Episode 37: Our Worlds Collide- Outed as Lifestyle Podcasters

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This podcast contains explicit language and content and is for mature audiences only. Hey you teenagers out there, if you're under 18, this show is more for your parents. So now that you have that mental picture stuck in your head, put some music on and get back to doing your homework. We are a long-time married couple who's decided to chronicle our personal adventures and share our sex-positive discussions as we navigate our way through the swinging lifestyle. Care to join us?

hello everyone i'm mr jones and i'm mrs jones and we want to welcome you to episode 37 of the we gotta think podcast and where have you been i've been sitting down here for two months i know you've been waiting for me waiting for you the microphones are dusty i know yeah so lots happened in two months, hasn't it, baby? Yeah. Yeah. Are we going to do Keeping Up with the Joneses? I think the whole episode is Keeping Up with the Joneses tonight. Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. Although we've been doing a lot. We have had some fun the past couple months, yes. Yes.

And we'll talk about that in the future because we owe you some stories about our cruise. Yeah, so yeah, I think right after we left you guys on episode 36, we went on our vanilla cruise. And we went to Trapeze. Yeah, that's right, that's right. We spent the night in Fort Lauderdale and met some friends. And we have unicorn stories. Yeah. And we had friends come into town. Yeah, we've had all kinds of stuff happen. Yeah. So here we are two months later. Yeah. And during that time, we got interrupted. We did. We came back from our cruise and everything was going great.

We had some friends over and then all of a sudden, boom. Yeah. Our worlds collided. Yeah. So this episode is titled, Our Worlds Collide, Being Outed as Lifestyle Podcasters. Yeah. So we're going to shift away from our normal format right this podcast right i think we so i'm not gonna lie this this episode is just one big old therapy session well i think in a way i've been missing getting behind the microphone but i've been dreading it in a way yeah too because we're still in the middle of a lot of stuff and processing a lot of stuff, but we've also made some progress.

Well, and I think we know our direction forward and we want to make sure that you all know that we're still here and that we're not going anywhere.

We are just trying to figure out exactly what that path is going to look like as we move forward yes but we are back we are and we're going to talk about that in a minute so where have we been well i have to say that if you subscribe to our newsletter oh here we go this is a little i told you so if you subscribe to our newsletter or if you're in our cassidy community or if you follow us on twitter or if you've visited or tried to visit our website lately or if you sent us an email or if you listen to my pitiful 60 second announcement last month or if you listen to my pitiful 60-second announcement last month or if you listened to Paige and Penn or J&K on their podcast, you should know that we've taken a little break and a little bit about why.

So if you didn't know, then shame on you. You need to get to our website. That's right.

And sign up for our newsletter, our new and improved newsletter, We're going to talk about that so what was the easiest way for you to contact people the email yeah yeah so if you sign up for our newsletter i have your email address and i was able to send one message out to a couple thousand people at one time yeah and that was definitely the easiest method so think about that um and come to our website and sign up for that yeah i mean it's all yeah it's just it's a it's an easy thing for you all to do and then it just makes us it really easy for us to communicate exactly and just such an emergency we didn't really plan on using it for emergency purposes.

So thank you all for being patient. We have a lot to thank you for and we'll get to that a little bit later too. But we're not going to, I know a lot of you are curious. So we're not going to go into a lot of details about what happened and what we're going through because it's not over yeah we're in the midst of it um and there's not enough of it in our rearview mirror now to do any reflection we're still kind of uh you know on our feet and trying to stay afloat and we don't know what we're dealing with exactly.

But we felt like what we could talk about is kind of how it happened and how we decided to manage it and what decisions we had to make and how we made those decisions and what we've decided to do moving forward.

And then, you know, as time moves forward, we'll be able to process things a little bit more and be able to have some, you know, more lessons learned, both for our own self-reflection and as, you know, advice for people out there that hopefully we'll never encounter what we've encountered and um you know one of the things we want to say up front and i know we're going to say this more than once um this is because of our podcast yeah it's not because we're in the lifestyle it's because our voices are out there yes you know and that's obviously made us more um noticeable more vulnerable, you know, however you want to think about it.

Right. So, yeah. And we kind of knew this day might come. It's been in the back of our minds. Yeah. And we'll talk about that more. Yeah. Yeah, in a little bit, too. So, yeah, it's because we're podcasters, so don't just quit the lifestyle. No. I mean, we're not, so. No, hey, you're giving away the end. Oh, oops. Spoiler alert. Yeah. So what we can say is that there was a letter that was circulated, an anonymous letter that was circulated, and it pointed the reader or the recipient of that letter to our website. And so once that occurred, then it spread through different parts of our lives.

It spread in our community, in our church, church um and since then you know our friends and family have been brought into it and uh so i i don't think you know there was much that it didn't touch no so and you know it still could be and it is circulating and of course the more people people that find out than the word of mouth. Yeah, it's inevitable. There's no putting the genie back in the bottle. No. As you like to say. Yeah, I have said that more than once in the past two months. As you like to say it, but, yeah. So we're not going to dwell.

I know that this might not be satisfying to some of you because we're not going to dwell on how or who because we can only influence and control you know what how we react and how we respond right and honestly we don't know who right and and you know we think we know how but we're not real sure right and that's really not the point the point is it's out and we're dealing with it right yeah and we knew that when we started there was a potential that this could happen and so we've talked about that but it sure is a heck of a lot different talking about it and actually dealing with it so we want to share with you how we felt and And, you know, like I said, how we decided to manage the situation and what we've done to move forward and why we made these particular decisions.

So with that as a backdrop, are we ready? I guess we're ready. Okay. I think when we first found out that people knew, we didn't want, we didn't really do anything at first. We didn't want to overreact and we didn't want to underreact. We were kind of a little paralyzed, wouldn't you say? Like, is this really happening? Yeah, and not knowing exactly what we were dealing with kind of i don't know it most of me wanted to crawl under a rock and hide but then the you know a big part of me was mad um because we we don't know who did it and the person didn't come forward.

So, you know, we, we don't really know what we're dealing with, which is very frustrating because I just feel like if I knew who we had upset or whatever the motivation was, um, I just feel like I really wish I would have had an opportunity to have a conversation with that person um so we could figure out what the problem was and and at least know why we had upset somebody right now we don't know and i find that very you know frustrating because i can't fix it and because we can't we have to just assume that can't, and we have to assume that anybody could find out.

