, when did that happen? Not. When did Not About Me happen? I don't remember. I can't put my glasses on with my... You take your headphones off. You don't have to hear me. Yeah, I don't want to hear you anyway. You don't listen to me anyway, more importantly. What'd you say? Exactly. So, but, yeah, it's, you know, be interesting. You guys, well, again, the thing is, when I said to you about the hot date for that, it was a matter of, like, since it's something new for you to do, and you've had a few people now ask you to do that with them. you can work out the you getting used to it. The logistics, too. So I don't have to see more than I have to see, in all fairness. I understand. I mean, okay, once you get it down to, like, what you need to do, okay, let's just do it and get it over with. Okay? I don't have to sit there and, like, oh, my God, she's struggling to get it in his ass. Oh, my God. Exactly. She's like, oh, I don't know what to do with that. It's like, you know, again, like, You talked about years ago. Someone had said something about it. And you're like, I don't know if I feel comfortable, you know, fucking someone with a strap on because I don't know what they like, how deep they want it, and how fast they want it, or whatever. Yeah, I'm definitely not comfortable with that. And so, it's like, yeah, it's not more, I don't want to watch more of that than I have to. Okay. I understand, Mr. Cameraman. You know, I'm sorry. It just, um. It doesn't float your boat. I get it. Yeah, like years ago, you did that thing with that one guy, Spanky. You know? You nicknamed him Spanky. That obviously wasn't his name. I don't know his name. When he came in wearing a cock cage, I was like, oh my God. He got an eight-inch dildo in his ass. And then that whole electrode thing. What was that? Some kind of a... I don't know. I wasn't there. I was on the other side of the curtain. I just had the camera on a tripod. You just pushed play and I'm done. I'm done. Just let me know when you're done. I'll edit the video later. Those who are into it, great. God bless you, man. That's great. You go with what gets you there. That's not my gig. I don't know. I mean. Not my bag, baby. It's not your bag, baby. I get it. You know what? I wasn't. You know, anal grew on me. So I'm trying to say anal. Receiving. Receiving. Yeah. It kind of grew on me. For the longest time, you were like, I don't want any part of anal. Yeah. And then. And now it's like, you know, someone, you know, you just talk to someone online. It's like, well, we can stick your dick in my ass. Jesus Christ. Hi, how are you? It's like, oh my god. Skip the front or go right in the back. Do you almost prefer that over vaginal? It depends on the length. Size, yeah. Like we talked about, it's a bigger channel. It's a longer channel. Yeah. Like some guys like to keep hitting my freaking. Yeah, your vagina. My vagina. Vagina. I keep hitting my cervix and it irritates my bladder, so I'd rather have it, if you go in the back door. There's no. Yeah, there's no, it's not like a bottomless pit, obviously. It gets your lower intestine first, yeah. Yeah, so. Because there's more room. It's not as uncomfortable. Especially if they're doing, like, doggy. It's like, goddamn, you're, like, poking the fuck out of my goddamn bladder. Stop it. I'm going to have to pee. You're making me have to pee. That's a good point. So if they go in the back door, as long as they're not too girthy. I think you've almost had more orgasms anally than you have vaginally. Well, I don't know about that. There's more room to play up front when he's in the back door. Just saying. Okay. It's like if you have a, I'm not going to, I don't want to get too technical. My penis going into my vagina. There's only a fraction of an inch or half an inch between where the penis is and the top of my clitoris. Okay. So it's hard to get a toy in there. But you're in the back door, you got, you know, three and a half inches. You haven't done any DP with a toy and someone in your ass, have you? I've tried. Who was I with? Whatever. You haven't. Yeah, I was with somebody. So you have to try doing that more. Yeah, it's a good idea. Get me used to it. I do want to do double penetration or something. There's a guy who wants to do DP with you. There's a lot of guys that want to do DP, and they don't freaking show up. They talk big, but then they sit there and say, oh, if you bring somebody else over, I don't want to be here. You guys can't? No. That was for doing threesomes. Yeah. Well, we have a few guys say, I won't do threesomes. Yeah. I understand that. It's fine. Yeah. But the guys that want to do double penetration, they're obviously okay with it because it is double penetration. And one guy canceled on us. So that's the night we did that crazy massage by the That ended up being