Episode 99: Harnessing That New Relationship Energy

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This podcast contains explicit language and content and is for mature audiences only. Hey you teenagers out there, if you're under 18, this show is more for your parents. So now that you have that mental picture stuck in your head, put some music on and get back to doing your homework. We are a long-time married couple who's decided to chronicle our personal adventures and share our sex-positive discussions as we navigate our way through the swinging lifestyle. Care to join us?

hello everyone i'm mr jones and i'm mrs jones and we want to welcome you to episode 99 of the we got a thing podcast harnessing that new relationship energy yeah 99 i know we're almost there i know we're like the slowest podcast ever i know everybody else got to 100 time ago. I know. We think it's a big freaking deal, but it took, what, eight, eight, almost eight years. We've been plodding along, yeah, once a month for eight years. It's longevity and consistency that matters. That's right. We're in it for the long haul, clearly. That's right, right. Yes, new relationship energy.

Yeah, that's been a topic in a big way in our community lately and in our lives too. Yeah. As we have a lot of new newbies in the lifestyle and it seems to strike the newbies harder than some of us more experienced. Well, right, because it's the first time you're feeling it you know yeah now we we kind of know what we're feeling yeah don't always know what to do with it yeah but at least we recognize it now it's like hold your horses i know what this is i'm not in middle school anymore all right well i'm not in middle school anymore well i i go there frequently. Yes, you do.

But not in a dramatic way. Just more in a pre-adolescent boy way. Yeah, very typical boy way. Yeah, but I think all guys are like that. Right. That's what I used to tell my female students when they would be rolling their eyes at dumb shit that boys would say in class.

And I'm like know what honey like mr jones is like 50 something years old and he he's that way too it just doesn't get better you just need to learn to deal with it yeah the only difference is i have a full facial hair now and my my tennis shoes don't stink as much as they used to smell bad yeah uh i used to share a room with my brother. And, whew, man, when you walked in that room. Yeah. Oh, boy. All right. Let's get on with it. A few announcements first. So we have a brand new, a brand new, brand new card game.

So last winter, right before Christmas, we announced that we had released uh what's your thing card game and that's mostly just um conversation conversation yeah conversation starters icebreakers and such yes and this game is a little bit more advanced now we're asking you if you want to care to join us yes this one's called care to join us um and and these are the action cards so if you go to our website you'll find you can you can get either deck or both decks now on our website we're excited about that the the first one seemed to be going over well and i think people are now ready to graduate to the touching since that is really what this is all about that's right yeah so please visit our website and look for those we got a lot going on um this weekend actually speak we've been getting sexy pictures all day from columbus ohio yeah so our midwest um group put on um an event this weekend in columbus ohio and there's a bunch of people out there having a good time i think they're headed to a club about right now they are and then next weekend we have another group that's meeting in providence rhode island and they're doing the same thing they're they're going to go to a club on saturday night after they spend the weekend together and then the the bigger news now is that we are going to host our own event in n at the end of September.

Yeah, going back to Nashville. Yeah, we were there pre-COVID. Yeah, so it was three years ago. Yes. It was September 2019. Yes, and it was beautiful in September in Nashville. So we're going to be filling that from within our community. so if you're interested in meeting us in Nashville in late September of, what year is this? 2022? Yep. Yeah, then hit our website up and join our community or send me an email and I'd be glad to give you more information. That will definitely sell out. Yep. But next week. Right. We are headed to Mexico.

Yeah our this is our first trip to desire this year yeah we haven't been yet yeah so this is our mansion takeover trip but we're going a few days early uh and the excuse that we're using is to you know get everything ready yeah we're just gonna go and have a little mini vacation before the fun fun mansion takeover yeah this is our second annual mansion takeover so we feel a little bit more at ease this year because we've done this before and and desire has assured us that they're ready for us yep so we're taking eight couples and we're staying on the mansion complex and we're looking forward to that definitely got some fun surprises in store for our sexy friends don't don't say anything oh well i'm just teasing it up okay and then uh even bigger news is that we are going to hold a group event next year we're going to do our regular desire trips in august for the mansion and in november to pearl but we're going to go to temptations grand me chase in dominican republic and that's opening the grand opening is october october of this year right yeah we're going to do a little uh check it out recon trip in uh the spring of 2023 yeah we're gonna two of us yeah we're gonna sneak out there and check it out in april but then probably in june or july of 2023 and we'll be announcing those dates soon but it's it's going to be june or july 2023 because we have a lot of teachers that have complained that they can't go in november yeah or a lot of parents with kids that need to be able to go to camp yeah send the Thank you.

2023. Um, because we have a lot of teachers that have complained that they can't go in November. Yeah. Or a lot of parents with kids that need to be able to go to camp, send the kids to camp or send them to a grandma's house or aunt and uncle's house or, or whatever to, to get away.

So we're going to try to give those folks an opportunity to, to get out and have some fun and temptation Grand Meeches, if you haven't heard it yet um it is the desire equivalent of another desire resort um they're they're calling it temptation grand mechase because it's adjacent to a temptation resort right um but it has the same like model of a of a desire resort. So, and it's also going to help because our other two weeks sell out. And so this will give those of you who get bumped out of November, um, a chance to go with us next summer. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's a fun time. That's for sure.

Someone has promised me she's not going to work as much next year yeah right right i'm trying i mean you're half of this duo here i'm trying i can't travel without you but we're starting to uh look forward towards our retirement and then figuring out where we want to live oh my gosh retirement and um that train's starting to roll down the tracks i looked at so so many spreadsheets tonight. I just asked you one simple question. I just wanted to look at one column on a spreadsheet. And then the next thing I know, you're an hour into showing me these columns after columns and rows and formulas.

And I'm about to pass out. Did you learn something? Finally. Yeah. Yeah, I learned. Yeah. I learned when I can stop working.

