In this episode of the Hot Wife Podcast, hosts Donna Lynn and Vince explore the concept of relationships and contracts, particularly focusing on marriage and the swinger lifestyle. They discuss the nature of marriage as a contract, the importance of communication and trust, and how boundaries are established in non-traditional relationships. The conversation is filled with humor and personal anecdotes, making it relatable and engaging for listeners interested in adult discussions about intimacy and relationships.TakeawaysThe podcast is intended for adults over 18.Marriage can be viewed as a contract, both legally and personally.Communication is essential in any relationship, especially in non-traditional ones.Trust is a fundamental aspect of their relationship.Boundaries should be established and respected in the swinger lifestyle.Contracts in relationships can be verbal or unwritten, but they are still important.It's crucial to ensure all parties are aware of the rules in non-monogamous relationships.The hosts emphasize the importance of mutual understanding and agreement in relationships.Humor plays a significant role in their discussions about serious topics.The podcast serves as a form of therapy for the hosts.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/hot-wife-podcast-and-the-swinger-lifestyle--5343522/support. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Speaker1: Welcome to the Hot Wife Podcast, where we dive into discussions about relationships, intimacy, and everything in between. Before we begin, we want to make it clear that the views expressed on this podcast are solely those of the host and guests, and should be taken as opinions, not professional or medical advice. Additionally, we remind all listeners that this podcast is intended for adults over the age of 18. Unauthorized rebroadcast of this show is strictly prohibited without the written permission of the owners of Hot Wife Podcast. Now, let's heat things up. hello everybody this is donna lennon welcome to my hot white Of course, I'm here with my wacky husband, Vince. He's been doing all kinds of things and tweaking his nipples as a song's playing. Speaker2: Never. Never did that. Speaker1: You never do anything that's normal. Speaker2: That anyone can see. Speaker1: That's why I have to rat you out on air. Speaker2: That's fine. No one's going to believe you. Speaker1: I'm outing you, buddy. Speaker2: Anyone cares what I do. Speaker1: No, no, but you don't care what you do, so what does it matter? Speaker2: No, that's the exact, there we go. Speaker1: I know, I know. Speaker2: 58 years of not giving a shit. Speaker1: Ooh, you're getting worse, too. Speaker2: Oh, yeah, no, it's getting really bad. Speaker1: You got the bad case, I just don't give a shit. Speaker2: Go fuck yourselves, yeah. Oh, my God. Ooh God. I kind of stay on your good side, babe. I'm lucky you are, but you can't say for how long. See, I knew it. I knew that was coming. I knew that was coming. Man, it's a whole other show topic right there. Should we really give a shit? That's a question. Speaker3: No. Just, you know, don't be insulting to other people. Speaker4: Don't overstep your balance. Oh, fuck you. Speaker3: Yeah. Speaker1: But, you know, I mean, within reason, yes, you should be able to express your...
Speaker2:
No, I'm courteous, but when people are less courteous...
Speaker3:
Yeah.
Speaker2:
I mean, I am...
Speaker4:
Be polite.
Speaker2:
I'll put it to words, blessed, that I am of the size of a person that I cannot give two fucks. I'm the size of an elf. That person needs a care. You know, there's little. You're the size of someone who makes cookies in a tree. Yeah, that's. Again, Donna's four foot 11, I'm six one. So, yeah, here'1". Donna's 115. And I'm closer to 240. More of a football build, not necessarily obese. Yeah, you're definitely stocky. You're meaty. He's a meaty guy. He plows right into you. Yeah, you could definitely plow over people i'm a football build oh yeah i'm a uh solid individual individual not mentally solid but physically so mentally dense dense but not solid okay but uh anyway so uh welcome to donna show can't say it's my show I get yelled at for a long time. Oh, not by you, by a couple of listeners. Oh, no. This is Donna's show. Oh, not really. Come on. I mean, come on. Vince does all the hard lifting. I'm just here. I can't even say I'm the pretty face. I just come here and just act. Obviously, look at me. You're gorgeous. I'm the eye candy. You're the eye candy of the show. I think so. My wife married me for the eye candy, and look at me here, nailing it.
Speaker1:
Nailing it. He is, too, boy. He is definitely nailing it.
Speaker2:
As long as you're blind, I'm gorgeous.
Speaker1:
There you go.
Speaker2:
In a dark room? No one's better than you.
Speaker1:
I'm not going to put my glasses on.
Speaker2:
No, don't do that.
Speaker3:
Don't do that.
Speaker1:
Glasses are forbidden.
