Single Males Open to a Long Term/Ongoing/Regular Situation

One of the things that wasn't mentioned by the OP but is something I've seen by some couples looking for this sort of arrangement is exclusiveness. I've also seen that with couples looking for an ongoing thing with other couples. They likely want to minimize the risk of STDs in either case, but limiting things like that kind of defeats the purpose of swinging IMHO. I know we personally tend to avoid any situation where someone is trying to impose some sort of exclusiveness.

Ymichael14 - Just an FYI, Thur & Fri can be difficult date nights for a number of people. Saturdays would likely be the top choice for most people. Not saying you'll have any better success, but just something to consider. Also, someone may want to meet/play but have no interest in attending a fair.

Hornystud- yes. Tried every thursday and friday for a month and for a weekend at a local fair. I thought if someone was attending the fair anyway they might want to meet . Even if just for 5 minutes.
There was no interest.

Ymiichael,

Have you tried posting on Hot Dates?

Fraunhubby- are you referring to the forum,
Successful Swinging/Achieving Single Male Success?
Or is there separate blog on here?
I need all the help I can get and I want to make sure I'm not missing a section.

Yourluvrman- if I could find a woman to join me on a lifestyle cruise , I wouldn't be on here complaining about not being able to get on a lifestyle cruise.
I would be on here telling everyone about the great cruises I took.
I need to get on the cruise to meet a SF who is in the lifestyle so we can take a lifestyle cruise as a couple.
I still haven't figured out how all of you meet so many swingers in one life time. I met one in vanilla dating and after three years on here I met one couple. That is it. I still haven't found a party or meet and greet in my area.
So, odds are, I'm not going to find a date to bring on a lifestyle cruise.

We sort of have SM friends like this, but our interaction with them is largely limited to LS parties unless the SM has an SF that he can bring along. We consider an SM and SF together a couple for all practical purposes, even if they are just casual friends.

We may on rare occasions consider having just an SM we knew very well over the house, but this would be one we interact with regularly at the LS parties we attend and/or hold.

The thing is, if we're looking to play, a LS party will always be our first choice, followed by a couple over the house. Beyond that, it would be rare that we'd have the time to entertain a single of either sex, unless they came with a couple or we invited an extra SM for the women. Again, we get plenty of this sort of play at parties.

We also usually do other things with couples though, like go out to dinner, or play cards, so it can just complicate things a bit to have a +1.

Long term friends is always a positive, I had a couple That was friends with for years, it was great, I am looking For that now.

Frizzo, and others:

SM are very much in demand in the lifestyle. It seems very acceptable and common now for hotwives and MFM relationships to flourish, more so than even just a few years ago.

In the DC area, many house parties allow some SMs in to augment the crowd who want extra cock in their experiences. Singles can accompany couples or ladies in clubs in the same area.

And we've heard but not attended, SM-friendly specific parties for hotwives or cuckold couples who emphatically want the ladies to enjoy physical and emotional relationships with new guys. Front Porch Swingers are helping put on some of these parties.

Frizzo...guys are in demand. You have to find your community. For expert help, please read the "single guy success" blogs on here. We, and most of the sexy cognoscenti responding to your comments here, have weighed in on what and how to make quality connections with couples or ladies who you.

Take heart! Many couples do want your personality...and your big hog in their lives.

Yeah, things have changed, and not for the better for some Single Males. A couple I'd known for many years refused to approve a Certification I wrote for them because they didn't want other couples finding out that they play (or played) with Single Males like myself. I presume they didn't want other couples to stigmatize them, and refuse to party with them.

Ain't that a kick in the head (and the balls)?

Frizzo.. welcome we have long term single guys for over 20 years in Florida and Georgia..try this work on your profile and photos.. you have a great smile, capitalize on your good strengths and personality.. works wonders!

Your profile is your swinging resume and first impressions on SLS means a lot.

