Can You Go Back to Vanilla?

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Speaker1: This program contains strong sexual content. No one under the age of 18 is permitted to listen to or download this podcast in any manner. The host, guest, and performers are all over the age of 18. Rebroadcasting the podcast in any manner is strictly prohibited without the written consent of the owners of the Hot Wife podcast. The commentary of this program is the sole opinion of its host or guest and does not reflect that of the opinion of Hot Wife podcast. podcast owners, agents, or representatives. This podcast is not meant to be taken as professional advice. Spill the tea, baby, say. However, I don't know how cold it is in here, but it's pretty damn cold. I can almost, I can see my breath. If it means anything, my penis has gone back in my body further than my bladder. It's up somewhere around the base of my lungs right now. Yeah, so we're going to talk about something maybe hot. We'll try. We'll give it a shot. We'll give it a shot. I have my heated vest on, which is very nice. Ultra woman vest. Yeah, it's got little lights on. It shows it's on high. I have my jacket, my winter coat on top of that, and gloves. Looking quite sexy. I know. Clothing. I am so aroused. I know. See, it's getting hot already. I've always had this sexual fantasy about Eskimo women, and you're right there. I'm right here. That's why you don't have your hood up over your headphones. Oh, that's a good idea. I should do that. Can you reach up there? I think so. That's another question. I'm going to be making a lot of noise, so maybe I should. No, you won't. It's not on the microphone. That's on the headphones. Okay. There you go. Oh, look at that. Now it's hotter. Now it's super hot. Now it's like you're almost wearing one of those Middle Eastern garb things. All right, here we go. Okay, let's get into a hot topic. No, I'm not going to the mall to go to a hot topic. It's heated right there. We can go there, yeah. Well, it's heated. So real quick, we have officially, before our break, we had some really good numbers for downloads. We appreciate everyone. We have surpassed that number. Wow. Not drastically, but we've come back up and beaten that number by a little bit. Damn. We want to thank everyone and really appreciate it that you take time out of your day. Even if it's two minutes, we appreciate it. And give us a listen. So we just really do. Again, there is a button on our website, hotwifepodcast.com, that you can click on. What that is, is gives you the ability to listen to our podcast commercial-free. Costs you $5 a month. Now, if you listen to it through Apple or whatever, you're hearing commercials. So you'd have to actually go then to the Spreaker website and listen to it through there. But if you want to throw us a couple of nickels and listen without commercials, that's how you do it. I think we'll put that money toward heat. Yeah. At this point, it might be easier to burn the money that way. Oh, stop. Because at the propane companies, It's not showing up, but anyway. They will eventually. It's like a balmy 30 degrees outside. I know. It's sunny. In here, it's got to be like 18. Yeah, in here, it feels colder. I'm glad we have insulation to keep the cold in. Yeah, well, it's warmer outside than it is inside right now. So anyway. So what do you want to talk about? Well, I want to talk about how going back to a vanilla lifestyle, sexually speaking, would be very, well, unsatisfactory. and hollow. Boring, maybe? Boring, sorry. Boring, yes. Well, again, it also is going to depend how much that you and or you and your partner experienced in the lifestyle. Let's pretend you were experienced. You had solo times, you had group times, you had a couple times, you didn't, you know. Right, but I have. No, I'm saying about for everybody. Right. If you're a couple that has done a lot of things, and then all of a sudden one day one of you sits there and says, okay, we're done. You know what? It's not even about the physical sex with other people. It's the mindset. Well, then why are you talking about that? I mean, that is part of it, obviously. But it's also the mindset. If I had to go back and regress, and I do mean regress back into a vanilla relationship, I would wither and die. It's not about the sex with other people. I mean, yes, that's very exciting, blah. And I'm not taking anything away from that. And my hood keeps falling down. It goes over my eyes and I can't see. But what I'm thinking, it's also a mindset. Like when we're with people that are in the swing lifestyle too, and we can converse, and everybody's kind of on the same page with different experiences, but they're very open to our experience. and they're open to sharing their experiences. Then they go back to a very closed vanilla relationship. Here's something on a very rudimentary level. How many people get together in the vanilla world? Two couples get together. Do they talk about their sex life? I doubt it. Not that it's necessary or mandatory, but that's one of the things that is unique about the lifestyle. You sit down with these other couples, whether you're meeting them for the first time or you've I've known them for years. And it's like, oh man, the other night we got together with this couple and man, he banged the hell out of Donna. He made her cum so many times. And it's like, oh man, his wife sucked my