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Conversation discussing various sex symbols throughout the decades, including Marilyn Monroe, James Dean, Madonna, and more. We talk about how body types and beauty standards have evolved over time. We also mention modern-day sex symbols like Jennifer Aniston and Scarlett Johansson. The importance of the discussion lies in exploring societal perceptions of beauty and how they have changed over the years. A light-hearted conversation and touches on personal opinions about different celebrities' attractiveness. We encourage listeners to engage with the podcast and share their thoughts. The podcast provides a nostalgic look at past and present sex symbols, highlighting the ongoing fascination with beauty and attractiveness in popular culture.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/hot-wife-podcast-and-the-swinger-lifestyle--5343522/support. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hi, this is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot Wife Podcast, where we discuss all the good, the bad, and the really erotic of the swinger lifestyle hello everybody once again this is donna lin and welcome to my hot wife podcast and there i am with my wonderful husband vince i hate saying that anymore because you're always like you're not i'm not wonderful anymore oh no you're so wonderful dear you're the most wonderful i'll beat you in this image no i can't even joke about that anymore no no i can't i know i know what happened to romance yeah just do it all right so all right so we're to talk about first there's two two things well i know the topic well first of all if you can reach out to us hotwifepodcast at gmail.com um spunk lube can't forget spunk lube can't forget spunk lube a great great product uh jeff great guy who owns a company um go to spunklube.com and, you know, look at the product.
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Yeah yeah um complain about that is there we see what you're doing who i'm doing i'm still wiping some of the you know leftover jizz out of my eye what are you talking about never mind you'll find out later okay you can find me at hotwipedown.com wait wait while i was you were just out and about and i had a friend over and i have a little surprise for you afterwards hopefully you're taking a shower apparently i have to do louse of course but yeah we um just videotaped our fun so i can harass you and tease you and yeah all that kind of fun stuff so he got me like all over my face somebody i know yes of course uh so it like dried on my face i'm like wiping i'm like oh i still i don't do a great job of getting it off my face with the wet wipes it's still like crusty on my face oops sorry about that well the cat was away the mice will play There you go.
Did you have a good time? I had a great time. I had a really good time. I think this is a guy that I've played with quite a few times, so we know each other. I mean, for those who are listening about this, one of our rules is to be safe and honesty.
And we don't play with anyone, more a factor for you than me but um that we haven't met and approved for safety reasons exactly yeah i don't want her meeting someone that all of a sudden is into smacking her around or something that's my job exactly i don't want to take that thrill away from you i mean that's that's your i look at those bruises as a badge oh honor. Oh, that's how I look at them. We're only kidding, folks. If anything, I have the bruises from her beating me. Oh, I never laid a hand on you. I didn't say they were external or internal. Oh, internal bruises?
Oh, the yelling and name-calling you do to me. Yeah, you love it. I'm only loving and kind to you. Oh, my ass. Me too. All right, well, so you had some fun. I definitely had some fun. Okay. Good time, good time. That's great. Always gets messy with him. He's got a... Oh, then I think I know who you're talking about. You definitely know who I'm talking about. He's like KFC, comes in buckets. Comes in buckets, yeah.
He's the one that always says says when he comes he could shoot the bird out of the sky yep okay i know who you're talking about yeah he could that's shit he's got some fucking reach with that thing well there was a i was telling him he hasn't seen it but there was one i i called the video he comes like a geyser and i i caught it still out of the video and his calm is like up like two feet like Yeah, he launch it down by the pool oh he launched yeah the one time down by the pool i mean yeah i mean it was a first we're not far from some airports you could take it down a plane oh yeah he has it definitely like hey i'm gonna be having a i'm gonna he's got a decent sized unit on too it is it's very comfortable it's a nice nice size it's bigger than i want.
What, in you, on you, or attached to you? To own is one thing. Okay. That's right. I knew where we were going with that. I prefer my women penis-less. There you go. But there was, like, the first time we were together, we did a POV. And he's like, I'm getting ready to come. Back up, back up. I'm like, no, no, I want this in my face.
He goes, that's what that's what i mean back up back up he could take out an eye with that thing well when he came it's like the first the first shot i guess the first yeah pulse oh shot it came like over my head and i was like what what the fuck so then the second one was a little bit lower so that got me in the face that was nice i was like oh my god you're right i should have moved back he goes yeah i was trying to tell you move back i got distance move back it takes long enough i think he has rifling in there for accuracy okay so you're smiling a lot so you must have a good time i did have a good time your cheeks are red i know my cheeks are red what the hell happened with that maybe a little embarrassed i don't know i think you're proud proud well he was like got some really good dirty talk going on so that was fun now we're like we've been together uh half a dozen times at least minimum yeah maybe a dozen times pretty close closer to a dozen and a half dozen yeah i think you're right he's a good guy he's a good guy we have a lot of yeah nice conversation now we're getting more comfortable with the dirty talk especially with you don't know somebody you're not like oh if i call her a dirty slut how is she going to take that so i started like yeah tell me i'm a dirty slut and he's like oh okay i'll call you a dirty slut okay i'm fucking some guy's wife and he's not here so yeah she's a dirty slut yeah yes it's so wonderful and it was it was fun i Thank you.
guy's wife and he's not here so yeah she's a dirty slut yeah yes it's so wonderful and it was it was fun i i liked uh being a dirty slut it was fun a lot of fun i enjoy it too and you will later on get the benefits of the uh after you shower after i do laos of course and get the power washer oh You know i like that tie it to the roof of the car take it to the car wash such a turn on get that smeg moffy kind of wash that come right outge. Yeah, like my bangs were like all like crusty. I was like, oh, he got me good. He got me an alfalfa. What was that, calic? Or what was that?