Speaker2:
Info at hotwifepodcast.com. Love to hear you people do email us we do respond to you um we like hearing from people we actually like to know people listen i like to know that we're not the only ones in the universe with this warped sense of humor well yeah again any of those any of you who may be fairly new to the show, this is our relationship. We do, we're constantly on air, off air, picking on each other. Yeah, it's good friends of ours who listen to the podcast. It's like sitting with the two of you. It's how we are.
Speaker1:
As frightening as that is.
Speaker2:
It's no act, unfortunately. There's no money, but that's the same come on whatever yeah this is our therapy we started this show over four years ago um with the concept of just therapy to actually promote donna's content yeah when i was doing content right yeah of course we talked about it dude her arm yeah her arms uh her arm two arms or her she just had one uh shoulder replacement and the other one's coming it's gone it is is terrible one arm's getting better the other other arm's getting worse so soon will become my only fans page watch those numbers rocket i would die laughing if you did't have me advance page i would love it i could i'm sure you could i'm not i'm not laughing at you i'm laughing with you i'm not laughing you're not but i am and you're laughing at me no i'm laughing with you this really cuts deep I'm sure it does hang on a second let me see something oh there we go that's better oh i'm sorry did that did that mute your mic oh i didn't know what that did okay all right all right okay okay but um no again um real quick touch base uh been around doing this for four years and having fun with it. It's our therapy.
Speaker3:
Yeah, it's what we do.
Speaker2:
If you listen and enjoy the show, thank you.
Speaker1:
That's what I wanted to say.
Speaker2:
We enjoy it too. It really is our therapy.
Speaker3:
And God knows you do a lot.
Speaker2:
We're sharing our experiences and our knowledge of relationship. Knowledge, okay, yeah.
Speaker1:
Relationships, sexuality, and our experiences in the Swinger lifestyle. That's it. Ours aren't everyone's. No, no. Yeah, we've experienced some fucked up shit, but that's a different story. So yeah, and again, if you like the show, thank you. We invite you to find some other demented friends that might like the show, too. So, I mean, the numbers of people that was at the show, we scratch our head every week when we see the numbers, like, really? How many people was in? So, you have to have a voice come out of your mouth. Yeah, I know. Like, I'm just, I'm speechless. I'm sorry, I was speechless. I was like, like i don't know this is just what we do for fun so yeah and and in all fairness we really don't make any money with it no so no we don't we're not asking you to we're not asking you to buy our merch we're not having we don't have any so i don't care this is just what i could do for this is solely us just talking so yep and with that yeah oh info at hot wave podcast if you want to reach out to us i don't want to forget that yeah info at hot wave podcast.com love to hear from you we will answer you as quickly as we can uh generally it's within a day uh sometimes it's within minutes you're on the computer quite a bit so you're it's on my phone. Yeah, it's on your phone. Okay. And generally, it is me that answers you. That's why he knows more about what's going on than I do. I have an actual... She's just a pretty face with you. I'm not even. Not even. She doesn't answer my texts. Well, at least I'm consistent. Yeah. There you go. I think you blocked me actually i did and then you thanks all right so what's today's topic well i'm going to just back up a little bit when we're driving we're talking about we do we do that like we talk have to talk a lot of things while we're driving and stuff. And I had said before that marriage is like a contract,
Speaker3:
or like a sex contract. Well, the original discussion was about the marriage contract.
Speaker2:
Mm-hmm, the marriage contract. Whether it was the state license or the vows.
Speaker1:
Exactly.
Speaker2:
My argument was, technically, as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker1:
I'm not a lawyer, I don't play one on TV, that once you sign your state license to be married, you're married. So what you say in front of a whoever, a minister, someone with a certificate, a rabbi, or whatever right that is that's a verbal contract between the two of you that doesn't involve the state no you can't you know because you can't go for file for divorce and go to court and go he said he'd take care of me in sickness and health it's like no it's not part of the contract contract was you're married oh no for me the contract was the vows i i promised to you know either you know take care of you love you but i shut up you know or i'll pay back the loan at seven percent interest it's the same thing that's the contract that little piece of paper is just a verification of it credit didn't come i mean it's the same thing it's okay one is verbal okay maybe it doesn't carry water like a written contract of when i you know bought the house when i had to sign on the fucking paperwork i get it but it's the same kind of thing when i entered into this relationship with you legally we had made certain promises to each other they weren't like all flowery like you know you're the love of my life garbage garbage bullshit bullshit exactly but we had made certain promises to each other and we to my knowledge are upholding them as much as we can i mean it's kind of like yeah you know it's it wasn't like nailed down verbatim, but it was like.
Speaker2:
If I thought it was a serious contract, I would have rewritten them. You know, you will give Vince a blowjob every morning. You will send him to bed every night with a blowjob. You will caress and love his testicles.
