Episode 44: The Evolution of the Lifestyle

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This podcast contains explicit language and content and is for mature audiences only. Hey you teenagers out there, if you're under 18, this show is more for your parents. So now that you have that mental picture stuck in your head, put some music on and get back to doing your homework. We are a long-time married couple who's decided to chronicle our personal adventures and share our sex-positive discussions as we navigate our way through the swinging lifestyle. Care to join us? Hello, everyone. I'm Mr. Jones. And I'm Mrs. Jones. So we'll see overdid it. Yeah.

It took a while to catch up on my sleep. Yeah, we kind of overdid it. Yeah. Sleep management is something I am not good at. Yeah. Well, I think we both suffered from fear of missing out disease. Yeah, FOMO. While we were there. Yeah, it was so much fun, though. Yeah, it was. Better than we had imagined. Absolutely. So we just want to thank everybody that came along with us. Thanks for trusting us. Thanks for being good sports. And thanks for just being your sexy selves. Yeah. So now we're back home and we survived Thanksgiving. And we are getting for the holidays.

And, um, in the spirit of the holidays, I'm having a pretty white martini. It doesn't look like candy cane. It's not a candy cane. It's kind of like, you know, the best of both worlds because it's a coconut martini. Somebody had one at Desire on the last day of the trip, and I tasted it on the very last day and never got to have one of my own. So I came home on a quest to find a recipe for a coconut martini. So I think I've done it. Oh, good for you. But I have it in a glass with green on it, so it looks very Christmassy. It's tasty. Good for you. I'm drinking wine. You're boring. I know.

Well, where do we go from here? Well, I think that our big announcement is that our course is live. Yeah, we talked at length in episode 43 at the beginning about the details of our Navigating Your Lifestyle Journey online lifestyle course and it's live it's launched you can find it on our website everything seems to be working properly and we've had some purchases yeah we tested it out with a group of early bird requesters this past week and things went well so far so good keeping our fingers crossed and inviting the rest of you to visit our website and take a look.

Let us know what you think. I know. I'm really excited about people starting to join the forum already and starting to make those connections. That's going to be really cool. Yeah. All of a sudden we don't have much to do. I know. Because we worked a lot on that. I know. I am so sick of making those videos. We already have a long list of ideas to add to it. That's right. It will definitely be a living document. It'll be a work in progress for sure for us. Definitely. Yeah. So that is pretty much wrapped up. Yeah.

And I think what we're going to do in either January or February is go on the road with a meet and greet and possibly a workshop we talked with our friend katherine from episode 41 on jealousy yes and she's interested in partnering with us and she's got some great ideas for additional things that we can talk about with her and i'm just some really cool ways to get information out to you guys yeah so we're going to do a do a proof-of-concept trip, and we're going to do a meet-and-greet on Friday night and take a couple of topics from our course, and then hopefully Catherine can present a couple of items on Saturday day.

Then we'll have an afternoon happy hour and let people make their own party on Saturday night. That's right. So stay tuned for that.

We've got to figure out out where we're gonna launch our first one and and hopefully it'll it'll just be the first one of many yeah yeah so we'll be able to do a little bit of traveling yeah and speaking of meet and greets we hosted another local meet and greet yeah it's probably two weeks before we went to pearl yeah so that was really fun it was we had a lot of different people show up this time then showed up at the first one although we had some some of the same folks come so it was a real nice mix of uh new friends and friends that we had met before so yeah so we're going to try to continue to do local meet and greets quarterly um so look for one of those again in spring and we'll announce that again and we'll have'll have it on our website.

I think we're going to do sign-ups on our website this time. Yeah. So our big trip. Yeah, desire. It was everything I'd hoped it would be.

Yeah, after 16 months of waiting, anticipating, planning, hoping, and then having a lot of people show up and and enjoy the week with us it was it was a lot of fun it was a little overwhelming i think yeah just the way things went but you know it was i was probably just as nervous this trip as i was the very very first time we went to desire yeah i mean we had a lot of people that were trusting us that this was not going to be a debacle, that they were going to come down here and have fun and not be overwhelmed and meet some sexy new friends and make some connections.

And, um, I think after the first day, all of our fears were put aside. Oh, totally. Yeah. some of the highlights uh speed dating was one we had a cocktail party the second night we were there and that was a lot of fun we passed out some goodie bags and from what i understand the bud plugs were a tremendous hit thank you cnd yeah uh you brought along about a million tattoos. No, it was only a thousand. That was the minimum order. And you were pretty, you were pretty sly, strategic the way that you were.

I waited to the end of the week, you know, but then, you know, when you put a temporary tattoo on somebody, you know, you have to kind of take like a wet washcloth. So I i did it in the pool so i had a washcloth out of the ladies room that they use to dry your hands with so i snuck it out of there and and i was like going around asking people if i could put tattoos either on like their shoulder or their on their um arm or maybe like their boob so i had to hold it there for like 30 seconds. Well, what are you going to do for 30 seconds? Yeah, I was watching what you were doing.

You were kissing everybody. It was a good way to get to know people. I hope you asked permission. I did most of the time. Yeah, so that was a highlight. One of the other highlights was before we went, we podcasted about the seven swinger sexy sins. Seven sexy swinger sins. Yeah. And I think, I don't know what night it was. It was probably night, maybe five. I think it was like Wednesday night. I broke six of them. Well, we broke six of them.

I didn't get drunk, but I think I broke all the other ones yeah yeah you and I actually that was the one thing we did do a good job on is we managed our alcohol intake well yeah um but yeah that night was just a train wreck for you and I yeah well I was trying to do too many things I you know when you get in the hot tub and you go, go to get a drink and, you know, you run into somebody, you know, and then you run into somebody, you know, so I didn't get a lot of continuity. I didn't get a lot of conversations going on for any period of time before I was flooding off to somebody else.

I know, but one of those couples that you flitted away from, I know, we, yeah, honey, we called the, pulled the trigger right then and there and gone back up to our room. I know. We could have gotten on a jacuzzi bed. We could have done whatever. I know. Well, I think there's a date in our future to make up for that. Yes, there is. Thank goodness they were very understanding. You're going to absolve me of my sins. Yes. Yeah, so that was fun.

We did the yoni and the lingam lingam massage richard and lauren were there yes and they did an extra session for us and sure enough the first one was sold out about 20 minutes before it was supposed to start 30 minutes 30 minutes yeah because we thought we were getting there early and they were like oh no the doors have been closed for a long time. Right. So we got in on the second Yoni massage. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. That was more than a lot of fun. That was amazing because you and I went to it on Thursday. So our week was winding down, and we were exhausted.

And it was just, and you and I were so busy because we were doing so much socializing and you were in a lot of meetings with the management and desire to make sure things were going well and to kind of plan trips for next year. So you and I were like apart a lot. And that hour that we spent in that massage was so meaningful.