Yeah, it's like I'm walking around just waiting for the other shoe to drop every day. Yeah. So there's really, I mean, we could have crawled under a rock, and we did. We shut down the website first when we realized the news was spreading because we wanted to try to stay ahead of it the best that we could but not get too far ahead of it. Right, and then we scrambled and we came up with our short list of people that we wanted to get to first. Yeah. And had some very interesting conversations with people very close to us.

And you know, so the very first conversation that we had with this particular family member or these family members, I was watching you tell the story and I got a little bit of comfort right away because you were very confident in what you were saying yeah and and i you know observing you i just wanted to see how you were going to respond because here we were with people that we've known all of our lives and we're going to tell them this a lot of stuff we had to process because we had to tell you know how we got into it um then we had to talk about the lifestyle then we had to talk about the podcast and if it's taken it took us eight or nine or ten months to get our heads around this to just dump all this on somebody in a matter of an hour and a half there's a lot to process yeah but i was watching you as we were and you really did most of the talking um the first time that we that's because as they were on their way over you said you're gonna do all the talking right i was like well okay yeah i did do that didn't i yes you did i threw you right under the bus but you did and you But you did, and you did a good job.

And you were making eye contact. And I could tell you weren't ashamed of yourself or embarrassed for what we do. That's because the people we told first were probably two of the most important people in our lives. Yeah, yeah. And that went well. Yeah, it did. It did. They were very quiet.

They didn't really ask any questions, but at the end of it, they said, we know you, and we love you, and we trust you guys to not make bad decisions, and they just kind of accepted it yeah so we didn't want to tell too many people because not everybody really needs to know i mean it's our business no and i only had so much emotional energy yeah that had a lot to do with it yeah right so we were taking this literally one hour at a time right because we didn't know how quickly it was going to spread the channels it was going to spread through and how quickly it was going to touch people that we were related to or that we care about right so um then it continued to spread so we decided to take down the podcast.

Initially it was just the website, then it was the podcast. And the reason that we did that is because we knew that we needed to collect ourselves and keep our heads and wits about us, and we knew that we had a lot to go through.

And I think we kind of felt felt like if we didn't if there was if we could stop the bleeding a little bit well right give us oxygen i just needed um i needed assurance that the people that we cared about would not have access to the podcast before we could tell them about it right um because i'm sure it is really confusing to hear somebody that you think you know really well talk about things that, like when, I think when somebody listens to a lifestyle podcast, that's not the least bit familiar with or intrigued by the lifestyle.

It's gotta be very confusing because it's like completely out of context to their reality, especially when they think that they know the two voices that they're hearing and they're hearing them talk about things that they've never thought about before. Right, right.

And that's why we don't market and evangelize to people who don't express an interest to begin with right you know so the podcast is really not meant for the general public to consume no it's meant for you have to look for us to find us unless somebody sends you a letter you you have to have an interest and you have to start researching and look and find us so we're you know or else it's out of context like you just said and you know we don't know what other people do in their bedroom and people don't normally talk about that so just the fact that we're talking about intimate things is strange enough right but then to like you were saying put voices and and people and try to fit that into what you already know about us is a difficult expectation right yeah like when i when i think about our friends and family i don't ever imagine what they do in the bedroom or what sex toys they like or how many orgasms they can have in one night i mean that's just that's just weird right um because i don't know them in that setting and and i don't desire to know them in that setting right so we knew that if we could stop the flow of information that would allow us to address the issue head-on in present day and allow us to think and move forward without that worry about right you know, it's spreading quicker than it was going to anyway.

Right, right. How do you want to talk about how we work through this?

Well, I think we should just kind of like talk about our thought process, like how we were trying to like map out um not the decisions themselves but just basically what decisions do we need to think about you know making so you know first of all we had to figure out okay what needs to change or what do we need to address and then you know once we came up with that list then we had to tackle each one of those things so i guess first of all i think um goes back to basics i mean did we want to turn everything off and and unplug everything and and crawl in the closet and hide yeah and and i know that we I know that we didn't want to do that but back then when it first happened i'm telling you i never really understood that whole fight or flight thing and i and i was feeling that big time right and i wanted to make sure that you knew that that was an option yeah and so even though in the back of my mind i didn't want to get out i didn't want to say that i didn't want to start the conversation by saying honey i don't really want to get out of this what do you want to do because that isn't the right way to ask yeah so i wanted to know hey if this is if this is something that we don't even want to battle or if we just want to cut it off and say hey we had a good time i'm giving you the opportunity to voice your opinion about what do you think about that right and we tried to talk about that at first but that was before we had actually like shut all of the audio files down and i just remember thinking i can't think because i was just like in total panic mode so i think i remember walking into the bedroom and looking at you and saying you need to take the audio files down and you were like okay and i said and you need to do it right now yeah and i just stood there and looked at you and i don't think i walked away until you did it um you're like okay i think i know how to do this yeah because it really isn't easy as flipping a switch i mean that's the thing um there was kind of a lot of thought that had to go into how to how to do this so it's not a permanent that yeah that was the issue we just wanted to pull the curtain we just wanted to close the curtain right and leave everything behind the curtain so that we could open it again.

We didn't want to delete and cancel and close. Right. But I couldn't think. I couldn't think. I was just like totally panicked. Right. Because it was still out there. Yeah. Yeah. And I just felt like the whole world was listening and that every time I walked out my front door, people were going to look at me and say, oh, that's that lady that has that crazy podcast. Yeah. So we did. Yeah. And we shut down the website, which turned out to be really easy to do. Right. Right. And it's, and it's not permanent. Everything's just kind of like suspended. Yeah.

I can flip the switch back on, which I've already done if you're listening to this.

You know, so once that happened, then we can start kind of thinking through the other questions and and um like a really fundamental question that i think people need to work through because obviously most people aren't going to have audio files to shut down and websites to put back under construction or whatever they might have pictures out there though well right right so your lifestyle yeah profiles and and those kinds of things you have to manage those twitter accounts you know whatever you would have right um yeah you got to figure out how to how to um manage that what do you want to completely delete it or do you just want even if you don't have a podcast you've given people your your phone numbers you've given people your kick address you've've got pictures out there, maybe in a Facebook closed group, on your Twitter feed.

