Cheating - Not Happy or a Fetish?

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hi this is Donna Lynn and welcome to my Hot Wife podcast where we discuss all the good, the bad, and the really erotic of the swinger lifestyle. And they're really neurotic. Of course, of course you would say that well welcome everybody this is donna lynn and welcome to my hot white podcast i guess our uh last show that was live kind of got sidetracked yeah but we're supposed to be talking about cheating that well this is to make up for the show that the live show we did um was that last week? Last Sunday. Last Sunday, yeah. By the time this airs, it'll be two Sundays ago.

Here we go again with that shit. Stop it. Do math. The original topic was supposed to be about cheating. Cheating. Is it a fetish? Yep.

And I mean, are people cheating and not realizing it's something that actually turns them on or you know and funny thing is we had the lovely lady jay call in right and kind of talked about cheating so we kind of got away from talking about the subject but talked about it it was her experience yeah so it just took a whole different avenue in a great way oh my god yeah okay so before we get into it okay first things first okay um you can reach out to us at hotwifepodcast at gmail.com and you can see all the places to find donna's stuff and uh everything at uh hotwifedonnalyn.com.

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It doesn't have a taste from what you tell me no it doesn't and it's great for the two hours of anal fisting that you love to do every night so you're telling them that and they don't get the the joke the joke there's a joke there's a whole another show my husband is notorious for making uh outlandish you're saying i i have a sense of humor um just a little do you want to get into it now we have to kind of explain oh yeah that it's funny go ahead you explain it because it's your little thing that you always do when my eldest daughter oldest daughter whichever daughter one of my daughters live with us um yeah she was 18 19 at the time and you know she was very uh no one wanted to think about their father mother or stepmother in your case um having sex you know just you know even though that's how you came about we don't want to think about it you know and so just to really get her goat every night when our bedroom was upstairs um as we were going to bed before she did um i'd just make some outlandish comment like all right circus night i said we putting the trapeze up tonight or or hey it's it's the zoo night which which animal might sound like tonight when we have sex and she's like that's disgusting so um so with that concept i when i it wasn't something I said in front of her.

No. I think she had moved out. I kicked her out. Was she married? No, no, she was out of the house. She was out of the house at the time.

And just in that same whimsical way that I do, I said to Donna one night, Donna had said something like kind of terse towards i said you keep that shit up i'm not going to give you your two hours of anal fisting tonight and it's in front of her fiance no no no no we had started the joke you're jumping way ahead sorry in your true way you do tell the punchline before you tell the joke that's not true yeah so we had started that joke between us of like oh yeah keep it up you're not gonna get you two hours two hours of anal fisting that's the joke that was a joke so some time later don't know what the time frame was and things had happened um apparently i uh must have said something like that in front of my son-in-law, who is a very quiet young man and is not known for any sense of humor.

And my daughter and son-in-law were over for dinner, and again, Donna had said something, and I go, keep it up. You're not going to get you two hours of anal fisting. And all of a sudden, my daughter goes, son of a bitch, that's where he gets it from. I said, who else? I said, what the fuck are you talking about? I don't know. I don that's where he gets it from. I said, who else? I said, what the fuck are you talking about? She goes, he keeps saying that shit to me. And I was like, where the fuck did you get that from? And she goes, I should have known. She goes, that's you, dad.

I'm like, yeah, that's me. Who else is saying two hours of anal fisting? So our son-in-law was saying two hours. I can't even imagine him, those words coming out of his mouth. That would be funny in itself, watching this tall Irish guy who's very quiet, very mild. Just sit there and say two hours of anal fisting. I'd pay to see them.

It's not something that he would ever say in any way shape or form yeah but yeah so i even to this day sometimes every once in a while throw in there it's like it's getting late i'm only gonna be able to give you one hour of anal fisting tonight yep so she's like if i can't have three i don't want any so i i said okay i'll stay up late she's like no. So anyway. So spunk glue would be really great for two hours of anal fisting. It's got a lot of purposes. Anal fisting is definitely one of them. I don't know. I would assume if that is something that both parties are consenting to.

I would try that. I would try using that. I can't speak to it. Oh, you would try.

i would use it on my fist to put up your ass okay i see where this is going let's put this way if someone was dumb enough to try to put something in my ass i would prefer they use that before i kill them so don't worry i just you can treat your nails all you fucking want well i just painted them i'm not to be sticking them up your ass god damn right you're not it doesn't matter if you painted it or not you don't go near my ass anyway nope that's okay for all sorts of reasons there's a reason that's like no thank you I can go off at any time it could be dangerous I'm so glad we had that and yours is so pristine fucking taco shit my daughter made it oh my god it was terrible i was i was but she said dad she goes you realize i used taco bell seasoning we had taco bell cheese on it we had taco bell this goes, it was like eating a Taco Bell because we used real meat.

