MMF Etiquette

I thought that berberine was useful for ED

Perhaps it’s high in niacin.

[quote=mayhem8]Off topic, but I take 500 mg of Niacin (B-3). I don't and have never had a triglceride problem but my LDL sometimes pushes to the borderline of just over 130 with a total cholesterol of just over 200 at times, which usually grabs a doctors attention.

The niacin keeps me under 200 (usually around 180) and my HDL is higher than the high end of the normal range, which should offset things. Niacin is cheap and over the counter and the only side effect I get from it is occasional flushing, but that is mitigated by taking a baby aspirin 30 mins before the niacin.

If someone decides to try this, go with a slow release and nicotinic acid is specifically what I take.[/quote]I take a B complex vitamin along with butchers broom to clean and strengthen veins, cayenne to clean veins, pumpkin seed oil for my prostate, apple cider vinegar for kidneys and BP and zinc. My wife is a holistic medicine practitioner. No signs of ED even though I am 59

Off topic, but I take 500 mg of Niacin (B-3). I don't and have never had a triglceride problem but my LDL sometimes pushes to the borderline of just over 130 with a total cholesterol of just over 200 at times, which usually grabs a doctors attention.

The niacin keeps me under 200 (usually around 180) and my HDL is higher than the high end of the normal range, which should offset things. Niacin is cheap and over the counter and the only side effect I get from it is occasional flushing, but that is mitigated by taking a baby aspirin 30 mins before the niacin.

If someone decides to try this, go with a slow release and nicotinic acid is specifically what I take.

[quote=Ymichael14]Mayhem- what I had to learn about viagra the hard way was, sometimes it just stops working and never works again.
I only found this out when I asked my doc for something else and he said anything else would have to come from a urologist and it was the urologist who told me it is common for viagra to just stop working.
And yes, every guy with ED should see a urologist.[/quote]Howdy-
Saw your post and wanted to offer something I was told by a urologist recently.
He said that, and mind you, this is only his opinion, a lot of ED cases are caused by constriction of the blood vessels (some of the smallest in the body) of the penis. He offered that, unfortunately, this could also be an indication of a heart problem. Plaque, whatever. As fortune would have it, my heart seems to be ok. Because I'm so active, I have been told several times that I have the heart rate of an athlete (too bad I don't have the physique to match...lol). But I do have a slightly higher cholesterol and triglyceride reading.
Anyway, he suggested two things, one, red yeast rice supplements (which I was already taking along with the other gazillion vitamins I take).
Second was Cayenne Pepper (Capsicum) gels.
I haven't fully researched this but the first thing I pulled up said that, yes, cayenne pepper would help clean up blood circulation.
I have tried most every other solution to the ED available. Including the friggin shots...YIKES!!! I get erect but not sufficient to penetration.
We get by with "devices" and oral manipulation (and we all know how much fun that can be...lol) and there are zero complaints either way.
Still.....ain't nuttin' like actual penetration...(and we all know...yadayada...hahahaha....).
So, today, I broke down and ordered some Cayenne Pepper soft gels from Amazon. The first listing was from a place called Aurilabs. I took the second, branded "MORANDEE". Same basic ingredients, basically same price, just more of 'em.
I figure I've spent a lot of money on the typical potential solutions, what's another $23??!!
If it works, great! And another benefit will perhaps be lowering the triglyceride/cholesterol stuff.
Okee doke, best of luck!
Rich

"...a courtesy "Thank You" note is never a bad idea..."

I've been known to combine "thank you" with a "home safe?" message. Few of our guests are nearby, a two or three hour drive home is not unusual.

And of course when appropriate there's also a "that was so much fun, when can we do this again?" component to the message! ;-)

The post-play confirmation email is usually significant when dealing with newbies in particular. We still remember being new and feeling emotionally more vulnerable during that time. We have long since gotten past that point, but feel this is extra important for those that haven't yet.

Consequently we tend to be highly regarded by our new newbie friends. We do go into these encounters with a goal of becoming FWBs but also realize that is not everyone's goal.

In the Lifestyle, as in life, a courtesy "Thank You" note is never a bad idea. We especially like to say thank you to the couples and single males that we play with if we've had a good time (or REALLY) good time.

