A Conversation with Marie

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It does not reflect the owners of the hot wife podcast the commentary of this program is the sole opinion of its host and guest it does not reflect the opinion of the podcast owners agents or representatives this podcast is not meant to be taken as professional advice Hello, everybody. This is Donna Lynn and welcome to my hot wife podcast. I'm here again here again with my wonderful husband, Vince. You better say wonderful. Yeah, I better say that. So do you want to do the commercials first? Yeah, let's get that out of the way.

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Yes, going to introduce our special guest. Go ahead. Sure, sure. Okay. We have a special guest with us, Marie. She started, Marie, you started listening. You found our podcast. No, they actually have been friends. Well, first of all, hello. Yeah, hello. Well, hello. Nice to hear from you guys, Ken. Yeah. Her and her husband. I believe he's your husband, correct? Yes, he is. Yeah. For 50 years. Wow. They've contacted us originally through the Swinger website that we're on. And had been admirers of the photography of you. Oh, my goodness. Some of these pictures are a little bit dated.

up lots of photoshop there folks no so we we've established a a friendship via emails through that website that's originally how they and i believe i must have mentioned the podcast yeah wow so now you're out in the middle of the country yes uh in the in the midwest small typical midwest town yeah you ready for the eclipse yeah we're going to see about 80 of it um wow we are not we are not going anywhere to see it yeah no i think it goes right over the middle of the country well yeah we're in pennsylvania we saw it um we saw it in 17 and it is really something to experience when you can get the totality yeah it was really cool we saw it in missouri yeah it's um i think we're we're about the 90 percentile we're we're right outside of philadelphia but like erie pennsylvania and pittsburgh they're all going to get it pretty heavy yeah you are so i don't think we'll see anything is it going to be cloudless enough for you to see it that's a good question i have no idea i'm just gonna go back to bed it's nighttime okay so how long have you and your husband been in the lifestyle?

Over 20 years. Oh, okay. So that's awesome. That's like us. Yeah. About 20 years. 20 some years. So that's cool. Yeah. Now you're in the mature group, correct? Yes, we are. Okay. We're both over 70. Wow. Are you really? You sound so young. You really, your voice sounds very young. And the pictures, I would not have guessed. Yeah.

Oh my goodness great congratulations 72 wow see we got something the interesting thing was that we found out as because we every year we have our birthdays we change our our age oh that's good some people don't yeah that 7 in front really made a difference in how many people were interested in contacting us because so many profiles on some of the websites stop at 55 you're kidding me we've had that't i don't call it a problem but i've had uh where people have like oh like they originally reach out to us like hey you know we'd love to meet you guys it's like yeah sure and then they come back oh you're outside of our age group oh boohoo and then of course if they have that parameter then we can't contact them all.

Yeah. We're blocked. But they don't know. It's been interesting lately that some of the people we knew 20 years ago that were maybe 10 or 15 years younger than us are now in their 60s. And they're starting to reach out to us. Maybe for different things. Remember that painting you had you told me about? Yeah, I'm getting that now. Yeah. It's like when we were 20, you thought someone 40 was old. Yeah. All of a sudden you hit 40, you go, 40's nothing. 40's nothing. I'd love to be 40 again. Right.

And there's a cute little saying that's going around my high school graduating class that celebrated 50 years, two years ago, that said, it was really easy to be 20 in the 70s. It's not so easy to be 70 in the 20s. That's good. That is good. That's good. That's the truth.

It's definitely harder times harder times we're not going to even get into that yeah well just just physically there's so many other obstacles i'll call them obstacles i'm not saying that it's insurmountable but there's a lot more physical limitations as you age you know i can't get my legs wrapped around my head anymore when i was you know 30 i could do that i didn't think about it only when i fall down the steps does that happen you know there's so many like yeah and the stamina is not quite there either stamina's not so so bad as long as i depends who you're playing with that's true that your stamina depends on you know if you're playing with someone who's let's say 30 yeah they're going to have more stamina than you well but the excitement levels is is kicked kicked up a notch.

