Height

And married guys want me to suck their cock..

I must be one, I am always referred to as Ma'am, use the ladies restroom and dressing rooms.....

I've always loved tall women, So much so I became one sorta......Mary Jo

People in America are slaves to the meida. Pounding is what is done in porn which started in the last five years or so.

Shaving all the hair off of ones body was started in porn around ten years ago or so. America do whatever the meida does.

The rest of the world cant understand why we so blindly do as the meida does.

@ZAK

Hmm. I wonder if it is your location or the people that you are running into. When we lived in FL, I think I heard 'pounding' once or twice. In the last 16 years of being CA, I don't think I have ever heard it once.

We have run into some that we think are a little crass and then we look at what they do for a living and . . . well . . . it makes sense.

Sorry that you have run into a bunch of shitheads!

Good luck in finding what you are looking for.

Thanks for all your comments, it really brings in a different perspective. Everyone has their likes and dislikes. But I think a lot of it is just society's view. For example when I was in France, height didn't matter. Just seems to be an American thing.

Pounding is from the porn of today. Simply say gentle, my does not like rough sex. And yes you will get rejected by most of the profiles as only around 305 of them are for real.

Remember that swinging is dead and gone and the lifestyle has replaced swinging. The people who want to fuck are swingers and are few and far in between.

Well....maybe a little...but it might have something to do with the 36 plus profiles we have block because at some point in chatting the guy would say how he would love to give my wife's ass a good pounding....

We also met a couple at an event once and the guy was ready to help me DP my wife but his wife had no interest in joining us at all but she was ok with him going with us so he could "Give her a good pounding". Needless to say I did not let him near my wife.

Also I do not have anything against those that are looking for Fuckmate...I myself was one back in my mid 20's. I was a member of SLS when it was a paperback newsletter that you could only find in certain book stores.

We have come close a few times meeting couples that we felt that we could be FWB but something either came up in our life or theirs that kept it from happening. but we keep looking

@ZAK

I think you went a little too far in your assumptions :) You got a bad Venn diagram.

Are there those that just want to fuck and not socialize? Yes. Does it mean that they don't care how tall a woman/man is? Does it mean that they just want to pound? Nope to both.

Are there those that want to socialize and then see where it progresses? Yes. Does it mean that they don't care how tall a woman/man is? Does it mean they just want to pound? Nope to both.

We are probably a hybrid of that. After doing this for over 20 years, we have learned that if you go into it trying to find friends first you will leave with your spouse. What you are really trying to do is find someone who is at the same position in their life than you are so that your agenda's align. That is REALLY hard. That is nearly impossible if kids are involved. For us in our over 20 years, only one person has met our child. There are 4 that know our child's name. We have met people who struggle to shop at Walmart and people who are worth 9 digits. By establishing that we are in it for sex and if friendship happens, things are so much easier.

In other words . . . if we wanted to find friends we would be on find a friend site, not on a sex site. :)

Being rejected is the internet. Get used to it. Most people are fakes or flakes, never having any intentions of getting naked and having sex with you and your wife.

We are fit athletic people at still get rejected by the fakes and flakes

Not quite. We are the swingers that jut want to have a fuckfest. We do not want FWB just some fun NSA sex for the moment. We do not want to go dancing, we want to fuck and spend the evening fucking. We NEVER meet single men. My wife does not have girl girl or gang bang fantasies.

We always talk to the other couple on the phone and then meet for a drink. If the chemistry is there we fuck them full swap within a hour, We never "pound" a woman, nor does my wife have sex with other women. Rough sex is bad sex, we dont do porn sex.

Always the women are the goddesses and their pleasures come first. Sex is gentle and sensual just the way women like it.

Turn off the porn, stop pounding women and stop thinking that couples want to meet single men or that women only want to do girl on girl. That happens because women hate being pounded like you see in porn.

First we see it as there are 2 major types of swingers -

!. Those who are looking for Fuckmates which are the ones that just want to show up and fuck or be fucked. The guys will will be the type that say "they are all the same height in bed" and just want to give them a good pounding, their only concern is they are in shape enough to stand up their ego alpha attitude. The women would be the ones that want to play out their girl/girl fantasy or gang bang fantasy and also would be mostly concerned about physical ability and state you must be 8" or more to ride this ride.

1. Then there are the Playmates....the ones who like going out for drinks and want to have somethings in common before hitting the sheets. Trying to have the true FWB scenario. The guys are the ones who are usually more concerned with both wife's satisfaction before their own and the wives will have the major say so if playing should happen. These will be the couples that will have different standards for age, height and location because they want to socialize more like dancing or just hanging out.

My wife really prefers the guy to be taller then her, dancing, hugging and kissing are major warm up to playing for her so the guys in the 6 foot range really gets her attention. I myself find a woman that is 5'5" or shorter and can strut around in 5" heels really gets my attention. Yet we are flexible depending on other preferences. For us it is just important how well we jell with another couple socially as sexually.

We also have been rejected many times either due to distance, age, weight or me being to hairy or having facial hair which my wife loves so that is't changing.

So the search goes on......

Jerseygirluni, I bet you are gorgeous to meet in person. I think everyone has their likes and dislikes. I know if I was to walk, dance with a women who is a few inches taller then I am, it would seem strange to me. So I can understand a women wanting a man who is taller then her. I've been with women who were taller then I, and been with women who were shorter then I. My wife is shorter then I, it doesn't make me feel more or less of a man, I am who I am. I spend some time in southern France, while there I had the chance to meet quite a few people. From my perspective I saw and was treated for who I was, height didn't matter. I learned that it is pretty much an American thing to be hung up on height.