Ymichael14 - Beyond the Viagra and Cialis are the shots (bi/tri-mix?). If those don't work, I think implants may be the only remaining option unless another medical reason is found to be the cause.

FWIW - I'm assuming that the MMF (where the guys play and the girl joins) really means MFM (both guys please the girl), but I suppose etiquette would apply to either. In either case, the expected behavior is set by the couple for the +1.

Some may want a FWB sort of relationship and some do not. The ones that do not may be a yellow flag if the reason is that they are not secure enough in their relationship to allow that sort of closeness/bond with another. It could also be a result of an overly clingy SM in their past, but whatever the case, it is worth asking if it isn't spelled out clearly in a couple's profile.

Mayhem- what I had to learn about viagra the hard way was, sometimes it just stops working and never works again.
I only found this out when I asked my doc for something else and he said anything else would have to come from a urologist and it was the urologist who told me it is common for viagra to just stop working.
And yes, every guy with ED should see a urologist.

For me it depends on how the threesome happened. Some give me the " just fuck her and get out and don't talk to us again" vibe.
So I do not thank them. I assume they would block me if I contacted them.
Others are more like dating. They want to meet me first or chat and get to know me. That type I will thank.

It’s only proper to send a message back and give a performance review. Lol

Its what people who get it do always.. those that dont speaks volumes!

Ours and like us always send messages to each to be sure they arrived home ok and thanking them for our play.. they too also reciprocate.

Guess we are just old school and enjoy great couples, singles and life swinging!

I agree. Any time that I’ve met with a couple or SF, whether I desired a second “date” or not, I’ve sent a thank you follow-up email or text. That said, I think that based on how “spontaneous” the OP’s interaction was, and what type of communication took place on the front end and/or what expectations for communication were set, influence potential follow-up/engagement.

Not justifying a lack of follow-up. Just playing devil’s advocate.

BT

Any time I meet a couple for MMF play I always send them a thank you note letting know I got back home safe and enjoyed our time together!

Eh. I consider it a public service to tell someone I like enough to fuck again after an initial miss that nearly every guy in the lifestyle should talk to his doctor about ED meds even if he's never previously had an issue.

Also, to stay on topic: I generally send a thank you almost immediately. But the best guys do it first.

They think it’s about them. After the age of 40, 70% of men experience vascular leakage from the smaller vessels.

Most men that say something during a dr visit, are prescribed a low dose of cialis which preserves the vessel’s integrity and postpones leakage.

But hey, you only have to do a little reading and who wants to fuck someone who knows less about a dick than you do?

It’s unfair to the other person to have to put up with someone’s lack of proactive behavior.

I have a partner who was exceptional off it, but he is considerate enough to guarantee a good time. He got it and the last time he paid a visit he killed the cat. The man broke me.

[quote=Onehorneywife]We usually hear back from the good ones. Those that can't get or stay hard seem to drop off and never hear from them again[/quote]We have one like that who stays in touch, even though he's 3 for 3 in the "not getting and staying hard" camp. Viagra is so cheap these days, so guys that fall into this category should at least give it a try. It could be a game changer for them.

[quote=Onehorneywife]We usually hear back from the good ones. Those that can't get or stay hard seem to drop off and never hear from them again[/quote]That’s for the best.

We usually hear back from the good ones. Those that can't get or stay hard seem to drop off and never hear from them again

I always do a follow up message/text thanking my hosts. And we keep in touch to see I’d another get together is in the cards !

[quote=mayhem8]We have not yet experienced this, but as much as we play, the MFM at home is a relatively new thing for us.[/quote]Seems rude

We have not yet experienced this, but as much as we play, the MFM at home is a relatively new thing for us.

[quote=bfwp4u]After a semi-spontaneous MMF where the other male literally seduces her, is it unusual for her to not hear back from him? (Just a simple "thanks, had a nice time" kind of text)[/quote]It happens more than you could imagine. Mostly with younger guys.

After a semi-spontaneous MMF where the other male literally seduces her, is it unusual for her to not hear back from him? (Just a simple "thanks, had a nice time" kind of text)