So, yeah, everybody's going to be thinking the same thing. Right. Because the fundamental question, I guess, is do you want to stay in the lifestyle when something like this happens? Yeah. And each person has to think that through because um you know one thing i have to say about you and i is we never circled the wagons and shot inward you know we've we've never pointed fingers at each other you made me do this or this was your idea this was a dumb idea we never did that um and and in hindsight that's awesome yeah I don't know.

do this or this was your idea this was a dumb idea we never did that um and and in hindsight that's awesome yeah because it was very stressful i mean it still is very stressful but when it first happened it was just so shocking and confusing and and so surreal i guess yeah it would have been real easy to say oh my god what have we done this was such This was such a bad idea, but we never did that. So I think the whole, do you want to stay in the lifestyle question answered itself for us.

Well, I think to a large degree, what we've been through from the time we got into the lifestyle as an indication of the strength of our relationship, part of it is that we didn't circle the wagons and shoot inwards, where before, four or five years ago, we may have done that in other aspects of our lives. Although one night, we had a kind of an unpleasant night where it was kind of rough, and I think we got in bed, and I think this was the night, and you you rolled over and you hugged me and you said, I feel like the worst husband in the world. And that really sucked.

I think that was one of our lowest moments because I was like, I'm a big girl. I made this decision on my own. You did not talk me into this and you do not have any reason to feel that way sorry well no i you know i i remember that and and i didn't i was just sharing my feelings i i didn't i didn't mean that i thought that i was it's just that watching you and your discomfort and going through some things, I felt somewhat responsible for that. Just like any husband would when their wife is in distress.

Right, and then I felt bad because I thought, oh my gosh, he thinks he has to carry all this on his shoulders. And I didn't want you to feel like you had to be strong to take care of me. You know, that wasn't fair to you. So, yeah. Right. And I struggled, too. Yeah, I know. You know, and I struggled with, do I even let you know that I'm struggling?

Because when I know that you're struggling, you know, my thought process is, gosh, if she thinks I'm struggling, then that's just additional burden you know that you have to carry but then i thought you know no if we're partners yes you know i need to be honest with you and you know i i i said look i remember i said i'm the guy who everybody likes that's, yeah. And now there are some people that made it clear. Yeah, they did. You know, that they weren't happy. And so that was hard, you know, in the moment.

I mean, you deal with it, but then after reflecting on it, you know, that was a new experience for me. And so I had to, you know, process that. And you were you were good about yeah because i explained it to you you know you you were concerned at first because i was a little bit down but then when i told you why i think you were relieved because you felt like okay now that i know what it is yeah you know then i can help you yeah and you you become when you're upset about something, you become very quiet and introspective. All my feelings, I just vomit them out of my mouth.

They just, they don't stay. So I think I'm always pretty transparent with what I'm feeling and what I'm dealing with. Yeah, but you know what you're so much better at now?

you did this several times when you would when you would either vent or when you would get upset you would say after you'd like finish your sentence even if you were crying or if you were just angry or whatever you would say I need you to know that I'm not blaming you this is not your fault yeah I'm just telling you that this is how I feel and And so that little bit of affirmation from you, that allowed me to listen through different ears than defensive ears. Right. And you were very good about that. Yeah. So then we talked about the podcast. Right.

You know, so I think the was a given and and again you know we're going to talk about our friends and and the support that we've received through the lifestyle and that's just totally cemented our decision yeah um that's definitely the the path that we're headed down in a very good way. Yeah. But I think when, what I was thinking of when we, do we shut the podcast down? The first thing I thought of is, well, wait a minute for the past two and a half years. Yeah. We've been telling people things. So do we, are we going to listen to ourselves?

How much less meaningful would the things that we've shared be to people if we backed away?

And because I would imagine if I were on the other side listening and we just disappeared, then I would be thinking, well, the lifestyle must not be worth it everything they made it out to be because they chose to not participate right so that that was one thing that was driving me because we are authentic at least I think we are and know, we wanted to, we feel like we have some responsibility now because of the following that we have and because what this has meant to us and that it gives us credibility as a couple to actually put our action where our words are.

But, you know, I don't know that I'm disputing what you're saying but at the same time what is the very first rule we have on our list of rules and boundaries we are beholden to no one right yeah including our listeners yeah so the fact that we're continuing our podcast isn't because we feel obligated it's because we want to yes yeah so i mean we're getting something out of it too right we got messages that said we're gonna we want you guys to continue but if you don't we understand yeah yeah and then we heard that a lot and so i know that i'm just just telling you, you know, we have a mission here and it would be disappointing i think you know not to complete it or continue it right that's all i agree with you yeah so we never really said at that point in time even though see the marketing guy in me because it I mean, you all know we release every 30 days on the button.

We want to be consistent. We want to be reliable and dependable. You know, we want to give you information that's valuable and we want to do it in an authentic and a professional way. And so to stop doing this for a month or two really irritated me. We had our outline together for the original episode 37 that should have come out a month ago. And then all this happened. And Mr. Jones actually had the audacity to say, so do you want to try to record? And I was like, really? I said, I just don't think Thank you.

say so so do you want to try to record and I was like really I said I just don't think I can fake it like that I mean there it you guys would have totally known something was wrong yeah so yeah but you really you really wanted to try didn't you well I did yeah I wanted to at least put something out because we always said that if we got out of this and i guess my the point i was going to make is that from the very get-go i sent out emails to people that asked and said we'll be back but honestly i didn't know if we would be back true but we are back so i was telling the truth and then the further we got through this process the more confident i became that we would but at the beginning i didn't know i just hoped and assumed that we would and that was just from watching you too you know i honestly never actually considered not coming back right and i picked up on that yeah it's that whole genies out of the bottle thing it's yeah right we're in it i mean that's just who we are now kind of right and as it unfolded you know we we tried to decide um who do we need to tell and when do we need to tell them and who do we not need to tell and that was not a list that you could just sit down and make it was fluid and because because we had to know, okay, we knew the people that knew, and we know who they know, and we know which circles of our lives that it touched, so what friends and family touch those circles, and how do we prioritize this list, and how do we tell the right people and not tell people that we don't really need to tell right now right that was really and i'm not sure that we did that right but it but it was definitely something that we had to do to do decide yeah yeah and and that was tough because again we don't know what we're dealing with so you know we don't want to overexpose ourselves but at the same time you know i guess we're out but we're not walking around with you know it's stamped on our foreheads or whatever yeah and maybe it's a good time to say now that i mean we are out we are.

