Episode 55: Finding Our Happy Place in the Lifestyle

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This podcast contains explicit language and content and is for mature audiences only. Hey you teenagers out there, if you're under 18, this show is more for your parents. So now that you have that mental picture stuck in your head, put some music on and get back to doing your homework. We are a long-time married couple who's decided to chronicle our personal adventures and share our sex-positive discussions as we navigate our way through the swinging lifestyle. Care to join us?

hello everyone i'm mr jones and i'm mrs jones and we want to welcome you to episode 55 of the we gotta think podcast what's what's so special about 55 i'm just gonna say fuck you right now what did i do to deserve that it is 55 so this So this is take number two. And Mr. Jones was like, oh, episode 55. That's how old you are. Yeah. So fuck you. Thank you. I know how old I am. I have a driver's license to prove it. Finding our happy place in the lifestyle. Oh, we're so happy, aren't we?

We're trying to find find our happy place we thought we found it until you told me that the episode matched my age you know the life of a husband you can't win can you no oh but you're my hero oh yeah because so we've been in our house what like it's it's almost 12 years years, right? Yeah. So a lot of the, like, shrubbery in our flower beds in the front of the house have become a little mature. Yeah. What do you mean? It looks like a jungle. So today, Mr. Jones used his, what, your back, your, oh, God. Everything. I'm going to be sore tomorrow. Yeah.

Tomorrow's tomorrow is gonna be bad but the next day is gonna be worse yeah we we dug lots of big stuff out of our garden today and you were amazing and you were never even grumpy about it no and after we got all done he took the last load around to dump luckily we have woods in our house so we don't have to like chop it all up and put it in trash bags we can just dump it in the woods so he took the last load around to dump. Luckily, we have woods in our house, so we don't have to chop it all up and put it in trash bags. We can just dump it in the woods.

So he takes the last load over to the woods to dump all the dug-up crap. And he comes back, and I said, this may be grounds for divorce, but I think this last azalea needs to go. And you were like, yeah. You actually agreed with me. You were like, yeah, you're right.

that's because i had my saw in my hand i couldn't believe it yeah so you're a good husband well you know speaking of happy place when your wife lets you have sex with other people what's cutting down one more damn bush that's not a big deal anymore that's so true my happy place is at costco seriously yes okay go ahead and tell your story well there's only one version of this story because you were there so we were totally like i'm i'm with you on this yeah we were i always push the cart that's my job yes and you flip through your phone because you have the costco list yeah, I have an app, like the groceries app.

And we were coming to the end of an aisle, and at the end of the aisle, they had one of those big columns, you know, big steel columns that you have to navigate. Yeah, in a warehouse, yeah, to hold the roof up, right. Well, I came to the end of the aisle with the cart, and I saw the front of another cart coming along the end cap. At a 90-degree angle. At a 90-degree angle. So I stopped, and I looked around the corner, and there was this attractive woman pushing her cart, and we both stopped. And I said, oh, please go ahead.

Well, she started pushing her cart, and she ran straight into the I-beam. It was ridiculous. It was so funny. And in my mind, she ran into the I-beam because she kept looking at me. She did keep looking at you. Yeah. And then she was a little bit embarrassed. Like, I can't even, like, give you a hard time about this, because I was like, oh, my God. She was, like, totally looking at you and just rammed her buggy right into the column. It was so funny. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the tables were turned on me because you sent me to Walmart to buy groceries this week.

And in our new normal, which we'll talk about in a minute, I do more grocery shopping now. You do. And I'm a fish out of water. Well, it's because we have this new little cute Walmart. It's like one of those neighborhood market Walmarts. So that's part of my story. So they have these miniature carts that are about half the size of a cart. And in the front of the cart, in the bottom, I had put a box of like sausage biscuits or something. And the rest of the cart had the good stuff in it.

So I went to the self-checkout and I got all the way through and there's this nice looking lady again behind me and in yoga pants and i finished checking out and i hit total and she said excuse me sir you forgot this and i had forgotten the sausage thing so i was embarrassed because here i am a guy in the grocery store and i forget the thing so she hands them to me and then i went i had already hit she had to be really close to you you. Yeah, she was. Because like where the self-checkout is, there's like lots of personal space. I know, I know.

And then I had already totaled out, and I forgot it. So then the red light came on. We had to wait for the cashier manager to come over and fix me. Well, the lady didn't move. She could have gone to another aisle and she didn't move. There's like six self-checkout thingies right there. And then she got me all discombobulated because I got, the lady came over, turned the red light off and I scanned the sausage and got, and then I forgot, the lady says, the lady behind me says, sir, you forgot your receipt.

I'm like, that's, I said, you're going to have to come to show me where my car is in the parking lot because I'm all discombobulated. So this whole grocery shopping thing, I'm getting the hang of it. The good thing about it is there, you know, there are a lot of nice looking women in the grocery stores. Right. And you, you came home and you said, she probably thought I was an idiot.

And I'm, and I said, honey, no, she's thinking, damn, you know, his wife is lucky this good-looking guy is actually pushing a buggy and buying zucchini and bananas and strawberries and yeah whatever it was on my list it was mostly produce i think the breakfast sandwiches might have been the only naughty thing anyway but yeah so i'm yeah you're a popular guy at the grocery store unicorns at the at the wal and the Costco. All right, let's move on with Keeping Up with the Joneses. Okay. We've been busy.

We have been busy, and we're going to make a little bit of a change to Keeping Up with the Joneses. We are. So we have realized that we're kind of like trying to figure out how to mesh our personal lives and our business lives or our podcast lives, I guess, together into Keeping Up With The Joneses. And it's kind of become a little too drawn out. So I think what we're going to do is kind of make Keeping Up With The Joneses more about the podcast.

And then we're going to take our sexy, fun times with friends and just kind of intersperse them within the topic itself or save them for snapshots yeah yeah so on that note we're going to talk about what is we got a thing up to we got a thing is like it is like steaming along right and there's a lot of things on the calendar we just had an amazing local meet and greet. We did. This was our third or fourth, but we changed it up this time. We did. And I might have behaved badly and we might not be invited back. You did misbehave. I don't know.

To your credit, it was after the official meet and greet. Yes, it was. We behaved splendidly during the meet and greet. Yeah. So this time we went to a much nicer venue. We limited the number of people and because we had to rent the space out and purchase drinks and food, we charged people for it. Yes. And we sold out. Yeah. We actually, we went to a winery here in Virginia and it was a venue, and we could not have ordered better weather. So we had inside space that flowed into an outside space, and it was just absolutely perfect.

Yeah, so if you're in the area and you want to be invited to the next one, go to our website and sign up for the local meet and greet. But we were so worried about, you know, people were people gonna have a good time and was the venue gonna be the right yeah and was it too much money yeah yeah and it turned out to be really great it was a great group of people we were in there for three hours met a whole lot of people yeah i think everybody had a good time but then, we went out because they had to kick this out because they had somebody else coming in. Right.

But then it was a beautiful day, and they had tons of outdoor space. Yeah, so we went around the corner, kind of on the side of the building where there were some picnic tables and took maybe one or four or five bottles of wine over there. Well, the picnic table, I mean, it would seat eight normal people, 12 swingers. Yes. And that might have been the problem. Yes, and we started socializing, and Mrs. Jones was a bad girl. No, my friend was a bad girl, and I did not have the fortitude to fight her off. Right. I may have kissed her back.