It just completely re-centered you and i and brought us back together yep and um and it was amazing well you know what i remember i remember that the last three couples we were one of the last three couples to leave the massage room yeah we were the three oldest couples there yes we were we were showing them youngins how to do it that's right and you know it was really so what they do is they put Thank you. We were the three oldest couples there. Yes, we were. We were showing them youngins how to do it. That's right.

And, you know, it was really, so what they do is they put mattresses in the disco and some of the mattresses are like double size mattresses and then some of them are king size mattresses. So when you walk in, they say, if you are gravitating towards a king size mattress, just be aware that you're probably going to have to share with somebody if, um, if the class fills up. So, um, we had friends that we just met them, um, that week, but we had really connected with them and they were just a really solid, easy going couple and just so much fun to, to talk to and hang around with.

And they walked in and they ended up sharing the bed with us. And that was actually really hot. It was almost, you're not interacting with other couples during the yoni massage or the lingam massage, but just to have that depth of experience near people that you know. And there's just like a synergy when you're having sex in a room full of people that you've hung out with all week. And even though nobody was like interacting other than with their own partner, it was just so hot to experience that collectively.

Yeah, speaking of hot, we were in the flunge pool, you know, on our balcony one night. The water was a little warm, but that was towards the end of the week too. It was the same night.

I think i might have passed out yeah it was thursday that was the same night yeah yeah we had a lot of friends come back um and and just enjoyed being out in the evening yeah you ordered like three or four or five pizzas and um we had a couple bottles of wine set up and and we just yeah after the disco we just had like what six or eight couples yeah come back to um our room and and it was just a beautiful night i remember getting an awesome foot massage and then yes i remember making out with the young lady next to me and then the next thing i know, somebody was waking me up because I stayed in the hot tub a little bit too long.

Yep. We were all looking at the stars and we were all kind of just winding down. And we just let everybody let themselves wind down too much, I guess. So, yeah, there were missed opportunities there. Yes, and I met a new friend playing volleyball. She's very competitive, so we had some back and forth. Some back and forth. There was a little bit more than back and forth. There was a lot of smack talk. There was a lot of smack talk. There was a lot of fun. So, what was the score? I think they beat us. Yeah?

Yeah were humbled huh yeah i was humbled it was a lot of fun but i only played volleyball one day yeah that's true for some reason we kept sleeping in yeah i kept missing it well then we would have meetings like at that time it was very yeah right and then probably the most embarrassing night of my life was on BDSM night oh yeah yeah on a fetish night the um resort does a like a Chippendale contest and they get like five or six men to come up on stage and and like a little striptease for everybody. Yeah, and I was coerced into participating. Oh, you knew ahead of time.

I warned you that I was going to bully you into it. Well, I hardly had any clothes on at all. I felt naked. Yeah, you looked pretty hot. You have a nice ass, honey. I don't know. And everybody got to see it that night yeah i know but i didn't realize until i got up on the stage that you're supposed to do a strip tease and i didn't have anything on i mean i had thong underwear on underneath and then i had these clunky boots and i was sitting there thinking how am i going to get my shorts off these boots i'm going to up.

I'm going to try to pull these shorts off and I'm going to trip and fall, make an ass of myself. No, you handled it splendidly. What he did, ladies, he, he was dancing around in this little like fake leather booty shorts.

And then when it was time to strip, he kind of pulled his shorts down a little bit and then he laid down on the ground on his back and he put his feet towards a lady because all the ladies were sitting around the stage you know around the perimeter of the stage so we were all like right there and um and he laid down and just held his feet up his legs straight out and his feet up and a lady reached down and just took his shorts and went like right off over your boots it was perfect yeah the only good thing that came out of that was i think i made about 35 dollars of people's seven dollar bills in my it was 31 but that's okay that wasn't bad yeah because then you had little sexy underwear on under the fake leather booty shorts and so not only did i lose a volleyball i lost that competition too yeah you would think look i was the host of the week people could have just been a little bit nicer i kept losing no and you'll you'll hear more from the winner uh later in the podcast it was a well-deserved win honey he did a good job it was all five of you did a good job yep yeah kudos to you guys for having the guts to get up there yeah and the the other thing that i'll not forget from this weekend was we had good friends that were there and they she shared with us a fantasy yes she did that she requested that we help her fulfill and then they had to leave yes and that's all i could think about as a matter of fact i've thought about it quite a bit since we've been home too and they don't live anywhere near us no so we're gonna have to figure out a way airplanes go there though to fulfill that fantasy.

Yeah. Well, no, it, it did exactly what it was supposed to do. It left you hanging. So now we're motivated to visit. Yeah. Those were some of the highlights. I guess what we can say is that we met so many people, um, and we're going to talk more about the experience in just a bit, but we don't want to get into trying to remember people because we'll forget. But there were just so many people that we connected with and that trusted us enough to come along. And we just had a wonderful week and so much so that we've got two scheduled for next year. And a cruise.

And a cruise that we can talk about a little bit later. So thank you guys for coming along. Thanks for giving of yourselves for the week and for trusting us and bringing your A-games because there was a lot of people connecting. People had a really good time. Yeah, for sure. So when we come back, we are going to talk about tonight's topic and we haven't even talked about the title of the podcast yet mr jones i know so tonight's episode is titled what the world needs now the evolution of the lifestyle i know so stay tuned and we'll explain it.

Welcome back to segment two and the title of tonight's podcast again is what the world needs now the evolution of lifestyle so i got another song title in there on you mr jones i know so what do you mean by this well what the world needs now is love sweet love um the world kind of needs that now because it kind of feels like society is moving backwards. So many negative things are going on in every arena of life that you hear on the news.

And at the same time, you and I just had this, well, you and I and 80 other couples had this amazing experience where we escaped reality, we escaped the media, we escaped society and just went to this magical place where we were able to be our authentic selves. And we got to watch how the lifestyle, when done right, it's like a societal evolution where people are becoming their more authentic selves. Yeah. And I just keep thinking, gosh, if everybody could just own themselves the way we do when we're at a resort with no clothes on, then, gosh, the world would just have to be a better place.

Yeah. And this is a very, this is a common thing. I just listened to Life on the Swing Sets podcast when they were at Desire RM the week before. Right. You know, and this re-entry into the real world, even though there are some things going on in the world, being at Desire for a week makes it that much of a stark difference when you come home. I know. So we're going to talk about the differences and the dynamics and the environments here and talk about how we see the lifestyle evolving. Yeah. And I think it started at Pearl. I don't know whether it was our second or our third day there.

And you and I were walking from our room to the hot tub. Right, it was like happy hour time. Right, and we got about 10 or 15 feet away from the hot tub, and this is before you come through the entryway to the hot tub, and all you could hear was just a buzz of noise, just people talking. Talking and laughing. And the water bubbling. Yep.