Speaker1:
And lick them.
Speaker2:
Oh, that's all part of caressing and loving.
Speaker1:
Not necessarily.
Speaker2:
You have to put that in writing, mister. We're going're gonna redo our marriage and i want a fucking contract for you it would be frightening you will clean that pussy with like a toilet bowl cream or something can you imagine a contract from here on out known as the pussy donna's vagina you will take four fingers in your ass lightly ah come on really okay five oh there we go what happened to the anal fisting come on it's getting older my arm is just my elbow now see now i feel my pain my arm my shoulder i know but anyway yeah so that's what my feeling was. And how this all kind of relates, other than us just being stupid, is we've talked about in the past, if you and your partner are in the lifestyle, or if you're someone single playing with a married couple, everyone has to have a a set of rules guidelines whatever you want to call it right um you know for us it's a matter of honesty with the other partner it's a matter of being safe safety's first you know um and generally of cardinal knowledge for us now Now, there are other people like, well, they have to come and ask my permission. They have to, you know, worship of the golden calf.
Speaker1:
We played with one couple. It was like watching a freaking baseball game.
Speaker3:
Oh, yeah.
Speaker1:
It was, you know, when you were a kid and you were like, you know, you got to like first base. At first base is what you got to.
Speaker2:
It was Simon Says.
Speaker1:
It almost was.
Speaker2:
It's like one could not go. Simon Says, give oral to the other person. Okay. They came. Oh, I'm not done giving oral. Yeah, you better wait. You better wait. Yeah, spin the wheel. It was so mechanical and so contrived. And that's fine, but that's their rules. Yeah, that was. Their contract, whatever you want to call it. That the rules but it was very rigid that was what it was and that's fine i know you might not have to like it but you have to respect it i do respect it okay just wasn't fun no play with them after that they might not realize that's not fun it's not fun one of them is insecure enough that they need the other one to abide by that and i i don't know which one was what. I don't know. I don't care. It doesn't matter. But I'm just saying. But it's, yeah. More recently, it's like, well, you know, that you're supposed to, you know, that the playmate's supposed to go get permission from the other one. It's like, when did that start? How many times have I played with your playmate? Yeah, exactly. You know, but also now i'm supposed to go check my fucking library card i don't but these are things that should have come um come up way before it has to be with inside the couple so in other words let's pretend you and i had that rule where oh god i expect whoever to come check in with me you know what when I have a playmate, I would tell him. Then you need to know that. Yeah, I need to know that. I can't rely on whoever it is, male, female, team, whatever, for them to come to me and go, oh, I'm sorry. You're supposed to go, hey, listen, before we get nasty and disgusting, can you go ask Vince go ask vince if you know you can defile me you know but and okay that's their rules i didn't know that and then the cop an attitude with me i'll bitch slap you yeah these are things that like i'm playing with other couples can be very uh my god finicky you know because you don't it's not it's a close word not the word i'd want to use i don't know what the word i want to use it's like an old lady
Speaker1:
get growing crotchety you know what i mean they just kind of get like now you gotta ask permission it's like i played with your your mate like a billion times it'd be like one of my playmates all of a sudden like oh i gotta ask permission yeah i only played with it like but 13 times i mean come on we practically we're on hot dates together really now are you gonna ask for permission Thank you. all of a sudden like oh i gotta ask permission yeah i only played with it like what 13 times i mean come on we practically we're on hot dates together really now are you gonna ask for permission now i need to ask for really that's stupid but you gotta know that period on the way here i would have known to ask you but that's the man yeah a man rag jesus christ your testicles are bleeding i'm sorry i don't know i think that you need a man pond yeah i like that man i like that i'm gonna patent that i think you should well here's the thing you and i are just kind of like ebb and flow it's like it which one am i um which which is the one that comes out i don't know i'm the one that goes in dead ebb i don't ebb anyway whatever i'm ebbing your flow oh no i have to be flow it just makes sense that i'm flow you're ebb here so you know we just kind of go with the motion it's like it asks permission no we're not that rigid it's kind of like you know what our permission is i look over and i see you all sudden have your head in somebody's lap it's like wave to me. It's like, okay, she's good. I got your little thumbs up. I know where she's at. Okay. There you go. She's safe. I see you go down to somebody. You can't even see that I'm looking at you because you don't know because you've got thighs around your neck. I look over. I can't hear a goddamn thing. Yeah. You know what you might do if you knew I was watching? I've got thigh phones. Thigh phones. That's pretty good. I like that? Yeah, I like that. I'm going to roll today. today you are yeah but I mean I can't like you know wave to you but I was I was very proud it was very proud it was very cool how many people use a term they're proud of their husband tearing up somebody's pussy I hear them well I was with my playmate like i said you trained me no i just no i definitely did not train you absolutely had nothing to do with it it