I'm like, I'm fine with that. My colon's fine. I said, Donna? Not so much. No. I mean, I was just- EPA shut us down. I'm telling you. We're the first podcast shut down by the EPA. Oh, it was god awful. It was terrible. Like, what the fuck is that coming out of my hands? So, yes, we are human, folks. We are human. So, anyway, back to cheating. Wow, there's 180 fucking degrees. Now the brakes pull the part of me. Cut the fucking wheel, remember? We're going the other direction now. Hey, you brought up the two hours of anal fisting. No, you did. You did. I can play this shit back. Okay. I did.

I did it. It's my fault. Well, I was talking about spunk loop, and he's like, oh, it's good for two hours of anal fisting. Do we remember that? Okay, you're right. Yeah. Hang on. Dog! Earned that one, bitch. Yes, I did. All right. So I wanted to explore the aspect for people who cheat on their significant other. Let's look at the different aspects of cheating. Shall we? Okay. We shall. Do you, I mean, okay, I understand people cheat because they might not be happy, like I do. You can't cheat if you're allowed. See, and there you go. That's part of it. It takes the fun out of it.

That's what it does. It does. But anyway, so there's people who cheat because they're not happy, whether it be sexually or whatever reason, okay? Yeah, I get it. I'm not condoning it. Just saying it happens. Just say it happens. Okay. But is there an aspect to the cheating? Because there is a fetish cheating wife or whatever, okay? Oh, yeah. So, and generally, I think the cheating wife fetish, the husband knows. Oh, yeah. It's sort of like cheating. It's a hot wife thing. It's a hot wife. Yeah. I think the cheating wife is the hot wife.

It's like's like yeah my wife is out on a date with somebody else and gonna fuck them right so technically by most standards she's cheating on me but she's not because i gave her permission i set the date up or whatever it's like wink wink nod nod yeah she's cheating she's a dirty little whore she's a bad girl but it's like yeah right If you say that a little slower in a deeper voice, it could be erotic. She's a dirty little whore. There we go. No, no, right. If you say that a little slower in a deeper voice, it could be erotic. She's a dirty little whore. There we go. Not her. Say I.

I'm a dirty little whore. I'm cheating on you. Okay, show's over, folks. But then again, if someone is cheating on their significant other, are they doing it solely because they're not happy? Or is there maybe some aspect that they find it, it's like fucking in public. Mm-hmm. You know, the risk of getting caught. Mm-hmm. It's your dirty little secret. You know? I mean, it might break down to, are they trying to have a relationship with somebody else or are they just out fucking around? Hmm. I'm trying to think of all the times I cheated. I was quite the cheater. You weren't quite the cheater.

You did a few times. I did a few times, yeah. I didn't want to. I mean, I wanted to be in a regular relationship. I wasn't sure about it. So I fucked this guy like five, six different times. I was like, do I really want to be doing this? Fuck me one more time. The jury's still out. I can't make up my mind. I think it's because I just wasn't satisfied in the relationship. It lacked excitement. Okay. Now, so we're going to venture off a little bit off of cheating. The lack of excitement, is that due to routine? Did you get comfortable and settled in?

Or was it that the person you were with just wasn't exciting? It could be a little bit of both in my case and that's where i think the swinging world as we've talked about has helped us not that we're routine by any stretch obviously people who wasn't this podcast will understand we're just not that normal no not we need professional help. I don't care. I don't want any. I've talked to professional help, and they're now seeking professional help. You fucked them up that bad, huh? Kind of. All right, well, there you go. Look at the Mormons who came to our house.

They left the house scratching their head going, Oh, my God. I never thought of it that way. But anyway, different show. That's a different show for sure. But anyway, yeah. Poor little Mormons. That's all right. Hey, we'll talk to anybody. We are very open to talking to anybody. But anyway, so. Case in point. Yeah, I mean, so, yeah. Well, that gets into, if you're in a relationship that is not fulfilling. It's like a choice of words. Is that not a good choice of words? I'm thesaurus. I got my thesaurus right here. I got impressed when I came up with that word. Not fulfilling.

I didn't use satisfying. I used fulfilling. Look at you. Using a synonym. I'm just. I love synonym. Shut shut up i need to do that anyway um so but so in both respects is it something because you're not being fulfilled or and adding to it the aspect of that you feel dirty er erotic, whatever term. I don't know what you want. Again, that's never been one of my particular fetishes. I mean, I don't like having those kind of secrets where I'm worried about getting caught or slipping up or lying or whatever. As you know, I'm not a big liar. Just like, eh, here's what's going on.