So all of a sudden, I'm like, yeah. Well, but you've had guys, let's say 30s, and they're like, oh, I can fuck for like an hour and a half. And you're like, you've told me, it's like, I don't want to fuck for an hour and a half. Yeah, I get sore. You know, there's only so much. I'm bored. Oh, yeah. It's bored, yeah. Right. It depends on the playmate, too. I mean, some of the young, most of my playmates are half my age to maybe 40-ish. So they're all much more. Do you have any playmates that are younger? Not really.

We've had some over the years, but what sometimes happens is they're newbies, and they look to us for mentorship, and they will play once, and then they find out that it's not as scary as they thought it would be, and then they find people their own age. Okay. And then we lose them. But there's also, right, like I can speak to this area. I can't obviously speak to yours. There is that fetish of these younger men that want older women. Yep, but they really don't know what they're asking for.

Well, I could argue that's okay you have to fund his the whole learning experience so it's um right i'm right i call that a teachable moment a teachable moment there you go yeah um i did have one young man who really um thought that you know the pictures that we had online were just awesome and he's always satisfied about having you know a gilf right a gilf yeah because i am a grandma my grandson's gonna be 16 you know so um but i'm a young at heart grandma and and you know I told him, I said, okay, but you have to understand that there's some things that your wife can do that I can't do anymore, right?

You know, and so maybe I was, you know, trying to be honest and open with him, and I guess I scared him all off. Aww.

Well, but one of the things I've said in the past has been that older women, let me put it this way, mature women, and that for me goes 35 and up, are far more fun to be with because they know how to give and receive pleasure you know women in their 20s um and i hesitate anymore to use the term woman it's more of a more of a still a girl to me anymore now but they they're having sex for the sake of having sex i don't think that i don't i guess i'll use the word integrity isn't there it's just not the same as like when you're with a mature woman again 35 and up that they're into it that they want to give pleasure and they want to receive pleasure and they know how to do it right right they have a good sense of self yeah yeah they're not worried about being judged that's true yeah and in the party we go to the house party we attend now and then um like donna had said the the mean average there is probably 55 i was gonna say 50 sure oh that would be so amazing and it's it's all shapes and sizes and colors and and it's only it maxes out at 12 couples and it's only couples no singles um but and everyone is comfortable in their skin and everyone it's it's unlike i found like at clubs and stuff like that where they kind of it's like high school over again it's like oh clicks here's all the pretty people in this corner here's all you know these people here that it's like it breaks off into that where like this house party is very just just a bunch of people that all are friends and all accept each other and just like hey let's have fun sure and and that's the the best part that's the silver lining of the lifestyle yeah it really is um the other thing is you know we all know people whose relationships were trashed because somebody went behind somebody's back and i think the lifestyle gives a couple the freedom to be able to explore without without risking their relationship yeah that's that's very very true we've seen it with other people with relationships in the vanilla life and somebody steps out on the other and yeah their relationship falls apart where with us it's like hey you know if i get a wild hair up my butt and i want to be with a certain kind of playmate we can do that we can explore that together and it's it's a very um very safe environment it's also uh we work together so we both get some enjoyment out of it you know vince can you know explore whatever sexual things he's into and i can explore mine and it's uh it's it's and that's because you and vince have that foundation Yes.

You know what works and what doesn't work, and you trust each other implicitly. And so that's the best part of that. And there's so many couples who aren't couples in the lifestyle. Yeah. And their partners change almost like their hairstyle. So they don't have that foundation and they don't even realize that they have rules until somebody breaks one and that destroys the relationship. Yeah.

But when, I mean, like I said, we've been been we've been together for over 50 years and that makes such a difference because we went into this together both of us you know he wasn't having to convince me that it was going to be okay um we had a a little tryst with the neighbor across the street when we were really younger and that was fun and and so i guess that's really kind of what precipitated uh when we got a hold of a magazine in one of the um um adult toy stores oh wow and uh then we saw we happened to see that there was a um a group taking a hotel party 20 minutes from the house so we decided to you know dip our toes and see what that was all about yeah and that was the start of it that was over 20 years ago Yeah.