We are in the open. We're not, you know, we have told, there are people that know in every circle of friendship that we have. Yeah. And key people know in each of those areas. And more people we will tell in the future and more people will find out.

You know, so we haven't gotten to the point where we're going to put our pictures out there and use our real names and anything like that we're going to continue to you know to stay as incognito as as we've been but i think it's being discreet yeah we're still going to be discreet but we don't want that hanging over our head again that you know that somebody can hold anything over us so we've decided it would be best to you know just tell people yeah and of course we knew that this was going to impact or potentially impact our career and our finances yeah and people have said before you know would you lose your job and Thank you.

our career and our finances yeah and people have said before you know would you lose your job and you know if you did what would you do and how did that impact your cash flow and you know everything else and it's having an impact yeah um i've had to make a career change. And again, it's a proactive decision. I guess it's a decision that needed to be made. But it's not been easy for me. Yeah. And I don't know, I'm a little shell-shocked. Luckily, I was able to retire.

So, yeah, I'm a little shell-shocked um I luckily I was able to retire um so yeah I'm retired yeah um so yeah I need a job yeah yeah so um that's been probably what I've struggled with the most, but I was going to work and I was just waiting for the email to come from my boss saying, come see me. I was just so paranoid that something was going to happen in my workplace and that it would just end up being really ugly. So it just wasn't worth the risk. And I wasn't even really able to enjoy my job at that point. So, um, you know, I, I, and then I've, you know, was eligible to retire.

So I go, I went ahead and did that. And, uh, you know, I need, I need to find something to stay busy. So we got some, I got some pokers in the fire and, and, uh, we have some opportunities in front of us to, to really probably end up making a real positive change. Yeah. I don't, I don't think that we're as concerned. Maybe I'm misreading you, but I don't think the financial part of it really wasn't the bigger concern. I think the bigger concern for you was you felt like you were forced into this decision before you were ready for it. Right.

It was a decision that was in the near future, but it wasn't something that I was planning on doing now. Right.

And I just feel like that decision was taken out of my hands yes right so that makes me kind of sad yeah so you're unemployed yeah by your choosing though yeah so now i have lots of time on my hands but now i have no money so yeah no it's not that bad but um so yeah this is really kind of hit every area well just to be clear so you all don't think i'm a big jerk you know i've given mrs jones a couple of months i said hey you know look take a couple of months and just relax and figure out what you want to do yeah you don't have to go back to work right now yeah we've got uh we've got we're at this point in our lives we're okay right for a short term right and now i'm finding there's all kinds of opportunities for me to stay involved in the field that i work in and and um and just have a lot more freedom and flexibility and yeah and that kind of stuff so it could end up being a really good thing but it's just happening at the same time as everything else so it's just very emotionally overwhelming for me yeah so i'm just one big hot mess right now yeah people are wondering why you're not so excited about i know i know and yeah i'm really having trouble being excited about it.

I'm just, I'm so melancholy. Yeah. But, yeah, so anyway, that's a, and again, I mean, we're at that stage in life where that was an option for us. Right. And some people may not be. Right. So, you know, it's a very real. Right. So actually, I'm pretty fortunate. Yeah. I was eligible to retire and not just have to resign. Right. Right.

So I think think part of the process the thought process that we were going through also was like even though we know that we weren't doing anything wrong we had already reconciled this and worked through it right when it's presented to you and again and and some people might think that we are it takes you all the way back to the beginning like oh my gosh did i miss something you know it's like pulling us back two or three years and then we're like are we doing something wrong oh i am i am totally guilty of that right um i i know you felt it a little bit but i i just kind of downward downward spiraled into i don't even know what reality is right now.

You know, I was so, after hearing other people's perspectives because it's so unfamiliar to them, it makes you think, okay, you know, what am I thinking? Is this okay? Am I seeing things totally wrong? And, you know, and then I would think, wait a minute. I'm doing this with the person I trust the most and know the best in my life.

It's not like I'm doing, I'm off by myself, completely myself completely misguided right so as we were being pulled back into a previous mindset because that's where other people were yeah we had a few events planned yeah that were already on the calendar coincidentally I don't think it was coincidentally at all. Yeah, right. I really think that this was just literally a gift to kind of help us catch our breath and recenter.

We had a weekend planned with a couple that we had been corresponding with for quite a bit of time um and we let them know that well we found out just three or four days before we were to see them yeah um we we found out i mean we found out that that we were outed yeah it's like three or four days before we were supposed to go away right so we didn't really know what we were dealing with then and it really was um not that bad at that point and but we were still kind of shaky like we don't know what we're dealing with we don't know how to respond to this so we actually were very up front with them and we let them know okay this has happened and we're really kind of we might not be a good company yeah we're kind of spinning right now and um they said well we're really good listeners and if you guys want to you know go ahead and meet i think we should go ahead and meet so we were like okay well we let you know what you're getting into so right we ended up going up there and they were the perfect couple for where we were at that time yeah they they were excellent listeners yeah not only professionally what they do for a living was helpful but the type of people that they are yeah and the way that they think um and the way they allowed us to settle into the evening yeah you know they handled us very well yeah so and it ended up being uh a time for us to recenter ourselves after being pulled back a couple of years right you know that that put us right back in the present day yeah yeah Thank you.

ourselves after being pulled back a couple of years right you know that that put us right back in the present day yeah yeah then the next week after was a rough week yeah it was a really rough week however the next weekend or maybe it was two weekends no it was just a few days later. So we spent the weekend getting to know that couple, and they were just amazing as far as listening and giving us really sound advice and kind of playing through scenarios with us and stuff. So then a few days later, we had a really rough week.

And then the following weekend, just a few days after that we had our meet and greet schedule yeah so this was something that came up four four months ago we we have a cassidy community and one of our a couple that we don't even know that was in our cassidy community that lives locally reached out to us and they said hey you know you guys do all this traveling around the country and do all these things why don't you host a local meet and greet and we thought that's a good idea we've never done anything locally yeah and so normally we don't we try to stay pretty kind of low-key in our community so we don't get outed.