Fuck you know but there's people i think that enjoy that it's it's hard to uphold it i'd give you that but it was i just wasn't getting what i needed out of the relationship and this other person was a lot more exciting but again that's only exciting because it's something new and fresh and you're not and you're not in a relationship yeah it's sort of like mickey what mickey is doing you know she kind of thinks she's looking for a relationship but she's just looking for something that is more exciting than what she has yeah but tells herself that she's looking for a relationship it, well, I'm kind of looking for a pseudo.

Pseudo relationship because she wants to maintain what she has. Her husband knows what she's doing. Doesn't condone it. It's a big thing. But anyway. It's a mess. But I almost think that in some ways, that is a fetish that she's not recognizing. That she's out banging these guys. Yeah. And her husband knows she's doing, it doesn't know when or where she's doing it or who she's doing it with. I mean, I see the eroticism in it. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

I mean, it's like we've talked about, we've talked about the mystery man and you've had a couple of people email us about they want to volunteer to be a mystery man. Oh, they didn't tell me. Go figure. Wow. Yeah, she's smart. I want to fuck you and have you not know it's me. Oh, sure.

but yeah so it's me oh sure um but um yeah so it's you know again i look at the cheating thing how i came up with the topic was do people and i'm joking there are people who cheat because they're legitimately not happy you know and they're they kind of get in a relationship so they're trying to fulfill something they don't have maybe yeah it could fill a void that they don't have in their regular relationship or you know you're always sure over five foot yeah that's me mm-hmm that's that's exactly yeah um but but the people who like just like how many Swingle, Swingle, yeah, I've been drinking bourbons since six.

Oh my God. Yeah, it's good. Um. He's not an alcoholic, no, not even a little bit. I'm not. I can stop any time the bottle runs empty. Um. Okay. But no. No.

So you broke my train of thought by calling me an alcoholic but okay no the guys who are on on the in in the swing lifestyle okay that are married and they're out trying to get as much as they can okay they're not looking for a relationship okay but they're trying to fulfill something that they might not be getting or so they claim we don't know yeah we don't know okay we don't we don't go and say well i'm going to meet your wife and find out if it's really that way oh she's getting away your husband came over to fuck and he says that you're not putting out is that the truth and you're cognitive that he's um see i can't be too drunk i use the word cognitive oh yeah and i use it properly in a sentence because if you were really drunk you would not be cognitive cognitive it's cognitive no yeah there's a lot of them that you know and you hear the whole backstory like oh she's this she's that and i'm just i'm just looking for something you know to so again so is that the fetish is it really a fetish that they're not recognizing as a fetish okay like there's this one gentleman who you just talked about he texted you you today.

He had texted you, and you guys had talked, and he was all hot and bothered. Oh, yeah, all hot and bothered. We still haven't met the gentleman face-to-face. No, I don't know if we ever will. I don't think we will. He's like, I'll bring a friend over. I'll bring a girlfriend over. I'll bring a friend over. He showed me pictures, and she's hot. I'll bring the team I coach over. I'll bring, you know. Yeah. You know, and then it came time to, and we said, no, dude, we need to meet one-on-one. Right. Let's just, you and, yeah, us just meet and just see how it goes.

Yeah, let's first see if you're real. Yeah. You know, you can see if we're real. Exactly. And so it came time to show up. He, I can't come. I got to take care of my kids and my wife's not home. It's like, whoa. We just never disclosed this. We were never, no. The wife thing wasn't brought up, nor was the kids. No, no. You were like, yeah, dude, I'm bringing the, you know, fucking half the city with me. It's like, what the fuck? So, and we've had others that, you know, we've talked to that, you know, again, that's not our problem.

If you're in a relationship in whichever way it is, married, dating, whatever, and you're not including them, let's put it that way. I'm not going to use a cheating word. Oops, I just did. If you're not including them in the activities, whether it be physically or knowledge. Right, right. That's not our problem. Again, we don't condone it, but yeah. We don't condone it.

I don't understand don't understand it but okay yeah well so and that's what i'm trying to say is is it maybe without being recognized is it a fetish that they enjoy again we don't know because we don't know if what we're being told is the truth exactly could all be bullshit for all we know yeah and there's so many quote unquote playing with permission guys oh my gosh it's like sure you are i can't say maybe you are maybe you're not yeah i don't know yeah i don't ask for a permission slip signed by their wife i think we should start asking for that.