Yeah yeah and so we came through and we stopped when we got a view of the tub and those of you who have not been to pearl the hot tub holds at least a hundred and or so people oh yeah it's huge and it was crammed full i mean yeah because you and i walked over to the cubbies to take our coverups off and stick our flip flops in there. And, and I'm standing there taking my coverup off and looking at the hot tub and there was, I was literally looking around for like an easy access point because it was full and I'm looking and I started crying.

I mean, which sounds so stupid, but I was just so overwhelmed with emotion because, you know, most of the people in that hot tub had come to desire because they listened to either, you know, our podcast or The Curious Couple or Swinging Down Under. And they were all there connected with that commonality. And it was just beautiful because everybody was getting along and having a goodality and it was just beautiful because everybody was getting along and having a good time and everybody was just laughing and they were mostly naked and just being their authentic selves. Yeah.

It's hard to, you know, there was an emotion there. So I mean, it doesn't surprise me that you started crying because that, that happens quite a bit. I know I cry when I watch the Brady Bunch. I know. But, Ha each other and we were watching you know real people interacting with each other and it all looked very natural everybody was just relaxed. It was genuine and very inviting. You just wanted to jump in and grab the first group that you saw and join in the conversation. Yeah. It was amazing. Then we had to come home. Yeah.

So contrasting that particular feeling, that particular environment, that particular our atmosphere, which we saw all week, but it was really that hot tub experience where it really jumped out at us. Right. Yeah, so then we came home.

And, you know, we come home, you turn on the news, or you open up your iPad, and there's another high-profile man being accused of sexual misconduct in the workplace yeah and and it's just you know men using their power to have such sexual encounters with women whether they're successful at that or not they're using their power to coerce women into having sexual encounters with them, which is the exact opposite of what we just saw in Mexico.

And then you see these women on the news that have, or maybe you don't see them, maybe they haven't come forward yet, but these women have either succumbed to or maybe hopefully rebuffed these advances from these powerful men. And for a period of time, sometimes it's years and years and years, they remained silent because they felt like they had no voice to speak up and say something. You know, either they would lose their jobs or they would never work in a particular industry again, or they would lose their reputations because they don't think people would believe them. Yeah.

I mean, living in an environment where you feel like you have no choice, because any choice that you make is going to impact you potentially in a negative way instead of the person who actually was in the wrong. Right. And, you know, so like sexual misconduct in the workplace is beginning to appear to be much more prevalent than we realize just because it's coming out now. Unfortunately, I think it's been there all along, you know, and there's these powerful men that are like falling at this rapid rate now that women are gaining more independence and they're gaining more courage.

And because there's more women speaking up, there's momentum now where more and more women are coming forward to speak up and call out these men that have been abusing their power all along to, to use their sexuality to control women. Yeah. And there's a lot of, since there are so many women coming out and standing up for themselves that other women are gaining confidence because of that. And so we anticipate that this is going to continue because like you said, there's no statute of limitations on this. Some of this occurred 20 or 30 or 40 years ago.

And so you know we expect that you know all i think the the perception is is that it's getting worse as far as men being predators but really it's just being reported yeah right you know it's been going on all along um and and anyway that we're seeing this every day so we came home from this environment where you know everybody was respectful for the most part then and getting along and connecting men and women and then you boom you're faced with this you know well you know I, you know what it was that struck me was men in a business suit, getting a woman someplace private and then using his power or, or the fact that he's got her cornered somewhere to expose himself to her.

You know, drops his drawers and whips out his penis and wants her to do something with it. And now she's in this predicament. So I'm contrasting that in my head to being in the hot tub with those 100 other people. Everybody's naked. There's penises everywhere. There's penises everywhere. There's boobs everywhere. And you're trying to slide by people to get to the bar at the end of the hot tub to get another drink, and you're like, oh, excuse me, pardon me.

And literally there are penises brushing up against my butt because men are trying to scoot by me to go get a drink and I don't think anything of it because, you know, they'll pat me on the shoulder and say, excuse me, you know, it's kind of crowded around here and there's no ill intent there whatsoever. Right. And it's all done with humor and it's done with respect. Right just that blows my mind to be in that environment for a whole week and then come home to this again and it's just so sad you know if people could and you know what before we go on I need to kind of tell my story.

I had actually forgotten that I had an incident of sexual misconduct in the workplace when I was in my twenties. And it didn't even like, I didn't even like connect the dots until that hashtag me too came out, um, in the, in the summertime. So then I was like, Oh my gosh, I have a Me Too. So I was in my 20s, and I was working in the finance industry, and my financial institution was being audited by the government. So there was a government auditor that was spending probably a couple, three weeks in our area, and he was obviously asking for information.

And my job was to be the liaison, so I had to get him whatever he needed. Well, he was in a conference room down the hall, and it had one of those big old conference tables in it.

And he would ask for stuff, and I would have to take it into him and one he he would used to flirt with me a lot and I would just kind of shake it off and and it never really made me feel like super uncomfortable and I was married at this time and I mean we had our two girls so one day he asked for something stupid like post-it notes and And I was super because I mean I had a job to do and I didn't appreciate having to take him post-it notes so I did and I walked in the conference room with the post-it notes and he was in the back corner and he said oh can you bring those to me so I'm like gnashing my teeth and I walked them back there and then he stood up and he put his hand on my forearm and he said, do you have plans for dinner tonight?

And I was like, uh, well, yeah, I have to cook dinner for my husband and my two children. And he was like, you know, I can make you a lot, a lot happier than your husband could possibly make you.

And I was like, oh, well, um, I'm not, you know, I don't even know what you're supposed to say to that i was just like uh no and i left and um i was kind of shaken up and and i somebody one of my girlfriends at work asked me to go to lunch and i i kind of snapped at her and blew her off because i was really irritated and kind of really thrown off center by his comment well he had come between you and the door yeah he had kind of blocked me in there right um and i just i was kind of rude to him and said no and i left and um and i was pretty rattled and my girlfriend was like well what's wrong with you why are you in such a bad mood and i told her and she said did you tell our boss about that and I said well no I said nothing happened and she was like well if you don't tell our boss I'm going to so I was like well okay so I told our boss and my boss was a female at that time she was like 15 years older than me so she was either my like my big sister or my second mom she was just like blown away that this had happened.

And the next day, to make a long story short, the next day the auditor was gone. And I walked in in the morning and didn't even realize the auditor was gone yet. And I got called into the president's office, the president of my financial institution. And I had never been in there before.

because because i was just a little 20 something peon at that point in time and he let me have it he was he was like you don't ever let a man talk to you that way he said that man is gone he will never be back in this building um he had no right to talk to you like that and you need to stand up for yourself because i guess it all came out that I wasn't going to say anything and that my co-worker made me say something and he was he was really like you know nobody talks to you that way and I don't know I so I I guess at the age of 20 something I had enough of a backbone to say something to somebody.