Well, and i've learned that i've got to keep working for a little while yeah we're getting there yep so keeping up with the joneses um so i'm feeling great thank you for those who keep following up i'm um healthy recovered from my surgery i do have a follow-up appointment next week with my doctor yep and uh things are starting to get back to normal so we're putting that more and more in our rearview mirror yeah that's for sure thank goodness yep we did have a nice fun trip to las vegas it was a good trip and that was at the end of june yeah good weather good people yeah yeah fun hotel yeah we stayed at the virgin hotel and well most of us did um and then we we went to see that magic mic show yeah that was like a pre-event event that popped up yeah it was just one of those things for people coming into town early so we went to go see magic mike on a thursday night and there were what maybe like 30 of us there it was so funny yeah we had we had great seats too we were right in the front row we were right around the stage these dudes with no shirts on kept jumping over top of me all night to get up on the stage yeah they were pretty good looking yeah and at the end of the show there was um of course our group was all sitting together and then there were these three young bachelorette girls sitting at a table just adjacent to us and at the end of the show the couple that was in our group um she stood up at the at the stage and was um talking with the guy yeah one of the dancers and just infatuated with him and smiling and he was flirting with her and her husband was sitting at the table just smiling just watching her with this guy and these three girls leaned forward and then said is that your wife and he said yeah and they said you're such a good husband to let her to let her to let Let her get up and flirt with that guy.

We said, yeah, if you only knew. Oh, can I take a minute and talk about the guy with the man bun? Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

You know how when you see a show like that, there's always like that one dancer or actor or whatever that just kind of catches your eye well this guy he was just a beautiful specimen of a human he had a man bun and he was just really sexy just and he didn't appear to take himself too seriously you know he had a he seemed like he had a good personality was very interactive with people and i totally had a crush on him and then he drops out of the ceiling the ceiling lowers and he's playing a drum set of course with no shirt on that oiled chest and yeah he's playing a drum set in it with his man bun and i'm like oh my god like it was absolute perfection yeah yeah he definitely had captured everyone's attention even the guys even the guys i was like wow that's pretty cool drop from the ceiling no shirt on i know playing the drums and he was really playing the drums yeah i know because you can't fake that true uh yeah that was a really fun show yeah and the first official thing we did i guess friday we um we we went to a pool party at the virgin yeah that was something yeah that pool there is huge several pools it was like they're adults only 21 and over like yeah dj hosted right pool right you had to go through a metal detector and uh okay that was stupid body cavity searches stupid i mean you said you know that you've worked for the federal government for you like your whole career and you've been in a lot of different government buildings in washington dc and you said you've never been frisked like that before this is know.

I don't know. I guess maybe they had some violence out there. It just took us forever. No, I think it was drugs. I think they were looking for drugs. Okay. Yeah. I mean, they were pretty close to body cavity searches. They wouldn't even let you bring like a bottle of water in. I mean, I felt like I was going to have to like lay down on the table and put my feet in stirrups to like prove to them I didn't have cocaine in my vagina. Anyway, once we got in, we didn't want to leave because we don't have to go through that again.

But anyway, they had a DJ there and and some some folks in our group had reserved some cabanas and it was a it was a party. It was. I mean, yes, it was 115 degrees, but the pool was chilled. Yeah. You just had to make sure you had flip-flops on when you walked across the concrete. Yeah. You'd get about three steps in, and you'd have blisters. But it was a great time. It was fun. And somebody may have been a little over-served. Oh, my gosh. Well, can I say, before you tell everybody that I got drunk and passed out, can we talk about some special friends that ended up coming?

Yes, we need to mention them anyway. So, Jay and Kay from that couple next door, they came down for the event. Right. And we had not seen them since they moved from Virginia over to the West Coast. Right. And it was just so wonderful to catch up with them. Wonderful. You were making out with him all afternoon in the cabana. Well, we haven't seen each other for a long time. Yeah. You know, and we only were going to see each other for like, you know, a couple days. So, yeah. Yeah, you were making up for lost time. Well, wouldn't, I mean.

Well, Kay and I caught up with each other on the dance floor the next night. Yes, you guys did. Yeah about so fun we'll talk about that in a minute yeah so oh and speaking of jay and kay and that couple next door um they are officially taking a break from their podcast they're pulling it down and um if you subscribe to their podcast they he did like if they did like a 15 minute uh show announcing why And he's just got a lot going on with work. He's going to be traveling a lot. And logistically, they're not going to be together to podcast a lot.

And they have a kid going off to school and a lot of other things going on. So they're doing the wise thing for their family and pulling their podcast down for a while. But I suspect they'll be back in the future. Yeah. I don't think they're leaving the lifestyle. Oh, no. I didn't say that. Right. So maybe I'll be able to catch up with him again. And I could keep you all up to date by catching up with him. So now I have even more reasons. Yeah. Yes. Definitely.

Not that I need i need a reason yeah so anyway this this party at the um at the virgin hotel it was we we both drank a lot oh well everybody was it and it was hot we were having a good time well that friday that same night we were going to playhouse lv because we had taken over their club and we i had arranged the club and i had arranged the transportation and this was all we were responsible for the whole weekend this is all i had to do the only one job speaking of k i have one job and so i took care of the club that was all done and we had two two shuttle buses come into the Virgin to pick up the group at 8.30.

So we left the pool party like at 4 or 5, 5 o'clock. If you say so. I don't remember. I think it was 5. No, it was between 4 and 5 because it started at 11 a.m. Somebody us we went back to our room at five oh at five okay so we said well you had been over served and i was hot and sweaty and tired i said let's just lay down for a little while and take a nap we'll get up we'll take a shower go grab dinner and then come back and meet the shuttle at 8 30 so we laid down. And the next thing I know, you're, you're pushing me, you're shoving me going, it's 822. It's 822. And I said, what?

And you know how it is when you first wake up, I was in a fog. I'm like, 822. So what? You know, I don't understand.

I think it was 823 at that point, because I got up and literally ran around in circles for like a whole minute before i realized that i probably should wake you up too so yeah i think i woke you up at 8 23 yeah so there's gonna so first thing i think of is there's gonna be 120 people downstairs and i'm the one who was telling them to be on time and it's 8 22 and so i just i threw my clothes on put my shoes on grabbed everything and i said i'm gonna run downstairs and i'm gonna i'll get the first bus gone because i thought that the first bus was gonna leave and then circle back around and pick us up again so i said you take your time and we'll catch the second bus i just got to get down there sure everybody gets on the bus.

Right, because we had like wristbands and I had to get like the list of people and I needed to get like our alcohol for that night and like forget showering. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So we get down there and there's this big shuttle bus and it holds like 60 people or something like that. And everybody's there like they're supposed to be. And I come running in right at 830 and get the driver and get everybody on the bus and got that bus filled. And I said, okay, you all go ahead and leave, and we'll take the next bus.

And then about that time, my phone rings, and it's the bus driver for bus number two. And he said, I'm pulling in right now.