Well, had actually one of the last few shows we talked about one of the interesting aspects of the lifestyle is a normal vanilla couple is if all of a sudden one of them decides they want to try something outside their norm you know it's very difficult you know like right now and not me but those who enjoy it that's great if the the male let's say decides he thinks he might be bi you know go into his wife and go honey i i kind of would like to play with a man with you you know that sometimes goes over like a fart in church yes you know but um but in a a lifestyle couple you know if a husband went to the wife and says you know i'd like to see you play with another man and i might join him i join you with him and actually help you with him the wife would go okay that's a little weird but okay okay but you know yeah yeah so it it it smooths out some of the potential bumps you know for sure and again another show we had done was about how the swingers uh divorce amongst swinger couples is so drastically lower it's it's only like two to four percent of swinger couples get divorced i would agree with that yeah yeah because you're open and honest well it's um for us the key and because there is no fear of retribution we can be completely honest with each other we absolutely as honest as we can be and i can come to you and be like you know hey i want to try this bdsm stuff i want to be restrained i know that you're not into that and it's not a big deal but i get to experience that and you know see what it's all about and i helped you with, I took you to someone.

Yeah, exactly. I just said, as long as you're safe, I don't care. And it's because of communication. You didn't, you know, tell me I was weird or think I was, you know. Oh, I thought it. You think I'm weird on so many other things. It doesn't matter.

But if I had gone into a vanilla relationship and said, hey, I want to be tied up and spanked, you know i i don't know if i would have gotten the same kind of positive reinforcement yeah for sure yeah and again it's because you have that foundation of your relationship and and there's that's kind of there's two different kinds of swingers there's the ones that only want you know let's just fucking get it over with and then there's the other ones who would like like us want to build a relationship with you Thank you. It's not where we're going. So, you know, again, there's no judgment.

they've got plenty of friends they just want to fucking get over it and i went okay that's fine for you that's not where we're going so you know again there's no judgment yeah right that's fine for you we're not a good match for you yep and that's and that's how you you know play that there's a term that it that you two sound like you are defining for me which is called compersion Are you familiar with that? No. No. It's...

sound like you are defining for me which is called compersion are you familiar with that no it's it's a term that says when you're in a relationship you are more concerned with the happiness of the other person than your own and i find that when couples bring that to their relationship, both of them are happy. Yeah. And things go much better than if one has expectations of the other and wants it always done, or they want to be in control of what the other person does.

Yeah, I's actually i mean i am much more happy watching donna give and or receive pleasure than worry about worried about my own pleasure i mean right you know most of what we do is her playing with somebody and then once they leave her and i go and have our time and we kind of rehash what went on and how i thought it was erotic, and she tells me how she thought it was erotic, and we make our own erotic moment. And it lights your fires, too. Yep, exactly. Is that kind of what you and your husband are into? Yeah. That's cool.

And again, now that as we're getting older and things don't always do what we want when we want them to, there are other ways to make each other feel good, too, and with other couples. So for us, it's not always about just getting into the bed. It's about getting dressed nicely, going to a nice place, sharing a meal, sharing a glass of wine or something, and having a really good conversation too. And that makes the night for us. And if the bedroom works into that, that's just the frosting on the cake for them. Oh, I agree. I agree. I'd say most of our playmates, they're also our friends. Yes.

You they'll they'll come over and just hang out and no play time just hang out have a couple drinks in you know or the we had one guy come over and help us you know rebuild our deck that was a romantic time but yeah he said i'll help you he wanted to work out so good for him excited me It's the best work I have to do. Vince was really excited by that. I was kind of hard. Of course, yeah. That's the best way to, I think, take advantage of what the lifestyle has to offer.

Well, if I just wanted to fucking move on, I feel like i'm missing so much more than what the experience could be because the more i know the playmates that we have over the better the experience is then it's they'll know me then they'll know that hey you know donna likes to have her hair pulled i'm going to pull her hair if they don't know that they're going to be missing a whole a whole big thing that i find exciting. And the same thing with them. They have needs and they want to do something and they ask me to do it. I won't know that the first time unless I have a checkbox.