I need a video testimonial from your wife, please. Hi. Now, we do have one that the woman sent her husband here. Yes. That was kind of erotic. That was kind of erotic. Yeah, she was pregnant. And she's more into the BDSM thing. He's not. So she wanted him to go get, like, regular sex that she doesn't enjoy. Hmm, interesting. I forgot, or I didn't remember that she was in the BDSM. Okay, interesting. Yeah, that was part of the story of it, yeah. And, I mean, I conversed with her about it. She was like, oh, no, I just, you know. No, but you conversed via email? Yeah, I can't confirm it was her.

See, it could be just all him. You know, there's generally a vibe I get when I meet the people. Right. There's people that have never confessed that they were cheating or whatever. But you can kind of tell. This gentleman, I kind of get the feeling he wasn't cheating. He wasn't lying. Right. Yeah. Well, usually if they're cheating, they stay far away from the discussion of wife. What are you doing? What do you have in your mouth? Teeth from my skull broke up. Why are you chewing on them?

No, I chewing on them no oh he was silly yeah hopefully he had these things in his mouth and distracted me well i i found out the guys are cheating stay far far away from any discussion about wife girlfriend relationships they well but if they don't have a wife or girlfriend do they talk about it no they't. Well, there you go. That's why. They think if I don't talk about it. But I had this discussion with Mickey. She's like, well, some of these guys, you know, she's like, I'd like to form a relationship where, you know, like maybe take me out for dinner or something like that, and they don't.

They don't, you know, oh, my schedule. It's like they're married or we're dating. Yep, there's somebody else there. You know, there's a good portion. I'm going to generalize, okay, and I could be completely off. Probably not. Probably am, yeah. Shut the fuck up. Okay. The guys over 30 that claim to be single. Probably are not. Well, or they're divorced. And there's a reason they're divorced. Well, wait a minute. Not necessarily their fault. Okay. I was going to say, wait a minute, you were divorced? Yeah. But when I was divorced, I wasn't in the lifestyle. No, because I got...

We were together. Well, I left my wife wife lived in my car for four months and we got together oh that sounds like i said oh look at him he's got his own car give me a homeless guy anything he'll do anything for a bowl of soup give me a guy down on his luck he'll be happy with happy with me. I'm going to look like a cat. The way he sleeps in the back of that Beretta. I'm telling you. I'm going to look like such a cat. Anyway, that's another show.

But, no, I mean, these guys that um they don't have time like you know like the gentleman you're talking with today you know he was texting me and he's like i'm you know i'd like to you know become friends where we can hang out and everything else yeah i mean we're all about that but there's a lot of guys who's just like you know and you've seen it oh yeah like i am free today can we fuck it's like no dude it's yeah i mean we're all about that but there's a lot of guys who's just like you know and you've seen it oh yeah like hey i'm free today can we fuck it's like no dude it's not a come dump yeah yeah you know so yeah there's one guy who always reaches out to me hey free tonight i'm like well you have a couple guys yeah one guy hey i got a lunch break can i stop by I blocked him yeah lunch break it's like oh come on we eat lunch right Okay, hey, I got a lunch break.

Can I stop by? I blocked him. Lunch break is like, oh, come on. You eat lunch, right? Yeah, but. Not out of your lunch, pal, bitch. Oh, that's good. With what you call meat, I become a vegan. Anyways, I'm not bitter. um but yeah so i so i i just think that on some levels the guy the people i'm sure it happens on the female side i'm looking for those women who want to cheat on their husbands my number is tell us to call the podcast just email you from the podcast and then But, yeah, I think there's a certain level of eroticism for it. And, again, I think Mickey's kind of going through that.

I think it's because it's taboo. It's one of the taboos. Well, sure. You're not supposed to be doing that, oh, you're a dirty person. Whatever. You're a slutty person. If you're doing something that, you know, obviously you're a dirty person whatever you're well slutty you're doing something that you know obviously you're sick and your significant other wouldn't want you to do and you might be doing things that your significant other you don't do with them that's probably true you know like um i know for a fact mickey has a couple of things that she didn't do with her significant other. Ooh.

So. That makes it even more dirty, doesn't it? And I actually think she's starting to explore a couple more avenues. I'm not sure. I haven't really talked to her a whole lot lately. I'm telling you, that box is open, man. I don't know where it's going to end. I hope it doesn't crash and burn. That's all I can say, man. It's getting hot and heavy, man. It's just going like a train, you know, a train on that track, man. It's just going faster and faster and faster. She is really close to a nymphomaniac. Yeah, she really is. You know, I mean, this show is going to air after our Sunday show.

And our Sunday show, we're having Angelina on. Oh, my God, another nymphomaniac. Yeah, more so. She makes Mickey look like Mickey's a nun. Yep. Makes me look like I'm ultra nun. You're a virgin. I'm a virgin. Your pussy lips are sewn shut. Your cherry'sries intact you don't even know what a penis is yep that's true i mean they fucking it's like i'm still horny it's like oh my god oh dear into we know we've witnessed a few times she has got the sex drive the energy the orgasm level beyond again hopefully we'll we're going to uncover that on the Sunday show that you've heard already.