Maybe I didn't do exactly the right thing. So I really feel for these women. That was kind of a long winded story. But I really feel for these women because you don't know what's appropriate or not appropriate. This was a government auditor. And I felt like if I made him mad, he would do something bad. And then our and then, you know, my, my bank would look bad. Yeah, and you also had a very good culture in your institution. And so when they found out about it, there was no question about it. Yeah, they believed me.

Yeah, they believed you and they took care of it, where a lot of organizations are not like that.

And so that goes a long way to creating an environment where people men or women are not comfortable speaking up and you know i wonder now because when i when i think i've thought about that a lot lately because that just kind of clicked with me a few weeks ago and you know i've i've never um been afraid in lifestyle situations and I don't know, I don't know what it is inside of me, but I guess I'm fortunate that, um, I've always been confident in my ability to know what's right and what's wrong as far as like my comfort level and, and whether or not I want to give consent.

So I don't know how I ended up with that inside of me, but I guess I'm very thankful for that.

Well, you have a, you found your voice early, you know, and, and we have noticed that there are men and women in the lifestyle that even in the, even in the culture of as comfortable as a lifestyle have a hard time finding their voice yeah you know even if the man is respectful if he didn't ask consent or if there's some getting in somebody's personal space you know you still need to find that voice whether you're the man or the woman you know and just ask hey you know can you give me some space here or i'm not comfortable with this right you know so even you know as i can't imagine then how hard it would be in an environment a professional environment where you know the culture doesn't support that because a lot of people just are not they're not like you and you're you're just wired for whatever reason you're you're wired that.

You found your voice early. I know, I know. And I guess the thing is, is I just find it to be so ironic that these powerful men that have affairs and these powerful men that use their power to sexually control women, that seems to be the norm. don't like it but it doesn't seem to be out of the norm yeah it's not because we've all experienced it right you know a lot of it goes unspoken and you know everybody for the most part knows that it's wrong and we just don't stand up to it like we should. You know, and that goes for men as well.

And, you know, you contrast that, I think where you were going, is that... Like swinging uses clear communication. We ask for consent. We are respectful towards one another. And those attributes are like the backbone of swinging. Right. But swinging is deviant and morally wrong in our society. Well, and that's what we were called. Yes. Yes, it was. I mean, when we were outed, you know, the people used the word predator with us and they used the word satanic. Yes. And they used the word disgusting. Yes.

You know, and here we are in an environment like desire or other lifestyle situations where men and women are respectful of each other, there's a level of trust, there's a lot of communication, there's consensual touching, and if there's not, there's an opportunity for clear communication to correct it. Here we are behaving that way, yet people in society are calling us these deviant names. And they think our sexual experiences are like impulsive and thoughtless. Right. And, you know, with careless, I'm trying to think of all the words that people can throw at the lifestyle.

Yeah, impulsive, thoughtless, careless careless um yeah just not concerned not thinking just just reacting and acting in a sexual way right that's the perception right yeah so i think social swingers would disagree with that description yeah i think most of the people that um that we much more thoughtful and careful about the decisions they make with their lifestyle experiences. Yeah, and I think when you think about these guys, when you think about how we are programmed, as we're growing up, you know, our parents are teaching us to behave a certain way and not to do this and not to do that.

And for the most part, we comply because they're an authority figure. And then our workplace is telling us how to behave. There's policies and there's how you behave with the opposite sex. And then government puts in regulations to control some of that. And then our churches influence us on how we are to act and how we are not to act. And all of these different entities socially are influencing how we respond and how we are supposed to respond. And how we are supposed to respond and not respond is sometimes based on a rule or a regulation, and it may not be based on anything human at all.

And so we never get the opportunity to understand who we are as people. If we're simply doing what we are trained to do and programmed to do, the one thing that the lifestyle I've learned has given me the opportunity to do is to not have those restrictions or those thoughts about what I can do and what I can't do. You're put into a hot tub, back to our illustration, full of people with no clothes on, as you mentioned, and all of the rules are out the window, but the foundational rules are there automatically. It's like you're a human being. I'm going to respect you.

I'm going to communicate with you. I'm going to appreciate your beauty, but I'm not going to abuse the fact that I have access to it. So these are things as a man I'm able to explore without the worry of who is looking over my shoulder or am I going to get sued for this or is somebody going to file a complaint against me? And likewise, the woman, I mean, from your perspective, I mean, you get to do the same thing. Right. I know. I, you know, you, you get to have fun and you get to flirt and you don't have to worry about how people are perceiving you. Oh, you know, she's a, she's a slut. Right.

And if you think about your relationship, if, if I was told that like inserting something like prostate stimulation, let's just call it that, you know, you're a guy, you don't put things up there you know if I'm told that then I think it's wrong and then if I have this urge or I have this thought when I get older I don't even have the freedom to express that interest to you because because I've already been told that that's bad and that's wrong and so I don't even feel like it's something that I can mention to you because you're gonna think towards me how other people that taught me that was wrong are going to think towards me.

And so these men end up in these situations and they don't, they've never had an honest communication about their sexual desires with their spouse or anybody else. But can I back up the train? You think I'm going to respond the way everybody else would respond. Right. Because I don't trust the relationship. Because if my feeling is that I don't have the freedom to say it, or I'm embarrassed or ashamed to admit it, then I'm going to think that you're going to be ashamed for me. Right. But I'm saying that might not be the case, but you would never test that theory. That's my point.

That's my point. I would never test it because my assumption is that you would be ashamed of me or you would think that it's wrong. But yet in the lifestyle, when you're open and you're honest with other couples and you explore these things with each other, I don't have that worry anymore. I can say, does it sound crazy to you? You know, I'm thinking about having somebody put something up my butt. Now you might laugh at me, or you might say, oh, well, tell me more about that. But at least I feel like I have the freedom to bring it up. I don't feel like that I can't talk.

And in that hot tub at Desire, especially with the butt plugs being passed around I mean, that's, that's, I'm making light of it, but that's the kind of conversations that you have with other people. These, these are not how's the weather, you know, kind of conversations that we're having. And so we in the lifestyle are able to explore. I'm able to explore myself. I feel like I have the freedom to think, hmm, I wonder what that would be like. Just like our friend who expressed the fantasy to us. I mean, our regular friends don't come to us and have these kinds of conversations.

So when somebody feels like they have the freedom to come to us and say, hey, you know, we really trust you guys. Next time we're together, what do you think about doing this? I mean, that is so sexy. Right. I mean, to share their deepest, darkest fantasies. Oh my gosh. And it's such a trusting thing. When somebody can tell me something like that it's, it makes me feel good.

I mean, the, the sexual part of it aside, if I can possibly put that aside, the fact that somebody thinks enough of us or me to, to mention that, you know, just as another example of how this lifestyle is evolving us, me as an individual and us as a couple.

Well, yeah, and I mean, like we talked to people about, we heard a couple amazing origin stories last week and just people like really getting into the lifestyle for some very specific reasons, you know, the specific fantasies and desires they were trying to fulfill and they would share those stories with us and that's just so amazing right so so if we can talk about things like that we're not going to be talking about facebook stuff no you know the things is real life not facebook life yes not facebook phony stuff. You know, this is real stuff.