Where do I park where do i park and i said oh crap bus number two is already here so i texted you and you didn't answer and then i tried to call you and you didn't answer and in the meantime the rest of the people are getting on the bus and the poor valet guy he's yelling get this bus out of here because it was clogging up all the traffic and i was like don't let that bus leave but don't you stay right here and so i ran upstairs to get you because you weren't answering your phone got you and i said the bus is here that you're the last one we've got to go right now and so you grabbed your stuff and ran down behind me And the poor bus driver he's the valet's yelling at him to get out of the way and i'm saying don't go and everybody's laughing at us crazy so anyway we made it onto the second bus so yeah so to get ready to go to a lifestyle club i brushed my teeth and put fresh deodorant on that was all i was able to do yeah oh my gosh we had one job and we almost screwed the whole thing up yeah but it worked everybody got there and the club was a lot of fun yeah it was fun so thank you um thank you Dave and Nicole at Playhouse LV for being such great hosts and for allowing our group to take your um club over for an evening it was a lot of fun.

So after we left the club, what did we do? Do you remember? We came back to the hotel. And we ate like hamburgers. Oh, yeah. We ran to some friends in the cafeteria. It looked like a cafeteria. It was a restaurant. Yeah. So we ate dinner at like 2 o'clock in the morning. Yeah, because we didn't eat in the afternoon. No. And I didn't really eat at the club. So we ate breakfast. And then I didn't really eat lunch at that beach party thing. And then we slept through dinner. Right. And we had been drinking all day. I had one drink at the club. And I think I drank most of it.

And then I think you said, do you want another drink? And I said, yes yes and as soon as i walked over to the bar i was like no and then i just drank water all night and i don't think i was still drunk at that point but i was just so like i was shaky my blood sugar was low yeah like i was hungry yeah so yeah that was so stupid. Hamburgers at 2 a.m. Stupid, yeah. I know. You'd think we would learn, but no. I know. Anyway, so that was just day one. That was just Friday. So Saturday, we went to the pool again. And then... That was the only time I was drunk that weekend. Yeah.

Let me just say that. That's true. So we went to the pool again on Saturday afternoon. Then we went to... Some good friends of ours were there. So the four of us went to a speakeasy called the laundry room, uh, on Fremont street and had a blast there. It was legit. It was a legit secret entrance and you had to speakeasy when you were there. That's right. And we got in trouble for raising our voices. Yeah, we had the nerve to laugh. Yeah. And bartender was kind of an ass. But I think he was supposed to be. He was playing a role. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

Because I said, what kind of bourbon are you going to use? And he said, I'm going to use rye. I said, okay. What kind of rye? I'm going to use the rye I have behind the bar. I said, okay, I see how this is working. You just go make my drink. And he was speaking easy because, you know, you don't want anyone to listen in. Somebody might bust us knowing that we're drinking alcohol in there. That's right. But it was a lot of fun. But the drinks were fantastic, weren't they? Yeah.

He was really talented because he said, just tell me what kind of flavors you enjoy well they had a menu they had an extensive menu but then he also they on the back of the menu there was a list of like flavor notes and they were probably i would say close to a hundred different flavor notes to choose from yeah so he asked for maybe, what, a half a dozen to 10 flavor notes, and he just took mental note of it, and then he would create a cocktail. Yeah. It was pretty fascinating. Yeah, it was good. We had a great time there.

And then our group had taken over a club across the street called Disco Pussy. And so it was just our people in a club and there was a DJ there. And that's where I caught up with Kay. Yes. Because Kay and I were on the dance floor and she and I had never danced together before. And anyway, those of you who have listened to us for a long, long time know that Kay bought me a T-shirt. It's one of my prized possessions. And there's a picture of me wearing it on our Cassidy profile. But it says, Mr. Jones can fuck. Mr. Jones knows how to fuck. I'm sorry. Yeah. Mr. Jones knows how to fuck.

And it has our We Got a Thing logo on it. So I keep it pressed and hanging in my closet for only special occasions. I wash it inside out, it air dries. Yeah, all of that stuff. And so, and when she gave that to me, gosh, it was a long time ago. You know, I'm like, this is like, I can die now. Because when a guy gets a gift like this, that's the highest compliment you can get.

get so anyway after we danced our asses off that night she said mr jones you can dance and i said that sounds like another t-shirt and she says you're right i'm gonna get you another t-shirt so um k you owe me still i'm waiting for my mr jones can dance and it'll it'll be put in a prominent place right behind because it's not quite as important as the first one but it was still a lot of fun she and i had a lot of fun dancing together yeah that was a good time yeah so that that club was a um a lot of fun um and then we went over to some friend's house after that and had a blast with some close friends so it it was a great weekend it sure was A lot of fun.

Yep.

The only other thing that we did was we thought we were going to be hosting a six people in our house and it turned out to be about 24 well we had some friends coming in from out of town and you know they're like is anything going on in the dc crew on this weekend and you and i didn't have any plans so we were like, we're going to be around so they decided to you know go ahead and come down and not many people are svp'd so it was only going to be me you know like maybe like four to six couples and we're like well if it's only going to be that many people we should just have everybody over to our house yeah so of course we forget that in the lifestyle you know people's calendars change and and people rsvp at the last minute well and soon as we said we're gonna host then all of a sudden the the number went from it tripled yeah so we had a house full of people but it was fun yeah so instead of like grilling out we all went out to dinner and luckily we have a restaurant near us that's um flexible yeah it can accommodate a lot of people and that food is actually really good so so it worked out perfectly yeah so this is the dc crew that's in our uh we gotta think community and our dc crew is the crew to beat i'm telling you we have we got stuff going on we do have almost every yeah i mean i was just out to dinner on tuesday night people were in town that's right and i was in st louis yeah having dinner with lifestyle friends there i know that was so funny like i took a picture just a couple blocks away from our house at a restaurant with it was me and 12 of my closest friends we were all hanging out together which was super fun and then you sent a picture but there were only nine of you there were 13 of us i know ha ha yeah right but not bad for a tuesday night huh no not bad at all yeah so we've been keeping but but wait wait what so like when we had everybody over you forgot to say the most oh yeah we christened our hot tub.

Yes. And I know this because the next morning, about a third of the water was gone. That's how I know we had a record number of people in it from the displacement. Yeah, because some of our friends, we have two guest rooms. So a couple of the couples spent the night with us. And the next morning, we went to go have coffee in the hot tub. And Mr. Jones was like, hang on a second. You had to stick the hose in it.