very hot. I did anal with him. It was very messy and slippery. I watched that video and I was like, yeah, this is really hot. Yeah, we should have called him earlier. Oh, it's Sunday too. He would have been off. Text him. No, I just texted the other guy. Oh, okay. Did you hear from him? No. Oh, I'm sorry. Why don't you get in late? I want to, I want to wet my dog out with, I put him on the lead. And just let him go? Yeah, just, Come back if you want to. Oh my goodness. I hope you don't want to. I know. He's so annoying. Well, do you want to wrap this up? He gets bored. Oh, stop. Just leave the dog alone. He gets so bored and he cries all the time. He's a big, strong dog and he's just so feminine. You just don't like him, do you? I love him, but he's feminine. No, he's just... They cut his nuts off and he's feminine. But he's a big, strong dog. Not as strong as me. No, but... He's tried. Yeah, but... But I mean, we've had other dogs at his weight, and he is... Oh, he's strong. I'm not going to argue. He is strong. He's come after me a few times and lost. He's sitting there looking at us like wagging his tail. What the fuck are you guys talking into those things for? Can I eat them? Or chew them up, or scratch them, or just destroy them? Can I smell them? Oh, that's more like it. His nose is a... Well, he's a hound dog, so... Anyway, all right, so now we're boring you. Ooh, yeah, sorry. We're boring you, sorry. He's a coon hound, and he's driven by smell. So the topic was cougars and older and younger. So we agreed that it's not necessarily overly creepy. If it's an older man, younger woman, it needs to be an older man and a woman within 15 years. Okay, you want to put an age limit on it? Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, when they're like too young, like even if I see the guy my age with a guy that I've been with their age, like a 30. So in other words, if he's 35, he could be a 20-year-old? Hmm. Well, yeah, I guess that's fine. Yeah, it's fine. I'm not saying, you know, I'm just saying. It's not as creepy because he's almost, it's not. It depends what he looks like at 35, you know. So, but, yeah, I'm saying. 35 looks like you're 25 and she's 25. If they're 65 and she's 25. Ooh, that is, this is going to sound very, very, yeah, there's definitely double standard. It's going to sound double standard-ish. That sounds very creepy. And I look back, I'm like, wait a minute, I'm almost that age. I've been with people almost that. Yeah, that same age group. So is that creepy for me too? I don't feel like it's creepy. If the guy is in great shape and doesn't look 65. And he looks more like 45? Yeah. Then I, you know what, it's less creepy. Okay. It's less creepy. Okay. Is that double standard? Are we really that shallow? Are we really that shallow? I'm just, no, It's our appearance. People have to do what is good for them. I mean, if a woman is 65, and I don't find 65 that old anymore. No, I certainly don't. Especially if she's 65, but we go with the stereotypical thought of a 65-year-old. And then we look at a young guy who's 25. You sit there and go... That's creepy. Most 25-year-olds would not go for it. Now, you're 62. I don't anticipate Eight and three years. You're going to be a major change in the way you look. I just hope it gets better. We can hope. Well, I'm working on it, so. Yeah, yeah. It's a constant effort. Oh, yes, it definitely is. Yeah, for everybody. Mm-hmm. So, okay, you're 62. 62 and a 25-year-old. We've seen it. We've seen it. Yeah. It looks good. It looks okay. Yeah. It looks okay. It's like, well, you know, I got that little middle thing. I got to do more crunches, but yeah, it looks okay. Got to stop eating carbs. Yeah, for sure. Carbs are the enemy. Tell me about it. I can't eat carbs. Nope, not at all. I actually eat better than you do. Yes, you do. When it comes to carbs, you absolutely do. Yeah, I do. I eat better than everything. I don't, you know. You don't eat enough vegetables. How many vegetables do you eat? I take my balance of nature. So do I. Okay, then there you go. And I eat vegetables when I'm with my, I'm a day caregiver for my great aunt, so I have a vegetable with her. And her great aunt is 103. 