Something about Mary where she takes, he thinks it's hair gel and it's common and her hair stands up. Probably closer because it would be in the front of your face like that was. Yep, yep. Well, that's good. That's exciting. Erotic news. That's cool. A lot of fun. Good for you. It was a lot of fun. Yeah, yeah. Anytime I was just out with my buddy having a cigar. It was much fun. Thank you. It was a lot of fun. Yeah, yeah. Anytime I was just sat with my buddy having a cigar. It was much fun. No, you didn't. It was good. It was a good time. You didn't do any, like, ass eating or anything?
No, we actually smoked the cigars with our mouth. Oh, no. And we sat in separate chairs. Oh, you didn't, like, sit in his lap? Conversation. No. There was other men present. Oh, okay. No one's ass got eaten. Oh, you guys don't know how to live. All genitalia stayed inside the pants. There you go. I can't say that. At least in the spectrum that I was visiting and watching. I can't say what went on in the back room. I don't know. I wasn't invited. That's the private room you don't know anything about. I don't know. It wasn't a private room, but anyway. Yeah, so it was a very fun afternoon.
Cute trio. I'm glad that, I'm waiting for the weather to warm up a little bit. Aren't we all? Yeah, so I can do more stuff outside today. Well, it's warm today. Yeah, it was. It's 60 degrees. And when we get done this podcast, we're going to have the rest of this beer. If it's not done by the time I've done the podcast. We're going to do a little fire pit out here. I think it would be nice. Smoke a cigar and just relax and enjoy the nice weather. Yeah. And go inside, delouse you. Yeah, delouse me and have some fun. Good. So I'm all about that. Now I know why I like bourbon better.
I don't burp bourbon. Oh, yeah. Sorry, hon. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to burp my microphone. You haven't had one of those chocolate beers in a long time. I haven't had a beer in a while. It's been a few months. Yeah. I like them, but they're like a dessert beer. That's why I'm having it. Yeah. It's a chocolate, Hershey's chocolate. Hershey chocolate porter. Yeah, it's a yingling porter with Hershey's chocolate in it. Yeah, so it's very good. We've had other chocolate porters just as a little sidebar.
We've had, you know, the milk stouts and all the other ones and the chocolate milk stouts and all that, and they're good, but this one is super chocolatey, not sweet. You get poured in silver ice cream. Yeah, but it's not sweet, but that chocolate. It's more of the cocoa-y flavor. The cocoa-y, yeah. And for people who might care, and I know you don't, but I'm going to tell you. You'll hear cigars referred to as like, oh, it's very chocolatey. It doesn't taste like chocolate. It might have slight hints of cocoa, like the cocoa powder. It's not sweet. It's not sweet.
Now, they make ones that are real sweet, that are flavored. But if you smoke like a Maduro, sometimes they have cocoa notes.
Yeah, I yeah i see i like not infused but okay on to the fun stuff now so the topic you came up with the other day yeah i was i don't know what the hell i was even doing but i was doing something useless and i wasn't doing anybody for once i was not doing anybody but i'm like you know what we talked about different body types across the you know the decades you know and how uh body types is what's considered sexy or what is the norm or you know has changed over we said we weren't going to make the show about me well then we are hun it's all about you and well i thought what about sex symbols because they changed the, I don't want to use the word millennia, but I'll definitely use the word over the decades.
I want to, you know, keep it, you know, relatively modern, like, you know, the 1900s, you know, 2000s, you know, people that we know and we can, you know, relate to and how what we consider a sex symbol has changed in the last you know 50 years i've stayed tried and true i have you know i am still the quintessential oh sex symbol oh yeah that it's the rugged good looks is that what that is i was going just was rugged sorry this clock's bothered me it's not said the right time well what's wrong wrong with it wasn't set for the right time okay now it's the right time oh that really bothered you it did uh i'm a simple person just put the clock someplace else we don't see it then why have it okay are you really timing everything i don't know no no no just you know what so what's it say about me uh oh hon this was only uh hold on i i forget how many We'll be right back.
Are you really timing everything? I don't know. No. Just, you know. So what's it say about me? Oh, hon, this was only, hold on. I forget how many. I AI'd this. Okay. So, crap, I have to put my glasses on. Sorry. I should have had them on all along. I'm dropping the ball here. Oh, my gosh. You handed out two balls earlier. Now you can't do it now. I can't do it now. You got to come in your eye or something?
Yes, you're gonna have to wear safety glasses with that guy oh see this only went up to 30 you were number 31 damn it i know you're just always that one off i'm so sorry i'm so sorry you're ripped off you know i mean because we know people go to brad pitt And they're like you know you're neck you know you're not as good looking as vince yeah that's what they're saying he knows he knows i mean he's like yeah i've been sniping it was angela you left him for me oh what happened i turned it out oh did you okay too many kids okay i'll give you that one i'm the biggest kid sorry yeah i come to be number one okay i get it i understand that all right so let's hear these other people that are supposedly sexier than me well there's the ones that are very uh the classic uh tried and true sex symbols especially of the 50s 60s okay and of course that would be uh marilyn monroe okay that's one I don't know i saw it um there are certain instances she always looked she looked like it she sounded like an airhead oh yeah okay okay yeah don't start that yeah yeah that.
That whole powdery voice, whispery. I mean, who's the one I'm thinking of? She was in that poster in Shawshank Redemption. No, not Hathaway. I was running to my tongue. Hayward. Yeah. Read it Hayward. Far sexier. I agree. I agree. See, the sex symbols back in that era. Anne-Margaret. Okay.
wayward yeah far sexier i agree i agree um see the sex symbols back in that era and margaret and very sexy you know actually and margaret might have been after marilyn i don't know i believe so that she didn't make it on this list at all i'm sorry i know they didn't ask you yet but the thing is it's like the sex symbols of that era were very well well, women didn't really work out. You know, they were like, they were softer. They were more, you know, they had the little belly pouch and that was considered sexy. They're a little more curved. I'm fine with that. I don't need them to, you know.