Do you like to have your balls licked, yes or no? I mean, I could have a questionnaire for them, but I think once you build a relationship, you're friends now. It's more than just fuck buddies. Anybody licks my balls, they're my friend. Anybody? Anybody? I have to wet them the balls. Oh, okay.

Well, and you know, having been in those first couple of years, the most awkward part is trying to figure out okay we've just had a nice dinner we're relaxing over a glass of wine we're at somebody's house how do you get to the bedroom do you get to the bedroom when do you get to the bedroom i guess you just start taking off your clues and hey i find the easiest thing to do is just you know like i'll use the house party we go to yeah you start talking to someone and then like what i'll do is i'll sit there and ask them like you know can i kiss you and then hopefully they all have said yes right start kissing and you start touching and you know spend a few minutes doing that and you go do you want to go someplace else go downstairs yeah and there we go bada bing bada boom yeah and the liquids start flying yeah i i think when uh we're at the party and there were the the upstairs is where the food is it's more of a social thing but you know people are always coming by and grabbing my ass or they'll come by like you know fondle my breasts and so you're you know you're standing near the appetizers oh that's that's what i was doing wrong i guess i thought my tits were like an appetizer appetizer of some sort but you know there's that kind of you know playful uh playful groping and then if it goes further so you ask you playful flirting and then you can take it downstairs but when I try she slaps me oh well you know you're different I don't know why it's you like being slapped one of the nicest things you can do is just hold somebody's hand and lead them into the other room after you've established, you know.

Well, look at that exact scenario. If you're the person, like if you came up to me and grabbed my hand and started leading me away, to me, that's erotic. It's like, wow, I turned her on. And then you accepting, like you seeing, I'm like, yeah, let's go. That's got to make you feel good.

Like, you know, without saying anything that without saying anything that says everything right exactly if somebody has to make the first move grab somebody's hand and lead them someplace yeah and that's there's good ways to do that and then there's not so hopefully it all turns out good but when you know the people when you get a chance to spend time with them um it it makes all the difference in the world rather than just the meat machine that some places get to be yeah i don't i don't find that very attractive i mean i get it people are really you know in that mindset they're just really horny i i guess that's very exciting to them i don't know i don't i i like having that kind of friendship i like having that rapport with somebody well it depends on if if the person or people are are they trying to just get notches on the bedpost or are they trying to have a good experience well there are some and you've mentioned that that's the group that you usually get together with is over 50 we started out in a in a group a number of years ago and the group started at 35 and went up well now that same group is um 40 and under and we're definitely out of a fish out of water in that group because when you when you consider that younger group they probably have kids at home they probably have a blended family they're paying for babysitter They're needing to make the most of this adventure they're taking.

And so they're in it to score. And they can get kind of cramped with that. And that's just not where we're going anymore. No, I've seen that.

I've seen those people that like that like okay we're away from our kids we just want to have all out abandoned you know sex just because we don't know we're going to get out nothing matters to us we just want to forget the kids forget the bills forget my job where people again 50 and over let's say it's like right okay we kind of have our lives under control somewhat you know so it's it's now it's about again i think mature people tend to enjoy sex more well there isn't that that rash you know hurry we gotta have sex because we don't know when we're gonna get out again we're gonna have a baby before the pill wears off i got one hour let's get this going i don't know what you're referring to.

Yeah. And for me, it takes way more than an hour to really get going. God bless you. Yeah. Sometimes the ball doesn't get rolling right away. It's nice having that buildup of teasing and foreplay and banter and flirting. Yeah. i like that yeah no it's well that's the whole social dance that goes along with it well and that's what's nice again i'll use the party we go to occasionally um it's the only one measuring stick yeah but again we have a relationship and they don't have a party every month they have it every two to every. Right.

So again, you see the people you haven't seen them in a while. So that kind of adds to it. And again, you have a relationship with them, but it's not, you know, it's both friendly. And I mean, there's times I go into the party and the women are like, Hey, as we're leaving, like I didn't get to see you tonight, you know, it's like, well, I got occupied with four other women. Well, and it's not the end of the world. Yeah, but the next time, you know, they're like, you know, next party, you know, I want your time. It's like, sure.