You know, the conversation that we have is just real. Yeah. And, you know, I think when people get in touch with themselves, like you were talking about, if you had this urge or this desire that you were afraid to share with me. And then when you finally get up the courage to, first of all, acknowledge that you have those feelings within yourself. So you're honest with yourself, right? Then you tell me about it. Well, what does that do to our relationship? Obviously it makes it deeper and it makes our relationship more authentic.

And then if you have the courage to share that kind of thing with me, then I'm more likely to be introspective within myself and then share back. Exactly. Exactly. And if you're going to be talking to another couple about what they like and what their play styles are, you'd better have already had the conversation with your own spouse. Right. Because you may find something new about your spouse and by a question somebody else asks. Yeah, oops. But, you know, then when you, as a couple, tell a spouse, you know, this is my fantasy, someday we're going to act upon it.

Or you might say, this is my fantasy. Would you guys be interested in helping us fulfill it? I mean, that's just open, honest communication. Whereas people in society, I'm back to these men in their power suits, on their power trips, they have these same urges and fantasies in their own heads, but they obviously don't know how to process those feelings. That's right. And they, for whatever reason, and I'm not saying they all have bad marriages or maybe they're not even married or I don't know.

I, you know, everybody's got a different situation, but for whatever reason, they have no outlet for that, that those feelings. So they just act impulsively using their power and their authority. And the irony is that would be the person that would call us deviance, even though the environment we're in is causing, is allowing us to, to proceed in a more healthy way. Right. Thank you.

the person that would call us deviants even though the environment we're in is causing is allowing us to to proceed in a more healthy way right yeah okay enough of that can we go back to the hot tub uh well one more thing okay I think it was Brene Brown who talked about um in the in the cortex or somewhere wired inside of us is the need to be connected or the need for community. Yes. And I think that's part of what we felt as we segue back to that hot tub. Well, people that are in positions of authority probably feel isolated. Right. Like in the workplace.

They probably feel emotionally isolated. Right, they do. And so they're missing that lack, they're missing that connection and they're missing that community. Thank you.

isolated right like in the workplace they probably feel emotionally isolated right they do and and so they're missing that lack they're missing that connection they're missing that community right and so this is the way that they're acting out to get it in a very obviously inappropriate way right so what they're yearning for is something they don't understand um yeah so let's get okay out of the deep water and get back to the hot tub all right so you go back to the hot tub with that same scenario, though. I mean, I don't know what those people did for a living that came to Desire with us.

I bet just some of them have pretty high-profile, pretty powerful jobs. Yeah, they probably do. But you know what? Nobody had a name tag on. Nobody had— There was no place to put one. I know, right?

Um, it it it didn't matter what you did for a living there nope um everybody was on an equal playing field and that and that's one really cool thing about the lifestyle is that there's really not a hierarchy right you know so guys guys weren't talking about football and jobs for the most part you You know, they're talking about things that are important and things that are they're interested in and things that they've experienced for the week.

And ladies, well, I mean, you know, I know you're going to talk about your kids for a short period of time, but you're not always talking about your kids. They're so stinking cute. You're talking about things that are, you know, they're just sexy things. You're confident and you're just proud being women and you can be yourselves. I know I, I had some, I had a couple conversations. I mean, I had amazing conversations all week long, but I remember one afternoon in the hot tub having a conversation with a lady and, um, you know, we were talking about, you know, changing the world.

I mean, just if we could change women's mindsets, you know, the, the, well, like you've said, women could rule the world. Yeah, definitely. Well, and men could too. And if we, if we would get past our, you know, in that back to the hot tub, there's no insecurities, there's no egos, there's nobody competing for attention. You know, I'm not trying to get somebody else's, you know, one up somebody in front of their wife. You know, we're just there respecting, you know, the natural beauty that's there before us.

And we're, and we're thankful, we're pinching ourselves thinking, Oh, my gosh, I can't believe how lucky we are. Look, our wives are letting us stand here in the middle of this tub with all these naked, sexy women around. You know, who wants to talk about football? You know, who cares about your job? None of that seems to be that important. Yeah, really.

And there's no gossipy friends, you know, sharing stories about neighbors and Pinterest and Bunko and, you know, all of that conversation that people are having judgmental, gossipy talk about just doesn't, it doesn't exist for the most part there. So I think that's what we're talking about. I know. It was incredible.

So instead of playing these familiar roles that we're assigned, you know, we're assigned, and we do have to play these roles, you know, we're husbands, we're fathers, we're employees, we're bosses, we're mothers, you know, we're parishioners, you know, when we attend church, you know, we play these roles, but we rarely get a chance to play the role or discover the role of who we really are. Right. I mean, it's so simple. I mean, you just get to be yourself. The lifestyle is about a deeper relationship with your partner. And of course, it's about better sex with our partners.

And of course, it's about having sexy fun times with other people because we did manage to do that a few times last week. We did. We talk about how much fun we had talking with people, but we did have some sexy fun. Yeah, we'll talk about that in a second. Yeah.

So don't miss out on the fact that the lifestyle affords all of us the opportunity to step out of these roles that we've been programmed to play so well in life and then we can begin to explore and discover for ourselves who we really are and this is not something that happens overnight this is a process right we've learned over the past four years what we thought was the lifestyle when we got into it is nothing near what we've experienced as we continue to grow. Right.

So, you know, to sum this whole thing up, one of the meetings we had when we were at Desire was with one of of the senior management staff and he was talking to us just about the lifestyle in general and about, and about, um, their resort and, and how they are finding more and more people drawn to this type of experience. And he said that the lifestyle mindset is growing rapidly now and that they are just working their best to try to keep up.

And, you know, that he says that as the lifestyle becomes more mainstream, that they expect the demand on the resorts to grow really, you know, much more quickly. Yeah. So we don't have a place like this. You know, we talk about desire a lot, but it's not really, I mean, they, they're a company and they do a good job. It's the concept. Right. It's the concept that they have. And the United States won't allow any of these concepts to occur.

No, not, not in the complete scope that they can do, you know, outside the.s right so yeah i mean i think that that just kind of like reinforces this whole evolution of lifestyle i mean they see the lifestyle becoming more mainstream um as far as more and more people are more willing to book this type of experience yes and the so so if the lifestyle could just evolve and become more mainstream in in general society to me that means that more and more people would be more authentic right and and more true to themselves therefore more true to others and these exhibitions of power plays that only end up hurting everyone involved, not just the woman, you know, if you're thinking about the powerful man preying upon a powerless woman, but, you know, both parties are hurt because that man obviously has something going on inside of him that he, that is manifesting itself in, in, and he's using his authority as an outlet.

