We sit down with our host and hostess from the house parties we attend. They are very experienced in the BDSM world or as they like to call it - Power Exchange. We have a Q A session with them as well as one of the lovely single women that attend these parties.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/hot-wife-podcast-and-the-swinger-lifestyle--5343522/support. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hi, this is Donna Lynn, and welcome to my Hot my hot wife podcast where we discuss all the good the bad and the really erotic of the swinger lifestyle oh yeah baby i'm sorry hi this is donna lynn and welcome to my hot wife podcast no this is not the hot husband podcast let's just get that straight no no no it's not it's not not gonna happen you know We'll be right back.
hi this is Donna Lynn and welcome to my hot wife podcast no this is not the hot husband and podcast let's just get that straight no no no it's not it's not not gonna happen you know when I fire up the hot husband podcast you're gone I know it's all over a reason why I'm laughing is the discount right I'm sure I am but the reason why I'm laughing is because we're here with some friends and has the podcast is opening I was over here grabbing his boobs the way I'm grabbing my boobs like we always do during the opening, and I just had to laugh at that. I'm sorry.
It's a standard opening when I get to that apartment. I'm done, and this is my hot white pocket. You have to grab your boobs. Grab your boobs. That's what we do. So you're going to introduce everyone? I think we can.
I guess I should preface this by saying what names are we are we using normal normal names are we good with that yeah i want to go by sven okay i have a lover named lars oh actually i do too you can call me whatever you want to call me i don't care so who's all here okay well hold on we have joanne say hello joanne hello oh there we go we have jay hi okay and her wonderful husband come on howdy so oh and of course i have my wonderful husband i introduced you before last oh come on i've gone around the table and of course my husband v.
He's not so wonderful now because he's being a real pain in my ass. Because you have witnesses that could hear you say I'm wonderful. That's true. But we know he is wonderful. Oh, yeah. You don't live with him. I mean, no, he is wonderful now. Come on. I'm only loving and kind. Only loving and kind. That's all the grief I get. Anyway, so we are here.
We did a podcast years ago with them right about the whole everybody generally calls it the bdsm world bob has a different name for it loving bdsm okay power exchange or loving power exchange i like the loving part yes well so do we actually And it's not only loving, it's trusting power exchange. I think trusting in the whole, again, I'll use the BDSM term for people until they get ingrained with this, is a crucial part of it. Can be. Yeah. You have to trust someone to your safety. If you're going to be bound, potentially, or flogged, or whatever the terminology is.
Oh, you've been to one of our parties. A couple. One or two. Maybe one of these times you'll let me in. He mostly stands in the front door whining. I'm the guy peeking through the blinds. Are you the guy? Because we can adjust where the peephole is. But keep it that one window because the dryer vent's right there. That's all I'm going to say. Okay. It might get time soon to clean that out. With alcohol, yeah. Well, make sure you're wearing gloves. That's all I'm going to say. Okay. I don't even want to know. I don't. It just sounds terrible in all kinds. Okay. I see where you're going. Okay.
All right. It just sounds. So. Okay. You're looking at me. You're going to start with this or you want me to run the questions? You run the questions. You're really good at this. I don't have any questions. She just gave you a compliment. He does. He does steer the ship very well. Ship. That's with a P. Sometimes. Sometimes in the ship. again, I've stated on other shows that it's not something that interests me, that lifestyle, that part of the lifestyle. And clearly, actually, correct me if I'm wrong, using the term BDSM, is not something that's necessary swingers either.
No, that is a very, very good very good point they're very different they can go together as we've proven sure and at the same time they are not the same thing at all i mean generally speaking swinger lifestyle is people sharing significant others with significant others i mean that's kind of a general description and or looking or watching or whatever and then bdsm which is short for bondage discipline sadomasica and sadomasochism okay so whippy spanky um is all is more about um control for some people it can be about pain not particularly our part of the spectrum, and some people are into that.
So that's why BDSM is kind of a sub-genre where the whole power exchange is kind of the general term, which is there's an exchange of power between the partners. Sure. Which, to some people who are really strictly into power exchange, does not include any swinging, does not necessarily include any sex. So that's why our particular hybrid, the BDSM swing thing is a little bit different and frankly, pretty popular. Yeah. Okay. Oh yeah. Well, so I guess my next question would be, when did all you get into it, and how did you get into it? Jay's laughing. The laughing parts are kind of surprising.
Oh, Jay, you should see the beautiful, sexy smile on Jay's face. Well, I was introduced to BDSM when I was about 11. Wow.
Yes, because I found my mother's copy of the story of oh oh classic yes a classic and it turned that towards her it just kind of fascinated me okay and so then you know as i got older i could find other books on my own and my mother probably had some other ones but i was really fascinated by the story of oh and you know but I actually did not actively do anything in BDSM life until right before Bob I had a I was dating a guy who was kind of into BDSM and that didn't work out well either but and then Bob and I got together and one one of my birthdays actually the first birthday after we were together because we had talked a lot you know and but had not really done anything and then he took me to a swing club but there was no BDSM there that was just for swinging and bdsm just sort of came along naturally i don't know how where when did that start exactly you started before i did so oh not by much um not by much i i had had a number of girlfriends along the way i mean for for years actually and they would say to me bob Bob, I want you to tie me up or Bob, I want you to whip me or spank me or whatever they would say.
And my answer was always, no, I don't do that. And they would say, no, you really should. Well, no, I don't do that.
And one woman who I was in a pretty committed relationship with long distance was in at my house for a weekend and it was my birthday and as my birthday present having had said this to me and I'm saying nope sorry that ain't gonna happen she I unwrapped my present and inside the gift box was a collar and a flogger so where the hell's my dog yeah i thought i was i thought i was getting a puppy i thought i was getting a puppy you didn't put air holes in the thing and um and she put on and and she uh put on the collar and she handed me the flogger and said vlog me and that's you You don't spell it F-L-O-G.
F-L-O-G. F-U. No. And I kind of did you know with me with me you know right and uh and it wasn't that i enjoyed it which was actually kind of cool it wasn't that i enjoyed it i didn't dislike it i didn't enjoy it she did and that's when i understood what this whole thing was about that uh i mean you know donna joanne jay you all know that i flogged a bunch of ladies yeah and um it's not because i need it it's because they need it and you all know i mean i'm i'm looking at three women who have all said please and i do it because i because i want to my partner. That's why it's power exchange.
Okay. See, Joanne, how about you, Jo? How did I get started? Yeah, how did you get started? And any other thoughts, considering you've been at the sharp end of the flogger? Wow. It's really strange, I think, how I got started. I don't know. I got together with a guy that we were having just crazy sex, and we decided to get in this swinging lifestyle, and he found Fifty Shades of Pleasure. Which is our adult group. And we came here, and, you know, they kind of showed us the ropes. Literally. Yes, no pun intended, yeah. And it was, I was very comfortable with them.