And then so someone, I hate to say conceited things, I'm not trying to be conceited, but some women I don't get to play with this time, because I play play with them this time and I don't get to play with them next time. Got to share, you know. You know, the time you spend with each woman down just a little bit. How do you spend about 45 minutes with each one? Exactly. Cut that down to a half hour and you can fit more women in. Okay.

I'm sure they'll be fine with a half hour i'm sure they'll be fine okay i don't i don't sit there and look at my watch i'm looking at something okay next take the watch off yeah with what i'm doing i'm not even paying attention that there's a watch on my wrist you're doing it right yeah but i'm doing i'm not even paying attention that there's a watch on my wrist right you're doing it right yeah but uh so what what kind of things what do you enjoy are you uh into bdsm or just no um i'm i'm more into the soft stuff i like i really enjoy massages i'll do anything for a massage yeah that one is good that's my wheelhouse yeah i like hot tubs i like um i like cuddling there you go you know and and if if it's if i'm with somebody where the night's not going to work out for that person cuddling and massage is a good night for me sure where the night's not going to work out for that person.

Cuddling and massage is a good night for me. Sure. So I don't always have to do the other. And there's other ways to come. So sometimes we like toys. You know, you can take toys and take care of the, you know, the need to actually get off. but it doesn't always have to do that. So, you know, and it really depends on who you're with. But at this point, I've been able to be selective enough that I won't get with somebody who's really aggressive and really demanding. And that works out for me. So I like a lot of foreplay, finger dancing. Okay. A lot of oral sex is really good.

I love giving as well as receiving. So when are you coming to the Philadelphia area? well i have a sister who lives in Dover and a nephew who lives in Philly. Okay. Well, you need to visit them. It sounds like an invitation. It is. Okay. We don't have a hot tub, but if you come during the summer, we have an in-ground pool. Oh, that's good. Let's see, we have a nice morning. So when are you coming to Wisconsin? Because we have a hot tub. Oh, we did have a hot tub at one time. It was too much time. You send your husband out here, I'll go out there. Okay, there you go. Oh, I would rather...

Nah, we need the four of us together first. Okay, that's fine too. Because I would really like some time with Lynn, too. Sure. I'm definitely bi. Okay. My husband is definitely straight. Him and I have that in common. Yeah, my door definitely swings both ways. I'm just like, whatever. I glued my door shut. it shut and and it's the funny thing i have learned over the years is that um i'm a nudist and as soon as i can get my clothes off i i do and i i enjoy that but i am so surprised at how many swingers don't like taking their clothes off.

They't even like the lights on i'm going oh man you're just missing so much i mean you know this nudist and swingers are there is an overlap but they're two distinct different groups they are very different there's a nude resort um hour and a half from here that a lot of people go to and they'll tell you that there are people go there that are swingers that fake for the first time and they think that it's like a big swinger thing but it's not. That conduct is not allowed. You have to rent a cabin and go in the cabin. You're going to get intimate. We were at one like that as well.

It was a family See you next week.

cabin yeah you're gonna get intimate and you know um yeah so yeah we were at one of one like that as well okay it was a family nudist campground yeah and there were a lot of swingers there and and the owners were very clear this is not a swinging campground you do that in your cabin yep you do that in your trailer sure absolutely yeah not that outdoor sex is erotic Anytime so there's a time and place like anything else sure sure yeah I mean we had some nude beaches in New Jersey that got shut down that I'm not trying to be off color with this or anything else but basically the gay community ruined it because the gay people um predominantly men from what we're told could not refrain from touching each other on the beach and it got shut down because of that you know yeah the heterosexual people weren't the problem no no it's a shame The nudists weren't the problem.

Yeah. had the same thing in in our state and it just it was sad because um there a group of um nudists did band together form an association and tried to clean it up and actually got some really good facilities there And then we had some state senator who got a bug up his butt and decided it was obscene and we had to close it down. You're born naked. Come on. Yeah, really. Yeah. He was too uptight.