cock so good. And everybody's like, man, that's great. I had one like that. But in a vanilla world, it's like, so how's your job, Bob? Yeah, it's like, well, we're going to grill some chicken. You know, that kind of thing. We're hoping to get a new minivan next week. Well, I mean, we talk about the normal things, too, about our jobs. Yeah, that new minivan. We're going to fuck in the back of it. Oh, well, there you go. I mean, we've met some couples that really have some interesting careers. I mean, the one gentleman was a jockey. I don't know too many jockeys. You should at your height. Definitely. I mean, when I was dancing nude at the one nude club, there was a customer there who took a fancy to me. He was my size. He was maybe 5'2". Weighed 108 pounds. And I weighed 108 pounds. That's why I remember. We're like, wow, we're like the same size. It was cool. Is there a club for that? Yeah. He's called a jockey. I was like, so that was kind of cool. And then to meet somebody else who was a jockey and now is managing jockeys, it's very, it's different. How many jockeys do you meet? I mean, you meet plumbers and electricians and, you know, all those kinds of things and those kinds of careers, but it's unusual. And you don't have to be in the lifestyle to meet those people, But you had that kind of conversation. Then you had the sexy conversation. Okay. Well, here's a different aspect that probably a lot of people overlook. Right. Where the lifestyle is different than the vanilla world. Uh-huh. In the vanilla world, how do you make new friends? Where do you go to meet? You know, it's like, oh, we're going out to dinner with a couple from, you know, our daughter's soccer team. You know, their daughter plays on the same team. Oh, that'd be one way. Okay, sports teams with your kids. Yeah, but I'm saying, Something like that, it's harder. Where, you know, we can go on the Swinger websites and just say, reach out to a couple we see. It's like, hey, we'd love to meet you guys. We're going to go out and grab dinner. You know, now you may develop a friendship or you may not. Right. You might go further than a friendship or you may not. Yeah, but it's a, yeah, the networking is so much easier in the Swinger lifestyle for sure. Yeah. I mean, straight people or vanilla people, I guess, go to dating sites. I guess. No, why would, I mean, if you're not married, you're single, sure. If you're single, there's the dating sites for single people, but if you're a married couple, where do you meet other friends? It would have to be like wherever you're, whatever group you belong to. If you belong to, you know, a certain church group, which I don't think that'd be very exciting. You certainly wouldn't be having sex with them, I would not think, but hey, I had been surprised before. I mean, where else you meet people? I mean, the PTA. I think we did a show a hundred years ago and that, you know, there's people who get into the lifestyle without realizing it. That they might meet another couple and all of a sudden they, something, you know, everybody gets drunk one night and all of a sudden they're playing strip poker and then, you know, truth or dare and, you know, or whatever, you know. And maybe they just stay inside of that niche of that, that they're comfortable with, but they don't actually acknowledge that they are quote-unquote swingers. Well, if they only did it once, they may not consider themselves. Well, they might do it, you know, periodically, but just they stay there. They're not venturing out, you know. Oh, yeah, from that realm. So they might not consider themselves swingers. That's true. But more importantly, getting back, I think, the way I read the title was, like, sexually. Mm-hmm. Is going from the lifestyle to back to vanilla, going from having a smorgasbord down to, to meatloaf again every night, you know. Yeah. And again, I don't have to venture into having sex with other people all the time. But I find it reassuring and comforting that I can anytime I want to. Even if like right now it's too cold, there's really no place to, you know, play comfortably. You don't want to go out on the deck and fuck in the snow? No, it's only 10 inches of snow. It's not much. It's been so cold it hasn't melted one iota. Nope, not even in two weeks. So yeah, that's kind of put a damper on it. But just the fact that I had that opportunity just opens the door for me, makes me feel more comforted. And again, my ex-wife, and we see it in my daughter, they are super jealous people. So even the aspect if you look or talk about snow, somebody else. Like, oh, my God, rah, you know. So I think the vanilla life can be, not in all cases, very stifling even to the fantasy aspect of your sex life. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow, absolutely. And it's like, what, you don't think about me? It's like, well, maybe I do, maybe I don't. It's my fantasy. I can fantasize however I want. No matter what name I say, picture it to be yours. That's true. You know, and it's, Well, then we're going back to the insecurity thing. That's all insecurity that even a fantasy, they find very, you know. And just for a record, we're not bashing people who enjoy the vanilla lifestyle. That's fine. That's great. If that's what makes you comfortable and happy and you're content with that, God bless you with that. We're just saying from people that are in and have been in the lifestyle for over 20 years that we don't get jealous. No, I think it's kind of exciting. If someone else takes the work off my hands, I don't have to touch it. Oh, shut up. You're an asshole. Wow. If I liked you, that would have hurt. I know, but you don't. I just want to tell. It doesn't matter. But yeah, this is the aspect of, I mean, one of the things that I find erotic, and again, we don't really act on it, but we did in the past to some degree, that element of potential surprise. of, like, back when I was doing photography, you know, like, you got that phone call from the girl, Vince says I can mess around with him. Yeah, sure, go ahead. Yep, yep. And it's like, you know, that whole, like, hey, while I was at the studio today. While I was shopping in the produce aisle. Why is it always a produce aisle? Because that's the first thing I thought of. The first section you walk into in the grocery store. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, and this happened to be by the zucchini., Jesus Christ. Hey, it's fantasy. It's fantasy, okay? Would you really want to take something that big in diameter? No, of course not. Jesus, Christmas. A zucchini can be a little more acceptable. But anyway. It's just long. But just, I mean, the fantasy aspect of life and sex life is half of the trip. Mm-hmm, I agree. You know, and then to go back or be in a vanilla world, again, not bashing people People were there. No. It's kind of stifling. Yeah. I kind of get short of breath. It's almost like somebody's taking the air out of me. Like somebody's suffocating me. Yeah. Literally and figuratively. Well, I think it takes the spark out of the fire. That's a good way to put it, for sure. You know, it's like where it snuffs all the air out of the fire. So all of a sudden it's like, okay. Like I said, it's like eating meatloaf every day. And I like meatloaf. I love meatloaf. There's nothing wrong with meatloaf. No, no. But sometimes you want to mix it up. Sometimes you want to have chicken. Yeah. Or shrimp. Or whatever. Or, you know, the blonde lady down the street. Whatever. Exactly. Sometimes you want to have meat curtains. Okay, all right, whatever. Sometimes you want three women sucking your dick. Just saying. Just saying. It happens. It happens. Every once in a while, yes, it happens. But, you know, if you're in a relationship where your significant other doesn't do something that you crave, you can be with somebody who does what you crave. Yeah. And hopefully the other person doesn't take offense to it. Again, there's that whole security. Well, there's people that, you know, will use anal. Mm-hmm. Okay? There's women who don't want to do anal. But the husband, probably because the wife won't allow it. Don't do it. He really wants that. He wants it. So, you know, if all of a sudden you have, an outlet to plow someone's tuchus. You get to go plow someone's tuchus. True. I wonder. But I don't think that decreases the husband's urge to want to plow the wife's tuchus. It doesn't. I was just going to say that I was thinking that he probably even wants it more now. It's like, oh, honey, come on. It felt so good. Why don't you do it? Come on. level of tension, but... Yeah, he might find out. It feels kind of the same. It's not about the feel. It's about the taboo. The taboo-ness. It's usually a little tighter. It probably feels a little softer because it doesn't have the musculature that a vagina has. If you're doing it doggy style, then you have the visual. The visual, for sure. Yeah, I'm in her ass, you know. Ooh. Yeah, it is a visual. I agree. But anyway, back to the whole thing. I think, you know, If you've never been in the lifestyle, it's, you know, you sit to go, okay, what's the big deal? You know, it's like, I'm used to this, I'm happy with this. But I think if you have to go in reverse, if you go from the lifestyle and have to go back to vanilla, I mean, unless the person you're with is that special to you. If you get in a relationship with someone who's not in the lifestyle and they have no interest, don't want you to be part of it or whatever, I still think that's going to be a hard but unless you are head over heels in love with them and are willing to give them everything you know and don't know where to get roofies no you know you're willing to give up everything so oh yeah i think there'd be some people might be saying but you're not giving up anything because you know you're saving your relationship and it isn't you do have to have that You know, if there is one person wants to keep going in the swing lifestyle, the other person doesn't. For me, it's almost like, and this is a terrible analogy, so it's kind of, it's like, it's when I was in a vanilla relationship, it was like being in prison. When I became, got into a swing relationship, it was like being released from prison. So for me to go backwards and go back into prison, and I know this is a terrible analogy, But that's how it would feel to me. No, I get it. You know, when you're stuck in one, like I'm in one cell, you know, one cellmate. One cellmate. One. That little thing there, it's kind of true. What are you trying to say? But, you know, then all of a sudden you get released and you're out in the world and it's like, wow, I can eat all sorts of different food, not just what they're serving that day. Exactly. You know, I can. Yeah, for me it would be like going back into prison. I can wear