Yeah, so we'll see when we go to try to rent that place again. Oh, my gosh. Fortunately, it was off to the side, not in the public area. Well, I said, oh, nobody was watching. And then you tried to make me feel bad. You tried to make me feel bad.

You were like, oh, no, there were servers and all kinds of like wine or like the winery people there yeah like watching you yeah there's two hot women make it out i'm sure nobody else was watching we weren't making out we might have kissed goodbye for a long time my friend was not sober yeah i was probably not either, but I think I was more sober than she was. Anyway, you're going to have to behave yourself. It was my friend's birthday. You're going to have to behave yourself next time. How could I not give my friend a birthday kiss? Moving on. Whatever. Next. Okay. What is this?

This is October of 2018. Yes, it is. We have a meet and greet coming up. In two weeks from today. Yes. Well, from Thank you. Next, okay, what is this? This is October of 2018. Yes, it is. We have a meet and greet coming up. In two weeks from today. Yes. Well, from today, the night we're recording, yes. Choice Social Club in Providence, Rhode Island. We're going to meet some of our private, we got a thing, member community group there before the big party at the club. Yes. And then we're going to host a meet and greet at the club and party at the club all night. That's right.

We have good friends that live in Boston and they go to this club often. And they contacted us and said, we think you guys need to do a meet and greet here because this is just a top-notch club and and you know they've had nothing but positive experiences there yeah so they're gonna host us at their home and um yeah i think it's gonna be fun all around so if you're listening to this before then and you're in the area come yes come see us that's right our meet and greet is saturday october 20th it is a masquerade ball night at toy Social Club.

And if you go to their website, you can see all the details. And if you go to our website, there's a link to their website. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Another thing we have coming up, we have a really cool sex toy slash sex education shop in Alexandria, Virginia, which is near where we live. Just south of Washington, D.C. Called Lotus Blooms. And we are going to do a workshop there on November 4th, Sunday. We are super excited. Yeah, Sunday night. So if you're in the local area, go to the Lotus Blooms website and sign up.

We're excited about partnering with them and probably doing more workshops up there. I hope so. I think it's going to be really fun. Yep.

The big news, big news though no we got a lot of big news because guess where we'll be in one month um well no it's five weeks okay five weeks from today so we are going to be in speaking of like we haven't even talked about the title of our podcast tonight yeah we did we did finding our happy place we did yeah because i was teasing you about being 55 and i pulled us back oh sorry i'm pretty sure i only focused on like the 55 thing i'm pretty sure i was slightly better but yes so my happy place i think the happiest place place on earth for adults is desire so we're taking 60 or 70 of our closest friends?

No. 60 or 70 couples. Oh, couples. Yes. Okay. With us. And November 10th of 2018 is when the craziness starts.

And I've noticed that we have a MeWe group for this, everyone that's traveling with with us right and i'm gonna start engaging now because i noticed that since we're 30 days out d from swinging down under finally got signed on so now i feel like i have to sign i have to be a little bit more active so you two dudes are in the house now so the party can start well yeah like whatever c and i have like been in there like i know socializing like c has been amazing as far as like organizing like get to know you couples i don't want to talk about it she just makes me look bad she does she makes us all like social media she's gorgeous she's smart yeah and she's irritating too.

Whatever. So anyway, part of what's been happening is there's been two or three little meet and greets pop up around the country. There's two this weekend. Yeah, one in Texas and one in St. Louis. Yeah. And they're sending us pictures and we're jealous because we're not there. I know, nothing but smiles. I'm telling you, they're having some fun. Yeah, we'll see you all in a few weeks. Yeah. But our big, big news is that we are finally ready to announce our November 2019 dates for Desire Pearl. And that will be... I feel like trumpets need to be blaring right now.

Yes, November 16th through the 23rd. Yes. So again, it's the week, the full week before Thanksgiving. Yeah. And what you all need to do is go to our website and click at the top of the page where it says book your desire trip here. Yes.

And as soon as you book your trip, please send me an email at mrjones at wegotathing.com because desire's technology is notorious for, let's just say not working and we are still getting messages from people who signed up and we didn't know they signed up for this year right so we're like oh nice to meet you like we had no idea yeah yeah so as a fail safe please when you book through our site please send me an email and as a and as a caveat to this if. So as a fail safe, please, when you book through our site, please send me an email.

And as a caveat to this, if you're a Premier member, you have to book through the normal Premier. You know the drill. Yeah. Just let us know. Just send us an email after you book through Premier so we know that you're coming. But if you're not a Premier member, please click through our affiliate link. It does two things for us.

It lets us know you're coming and and we can plan accordingly and then secondly i mean just to be fully transparent we do earn commission when you click through our affiliate link it doesn't cost you any extra money but we do get a small commission and we're using that money to um eat no honey oh you and I both have businesses that pay for our food, our Costco bill, but you know, we're using that kind of money to do some more regional meet and greets to pay for our travel expenses so that we can get around the country and meet people and have some fun.

So, you know, it just, it, it really helps us be organized more if you click through click through our and this trip is going to sell out just like the last one sold out it is this one this year sold out in february the ocean view rooms are going to go first so you might want to try to book if you're not familiar with the desire the ocean view rooms are the the least um expensive rooms right when you know the other thing that we use commission for is we do goodie bags for all of our guests that travel with us so you know again when you sign up through our affiliate link we know you're coming and we know how many goodie bags to prepare for and can i just complain a little bit sure so i think we have to buy a new suitcase mr jones why because c and d are like going crazy over like goodie bag shit and and they're having it since they're in singapore i totally get it and we told them that they could do this but they're having all of their goodie bag stuff mailed to our house they have like a whole suitcase worth of stuff and then we have our own stuff honey so if you live near us and you're going to desire november could you please like volunteer what it's okay what because they're gonna owe us oh right oh never mind yeah you guys just keep sending all the shit i'll gladly buy another suitcase yes okay yeah having c and d in our debt yeah that's a good thing see you're a Gene, you're Okay.

Yeah, having C&D in our debt, yeah, that's a good thing. See? You're a genius, honey. Thank you. All right. Let's move on. We're going to be in Las Vegas for Thanksgiving weekend. We are. And we're going to do a quickie, small, let's just call this a meet-up. It's not really a meet-and-greet. Right. We have some friends that are going to be out there. At the same time. Chill Will and his beautiful wife. Yes, Tracy B. Yeah, Tracy B.

and we're going to meet them and we're going to meet a few other couples so if you know it's a four-way meetup but we think we have some other couples that are going to be rolling in so if you're going to be near las vegas on november the 24th send us an email let us know we'll give you the details yep for that meetup. And lastly, we just announced that three, we're going to do at least three. Well, we're going to do more than three of regional meet and greets for 2019. Yes. And we are going to be in San Diego. And that one is already being plotted and planned. Oh, my gosh.

We have a great location. Yes, we do. Can't say what it is. We have great host couples that are already doing like serious research. Yes. Um, we're going to be in Atlanta and we're going to go to finally Toronto. Yes.

As we explore our happy place in the lifestyle, our topic for tonight, um, when we move into segment two, we're going to kind of give you a little bit of a backstory on kind of where we've been the past 18 months and where we are um headed yeah as both a couple and as a podcast and we'll do that in just a second that's right stay tuned welcome back to segment two finding our happy place in the lifestyle hooray have we found it yet we found it again oh it comes and goes the spoiler alert was it yeah. Okay. But there's more to that story. Yeah.

