Any real guys in here?

Phoenix, AZ, Us

Yes, yes you are. It's part of your charm and almost makes up for the puppet.

"...whenever I meet people from this site in person, I use it as an opportunity to convert them."

So, the Typhoid Mary of the lifestyle? Except with Christian Jesus Commandos?

I just want to be clear about the dangers of associating with you.

Fresno, CA, Us

I prefer "Snitches get snatches" myself. But I'm weird.

ionsawmillVeteran
Spanish Fort, AL, Us

“ What happens in the forums, stays in the forums.”

Snitches get stitches.

DBCooperMNVeteran
Prior Lake, MN, Us

DEEJAYSWINGERS knows best.

I belong to such a group, and whenever I meet people from this site in person, I use it as an opportunity to convert them.

But please don't tell anyone, as I don't want my game ruined.

What happens in the forums, stays in the forums.

ionsawmillVeteran
Spanish Fort, AL, Us

CGinVA you make a good point. These flakes don't have to spend even a quarter on a stamp. It's instant gratification and mostly free.

CGinVAMember
Hagerstown, MD, Us

Goodgollymsmolly98226, has in my opinion, brought up the heart of the matter. The internet and instant gratification have worsened this problem. I, the male half, have been swinging for 30 years. Back then you went to an adult bookstore bought a magazine with personal ads in it and wrote letters. If you heard back from anyone that was interested in might be a week. There seemed to be much less no showing. I'm convinced the time it took made those folks not start the process.
In this day and age people can act on these fantasies in sort time before they realize they are not really going to go through with it.

Parkville, MD, Usa

Just getting caught up on this thread ... OMG!!!

That "platoon of Christian Jesus Commandos" made me spit out my oatmeal back into the bowl.

It might be more than a platoon ... might be company sized ... a Band of Jesus Brothers you could say.

ionsawmillVeteran
Spanish Fort, AL, Us

I've had one guy flake out on me, and it wasn't for religious reasons. He told me he and his wife only lived together so she could keep his insurance, and that she knew he was bi. Also, she was basically an invalid. But when it came time to meet, he backed out. Later I saw pictures of him and his wife on vacation with their RV, kayaking and riding bikes. He just chickened out because he was a liar and was cheating on his wife.

Phoenix, AZ, Us

Justin Lehmiller is a post doc fellow at the Kinsey Institute and publishes a lot about sexual fantasies. No conspiracy theories, unfortunately, but he's pretty solid on his research otherwise. A recent article looked at 822 people in monogamous relationships. About a third of them fantasized about being in sexually open relationships and most of those folks would like to act on their fantasies.

In sex research, it's common for people to fantasize about things they have no interest in actually doing, but that's not true here. Extrapolating out to a much larger group size than 822, even if it's less than a third interested, that's a lot of people fantasizing about fucking folks they're not partnered with (with the approval of their actual partners). No surprise then that there is a significant number of fakes and flakes on swinger sites, because that's a safe way to breathe some life into your fantasy.

Fresno, CA, Us

Thanks for the compliments, folks. bows extravagantly

Now those rumors about me being a member of the Bilderbergers? Lies. Lies, I say.

RonKathyVeteran
Woodstock, GA, Us

OMG gee thanks guys just spit out my drink!

What the heck..... I must have made a wrong turn after talking with our great SLS guy talking about Thanksgiving and the upcoming Holidays with his dancing shoes!

Fort Payne, AL, Us

"...a religious group has penetrated all of the adult sites and even these forums and some of you can argue that it is all conspiracy theory and wannabes..."

Pretty sure that your "religious group" is the conspiracy theory. ;-)

Spencerport, NY, Us

Wow... thought it was a bad joke, but sounds like they are serious.

BTW, Sorillo, that was fuckin hilarious.

Las Vegas, NV, Us

I’m gonna guess that more than half of the single men on here are not single. Probably about 75%. These guys are gung ho to chat, trade pics and dirty talk with my female half, but when it comes time to meet the whole dynamic changes. Sorry, all of the sudden I have to work weekends, can you meet Wednesday around noon? If you find a single guy with 15-20 certs, he’s the one you want to take seriously. The ones that can only chat between 9 and 5 and can only play during their lunch hour are probably not the best option.

Pearland, TX, Us

Ok well it looks like we will have to agree to disagree on all of this. I will stand pat on my belief that a religious group has penetrated all of the adult sites and even these forums and some of you can argue that it is all conspiracy theory and wannabes. I’ve been at this a while as well and I can assuredly tell you that something here isn’t quite right.

Fort Payne, AL, Us

Most of us have been around long enough to know that wannabees are a more likely explanation than any sort of conspiracy. ;-)

Pearland, TX, Us

Judging by some of the silly explanations that have been presented I say that I may have struck a nerve!

Madeira Beach, FL, Us

What we have experienced is multiple men reaching out to us. We have not reached out to them. When we do select one to "see if it works out", they seem to fade away. They looked at our photos and liked what they saw or they would not have contacted us. They always seem very complimentary at first. We didn't say or do anything that would have caused them to disappear, but they do right when it comes time to meet or show up. We have had a few connections, but way more were not.

San Luis Obispo, CA, Us

Yup. A lot of guys think they're swingers until it comes time to get serious.

They're really just engaging in masturbation conversation.

Fort Payne, AL, Us

"...a large portion of people on any swinger/kink site are wannabes. They won't ever meet anyone, but the fantasy is enough and by not doing a very good job of screening, their needs are being satisfied while yours are not."

It's kind of amazing how you get inside my head and put my scattered thoughts into words!

Sorillo's scenarios are all very possible as well - especially the third one. ;-)

Phoenix, AZ, Us

It's clearly the commandos. Couldn't possibly be anything else.

"...it isn't random but regular and constant among all of these types of sites. There is definitely an organized group at play here leading people to dead end results. My guess is that it is a religious group, who else could it be? This has happened to us more than a couple dozen times over the past year on multiple sites."

You know what the other possible common denominator is? You. You and whatever flawed screening system you use. Do you only contact people with certs? Do you exchange one or two messages and then ask to meet for coffee?

There are a host of things you can do in order to stop repeating this pattern over and over. Because it's not a religious group. It's not an organized movement at all. Instead, a large portion of people on any swinger/kink site are wannabes. They won't ever meet anyone, but the fantasy is enough and by not doing a very good job of screening, their needs are being satisfied while yours are not.

Fresno, CA, Us

The Illuminati is an obvious falsehood. No such animal.

On the other hand, the Trilateral Commission is focused like a laser on preventing you from getting laid.

San Luis Obispo, CA, Us

It's obviously a conspiracy like everything else these days.

I suspect the Illuminati are trying to shut down the lifestyle altogether.

Fresno, CA, Us

What are the more likely scenarios?

Younger single guy buys a membership, sets up a meet with a couple but then chickens out at the last minute because he's nervous about having an erection in front of another nude guy?

Married guy buys a membership, sets up a meet with a couple but then chickens out at the last minute because he realizes that he might get caught cheating on his spouse?

A platoon of Christian Jesus Commandos running a recon operation to gather intelligence on a few of those icky swingers who live in their small Texas town.