Yeah. And same with women. I mean, I like the, what you said about finding your voice, um, use the lifestyle as an opportunity to find your voice. How many times do you get in the middle of a play style, a playtime and you let something happen. And afterwards you said, I don't know. voice. Um, use the lifestyle as an opportunity to find your voice. How many times do you get in the middle of a play style, a play time and you let something happen. And afterwards you said, darn, I wish I would have had the nerve to step. So women can use the lifestyle to grow too. I do find your voice.

I do find the lifestyle to be a very empowering place for me. Um, I'm, I'm allowed to express my desires and my fears. Um, whatever, whatever's in my head, it's allowed to come out and people listen to me and they, and they don't shy away from me. They talk to me about it, whether it's you or whether it's a girlfriend that I've made in the lifestyle or another couple that we're, that we're working with. It's just, it's a safe place. So we're going to do everything that we can to continue to be a part of that evolution. I hope so.

Whether it's trips we're going to take to Pearl next year or the cruise or whether it's our meet and greets or whether it's our course that we're offering now or whether it's the podcast or whether it's just meeting couples individually. And we hope that as you have these experiences yourselves as a couple, you know, that you'll join us because it's going to happen. When people are in this situation, they are going to experience the same things.

And we just have to have the confidence that, you know, over a period of time that someday when people discover this is what they do, they're not going to call us predators. I know. And, you know, the lifestyle is not perfect. You know, we make mistakes. You know, like I said, one night we managed to break six out of our seven sexy swinger sins. but, um, but, but again, we knew we were, um, floundering and we talked about it and we move forward. We don't hide things from each other. We don't hide things from ourselves. We process it and we move on.

And, and that's just, that's a nice way to be able to live life. And I, I find it very liberating. And I just really think that, you know, that is what the world needs now. More honest, open communication and more, I don't know, just more love. And I'm not necessarily talking about sex. I'm talking about respect and honest communication. But we can still have sex, right? Oh, yeah. Okay. With each other and maybe some other people every now and again. Well, speaking of that. Yes.

When we come back, we're going to quit all of this deep conversation about the future of the lifestyle and how it's evolving. And we're going to talk about sexy fun. I'll see you next time. Thank you.

welcome back to our snapshot segment um this is a desire snapshot and i'm i guess i'm gonna go first right yep um we did have some sexy fun we didn't fall asleep every night in the plunge pool and we didn't commit swingersons every night we didn't play every night no we didn't play every night like every other night yeah but we um we did have a very special evening on our last evening yeah um we uh did a, uh, C and D from swinging down under to get ready for this week. And, uh, there was a whole lot of planning and communication going on all along the way.

And then during the week, the four of us were really, um, involved in making sure that the games went off without a hitch and, and that everybody was getting all their goodie bags and that kind of stuff. So we were working. It goes back further than that. It goes back 16 months. Yeah. Yeah, it goes back further than that. It goes back 16 months, yeah. Yeah, because we met them in New Orleans and then we did the whole thing about I was worried that I was going to be too old for her. Right. So we did that whole shtick. Right. We had them in our hotel room in New Orleans and nothing happened.

Yeah. Yeah. So we continued to banter a little bit back and forth across the world and then flirt a little bit more and then um got even though there were some expectations i think they were four-way expectations yes yeah so when we got to desire we well there had even been a little uh short story written that's right about some fantasies that's right about this week's right. So this was a train that was coming down the tracks. Yes, it was. But we had to manage the week as hosts. And we also had to, you know, do a lot of meetings and logistics and run a lot of the stuff, too.

So we weren't quite sure how all this was going to fit together. Right. So go ahead. Sorry. And we had to make sure that this 16 months of expectations were, um, were real and that we really were going to have chemistry and connect. Yeah. Because we needed to know if we were going to invite them to host with us next year.

So we, um, everything went well, you know, as well as possible possible during the week all four of us worked well together and and we all had a really good time so we we said all along we're going to save the last night for the four of us so that we can kind of get together and talk about the week and just decompress and spend some time together as friends so we were like. So we decided that we were going to do room service because Mr. Jones and I had a beautiful room this time, and we wanted to really be able to enjoy our room.

We had a penthouse, which had a beautiful terrace, and it was a lovely night on the last night of the trip. And the only thing that we've ever had before is an ocean view room, except for one time we had a master suite. Right so this was very very special to have this beautiful room so we were going to order room service and then mr jones said you know i'll go talk to the butler and i'll take care of um getting the room service set up for tonight so i was like okay because it was still afternoon time and then he didn't really say much afterwards. And then we were getting ready that night.

And all of a sudden, somebody knocks on the door. And it was a work a couple workers bringing in a table to put out on our terrace. So they brought a table with four chairs and set it out. And I thought, Oh, that's really nice. We got a special table because it was kind of like a, a coffee table that we could have all sat around with room service and it would have been fine. But they brought this beautiful little table and then Mr. Jones had to run out somewhere and I was still getting ready in the door.

Somebody knocked on the door again and I came and it was a, another maintenance guy and he has these lights. Then he said, can I put these on your terrace?

and I was like, like okay so he put these lights on the terrace well unbeknownst to me mr jones had arranged a surf and turf dinner for four that night for c and d and he and i and they made our terrace an absolute magical place yeah it was beautiful and then cnd showed up and then all of a sudden all of these servers started showing up with the first course and the second course and there was wine and oh my gosh it was so wonderful it was lobster and filet mignon and these fancy appetizers and salads and desserts and oh my goodness and it was beautiful night stars in the sky yeah a little breeze coming off the water and they brought these spotlights and these spotlights were colored and they positioned them just right where we could see what we were eating because it was pitch dark but um it was this beautiful soft colored light and it was just i said i felt like a princess it was amazing yeah and we were with c and d that we had you know worked with for 16 months to get this together and you know we we just got along with them so well and and the irony is that first of all, we're the same age and we're from literally the opposite side of the world from them right and if we we don't work in the same industries i mean technically we have absolutely nothing in common with them but on paper right But the lifestyle brought us together and and really we got along so well i mean they're just they're such genuinely kind people and they are funny and they are sexy and they are smart and and they're responsible and they're innovative and i just i don't know what else to say about them oh i guess i already said sexy right yeah they were really sexy Thank you.

And they're responsible and they're innovative. And I just, I don't know what else to say about them. Oh, I guess I already said sexy, right? Yeah. They were really sexy. So, I mean, the night was so magical. But then just to keep it real, it was animal print night. And see comes, I mean, Mr. Jones had on like a shirt and jeans, typical theme night outfit for him. I shot my wad on the DSM night. Yeah, fetish night was over, right? So Mr. Jones had on his shirt and his jeans.

I outfit for him i shot my wad on yeah fetish night was over right so mr jones had on his shirt and his jeans i had on an animal print dress that i wouldn't wear in public but it was just it was a club dress c was dressed up like i called her pebbles because she had her beautiful blonde hair and a little side ponytail and and she had on this cute little like animal print like top and skirt and cute little shoes and everything and and then there was d and he was dressed up like bam bam with no shorts with a little skirt and there was a little contained he had containment issues he he had major containment issues especially like when I would tease him and get him all hot and bothered.