So the bottom line is that we are learning to listen to ourselves. We have this great podcast and sometimes we say amazing things and then just do the exact opposite. I swear so the lifestyle is not a destination no it's a journey and it's not always a journey in a straight line yeah there's a misperception I think by a lot of people especially if you've been in this a while that you've got it figured out yeah and that little bit of complacency normally comes back to bite you. Yeah, right in the butt. Yeah.

Yeah, there's not an official starting line, and there's not a card that you get in the mail for being a swinger. And I think a lot of people, now there are people that email us and they say, I'm not a swinger, my wife doesn't listen listen or my husband doesn't listen. We don't really have a lot of sex. I don't think it's ever going to happen. We just live vicariously through you. And I get that. That's not really lifestyle. But there are many, many more of you who explain that you talk to your spouse about this, but you guys would never think of, you know, being in the lifestyle.

But in fact, you are in the lifestyle. Right. Or maybe it's not the right time in their lives. Yeah. Maybe they have little kids and they don't have people around to help them escape every now and again. So they just kind of have to live vicariously until they reach another season in their lives, I guess. Right. And I think what we're going to talk about tonight is this happy place, and we'll tell you more about that in a minute, is a place that you get to define for yourselves as a couple. Yeah. What is it that you want to do? How do you want to do it?

How fast do you want to move or slow do you want to move and that's your happy place you get to you get to pick right and the thing I um I guess what made me think about this whole topic is when we were talking to Catherine last month and she said that the lifestyle is where she and her husband go to grow right you know so as a couple they use the lifestyle kind of sort of as a tool to um push themselves and to um take that opportunity to explore their relationship and explore their individual wants and desires yeah and i but i think it's also safe to say that we didn't understand that when we first came into the lifestyle, we thought it was a place where people go to have sex with other people.

Yeah, totally. Yeah. And, and that's why we were hesitant and that's, it took us a while to understand that that's really not what it is at all. Right. At least not the way we view it. Well, you know, when, when you think of the word swinger, you know, you just all of those, um, stereotypical thoughts come into your mind and it's just, you know, about this crazy like sex party that you go to. And, and, um, that is definitely one way to swing and, and sometimes that's really fun. Oh yeah. It can be a happy place on multiple, it can. On multiple levels. But that's only one piece of the puzzle.

Right. So what we wanted to try to do tonight is, for those of you, and this is going to be, I've been told that this is going to be an upbeat podcast. Yes. We're going to have fun. By Mrs. Jones. Yeah. We're not going to dwell on the negative. We're going to have fun, damn it. We're going to accentuate the positive. That's right. So, but let's give you some backstory. So 18 months ago, we did an episode number 37, and we told you that we were outed as podcasters and swingers in the swinging lifestyle.

And yeah, if you want to hear the gory details, please go back and listen to episode 37 if you haven't heard it yet. You know, we kind of recounted a pretty painful meeting that we went to with some friends and neighbors and our pastor. And it was a very uncomfortable meeting to say the least. And as a result, we left our church. So all of those gory details are back in that episode, but the reason we bring it up tonight is just to kind of, I guess, get the setting in place. Well, we're going to start from there, because you know about that, and we don't need to rehash that.

Yeah, and i don't want to rehash it yeah so and at the same time we said back then that we are not going to go into any more detail because we were right in the middle of it and there were people that we had told and still needed to tell and there were some big decisions that we had to make and so we intentionally said we're gonna come back to this in in the future and kind of do a retrospective and tell you guys what we actually went through. Yeah. And ultimately, though, that leads back to our happy place. Yes.

The happy place that we're in now is a result of everything that we've been through really over the past five years, but past 18 months have been very um instrumental in some of the decisions that we've made you know about our personal lives our lifestyle lives and our business lives so you might be interested to know who we told and why we told them yeah and how we told them yeah yeah so first thing that we did was we decided that there were a circle of people closest to us in all aspects of work, community, friends and family that we needed to tell. And we told some.

And we've told friends from my work, friends from your work, people in our family. We just told our best friends. Yeah. Have been friends with us for over 30 years. Yeah. And that actually went much better than I thought it would. Yeah. And the rate at which we told people accelerated because back at that first meeting, that was pretty traumatic.

And I think we are under the impression that, oh, my gosh gosh if every conversation we have with people is going to be this traumatic we should just not tell anybody but the more people we told the easier it got yeah and um you know I think uh that unfortunate that that negative experience really kind of made me withdraw from the community in in general like you mean the local community yeah the local community um i stopped going to the gym because i didn't want to run into anybody there i you know and and i literally when i would be out at the local stores i just i was just always afraid i was going to run into somebody and and that's ridiculous i I felt like I was kind of being held hostage in my own community, and that was my doing, my inability to deal with those negative experiences and, I guess, just general fear.

Yeah, and as we told people, and it started to get easier, I think we decided at one point in time, you decided that we needed to tell our daughter. Yes, our older daughter lives in our town. Yeah. And we felt like there was a fairly high likelihood that somebody could get to her with some gossip. Yeah.

And that would definitely be something we wanted to come from us versus the rumor mill correct yeah so so how did that go as i like to tell the story um i'll say this tongue-in-cheek first and then i'll say what really happened as i like to tell the story mr jones stayed at home with his head between his knees and was breathing into a paper bag for like four hours while I was gone the reality was I was at work and you texted me and said you were going over to drop the bomb yeah that's exactly what I texted you yeah and yeah you said we'll have fun with that but in all seriousness Mr.

Jones and I had talked um at length about this over a period of time and And we decided since it was our daughter that we were telling, well, we have two daughters, but since it was a daughter, that it would probably be less awkward coming from mom versus dad. Thank goodness. That worked in your favor, didn't it? Yeah.

All those teenage hormones from those girls all during the years, that of paid off for you uh in this regard didn't it yeah yeah so anyway i went over to her house and um there was definitely some wine involved um my grandkids were at school so it was just the two of us at her house and and i just kind of i ended up telling her everything. I started out talking about, you know, clothing optional resorts and, and desire. And she was somewhat familiar with the resort just by doing like Google searches. She had gone on vacation in Cancun before.

So it had popped up in her Google search and she just knew about it from, you know,. So I kind of explained it to her, and then I asked her if she knew what the word lifestyle meant, and she didn't. And so I had to define that for her. And then I just kept telling her a little bit more and a little bit more, and she was pretty unflappable. So every time I would say something and didn't get pushback from her or, you know, oh my God, I can't believe you're doing that. Well, not only did you not get pushback when you told her about desire and lifestyle, she said, what?

She said, I always knew you and dad were a little freaky. And you said, is that good freaky or bad freaky? And she said it was good. But so anyway, I told her all about, you know, the life side. Of course, no gory details. Well, you told her that we had an experience with another couple. Yes. And that's really all that needed to be said. Right. And she was okay. So then I told her about the podcast. And I told her of, and I told her, um, I didn't tell her the name of the podcast and you know, that's up to her. She wants to Google it or not.

Um, but I told her about the podcast and I really told her about like our, our vision for our podcast and really what we consider our mission to be, which is really to help couples focus on their relationships and to strengthen their relationships in, in whatever form they find comfortable for them. You know, obviously swinging as part of how Mr. Jones and I have decided to kind of expand our boundaries as we, um, you know, continue to work on our relationship. But anyway, I, you know, I explained that part to her and, and she really kind of thought it was cool.

And she even said, you know, you and dad never do anything halfway. So this really doesn't surprise me that you started a podcast. Right. Yeah.