Yeah, right. Kind of backfired. Anyway, we said, okay, here's the deal. If you organize the meet and greet, we'll show up. And they said, okay. So we spent the last couple months trying to find the venue and picking a date. And we decided to invite people who we wanted to keep it kind of small. I think there ended up to be like 24, 26 people. Yeah. And we chose people that were in our Cassidy community that were local, just to keep it simple. Some of them we already knew, and some of them we had never met before.

Yeah, and the couple that helped us arrange it, they invited people that they knew and so we we went locally to this meet and greet and i'll just say this the meet and greet was supposed to be from 2 p.m to 5 and they kicked us out at 6 30 we had so much fun this is another indicator just like our meet and greet at New Orleans last year, and just like the Desire Forum people that we've put together or they've come together, this meet and greet was full of amazing people. And everybody was interacting with everybody, and we had such a good time.

And again, that was another affirmation and something that re-centered us and you know again because people don't understand what the lifestyle can be like um you know people think it's you know dirty and and it's just about sex and there's, you know, I don't know. It's just, just so many misunderstandings about it. But then we go to this meet and greet and it was at, well, it was at a brewery, but it was really a brewery slash restaurant.

And I mean, we, we did have a section to ourselves, but it was like right in the middle of the restaurant and there were families there and, and it was fine because everybody at the meet and greet had manners and everybody was dressed appropriately and we were interacting appropriately. And at the same time we were having so much fun. And, and that's what I wish people could understand that the lifestyle isn't just about sex.

It's making connections with people on an authentic level and oh my gosh we had fun yeah uh so there were 24 26 of us and then what six couples we went out to we went out to dinner afterwards yeah yeah and then people had to leave you know to go to other family events or those kinds of But the stragglers, we all ended up going out to dinner super close to where the brewery was. Yeah. And then six of us went for drinks after dinner. So it was just a really good, fun. And you know what I loved about the meet and greet?

Well, first of all, the couple that hosted it, they an amazing job they had a super fun icebreaker and they did a good job like i really think i think there were like 15 couples there honey okay yeah i think everybody ended up talking to everybody yeah people did a really good job of mingling and you know there nobody was kind of hanging back everybody was just like really comfortable and nobody was dominating anything it was just really just awesome yeah so you know thanks to our our new friends that did all that work to bring that together and that was um the first meet and greet it's not the last right i have to get another one of those going that was so fun definitely we get to do a meet and greet the way meet-and-greet, it's not the last.

Right, right. I'm going to have to get another one of those going, that was so fun. Definitely. We get to do a meet-and-greet the way meet-and-greet should be done, in my opinion. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, we're going to do a meet-and-greet here next month in New Orleans. And I'm looking forward to that. And then, you know, you mentioned our desire forum.

And like, we have couples on our desire forum hosting meet and greets in on the west coast and the south and new england i mean texas yeah and there's already a group of them that are like going away for a weekend together yeah i mean it it's really cool how how people are connecting and yes you those kinds of things, that's, to me, that's recentering because we're meeting amazing people that just really are looking for, you know, fun connections, but genuine friendships. Yeah.

And then a springboard off of that meet and greet greet there were two couples there that we consider to be close friends that after at the end of the meet and greet they said okay the six of us are going to go to dinner next week and one girl she was like um we're going monday night yeah okay just put that on your calendar clear your calendar whatever, whatever. We're going to dinner Monday night. Yeah. Is that understood? And we were like, yeah. Yes, ma'am. She's a little thing, but she speaks with authority. She's feisty.

So we went out to dinner with them and had a great evening, just conversation and reconnecting. And these are people we've been friends with for a long time. And so we could be very frank with them and really tell them like all the crap that we were going through and feeling and yeah and you know and they listened to all that and then they could objectively respond but at the same time we laughed and had so much fun i mean they they wouldn't let us wallow in our own misery. You know, they listened and they nurtured, but at the same time, they were like, okay, we're here to have some fun too.

And we just laughed and told stories and, yeah, so. So that was only the part of the support that we got. So let's start shifting into that. Oh my gosh.

Because we have received hundreds of emails and it hasn't stopped no um it's amazing yeah i mean we've had i had to i've had to write this down because i didn't want to forget people but um we we have some really close friends from across the country that have been reaching out to us on a weekly basis just texting us and a one-liner how is it yeah it's friday you made it through another week yeah you know and just a little a little emoji blowing my kiss right and that and that's all i need i don't need you know a couple paragraphs although a couple paragraphs are great because we're getting awesome emails too, but just people are just thinking about us and they're just truly lifting us up.

Yes. And then we had so many different, I mean, we've had professional counselors reach out to us. These are all people that are in the lifestyle. Oh, yeah. Professional counselors, therapists, a financial planner in one case. You must have known that one of us was trying to lose a job. Yeah, I'm going to send you some resources. And I just want you to take a look at this. And if you want to talk about it, call me. And we're doing it. Right. We're on it. Yeah, we are. We've had attorneys reach out to us. Yep.

And I think one of the most interesting things is we've had about five or six different clergy reach out to us. I think it's more than that. Yeah, probably is. And two of them said, here's my first name. Here's my mobile number. Call me. And if you think about the level of trust that that takes for somebody who is a pastor pastor who is either in the lifestyle or interested in the lifestyle to reach out to us. Give us their phone numbers. And we did. We talked to a couple of them on the phone at length and then followed up even with email.

Another pastor and his wife have been corresponding with us from another country through email on occasion. And one of them, we just get texts, how's it going? Are you still doing okay? We're still praying for you.

And a lot of them have been really, really frank conversations about, look, yes, people are going to be judgmental, but also remember that people are hurting because of what they've learned and and so we're we're getting good honest counsel and and from professionals and from people well these are people that can see both sides of the coin yeah yeah and and that's really helping us because we're so hurt we're you know it kind of gives us tunnel vision yeah so that's been amazing and then of course the podcast community um we've heard from page and pen we skyped we skyped with them early on and you know one of the things that he said and he says so much but there was one thing that he said that stuck out and that was i remember saying how one particular conversation had gone with a family member and that had taken like two hours or and he said look you guys don't have two hours to give to everybody that you know so don't think you have to sit everybody down you're going to drive yourself bananas you know you're going to get to a certain point and then you're just going to have to let it go and whatever it is, it is.