103, so yeah, there we go. Oh, God. And she's rocking and rolling, baby. You should see her fly across the room. She's rocking. She's still getting around. You can tell she's starting to age. Except for the short-term memory, she's in better shape than I'm in. She's starting to use her walker more and more. I'm going with the short-term memory. I could use a walker. From time to time. I could use a walker. I had a walker for a short bit when I came from the hospital a year and a half ago. Yeah, so did I. When I got my hip replaced, I use a walker to get around. But yeah, I get it. We'll have to deep end on that one. That's so sexy. Let's go with, it's better for the woman to be older than the man and the playmate to be. Okay, let's look at the alternative. Oh my God, there's an alternative. I thought you were wrapping this up. Older man, younger man. Older man, younger man, like together? Oh, like a gay, like a homosexual relationship? I wasn't sure where you're going with that. Huh. In all fairness, almost looks creepy. Same as with the lesbian scenario. Older woman, younger woman, a little creepy. Yeah. I don't know why this visually, I'm not saying it is, visually it appears a little creepy. Homosexual relationships, like when I think of homosexual women, I think of two fairly good looking guys who are attracted to each other, but you know, just happen to be attracted to the guy. But they're usually, Like in movies, porn I've seen and stuff, they're usually the same age. I think it ventures into that whole thing of like the rich person, the rich older person, you know, wanting something. Taking advantage of a poor younger person. So now, what was the other, I just thought of it a second ago, the other scenario with this. Oh, balls. But it was the same kind of concept. But fuck. That pisses me off. I shouldn't be day drinking. It's not. It's... Well, I've been drinking since one. Oh, I know the time. And it's now... 4.30. 4.30-ish. Yeah. But... Yeah, it's... The whole... I mean... Again, if people are happy and consenting and of age, I don't care. Yeah. Whatever makes you happy. Yeah. But on the outside, I see what you're saying about it. There's a little more, I don't know, creepier with an older... It visually appears. Yeah. I'm not saying it is. Yeah, it just visually appears. You know, as long as everyone is consenting and stuff, it's fine. It's, you know, I'm just, we're expressing our opinion. That's all it is. Yeah. It's not... All the homosexual relationships I know of friends who are in the same age group. Maybe a couple years older. Like six years. There was a client I had some years ago that was obviously very flamboyant. I can't say he was gay, but I would say he was very flamboyant. He dressed very flamboyant. He had an assistant that he had dressed in a very flamboyant way. His assistant was dressed exactly like him. And by this I mean this gentleman wore... They both wore the same pants, the same shirt. Oh, let me go over the description here. Okay. The gentleman, the older gentleman, was wearing very bright colored pastel suits with ruffled shirts. Oh, no. Like... That went out with the 70s. The 70s, yeah. Like going to your prom, ruffle shirts. Bell bottoms. Oh, oh. And his assistant wore the exact same outfits. I remember you telling me this story. That is creepy. Now that is creepy. I'm sorry, that's creepy. I can't mention the name. We always use the acronym when we've talked about it in the past of Die Hard with Hans. Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about. I don't remember his assistant dressing just like him. Oh, I do, yeah. It was like mini-me in a creepy sexual, homosexual way, but creepy. Yeah. That is creepy. It did. It appeared creepy. Yeah. I didn't even know if anything was going on between them. I can't say it did, but the fact that they dressed like was a little creepy. Yeah, that's creepy. I mean, I understand dress codes, but that's... No, a dress code would be, okay, you wear a shirt and tie, you know, and a suit jacket. Or khakis and whatever. But these guys were, like, wearing, like... Especially a suit like that. I don't remember the... This was, like, and I don't mean this in a derogatory way. This was, like, a 1970s Puerto Rican wedding. And they're all groomsmen. Well, you can say anything about the 70s. That was huge. Those ruffled shirts. I think it's Chico and the Man. You know, when the character Chico wore, like, the ruffled shirt and the pastel blue. Oh, man. It was like two of them, and they're dressed alike. And it's, I want to think if it was a wedding party, but this is like the boss and his assistant. It's like, why are they dressing exactly alike? Oh, man. These are not outfits you buy off the rack. These are, you know. It's once you find a thrift shop, maybe. But again, that might get into that whole power play. a thing. Power exchange. Yeah, you dress like me. I'm the boss. As long as everyone is consenting end of age, I'm okay with it. What you do is you do you. God bless you. That's not me, but you do you. That's definitely not me. Yeah, so anyway. All right, so we more than killed that topic. Oh my God. That was very, I forgot all about that little walk down memory lane. Oh, I'm in therapy still for that. Oh, God. God. Yeah. Oh, geez. Yeah. Okay. Thank you for that. Yeah. All right. So I want to thank everyone for listening. We still, the numbers are great. 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