And when I told her about the whole, you know, being basically thrown out of the church, that was when her mama bear clause came out and and she was like gosh if anybody says anything to me about my parents you know just bring it because you know they I dare them to say something bad about my parents to me well she said if more people had marriages like yours divorce rate wouldn't exist in this country yeah yeah basically what she said so I think she was assuming that our podcast could be a positive resource for people. Right. And then when you got home, I had gotten home from work. Yeah.

And you weren't here. And I thought that it was either going really well or that you had bought a plane ticket and you were heading out of town, out of the country to live in exile. But anyway, so when you came home and told me all of this news, I immediately picked up my phone and texted our daughter. And I said, look, two things. First of all, you're an amazing daughter. You're an amazing woman. And, you know, I appreciate your understanding on this. And I said, number two, this was all your mother's idea. She immediately threw the bullshit flag. Yeah. She knows my sense of humor. Yes. Yeah.

But, but I think after that, um, you know, you more than me had been really traumatized by that initial meeting that we had, that we talked about back in episode 37. Right. And, you know, the thing about telling our daughter is that that, to me, was, that was a turning point for me because I realized that, you know, I mean, your kids are the most important things in your whole world. I mean, at the end of the day, what else matters? And to think that we had done something that would put our relationship with her in jeopardy or either one of our girls in jeopardy, um, was terrifying.

And I think that's why I had to tell her I couldn't live with it anymore. It was an obstacle between us. And I just, I felt like it was impairing our relationship with her. So for better or worse, I decided, you know, to tell her and thank goodness it ended up the right way. Cause it was really, really scary. Yeah.

Well, I mean, when you, you had just, it was a huge weight that was lifted off of your shoulders when yeah you came home yeah i knew life was going to go on after that yeah yeah so so that was pretty big yeah and that it was a relief so that was last fall that's been almost a year ago that we told her yeah and then you know we had you know the other people find out through the through the rumor mill yeah the rumor mill is still alive and well in our community yeah which is kind of ridiculous yeah but it is and um i had some some people find out and uh we we got a text, uh, or I got a text, I guess, one morning from a friend and the text said, Hey, I hear you and Mr.

Jones got a thing. Yeah. Referring to our friends, the fusion couple. Yeah. We just wrote a blog about that experience. Yeah, so clearly that conversation ended up going well. Yeah. And we've actually talked about that before, and that was a big relief. Because then we had told our best friends, and it actually took a long time. We just told our best friends a couple months ago because I just couldn't do it. I was just so afraid. And actually one night we were even out to dinner with them. I think it was last winter. And Mr.

Jones went to the bathroom and texted me from the bathroom and said, can we tell them tonight? And what was my reply? Nope. One word, nope. I just, I couldn't do it. But anyway, we got up the nerve a couple months ago and we told him. Again, because the rumor mill has not died down and we're just afraid that somehow people are going to find out. I mean, luckily we do live in a pretty big town. But I think the fact that people were gossiping about us made you feel better about yourself too. Oh, yeah. Because like, do they really not have anything better to talk about? Right.

I know this is salacious gossip. I know this is gossip-worthy news. Yeah. But it's been over a year, people. Find something else to gossip about. Honey, they're listening. You're going to be nice. Oh, hello. Find something else to gossip about. Yeah. So the other part of our life that changed was, you know, we had a new routine. We started new businesses. You know, you retired. Yeah. And that was a pretty big decision. That was a huge decision. And not to be bitter about it, but it was a decision that was kind of taken out of my hands a little bit.

And I really felt like I needed to do that proactively yeah um so yeah so i retired and started a new business um you out of my hands a little bit. I really felt like I needed to do that proactively. So yeah, so I retired and started a new business, different type of profession than what I was doing before. Right. And we've told you that we've started three businesses. But one thing that I think we didn't really understand what was going to be the impact on us was the change in our routines. Yeah. Because... Yeah. we knew the money was going to be tight. Yeah.

You know, because we had gone from two really predictable, secure incomes to done. Yeah, and a savings account. Yeah. Luckily, we had a savings account. Yeah, I had. Yeah. Past tense. Right. But, you know, at least we had that. And we knew that part was going to be rough. And we were ready. And our financial planner was ready with a backup plan so that we could put food on the table and pay our mortgage. But the biggest shock to our systems, and we've joked about this a lot on the podcast, but the new routine of us both being home all day working in the same house. Yeah.

I mean, those of you who are, who do this or your entrepreneurs, you know, it's one thing to, yeah, we, we joke about cohabitating all day long and working out of the house, but it changed our whole routine. And we were in business mode more than eight hours a day and more than five days a week. Yeah, eight hours a day would be a luxury at this point in our lives, wouldn't it? Yeah, it would. But it's paying off and we're doing better now.

But I think what was happening was where we got off kilter a little bit was the fact that we were focusing so much on our businesses um and still doing all of our other family obligations and things of that nature and lifestyle obligations i mean we have a lot of friends in the lifestyle we were spending time with a lot of friends on the weekends at the expense of neglecting personal time for just the two of us right because we were actually working in the evenings yeah during the week um you know because we would we would each do our own businesses during the day and then we would work on we gotta think stuff in the evenings and and it just never stopped and i think i i was starting to think of you more as like my business partner than my husband.

I mean, we do make a good team. We are good business partners. We are. We complain about each other a lot. But really, at the end of the day, I think our personalities and the way we think complement one another really well. Yeah. Causes conflict. But when you put it together, I think it i think it works well yeah so anyway as things started to improve financially on the client side and we started to get business and things started to pick up um we just invested ourselves more into what we were doing well then we were busier because we were busy that was a good problem to have right?

Yeah, yeah. Because we got our safety count back. Right. But I noticed about a month ago or six weeks ago, maybe two months ago. Yeah, it was probably two months ago. That we were disconnected. And me, the way that I handled it, and I'll let Mrs. Jones say how she handled it in a minute because we're a little bit different when it comes to these things. No. Yeah.

sense that we were disconnected a bit and i thought you know what i need to do i need to take her to her happy place you know we need to get away and go to the beach for the weekend because we used to do that all the time and we need to get away from business you know we need to get away from lifestyle we need to get away from all of that stuff from family house yeah the house and taking care of everything and just get down there and get away and i thought well once we do that we can reconnect we'll be re-energized like a retreat you know yeah and then we'll come home and live happily ever after you're such a pollyanna and what did you think when i mentioned we should go to myrtle beach for a weekend i was like oh my gosh okay that's one more trip that i have to plan for i have to pack i have to make sure the laundry is done on the right day i have to stop the paper i have to hold the mail we've got to find a dog sitter and then when we get to beach, we're staying in a condos and I have to bring, you know, paper towels and food and this and that and the other.

And I was like, this is just one more thing to do. Yeah. I'm just a grumpy guest sometimes. Yeah. So how did you, how did you, um, realize we were disconnected? When did that occur to you? While we were having sex? About a week before our trip. I just fell apart. And nothing, we had a perfectly nice evening, and we were in bed fooling around and having a good time. And then all of a sudden I just started crying. And I realized at that point in time that I felt disconnected to you. I think I was just powering through on like autopilot up to that point. And then I just kind of cracked.

and unfortunately I did it right in the middle of sex yeah and you said you proclaimed it's like you sat up in bed and you proclaimed with tears in your eyes that I don't I don't feel like you desire me anymore no I felt like I was just like your business partner yeah well number one there goes the erection I'm like your business partner yeah well number one there goes the erection number two you're a hot mess oh you were so nice to me though well i knew what was going on i know yeah you were very sweet yeah and i said honey hold on we're going away next weekend our promises are going to get better i know you're like one more week yeah so i think we both realized about the same time that we were disconnected so we got in the car and drove to the beach yeah and what was what did the pillow say on the bed when we walked in the door this is my happy place yeah that was the pillow on the bed of the master bedroom of our condo.