So by the time you're hearing this, you've already heard it. So we don't need to rehash that. Let's go back to cheating. We keep trying to talk about this topic. Other women, other wild women, take us away. Take us away. I don't know what's going on here. Stop it.

We're trying to have an intellectual conversation here.'s the problem intellectual mind us and intellectual not not even on the same page so um well you were always faithful to your significant others i mean with me it doesn't matter because it doesn't count but i mean with your first one yeah always i mean you had chances well there's a whole lot of problems i had my first one anyway right i mean i wasn't allowed to be me right well that i think my photography sucked and i was there because i couldn't be me right um and then once i got away from her and got near you the whole world opened up oh well i let you be you and you let me be me we had a different relationship than most people get together we won't go into it because it will be boring you to tears yeah I know but no I didn't cheat I had offers to cheat and why would you if you cheated, what is the number one or what are the list of things that would have made you cheat?

If I would have cheated on my first, it would have been because she didn't ever, like, one, I couldn't be me. Right. Two, nothing I ever did was right. It was sort of like growing up with my parents. And, yeah, I, you know, supposedly being the significant other wasn't me to feel significant. So you felt insignificant? Very. So that would actually, I can understand that. I mean, even to the point, like we had talked about, we haven't done this on air yet, like, you know, I'd gotten her into swinging.

But again, it was all, she was allowed to play with a guy, but I wasn't allowed to touch a woman until one time, and then that ended that. Yeah, she got all pissy, I remember. Yeah, because I tore the shit out of her best friend. Made her best friend, who never had an orgasm other than a vibrator, have, like, fucking 20. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, take that. Goddamn right. Um, yeah, no, she was very downtrodden. So if I would have cheated on her, it would have been to have some self. Well, you would have been the one that was downtrodden. That's what I meant. She was very downtrodden to me.

I'm sorry. So I would have cheated if I did and I didn't. If I would have cheated on her, it would have been to get some self-worth back. That's valid. Yeah. I can see that. Well, why did you cheat on yours? Like I said, I was... Same basic thing, wasn't it? Well, you had one that kept accusing you of cheating. Oh, that's true. And you weren't. And I wasn't. So you're doing the time, so I might as well do the crime. I might as well do the crime. And then when it happened, it was like, see, I told you you're cheating. You actually knew you did. Yeah, eventually, yeah. It came out in the wash.

Oh, did you? Oh, okay. It came out in the wash eventually. I was like, well, I was accused for the crime already. I was already, you know, I should really, you know, this is one thing I had, I told you this before. I should really wrap you in it. He called it a shroud. He meant like, put me like in a burka. Yeah. I should wrap you in a shroud so people don't look at you. For you, it's more of a pillowcase. A pillowcase, yeah, I'm tiny, so yeah. Four foot eleven, yep. Put this pillowcase on, I don't want men looking at you. It's got holes in it. Two eyes.

You look like Cousin Hitt with a pillowcase. Yeah. Yep, yep. It's like, he was so insecure. That's the whole problem.

That's, he literally pushed me away and pushed me into that situation and we've talked about that you cannot be a swinger couple if you're not secure with yourselves and each other that's if you're not secure in the relationship that you have absolutely right if you think you're significant other is going to leave you because somebody else makes them have an orgasm or smile or whatever whatever then yeah you shouldn't be doing it you shouldn't be doing it absolutely right yeah and and the thing was it's like the other relationships i was uh the guys i cheated on my significant other with it wasn't like i was really looking for another relationship i just wanted self-validation sure and and the excitement it was exciting sure it was something new it was exciting it was again i've mentioned this on there too.

When your significant other sits there and says, you're sexy, you're beautiful, whatever, it's great. And I got a cough. Okay, sorry. But when somebody else tells you, it means more. It's not stupid, but yeah, it does. Well, you expect it from your significant other. Yeah. You sit there and go, okay, yeah, thanks. Yeah, you're supposed to tell me that. Yeah, You sit there and go, okay, yeah, thanks. Yeah, you're supposed to tell me that. Yeah, no. Some people say, honey, your ass is fat. And I just say, shut up, Donna. Actually, so you say, Vince, your ass is flat. Disappeared.

Yeah, I don't know. Do these shirts make my ass look flat? I don't know. I don't know if I can hold my belt up. I see that a lot with men. It stops at my balls. I didn't have balls. My pants would fall right the fuck off. Anyway. Good thing you have big balls. Yeah. Just saying. Yeah, that's what I keep saying every time. Anyway. Good thing. Thank you, God, for the big balls. He's out in your prayers every night. Bless my children. Keep us safe. Thanks for my big testicles. God, we thank you for my talented tongue.