So that was really good advice that we got from Paige and Penn. Also, we heard from J and K from That Couple Next Door podcast. J and Angie reached out to us, Two or More to Tango, T and A from The Curious Couple, and of course C&D from Swinging Down Under. They've been awesome. Cooper from Life on the Swing Set, our friends from Beyond Our Bedroom blog and Small Town Swinging and The Real Talk Between the Sheets podcast. And then we heard from John and Jackie Melfi from Open Love 101. And I'm going to share some of what she shared with us in a minute. Actually, I'm going to share that now.

It's super helpful. Yeah. One of the things that, because they are out. I mean, they are John and Jackie Melfi. Their pictures are out and they're, you know, they're out, out. And the one thing that Jackie said was, I'm just going to read it in a message that she said.

And one of things that she says my gut response to you've been outed is oh my gosh that's fantastic now you can live your life wide open I said well you know maybe in a few months I'll have that fantastic wasn't the first word that came to my mind but one of the things that she said was I know for me when I was first tackling my own belief system against the belief system of my youth, I initially struggled against the assurance of trusting me. And I think that's very powerful. And a lot of us struggle with this as we come into the lifestyle.

You have this belief system now, and you have a belief system of your youth or earlier in life. And the struggle is to trust you, to trust who you've become. And I thought that was really profound. So again, great advice coming from them.

We've got a couple thousand people in our Cassidy community and they've been really supportive reaching out to us lifestyle friends across the country that we've met at different occasions either at Desire or in New Orleans or just traveling have reached out to us and then our regular emailers have reached out to us and if this is what it takes to get some of you who have not emailed us to email us we've heard from so many people that we've never heard of before, so thank you for that, and we've replied to everything that we've gotten. I'm looking for a text from one of our friends.

He said, my wife and I have a saying that says, it's us against the world. we mean that as long as we have each other no one else matters as much you know so i mean that's that's the bottom line you know they that people are just kind of helping us put things in perspective right and these and these little bits of advice have come on just the right day yeah at just the right time yeah as we've been struggling and working through things. Well, this couple that texted us that message, we had made plans to have dinner with them.

And it was a weeknight dinner, so there wasn't going to be anything going on other than just meeting for dinner. And we had planned that just before we had had that really bad week. And this was like the night after we had had a really rough evening and it was just oh we met him at the restaurant and i just remember it just felt so good when they walked in and i got to hug them and it was just a hug but it just felt so good because they poured so much unconditional love and friendship into that hug yeah and. And that was already on the calendar. And again, I don't think that was a coincidence.

Yeah. Yeah, that's right. His quote about us against the world. Yeah. Because that's what we felt like at that point in time. Yeah. Yeah. I think we were feeling very alienated and isolated. Yeah. And they've been reaching out to us yeah you know regularly too yeah so the the um support has been amazing so then what occurred was we got to go away for the weekend yes mrs jones's birthday yeah weekend i love my birthday. And so we went to the beach for a long weekend. Yeah, it was awesome.

Yeah, and again, it was something that was already on the calendar, and it came at just the right time because it's a six-and-a-half-hour drive or seven-hour drive, and we're in the car together, and we're able to get away from our community and our neighborhood and our family and our friends. And it's just the two of us stuck in this car. Yeah. We're in the beach house for the weekend, and the weather was beautiful, and we had a lot of good conversations. And I think the way that it started, I'm not sure. Well, you like to take walks on the beach. Yes.

And so we did a lot of our talking as we were walking on the beach. One day, I think we took like a four-mile walk. And yeah, like our feet were like all messed up. It would have been longer, but I had to go to the bathroom. Like if we're going to walk this far, we've got to find a pit stop somewhere. We're going to wade out into the water, and it was still cold.

Oh, yeah, oh the other water was way too cold to get in yeah but i remember the first day that we were there and we were laying in our beach chairs and i looked over at you and i said okay honey this is the moment of truth and you said what and i said are you in are you all in yeah and you said i'm in yeah and then we did fist bump. Yeah. And from that point forward in the weekend, we started looking forward. Well, right. We had a direction. Yeah. Yeah.

So I think we spent four days just talking and just kind of tackling one thing at a time, you know, and we pretty much reserved that for when we were taking a walk or I made Mr. Jones run with me one morning and I didn't eat breakfast before. It was a walk. And it was hot. It was hot and I didn't eat breakfast. So, yeah, we ended up doing a lot of walking. I said you could go on. Yeah, I know what you said. Yeah, I wasn't born yesterday. So, yeah, so we ended up having an opportunity to talk on that run since we weren't running. Yeah. So we really kind of made some plans.

I think I made peace about my retirement that weekend. I came to terms with it. And Mr. Jones is, he's a very much an optimist. He can always see the good in any situation. So, you know, I'm moaning about the, you know, the prospect of leaving my job and leaving all my work friends and that kind of stuff. And he's like, but think about this. I mean, you're going to have the opportunity to do this. And you're going to have the opportunity to do that. And we're going to have the opportunity to do more stuff together. And he just kind of made me see, again, things from a different perspective.

Yeah. Well, we're at a different phase in life now and we would have been having these conversations regardless of the timing would have been different but we would be having the same conversations right but you know it's just I want to be a contributor and a financial contributor as well as you know every other type of contributor. Yeah. Well, so that's when we committed to the podcast. That's when I was like, phew, okay, good, because I've been telling these people we're coming back. I was hoping that that was going to happen. And then we set a date.

We said, okay, this is the date you're retiring, and this is the date we want to put this out um and that date is here so right but but what but the other thing that um kind of a segue from the support is that what we want to do with we got a thing is worth talking about yeah i think we what we just experienced we realized we can to use in a positive way yeah so not only are we not going to stop podcasting but we are going to grow our little enterprise and part of it as i as i just went through all of the support that we got and and one of the things i thought about because we got some emails from people our friends in las vegas and others who have been through very similar Thank you.

we got and and the one of the things that i thought about because we got some emails from people our friends in las vegas and others who have been through very similar situations that we're going through yeah but they did not have access to the amount of support that we did because of our podcast and our relationship with our our listeners and so i thought wouldn't it be great if we could help build a community where people that were a part of the we gotta think community had access to the same type of support that we had access to yeah and so that is really the that's going to be the central focus of what we build our community around and our podcast and our brand around.