Be like ripped or anything. But I mean, those kind of things change over the decades. So how much cellulite do you think was hidden underneath those dresses? Well, you know what? I don't think they were eating the amount of processed foods. I don't know how much cellulite there really was. Maybe there was some. Sure, there's definitely some, depending on, you know. So anyway, so Marilyn Monroe was the first one? Yeah, she was number one on this particular list. And then, of course, akin to her was James Dean. And I would like to just tuck in there the one that I think is kind of. What's that?
I can't judge him. I can't. I mean, actually, I've never seen a full movie with him in it. I mean. I've seen like snippets. I could recognize. Yeah, I would recognize him. I mean, I could see he was a decent looking guy, good looking guy. What about this? Not me, but he was a good looking guy. Of course not.
Well, the same well the same i'll say maybe slightly later would have been steve mcqueen sure yeah he was in uh more rugged looking yeah more he had actually had a little bit more of a baby face if you really steve mcqueen well the movies that i'm watching with my aunt and i have to watch every saturday because she loves the Westerns, was wanted dead or alive. Okay. And he's the main character in there. I'm not sure when that was shot, probably early 60s at the latest. It's probably even, maybe even earlier. Yeah, see, I'm thinking of the Steve McQueen, like, of the 70s.
Yeah, see, this is early. This is still black and white TV, blah. I mean, yeah, but I mean, see, if I was a woman or gay or whatever, something that preferred men, which I'm not, I would go more for a Steve McQueen type. You know who I think is from that same basic era, and again, because I watch all these old televisions shows that are black and white, Chuck Connors. He's got that chiseled, very chiseled face. He's got a very sexy demeanor about him. You know, yeah, I see him being very, very sexy. He's got a decent body on him. You know, he's.
I'm trying to think, was it my mom or my mom's friend used to be hot and bothered for Yul Brynner? Yul Brynner. Oh. With the shaved head? Shaved head, yeah. The King and I? Yeah, King and I, sure. Et cetera. And he died of lung cancer. No, he was an avid smoker. Yeah. He did all those commercials. Different topic. Okay. So number two is, you said James Dean? James Dean. Okay. Yeah.
How do you feel about james dean um phantom 60 yeah in a way you know what i i would okay he is on here i would equate like because of the era elvis presley james dean the bad boys um of that era i heard someone the greasers yeah their hair slicked back you know that kind of i heard someone. The greasers, they had their hair slicked back, you know, that kind of cocky. I heard someone say that they actually evaluated Elvis as probably one of the most attractive men of all times. I think that is before the, you know, extra cheeseburgers with peanut butter banana. Oh, yeah, in his heyday.
Again, my aunt has a Elvis Presley magazine of his life. And his earlier, I mean, just when he started doing Elvis with the pelvis, that era when he's starting gyrating, he's got those full lips. He's got those very smoky eyes, that dark hair. I mean, yes, he's very charismatic and very sexy in how he carries himself. And then you've got the gyrating hips. I could see why women would go. And that wasn't the norm. Well, it was dirty at the time. Well, here's the thing.
With all these sex symbols that I've been reading about, the thing that sets them apart and makes them a sex symbol is that they were very unapologetic in how they portrayed themselves and what their life was about. He didn't care.
He's like, you don't like the way I'm shaking my hips fuck you i don't care okay well think of it this way too i mean you have someone like madonna i'm gonna give her the the credit that i don't want to give her but madonna and then you have lady gaga who kind of mimicked that and even miley cyrus has mimicked that where it's just like you throw it out there and not care because it's going to get me publicity. Exactly. And it's just like, and then I've noticed more so with Miley Cyrus, she had it all out there. She wasn't caring. But now she's pulled it way back.
Still doing some sexy stuff, but not going on stage topless and big strap-on dildos and stuff. She's still wearing sexy outfits and stuff, and she's got a banging little body on her. Oh, yeah, yeah. Still sounds like a sheep when she sings, but... What do you have to do about that? But again, if you're trying to make your living through your looks and singing, let's say... Or entertaining. Entertaining, because talent could be subjective. Like Adi Gaga. I mean, they all, in all fairness, I'll give credit to Madonna. She was a first. She just didn't care.
Yes, and the thing is, with all three of them, they keep reinventing themselves. So to speak, yeah. In a way. Madonna has lost the recipe to invention. Well, that's... She's now a fucking train wreck. And I don't... I'm not going to go there one way or the other, but yeah. I said it. But let's just say like in their heyday when they were considered the sexism was what they did and kept reinventing themselves coming up with a, you know, we had the Madonna of the 80s with the very, you know, the hair and the, you know, something about Susan. All the different clothes. What was that one?
17 different. What was that movie she was in? Searching for Susan? I don't know. Whatever don't know whatever that one i mean it was very 80s she had the skirt on and then she became very buff and she went with that look and then of course there was all the different videos where the 90s she became very well was it the 90s maybe the 90s she did that one book where it was like most of her naked through the whole book. Yeah, and you just keep reinventing yourself. I mean, so. And then she, you know, she had a very sexual look. And then she, I don't know what she did through the 2000s now.
She's just a mess. I've lost track too. I don't care. They just keep, you know, reinventing themselves, which definitely makes them different from everybody else. Okay, so, James Dean, who's three? Well, actually, Bridget Bardell. Never got her. I never found her attractive. Never found her attractive. I think I'm confusing her with somebody else. Twinkie? Twinkie. It's another one. Didn't get it. You mean Twiggy? Whatever. Twinkie, Twinkie. I'm hungry. Thank you.
somebody else twinkie twinkie it's another one didn't get it you mean twiggy whatever i'm hungry i'm thinking pastry twiggy yeah twiggy i i never got i don't i don't get either one of those i don't get twinkies or twiggy no i think i'm confusing her with another twinkies least Twinkies are cream filled. She might be, too. It might be. She's old now. All of us are getting older, Vince. Come on. Whoa. Okay, you seem to stay the same. Oh, better. I am getting better. Who was the actress on Carnival that had the snake and the snake dance? That is Adrienne Barnwell. Oh, okay.