something other than orange clothing. True. Even though orange is a very nice color and really brings out the color of my eyes. Okay. A little silence there. If you want to wear the same orange stuff every day. Yeah, every day, every day. Yeah. But yeah, I would not want to go back into a vanilla relationship. Yeah. No, it'd be a difficult transition, I think, for people that are well-experienced in the lifestyle. Oh, yeah. It's been part of our life for over 20 years. So it's, we just, it's just old. It's always there. It's so much a part of our life. It's not even something we think about. Yeah, that's true. I think we think about it more like, you're not a swinger. That could be. Yeah. Or you meet people that are, well, we'll do, they dabble into, you know, getting their feet wet or their ankles wet, but they don't jump in the pool the whole way. Yeah. You know, for those kind of people, I question, like, just jump in. Well, the ones that really crack up. Everybody's different. Are the ones that they want to But they don't let their partner swing. That's, yeah. Well, that again, it has to do with, it has its roots in insecurities. Sure. I can swing when you can't. Wait, whoa, whoa. What about equality, people? What about equality? I can swing, you can swing. I swing, you swing, we swing. We'll all swing. I mean, you have to have your rules or whatever your boundaries might be, but, you know. Yep. Just do it or neither of you do it. Yeah. But I think there is, if you're coming out of the swinging world, there is going to be a major adjustment. And I can see potentially people getting into disagreements. Oh, yeah. And again, it's something you got to work through. It might not be something you have to do cold turkey. Oh, I don't think I could. Or maybe you have to do a cold turkey. I don't know. I'm not an expert. I don't know. Yeah, maybe you're right. I just want to think about it. It's not just about the sex. It's a It's a mindset. It's a lifestyle. It is in every part of my being. You know, the clothes I pick out. The friends you make. The friends you make. Because now you kind of have to walk away from your friends you've made. Yeah. And you can't have those open conversations that you had with them at one time. So if you're in a relationship and you and your wife or whoever, get out of it. But you try to maintain these friends. So you go out to dinner with, you know, this couple, Jane and Joe. And, you know, you remember, you know, how Joe used to knock the bottom out of you. Man, you loved his big cock or whatever. And I'm sitting there looking at Jane like, oh my God, the way she sucked my dick. Yeah, exactly. You know, the way she'd squirt on my face. Right, exactly. And now we're like. Oh yeah, we don't do that anymore. Well, you're just trying to sit there and talk about, you know, they start like, oh, we went out with this couple the other night. We just went to a hotel. So you have to sit there. Please don't talk to me about that. Can you tell me, did you bake any cookies for debate? Bake Sale. I don't really want to hear about the sexual exploits. Yeah, exactly. Oh yeah, Jane was baking those cookies for it, and she got so hot. Oh, and those creamy middles, it was just oozing and gooing out. She just wasn't wearing anything under her apron, and she bent her over to the aisle while she was stirring the batter, and I gave her some batter and her ass on. It's like, okay, let's go to something else. How's that new car? Oh, Jane and I fucked the shit out in the backseat. Knock it the fuck off. Yeah, I don't think you could go now. I don't think. Okay, let's talk about church. Oh, man. I was thinking about bending her over that fucking altar. Stop it. You're terrible. Just saying what's in my head. Oh, that's a dangerous place to be. Yeah, you'd have to alter your friends. It would be like almost giving up drugs. People with places and things. You can't go to. I guess I've never. or had an addiction to drugs. But yeah, I can see that. Something you crave. I'm not addicted to the swing lifestyle. It's very comfortable. I don't have to do it every weekend. We don't do it every weekend. No, not even every other. No, we went out with a social person for a drink at a bar. There was nothing that happened. But we're setting up potentially future plans. Yes, maybe. When we get heat. Oh, heat. Yeah, my fingertips are so cold. If I touched his dick, it would crawl back in. But I mean, it doesn't happen every weekend. We're not the kind of people that have to put a notch on our bedpost. We don't have any bedposts left anyway. Well, that's true. It's like termites. It's a pile of sawdust. There's so many notches. Is that what you're trying to say? That's terrible. There's a pile of sawdust on the floor and a mattress on the floor with sawdust. We don't put notches on our bedposts. Yeah, it's something to think about. Ask yourself, if you're somebody in the lifestyle, could you or would you be willing to go back to not being in the lifestyle? Our email is info at hotwifepodcast.com. Love to hear your thoughts on that. Let us know your thoughts on other things. 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We just did this initially as a therapy session for us. We didn't think anybody would listen, and the numbers are impressive. So we're very thankful and humbled. So with that, I am going to say stay horny. And I'm going to say stay warm. Got that.