Because we want you all to be able to connect. And if you think about the meet and greets and how well people get along and we think alike and we have a lot in common. And if you listen to us and you enjoy what we say, then what happens normally is that when we get together as a group, you connect better because we're like-minded. You know, you know, another really ironic thing is our last episode was on friendships in the lifestyle, you know, and that's exactly what we've been leaning on. Yes. You know, the past month or so.

So we just want to give you guys that opportunity as well because we have gotten a lot of comments and questions on that. How do you make friends in the lifestyle? So if we can build some sort of a network that makes it easier for you guys to connect. Yes. And I don't know if you meant to do that, but the workshop that we're doing at Noddy New Orleans is about connecting with other couples. Yes. And that's going to be Thursday at noon. Yes, it is. At Noddy in New Orleans. Yes, it is. We'll talk about that. Yeah, so that's the whole idea. And so we have got six or seven episodes in the hopper.

We've got a lot of good ideas that we've already got sketched out. We've got two or three bonus episodes of people that want to come on that we really want to talk to and share with.

We have somebody who wants to be a guest guest blogger um we have got a a new revamped newsletter coming out as a matter of fact when we speak and you hear this it might be out it's going to be happening around the same time within a week or so yeah so we're really excited about that project um we're putting some more content on our website like mrs jones's cocktails are going to be on the website and and the newsletter is going to have a little bit of a different flavor um we're going to do more meet and greets yeah yeah and hey you know what you're retired we can travel to do meet and greets that's right so if you want to invite us to your town we might be able to right if you want to set up a meet and greet, let us know.

See, he's forever the optimist. Yeah, that's right. I mean, we're thinking about doing lifestyle coaching. We're thinking about webinars and workshops. We're redefining the lifestyle. Yes. Or helping to define the lifestyle socially like we do. Right.

And this whole episode and this everything that we're going through is a classic example of what the lifestyle is and the type of people that are in this community yeah and when i say community i mean there are we got a lot of emails from people who said we're not even in the lifestyle we may never be but we just like the way that everybody thinks and we like the way that people are so open and non-judgmental and so that's a big part of it and they like listening to how we manage our relationship because it helps them deepen their relationship even though it has nothing to do with swinging it has to do with you know communicating and connecting right so we have a lot in store yeah and since you're unemployed maybe i'll hire you to do some more work I'll see you next time.

Right. So we have a lot in store. Yeah. And since you're unemployed, maybe I'll hire you to do some more work. I don't come cheap. No. I know, but we need to go see a tax accountant and a business attorney. There's a lot of work we still have to do. We have a lot to learn. Yes, we do. Yeah. So I think... But we're in it together. We are in it together. And we're not going to do... I'm going to make a little midstream switch here. I don't have snapshots for you tonight. Well, we do, but we just hadn't planned on sharing them. Yeah. We've created some really good ones.

But we do have a couple of emails that I'd like to read and some closing thoughts about this ordeal before we close out tonight. So why don't we take a really quick break since I'm drinking. What are we drinking? It's some sort of mojito. We had these last year when we were in Miami after our cruise a year ago. And it's called a luxury mojito.

And it just your normal like rum and mint and lime but instead of topping it with like sparkling water or club soda you top it with prosecco yeah well it's a decadent yeah it's pretty good i have to admit but it's a big that's high praise coming from mr jones yeah so i need to take a break. So when we come back, we're going to read a couple emails and we're going to give you our closing thoughts and then we're going to promise you that we will be back in 30 days. Yes, we will. All right, we'll be right back. Thank you. So welcome back to our quasi-snapshot segment of the evening.

These are two messages we received from listeners over the past past month it was hard to choose just two i know and we might have to share more in the future yeah um that just such heartfelt um thoughtful messages i mean people aren't just saying hope you're doing okay, looking forward to your return. They're really like sharing stories of things that they've gone through or their, I guess, decisions to enter the lifestyle themselves and how they've kind of managed that. And it's just been really amazing, the depth of support that we've gotten from people. Yeah. That we don't even know. Yeah.

Thank you. really amazing the um the depth of support that we've gotten from people yeah so that we don't even know yeah yeah again it it's just it's incredible yeah um there's a lot of trust that um has to occur in the lifestyle you know face to face obviously when you're getting ready to be intimate with someone. But then, you know, the emotional trust that's there when people reach out to us. I mean, they don't know us. And they share some just really deep, intimate things about their hearts.

And I just really can't express how much we have appreciated that and how much it's made a difference in our recovery yes so to speak so um this first one is uh starts out that says my husband and i are both from deeply rooted religious dogma of the south we have both been stretched in our faith as it relates to the overreaching premise that the good news of the Christian gospel is love. Our decision to pursue this lifestyle quest in marital utopia, opening up our box in order to share it with others, is our decision and our decision alone. That is our good news.

Ultimately, we love and desire each other and wish to explore these things and or people that will add to our end of the day goal which is sustainable exciting and passionate love for each other the implementation of compersion allows us to witness happiness and joy in the face of the other The physical pleasure that is brought about while sharing friendships and intimacies is within the box of our partnership and can be appreciated, judged, or halted by us alone. We are encouraged by the manner in which you are handling this present situation.

Do remember, as you well know, at the end of the day, it's all about the two of you. Thank you for your transparency and allowing your community See you next time. situation, do remember, as you well know, at the end of the day, it's all about the two of you. Thank you for your transparency and allowing your community to be armor bearers to you. Your community of lifestyle friends is behind you. We look forward to your triumphant return, and we grow more and more excited each day about meeting you at Desire. Until then, we raise a glass to you both, Maker's Mark for Mr.

J and the Core 43 for Mrs. J. That was a good one. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, we look forward to meeting you guys at Desire. Definitely. The reason I chose this one that I'm going to read is because, first of all, it has nothing to do with sex. And we get so many messages from people. We got an email from a gentleman today that was really nice, and a lot of people feel like they need to qualify their messages and say they're not in the lifestyle, and they, and they may never be, um, intimate with or play with other couples.

And I just want you all to know that are in that grouping that you probably make up the majority of our listeners. So, um, this message is somebody from, that is not claiming to be in the lifestyle, but it really touches on the on the heart of what we try to do. So let me start. So basically, I am a closet listener at the moment. However, I am trying to work up the courage to find the right time to let my wife in on the sexy adventures of Mr. and Mrs. Jones. If I'm being honest, what originally lured me in was the taboo and naughtiness of your stories.