Who I've always found very sexy. See, I think I'm confusing. It's the names. She looks, yeah. I don found sexy. Yes. She looks like the quintessential MILF. Yes. She looks like the mom next door that you want to plow. Big tits. Tits, curvy. Curvy. Not necessarily facially a head turner. Yeah. But not unattractive.ive she did a thing she was in Cannonball Run she wore a jumpsuit and had that thing unzipped all the way real far down so it was big things of hers in my teenage years that was important to my growth for your growth however you want to wear it from there.
However you want to take that. Whichever growth you want to look at. Didn't stunt any of it. Yeah, I wouldn't think so. Well, here's one I found always very, very sultry. Was a... Vince. Yeah, Vince. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. No, Sophia Loren. Oh, gorgeous. You know, the smoltering eyes. I mean, she just seemed to always, even when she was older. That was one hell of an hourglass there. Yeah. She really tapered into the middle and flared back out in a good way. In a good way. Yeah, and then the accent. I think it's the accent. She could defile me.
The thing that caught me with her were her eyes. She had those very sultry, smoky eyes. Full lips. Full lips. Full tits. Did she help? No, I didn't get to see a lot of her stuff. Okay. As a kid, that wasn't really readily available to me. Oh, here's one that I always found. I actually found this next person much more attractive as he got older a lot more attractive sean connery sure like i've seen i like it on jeopardy the best that's uh that was a saturday night like skit skits skits if you have not seen the sean connery saturday live jeopardopardy skits, YouTube. Very funny.
YouTube Sean Connery Jeopardy. You can laugh your ass off. It's very funny. But I've seen his earlier stuff when he was like the James Bond in the early... It was okay. The Untouchables. He's another one that rugged... Yeah, but he actually got better looking. I really liked the way he looked.
the rock oh the rock was good to pay on there but that's okay i don't care about that he'd be bald i'm fine with that i don't care uh hold on uh entrapment you probably didn't ever see that movie i saw i thought it was really hot in there um and then what was the last one uh gentleman of what the fuck is the name of that movie? Remember? Distinguished Gentleman. Is that kind of? CGI and all of them. Yeah, it was kind of a, I'll call it a Marvel type movie. Yeah, it was a Marvel type movie. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen or something. That's it, I think so. Yep, that was it.
I could be wrong about that. Something like that. It just came to my head. Yeah, and as he got older, the salt and pepper hair just seemed to work more with him when he had the dark hair those big bushy eyebrows i'm like well when he did james bond and stuff i didn't yeah yeah i didn't think it was a good james bond i hate to say it i mean i think you have liam neeson oh he didn't make it on my list and then i i think he's not a, he's not a, um, Liam Neeson isn't like the quintessential, like pretty boy, sexy, but there's something about him. The way he conducts himself.
I think that's what it is. And the accent. Yeah. I don't think he has a great profile at all. No. I don't like his nose is funky, but I don't care. It's like the way he carries himself. I'm like, damn. But what's this cock like? That's what I want to know. Probably.
That's what inquiring minds want to know that's terrible oh man and here's one we were talking about earlier raquel welsh yeah she was attractive you know she had great figure um again we did the poster that was in the shawshank redemption where she's got the fuzzy that was the cave yeah i forgot the name man or whatever i never watched that movie i never saw it either but it was um yeah she was a attractive nice body but and what i had heard matched what i had, that she was like a real difficult person. See, that could ruin everything.
Yeah, even when I saw her back in the day when there were talk shows during the day, I never saw her being genuine. That's just us. She was attractive, but I wouldn't... I mean, I see where she meets the quintessential sex symbol. Like you? Thing? Yeah.
I am am the definition of course you are okay yeah let's go with that you're terrible okay the next guy on my list i i wouldn't have thought he would have made it but i could see it now david bowie like he went through some not in the 70s well actually i went when he starred us you know i oh that's too fucked up but i like the music that's like some people see on tiktok now and shit yeah when he became like the duke and he had like the war the the baggy pants 80s when he let's dance let's dance like that yeah skinny tie he looks real he was also a phenomenal actor i saw him in a lot of different shows and stuff.
He actually was a great actor, besides The Labyrinth. I was just thinking The Labyrinth. But he did some other movies and stuff like that. Yeah, there were some other movies that David Bowie was in. And I don't remember what they are right now. I actually saw him do a one-man show on PBS. Oh, really? It was a one-man show where he was the elephant man.
Oh, yes excellent he didn't have makeup on or anything else it was excellent yeah i do remember that yeah he was talented man it's a shame another cancer yeah person taking my cancer it's a shame yeah there's probably a lot on this list that we could go through that are passed from cancer for sure most of them are passed um yeah some are definitely the next one definitely is fair a faucett the yeah cancer again breast cancer wasn't it I believe it was breast cancer I could be wrong yeah I just remember like the the quintessential uh the big poster where she's kind of like curled up and got the hair that's all winged back I didn't think she was all that I never did either I didn't get it I was oh I had a boyfriend who was like gaga over yeah i never attractive woman attractive woman but i found her replacement cheryl lad far sexier yeah i think i thought cheryl lad didn't even make it all i think she's a uh like marky post marky post i thought was like fucking so sexy and um they are just women that got overlooked a lot yeah yeah you know yeah this list could be so much longer because her faucet was i don't know i'm sure she was a lovely woman i yeah she's attractive don't get me wrong i wouldn't throw her bed you know yeah for sure she wouldn't let me in a bed but anyway um what the sex symbol that you are oh she won't want the competition intimidated oh that's what it is this good looking women are intimidated oh i forgot about that you know oh of course that's why when i get within 20 feet of one they yell no and they put their hand up it's like they realize i can't deal with that much good looks oh i'm convinced that's it that's what what that's what it is that's what the red pepper spray is for too oh yeah just keep me at a distance right you know they want to hide the pheromones if they make my eyes swell with the red pepper spray it kind of takes away from the good looks so that's the reason i've come up with for it oh i believe that i'm sure that's all very true okay good you'd help me believe it okay this this next one is one that i another one a man that actually looks better as he's gotten older richard gear when he had like actually like the darker hair i'm like who is that well he's like american jiggles he kind of was almost weird looking yeah to me see I'm thinking, who is that?