They were very considerate, and i loved all of it um i guess the first party was a sensory uh experience so it was like a feather and um like a chain so it was like a coolness and a feather and that was really my first experience of bdsm which of course isn't is nothing what people think it is, you know. And that was awesome. And I think it was a blindfold, so that gives you even more experience. That's very nice. But the spanking and the flogger stuff, I just enjoy it. I can't say exactly why.
It just is's enjoyable but i will say that you know you know i'm thinking about when we first started doing this um probably bob used to have uh what i called the lair uh which was his house for for years you know for several weeks after we met I thought he never took me into the master bedroom because he was sleeping with somebody else in the master bedroom because we always went to the guest room. It's like, you know, who's closer in the master bedroom than do I need to worry about? But actually, there's a whole other story that had nothing to do with that.
But one of the hottest things he ever did was he tied me to the bed, and he had forgotten to take my underpants off. So he cut them off with a Harley Davidson buck knife. Okay. Talk about hot. I was like, note to self, bring knife next party. Jay, don't take your pants off. Note to self, Vince, I always have one at a party. Yeah. There you go. Actually, I've seen it. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway. Can I always use a knife? I was feeling, I was forgetting about that. And here I was eating him off. Yeah. Should have brought a fork and a knife.
Yeah, yeah,'t know you do a good job i try so i i actually remember the first time i met joanne at at that at one of those parties i remember that uh uh joanne was um bent forward over a table and don't spit it out Yeah, Joanne was bent forward over a table and uh i was walking around as the host so i was just kind of observing and uh i would observe that too yeah and her partner was flogging her and out there in podcast land you'll see me i'm flogging her with air quotes because it really wasn't flogging and I could look at her face and I could see it was in going in the right direction but it wasn't exactly what she was looking for and so I I looked across the table and I said to her partner I said uh would you mind if I uh took a turn and he said yeah for sure and so I walked around his side of the table took the flogger and looked at him and said this is how she wants to be flogged and I gave her a whack and she He went, oh, yes.
And that's how we became friends well i shake hands but okay to each his own to each his own i've been looking for a job and just shaking hands i gotta bring a flogger yeah oh yeah i've been so you're here for the interview yes well depending what you're interviewing for now yeah um but you know but you know to a to a point joanne's style you know and i got that when i watched her on the table was that she liked a little bit of pain not a lot but a little that's bdsm is not about pain it's that's we call it power exchange, because power exchange isn't about pain.
It's about someone says, I give you permission to be in control. And then the person takes the control and says, I'm going to keep you perfectly safe. So I'm going to give you a safe word that allows you to stop this in its tracks anytime you don't like it.
So in reality, and this is what really people need to get, is that the person who the bottom as we call them is actually in control of the scene it is not the person who is the dom it is the person who's the sub and if it's done right if it's done right and like i have i as i've said to people if you're ever with a dom who likes hitting you walk away because that's not a dom that's a sadist or an asshole okay yes thank you that makes perfect sense yeah and i and i think actually i i'll stop in a second and just say i think i'm a better dom because i don't need to spank somebody in fact there's a lot of times harder that's not what i do yeah yeah you spend a lot of time refereeing.
Well, at the parties, I do referee, but there's all kinds of fun ways. I mean, it's like, you know, like I've put two drinks in Donna's hand and said, kiss me. Or I've sucked on her nipples, and she's going, whoa, but she can't do anything because she's got two drinks in her hand. And that is power exchange. Or, you know, BDSM doesn't have to have any flogging, whipping. Because I know of many and several instances where women have been blindfolded and just, you know, given sensory, not even touch, but just, you know, talk to. And, you know, they don't know where they are.
And you say, okay, well, I'm going to leave you now. But I'll be back. And they're just sitting there because, you know, you're blindfolded. You might be tied to a chair or something like that. So you can't go anywhere. And it's like, oh, my God, I'm alone. What if he doesn't come back?
And, in fact fact he probably is standing right next to you he's probably and you don't know that you know my brother actually dated a girl for a while that was wasn't so much into like the flogging or anything else but she liked to be bound and she used to say you know fuck me you know tie me up fuck me leave come back later and fuck me if you want bring friends with you whatever and she was blindfolded the whole time she wanted to be left there and it's like okay to each his own i yeah i and he married his don't don't get said don't get started i would have married her seriously yeah i go from nymphomaniac to no to To no me, yeah.
Nymphomaniac. So ask away, Vince. Ask away. There's no questions. It's out of line.
Well, again, I'm trying to, for people that listen to the podcast, all three of them, that might have some curiosity into getting into it, what would be the way, if someone has, and let's say their mate is someone like me nationally good looking handsome smart rich well there's not one thing we said there that was correct we should all be wearing boots at this point i didn't i want gonna cut your mic off um well this room does flood from time oh my god that's there you go um so if you were in a relationship and you're like don and i i'm not into it you know like i just can't because again being brought up with being abused and stuff i just um how could someone go about or should they go about trying to find someone to help them explore uh power exchange anyone anyone joanne was going to say something i think oh well i would look on a website i mean And that be my advice you know if you were looking for that type of stuff and you you know just like sls oh yeah i mean that would be my would you suggest they go one take someone with you right yes take your partner with you to make sure you're safe because you have a trust factor with that person.
Do you think they should go to a one-on-one or go to a party? Well, there's certain good things about a party in that you can see a variety of things going on. If you're going one-on-one, and we have done that a couple of times I can think of.
Um, and, but I think if you're really not, and, but we hadn't done those one-on-one things until we were way further into life's into bdsm we started out swinging and a tiny part of our own sex our own our sec our sex style had a little bit of i i keep i hate to call it bdsm it just it's not in me yet so power exchange and and um and then eventually we realized that while it wasn't the entire part of our relationship held 50 it certainly was something that we both enjoyed and so that became a little bit more part of our play style and then we realized that there were other people that probably felt the same way i mean your point is extremely well taken vince that I don't know.
I don your look at me and go you know so the first shrimp yeah you know so so venetian is vienna sausage you know so you know the best advice i would have for anybody the first advice i would have If somebody has ideation about gee i might like to do that or that interests me or i read a book and oh my that looked like i got turned on whatever it is that gets you like thinking oh first thing i would say is talk about it with your partner if you have a partner talk about it with your partner and find out what they're comfortable what they're comfortable with doing what they are comfortable with you doing and then what you come that what you're comfortable with doing, what they are comfortable with you doing, and then what you are comfortable with as a couple doing.
In other words, you know, we at our parties, we have a lot of people that come and say, we kind of like this. We fantasize about it. We talk about it sometimes in bed. And can we just watch? And our answer is, of course. Of course.
And we've had people that have watched for two or three parties and finally tried to do something uh we've had parties where one member of the couple wants to do more than the other all doable that is also by the way why it's supervised because if one person is sitting in a chair reading a book and the other person is out doing other things that's not going to happen that's not allowed but the fact is we have a lot of people that come and just say, I want to watch. Perfectly defined.
And the idea is to figure out what you're comfortable with, knowing that what you're comfortable with today may not be what you're comfortable with tomorrow. Okay. That's an evolving thing. That's a really good point. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you find out what you like and don't like. And as I was saying to Donna earlier today, you know, Jay and I have had times where one of us has done something and after the fact said, I don't want to do that again. Or the other part says, you know, I'm not comfortable with you doing that or I didn't like how that turned out or whatever.