He couldn't see that that's how we were all made in the first place yeah actually new jersey um the governor they had yep uh some years ago did the same thing all the state nude beaches there was like four in new jersey i think there was something like that and she shut all of them down so but there's one big one up close to new York, and up in north jersey that is a privately owned uh beach area that's still open it's a huge so but at least there's some place to go yeah yeah and we just go down to the pool yeah nice thing for us our properties our house is built into a hill it's all wooded and private and so we can swim in our pool naked you can sunbathe on on our decks.

You can have sex on our decks. If you come out, you'll find out. Oh, that sounds like a good place to come. Yeah. And you can also show up. Pun intended. Okay. No pun intended, huh? No pun intended. Yeah. So, but, yeah, no, it's all good. We're right there with you on the same thing. I mean, Donna is a lot more edgy with stuff and everything else. I have my moments. Yeah. And you can see that with your photographs. You have such a gorgeous body and you use it so well. And he captures it in such unique conditions. It's all Vince. He just tells you what to do. I break these up real tall.

You have a good subject. She makes it easier on me. I give good loans. Oh, that's good. That's good. But, yeah, no, it's, as you, I think, now we do, we know some mature people that are far more rambunctious. Oh. Like the host of the party is an example. I think he's far more, like most of us at the party are a lot more subdued. Right. I don't even want to say subdued.

I want say chill level-headed okay level-headed okay i don't know where are you going with this yeah um but he's like a lot more got a lot of energy and he's what he's 70 yeah he's seven he's he goes at it like a 18 year old yeah pretty much good for him i don't know to what level of success i just know he does that i don't i'm not in there watching the three uh the foursome we had remember we went there we yeah we it was just a social thing and then we ended up you know playing and it was it was very erotic it was very very erotic yeah the four of us so it was definitely a good time.

Well, the spontaneity makes it erotic.

Yeah, that's to me it's always been one of the most erotic things in life is spontaneity right you know when that passion or whatever you want to word it as just comes out and everyone goes with it yeah yeah that was one of those afternoons boy there was like a i don't know what happened to me man a switch got turned on video oh yeah i know well i could see what happened to me but i don't know what happened in my brain it was like wow it was it was definitely fun it was definitely a really good time definitely a good time so you and your husband enjoy doing some photography right we do we do um he he has a good eye for it as well but we don't know quite how to set up we we have some beautiful space outside and so that's where most of the really nice uh photographs are taken and uh and then sometimes we had a real fun time one time with a a couple that that we played with very limitedly Thank you.

And then sometimes we had a real fun time with a couple that we played with very limitedly, but she only had one picture on her website. And we told her husband, we said, look, you got to take some more pictures. So we invited her here for a lingerie show to bring whatever lingerie you have.

on over we'll do a lingerie show and then you know uh your your guy and my guy can take pictures and that turned out beautifully they had some really nice shots from doing that great yeah what you show in your profile i think is really really important i mean if you don't have any pictures up you're never ever going to get any kind of contact from yeah anybody we won't we have people mostly single males contact us and they have no pictures i block them yeah it's like no you're not yeah my theory is if you're mature enough to play in the swinger game, you should be able to put pictures up.

Yeah. Well, and then there's always the situation where there'll be pictures of a female on that website with him, but there isn't a female. Right. Yeah. Yes. And so there's those who try to come off as a couple couple and they really aren't yep oh we've had that oh yes oh well um that's my wife and she's uh she's sick now and she's giving me permission to keep playing yeah yeah all right you know and go ahead yep i i we we won't we won't set up a meet and greet without talking to her. And I need to talk to her.

And that's been something that we did right from the beginning because you find out the hard way that there are some gals in the lifestyle that don't want to be there, but they're only doing it for him. Oh, yeah, take one for the team. And that's painful to watch.

That's painful's painful to watch yeah we've played with a few that the woman you could tell wasn't really into it and she started to play with me and i was able to convince her it wasn't so bad and donna tells me later she's like the guy is whispering to her, it's like, she never comes comes like that for me I know exactly what you're talking about I hope he was taking notes probably not, he's probably more thinking of himself that's the secret one of my secrets is take yourself out of the equation when you're playing with someone else it should be about them yeah well that's that compersion thing it should be about the other person and you'll both benefit from it and ultimately well my claim to fame apparently is my oral prowess and yeah um yeah at the party at the at the party um i will actually service more women than donna gets to play with people in general and he's such a slut these women all are like i mean i can've got a strong tongue.