Yeah was fun it was a fun weekend so that's what's going on with the joneses and what's coming up um soon so we'll chat with you guys hopefully we'll have a good story or two when we get back from the mansion i hope so so well how could we not i know yeah i don't want to jinx us but we are going to have a good time well when we come back we're going to talk about harnessing that new relationship energy welcome back to segment two we're going to talk about that new relationship energy or nre if you want to be cool nre if you're one of the cool kids um so i guess before we start we need to do some defining okay some common terminology here so i have two sources and this is unusual for me usually i just talk off the top of my head i'm going to give you a couple of sources trying to be legit tonight it's a little legit and there's nothing more legit than wikipedia that's true I don't know.

my head i'm going to give you a couple of sources trying to be legit tonight it's a little legit and there's nothing more legit than wikipedia that's true uh new relationship energy or nre refers to a state of mind experience at the beginning of sexual and romantic relationships typically involving heightened emotional and sexual feelings and excitement i I'd say that's pretty accurate. That is accurate. But I found a better one. All right. And this one is probably more appropriate to what we're going to talk about tonight. And this is from Psychology Today.

And it's a little bit longer, but it's written in language that even I can understand. Polyamorous people describe the glowing, exciting, bubbly feeling of being enraptured with a new partner as new relationship energy. Monogamists can experience this effervescent glee as well, usually when they have just begun to date someone about whom they are quite excited. Closely akin to the feeling of falling in love, NRE happens when people are fascinated with each other, but not yet aware of the negative aspects of their new crush.

In the grips of NRE, everything the new hottie says is captivating, it is not yet clear say that they have terrible politics or leave their dirty clothes all over the living room yeah sometimes uh reality sucks that's right but you know you can kick the can of reality down the road when you're first getting to know somebody that's good kick the can of reality down the road when you're first getting to know somebody. That's good. Kick the can of reality down the road. You always look at me like, oh my God, she just said something intelligent. Yeah, I like that. I want to write that down.

So we have Wikipedia, we have Psychology Today, and we have Mrs. Jones. There you go. What more could you need? Kicking that can of reality on down the road. I like that. We should just change the title of the podcast. Kick the can of reality down the road. Right on down the road. All right. Anyway, that's probably more, that's closer to what we're talking about. It's an infatuation with somebody or a couple.

But you really haven't gotten through that infatuation stage to know that they're normal people and they have normal hang-ups and problems, just like your current partner or former partner or whoever. So the grass is not always greener. greener right right so we want to talk about this because a lot of us get caught up in nre and in the lifestyle it can be confusing it can be exciting and it can be a little bit scary yeah and it it can be if you don't recognize it for what it is, it can really get in the way of your primary relationship. Yeah, that's why I think I like this thing.

It's closely akin to the feeling of falling in love. So they're saying that it's a little bit different. It's just an infatuation, and it's new energy. Energy is what it is.

And it's very similar to the energy that we felt when you and i first met or when a couple first meets as well oh yeah yeah um so nre we want to talk about nre there's a couple of different ways we experience this in the lifestyle first of all it's nre between you and your partner and you know this occurs like when like you had mentioned earlier when we were talking about this about even before you are in the lifestyle we're talking about it right right when you first get up the nerve to talk to your partner about it and you realize that the world's not going to blow up and that they find it intriguing too and just you know to be given that permission to talk about it it's so titillating and exciting and it just makes We'll be right back.

they find it intriguing too and just you know to be given that permission to talk about it it's so titillating and exciting and it just makes the connection between you and your partner so much more intense because you're in you're in new territory right yeah so these emotions that like you and i had experienced or a couple experiences early on in their relationship all of a sudden come back like you used um uh thrilling and exciting but you know it's sexy it's over it can be a little overwhelming at times too but um you know there there's all these emotions resurface with when you just start talking about this and then um i think that you and i talked about this a lot it was like learning something new about your the partner that you've been with for a long time.

Yeah. You know, and it like deepens the affections that you have for each other. Because, I mean, we were 29 years in when we tried this. And I was, I think we were learning new things about each other. And that was really kind of cool. Yeah. Because you think you know everything, but. Right. Well, and learning new things about ourselves, too. I mean, I think that's all part of it, you know, as well. So it's seeing your partner from like a different viewpoint, I think. Yes. You know, that creates new energy. Yeah, the unexpected viewpoint.

Because I think maybe to a certain degree and you i'm not speaking for you because you claim you didn't have fantasies but you know there was always like as a guy there's fantasies running through my head and i went and i was like oh i would never share these with you these are like my private thoughts and not not because they were with a particular person it was just a sex act or you know something that i that didn't to me fit in the type of sexual relationship that we had so it was like this outside thing but then all of a sudden we're able to talk about things like that and so the excitement of bringing all that together you know just kind of rekindles this energy in you as a couple.

Yeah.

And then also socially um you know that now you have the freedom to you know to look at other people talk about being attracted to other people we would go to the beach or we'd go to a restaurant and play a game you know yeah who are you who you're attracted to in here yeah well and you're allowed to like flirt again too exactly which is weird right well you have when you've been in a long-term relationship that's really weird yeah especially to flirt in front of your partner yeah flirt with somebody else in front of your partner yeah right and that so that even just made it even more a little bit um you know the thrill it's tab's taboo.

Yes, it's taboo. Yeah, we're not supposed to be doing this. We're supposed to, you're supposed to, you know, get angry with me when I look at another woman or whatever. Yeah. That's what society had taught us. And now all of a sudden, and we had noticed, and I think what had happened during that time is that people notice you, like your kids or your family, and they're like, what's up with you two? Why are you dressing up all the time? Why are you going out all of a sudden together? Why are you acting like honeymooners again?

You've been married for X number of years, and people start to notice that, you know, that you guys are doing, going out together and dressing up in sexy ways. And I think you're becoming, I think you're becoming more attractive to others at that time because, you know, we're full of energy, we're going out, we're having a good time together. And therefore, that makes you more attractive to other people. So I used to have a coworker that used to say that he did the marriage walk. And I was like, you know, what's the marriage walk?

And he said, well, you know, you just walk with your head down, you know, and you never make eye contact with anybody. And you have the big M. Yeah. Tattooed on have the big M tattooed on your forehead for married. And I kind of thought it was funny at the time. But now when I think back, I'm like, you're completely closing yourself off from other people.