Amen gave me one talent but did you cheat the boyfriend before me did you cheat on him technically if you go by the dates I technically not with me i'm gonna talk about that oh okay no yeah there was a week overlap yeah a week overlap i said technically it was all really down and out it was i'm saying before you and i no no no and you really should have i should have on him you're should have on him. You're right. Yeah. Because he was such a douchebag. Now, technically. Technically. You had, you know, when you were dancing. Oh, my microphone went up a little. I'll never turn it down.

You had some guys you did couch dances for and made them come in their pants. So he might consider that cheating. Too bad. Wow, that was good. I don't care. Damn, Morris hadn't left the air yet. Well, in that aspect, I didn't have. Damn, Morris hadn't left the air yet. Well, in that aspect, I didn't have... Let's go back to the show. Is that cheating? Yeah, exactly. Let's reference that one. Well, you know what? See, that's something we didn't think about on that show. So if you go... Not me, because I'm not that talented. Okay. I'll use that verbiage. It's not correct. Like the guys who...

I think we told we told the story about mr i'll be the best section your hand lasted like two minutes yeah so if that if if a married man goes into a strip bar gets a couch dance right and the girl is not touching her touching him with her hands his clothes are on and he still comes and she dry humps his dry humps him on top of his pants that he blows a load in his pants is that cheating i don't know no no no no because there's no breaking of the plane and he's being stimulated from outside the relationship so somebody might but it could have just been the conversation It could have been He could have been watching TV So many strippers are just beyond They're just The intellect is just amazing The mental stimulation going on I mean they're like They're to like, they have the form of the universe at their fingertips.

Did you see they discovered a 12th moon on Saturn? Oh my God. Oh my God. Exactly. Oh my God. Tell me about Pluto. Tell me about Pluto. No, the one at Disney. The one at Disney. So not right. No, I am right. I'm not laughing. But, yeah, so, again, cheating kind of thing we're talking about here is, you know, we did a cheating show, didn't we? We talked about it. Is that cheating? We touched upon it. Yeah. But we want to talk more, is it a fetish? The fetish of cheating. This is more the fetish, like the taboo. Yeah. Is it, are these people?

Okay, so yeah, that cheating, the one where he triumphs her first show, not this one. Okay. Yeah, it is interesting. It is exciting. There is an exciting aspect of it that's very erotic. Yeah, it is interesting. It is exciting. There is an exciting aspect of it that's very erotic. It gets back to my concept of I don't think we're meant to be sexually monogamous. You know, I would have disagreed with you, but more and more. Most of the times you do. Well, I look at my history. It's like I cheated on this person. I cheated on this person. Why did I cheat?

It's because maybe we're not supposed to be sexually monogamous. Well, okay, look at it on a simpler level, okay? Do you look at people and, like, because men do, so we'll just rule men out, I'm going to ask you. Okay, ask me. Do you look at someone and go, yeah, that fucked up? I might look at someone and say, he's really cute, or he's a nice-looking guy. See, men tend to, and I'm speaking for myself. Hey, I'd fuck you. It's like, no, men in their head go, oh, yeah, I'd fuck that. Yeah, exactly. Or they're like, yeah, I'd fuck that, but I wouldn't tell anybody.

Then there's the ones like, ooh, no. No? You couldn't pay me enough to fuck that. Like, we're a real treat. Yeah, yeah. They're like, I'm doing her a favor, but fuck it. You're like, you know, I generally don't fuck supermodels, but. For you, I'll do that. All right, Heidi Klum. Jesus Christ, again. Yeah, like. No, I don't usually think that way. I usually think, oh, they're attractive and just leave it go at that. Yeah, and that's normal. We've had this discussion with women, and women say, oh, he's attractive. He's attractive. They don't jump automatically to sex. I think Mickey might.

Mickey might. And I even think Angelina definitely does. I think Angelina forms it before she even hears her voice. No, she just looks at him. Yeah, I'd fuck him. Yep. Well, she has a certain category, though. Well, yeah, she has all sorts. Stipulation. You're going to hear about that on the show you've heard already. She has criteria.

God help you if you fit into the criteria she's looking for dude you better have taken your vitamins you better have like fucking she will fuck your brains out oh my god oh my god i've witnessed it i haven't been part of it no i have i have eaten her pussy a bunch of times and i was the first person to anally violate her with a cigar. Oh, I didn't know that. She was on a podcast. I remember the podcast. She came the first time I met her. I didn't even know her for 10 minutes yet. And I was licking her asshole and fucked her with a cigar in her asshole. And then she wanted more.