Well, he's like American Jiggle. He kind of was almost weird looking. Yeah. To me. See, I'm thinking about like, what's the one he was? Was it Pretty Woman? He was the... He was in that. Yeah, okay. One of the main characters. Yeah, I guess he was in that. I want to make sure I got the right name. That's normal. Yeah, well, no, I'm thinking that or like Lady in Red. I couldn't remember the name of the movie, but he has Pretty Woman. And he's an officer and a gentleman. Officer and a gentleman. Yeah. American gigolo. Yep. Yeah. No, he's done a lot of good stuff.
And I think he's one of those kind of guys that actually looks bad. It's not gray. It's actually white. I'm sure this guy's probably on the list, too. Ah, shit. Wanked out now. Uh-oh. He does the Nipresso, Nibrazo, whatever. Oh, George Clooney. George Clooney. He looks better as he's gotten older. He looks better as he's gotten older, too. Yep. And George Clooney is on this. We've already gone over Madonna. Oh, here's one. I'd like to run over Madonna. Shut up. Here's one. I don't see it. He just got too weird. Michael Jackson. No, no sex symbol there. You know what?
he was totally hot thriller he still hadn't done all that craziness with the surgeries and he had no plastic surgery yeah okay pick your nose back up and tell me that again yeah he still had his like regular nose he he still had his like regular nose. He might have had a little things done, which is fine. I get it. I get it. Whatever reason that poor man was confused with stuff. Didn't want to, I don't know, bleaching your skin. Do you think, how much do you think dancing helps some of these people become sex symbols? Dancing? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like Michael Jackson. Oh, he had his own dance.
Sure. Absolutely. Because dancing. And who else do we mention? He's always grabbing his crotch. I mean, come on. Like Madonna. I mean, really, if you look at Madonna straight up. Right. Not really an attractive woman. Well, let's go back to. But she did a lot of performing with the dancing and doing erotic outfits and stuff. Is that what made her sexy? What makes her sexy? I don't know.
be a culmination of all those things you know and and there's also certain things if you see them in one instance you're like i don't know man not looking so sexy but you see him in another circumstance you're like wow that was really hot so i don't know bad lighting good lighting thing i don't know with michael jackson was it his ability to dance that made him sexy i'm sure it's part of it you know and the singing and okay i mean i wasn't a huge fan of his singing he could write songs don't get me wrong oh yeah he could definitely write and and he did you know pave the way in his own unique dance moves and that's what set him apart from everybody else everybody else was just doing whatever dance moves are popular he was doing the whole moonwalk and grabbing his crotch and okay whatever my ears sorry yeah yeah no um yeah i was never a big fan of michael jackson i'm not going to get into other stuff no thriller thriller i think was his you know the pinnacle for him as far as sexuality goes and and being a sex symbol after that he just got yeah whatever you know i well i wonder if people get so out over the railing oh well yeah let's not even go into that let's just go like with with maybe what he was going through is like you start to lose your looks and i think he was craving to get back his youth.
I'm not going to speculate. I don't know. I hope he's in a better place. In a better place. Okay, our next sex symbol that this next one, I guess I would call her a sex symbol. I've only seen her a few movies. Sharon Stone. She always seemed like kind of like a bitchy, you know, I'm kind of like lukewarm with her. Yeah. She's got a sex appeal to her. I'm trying to think of the movie. Again, she's another one that I see her being difficult in real life. Yeah. And kind of takes away from it.
For me, like, like one of the women i always found so sexy was kate beckinsale oh yeah she didn't make it on the list yeah but kate beckinsale is not over the top with like fake anything anything not that we know of and when i've seen her interviewed and stuff like she seems genuine she actually seems like someone you could hang out with sit and have a drink with and and shoot to shit yeah right not sit there and think she's better than you that could be 110 we don't know we're just talking out our ass yeah we're talking about nothing and we mean nothing um but you know it's someone that where as sharon stone just yeah they they mentioned like basic instinct and i think that's what i'm thinking that was her yeah that was her flashing her hairy pussy was when she was in playboy yeah that's yeah whatever hey but this goes i don't think someone's a sex symbol doesn't mean much it's you know and everybody has there's people out there believe it or not that don't think i'm a sex symbol you're kidding i know how about that that's crazy what is wrong with them do they have not obviously obviously, well, they just, they have an issue.
Yes. I think they're jealous. I think that's what it is. Duh. That's the most rudimentary part. I think so. Okay, the next guy on the list is one you already mentioned, is George Clooney, who, as he gets older, he looks better. You know, I always like that rugged, good-looking. He's got a little more gray, and it's like, it's fine.
It's looks better you know i always like that rugged good looking he's got a little more gray and it's like it's fine it's great you know it always cracks me up with uh men get gray and they look distinguished women get gray and the people call them haggard it's like it's it is unfair it depends man i've seen some women with gray long hair and they look good it yeah it looks hot i think so of course i'm in that wheelhouse so you're like we're like yeah that well she's getting near the end of life so i have a chance oh i mean she might be desperate maybe your vision's going too maybe oh my god uh here's one that uh probably everybody who has a computer is on the internet has seen her have sex is probably pamela anderson and the tapes oh i'm sure everybody's seen that oh yeah and you know what i gotta respect her i follow her on instagram oh do you okay and she is now doing no makeup oh she goes around no makeup you know what she looks good you show me pictures i mean i respect her more for just like fuck that except me for me yeah you know um you shouldn't have to paint your face pam anderson before all the plastic stuff was so goddamn beautiful right gorgeous you know i don't know and then you know they made her up to be this and i think it got to be too much for her yeah i mean i understand the boob job obviously i mean i think she had those removed yeah that's what i heard i'm like i don't think you want to do that just get them to a nice size and just that's it she's got to be comfortable i mean you know that poor woman couldn't fart without making the news you know right right and she just wants her life you know and i respect that well a lot of um actors and stuff if they're smart they kind of like you know are low key and they kind of just go up like robert redford like you talked about before pam lived a fast and furious life oh sure she was tommy lee i mean she had all sorts of different issues and stuff like that and you know what she just wants to kind of be mellow and i i respect her for that and she's still beautiful i i agree i agree oh here's one i always thought she was very hot especially in uh certain movies uh holly berry oh and gothica i i just thought she was so i didn't see monster's bar i heard that was supposed to be really hot i think there's like the one sex scene and monster sling blade guy sling bait yeah uh bad santa oh okay um he was married to angela joey oh god that's it my.