It was so funny. Yeah. Yeah. So it was magical, but at the same time, we had a lot of fun. So that's the end? Well, that's the end of your snapshot? That's the end of my snapshot. My snapshot is two couples coming together that seemingly would have no reason to come together. And we connected on every possible level that week, which sets me up for my snapshot. Okay. Cause I'm not going to get into the magical crap. It's sexual. It was very sexual. I'm not going to lie. Yeah. It was crazy.

I mean, when, when Dee did that podcast about the 10 or 12 ways to get into C's pants, you know, I was feverish. I did everything that I could to study ahead of time.

I was a little bit nervous, but anyway, when we got into the bedroom, um, after that evening, um, you know, after being together the whole week it was just very natural it was very easy it was a lot of fun it was very sexy she is a sexy woman oh my gosh yeah her body oh my gosh yeah and together watching them together is amazing too you know they have such good chemistry but my snapshot is she and i were playing and you and d were playing and he he would go through about us he would go through periods of time maybe five minutes where he could be serious and then he couldn't help himself he would do something goofy and it kept the mood it kept breaking up the mood in a good way I mean it was back and forth you know we would we would be serious and there would be some hot and heavy stuff going on and sweating and moaning and then there'd be giggling from the other side of the bed and then we would start giggling at any rate she and I were playing very passionately and and it was man it was a lot of fun and when we got to towards the end I believe I was with her doggy style and he was with you and the four of us connected I think he started kissing her and then he was kissing you and I was kissing you.

The four of us were intertwined at the end. And that rarely happens. And I know there was at least three orgasms at one time and maybe four. The three of you did. I didn't because had one like you couldn't wait when he as soon as he went inside of me it it made i mean it it's like the angle that he entered me just it hit my g-spot and i had an orgasm right away yeah and then and then i had just recovered from that and the three of you just went crazy all at the same time. Yeah. It was intense. It was intense. Yes. Yeah, so that really capped off what was a spectacular week. Yeah.

And we had a lot of fun. We thank you all for being and we especially a special thanks there to our friends c and d so what we're going to do now is we're going to share about 10 or 12 minutes worth of snapshots that people shared with us around the pool at desire on friday afternoon which was so fun yeah so here here are the snapshots and and maybe some of you who were there will recognize these voices and enjoy them, and we'll be right back. This has been like the best trip we've had since we've been coming to Desire. We've been coming to Desire.

No, my snapshot's not very sexy but it's it's unbelievable we had dinner with two other couples last night and we just shared our stories and just talked about how we got into this and how much we love our spouses and and that that right there that that's the snapshot just six people sitting down talking about the lifestyle and how it's made their relationship better. It was incredible and I think we've made friends for a long, long time. So there, that's mine. That's mine. Amen.

So I was walking back towards my room, and some guy, some fine gentleman, stopped to me, took my hand, kissed him, and said, who I have no idea who he is, said, thank you for adding to the sexiness of this environment, and that just like took my breath away. Now, my other Snapchat, I'm still waiting on, and that is... And the kiss from Mr. Jeff. Bravo! All right, slow down there. Bravo, you can give me the bravo, ladies. All right, like that. So, I'm going to blame Mrs. Jones for my snapshot. Uh-oh. Blame? Blame, yeah.

Well, we were fortunate enough to meet that last August when they were here. And she insisted that Mr. Jones and my hubby were part of the chicken tail. We had a little bit of pre-knowledge that this was know, this was going to happen. But you have to understand that he is the introvert of all introverts. And it took a lot of tequila to get him up there. And then they gave him that really strong drink. And then he had more celebratory tequila after he became a chip and tail expert.

I got him back to the room and he's got this Cheshire grin on his face, he's like made his knife, and he says, we gotta go down the hot tub, Jenny, and all my vans are waiting. I have this baggy of condominiums, I need to bring my condominiums with me. I said, you know what, let's leave your condominiums at home and if I find any woman who would like to purchase a condominium, I'll bring her back to you. Awesome. Thank you for bullying my husband and doing that with you, because I think that's my snapshot. From one introvert to another, there is no way that Mr.

Jones would have ever done that five years ago before we had- Five months ago. Five months ago. But, you know, just the- and that's just an indicator of what the lifestyle can do for you. It can just help you reach inside yourself and- We want the guys to stay in the lifestyle. No. Yeah, You don't have to be in the Chippendale contest to be in the Lifestyle. But just the fact that my husband had the courage to do that, he doesn't even like to be on the dance floor, much less be the center of attention on the dance floor. So this was actually a really big moment for Mr. Jones.

And that's really my snapshot of the week. I would like to thank Joneses for three, what the right words, for teaching what the lifestyle is, or at least helping us with standards, giving us the courage to come here and be valuable. And we weren't sure that we were going to be able to manage it. It seemed like we were jumping in and leaving like a pool. And we knew we'd be with a lot of good friends.

And I think my nice snapshot is we were here a couple days when we were coming from it was six o'clock we were coming let's go for a little ride and the music is going she's got her little potion going, and she meets a beautiful booklet-covered man coming her way, and they meet eyes, they match their little dance step, comes up to them, just wraps her arms around, gives them a beautiful kiss, and just kind of dances off into where we're going, which is the restroom, which go there a lot. So that was just so beautiful.

So I think we smiled for finding our way, and I want to thank you and the most amazing people. And it's hard because you're going, we're on vacation wild, sexy stories from being here. It seemed like we were constantly trying to one-up the last sexy story that we've had. But this snapshot is a little different. different wonder where I'm going with this so yeah we do some wild crazy stuff and it's always fun meeting sexy new people people we we do going into it and having fun with them, but this snapshot took place at the Massage Workshop.

And, you know, we've been talking about different couples and it's going to be fun for different reasons. And we found ourselves at this workshop amongst sexy couples around us, being put on by a sexy couple.

And we found ourselves totally, oh no, I can't look at you right now, totally connecting and having a moment that kind of took us both by surprise, and we were like, oh yeah, the best thing about being here is being with each other and after having so many wild crazy times involving other people it's cool that we come to Mexico to have this moment where it was just the two of us countless number of snapshots that I've had since we've been here.

I hope the vast majority of those snapshots I've managed well enough to lock away into my personal spank bank because there's plenty of fuel for that here, clearly. But my biggest snapshot, my most significant snapshot is, I think it happened, it might have been on day three, maybe, on Monday, for us.

And my wife looked at me as we were walking back to our room one day, having met yet another bunch of amazing, beautiful, and free thinking people and she said um i saw a look on her face that i've seen in a few times since we've been married but only a few and she said i can't believe so many beautiful people want to spend time And I knew a few then as I did two years ago when we visited RM just down the road and I knew that I'd done a good thing again.