There's a wide division between not even be able to make eye contact with somebody else and and having sex with somebody else yeah right yeah you know and and where that line falls i think shifts as you are starting to think about how you would fit into the whole idea of ethical non-monogamy right yeah so at this point in time when it's just the two of you Thank you.

fit into the whole idea of ethical non-monogamy right yeah so at this point in time when it's just the two of you nre is not a big deal it's a good thing yeah because you feel like oh my gosh we're having sex every night yeah and and you know where you're just your whole sexual energy is back and you're doing new things and no complaints however then you meet another couple when you're in the lifestyle and this happens it's a completely different right um situation this is where you have to learn to manage it yes you know when it's just the two of you you can just go all right yeah you don't have anything to worry about right yeah so when you're with others though there's there's i think there's four different phases we're going to talk about it's like you said it's processing this it's understanding what it is and then it's understanding that you know having having a realistic perspective of what this is and not kicking the can of reality down the road okay and then responding to that so and then and these four phases you know can happen uh it could take a long time yeah for this to happen if you don't understand what's happening to you and we see this a lot and we've experienced it a little bit, but we see it a lot, especially in folks that are new.

And so processing this, and I already mentioned that at the outset, it was, it's just like being back in middle school. You know, there's another girl that likes me. Yeah. You know, and oh my gosh, she likes me. She thinks I'm cute. Okay, Rudolph. Yeah, she's, I'm cute. I'm cute. She thinks I'm cute. You know, and I'm going, okay, what's going on here? I'm like, I've got butterflies in my stomach.

And, you know, this attractive woman is, you know, is attracted to me and you know that that whole processing that is um what is going on i don't expect to be at this point right and in my life at this point in time right and so we and and it's like am i even allowed to talk to you about this i remember thinking that i remember thinking it not that you would get mad at me, but that I would say something that would hurt you. Right. You know, it was just really hard to get up the nerve to talk about it.

But like when you're brand new and you're experiencing attraction from somebody else and you're attractive to somebody else, it kind consumes you yes yes it's really hard to like focus on everyday tasks right because you can't stop thinking about it right and so here you are in your in your normal relationship with your partner and you're going about your life like normal and you're taking the kids to school and yeah cooking dinner and going to work but in the back stuff does not hit pause no but in the back of your mind all you can think about is this couple yeah or this this other man or this other woman and they consume your thoughts and it can be scary slash overwhelming um and i think it's something that we all kind of experience yeah and like you know when you get a text from them your heart starts racing like oh my gosh what you know what are they saying did they send a picture yeah you know it's ridiculous yeah exactly but it's what we all go through yeah exactly exactly so there's processing that's Step number one number two is okay and this is really what's hard to do i think is stop and say okay what's really going on here and i think that's where a lot of people never either don't get to that phase or this is when they kick the can down the road it's like i need to really stop and figure this out like why am i feeling this way what is new relationship energy i mean this is something i've never heard of before oh it has a it has a somebody's defined it you know so so that's what it is now i understand what this is and what i'm feeling um and and then and then also understanding that yes they're true feelings but But don trust the feelings, that this is something more than just an infatuation.

Right. It's temporary. Yes. It's temporary. Yeah. Right. You know, your relationship with your primary partner is not temporary. So, you know, it's a matter of getting all of that in the proper perspective and, and it's a process. Right. And I think this is where people can get confused between, and not just non-monogamous people, but I think this is where people can get a little bit ahead of themselves with, is this love or is this infatuation? Yeah.

or is it lust or is it you know is there just some chemistry there that is attracted to me but it's not the you know it's not love because I mean you and I know we've been to enough marriage seminars that love is more of a commitment you know it's not just an emotion it's it's an action word it's an action word and you have to choose to love that person day after day after day it's it, it's not, it's more than just this infatuation. Um, and then it is strong and, and the feelings that you feel may, may be really exaggerated. I mean, it, it just seems like it's, they're bigger than life. Yeah.

But, but understanding that this is something that's temporary. like you said. Right, it's new. Yes. That's right. And it's going to become old. I mean, things can only be new for a certain period of time. And then it's not new relationship energy anymore after that. It turns into something else. Right. And that something else is where we're headed.

Okay, so there's processing and then there understanding and this perspective is next and and you know i'm i'm pretty level-headed and you and i have been fortunate to have been with some amazing couples and some very attractive couples and i have been with women who are just, they're just beautiful inside and out. Yep. But the perspective here is that I understand their place in my life.

And I understand that, you know, the space that you and I have and the relationship that we have, we've committed to and the reality of it is that can never be this yeah it can't be um and and so it's you know to keep that perspective that it's new um we have a solid relationship there's no holes in it i i don't have it you know there's nothing that you're not giving me that I would even want from somebody else in the longterm. So I, I guess I should have told you that.

Um, but you know, it's, it's keeping that perspective that, you know, I, I, there's no way that this can be sustained over a period of time. Because even the infatuation that you and I had with each other at first didn't last. Right. I mean, it ebbs and flows. But, you know, so anyway, to have the maturity of thought to say, wait a minute, I know what's going on here. This person appears to be Prince Charming. They appear to be, you know, no warts, you know, very perfect, great in bed. You know, they're all of this.

But in reality, it's having that perspective to say, wait a minute, I know that that's not reality, and i need to let this well i remember you you told me one time when um we were talking about somebody and she's just so beautiful and always appears to have her act together and she does have her act together but you were like no seriously like you know i don't have to live with her she doesn't have to tell me to take out the trash or you know this or that or that you know i used the wrong credit card or exactly exactly like all the crap you have to do when you're when you're living life with somebody she and i had that conversation because the four of us went on vacation together if you're thinking of the person i'm thinking thinking of.

Yes, I am. And it was funny because she was giving her husband a hard time, very much in the way that you do with me. And so I said, look, you do that. I'm so glad you're doing that with your husband, but you and I, we don't need that. I'm the fun boyfriend. You're the fun girlfriend. Let's just keep it lighthearted, you know. And I said, if there's anything that, you know, if there's something smudged on my shirt, tell Mrs. Jones. And she'll treat me like the husband. I don't want us to have that kind of relationship. I just want us to be fun.