just kind of like happened but you know i enjoy that other people are enjoying your enjoying you whatever that is all that is vince exactly good bad the you and I have is is very loose it's very fluid the crown crown crayon not cray. That's not my fault. You don't know English. It's not my fault. It's not my fault. Stupidest name ever. Crayon. I don't know where it came from, do you? Okay, move on. But see, our rules, if you can call them that, are very loose. They're very like within. Because we trust each other. Is that it, do you think? Yeah. I guess. We just have an unwritten understanding between us, I guess. We trust each other. Is that what you call that? Okay, trust. God damn, it's trust. Damn it. I thought it was something better than that, but okay. Trust is good. That's all I can come up with. That's it, it's trust. So we don't have actual rules. So for us, having an actual contract would be kind of redundant. Well, we have a contract. We do. Honesty. Okay. Security. Boom. Well, there's no, like, eight pages and, you know, from now on, the company shall be known. It's an eight-page contract and nine are blank. I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what to tell you. Nine or blank? I'm not good at math. No, but everyone's different. Yeah. What works for us doesn't necessarily work for anyone. No, I don't think it worked for a lot of people. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's. But when people would talk to me about marriage i keep discussions i have with okay vanilla women so i don't even know i'm in the lifestyle i don't even but they're like you know marriage is about love and blah and i'm like well you know vince and i got married because he had insurance otherwise well hang on we did love each other we did of course i did shut up i hate you so much there you go there's a love but it wasn't about that it was like we did that that actually signed that contract because you had good insurance at the time a piece of paper isn't gonna make me love you we were together we've done it we had done each other for years years yeah we were living together for over a year or so. Yeah, almost two. Things were going well. Things had always gone well, even before we lived together. Right. So marriage was just. And it was just one of the things that you and I, after me coming out of a horrible marriage. Right. And you coming out of a horrible. Relationship. Numerous relationships. Shut up. They're not all bad. Name one good one before me. Well, he died, but.
Speaker2:
That wasn't good. He wanted you to wear a fucking burka.
Speaker1:
He was very controlling.
Speaker2:
Yeah, very jealous.
Speaker3:
Yeah.
Speaker2:
Okay, so good.
Speaker1:
No, not too good.
Speaker2:
The one before that was what? A pyromania?
Speaker1:
A pyromania. Well, you got my relationships and a freaking, yes.
Speaker3:
Okay.
Speaker2:
I look like a fucking god.
Speaker1:
You look like a fucking angel.
Speaker2:
Jesus Christ.
Speaker3:
Thank you. Well, you got my relationships and a freaking, yes. Okay.
Speaker1:
I look like a fucking god. You look like a fucking angel.
Speaker2:
Jesus Christ.
Speaker3:
Anyway.
Speaker1:
Moving on.
Speaker2:
Let's not overstate the obvious.
Speaker1:
I can't pick a good man to save my life. What can I tell you?
Speaker2:
I just swallow. You didn't say anything about time no except for vince okay here we go thank you so i had to swallow that first you're like swallow it bitch take it all in um don't waste a drop yeah nope but um no it's uh you know if you're in a relationship i mean getting back Let's get started. nope but um no it's uh you know if you're in a relationship i mean getting back to the contract thing right i mean you have contracts we have a contract unwritten right that's like okay there's things that need to be done around the house there's things you do there's things i do there's things we try to do together the things i do if you can't do them there's things you do if you can't do them. There's things you do if I can't do them. We don't talk about it. We don't go, hey, listen, I can't whatever. You do it. We just do it.
Speaker1:
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker2:
You know, technically, we originally talked, I cook, then you do dishes. Well, with your arms and everything, you still try to do dishes.
Speaker1:
I can't put them away, though. I cook, I do dishes, I put them away i cook i do dishes i put them away it's it's fine it's what it's you know it's a it's a partnership yeah we have a like i said we were very synergistic you know when one one goes in the other one goes out it kind of kind of molds together it works well for us but and yeah we don't need to have an actual written contract but if we did you know it it would be very very simple like you said the honesty the trust be written an etch-a-sketch but yeah etch-a-sketch don't bump it don't bump it yeah it's the worst thing but i mean but still marriage is like a contract whether you have it written in stone or whether you have a lawyer sign it or not there is a contract whether it's a verbal contract whether it's one i just basically feeling like you just know like okay well this is what i'm supposed to do well i mean don't remember some people need it in black and white yeah sure some people do you know like a prenup or whatever yeah exactly but you know where you know you're in a good relationship is when you don't have to have it written down yeah and you just you just know
Speaker2:
you know it's like a good let's say a baseball team it's like okay i know the guy hits the ball here i run over there it's going to be that you know the the right fielders i'm running over there too you know whatever it's just you know there's a team just pick up for each other yeah it is a team mentality it's not you and i it's we it is a team mentality. It's not you and I, it is we.