And that's just a conversation. And if you care for somebody, you figure out a way that both people can work it out. Donna and Vince are a perfect example, folks. We know these two people real well, and we've known them for a while, and we know they're in different spots, and that's okay. They've figured that out.
Yeah, I don't know if he figured that out but we're working on it it is changing though there's a lot of well you're figuring it out and and you have found people that you absolutely can trust to help you in that figuring out you found us sure well the thing i like about the party is that you always do the whole uh green yellow red scenario absolutely so nobody can say they didn't know what they were doing yeah exactly and and Thank you. Thank you. Bye-bye. didn't know what they were doing. Yeah, exactly. And safe word is never more. No, no. The safe word is harder. No, ouch. Oh, yeah?
The safe word is if you do that one more time, I'm going to break your dick. Oh, see that?
You're going to get a to get a whole lot more but actually for you folks out there in podcast a lot actually none of those things are true um because to some people saying i'm going to break your dick will make them do it more some people saying it harder will make them do it more but that's why we use green yellow red because it actually creates a conversation and it's much more descriptive of that otherwise Because otherwise you have to find a safe word which is the word that turns things off right that has to be so unusual aardvark that's my safe dolphin but in the moment dolphin whatever it is but in the moment when someone's having multiple orgasms and wants to stop the last thing that they could probably remember is some random word that they were given 10 minutes ago yeah and so that's why we use at our parties the green, yellow, red, because it creates a conversation.
It gives you a continuum. It's something easy to remember and all of the above. Just think someone with Tourette's yells out that word all the time. They never get any pleasure because they're just stopping them all the time. Aardvork, fucking Aardvork. Smack me, Aardvork. So, yeah, they would suck if you had Tourette's. Yeah, but that's a really good question. I think, you know, we were really fortunate because through swinging, we met a few other people that also liked BDSM. And so we, and then we sort of formed, as a result of that, we kind of formed our own group.
And people find our group through a website, and we kind of vet them before they get here. And so that's easy.
But like if you were a single woman and thought about BDSM – Yeah, we have one right here by the unicorn let me let me sure keep expanding let me provide more context let's say i'm living in new york city as a single woman and i think i'm interested in bdsm and i just want to see what it's about what do i do where do i go i mean that's a that's a tougher question than you know joanne organically came into our group as a member of a couple yeah as a member of a couple that makes it safer and the group itself is pretty organic if you think how it it morphs and everything but um but that's a much harder thing if you know it doesn't have to be a female can be a guy uh i always think of the scenes on billions where the the head lawyer is into bdsm and like his phone rings after he's been put on a rack and somebody's whipping it's like that's not the bdsm we do but there's always next party but yeah so make sure you're safe you know always make you know the whole Like, that's not the BDSM we do.
But there's always next party. But make sure. But, yeah, so make sure you're safe. You know, always make, you know, the whole thing is about being safe. I mean, it all boils. Whatever you do, bringing a friend, telling a friend, call me in one hour, wearing a black vest, I don't know. Whatever it is that makes you feel safe, do that. Because if you don't feel safe, you're not going to be able to let go and achieve subspace. Sure. Because the whole goal of this, all the ladies here are nodding in unison. Yeah, subspace.
The whole goal of this is to achieve subspace, which is when your endorphins are firing, your altered consciousness, often described as a sense of floating, and you're really, quote, in the subzone. And you cannot get that unless you feel 100% safe. Oh, absolutely not because you need – subzone, you have no control. You have totally given that power to somebody. So you don't be actually – you actually mean absolutely. Yeah, you know, you have given that away to somebody else. And, yeah, yeah, you can't – you couldn't protect yourself.
So you have to trust the person that they can read you and hear you. And, you know, we all do that in every parts of our life. I mean, when I go to work for somebody, I trust that they're not going to screw me, you know, right or fully wrong me. I trust they're going to pay me on time. I have colleagues that are going to support me and help me, blah, whatever it is. We all trust people and want to be safe.
Right right and the whole power exchange thing is just kind of a a real tiny but intense example of that where everything is explicit there are no surprises you know exactly what you're getting into and by the way if you can't check off all those boxes you should not be No, it makes sense. Any one of them. You don't know what you're doing? Don't do it. You're not feeling safe? Don't do it. I did have some good surprises, though. So there's surprises. There's some good ones. When you flogged my feet and I came, I did not know having my feet flogged.
That's the only time I think I actually truly reached that, quote, subspace we now my question is ken i don't know i never had that that level of sensation through like a regular orgasm as i did then do you think people who don't practice power exchange can achieve that level of subspace i guess the only person i can ask here is vince How would you know yeah how do you know yeah exactly i mean can you i mean can that happen with any other orgasm than what you achieve through power exchange i guess is my question and i don't know what that answer is i don't know i don't know if they you could i it's a different thing it is a different thing.
I said after the last party, I had two experiences, one of which was with fan number one. Fan number one. With fan number one. Do you hear that, fan number one? You know who you are. Yes. Starts with S, ends with Stephen, yes. Anyway, one was with Stephen and one was with the wonderful host of this podcast, Vince. Oh, really? I'm going to watch him blush. Go ahead, make him blush. He is a little. Look at that look he gave me. Trying not busy. Vince and I were busy setting up the equipment for the podcast. Oh, yeah. That's why I didn't get set up at all. Exactly.
We were looking around for the proper space to set up. Oh, yeah. You were looking around for the proper space. Sure. Anyway, in those orgasms, I said, if I believe there is a deity, I've seen them twice. Him or her. I don't know. But, you know, it was like. I do know what you mean. You know, the eyes rolling back in your head. And it's like, oh, yeah. But that is a great orgasm. That is a great orgasm. Okay.
But it's different in subspace oh how i can't tell it's drinking i mean here we are we have three women who have all achieved subspace who i personally know have had some massively wonderful orgasms because i was there to either be part of it or observe there is no such thing as a bad orgasm no some are better than others but there's no such thing no bad orgasms i'm gonna get that on a coffee mug one day yeah i think you should bumper sticker bumper sticker okay one of the things different for me in subspace and everybody's subspace is probably different than everybody else's but for me one of the things that is different is i could still mentally think about having seen a deity or oh this is a great orgasm or whatever in that situation in subspace there is no thought there is little memory other than my body had pleasure so it's like all it is in that case it's you're completely into your body and it does whatever it wants and it it could you know and so people are helping your body have the maximum amount of pleasure it can have somehow but but there's not like a memory of it's like i was there but i don't really remember how i got there through i i've been known to meditate and stuff to help with stress and and i can actually even i even, I always screw the name up, Transen, where you can send yourself someplace else.
Astro projection. Don't call me an asshole. If I'm going to call you an asshole. She can call you an asshole. Well, that's obvious. I've done it to relieve pain and it's more of a clarity.