Right. I mean, it could not have been a more perfect scene. Yeah. And so the first part, we were there for three days. And the first part of the weekend was reconnection between the two of us. Yeah. And we went running together. We walked on the Dagwon Beach.

You take some massive walks on the beach well yeah because like to walk down to the pier and back it's four miles i know mr jones and i really do have some of our best conversations walking on the beach yeah it's just it's peaceful and it's just beautiful and the the waves are soothing and it just really kind of gets our creative juices flowing i think yeah and we had good sex well there was that yeah so yeah friday night it was just really just in we didn't even like do anything funky it was just like good old sex in the bed you did you got on top of me and you were you were hammering me pretty hard oh well i guess that's the way i reconnect Yeah, that was fun.

And the second night was on the balcony, but I think we'll talk about that later. Yeah. You got to, you got to keep listening for that one. Yeah. So the beach is our happy place and we had our favorite restaurants to go to and we got to sit on the beach and okay.

When we sit on the beach, I readle i always have like a spicy book to read mr jones doesn't really like to read on the beach he likes to sit and people watch yeah so i read my book he people watches and i get this running commentary he like makes up stories about people to walk by we used to play this game at the beach called Older Younger. So couples would walk by, you know, in front of our beach. Yeah, but it got too depressing. We don't play that game anymore. No. Everybody's younger. Yeah, it's pretty easy now. I know.

Well, although in September, there are not a lot of kids' families down there, so it's more our age. No, there were either people, like really, really young families with like toddlers that weren't in school yet, or there were people like us. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, so we just kind of, like, chilled for the first couple days, and it was really nice. Yeah. Then we started focusing on our business because we went down there as a business trip, right? Yeah. I mean, like, it was legit. It was a retreat, a planning retreat. Like, Mr. IRS Auditors, I swear, it was a planning retreat.

and I'll see I have minutes. Right. And you said, take a picture in case we ever get audited. You're a rule follower no but we really did we sat there and we just kind of like mapped out the next year for really all three of our businesses trying to figure out how we're going to balance everything as we kind of like look at the pipeline right and and it was good because we just didn't have the distractions of, oh gosh, I really need to mow the grass or I need to go to the grocery store. I need to do the laundry. It was just sitting there.

And the hardest thing we had to do was go back up to the 11th floor and make ourselves a new drink. So we talked about our podcast a lot. We talked about where we're headed with this. So we've been outed. We. We talked about where we're headed with this. So we've been outed. We don't have to be so concerned about privacy anymore. We've invested in this as a business. So we're serious about it. And it's a mission for us. So what does this all mean? And I think as we get more opportunities to be interviewed, you know, we're getting more and more exposure.

And so we talked a lot about how far We'll be right back. we get more opportunities to be interviewed, you know, we're getting more and more exposure. And so we talked a lot about how far are we willing to go to promote and, you know, kind of be ambassadors in this lifestyle.

Right, because, you know, the more interviews we do, either in print or, you know, on radio shows or other podcasts, you know know that just puts us out there further and further and um you know i'm i'm a little hesitant about that we were on sirius xm radio last month and a lot of people listened to that because our actually our website crashed so many people hit our website because you know they were curious they had never probably really thought about you know the whole swinging lifestyle before and and i think it raises a lot of curiosity so what we want to do in 2019 is we want to get out and about more and and meet other people and bring people together to find their tribe so to speak in, in the lifestyle.

Right. So, you know, like when we go out and about to like local meet and greets or regional meet and greets, I mean, yeah, we get to meet other people and they get to meet us. But really the main objective is for people to meet one another and to hopefully bring people together that are somewhat like-minded as far as what they're looking for in other people and out of the lifestyle. Yeah, and I think these regional meet-and-greets that we're going to do is a good way to do that. Going to Desire is fun, and it's the same thing, but that's time-consuming, and it's expensive, and can do that.

Right. So rather than adding trips to Desire, we want to add events across the country that people might be able to drive to or that may be more local. Yeah, and just kind of a weekend thing. Yeah. So, yeah, we've got, as we mentioned in Keeping Up with the Joneses, we've got a few of them that are kind of in the pipeline. We don't really have dates for any of them yet, except for the, the one upcoming this month. But as we get all of that together, you know, we'll start getting it out. So you guys have some warning and can get it on your calendars. Definitely.

We just feel like when you meet people you truly connect with and, and you find events that you're comfortable at, you know, like I've said before, I struggle at clubs. That's just not my scene. Like it just doesn't fit my personality and the way I interact with people, you know, that, so whatever your style is, if you can find that place, you know, then, then you've kind of, as Mr.

Jones mentioned, you kind are starting to find your tribe and and that's where you find your comfort level in the lifestyle right and you know some of that we just experienced in our um in our members community too we have people all over the country that have come together we've got a couple hundred people in there now and just just a week ago um you know somebody experienced something in real life and it was shared and people like jumped right on and just were offering support and words of encouragement and and we're like you know this is a real community this is not just about posting pictures every day of the week it's people that are connecting with each other and then what they're doing is they're discovering how close they live to each other.

And they're forming their own little meet and greets. And as a matter of fact, the group that's going to Desire with us just this weekend. There were two meet and greets. One in Texas and one in St. Louis. And they're coming to Desire with us. So it's really cool how people are finding each other and are like little subgroups within this community. Right, and we have a group that we're going to do drinks and dinner with before our Providence meet and greet. Yes. That we've already started connecting and plotting and planning. Yeah, definitely. So it's going to be so fun.

Yeah, and another thing that we want to do with the platform that we've built is we want to bring in we're again we're not going to change our podcast we're going to always be mr and mrs jones and do this but we're going to bring in people like we did with katherine every once in a while um albeit you know we whether it's a doctor you know we had the our doctor who did the three-part blog series on erectile dysfunction and he's in the lifestyle but he's also a doctor yeah same thing with katherine you know she's a licensed professional counselor yeah and and she put herself out there right by coming on the podcast right and we also have clergy that, been providing lots of resources to Mr.

Jones and I, uh, personally to kind of help us on our journey as we have transitioned from being part of a church to kind of exploring how we're going to manage our, our faith moving forward in our lives.

But they're also interested in providing resources to the lifestyle community at large right and we're super excited about that yes one of them has just agreed to be interviewed yeah and that should be a lot of fun that'll be really interesting so we think it's a big difference from there are a lot of clergy there's a lot of physicians and doctors and nurses and therapists and counselors who talk about the lifestyle, but they're not in the lifestyle. And so we believe it's a whole lot different when the person is both in the lifestyle and has the credentials.

And so we want to try to connect with people like that and let them use our platform because one of the things that you and I had the benefit of, Mrs. Jones, when we were outed and going through all that crap was we had people like them reaching out to us because it was so public, our outing, they would email us and say, hey, we want to call you. Can we talk to you about what talk to you about what you're going through? And I thought, wow, that's really cool. But wouldn't it be even more cool if those resources were available for the entire lifestyle community?

Because if somebody gets found out or somebody has an STI or somebody needs counseling, um, you know, to have a resource that gets the lifestyle that they can go to. You know, that's just,'s just that's been a real um benefit to us for having this podcast is that we do have a large network that we can um not only serve but we can lean upon when you and i need help um and then when i think of people out there that don't have that network, how isolated they must feel.