LOL you and every other women. There are just so few fit men of any height anymore. So few fit women as well. You would have loved the days before the media started pushing the high fat diet as healthy. It was rare to see an overweight person at a swing club or party.

Gotta chime in on this...as a single straight female. My profile says I'm straight....I am. I'm bi friendly...meaning women don't turn me on, but in the context of play, I'm open to the experience and can both give and receive pleasure from it. But I'm turned on by men...and need the real deal (toys, a woman, oral have never produced the same O that I get with a man inside me.).

Most messages I receive are couples that list a bi wife and straight hubby....for me, that usually means they want a unicorn for a 3 some. Ok....but if hubby isn't gonna finish the job.....wtf? Also get lots of hubbys looking for a girlfriend for their bi wife. Then there are the single men....most of which are clueless or lying.

Additionally, I've observed both in messages and in perusal of profiles, the majority of men here are less than 6 feet tall. Most are fairly fit, some really good looking. But I'm 5'10"....without slut boots on. I need a big, tall guy. Practically....it's just easier for any standing positions. Personally, tall, big, masculine guys are what I'm attracted to. I feel safe, protected, dominated and feminine with a man bigger and heavier than I.

Reality for me is that I choose 6 foot and above. My ideal is 6'4" or so......it's a pipe dream....as is a woman who loves watching her man fuck me.

I would question your thoughts if you’re agreeing with nCal. There is a reason we call refer to him as NutJob.

Bi women are really bizarre rude and childish sometimes. One time at a party where everyone was playing my wife said no to a thirty year old blonde woman. She pitched a hissy fit right in the middle of an orgy. Amazing

Several time my wife has hand long sharp finger nails in her pussy during group sex. Those thing hurt. I dont know if bi women know how to fuck..lol

Thanks so much for your reply's. ncalcouple , again I agree with you 100%. hollyblue, It's nice to know people who we agree with are out there, thanks for the feedback. One thing that we do know that is a handicap is our is our location.

As for the bi, I list myself as straight. I am sure that is a no go for some of the couples that do want girl/girl play. As far as height, Licker really hasn't voiced an opinion about that for the lady he would play with. Me on the other hand are attracted to men of height, 5'11" +.

Wish I had a nickel for every couple who has lied about me not being bi not being an issue. All too often bifurious women have tried to convert me to the dark side. They can be super rude, sexually harassing, and very deceptive. So, to answer your question: yes, it is an issue if you encounter the rude ones who simply don't say, "Sorry, don't think we're a good match." If you haven't encountered them yet, you probably will. When you do, bear in mind that they are as frustrated as you might be trying to find a couple. Desperation has just driven them to silly means.

The difficulty is finding a full swap couple where bi-female play isn't an issue. In some areas you may feel like you're the only couple out there; especially when you're looking for legit hwp. As far as height goes, it can be an issue of preference. We know several taller ladies who don't like playing with men under 6' and its not a big deal. It is just frustrating trying to find couples with the same preferences. Definitely keep in your profile that you are full swap. It lets people know what you're looking for. Also, if you haven't already, try and find local parties, clubs, or events to meet people. Good luck.

Very true. for me the tallest woman i played with was around 6'2" or so and the shortest around 5'. For my wife the tallest man was 6'8" and the shortest man was around 5"4".

The largest cock she said was around 10 inches ( to big) the shortest was around 3 inches. The condom on that short cock kept falling off in her pussy, they where laughing their asses off. He was very talented with his tongue and my wife had a great time.

The largest boobs on i woman i had sex with where natural dense 44's or so on a beautiful fit blonde, hardly any sag. so big and out of proportion to her body that they looked strange on her. the smallest where nipples on a tight fit body that would get a dead man hard looking at her ass in cutoffs.

I remember both women fondly one was when i was to young and the other was a sex starved divorce that i took care of for six months until she got into a good relationship.

A bit of a thread drift, but the shortest girl we ever played with was 4'10" and the tallest was 6'1 or 2". Both were lovely and fun ladies.

One time at Caliente we were purposely meeting the couple with the short girl and accidently ran into the couple with the tall girl there.

We did not all play together that weekend, but my memory of those two girls talking by the pool is priceless.

It simply reminds me that "sexy" can come in a wide variety of shapes and forms.

For couples that are real swingers height mean nothing. fitness means so much more. Your problem is that there are so few real swingers left. Porn has been pushing violent sex for years now and the men fuck like porn does turning off the women to sex with other men. So few women today know what gentle intercourse is that they only want to play with other women just so they can have gentle touch.

Your problems have nothing to do with you and your height. Women dont want sex with men and prefer other women because men fuck so violently now. there are very full real full swap swingers left.

Hedo, from your posts it looks like you've focused on your height and her status as a straight female as being the main factors keeping you from making connections. The thing to remember is, these are things you really can't change. It's who you are. So it's useless to beat yourself up over it. Focus on the things that you CAN change. And don't worry about the things that you can't. And remember that if other folks decide to pass because of those things, it's not that they're bad people, it's just a case of desires not lining up. Not a big deal, it happens to us all.

Most importantly, find those things that make you awesome, fun folks to play with. And find a way to communicate that in your profile and your face-to-face meetings. Takes work, but you can do it. And you can have fun on the way.

Good luck.

I know you are asking about couples, but not only do I play with couples, I sometimes play as a couple.

I have no problem playing with couples where the woman is straight in threesomes or foursomes. I do tend towards men who are quite tall, but it's not a deal breaker.

Your profile could use some work. It's possible that asking for help in Better Profiles would give you some useful advice and increase your potential playmates. It's not always a pleasant experience, though.