I don't think he's on my list. Probably not. Probably his bad Santa. But yeah, I always thought she was just very, very... Oh, Holly Berry's just gorgeous. Just very... And you know, long hair, short hair. Look at her in John Wick. Oh, John Wick. Oh, my God, yes. I was like, what later movies? John Wick, yeah, absolutely. Did Keanu Reeves make the list? You know, I didn't read down that far. I'm only at 17, so... There's hope for Keanu. He's got another one. Got better looking as he got older. You know what? I think he got rid of that yeah, man. Yeah, dumped the surfer thing.
Yeah, yeah, especially with... He's not so much the duh, uh, dude, uh, dude.
When he did the Bram Stoker'soker's dracula he was borderline it's a victorian era thing and he's talking like a 80s surfer yeah not working it's like villain 10th great adventure you gotta ditch the whole hey dude do you know what hey dracula dude you know here's like i talked about being real people i mean everything i've seen online about him he is a phenomenal human being what he does to help people homeless stuff like that he's a and he even the cast of his movies not just the cast i mean the um like the grip the extras and everything else buying them watches he bought like um cars or motorcycles for all the stunt actors in his john wick movie oh did he really i didn't hear that i've seen the videos him he buys a pizza and goes out to a homeless guy and shares a pizza sits down next to him on the street and shows with him and has pizza with him there's a woman broken down the side of the road oh that's right yep he helped her he drove her he was going one way and and she was going the other and he says okay he turned around he took her like it was like a half an hour or an hour away right right off and was very much a gentleman and you know so yeah he's a great guy anyway let's get back to your list he was that makes him sexy yeah that makes a real human being a real human being that's stuck up yep right i try not to be here's the other half of the uh the other half uh angelina jolie we have broad pit so or maybe or did we get the brad pitt did i already get the brad pitt okay this is the one half oh brad pitt was just just above i'm sorry i missed i skipped over brad pitt we can just do them together because it's a you know good quintessential him tom cruise yeah tom cruise brad pitt um they're the ones that just uh Thank you.
Brad Pitt said, you know, quintessential him, Tom Cruise. Yeah, Tom Cruise. Brad Pitt. They're the ones that just damn good looks, man. Just perfect genetics. Yeah, yeah. I mean, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Vince. Yeah, Vince, of course. Okay. You know, just good genetics.
Yeah, and even as they get older, it's like, yeah, a little more rugged but they don't look they still look good they still look good as i don't know age it's age defying yeah from what i have seen doesn't look like any plastic surgery so i'm sure we all have don't tend to need it but men it really shows when they get it yeah they look like really fucked up yeah look Play-Doh head. Yeah, it's like, wait, just leave it go. I mean, that's crazy. The next one, I guess she's a... Angele Chouli is back to her. Yeah. I kind of faded for me. Yeah? Yeah. She's just too skinny for me.
Yeah, she's got the full lips and his piercing eyes. I mean, she looks good in some movies. Yeah, in other ones, I'm like. And stuff like that. But I just, it's one of those things I just kind of lost. You lost the fire for her. Yeah. She's just gotten too skinny. I mean, like Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Yeah. She looked really good there. Really good, yeah. And I don't know, whatever. Not an important one to think, but whatever. No, I just thought. That's my opinion.
She goes through these stages where she really gets skinny like i don't know how much she's acting anymore yeah i don't know either 75 kids yeah that i'm sure that's quite trying did jennifer aniston well we'll get to that i don't know i see she's to me she is the new real hot thing you know what she is so like typically pretty girl next door girl next door soil her smack her ass and and you know what she's basically the same person in a lot of the movies that most actors are well no she really is you take her from okay um what was that she's a relatable very relatable i mean she's not like jim carrey and carrey right but a lot of his movies he's the same character it might be a different name yeah same character yeah but even more so because he's over the top with the overacting and the you know he's out of control and you know he he's kind of goofy and just over the top.
Well, you take her in a, what was that movie? Office space where she was working at Tchotchke's as a waitress or we take her in Friends. She's still like the same likable. Oh, a Bruce Almighty. Was it Bruce Almighty? Yeah, it was Bruce Almighty. Yeah, because she complains that he has a mediocre life. And she's like, this is mediocre. She's a very relatable, believable person. I love her and go with it. Go with it. Nice bikini scene there. Nice bikini scene there. Very nice. Very sexy. No idea how close she is to having her. Oh, so close. So close. All she's got to do is make the phone call.
Yeah. Any day now. me at hotwifepodcast a shameless plug from vince well i'm just helping her out of course she listens oh it's obvious i mean come on this is what we do johnny depp yep you know better as he gets older i think he was super sexy believe it or not it's gonna sound crazy uh parts of caribbean i just love that whole i'm drunk and you don't like it that was last weekend that's a whole different story oh my god i can't i can't go back there you know he's kind of staggering around from the road you said i had to climb up the the steps. You crawled up part of this.