I'll give him another snapshot, this one's a little more embarrassing at least for one person, or maybe two, three people in the crowd, because the last one was sexy so this one's just weird, it's a way I like to roll. So I was recently sitting in a jacuzzi, like most of you, and the particular group that I was sitting with was a recent mother, my wife, and a couple of pandas. And one of the pandas that maybe had just, I'm going to say a scooch or two scooches too much to drink so at 4 a.m.

her idea was let's get some five-hour energy going so she offered the five-hour energy to to the mother who's maybe still love on baby product, so the baby's looking forward to a fucking awesome time over the next couple of weeks. And to my wife. Now both of them in their reasonably sober minds, reasonably drunk or reasonably sober, said it's probably a good idea for us not to do this and I think it was 3 or 4 a.m. the panda was insistent but we managed to get her and her bamboo back in the bed at some point in the evening. So, I'm Penn from the Swinger Diaries podcast.

My wife, Paige, over there. If these lights... So, I don't turn off the microphone, but I have just a quick snapshot that you can use on your show, and that is that we showed up just yesterday. We just came for... Actually, this is not our event, right? We kind of are crashing this awesome party from these three fucking behind us. And we showed up yesterday, and we came in, and you're podcast listeners just like all of you are. Because, you know, we listen to the shows, we're entertained by what they say, we never miss any of their shows.

I personally heard every single minute of every show they've done most of you probably have too so as podcast listeners just like you oh yeah and a couple extras maybe there it is so as podcast listeners just like you when we showed up the thing we were most impressed by the thing we will remember from this trip is that when we walked in within 15 minutes we walked right over here and stood by these umbrellas and mrs jones came right up to us and said oh we're so excited that you're here great to see you great to see you we then walked over to have a little lunch and on the way out of lunch we met tna we had never met them before they had greeted us right away and we met them as well and then before we could get to the table C and D from swinging down under said we want to have lunch with you and sat us down to have lunch and so thank you I was a little loopy it was I needed food thank you we needed food because Paige had too much to drink and if she has too much to drink crazy stuff happens that I am not responsible and I don't get the edit for.

Fireball, I need some. Mostly what we want to say is thank you to these three couples who all have not only put it all together but made themselves available to all of you and us. And in 15 minutes of being here, we saw what all of you saw too, which is that they did a lot of work to put it together and I hope that all of us have enjoyed the time and the effort that they've done. So thank you for all of you. While you're thinking and moving closer to share, I think that one thing Mrs. Jones and I were really, people have asked us, are you still working? Because it's a lot of work.

The one thing that we really wanted to do this week was to be present. And we don't look at it as a lot of work. We want to be present. And the analogy that we use is, you know, we felt like we were bringing a whole lot of people to a dinner party hoping everybody was going to get along. And that was the anxiety more than anything else. We knew that we knew Pearl was going to deliver. We were fairly certain that the weather was going to be here.

And we know that a lot of you trusted us in our referral and our invitation to come here and i think we put a lot of pressure on ourselves and hoping that you all were going to be having a good time so one evening we came into the sexiest voice on itunes get over. Put a bit of husk on it. I mean, I kind of told this at the cocktail party a couple of nights ago. We walked into the hot tub area at about five o'clock in the afternoon, and the hot tub was packed full of people.

And it wasn't the day that it was raining and we had to be in there because otherwise you would freeze to death um it was just packed full of people and everybody was just engaged and crazy loud laughing and just these sexy sexy beautiful people and um it was just overwhelming and i'm just in my sexy way i just busted out crying and I am not a pretty crier. I mean, it was ugly, but it's just overwhelming, and I'm just, in my sexy way, I'm just busted out crying, and I am not a pretty crier. I mean, it was ugly.

But it's just so hard for me to be here, and I mean, this is our eighth trip to a Desire Resort, and we've just never seen people engage with one another, and it has nothing to do with us.

I'm a people watcher, and it's just been so pleasant to watch people engage, and it has nothing to do with us just that i'm a people watcher and it's just been so pleasant to watch people engage and um it's awesome so i mean desire definitely sets the stage but you all made the party so as we wrap up episode 44 let's since we're closing out desire 2017 let's touch on desire 2018 really quick yes because we have an agreement with desire that i'm we're not allowed to put these promo codes on our website, but we have promo codes for you to write down. Yes.

Or you can email me and I will send them to you. If you are going to, we are going on a Desire cruise out of Barcelona, April 28th. Yes. It's April 28th to May 5th. Of 2018. If you want to go with us and you have not booked, if you book on our site and you use the promo code WGTDC, you will get an extra $400 off the cost of the cruise. Right. And they're running some pretty good promotions right now. Yeah. So any promotion they're running, you can click through it on our website and get an additional $400 off the cruise. Right.

And I just looked and they do have quite a few nice veranda cabins left, you know, like a balcony cabin left on the ship. So it's not like all the cruddy rooms that are left, but it is filling up quick. Yes.

And we would love for you guys to guys to come with us like we we've never done this before so we would love to have some sexy friends to share this with yeah we know of two or three other couples that are coming along yeah so we hope to get some more of you to go with us on the cruise yeah we are going back to desire pearl for a smaller group trip on june 23rd through the 30th and the promo code that week is wgtdp as in desire pearl and not the other dp no that code will get you free transportation to and from the airport right then our big week again next november 10th through the 17th of 2018 the promo code is dpwgt I'll see you next time.

Our big week, again, next November, 10th through the 17th of 2018, the promo code is DPWGT. And again, that's going to get you free airport transportation. Yes. Some of the promo codes that we'd like to throw out while we're doing this, the Game of Lifestyle, the dumb card game, has given us a promo code. They're going to give you 10% off if you click through the banner on our site. WGT10, and that promo code will be on the website. WGT10 will give you 10% off the Game of Lifestyle.

And our friends who delivered our Essence sex chair, Rebel Furniture, will give you a 5% discount with the promo code WGT at their website, and there'll be a link to that on our website. So since it's almost Christmas time, take advantage of some of these discounts offered by some of our affiliate partners and travel. Go ahead and book your vacation and travel with us next year. That's right. And what else?

Well well check out our website and click through the link to look at our online course yes you know we didn't really talk about it much on this episode but if you if you go to our website and click through the link it takes you to um our courses website and it gives a pretty thorough explanation of because you might be thinking what in the world is an online course yeah so you know go check it out and see if it's something you might be interested in yes you can follow us on twitter at we got a thing you can join our cassidy community at and our cassidy community is we got a thing you can join cassidy through our website and get 90 days for free You can also email us, mrjones at wegotathing.com.

And mrs. and get 90 days for free. You can also email us, mrjones at wegotathing.com. And mrsjones at wegotathing.com. If you have any questions at all about any of these promo codes or our online lifestyle course, feel free to drop us a line. Until next time, we are Mr. and Mrs. Jones and We Got a Thing. What's your thing? We'll see you next time.