So you could receive that pleasure, but there's a clarity to it that you don't have doing a standard orgasm would that be the way to describe it it's like it's more pure i would say that i'd say it's more pure um i i don't know i'm asking i don't know clear i think i was just when when you were flogging my my feet bob and i i didn't know that that sensitivity was i didn't know that was my that was a huge fucking turn on and i i i felt like i just like like almost blacked out yeah you kind of melt yeah you kind of melt or you black out or you i got asked to do a photo shoot for a woman she hired supposedly one of the best tires in the country paid this guy good money and i did a photo shoot while this guy came to her house was his name name Pirelli?
I don't know his name. It was 15 years ago. She said the best tire. Pirelli tires. Different kind of tires, Bob. Mr. Goodyear? I don't know. His name was B.F. Good something. So he did numerous ties. I don't know what you want to call it.
But the last one did was down her basement he just did a suspension like put her in a nest or some such thing now there was no physical uh sexual contact you know he had to touch her to tie her and and hang her up and stuff but i watched her she would go into that different zone she was tied up in this basket and he was you know it was important you know that he did it right and he did where it didn't no blood flow was lost or anything and she sat there as i'm photographing her and her pussy juices were just dripping out of her she was having orgasm after orgasm after orgasm and no one was even touching her and that was like one of my first times i've ever experienced seeing someone having that level you're talking about and it was just like and then when she came down and you know she had to rehydrate her and stuff like that she was she was she goes she had no memory she says i was just in a very good place she goes i'm happy i felt good and and it's like that puddle on the floor is yours you know and uh she's like she's i'm exhausted you know and we said like you probably had 20 orgasms and it was just so weird it's like wow nothing sexual was going on no nothing vibrated no one was fingering yeah it was it was really that's weird a unique situation so but everybody has their own buttons you know we we have a a woman who comes to her the party she and her husband um and her she's kind of a switch that she can be kind of a bottom or she can be a top the first time i met her um she has beautiful sculpted breasts best money can buy Thank you.
she can be kind of a bottom or she can be a top the first time i met her um she has beautiful sculpted breasts best money can buy and uh she uh all we did was i played with her nipples and she must have come solid for 20 minutes and that's the only thing i did was was tweak her nipples and she could not stop coming that's not a bad deal no no she doesn't work for everybody but no no that's that's my point we all have our own thing you loved it when i flogged your feet oh god i did i ever god did i ever yeah that was weird because i didn't expect it but yeah i know i dated a girl that you could just play the nipples and she would yeah yep yep yeah okay So, Joanne,'ll start with you what is your favorite aspect that you enjoy like i'm gonna use the word aspect because i don't want to say you know is it what is called bdsm well of you know being flogged being bound uh what goes on in the san andrew's cross uh whatever i mean of I mean, of all the experiences you had, what's like, I, I love the sensor sensory.
The, like what I said in the beginning, and it's been a long time since I've been in subspace. So, um, it's a little difficult for me to talk about it, but it is, um, it's sensory. It's the blindfold helps with me, um, a lot.
especially if you and i are playing stops the dry heaving what you fantasize of somebody else well that's the bag that we put over your head honey and then it doesn't say lars at the top of it we have a picture of somebody else whoever your person you guys don't cut air holes in it and then you duct tape it around my Well, you know enough of your pleasure it's for ours it's for your safety so if that's all so if that's all you got joe would that be enough or does that take you somewhere else i mean is that like the door that you open and and i and i'm and i ask this as a lover yes i'm not just asking her because i'm interested i'm asking because i'm also chose lover and you're I'm it's very different i mean um of course i love fucking um that is but it's different when you're in stuff subspace than than making love let's say um so yeah i think that the blind like with me, blindfolding helps i love my breasts pinched uh touched um yep random things rubbing up against my body is awesome and you have to let yourself go i guess you know with the in in the blindfold helps trust your partner you have to trust your partner if you don't trust you're not going to get there yeah that really makes sense that has to be important especially if you're blindfolded you can't see what's coming very attractive thing to it okay i think is to feel that trust no wrong answer yeah i'll just revisit my birthday party which i think was probably the most erotic thing i've ever done is when i was what's that what was that thanks well you keep the one he's just messing with i know constantly well you're the one who planned it and i and blah give you okay kudos for that but being blindfolded joanne you're right i was when she was i came to the door i was blindfolded and told to strip down and after that it was like i just gave myself to like okay whatever you want to do to me you do and it was i told i told jay this several times how wonderful and erotic it was and we did uh yeah you guys did it was like It was, I told Jay this several times, how wonderful and erotic it was.
And we did. Yeah, you guys did. It was like, it was all of a sudden fingernails were raking my body and my nipples were being tweaked and, you know, and all these things were happening.
I felt like, you know, the leather straps of the flogger being raked against me, not flogging me yet and then you know finally they you know you got um more intense with you know kinds of riding crops and floggers and that little pinwheel thing going over my nipples it's like all these sensations I was bombarded by all these sensation it was it was really um there you go Vince it was incredible it was really incredible I never had an experience like that in my life never did yeah yeah uh you know you know when Thank you. It was incredible. It was really incredible.
I never had an experience like that in my life. Never did. Yeah. Yeah. You know, when you talk about subspace, it's not something that happens like every time I have sex or anything like that. You know, it has to have the right atmosphere. I like having people around. I'm enough of an exhibitionist. I like people to watch what's happening to me, even if I'm blindfolded because I can hear them. Thank you.
around i'm a much enough of an exhibitionist i like people to watch what's happening to me even if i'm blindfolded because i can hear them i think it'd be really hard to be blindfolded and have music playing in your ears at the same time no that would be really like when i was blindfolded i couldn't nobody spoke and i i could have sworn you guys had this choreographed. I would have sworn because I could feel the presence. I could hear people whispering, or maybe they're whispering just low enough I could almost hear them.
And I could have sworn it was like choreographed because it was like one hand would come in, then another one. And then I spoke to one of the other people that were there, and they were like, no, we just winged it. And I was like, get out. That was amazing. It was just amazing. Kick and swish and swapping. Bob, Bob, you're off go. Bob, get back on track. This is not how we choreographed it, Bob. One, two, three. Bob, penis is out too early, Bob. Bob, your penis is always out too early. Well, you know, at one party, somebody's penis was out all night long. Not mine, though. It wasn't Bob's.
It was not mine. No, we won't name it. I don't know whose penis is out, but that's true. They wouldn't even notice what mine did. Stop it. So, you know, so, well, I thought it sounded like a broken record. So it starts with safety. Right. And then the way we do this, because we have a BDSM swing hybrid, it starts then not, from safety, it goes to affection and care and pleasure.
And that being said, of course, some people find pleasure from a little bit of pain okay you know and so it's all figuring that out you know and you know i have said in something else i wrote a while back actually introduction to one of the parties is is you know like when i don't there's a lot of different styles of and i'm using the word BDSM. There's people that only do the tying up, what you call a tie, or those are called riggers. And there's people that all they do is they do rigging. And for them, it's all about the restraint.
Some people are into what we call impact play, which is the floggers and the canes and things like that.