Considering the purpose of a Bliss cruise, I doubt they have issues with unwed couples living in sin ;-)

"I haven't seen SM's allowed under any circumstances on lifestyle cruises. Women could make a lot of money and get free cruises by renting themselves to SM's "

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I don't know where you're 'looking', but I've been on well over a dozen LS cruises, and last I looked, I'm single. It's not that difficult to join with playmates. There is no 'matrimony mandate'. Lol. You have a vivid imagination. It's quite entertaining. Lol.

Mayhem- I have only seen two SM's sharing a cabin on non lifestyle cruises.
I haven't seen SM's allowed under any circumstances on lifestyle cruises.
Women could make a lot of money and get free cruises by renting themselves to SM's and pretending to be his wife just so he could get on the ship.
She could double her money by extorting more money from him by threatening to tell them if he doesn't pay more once they are to sea.

When I said a lifestyle cruise that allowed SM's , I still expected them to limit the number of SM's . So, no sausage fest.

"...If this were the case, I'm thinking that someone would be sleeping on a fold out couch bed."

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In instances where I'm the 3rd traveling with a couple, the wife insisted on being sandwiched between hubby and me. It made sense logistically for her as she wanted to have the easiest access between the both of us during the night.

I would say that is exactly what I’m looking for as a SM. It’s really hard to find couples interested in SM or at least getting a response from them. A LTR would be ideal I would think, but sounds like some want a quick hit. I get it m, but the relationship piece would make it way more fun!

Being a single male in and out of this lifestyle going on 13 years, I can honestly say being a steady is a challenge lately- it seems everyone, women and couples too- are in all different directions lately. I've been in steady situations with a couple/female counterpart of a loving couple and it's a special thing- but rarer now. I dunno, maybe it's me- but being a single male here, at least in my area- it's very easy to get lost in the shuffle and there's a lot of Bull$hit (no puns intended) out there. If you can find people that aren't the problem- its an ideal situation.

"However, an extra woman is allowed, although there might be a limit on numbers..."

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True, The LS is made for Hotwives and Unicorns. The only limitation on room and cabin lady partners are the bed capacity in my experience. I've had as many as 3 cabin mates in a cabin that slept 4, and 5 roommates in a suite that slept 6 at the Naughty Nawlins event.

"Not sure if this is something Bliss cruises allow, but if so, a SM willing to pay for half the room..."

Nope. However, an extra woman is allowed, although there might be a limit on numbers (I was asked to go by several couples over the years plus met two on the only cruise I did take).

If you want a lifestyle type of vacation as a single guy, go to Hedo.

Ymichael14 - "I was hoping you had found a lifestyle cruise for SM's."

If there was, it would likely have a ship name like "Sausagefest of the Seas" ;-)

Seriously though and more along the lines of the topic, for couples going on a cruise that do happen to like extra guys, I'm pretty sure I've seen cruises where up to 2 extra people can travel for free if staying in the same room.

Not sure if this is something Bliss cruises allow, but if so, a SM willing to pay for half the room gives a couple some incentive to bring an extra guy along. This would be a win/win for both the couple and the SM.

If this were the case, I'm thinking that someone would be sleeping on a fold out couch bed.

Yourluvrman- Damn. I was hoping you had found a lifestyle cruise for SM's.

"Yourluvrman- do you mean you take Bliss cruises as a SM?"

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No, I couple or triple up on events like Bliss and Naughty Nawlins when couples are required.

Yourluvrman- do you mean you take Bliss cruises as a SM?
Because I thought SM's were not allowed on Bliss.
Just wondering if I was mistaken about Bliss.

"Even with the people we do know, it would be impossible to play with everyone we know at one of our bigger parties (though I try like hell ;-), but at least we get to see and catch up with them."

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Exactly. I try like hell myself Lol. Despite my best efforts, I'll be subjected to the 'side eye' at times from some who I missed connecting with due to timing, etc. and will get a text about that later. lol.

yourluvrman - "...it sure makes keeping in touch with playmates easier.."

Ditto, and we aren't even close to the # of people that yourluvrman knows. At some point, parties/clubs become as much of a social thing as they do play time. Even with the people we do know, it would be impossible to play with everyone we know at one of our bigger parties (though I try like hell ;-), but at least we get to see and catch up with them.