So I pulled the cigar out, pulled the asshole out. Might want to see a doctor. I hope we didn't come in detached. You know, it was a big cigar. So actually I was licking her asshole, then I flipped her around and I licked her pussy. I remember that. Oh, my God. It was hot, yeah. She was like squealing and wiggling and... Yeah, she's something, she's something. That's fucking funny. Jesus Christ, she's something. Did I say she's something yet? She's something. She's something. But again, you've heard that already. I don't know what. We're recording this before tomorrow night.

We're recording the live show and she'll be on it. I have no idea what you've heard at this point. We have no idea what package is going to be on that. And I want to say that because this is coming after this so what the show before this one with angelina was about back to the future where we're going to go where it's going to go i don't know you never know the same is there's another woman i'm going to try to connect with uh talk to her not too too long ago and she was game for it she's going through a little bit bit of ankle recovery. She had some ankle problems. Okay.

And her house is on a hill and a lot of steps. She is a Tourette's woman. Oh, my God. And it was both erotic and funny as hell making this woman come. And she's a squirter.

So she's a squirting Tourette's and when she's coming the things that come out of her mouth we're gonna do that live on air we have oh it's gonna be a show unlike any other oh my god so I you told me about it I don't even get into what she yells no no no i'm gonna tell you that once we have that show up you're not gonna want to listen to that show someplace where people could hear you laugh and you could very well be you might want to laugh or you might want to masturbate i'm not sure i don't know i don't know where that it's gonna be interesting either way and um but anyway back to the cheating thing i'm sorry i'm but yeah angelina tomorrow uh well for us it's tomorrow for you it was the day before whatever show before yeah it's um hang on man she's a fucking roller coaster yeah she is man yeah she is it's like i never know what angie which angelina is going to be well they're all the same angelina but you don't know to what level yeah yeah whether you're gonna be in first gear or fucking 15th gear oh yeah you don't know it's only a five speed engine baby she's got this fucking turbocharged yeah so god bless her love her to death.

She's a great woman. She's great, but man, oh man. And you won't be able to see it. She has got damn near a perfect body. Damn near. It is tight as a drum. Yeah, for a woman who's my age, she's 56 or 57. Yep, yep. She has the body of a 25-year-old who works out incessantly. Well, she doescessantly well she does yeah but i'm saying you can't tell if you you wouldn't when you see her body and that will come to light soon soon you will see that she has the body of a 25 year old and she thinks she's fat oh my god yeah she I talked to her.

She's like, yeah, I didn't eat for a couple of days because I wanted to drop some weight, and people told me I was too thin, but I like what I see. I'm like, well, I need the corn out of her shit to see where it came from. And I've seen where it comes from. Yeah, but you'd be eating shit. No, just the corn. Oh, just the corn. Just the corn. Then it's fine. That's not disgusting. No, not at all. Shit, I'm eating corn too. I mean, really, I like corn. I'm hoping it's still in the cob. Oh, no. Yeah, I hope too. This is some funky looking butter that I'm telling you. Well, yeah, butt butter.

So we kind of covered a topic. So it's something to think about. If you are someone who cheats or have considered cheating, are you cheating solely because you're not happy with the person you're with? Are you cheating because it's kind of a fetish? It's kind of erotic. Kind of a dirty little thing. I mean, I own my fetish.

I enjoy, I'm a voyeur i enjoy watching donna give and or receive and i'm an exhibitionist and i she likes to do it get fucked um i i like knowing that you're there sure you know that when we had um i think next week is the party yeah i know so it would be the same thing again. I like knowing that you were in the same room. Well, even if I'm not there, you like doing it so that you can share that with me later. That's true, too. But it's just a little more. I don't know what that fetish would be called. I don't know. I know it's a fetish. I just don't know what it would be called.

The following Sunday after this podcast comes out, stay with me, folks. Oh, no. We're going to be talking about the party because that will be the live show. We'll talk about the party, which happened the day before the live broadcast. Yep. It will be next Saturday. I've been drinking. Quick note to everyone.

We have reached a whole new plateau with listeners i know you keep showing me the grass i am i am um you say this every show i know but i'm every show gets higher i'm humbled i mean again i've asked you guys i've asked everyone to the challenge is to go and find one other person to share the show with and uh thank you I mean, again, I've asked you guys, I've asked everyone to, the challenge is to go and find one other person to share the show with. And some people have done it, apparently. I'm so sorry. I feel so bad. I feel so bad.