Some people into other forms of like electrical stimulation i know this sounds a little weird it's not dog collars but it's like using electricity um some people on either side of the leash so to speak just like being told what to do some people love humiliation and so there's all these different styles of all these different styles of things that we that people like on either end of that you know some people like to humiliate some people like to be humiliated some people like to flog thank god if they meet someone who likes to be flogged right which is how joanne and i met you know and um but it's you know it's not one thing the important thing is to as the sub because you're asking how to be safe sure is somehow some way if you can and sometimes it's through experimentation sometimes it's by reading your mother's book when you're 11 years old you learn what you like and what you go no i don't think so and then you find someone who does that thing you like so so when someone comes to me and says bob i'd like to do a scene with you they know that i'm not great at everything i am pretty good at flogging so they're already saying i think flogging is what i'd like bob you're the guy that i think can do that now if they want somebody who wants to do um you know ladies you know you've been here done that i mean someone who doesibari, rigging.
They're going to go to our friend Tim, who's excellent at time. See what I mean? And they know going in that this is what he does. And so, again, it's another example of how the sub is really in charge. That's true. It's weird how that actually works out. The sub is in charge. Right.
I want to circle back because okay when i asked jay what is your favorite element that you enjoy or get you to subspace or that is like i mean i'm sure you have many but what's like the one that uh she is who she is nothing wrong with that i'm trying to think of you know or give us the top three i don't know you know I don't know how many options you have You know I think it's about It starts for me With sensory And then just ramping it up And especially being That's where I got to start Joanne's got such a big nodding smile on her face because that seems to be a thought.
I went from being blindfolded to, oh, what would happen if I were blindfolded and had earbuds in playing music, you know, and then we got distracted. Okay. So anyway, I like being blindfolded. I like being bound. And or I don't actually have to be physically bound. I can be bound by voice, which is even hotter. Like, it's like whoever I'm with can put my hands wherever, up above my head, wherever. And let's say you can't, you can't move those. You have to not move your hands. Yeah. Okay. And, you know, and it's like, okay, I can't, you know.
So, you know, just taking that, you know, another step of taking control away. So that would, and then probably some really, you know, I do love flogging and being flogged in that situation where you can't move is like really good, but you know, it's like, it, it ramps up from just like really gentle strokes, really soft all over your body.
And you just, and it just gets all that blood rushing can just feel like, and you know so I you know and just ramping it up and if I get fucked during that whole thing I don't actually probably at that point in time don't give a fuck if somebody fucks me or not because I am having my own self-propelled orgasms that are being produced by my own body by myself. Yep. And it's just like... Thank goodness my cock is only nine inches. Thank goodness. All the ladies are nodding in unison going... Thank goodness.
All the ladies are nodding in unison going if that's what you want to tell yourself about to make you sleep at night you go right ahead I can't pull mine out that far no problem tripping on it or anything like that anyway my dick hits the ground I lay on my belly and she jumps up and down on my ass I like your material is that a new physical therapy treatment for your back that might be where my back hurts I don't know did you ever hear the joke about the guy finds a lamp on the beach rubs it genie pierce says i'm gonna give you three wishes i guess great he says i want big piles of money i want millions of dollars all this money appears He He goes, great.
He goes, I want to be surrounded by beautiful women. All these beautiful women. He goes, all right. He says, I want a cock that touches around. Had no legs. I knew that was coming. Yeah. Be careful what you wish for.
All right, so Donna, what part, and your experience is limited yeah somewhat limited so okay so for you the question is what have you experienced so far you think you kind of said it that you like the most and what do you think you'd like to experience well i do like the stage for later yeah i know i like the sensory deprivation like having my blindfolded so you you can't i like being able to hear things though that that titillation of uh getting just some information but not all the information because your your mind starts filling it in which i find very erotic i like being restrained because i like that we're we're being told i can't move yeah i i like that jay that's a that's a good one like being in a position like oh i don't have to be tied but just being told like i can't move my arms there's an excitement level of like i want to move my body this way but i'm not allowed to it's it's titillating and i like flogging and i found out i liked flogging when we went to exotica and that guy flogged me professionally for the first time i thought that was really erotic that was it's like getting a massage like it starts out like so nice and light and friendly with those with the little you know the flogger and it's it's like getting a massage and then they start doing it like rhythmically on your back it's like getting a massage and then they come up whack and they snap it right on your click you're like holy moly that's awesome and then it goes back and it's like getting a massage and then they come up whack and they snap it right on your clit you're like holy moly that's awesome and then it goes back no one's smacking my quit well i'm gonna you don't have one see told you no one's gonna smack my quit then that's what i find so rocked at that snap and then it goes back to oh that was interesting then it goes back to being really nice and soft and i like that that roller coaster ride i like that i like that a lot okay so what would you like the experience that you haven't um bob's leading in bob gets closer he gets oh okay maybe the next question should be bob what do you think donna needs experience that she maybe hasn't yet?
I'm not going there until I hear it from Donna. Oh, geez. I like those things so much. It's like other things I don't think are. I'd like to have a man deposit $10,000 in my bank account. Why only 10? Well, I'm sorry. She's easy. I want somebody to build my deck. Paint my house.
know i know interior dear the interior so vince i'll answer your question i'll answer it please do so i've been listening pretty closely to what donna said today and one of the things that she said when she's talking about what a wonderful experience her birthday party was was that you know she said I don't want to be I like being blindfolded but I like being able to hear what's around me so I think one of the things that and especially knowing a little bit about Donna's history I think Donna might enjoy doing something more in public where she would know that other people are around watching what was going on publicly not too public no no no we're not talking about grand central station like in the middle of the neighborhood like in the middle of the street you know we're talking about like at a party when you knew people were like you were you were more spectators more spectators i think that might turn you on at the party i was yes oh yeah i had an exhibitionist.
Oh, yeah. I had no problem with that. I thought that was really cool. But just the fact that I couldn't tell what was going on, and you're trying to ferret what's going on. I told her a little thing, like, if we could arrange it, maybe, like, have her restrained, like, on the spanking bench with a blindfold on, and having guys that can come up and flog her or fuck her. Yeah. That's pretty much fun.
Yeah, that's pretty much fun or just have her mouth open or all the above I can give that a high rating there you go what do you think Donna being completely blindfolded you know she might need to be flipped over once on her belly then on her back yeah my back she's had that have you had that oh yeah you want to experience that you're the only beautiful woman at this table that hasn't had that yet oh yeah well the the thing you did before hold on there is one that you were going to do for my birthday this time but we had done before was the mystery man there was a guy he set up uh years ago i was blindfolded he came in we played and i never found out who he was he left fucked me and left and we never heard from again i still to this day do not know who that man was cool to this day and he has child support to pay god damn it so that was that was pretty cool but you wouldn't want to do it again for my birthday but it didn't work out the guy came something came up and he couldn't make it but yeah what we have to do is do that scenario so you do that scenario but we get to the party before everyone else right that way you don't know who's i don't know and you're down here tied up and bound or whatever and you don't know who any of the party goers are, whether it's someone, you know, you have no idea.