I can go at it for over an hour and a half on one person. Wow. Over a tongue. And I'll do these women each for 45 minutes at the party. And they will come. The one woman came over 65 times, according to her. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's what they say.

And at the table up in the kitchen, you'll see six women sitting there look like they were hit by a car their hair's all disheveled they can't they can't they're trying to drink water and it's spilling down the front of them and i have to help them up the steps um and uh so that's quite a skill set you have there yeah apparently i get I had from it so i'm of the proud peacock mom they thank her yeah they come up to me that it's almost like they're kissing the ring you know what i'm saying oh thank you donna thank you for sharing him husbands all hate me but that's another story so oh but um yeah so to me, I just take myself out of the equation.

Not one of these women actually, when I'm done with them, has enough energy to even try to play with me. And that's fine. I'm cool with that. I'm good with that. I have... Got to leave them with a little bit. I enjoy bringing these women pleasure. Well, of course.

That's the whole purpose of the lifestyle yeah I think so yeah it is all about the pleasure and some people have different parameters on what that is and how to get there and it's kind of fun figuring all that out and it's still fun it never gets old no it doesn't get old yeah you're always finding out new things about yourself that that you didn't know before especially well me this is the bdsm thing is a relatively new thing for me and it's not true bdsm i just like being restrained i like my hair pulled i like being flogged you know very nothing you found out you like your feet being flogged oh my love my feet being flogged oh my god i did you know i love a foot massage i love that too but this is this just happened by accident oh my god i went to a whole different level i didn't know what was going on it was unusual but that's what the lifestyle was all about i found out something about myself i didn't really know existed you know you never know until you until you try something new that's right yeah yep and i have a husband that supports me that's what the we did this together he you know and that makes.

And that makes it really so much freer when you have that kind of support. And she also knows that I'm right there, that if something is going wrong, she's safe. Right. Sure. Safety is always important in any circumstance, for sure. Yes. That's a key element right there yeah yeah and and i've been known not to really be paying attention to what was going on and he had to come in and say okay this is done oh wow and i didn't realize what was going to happen next until he he came in and i went oh wow i i was in la la land he said your were closed. You didn't see what he was doing.

I went, oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah, you're enjoying yourself, you know. Yeah. Yeah, like some of the things that we don't allow is rough sex or choking, you know. No choking. No, for sure. We tell guys, I tell them, I'm not a small man, and I used to bounce bachelor parties and stuff, and I'm like, if I see you try to choke her, I'm going to more than choke you, and we don't want that. Most of them are like, okay, I'm sorry, I would never think of that. It's like, no, you better not. Yeah, we've been lucky. Most people are respectful, so that's good. Yeah.

Well, and that has to be you know absolute given is that respect has to be there all the time sure and um it just that's just uh the only way it works if you have respect for each other and yourself sure sure i tell these guys i'm willing to share the most precious thing that i own and i don't mean own in a bad way oh you mean your car Here we go. And yourself. Sure. Sure. And yourself. I tell these guys, I'm willing to share the most precious thing that I own. And I don't mean own in a bad way. Oh, you mean your car. You're going to share your truck. Yeah, my truck.

Yeah, you can borrow my truck. Don't scratch it, though. But, you know, if you do something to hurt her, the wrath of hell is coming down on you. You know?

And they'll never find your your body just telling you we've been very lucky everybody's been very very respectful so that's good yeah yeah i haven't met anybody um you you can it's pretty easy to spot somebody who's got a chip on their shoulder or who is looking for roughness and there's actually places for them but i i kind of stay away from those places um that's not my scene and i'm not there to judge anybody else's scene i just know what i like and what i don't like so that's you gravitate to what you like and you kind of avoid what you don't like yeah exactly and and meeting uh prospective playmates too i i find out that we kind of have like a vetting process we go through you know for somebody who might potentially be a good playmate we kind of like you know we end up having like a conversation with them see what they're into it's not like a meeting you know shake hands okay let's go have sex it's like no right let's get to let's get to know each other a little bit let's have drinks let's have some social time so it's usually like an hour exactly and that sounds like you know you do the same kind of vetting that we do it's it's not a one and done thing and there's no guarantees that there's going to be playtime ever until we establish a relationship and we know what you're like and and you know Thank you.