You want to kill some time and see that your life's not so bad? Listen to these people. It'll make you feel like, your life is great. At least we're not as bad as Donnana and listen to this you moron good lord their life is terrible they're married i'm glad they're off the market so no one has a deal i know but um and uh ask you to if you go to our website which is hotwifepodcast.com you can not only there's a button on there to follow us on twitter which again our numbers have come numbers have come up a little bit on that. We're still trying to grow that number.

I keep liking the stuff you put up. Yeah, and I keep retweeting yours. It's just us retweeting our own crap. We don't care. It's all fun. It's all fun. You know, again, I want to bring up, not necessary, I'm just telling you. Again, I'm going to ask you to tell one person to tell however many people you can about the podcast and see if they want to listen. That'd be great. I appreciate that. We are not asking you for money. If there's something you think you want to, you would like to, we've had a person or two ask to contribute to the show because we pay for it all ourselves.

It's our therapy. There's on our website, hotwifepodcast.com, there is a little donate button. You can donate whatever you want. Helps pay the electricity. Hey, yeah, whatever. Buys me some, you know, bourbon or whatever. Oh, God, please. Buys Donna batteries. Oh, well, batteries we need. Bourbon, not so much. Just saying. Just saying. Really? You got a bottle over there? You got a hole? What's your point? You have batteries somewhere in here. I'm sure there's vibrators somewhere in this room. I don't. God gave you fingers. You don't need batteries. God didn't give me bourbon.

You have enough willing participants. You don't even need batteries. How many? Oh hate it when you you win an argument you suck mister it's like oh he has a point god damn it get on your phone and one of the like 75 text messages you get a day go, I want to fuck. The rubber steps. I'm here. Got a hard penis for you. Penis delivery. Penis delivery. It's not an Amazon, but it's mine. Direct deposit. One penis, no waiting. So, but again, I want to thank everyone. Please email us with any comments or questions or whatever. We love hearing from everybody. We've heard from a few people. Yeah, we do.

We really do. We're hearing more and more. I'm trying to answer them. Yeah yeah it's it's uh it's uh surreal and i really feel humbled and appreciative of everyone who enjoys the show um i agree again we never thought this would be anything no we never did yes staring each other talking and which we do quite a lot actually put a gun to my fucking head just blow the prayer for death I don't know.

and which we do put a gun to my fucking head just pray for death it's really cool like when i i correspond with people that we're really not that that morbid truly i pray for death i'm just gonna say that you fucker jinx i didn't say i pray for death Really Really, we have a happy... I'm going to engine the fall of an airplane and cross through the ceiling and crush me. Really, we have a happy relationship, I swear. I've never been happier. Yeah, my fingers crossed. I've never been happier. I've never been happier to stick razor blades up my asshole. And sit on alcohol.

um no so again uh if if we provide any source of uh entertainment certainly no information no no valuable information that's why we have we have to have that disclaimer at the beginning of the show if you're listening to this for professional information you're fucked you are so fucked yeah if you think it's professional information you need to get professional help because these people are fucked i snorted on that one yeah that's like the first time i heard just snort us as professional I snorted on that one. That's like the first time I heard you snort. Us as professionals. Well, you know.

Oh, no. Assholes could be professional, I guess. I guess. I don't even know. I'm curious. How many people actually listen to the podcast to the very end? I don't even know. I don't know either. I'm sure Stephen Land listens to it. Well, there's a bunch of people. I mean, again, God bless you all, really. And I mean that. We've had comments from a lot of you listeners that are like, oh, in this episode you were talking about this and that. And I'm going to be quite honest with you. We don't listen to this. We don't listen to our podcast. I don't want to ruin the spontaneity.

Well, quite honest with you we don't listen to you just we don't listen to our podcast i don't i know i don't want to ruin the spontaneity we're not just that i don't listen to myself um i just had to listen to one because i edit one for right for somebody um but um were you cringing yeah yeah um and yeah i just um i don't know where i was going with it but it's just uh it's yeah we don't pay attention we say so much it means so little let me speak for myself but uh no again our conversations that we have here are very spontaneous they're not planned we have no script nope we say this is the topic and then we wait till we hit the go button and then we go then Yeah, that's true.

spontaneous they're not planned we have no script no we say this is the topic and then we wait till we hit the go button and then we go then yeah and uh so um again we invite you all on sundays to go to our website hotwifepodcast.com and uh the phone number is there you can call in join the conversation, ask ask us questions. And, you know, we appreciate everyone. We really do. Yeah, we really thank you. Yeah, it's, again, we're not really making any money with this or anything. We're not trying to. We're having fun. It is a lot of fun. It's really therapy.

We need money for therapy, but that's a different story. So I want to thank everyone. And have a great night, and talk to you next podcast. All right, everybody. Have a great night. We'll see you next time.