You know what? You could come early. And that happens occasionally. Jay, he did that last time. It slips once in a while, you know. You can arrive early. Get careful with him. And, you know, we can, you know, Donna can come in and we can blindfold her before everybody gets there. And we can tie her Thank you. And, you know, we can, you know, Donna can come in and we can blindfold her before everybody gets there. And we can tie her to the pole. So that way. We have no German guys. No, we have to use a pole. We have to use a pole. And we can tie her to the pole.
So she'll sort of be the ornament of the party. Sure. Kind of like at her birthday party. Well, we had talked about a neat photo shoot would be actually putting her on the table and make her the, like, put the food on her and people get to pick food and whatever. Oh, that would be interesting. And Donna says, you can't put hot wings on my crotch. You know what's really bad? I wanted to keep them warm. The summer sausage, though, I was like, you know, that might be a little bit too big to go in my ass.
You know what's really bad is we were playing with this couple one time, and we decided that I was dessert. Oh, I see that. I was laying on a table naked, and I had whipped cream and chocolate and ice cream and caramel, which is fun while it's there is fun while it's there but when it's all over it is so gross when it starts to get like that the milk starts to break and it smells like it wasn't even the smell it was just like take it to the backyard hose you off then what happens is I went into the shower and the guy came in and... Did you again? Yeah, again, in the shower.
It was an okay thing. Yeah. You bragging or bitching? Joanne, Joanne, what's your secret fantasy here? What's something you'd like to do that you haven't done? And again, I'm leaning forward, folks. Oh, my goodness. Talk snow. Wow, put me on the spot. Well, with the conversation about the subspace i just want to be there again i yeah um the blindfold like what we were talking about the blindfold and start slow and just ramp it up and just make me come. And I know I have done that in the past, but it's been a while. I have a question. I would definitely like to do that.
Is the first time you experience that kind of subspace and how it's created, do you look for new ways of doing it or do you want to go back to the way like oh that is a good question that's a good question yeah and i want to revisit it i want to expand on it because it was my first time like the flogging my feet because it was so like such a surprise to me i want to go back and maybe develop it some more and experience it again and maybe flesh it out and maybe change it up or maybe have more more quote control over it a little more cognitive of it yeah maybe that look at me the big wow man are you i'm glad you're sitting down okay i'm gonna take a break now He's been reading books again, folks.
I hate it. I hate it when he reads books. I stole your Thesaurus. Shut up. Okay, ladies. We have two other ladies to answer that question. Well, when you said the flogging of the feet, I was like, I don't think I've done that. I would like to try that. Just kind of happened. That's a weird thing. Just kind of happened. Yeah. It's really awesome when you find something like that or somebody tries something new on you and that you've never experienced. And you're just like, Oh my God. Yes. Do that more. Do that more. Yes. Clean that floor. Oh, you scrub that floor. You dirty boy. I'm sorry.
Doesn't have to be you, Mr. Smarty Pants. It just got dark real quick. Woman walks up to a guy in a bar and says, for $300, I'll do anything you want. He digs in his pocket, gives her $300, and says, go paint my garage. Yep, yep, exactly. Sometimes that's more erotic than anything else. And don't wear a shirt. Unless it looks like me, then buy a shirt, put two on. And, you know, as a guy who's sometimes at the other end of the flogger, it's really important to listen really hard and to really pay attention, to really, really pay attention. Do you ever become the bottom? Ah, my friend.
Oh, you know what? I don't see Bob being a bottom. No. Actually, there is a great story about that. Maybe I'll talk about it later. And it's not, it was fun. It was with, remember I mentioned Mandy? Oh, yeah. I've always thought, despite the, well, boy, there's a lot going on here. A lot to unpack. Okay, so when a top becomes the bottom, that's called being top from the bottom. And so there's people who say, so there's bottoms, you know, people who are at the, you know, at the, as we say, the hard end of the flogger that say, do me harder. No, do my feet. Now do my thighs.
Well, what they're doing is they're telling you what to do, and that's called topping from the bottom. And it's not a bad thing. It is simply a thing, okay? And so have I ever been, sure, I've certainly been with partners who have told me what they want, which I actually kind of like. The fact, though, is that they're always in charge. You have to understand, as the top, you know that you exist at the pleasure of the person who you're clogging. They're telling you what they want, and your job is to do it, and your job is to keep them 100% safe.
You're always going to hear that out of my mouth every single time and so so you have to pay attention so they're always kind of sort of telling you what they want like at one of our parties you know folks that have been here a couple times know what i do and what i don't do okay so when someone comes up to me and says yeah if i want flogging bo. You know, they've already said to me, this is what I want you to do. So they're already kind of sort of in charge. OK, now with Mandy, I've always thought that she could become a real top.
And so so one time when when I don't know if it was at a party or if it was her and her partner, Michael, were here. We wound up, we did a threesome. She and Jay and I, and I played the role of the bottom. And I called her mistress. And she was stroking my cock. And I went, mistress, let me come. She says, no, you can't come. I said, no, please, mistress, let me come. She says, no, you can't come. And she kept stroking my cock and we all knew what was going on, you know? And, and so, and I, and I finally said, mistress, I'll do anything you want if you let me come.
And she says, now you can come. And she let me come.
And it was, and Jay was right there egging us both on and it was really hot see what i mean and you see how the rolls are very flexible because again i was still in charge because i was the bottom sure the bottom is always in charge and so when you're normally atop and you become the bottom you're going oh isn't this interesting i'm still in charge but different so that's a better answer to your question has it happened sure has what would have i ever been tied up tied up and flogged no would i let someone do it maybe um but they would have to jump through a lot of hoops before that would happen sure but it's not something i particularly like when i fantasize to be honest with this that's something i fantasize about but But the thing is, to Donna's point, sometimes you don't know what you want.
Like she said. I was flying to her feet and she came. She didn't know it. No, I didn't. You even said you like a lot of different things. Oh, yeah. Right? Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, duh. Well, and they're still evolving.
They're still evolving evolving i did something to you a night or two ago that you went wow i really like that oh yes oh my gosh i forgot yeah i i like the hand on the throat not too hard no of course um it's just a i don't know just a control thing really see that's one thing i am adamantly against of course yeah and i told when we've shot people with her and we tell them beforehand and i said if you put your hand on her neck we're going to have an issue a couple guys have done it and she'll sit there and grab like no no no and then look at me and i'm like i'm about to kill you oh yeah don't have to talk about that if that's something bothers you.
Absolutely. On a personal level, I find that very degrading. And it's like, you want to degrade the most important thing in my life? Oh, then you'd have to choke me out then. Sure. Come on. Next to my bourbon and my cigars, the next important thing in my life. There you go. Well, in the car, in the chainsaw.