So that's why I'm so passionate about building this sense of community so that everybody has somebody to lean on when something goes awry. And sometimes things happen where it's, I guess, sensitive in nature, and you can't necessarily talk to your best friend about it or your sister or your brother or whoever. Thank you.

it's um i guess sensitive in nature and you can't necessarily talk to your best friend about it or your sister or your brother or whoever so you know you've got a bunch of people in the lifestyle community that are non-judgmental yep and that are really good listeners that are are there for you you just have to find them well and i think that's what your ladies group is seems to be all about, too. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So there's a happy place for we got a thing and where we're headed. There's a happy place for Mr. and Mrs. Jones. Thankfully, we reconnected. Yeah.

And we're in a good place now. I remember you now. Yeah, that's right. You're not just a pretty face. You're a really cool guy. But there's also a happy place for where we are in life right now and one morning we were walking down the beach I think it was Sunday morning yeah and we saw a group of teenagers in a circle and somebody had a guitar and right away we knew what was going on because you and I used to be involved in youth leadership right I. And I said, oh, look, it's a youth group doing a sunrise service.

And the leader was playing a guitar and they were singing a song and it was so beautiful. And we used to do that kind of stuff. And I said, oh, I miss my old normal, you know, because that was what we did years ago.

i and i missed that right um but you you really were able to kind of help me see through that and and to to put it in its proper place i guess well what i was saying is that everything that we've done or everything that you go through in life in my my opinion, it prepares you for what's coming next or it molds you into this unique individual and gives you the experience you need when opportunities come up. And so when I look back at being a parent, when our kids were at home, when I look back at being involved in ministry at church, I don't regret not being there.

I had a lot of fun, but I also know that, you know, we made a difference and those people made a difference to us and it helped to make us who we are. And it's part of why we're passionate about the lifestyle.

It's the same kind of quote unquote ministry that we're we're in yeah so yeah i guess this is our new normal yes which is not a bad thing yeah yeah right it's it's you know to continue to live i i think that's that's what i i remember thinking when when you're looking back and you're saying i'm i missed that or i regret that it's like if you don't let go of it at some point in time, then it's going to hold you back from growing. Right. And I think, you know, the podcast and meeting people and just talking to people and hearing their stories.

And I think that's just, it's very satisfying to know that we're helping people find ways to have conversations about deepening their own relationships and challenging their relationships and strengthening their marriages by having conversations that may or may not lead to having sex with other people.

But they're still having conversations about their relationship, and we always have room to grow in our relationships yes um when you think that you don't you end up like us and you start crying in the middle of sex well for all of you who think that the jones is never have any problems or or never fight or never have any issues wrong. Yeah. And we do talk about it. So as we start to wind this up, though, what's the big so what about this? What does this have to do with everybody else that's out there?

Well, I mean, I think for you and I, we have to remember that we are husband and wife before we're business partners. Yes. And I think we just kind of have to keep that in perspective. And then we can say, yes, we're in our happy place. I've got to stop compartmentalizing things and just kind of powering through. And I think I need to talk to you on real time, not when we have time. Because I'm learning quickly that we don't always have time. We have to make time. Correct. Yeah. So I think... And isn't that what everybody has to do? That you have to decide what's most important to you?

Right, right. And I think our friends that we have that are lifestyle on the verge. They claim they're not in the lifestyle. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, they're an amazing couple, and our friend can be very eloquent sometimes, and we actually have a little quote from him, and I think it was a text message or something we got from him, and he was talking about the lifestyle and just them having conversations about where they could potentially be headed, and he said, it's a journey of self-discovery that we are doing together. Right.

That is so cool self-discovery that you're doing together because that's really what it is yes examining your own desires and fantasies and then having the courage to share those out yeah with your partner and um and And then as the partner, accepting that and not reacting or judging or automatically thinking something's wrong because this person you thought you knew so well has this desire or fantasy you didn't already know about. Right.

And I think can learn that you know our happy place is going to be different and we shouldn't compare ourselves to others right so by happy place you know we're talking about a multitude of things we're talking about um what play styles are we into at this point in time that's going to constantly ebb and flow and it isn't necessarily something linear you might go end up full swap and then backing up and you might do one thing with this couple and then that might not appeal to you with another couple and that doesn't you know it doesn't mean It's just, where are you comfortable at that moment in time?

Yeah. And back to not comparing yourself to others, though, I think we have friends, what we've learned, what we were guilty of, like, like we have friends that have done hall passes and that had played separately. And we used to think that, oh my gosh, there's something wrong with their relationship. You know, if they have to do that. Well, not with our friends. You're just talking in general when people play separate. Yeah, right. Thank you. In general.

But then when we started talking to good friends and they would explain what they did with the hall pass and playing separately and like, well, wait a minute, that's a head scratcher because they have a fantastic marriage. Right. They're great people. Right. They're having fun. Yeah. Who am I to.

And they make it sound really hot they don't even it's not scary it's just it's really hot for them and they can and they can explain that to us so we understand it yeah but i think we can also set that aside and be happy for them and we don't have to feel like that's something that we have to do to be happy right that's their thing. Yeah. And we do our own thing. And we hope that when we choose to do things that other people don't look at us and say, well, that's how you have to do it because that's how the Joneses do it.

So I think it all goes back to the lifestyle is where you go to grow as a couple. And that's going to know different for everybody and but as long as you are exploring and discovering um ways to keep growing as a couple that's the important thing and and again that might go to um like a hard stop at pillow talk maybe you're just really not interested in playing with other people, but you find the whole idea intriguing and it's fantasy. It's like food for fantasy in your head and then you have this hot pillow talk about it and maybe you are having sex with another couple.

They're just not in the bedroom with you. They're in your heads. Well, that's what I i was going to say we have this idea that when you hear the term open relationship that you think that means having sex with somebody outside of your marriage but if you're in bed together and you're doing if you're pillow talking or talking dirty to each other and you are talking about another couple being with you or you're using another name yeah isn't that opening your relationship because just because because they're not there physically, you've emotionally let them into your love life. Right.

And so you're opening your relationship, even if you're just fantasizing about it. Right, or maybe role-playing or something like that. Yeah. You know, I think that you just need to get away from that whole idea of swinging means having sex with other people. And maybe that is the definition of swinging, but the lifestyle has so much more to offer than that. Right.

And I think what people can learn is what we've learned is when you were talking earlier about us being disconnected from each other, when I realized we weren't disconnected, I didn't get angry at you for paying more attention to your work. And you didn't get mad at me for not paying attention to you. You got, you were upset and I was concerned, but we didn't attack each other. Yes. And that has really been, um, something that has been actually a positive outcome from the whole mess of being outed as we push through it all.

I can honestly say there was not one time where we pointed fingers at each other and said, you started this mess. No, you started this mess. Yeah. And that just never happened happened i think we both owned our role in the decisions that we made and we both understood it was going to take us working as a team to get through it and we've done that i think really really well yeah and i think also that it's one thing to say that the lifestyle is a place where you go to grow as long as you can keep that secret. But we changed a lot about our lives because we were outed and we had to. Yeah.

So do you think we would be where we are right now if we had not been outed? Probably not. Right. you know I don't know that I would have had the courage to start a new business I don't know that um we would have voluntarily told friends and family about what we do I mean I kind of liked it when it was our dirty little secret. Yeah. You know, that was, that was fun to kind of not sneak around, but to have this stuff going on behind the scenes that only you and I knew about. Yeah. I think the bottom line in whichever, you know, obviously we would prefer to keep it a secret and grow that way.