Speaker1:
And when you start thinking in you and I.
Speaker2:
No, unless it's somebody who's like, Donna's playing for me, and that one says dick sucked, and she's like, oh, I got a toothache. It's like, pfft, shit, too bad, dude, I got any dick sucked. We don't pick up for each other that way.
Speaker1:
No, no, I mean, okay, in that case, we don't. We don't pick up for each other.
Speaker2:
That's a forfeit game right there. You're out, you're leaving. But for us, it's this kind of, I don't know, very un-concrete, un-written-down kind of contract works for us. It's an unwritten contract. It is, definitely. Again, the original contract of a marriage, and not everyone has to be married. We're not saying that. We don't feel that, is your wedding license, marriage license, which really is what makes you married. Oh, yeah, that's the legal. The vows is a ceremony. See, I always thought that the vows was part of the contract somebody has to sign the license yeah that just makes it legal yeah but really does it does it if you go just as a piece that's just a judge or whatever oh yeah so we did so it's just still just uttering a couple words and you could make the words whatever you want i was making the could. I did too. I said, hickory dickory dock. This bitch better suck my cock, you know. Yes, I do remember that. My mom cheered. My dad was like, whoa. I should have wrote those myself. But, you know, so, and then the contract you you have if you're going to get into the lifestyle you need to you need to have some agreement what the boundaries are yes otherwise somebody's going to get upset possibly yeah very possible they can change oh that's true too so contracts but they need to evolve they need to be communicated
Speaker1:
communicate oh damn we're back to communication again fucking a can't get away from this fucking
Speaker2:
word no matter what we do it's communication this really sucks starts with a k and age with a seven I don't know what that is
Speaker1:
what are you spelling communication
Speaker2:
okay you're on time to spell What are you spelling? Communication. Okay. I'm not saying that. I'm just moving on here, folks. But yeah, I mean, whether you actually, like the one couple was just so rigid with it. That's what sticks in my brain. It was so painful, so painful, because they would stop and be like, I have to to wait for her she's not up to us yet i'm like well we talked about that one a long time ago yeah a long time ago so when you play cards a couple the other person couldn't go any further than the other person yeah it was like that worked for them whatever i guess but it was painful but he didn't realize i don't know who made that contract i don't know either but she can come over and over again as she did yes meantime he comes once now they're sitting you and him were sitting there reading the fucking you know nursery rhymes or something like that and i had her on the floor fucking coming over and over again so it was like 45 minutes later you know and he's like well i guess you need to rewrite that contract did you you each get to come once not when you're done now you're done not when you're done oral it's when you're come once okay or maybe the fact that they realize it's like wait a minute i have the ability to come multiple times you only have the ability to come once we've got to re rethink things here because you know you're going to come once i'm going to come once he thought he looked good with long hair too but that was a whole different story that was different i don't care about that that didn't bother it's just how rigid they were like actually stopped in the middle of sex and be like i have to wait again anybody with these contracts like we just talked about the one that, you know, all of a sudden, out of clear blue, you have to go get permission. Well, why is one time you don't need permission, but the next time you got to check in, get your library card out? Well, here's the thing. If you're going to have any kind of rules, make them consistent and do them with all your partners. You know, or, you know, or if you're just doing it with your husband, make sure it's consistent with your spouse or partner you touch her last she's yours yeah it's always been his role that's true yep notice nobody's claimed to me and why do you keep walking over and touch me again it's like god damn i knew i i was on to you i'm on to you mister i'm so on to you. Like a leech. Suck your blood like a leech. Yeah. Your life out of me. I did not say that. You did. I did not say that. I'm telling you what it is. I don't know how to call it, brother. I don't suck the life out of you. I'm a life leech. Amen. Anyway. All right. So that was kind of our topic, was just how contracts are kind of part of relationships. Yeah. They're part of your marriage, if you have one. Part of, if you're dating, technically you have one. You have to have a contract. If you're in the lifestyle, technically you have one. So think about it. And make sure you're dating technically you have to have a if you're in the lifestyle a contract so think about it and make sure you both are on board with it and if your contract involves others to know about it fucking tell them all right man info hot wave podcast stay horny