You know, loose change in my pocket well and that's really and that's really about and that what you're talking about is so important it's absolutely about understanding limits and obeying them i know joanne joanne i've been lovers for 10 years and in the moment i and of course there was never any lack of air supply for the fact but it was in the moment that feeling you know was there we didn't have to talk about it because she knows there was never any way i would ever let anything bad happen to joe sure you know and the story and i get the act of even if you just put it up here on the collarbone kind of thing and it's all it's just that motion part of the scene the the reference of what that symbolizes to me it's like nah see again i grew up i grew up in a very violent atmosphere yep and it's like okay if you're going to try to mess with something i love yep we have a problem and that's someone's going to get fucked that's all in a good way that's so that's all in your brain i mean that's i mean all that stuff stuff it's always gonna choke me it's gonna be vince or beat the shit out of me it's gonna be vince it's just yeah i haven't finished the relationship we have i don't have enough lime to fill that hole in the back not yet not yet but it's all the it's what works for and and of course you know to that point um i've uh you know i'm by far not the most experienced on the East Coast, for sure.
That being said, I've had a lot of opportunities, more than most people have, and I've had people ask for things that I won't do. Absolutely. They said, I want you to do this. I went, well, then find somebody else because that ain't happening with me. What kind of things would that be, just out of curiosity? Anything. I have two really hard limits.
First first of all don't ever drink light beer okay i get that i know i know i do have i stand strong with that yeah no i do have two hard limits that i'll never move past and one is humiliation and the other is anything required and about blood yep and it'll play nothing nothing that won't i mean that I mean, those are both non-starters. I had a studio years ago, and a group not far from this area, it was a BDSM group, they actually rented my studio to have their parties, and they had all sorts of interesting things. To say the least.
And they actually asked me, is it okay if we do needle play or fire play? I said, well, if you're going to do fire play you better have a fire extinguisher now my my studio is diamond plate floors so i wasn't so worried about that setting fire to my building and i said the blood play how are you planning on cleaning this up they well isn't going to be blood like you might think and they said we, we'll put a big tarp down. We'll clean it. They were acting really good. It was interesting. They did things with needles and stuff like that and did all these designs. We got your nipples pierced.
I mean, what's, you know, is it? But, yeah, no, it's different. That was my first introduction to some of the toys. Yeah, I don't get it. Well, like I said, we all have our limits. I know mine. Mine is, I mean, the most basic is, no, I will not humiliate you. And, no, I will not pierce you that way. And I'm just, it's like, mm-mm. Yeah, I'm not comfortable with humiliation. When I do some webcams, there's a couple of guys like, I really want you to humiliate me. And I'm like, I'm really, I'll do it because they're paying me. But she practices on me. I do.
Well, you're so, you're just easy, Vince. You're just low-hanging fruit, which I tell you. And I'm cheap, too. She said it, but I agree with her. No, I can't put people down like that. Nope. I mean, I don't know. I don't have it in me to be. To Donna, everybody's a 10. Yeah, I am. When I do my cock reading, sorry, guys. You're all going to be tens. I'm a 1.0. There's a decimal on my team. Well, what can I say? Once again, low-hanging fruit. I'll move on from there. Is it low-hanging? We wish it was low-hanging. And I don't wear boxers just for that reason. No, hon, I love you, dear.
Yeah, okay. I'm not comfortable with that. So communication is the key. That is the key. And one person's oh, yuck is another person's oh, yeah. Oh, sure. Oh, yuck can be an oh, yeah. Trust and safety are probably the biggest issues, I think. But you can say that in life, in any relationship. Yes, of course. Sure. Vanilla relationships.
I think that's where vanilla relationships are vanilla relationships are missing both yeah that's important across the board but uh in this realm you know if you're gonna let someone potentially tie you up or blindfold you there has to be a little bit more because oh yeah you don't know what potentially could happen that's true i could be wrong wrong about a lot of things so you got married twice so that gives a show only twice slacker hey come on i've only been married once slacker but i i fucked a whole lot so overachiever you too i didn't i didn't have to marry them, just to enjoy the benefits.
As they are. Boy. As they are. Sage advice, my friend. Sage advice. Do not marry them just to get all the benefits. Yeah. She drives through Philly, and it's like a parade. All the guys go out, da, line the streets, ticker tape, parade. Yeah. You know, one thing I find about people who, well, people who are good at BDSM, because I'm sure there's bad people. And you may need to define good. Good is they provide pleasure. They provide you the right amount of pain.
um you know is that their ability to read the person that they're working with and that they are they are so focused just on that individual at that point in time to watch everything that's going on in their body you know watching whatever movements or what if they can see their face watching their face and and reading them and i think that is one of the things that when you have somebody you are more likely to go into subspace in that situation than because they are just taking you there because they are doing exactly what your body is asking them to do i've been with guys who say they're into bdsm and what it was was rough sex yeah they're just throwing me around you know trying to face fuck me dragging me around pulling my hair that's not bdsm that is just rough fucking sex and you just want to abuse me that's abuse that was borderline sadomasochist and i do not play with that person ever so just at one time and maybe maybe it was twice because it wasn't so bad the first time but the second time he's like he's just rough he's that's not bdsm that is not power exchange that's just he just wants me to just grab my hair push my face into his crotch face fuck me throw me around no i'm not doing that and that there's tell me this on air yeah well you know i'm sorry hon we're doing it this is actually an intervention yeah there you go but yeah i don't play with him anymore so that is 20 years and all of a sudden i'm finding this out now yeah and and to those well you know the, Vince.
Yeah, the second time. She said for the 30-year anniversary, I'll get my third time. Yeah, and to those of you out there in podcast land, if you're in a relationship and Donna's words rang true for you, that this is not about my love for, let's just call it power exchange, this is for the other person's love of being able to rough sex me, get out of that relationship. Get out of there. Is that safe for you? Run away. Yeah. Later on, I'll give you Vince and Donna's number. But in all seriousness aside, if you're in a relationship like that, get out of that relationship.
We haven't actually given out the podcast email, which is hotwifepodcasts at at gmail.com if you have any questions for us that we can even pass along to uh everybody sitting here to bob jay and and uh joanne she doesn't say much i'm not sure she's the unicorn she's the unicorn yes she is she's just giggling i might have a little she's had a joanne's's had a shit-eating grin on her face pretty much this entire thing. Joanne, well, we all love pleasure. Who doesn't? Who doesn't? Geez, if you don't, you've got a bigger problem. Yeah. Again, back to the whole orgasm thing.
There's such a thing as a bad one.
Well, I think people misconstrue that people in the BDSM just like pain the more pain you give and the more pleasure they think that is like if i beat the shit out of her she's really gonna like it it's like no that's why when i went to training with you bob i had we had to figure out my threshold of what was pleasurable and what became too much first thing and that's that's the first thing the training is so important and i i think that's why i respect you and i i look to you so much for this this kind of information is because with other people they didn't do that like oh yeah i'm in the bdsm no he was just in the rough sex and there's a huge difference so thank you thank you rough sex is just rough sex.
Rough sex. BDSM requires some level of caring. Yes. Bob's just like, don't hurt yourself, Bob. It's okay. It's okay, Bob. About six months ago, we had a guy who claimed to be a rigger. Oh, yeah. I don't think this guy could tie his shoes. When he comes in wearing Velcro sneakers I worry well said yeah he came in with a couple little pieces of this like that plastic roof and he's like why have all these toys he came with one toy and I'm like well this is not gonna this is not gonna go well Crocodile Dund She goes, that's not a toy. She goes, this is a toy. Let me show you.