Yeah, so I get to do all the dirty work yeah right but it goes both ways so yeah it all works out and and there is and so there's nothing wrong with enjoying that because that's really part of it yeah i mean that's part of the fun of it you meet a new couple and it's uh the thrill of the chase but um understanding that don't be consumed by it yeah you know enjoy it but don't be consumed by it because really you could start to hurt Thank you.

um understanding that don't be consumed by it yeah you know enjoy it but don't be consumed by it because really you could start to hurt feelings you know if right you lose focus right and yeah if you're focusing on the other couple instead of focusing on your family or you know your partner then you know it can it can uh get old after a while yeah right Thank you. Instead of focusing on your family or, you know, your partner, then, you know, it can get old after a while. Yeah, right. And so then finally, it's responding to it. So allowing the energy to wane.

I mean, just like most other energy sources, except for maybe nuclear energy, you know, it's going to have a half. That's right. So over time, it's going to wane and it's going to weaken. And so having the maturity, you know, to allow that to happen and then not to act impulsively during this phase when you're feeling like a middle schooler again, because decision making can be affected.

So, I mean, that, I think that is really important because you and your partner have your rules and boundaries in place and you're like you know adrenaline is pumping and your heart rate is elevated because you get this text message yeah yourormones, yeah. Yeah, your hormones are raging. You get this text message and, you know, sometimes we react and respond without thinking first. Yes. Because you're just running on that. That's right. That sexy energy.

And sometimes you can cross a line that shouldn't be crossed, at least not without talking to your partner first right and then and then you've gotten yourself in a pickle that you're going to have to get yourself out of that's right and it's just because of that energy you know it you're not intentionally trying to hurt anybody you're just not making logical decisions right and i think um to kind of put a period on the end of or maybe an exclamation point at the end of this responding piece is consider what's at risk here. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, some of us have been married for a long time, you know, so there's a marriage relationship, you know, there could be families, you know, affected, friendships, you know, there's a whole lot at risk here. And, and we, we've said this from the very beginning of this podcast of episode number one, you know, there's, there's a, there's a risk here. So is the reward, you know, worth the risk? Right. I mean, we're playing with fire. Right. And so I think considering what's at risk should sober you up a little bit. Yeah. And say, okay, wait a minute. Whoa. What am I talking about here?

You know, I've got a job or I've got kids graduating or I've got, you know, parents to take care of, or I've got, you know, I've got this partner that I've got plans with. I mean, you and I just went over our five-year spreadsheet together. There's no room for any of this. Don't fuck it up, honey.

this partner that i've got plans with i mean you and i just went over our five-year spreadsheet together there's no room for it don't fuck it up honey that was good you said that with passion no i'm not kidding okay and i'll try not to fuck it up either okay thank you says the girl who doesn't remember a big chunk of las vegas yeah yeah that's true um yeah so anyway that that kind of wraps up that piece of it but in the lifestyle though um i remember couples asking us initially when we got into this and we started meeting people like have you ever have you guys ever thought about being exclusive yeah and for some reason and there's nothing wrong with that if that's your thing but you and i both were like have never considered that or wanted that right i think my response we were talking to friends and we probably only been the lifestyle a couple years and we had gone away for the weekend with friends and and we were just kind of sitting around in the afternoon having a cocktail together.

And, and our friend is just very naturally inquisitive. And he just kept asking questions, um, just philosophical questions. And then he asked if we had ever thought about being exclusive. And, um, we were both like, no, like not even. And like, and I just remember looking at him saying, I do not have the emotional energy for that. Yeah. I can't imagine that, like dealing with that. Now, does that mean I think it's wrong? No. I've learned to always say, never say never. Maybe you and I haven't met the right couple. I don't know. I think some of our closest friends are just like us.

Like, oh Lord, I do not have the energy for that. That's right. You know, and, and those are probably like, you know, there's a couple of couples I can think of that we could be exclusive with. I mean, I think we have, I think we have a four-way connection. We have a great four-way connection. We're, we're just good friends, easy to be around, very like-minded in the way we live life and our value systems. Right. But I think they're just kind of like us. Like, no, I just don't have the desire to put the energy in that or the need to put the energy in that for whatever reason. Right.

Some stumble right into it, and they're like, holy shit, what just happened? And then some people search for it. And maybe they find it, and maybe they don't. But they find that enticing. Yeah, I mean, the people that we know that are in more of a polyamorous kind of relationship, I think most people have said, we weren't looking for this, it just kind of happened, and we processed it, and we're going to give this a try, but we can tell that when people do this in a healthy way, they seem to be logical about it.

we understand we're playing with fire you know we understand this may not last a long time but the four of us want to make a go of it and we're committed to this and i'm like good you know good on you you know at least at least you see people like thinking it through but i think there are times when we've also seen an imbalance, like when there's NRE with, let's say, the husband and the other wife, but the other husband and the wife don't have that same energy. Right. You know, then all of a sudden there's a little bit of an imbalance.

And if the two that have the energy aren't careful, you can drive the relationship and the friendship away, you know, right from the, right from the get go. Right. And I think, you know, it kind of puts pressure on the partners that don't have that, that desire for that strong connection, you know, to either do something that they really don't want to do just to be part of it or, you know, or they can withdraw and start feeling alienated. Yeah. And, um, you know, that's, that's really sad because I'm sure that's not intentional, but I think that's a natural reaction. Yeah. Right.

And again, the partner that has the energy has to be able to listen to his partner his spouse or partner and realize okay i need to dial it back because my my primary um partner here is struggling and and that's my primary relationship and i need to dial it back you know a little bit and work on this yeah and if the other person doesn't sense that that's happening it can just get a little bit out of hand yeah at that point in time yeah um and but you know what i mean you we've said it i mean you could you could find yourself in a poly relationship and i think that's a scary word for a lot of people who are new and it was and you know i don't know that you and i will ever experience that but we never say never I don't know.

I don are new and it was and you know i don't know that you and i will ever experience that but we never say never but it's just something that a lot of people we're not saying that it's going to happen to you but the people that it has happened to like i said they said they weren't expecting it it just it just kind of happened yeah and also So this NRE, handling this nre and our experience our observations are it it it it happens a lot especially with couples who are newer to the lifestyle because this is a new experience and maybe you've never experienced nre before and you don't quite know how to handle it where those of us who have been through that this cycle before, it's exciting when we meet a new couple and there's that energy, but we also know that it's probably going to run its course.

But we may be lifelong friends. But that energy at the beginning is going to wane.