I said climbed, crawled. You crawled up the steps. I don't have any memory of it. No, you don't. I was like, are you okay, honey? And you're like, do you need any help? And you're like, oh, some people think I do. I'm like, oh, my God. What the fuck's going on here? I can't deny that. Yeah. Anyway, that was last weekend. I mean, Johnny Depp's another one of the actors, I think, went through a spell where he had some issues. You know, like the people were saying he was bankrupt and stuff. Right. And a lot of drinking. But it seems like he's kind of pulled his stuff together now.
He has a band with Alice Cooper and some other people. Oh, nice. I didn't know that. I see him going to children's hospitals and stuff as Jack Sparrow. That's nice. And cancer wards and stuff.
That's super nice yeah again i think it's a guy who gets his life gets interfered with from all the attention he gets and you know these people are just actors they're not superheroes exactly and the fans tend to take their life away from them you know they go out to eat and they're like oh you know yeah yeah let the fucking guy eat man you know it's like yeah he you know him and you like what he does that's his job that's his job he's not not saving lives he's not you know a doctor can go out and eat and no one goes up to him oh can you sign this autograph you saved my uncle you know anyway go ahead that's yeah that's a whole different soapbox backbox back Scarlett Johansson she's okay she's alright she's alright I don't feel one way or the other I mean I know that a lot of people are gaga for so many of them and if you listen to the write ups on here I went through AI and this blonde bombshell but we can say that about so many actresses about being a quote blonde if that's a dye she used whatever tomorrow she'd be redhead day after that she could be brunette well a lot of them are just blonde it's like Marilyn Monroe and then Scarlett Johansson.
I think. You know, it's like, okay, let's mix it up a little bit, folks. I think it mostly applies for women in the sense of if a man is driving down the street and they see a blonde, but they don't see the front, they're going to look more at a blonde than they would for brunette. You think? Yeah, I think so. Redheads is like a close second, I think. I think redheads even more so because they stand out. There's not that many redheads. Yeah, but I think there's a balance with redheads. Redheads are one of those ones that are either usually really good looking or they're not. Well, that's true.
I'm just talking about what the hair color does as far as attracting attention and i just think because red is not that not that um it's kind of rare a little more rare than blonde or brunette yeah i don't know but you're right it's like yeah i've seen a lot of emails we get that like i love redheads i love redheads and i'm like you want to talk to my wife you don't talk to me but i appreciate that oh yeah i'm more strawberry i'm really not red with gray highlights with gray highlights well you know i am and we move on ryan gosling i'm trying to think um oh the notebook yesbook.
Yes, I did see The Notebook. Never saw that. I read the book, too. It's a chick flick. It's a chick flick. Yeah, I know. I haven't seen it. Yeah, you wouldn't be. No. I would not be interested. No, not at all. I forget what it's about. Is there any shootouts or high-speed chases? No, no, it's not even. I did read the book. It was Nicholas Sparks wrote it. On pictures? It didn't have pictures. How did you read it? It was a pop-up. Oh, there was Nicholas Sparks wrote it. A lot of pictures? It didn't have pictures. How did you read it? It was a pop-up. There you go. That's my time.
Jennifer Lopez. Nah. Not for me. But again, I look at this as being a dancing thing. Yeah, it definitely is. I think she has good looks. She's cute. I'm not going to say she's not attractive. I mean, she's cute. Yeah, she's cute. It's like right there with Mariah Carey. You know, they're all super cute, but not. I think Mariah Carey's kind of going backwards. I'm just talking about, like, in her heyday. I don't know about now. I have no idea. There's a couple in there that are super cute, you know, but that's about it. They're just super cute, which is fine.
I don't have a problem with super cute. I would take that all day long. The other one, I'm just not sure I can picture this guy's, what he looks like.
Chris hemsworth no idea uh he was like in god of thunder the marvel uh oh he's a blonde haired guy long blonde hair i yeah no he's a good looking guy oh is he yeah good looking guy i know the name i just couldn't picture like what he's been in and i you know i know i watch a thousand movies all the time so i'm surprised i missed this one it's it's a marvel thing probably not going to watch it yeah it's probably not in my wheelhouse yeah yeah if it's a guy i'm thinking of yeah you said god of thunder uh yes as the god of thunder in the marvel cinematic universe chris hemsworth has become a sex symbol for his physique and charming personality.
Ooh, that sounds very sexy. We said long blonde hair. I was seeing like Fabio or something. Are you going to show it? Oh, yeah, he's definitely. Yeah, muscular. Sultry, muscular. Yeah, when I was.
Kind of like a blonde version of me oh absolutely you you definitely move on we've we've beat that horse to death we know yeah he's very hot okay a lot harder than i know so you're never going to harder it's harder oh my god it's so fucking hard oh my god i want to be the staffer i want his staff of god of thunder jesus christ make that lightning slap my ass go ahead he come up with this nonsense just winging it oh my god you're terrible the next one the list i i guess rihanna i i like some for music so there's you something for everybody. Yeah, I'm saying personally, not my thing.
Well, they say, you know, the sultry voice. Another thing. Sultry voice. She has a fucking stutter. Umbrella. Fuck you. I'm sorry. Yeah, you're going to stutter. She needs to get it. She has a speech impediment. She's got to get that taken care of. Complete the fucking sentence. Umbrella. Here's another one, though. It seems like the female, the strong female sex symbols and all these little rhymes don't. If you tell me. What? I can't take her name now. Fuck the blonde bitch.