But either way, you're out of your comfort zone and you learn more and grow more together. Yeah. And we definitely, I mean, believe that our happy place is with each other. Well, at the end of the day, and we said this from like day one, we're like, well, you know, we've got each other. We're not in this alone. If something like that would have happened to, like, I don't know, because it happened to us together, I think that we were able to carry the burden. And, you know, sometimes I could be strong about certain things better than you could, and then vice versa.

So between the two of us, we had the energy or the skill set needed or whatever it was at that moment in time to get through that particular day yes so hopefully this hasn't come across as a big therapy session because we're in a good place we are and um and i just really uh you know appreciate the, I guess the opportunity to reset. So thank you for noticing that we were disconnected because I am really good at compartmentally compartmentalizing things and empowering through. And it wasn't that I didn't desire you anymore. Um, or it wasn't that I still admired you anymore.

It was just that I was exhausted. Yeah. And it was like emotional and physical exhaustion. Yeah. And, you know, honestly, it was a little scary because I had to question myself, okay, we're disconnected.

Why are we disconnected because the lifestyle is playing too big of a role in our life you know um is it because we're not spending time together is it because of business and so you don't really know when you're in the midst of it the only thing that you know is there's a disconnect and we need to find it we know the it's so ironic that and i and i've heard this said you know a ton of times before you know you i lean on you and therefore i can like neglect you because i know i trust that you're always going to be there for me right so when i have a crisis you know you you can um be the one that kind of scoops it all up and cleans it up.

And I kind of take advantage of that sometimes. I mean, I know that's human nature, and that's what marriage is all about. Yeah, but you also lean on the fact that you don't really hit the panic button. You react emotionally, but it's not like you're panicking because you think there's something wrong with the relationship. No. So I think what you're leaning on is the foundation of trust and, you know. Exactly. That we had built up. You said that much better than I did. Yeah, so it's not just me you're leaning on.

It's what we've built together that gives you the security to know, well, I know it's not broken, so whatever this is, it's worrying me, but it's not the end of the world.

We world we're going to figure it out see i just figured i could power through and that it would kind of fix itself yeah well i might not have been right wow i think we should end right there oh wait that needs to be edited okay well enough of that when we come back we've got we've got extra turn the tide extra snapshots because we didn't have any last time we've got one we're going to read for you and then i think i'm going to let you you had asked to do two snapshots i did i asked very nicely yeah so you're gonna let me do it i am all right welcome back to snapshots it's been a long time since we've done these i know taxi time yeah so we have one from a listener yeah this is a good one yeahxy time.

Yeah. So we have one from a listener. Yeah. This is a good one. Yeah. The, it's a funny snapshot and I'm not going to read the sexy part, but we'll make up for it later. I'm going to read to you what he claims is his snapshot, which happened after their sexy time. Okay. Okay. So here it goes.

Here's where our gets interesting so they so they had already played with another couple and had a really good time and it was their only their like second experience playing together okay okay so here's where the story gets interesting we get dressed head outside and turn off turn our cell phones back on we each had five or so missed calls, texts, and we each had voicemails. Uh-oh, something urgent. It turns out that at some point that night, my son couldn't sleep and wanted to come home. His son was at a sleepover at somebody else's house.

The parents of his friend tried calling us numerous times and figured we weren't answering because it was so late we must have been sleeping after leaving a voicemail on both of our phones they drove him back to our house both our cars were in the driveway and the dog was inside but we weren't there oh my gosh my son was very worried as there was no reason for us not to be home. Makes sense, right? So he called the police. The voicemail on my phone was from a police officer telling me that my son called 911 and was concerned for our safety.

They then called my wife's mother, who came to our house to be with my son until everyone could figure out what was going on. Well, my wife and I rolled into the house about 3 a.m. and were greeted by our son and my wife's mother, snapshot. I wonder what the wife, I wonder what her sexy dress looked like in front of her mom and her kid. We explained that we went out downtown and took an Uber. It was all a big misunderstanding. Everyone was okay with it. And my wife and I had a really good laugh about it later. We had been dying to tell someone this story.

However, for obvious reasons, we had to keep it a secret. So now I pass this story on to you all. This is my snapshot of my first real play experience.

feel free to keep it a secret so now i pass this story on to you all this is my snapshot of my first real play experience feel free to share it as a listener snapshot if you would like oh my gosh yeah real life i know i'm telling you yep okay so you go first since you have two okay so mine is about the beach okay shocker shocker right so i think it was saturday yeah it was saturday night and we went to this place in myrtle beach called the marsh walk it's um it's like a little fishing village and there's like maybe like nine restaurants connected by a boardwalk it's not right on the ocean it's literally like an inlet with this marsh there's like grass growing in the water everywhere but it's beautiful and there's these nine restaurants connected by this boardwalk and we ate at our favorite restaurant that we eat every time we go down there had a lovely dinner the weather was perfect was perfect.

There was a full moon. Remember you, Mr. Jones actually got up a couple times during dinner to go take a picture of the moon because it was, the moon had risen and it was right behind a palmetto tree. Yeah. Right over the water and it was just gorgeous.

So anyway, we thoroughly enjoyed enjoyed our dinner it just kind of set the tone for the like the super like relaxed chill evening we were enjoying this music and having great conversation so after that we went back to our hotel room and by that time it was dark out and the moon had really risen and it was full and the ocean was like glass that night so the moon was shining on the water and it could not have been more beautiful out on the balcony. And Mr. Jones was standing on the balcony, like right at the railing, and I was sitting in a chair behind him.

And I just remember tapping you on the shoulder, because you stood there for a long time. I think you were just really relaxed and enjoying the view. So after a while, I was like, hmm, I'm ready to to get the party started so i tapped you on the shoulder and you turned around and you were like what so i just started unbuttoning your shirt and i just completely undressed you there on the uh on the balcony yep and then i think i gave you a pretty good blow job you did yeah? Yeah. How was it rated? Was it noteworthy? Of course. I mean, you had that little ocean breeze blowing.

That had to have been really nice for you. Yeah. So it worked because then the next thing I knew, my clothes were off. Yeah. And we were having, there a, like a high top table out there and you had me bent over the high top table and you're going to town, which was not easy because if you've never met us, Mr. Jones is 11 inches taller than me. So for us to have standup sex, it is not easy.

It just like logistically it it doesn't fit well so i just remember i was on my absolute tippy toes and you were having a squat down but we made it work yeah it was hot so then after it actually probably didn't take us very long again we we had a lot of pent-up energy to get out. So then when you came, here's my snapshot. When you came, you started painting your forehead on my back. Yeah. And I was like, hmm. I don't think you've ever done that before. Not that we have sex in that position very often.

But we do like doggy style sex so again your head is like on my back and I just don't remember you ever banging your head on on my back before do I need to I mean I don't know what to say I'm not sure if that's a positive snapshot or not well I I remember laughing afterwards like after it was all over yeah i started laughing i was like why were you banging your head on my back well because there's an 11 inch difference and you were standing up yeah doggy style your head is all the way down on the pillow true there's a 90 degree angle between your head and mine and bed well i was standing right behind you yeah i know my know.

My head was right behind you. Yeah. Yeah. And I can't help what my body does when I have an orgasm. It was quite the earthquake. Just like you can't help all the, what do you call them, buffalo noises you make when you have an orgasm. Yeah, it was quite the earthquake. I mean, like, I thought there was gonna be like a tsunami warning or something. We were right there on the ocean. Yeah. Good. Okay. Is it my turn? Yeah. So we had a chance recently to be with a couple that we first met at Desire a couple of years ago. Yeah.