I got to coil a rope and a cross. I was going to say, if you want to be a rigger, you have to have a membership at REI. Yeah, we use climbing rope. In our thing, we use climbing rope. Do we have REI cut for us? At specific lengths. Yeah, 10-foot lengths, and it works, and it's extremely durable. It's very smooth. It ties really well. It's flexible. So just as a shout-out to REI, if you're out there in the BDSM land and you're looking for tie rope, good old REI. As soon as you ask for 10-foot lengths, they're going to wink at you, just so you know. You were tied up last party, weren't you?
I was, yes. I thought I saw those tits all bound up. And fine tits they are. Oh, pardon me. I got my drink. And that was Tim, which you talked about earlier. Tim was very good at tying. Yes, that is one of his specialties. you know well he used to boat do a lot of boating so he knows all those sailor knots that's interesting oh sure yeah is his boat's name alternate space no subspace that's what i said that's what i said that's what he said yeah subspace that would be cool if his boat was named, you know. Subspace? Subspace. That wouldn't be. I'm not going to go there. Yeah.
You're not going to go there. Yeah. I think you should. Yeah. So Tim was tying you? Oh, I was saying that I've never been, like, hung up before. I've been tied a few different times. But that would be something that I would like to do.
point some uh suspension yeah oh could you could we do that here i'm sure there's all kinds of things we of course it had an eye being put in yeah i i look at all there's a hook there that's that's one really that's different there you know what you don't have you don't have a swing remember we used to have a couple we used to have a swing and it almost took my ceiling down no we had to put an eye bolt actually there's an eye bolt underneath one in the other room there is an eye there in one of the beams because to hang the swing. Yeah. You know, we try to be accommodating to our guests.
We are a full service. We actually just bought a normal, like, canopy patio swing, which is just like a one. Yeah, because the sex swings I don't like. Well, they were $70 more. I don't care. They don't get – they hurt. We have a rand outside our house that has two by four, you know, trusses in. But I'm putting a dual two by six in there so we can, you know, put Donna out there in a swing. On your front porch? Side porch. Side porch. Back and side. Yeah. Away from the neighbors. But think if we tie Donna up to the pole, just at the start of the party, blindfolded.
We can do it now and just wait for the next party. And as people walk in and out. Patience, grasshopper. As people will walk in and out, you know, the door will be open and who the hell knows who's driving by because apparently we have a lot of drive from here to go. Do you know what we do here? One does. Who knows?
We used to well, we don't know who the neighbor is what oh okay before we before we got more sophisticated about this stuff we have a a front door that has on the side panes of glass and it did not occur to us on the first or second or third party that we needed to put paper or something over it because at one of the parties there was a lot of stuff going on in the living room and one of our members said you know i don't know if you know this but one of your neighbors has been walking his dog back and forth and back and forth in front of your house for the last 45 minutes and when i showed up for the party you had me blindfolded then stripped naked on your front porch and you're like and you're like oh nobody can see them like you know what i don't know how they know it's true no they can't i mean if someone was walking by of course they could see and our house and the foliage around it has been planned so that if you're in any of the houses that have a sight line into our front porch you can't see our front porch because there's a tree or a bush or something so if you walk right up to the front door so to speak right you can be stripped naked just like you were i was see what you gotta do is put those pressure pads in your sidewalk out front if someone's walking their dog to get sprayed with like one sprinklers or something or pussy juice oh jeez ladies or cum i'm gonna bring my dog up i went i mean jeez mean, I would do my best But you're going to have to You're going to have to harvest You won't be a main contributor No, I will not be a main contributor I won't even be a Vermont contributor Yeah So Do you feel there's anything else that maybe people need to know?
of you to Ann's telephone number is you know just you know take it slow take it slow if you don't know just take it slow and call Bob actually I was going to say it could be a new career I was actually going to say don't call Bob and what I mean by that is you know and call bob actually i was gonna say a new career i was actually gonna say don't call bob and what i mean by that is you know if you're listening to this with your partner and one of you or both of you are getting a little shall we say plump about this um you don't have to find someone like us i mean you have to go to you don't have to go to a party you don't have to look on SLS all those all those things work I mean we have 525 members of our group those people have sought us out or been sought and much more important is talk about it with your partner find out what you think you both might consider doing try that talk about it again try something else but do it with your partner I mean it's uh you know we talk about of course the trust how important it is think about how more awesome it is to have this kind of trust and and secret and pushing limits and titillation and, my God, I didn't know I liked that experience with someone you're in a relationship with.
And then call us. Again, you can email us and we can get it over to Bob at hotwifepodcasts at gmail.com. So, all right. I think we covered it. Oh, we didn't do our favorite plug for Spunk Lube, but. Oh, my gosh. That stuff is amazing. We had a case and a half of it at our last party, and we had people walking out the door saying, that stuff changed my life. Get out of here. That's too funny. It added to it. It certainly added to it. It would change it. Yeah, it would add to it. Stop the, you know, chafing. Spunkloob. Spunkloob. Yep, go to spunkloob.com.
Remember, if you go, when you get to the checkout area, if you type in hot wife in the discount code, you get 10% off your order. Not a bad deal. No. So water-soluble, non-sticky. It doesn't taste like anything. Yeah, it doesn't taste like anything. It looks like Spunk. Go figure. It looks like Spunk. Spunkboob.com. So I want to thank you. Thank everybody for sitting in. The guys are great. Happy sex, everybody. I like that, happy sex. What other kind is there? Oh, geez. Sometimes there's, like, annoying sex. Revenge sex. It's like revenge sex. Angry sex. Makeup sex. Makeup sex.
Sometimes you have sex without makeup. Guilty sex. Oh, guilty sex. I'm a Lutheran. We are experts at guilty sex. So, yeah, no, there's all kinds of sex. Okay. We'll talk about those in future podcasts. I think we should. I'm a Lutheran, too. That's too funny. Think so? Yeah, I do. I'm a Lutheran, too. Do you have guilty sex? Wouldn't guilty sex be what Jewish people have? I've had guilty sex. And I was married to a Jewish man.
Oh, know i was like really guilty yeah i would have thought jewish people would have guilty sex guilty sex maybe because their mothers can have guilty sex we're taught it from and sex is dirty that kind of thing does baptist have repented when sex is done my mother read the story of oh, so. Yeah, really. She was Lutheran, too. My mom read Popular Mechanics. That explains a lot. No, you cannot use a screwdriver for that. But, Bob, if you want to get the thawzall. Oh, put a different head on that. Put a different head on that baby. No, it's actually a jigsaw. We have different heads for it.
That's all a different head on that thing. Put a different head on that baby. No, it's actually a jigsaw. We have different heads for it. That's all a different podcast. So on our next podcast, we'll talk about angry sex. Angry sex. All right. I'm going to say good night. Have a good night, everybody. Happy sex. We'll see you next time.