can't come to my house why is your wife there yeah there's some that play that game they play that game they do they do you know what this has been incredible i've enjoyed this conversation good i have too it was fun i'm uh i'm glad i could give you a little bit older perspective on on what it means to be mature just because we're older doesn't mean we've lost it all. There's different ways to have your sexual pleasures and still hold your respect. That's it. And I'm saving money to go to Wisconsin right now. I'm going to either rent a car or buy a plane ticket. I'm not sure. You're not sure.

Oh, my God. I got a hot tub and a sexy woman waiting for her. I think you were talking earlier about the hot tub. I think that's what got you. That and she loves oral sex. Well, there you go. Oh, my goodness. And massages. I do. I'm good with massages. You are good with massages. He's got very good hands. I'm a big bear. All right.

Next time you want to come to the midwest you know where to go it'll be the first time yeah i've flown over it i just haven't been there nobody stopped here it's a flyover state it's a flyover state but we've been to las vegas that's a little bit past yes a little bit So, I mean, that's about as, we haven't been to every, you know, but we haven't been to the middle states, the liable states. Now, Wisconsin's one I would go to, though, especially now. Especially now. I wonder why. What else is Wisconsin known for besides cheese? I'm sorry, I missed that question.

So what else is Wisconsin known for besides cheese? Is there any, like... Packers? The Packers? The Green Bay Packers? I'm not a sports fan, so... Oh, dear, I'm sorry. No. I bleed green and gold. My best friend is a huge Packer fan, so if I went there, I'd have to buy him some paraphernalia. You would. I had a friend, I had someone come out from Illinois, and he brought one of those cheese hats for him. He went apeshit crazy when he got that. I bet he did. Those are collector pieces. Oh, my goodness. They're very valuable. Yeah, Wisconsin has some beautiful, beautiful scenery.

We've got the Wisconsin River that meets along with the Mississippi River. And we've got two of the five great lakes that border our state. There you go. Michigan and Superior. Yeah. And they're wonderful. They're wonderful places to hang out. Thank you. state. There you go. Michigan and Superior. Yeah. And they're wonderful. They're wonderful places to hang out and enjoy nature. And your hot tub. And our hot tub. A great place to see her nature. Her nature. That's always nice. You could in my backyard pretty much anytime.

Do you have a massage table or do I have to bring my own there's there's a shelf on the hot tub that's used for massages interesting we have a massage table so I can put you out here on my deck and put some nice oil and rub you up and shot a video of Donna getting a massage from a gentleman and wound up fucking him I shot the video through my fire pit at night while she was getting a massage I still think it's probably one of those erotic videos that really sounds exciting and erotic it really really was yeah and watching the videos like i go back and i watch them like man that was so erotic that was fun yeah it was there used to be a song out um probably in the 70s or 80s i like a man with slow hands.

Oh, yeah. Yep, yep. That's really when I, yep, that's what I really enjoy. Slow hands, anywhere you want them. Okay, I'm booking my ticket now. Oh, God, Vince. You're wacky. Yeah, I try. That's all right. So, can't thank you enough. This was a great conversation. Yeah, this is really great. Well past due. Thank you. And it won't be the last. Hopefully we'll have to come up with some other topics we can consult you on. Sounds good. You know how to get a hold of me. Yeah, we do now. I know what I want to get a hold of, that's for sure. He's incorrigible. Thank you guys so much.

You guys take care. Okay, you two. Thank you. Tell your husband we said hello. Okay. I will. I will. All right. You take care. Bye. All right, we want to thank everyone for listening. And until next time, that was our conversation with Marie. Wonderful. And she was a delight. And can't wait to talk to her again and jump in her hot tub with her um here we go with the hot tub so again reach out to us info at hotwifepodcast.com and until next show have a great night everybody