And as much as we preach about being social swingers and about getting to know somebody first, when we met this couple at Desire a couple of years ago, it was instant chemistry. Instant. Instant chemistry. Yeah. And we had intended on playing that night at Desire, but they couldn't that night. They had to leave, but they promised to come back.

and when they came back two days later and we did play it was speaking of the earth moving it was four-way chemistry which rarely happens to a couple that you really don't know it for some reason it was just there it's unexplainable right we and there was a 48-hour build-up yes there was a 48-hour buildup, and we were with them, and they couldn't stay, and that was frustrating, and then we just thought about it for two days, and when they came back, it was amazing. Yes.

Well, we hadn't seen them for two years, and we've been meaning to get to their part of the country, and we were able to do that last month. Yeah. So two days versus two years. Yes. So anyway, the four of us got a condo on a beach and reconnected. And it was like the chemistry just reignited as soon as they walked into the bar where we were. Yeah. Like we really didn't spend that much time with them when we first met them. And then two years goes by, so you're thinking, oh, this could end up being a little awkward. It wasn't at all. So here's my elongated snapshot.

First of all, this woman is absolutely just, she's gorgeous. She has an amazing body. Yes. And she has what I would call a signature move. And that is, first of all, she's very flexible. Yeah. So when she's in the missionary position, she can actually take her legs and do the splits. They go wide open with her knees straight. Yeah. And I've never seen another woman do anything like that before except for in the Olympics. I am not flexible. Let's just say that. Well, she did this two years ago when we were with them the first time. But this time, my snapshot happened when Mrs.

Jones, armed with her strap-on, you were using your strap-on on her. Yes, I was. And she did her signature move as her husband and I were just speechless standing there watching. It was pretty quiet in the room, yeah. And I think you told me that that was the most amazing strap-on experience that you've had so far because she was so much participant. She was an equal participant. Well, she wrapped, so we were missionary, I guess. I guess that's what it was.

she was on the bottom and i was on the top yeah and she wrapped her legs around me and she after she did her signature move yeah yeah right she did that and then but then she wrapped her ankles together around my back so and that's what i do like that's why i like the missionary position because i do that i'll wrap my legs around a guy and then I'll pull myself up as he's thrusting into me right um I mean, I've always done that with you. That's just kind of, I think that's why I like missionary so much, because I can participate that way. Well, she did that to me. Yeah.

And nobody's ever done that to me before when I've had the strap-on on. And I was like, damn, this is amazing. So after we watched you two, and then you went with him and I went with her, she and I had a really good time together, and she did that signature move again for me. Yes. And we...

I did manage to notice that as I was totally engrossed in what i was doing with her husband oh my gosh and her husband said um well there she goes there she goes and that's what i do with you when you're about sometimes you're about to have an orgasm you have like a very you have a signature sound that you make and your body starts to do a certain thing and i sometimes i'll i'll be with another woman and i'll say here she goes she's about to blow gonna blow he did the same thing with her when she did her signature move but anyway when she did that and she opened her legs wide it never experienced it before but it's it's amazing that she can do that number one but it's just so damn sexy yes everything about her is really sexy oh my goodness I didn't last very much longer after that but anyway you guys are fantastic hopefully we're going to see them again soon and it's just interesting because like I said sometimes you can't explain it sometimes the chemistry is just there and you just know it.

And that's only happened a couple of times with us. Yeah. I mean, we have some really good friends that we've tried and trued, but those friendships took a little bit of time to develop. This chemistry was pretty much instant. So that was a lot of fun.

And they're really nice people that are fun to be with they are yes okay so here's your bonus snapshot oh i get a bonus yay so speaking of really good friends um we had really good friends coming to town and then we had some local friends um so we ended up with a party of six um out, out and about doing some brewery hopping, I think on a really nice summer Saturday and just had a really good relaxing time. We had, we all knew each other.

Um, so it was fun to kind of reconnect and, um, we ended up back at our house and the thing that makes this noteworthy in my mind is it kind of ties into our whole happy place theme tonight, because one of the couples we had played with before, they're a full swap couple, we're a full swap couple. And there's just a really good, comfortable connection among the four of us. And we have just really sexy, hot playtime together. And it's very easy because we're all just very compatible. That elusive four-way connection is totally there.

Well, the third couple, we've known for a while, but we've never played with them before. And they have a somewhat different play style. They're a soft swap couple. They really don't interact with other people. They like to be in sexy situations with other people, but they really don't swap as a couple. So somehow the six of us made that work extremely well that night. And it was just so much fun. And actually, you know, I was a little concerned about it, that everybody would be comfortable and happy. And thank goodness for our massage tables.

Well, I was going to say, you can't just say it worked out.

You have say it worked out you have to give some details that's the whole idea of a snapshot right so it started out on the massage table and um i think all three ladies ended up on there at some point and and that was very comfortable i mean massage table is a very like non-threatening way for people to interact with one another yeah um so so we all did that and um to kind of make a long story short there may or may not have been a a jewel butt plug involved for 90 minutes for 90 minutes it it's just it was just good clean fun i guess well so what mrs jones is not telling you is the six of us were in there um the the couple that is a soft swap couple we gave her a massage yes we all gave her a massage and and she was the last one on the table they got so turned on by that that when the four of us left to go into the other room they stayed in there and they had sex on the massage table while the four of us were in the playroom but it was so funny i wish somebody could have taken a picture of this so they were oh yeah they were in our massage room like fucking on the massage table and it was super hot and we could hear them and we knew what they were doing so one by one the four of us start peeking around the corner through the doorway to watch them have sex on the massage table and it was just like i don't know the four stooges like our heads were all like stacked up on one of one on top of the other there's four of us yeah yeah they are going to town they could have not cared less about who was watching them at this point and all four of us all four we're all naked and the four of us are like like stacked up in the doorway like being voyeurs watching right our friends have sex which was it was so much fun and then we ended up going into the playroom which is just kind of around the corner and the four of us started playing and then our friends had finished on the massage table and then they came in and like and then they started having sex on the floor yeah like right next to the bed where the four of us were playing well that's why sometimes six is better than four six six allows you the diversity that you need to mix and mingle and interact and not have that pressure that you have with just four yeah so i So I think it was a perfect environment for them.

It was. And they had a good time and we enjoyed watching them. Yeah, for sure. That was super fun. But, you know, at first glance, like on paper, you would think, oh, two full swap couples and kind of a not even hardly soft swap couple. How is that going to work? Well, it worked perfectly. It did. Everybody was just, I think we were all good enough friends that we were like, this is where we are and this is what we want to do and we all made it work. It was pretty hot. Yeah. Yeah, so thank you guys.

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I'm a reluctant model. Yeah. Sorry. And that just opened the floodgates. Yeah. And there were pictures all afternoon around a certain theme. It was a lot of fun. It was. Yeah. So join our community. You can go to our website and find us there. Yep. Please continue to email us. We'd love to get your emails. You can email me at MrJones, M-R-J-O-N-E-S, at WeGotAThing, W-E-G-O-T-T-A-T-H-I-N-G.com, or MrsJones, M-R-S-J-O-N-E-S, at WeGotAThing, W-E-G-O-T-T-A-T-H-I-N-G.com or MrsJones, M-R-S-J-O-N-E-S at WeGotAThing.com Our website is WeGotAThing.com and you can follow us on Twitter at WeGotAThing.

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