You know, one thing we were talking with friends about not too long ago is we were talking about the like the cycle you go through when you meet a couple you know you meet a new couple there's a connection there's a lot of new relationship energy and then you end up eventually playing with them and you know tons of adrenaline and energy are in that first play experience because it's all new and you're trying to figure it out and and all that and then you know if it's if it's a good experience and you come back together and that energy's still there but as you play with people over and over again that energy tends to wane over time or maybe not wane, but settle in.

Yes. That's a better word. Um, because I'm thinking of our good friends and we only see them a two or three, maybe four times a year. If that, yeah. And so every time we see them, it's exciting again, but we all know But we all know that we're going to go our separate ways and we're going to see you in a few months. But we have a friendship and we have shared life things together. We have shared real things together. But they're still at a distance. They don't know how much money we have in our checking account. I mean, you know what I mean.

there's this separation of all of a sudden when stuff becomes too personal right it's like well wait a minute but with but with our good friends you know they have their lives we have our lives we intersect with them you know as often as we can and it's and it's like exciting again and it's fun to be with them but then when we're not you know you and i go on with our lives right you know that's kind of the way that we've experienced it so far right and that's when there's a couple where there's that great four-way connection yeah you know but but what about like like just you know the how do i say this like a typical interaction where you meet a couple and you get along great and, and you play and then you play again and there's less energy and then there's less energy.

So it's like that, like this new relationship energy, does it have like a half life like we were just talking about? Yeah. And it just slowly settles so that maybe that lack of that adrenaline rush drives you to seek out another couple. Yeah. And I think what you're describing happens most of the time in the lifestyle. Right.

I mean, and there are people that we know in our lives that we've played with that we're still good friends with but maybe we played with them once or twice and the cycle that you just described happened and we don't regret anything no we had a good time but i think because you and i are only you and i that that's more likely to happen we're less likely to have long-term ongoing relationships with couples even though there are one or two I'll see you next time.

and I that that's more likely to happen we're less likely to have long-term ongoing relationships with couples even though there are one or two but for the most part you're right you you kind of cycle through yeah and and I think we are taught maybe by society that's using people or that you feel cheap about that but but in the lifestyle that seems to be you know kind of how we approach the lifestyle right well you know we i know i don't even know the episode number but i know we talked about like circles of friendships before concentric those concentric circles yes you know so you know most people are going to eventually step outside that inner concentric circle and just kind of fit in somewhere where you're going to casually run into them at events or this and that.

And that's great. You're glad to see them again. Right. But that new relationship energy doesn't stick. Right. That's exactly right. Yeah. It's when it sticks and it doesn't go away that you've got to figure out what to do with it. That's right. And if it doesn't stick, that doesn't mean anybody did anything wrong. Right. And it doesn't mean that somebody's not attracted to somebody else. It just goes back to that whole chemistry thing. Well, also, honey, what it comes down to is that you consume my life. In a good way. In a good way.

And so i don't have a natural desire to perpetuate a relationship with another woman i mean friends yes but but i think that that's that's the cycle of this new relationship energy you you and we shouldn't apologize for it and people shouldn't get angry when when people maybe you're you drift apart i think that's just natural part of how you know people go through this lifestyle yeah you know i read i read an article the other week and um it it was talking about friendships and it said the natural cycle of friendships is you you cycle through your friendships every seven years you know so i i think that's just a natural part of life and especially because our society is so transient now and especially the lifestyle like the lifestyle yeah you know we're we're very fortunate with our t our dc crew you know we we actually have a lot of people that we get to see fairly often yeah um but there's really only a handful of couples that you know live in our town you know we're still like an hour or two or three hours apart you know and and our good friends are airplane rides away yes so you know it it's just part of life it's so new relationship energy is not a bad thing it's just when it when it doesn't settle into place so that the rest of your life can continue you can function yeah well and it's not really understanding initially that that's what it is it it's it's that you don't check yourself yeah and we as adults should be able to check ourselves right right we we should be able to say okay i realize what i'm feeling right now i'm gonna enjoy it but i'm not gonna i'm not going to overreact to it.

I'm not going to make any rash decisions in it because I know what it's doing to my decision-making process. And I'm going to ride it out and I'm going to enjoy it, but I'm also going to respect my primary relationship. And then we're just going to see where this goes and we're going to communicate and we're going to talk about it. And if it turns into an issue, we're going to discuss that too.

And if it turns into an issue we're going to discuss that too and if it turns into something more permanent as in an exclusive or poly relationship you're going to discuss that too because maybe that's a good place to head but it's got to be a place that you both are headed together and you know know what we haven't mentioned this is and this is so it's we're at a disadvantage in the lifestyle because we don't have good friends around us all the time so where i'm going with this is that it's so easy to see when nre could be a problem in another couple because we're not going through that and i can look at that relationship and go oh geez I hope he understands what he's doing yeah you know I hope I hope they let this thing settle down so but we don't have lifestyle friends necessarily with us all the time that are going to point that out to us but it's easy to see when it could be happening in others but it's difficult for you to see when it's happening to yourself right just like with your kids you can you it a mile away.

Oh, gosh. Puppy love. You know, I can see what's happening. Yeah. So anyway, as we wrap this up, you know, the one word that keeps coming to mind when we talk to people is that NRE can be addictive. Oh, and you know, we've talked about how the lifestyle is addictive. We talked about that a long time ago. It's a really powerful drug. Yes. And you need to, we all need to understand that. Yeah. And so it, just like anything else, if you overdose, you're going to pay a price, you know, for it.

So being able to regulate, you know, the amount of energy that you're expending and things that you're doing is important because it can be addictive. Yeah. It's all about balance, baby. I know. So much easier said than done. I know. And new does not mean forever. And we talked about this. So NRE is going to become something. Yeah. It's either going to become a stronger feeling. It's going to become a friendship or it's going to wane and, you know, fade away. But that's just the nature. That's why it's new. Right. It's not going to be new forever. Right.

So I guess the whole point of this podcast is just be aware. Yes. Yeah, we're not telling you what to do or what not to do. No. Be aware. Yes, right. There's a lot at risk here. Yeah. And give grace to allow your partner to work through this.

So if you're the person who doesn't feel the NRE and your partner is, you have to a little bit understand okay i know what they're going through he's acting like a middle schooler right now i hope or she yeah i hope it's just a phase i'm gonna talk about it i'm not gonna get upset about it but i'm gonna but but as as my primary partner it's up to me to bring this up and talk about it logically and not get overly concerned about it but just say hey this is what i'm noticing and give the person enough time to process that and understand that they don't have really we we can't help what we feel right but we can help how we respond you know right to what we feel and you know we all know getting into the lifestyle that it's, it's going to be bumpy.