It's real poppy right now they yeah you mean taylor swift no oh yeah taylor swift yeah taylor swift if she's on that list i'm gonna vomit i'm gonna ruin this fucking mixing board right here stop stop but the thing is i'm noticing with these write-ups with all these strong female sex symbols is that they're very unapologetic in what they're doing you know which is very very common yeah you should have no problem with that that's fine i'm you know i've said that over and over again you know i might not like men getting their ass eaten i might not why would you say that i'm just saying i might not like men cross-dressing or whatever it's my opinion right and i tell people as long as everyone's consenting consenting and of age go with it own it own it just because i may or may not like it doesn't mean a fucking hill of beans yeah i agree so if it's something you're into hey man own it go with it that god bless you with that just don't hurt anyone all right this that was from the list of the ai that i typed in the the rest of these are ones that i particularly thought should have been on the list but weren't here's one of my i i think another guy who just looks better as he gets older and i just love his commercials for atkins rob low oh he's another one flawless genetics i mean he's getting older i'm like god damn he looked better now than you he was in like uh the austin powers we paid the young number two and he looked good there robert um uh whatever here we talk about yeah he played the younger and in that same suit i think um robert downey jr oh has come into his own another one who's gotten better looking as he gets older he's kind of grown in it was good looking as a young man right you could tell he was fucked up man alcohol and drugs and shit whatever that's just gonna not help you but yeah he's matured and and he's matured emotionally too and i i think it just works i think yeah rob lowe's another one just flawless genetics oh my god he's talking about those adkin commercials i just look at his eyes i'm like damn i'm gonna buy adkins yeah he has he has piercing eyes he does he does very piercing very another one that i i find another guy looks better as he gets older sam elliot oh yeah yeah oh i should include in there is um kurt russell oh yeah every time i watch a tombstone i'm like older, Sam Elliott.
Oh, yeah. Oh, I should include in there is Kurt Russell. Oh, yeah. Every time I watch Tombstone, I'm like, oh, dear God. Can you imagine? And you know what? The one I thought was totally cute, Goldie Hawn. I'm just, you know, the fact that those two are together, you know. 40-some years. That's amazing. Good for them.
I mean, she was so cute and and so i won't say she was hot but she's so totally cute like when uh laughing she had some like uh overboard overboard definitely yeah you know she's not known for her but she had a great ass yeah she doesn't have like a lot Yeah, I thought she was a very attractive woman. I really liked her in Death Becomes Her. Yeah.
ass yeah she doesn't have like a lot of yeah i thought she's a very attractive woman i really liked her in uh death becomes her yeah i was not a big fan of that movie but it doesn't matter it doesn't matter so who else on your list oh that's so good approaching the hour mark i'm sorry here bradley cooper now that we're watching alias we kind of backtracked and well again i didn't know what i didn't know american sniper you don't remember oh yeah yeah he played kyle in that movie yeah right so yeah he's another one piercing eyes piercing eyes that's another thing oh i love eyes eyes were one of the first things i noticed about someone oh yeah absolutely they have them they they have them no i think that just tells you so much about a person there's only two more people in the list so this one's going back quite a few years we talked about earlier may west i think that she was the we'll see with wc field so that had to be um geez 1930 i think she gets looked over a lot because for the time period she was very uh sexual yeah unapologetic very dirty for that time yes yes she was the same as like in a comedian sense like red fox was never thought of as a great comedian because at the time he was so filthy so dirty and what he was saying back then wasn't as remotely dirty as now yep um you But Red Fox Fox was a fucking brilliant comedian.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But he was just ahead of his time. Sure. When it came to, like, the dirty talk, now comedians are just dropping F-bombs or whatever. His dirty talk and your dirty talk are two different things. Two different dirty talks, yeah, I suppose so. I suppose so.
But, but yeah the same thing she wore um she was very may west was very very muxom she was very curvy very hourglass too yeah back in a time when that wasn't the classic good looks so she was yeah and she was very forward women weren't forward back then unapologetic see me sometime yeah that was very forward very forward um you know like and i always say ann margaret yeah it wasn't always ann margaret was gorgeous still is as an older woman yeah yeah i think she's still alive um but ann margaret was you know even like if you watch grumpy old men when she was right yeah what was she there 60 something maybe gorgeous gorgeous woman yeah Gorgeous woman.
And the last one on my list, I'm going back, 1940s. Ingrid Garner. I just thought she was, oh, really? I don't know who she is. Oh, oh, Casablanca. I saw the movie once. I don't remember. She's very subdued sexy. Yeah, I get it. You know? I remember seeing posters and stuff. Yeah, she was attractive. I wouldn't say a sex symbol, but she was attractive.
In a very she was like much more under um more subdued she wasn't like over the top yeah she was just like just the girl next door sexy you know well the one we really forgot to name is the girl with the southern accent in alice you know the diner kiss my girl oh flow the actor i forget the actress's name but the the character's name was flow and alice's i'm sorry she didn't make it on the list she was what 36 37 out of 35 yeah she probably down there oh you know betty white i mean betty white was a very in her younger days too very attractive woman and an older woman even for golden girls i mean they have her as an airhead she she should have been the sexy slut one but whatever you know what oh she owned that that character yeah she did even when you see her in other movies, she always plays, it has a slight airiness to her.
Yeah, just a little bit. It only has a hint of sexuality to it. Yep, yep. Like, she doesn't know what she's saying. They actually say she was a pretty sexual person. Yeah, good for her. Yeah. I'm sad that she didn't make it to be 100. I was really rooting for her. She died at 99, like Christmas.
It was like New Year's Eve she died eve she died it was like mother she missed her 100th birthday by like two weeks well it's like god that's that sucks she wanted to make it too so she wasn't really happy about yeah i'm sure she wasn't really happy with it but that's uh well this is our little thing with like how sex symbols have kind of changed over the few decades like 50 years or so or yeah and if you if you uh 16 years we didn't have that we mentioned or talked about or whatever uh emails hotwifepodcasts at gmail.com we'd love to hear your thoughts of people we missed a whole bunch you know you watch me like oh damn i thought he was so fucking hard he was an attractive guy who was in good shape in a couple of his movies.
He's in good shape generally, but Will Smith. Oh, Will Smith. And he's a swinger, apparently. Apparently. Yeah, see? See? Oh, that's... Good-looking guy. Yeah, good-looking guy. Good-looking guy. Anyway. All right. Well, thank you for listening, and I hope you keep listening. Yeah. And again, feel free to reach out to us, hotwifepodcast, gmail.com.
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