Right. And, you know, and that's why you, you build these guardrails around yourself and you have these rules and boundaries to kind of keep yourselves in check. That's right. So you just got to, got to respect that and, um, and listen to when your partner talks to you, you know, try not to be defensive and, and just understand that everybody has their, a right to have their own perspective. You know, We'll see you next time.

talks to you you know try not to be defensive and and just understand that everybody has their a right to have their own perspective you know if even if they're not seeing it right that those are their feelings at that point in time right so and and like i said um people don't necessarily ask for this or look for it sometimes it just happens because again you both have elected to give this lifestyle a try so you're you're in uncharted waters it's a little bit risky because you're giving each other permission to explore um and it could happen even if you're not looking for it now we we haven't experienced that yet that doesn't mean that we're not going to but well i mean we have it's just it's never gotten to the point well when we first got in the lifestyle yes oh yeah we were you know we were literally consumed with our phones right you know and waiting for the next text message and this and that right you know but we we've quickly figured out that life still needed to go on yeah you know and and we still like love to get to know other people but but like you said we we kind of identify it quicker now yes and can kind of rein it in yeah we can keep it at arm's length yeah we we understand what it is because it's not necessarily a bad thing no it's a good thing it's fun yeah no kidding it's fun and lastly and you know the be thoughtful and deliberate with decision making during nre because just like your kids i mean i mean it's a good perspective to have you know when you look at your kids making decisions decisions you're going uh let's look at the bigger picture here you know yeah what's really going on here there's a lot at risk I don't make any rash decisions.

You know, let yourself work through whatever it is you're feeling and communicate through it. But making decisions can lead to a lot of regret, you know, and a lot of pain yep for people so keep that in mind don't fuck up my spreadsheet your spreadsheet has me living until i'm 95 so i'm happy with your spreadsheet all right that's when we're going to be penniless you've got it worked out you've got it worked out to the penny. If I live to 96, we're in trouble. We're going to have to borrow money from somebody. No, the stock market is just going to have to pick back up. Oh, yeah.

That would be nice. So, you know, I don't want this to come across as a negative thing. The NRE is really fun. It's exciting. And you can't avoid it. Like if you're going to be in the lifestyle, you're going to feel it. It's going to happen. Yeah, it's going to happen. So learning what it is and how to process it and react to it is where we're going tonight. Yeah. All right. So we have a snapshot to read. Yes. When we come back.

It's a good one it is welcome back to snapshots yes and since i'm not quite back in the saddle yet we don't have any sexy snapshots but we do have a funny one yes and you should read it since your voice is obviously the people have spoken and it's more sexier than mine so you go right ahead all right i give it a shot here okay so this couple starts out saying that they were at an airbnb that is a guest house on a vineyard it was beautiful after a day of enjoying various wineries we decided to sit out on the second story deck and enjoy the sunset without any clothes on. Of course.

I mean, what could possibly go wrong, right? Okay, they said there is quite a bit of privacy. The main house was vacant, and the neighbors next door were quite a ways away. So after the sunsets, we decided to head back inside, only to find that the door had closed behind us. We are now stuck up on this deck buck naked. We struggle with trying to force the door open for a while and try to figure out if we can somehow climb down again naked. The only thing we have with us besides the dog is my phone, which is of course running low on battery.

So it's now about 11 o'clock p.m and we finally decide to text our Airbnb host and see if she can come over and open the front door from the inside. So we text and there's no response. We wait and there's no response. We finally try calling and it goes to voicemail. So we wait for a return call, but nothing comes. So now we've been outside naked for over an hour in the dark, and while the day was warm, it's now 68 degrees. The smart use of a dying phone to check the temperature, of course. And the temperature was headed down to 62 degrees.

So we lay out the patio furniture cushions and discuss settling in for the night. It quickly dawns on us that 62 degrees in the dark while naked means we will get much too cold well before dawn. We also realize we will be in the same predicament in the morning when people show up. I then consider using one of the patio chairs to break the glass door, but then we'd have a mess to deal with and are barefoot with broken glass on the ground. Not a great plan. As my phone battery dwindles I look up the phone number for the nearest city which is too small to have a police department.

I finally found a non-emergency phone number for the county sheriff and I gave it a call. I get put on hold a couple of times for a number of minutes each while I watch the battery on my phone get closer to empty. The operator at the sheriff's department immediately transfers me to the fire department where they answer and ask the nature of my emergency. I explain that it isn't actually an emergency, but that we just need someone to go into the house and come upstairs and unlock the door so that we can get back inside. She said she would dispatch a truck.

I urgently pass along the gate code to get into the vineyard before my phone dies. About 20 minutes later, we hear a large vehicle climb the steep hill in the vineyard. The fire engine is too large to make it down to the drive to the guest house where we were staying, but I am able to whistle very loud and get the attention of the firefighters as I waved to them naked with a chair cushion held in front of me. You know, neither one of us can whistle. We would like totally been up a creek. And then we'd be yelling. So they made their way over and I give them the code to get in the front door.

Two firefighters come to the locked balcony door as I stand with a cushion in front of my privates. My wife keeps a pretty low profile while the firefighters open the door. I explain that we were just enjoying the sunset in our all-together attire and found the door locked behind us. The firefighters say that they are happy to help and wish us a nice night.

We hope your listeners get as much of a chuckle out of this as we did even when trapped outside naked we were laughing about the situation yeah that's that's hilarious especially with the battery dying i know i know and see that would be me because i'm so irresponsible with my battery and but mine would be at like 98%. I know. Because when it gets below 50, I start hyperventilating. Oh, my gosh. But you don't always take your phone with you. Of course, I guess you could have called on your watch, but yeah. Oh, that's right. I would have my watch on. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's so funny, though.

I mean. Well, the picture of the fire truck coming up over the hill and him waving with the cushion in front of his crotch. Yeah, so if any of you have funny or sexy stories that you would like to share, we would certainly appreciate having some snapshots to read. That's right. Until we can get, well, when we come back from Desire, we're going to have, hopefully we're going to have some snapshots to read. From ourselves. From ourselves. If not, at least we'll watch our friends have sex. Yeah, that's right.

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