But after only a couple of episodes, I had become enamored with the manner in which you two express your love and admiration for one another. Through this, I have come to realize that the communication that is shared between the two of you is something that is lacking in my own marriage. So I'm not writing to say that I'm ready to jump into the lifestyle or even considering it, but just that I have developed an urge to communicate and to admire and to love my spouse in a much deeper way. Again, thanks to you both, your closet vanilla listener. That's pretty cool. Yeah.

So I know we have people listening that don't normally listen, and these two messages here encapsulate the core of what we believe the lifestyle to be right and hopefully a lot of people can get to a point someday and understand that this is the reason that we do this this is the reason we i share this gentleman's sentiment and and we've shared tonight about how our relationship has grown and we know that it's real and we know we have our own little box and that we know we're beholden to no one. And we know that this is real and that, and we know that we've grown as individuals and as couples.

And, you know, I mean, I think my final thoughts for tonight are, um, you were talking about, you made me state a long time ago, what do you want to get out of this? Oh, right, yeah. So I think the question that I've had to answer the past couple of months has been, what have I learned and and what have i observed you know about you and the thing that i've learned uh about myself is is that everything that i've talked about and i've shared over the past 36 episodes um has has compiled itself into making me a different person.

And, um, and I believe the person that it's made me into is better than the person that I was. I agree with that. Not that you weren't amazing before, but you're just, you're stronger. You're more confident. You're more insightful and I mean you're I don't know I think you're more confident, you're more insightful. And, I mean, you're, I don't know, I think you're amazing. Thank you. You'll get your chance in a minute. Okay. And so, not only that, but I think I understand things better. I understand people better.

I understand what i believe and why i believe it um i understand who i am as a christian and i understand my faith and i understand how faith is different than church and church is different than religion and and i and i see these things are real and i feel like this is the way that we were designed to be and i have a lot of confidence It's about that. When I look at you, and I see these things are real, and I feel like this is the way that we were designed to be, and I have a lot of confidence about that.

When I look at you, and I think I touched on this early on, when the first time that we had to tell somebody, our family, what we were going through, and I looked over at you, and you were animated, and you had hands going and you were you were telling our story and even though they were had the deer in the headlights look they did you were you were just you were leaning forward you were making eye contact you were speaking confidently and and that was like just a few days into this and I thought you know're going to be fine. Because watching you, I said, she really believes what she's saying.

And because you believe what you're saying, the people that are listening, that are really listening, it makes a difference to them, I think, in their understanding of what we do based on how you delivered the information. And so I think that gave me from early on in this little crisis peace of mind that we were going to be okay.

And watching you do that gave me that little bit of boost and confidence and spark that I knew that, you know, it energized me and it motivated me, you know, to lift my chin up and not be embarrassed or ashamed and to tell people quite honestly and frankly, you know, who we are. And I keep thinking, how ironic is it that there are tens of thousands of people out there that listen to us, that know us better than some of the people that we're closest to.

And so I want to be authentic in the relationships that, and maybe part of this is that I haven't been authentic to the people that are in my vanilla world. And maybe I need, maybe I need to do a better job at that. So anyway, you know, I know not a lot of this is in our rear view mirror and there's going to be more, you know, coming down the road. Um, but I already feel like we're doing the right thing. I feel like we're in a better spot and I feel like we're going to come through this, um, stronger individually and stronger as a couple. Yeah, I agree.

Um, you know, I, I wouldn't want to go through this alone. No, I don't think you could. No. And, and, um, just knowing that we have each other to lean on and that we're, and that we're like-minded and, um. And just the fact that we both have been confident in moving forward together tells me that this has been a good thing for our relationship. And if we didn't have the communication skills that we have honed over the past three years, this could have ended up being really rough. It is really rough, but really rough individually, I guess. It could have been damaging.

Yeah, and I think it's, to me, it's magnified how strong we are as a couple. Yeah.

So, you know, I don't know how people could say that's a bad thing yeah no i agree so let's um let's go out on a positive note yeah let's talk about some fun stuff so we have naughty in new orleans coming up in two weeks and the annual lifestyle awards for 2017 are out and a lot of your favorite podcasts are listed along with blogs and clubs and events and resorts and other things and so we will have a link to that website but the website is annual lifestyle awards.com annual lifestyle awards.com yep so if you'll go there and vote you'll see us on there and you'll see a lot of other podcasters and we'd appreciate it if you would there's clubs and events and all kinds of things you can vote for in the lifestyle community also at nodding new orleans um since our website is back up if you're going to be there and you have not signed up for our meet and greet please go to our website and and in the upper right-hand corner, you'll see NIN meet and greet.

And we just need your first names and your email address. And when we get that, we will send you the details of where we're going to be. But we can tell you that it is Wednesday afternoon, July 5th, from 5 until 630. Right. So if you're going to be in town, if you're coming into town early enough, we'd love to see you there. Sign up and we will send you the location. A couple other things. We have a workshop. And what's our workshop going to be about? It's on connecting with couples and the lifestyle. I don't think we really have the title worked out yet. No.

But that's going to be Thursday, the 6th at noon yes and that'll be in your guide your schedule for yeah it'll tell you what ballroom it's in or whatever and i think there's a podcast panel the next afternoon maybe friday afternoon at 4 4 30 and it's not at 10 freaking o'clock in the morning this year yeah yeah shoo. Shoo. So if you're coming to NIN, we want to meet you. If you can't make our meet and greet, please try to come to our workshop or just catch us sometime during the weekend. We're looking forward to catching up with a lot of our friends there. Yep. We could use some hugs. Yeah.

And of course we have our desire trip in November that's's sold out oh we had a couple cancelled this week so if you're on the waiting list you might want to check that's right there's a waiting list yeah that's coming up in november i can't wait so we have a lot going on we have a lot of podcast topics in the hopper we are happy to be back online we have somebody who's volunteered to create some music for us and he's doing a great job he's doing a great job so yeah stay tuned we're gonna have some original music if and he's doing a he's working pretty quickly so we'll have that out for you to listen to soon so that's what we have up.

What did I miss? Anything? I think we're good to go for now. Thanks for the therapy session, guys. Yeah, yeah. We really appreciate that. And again, we... I think we'll have our mojo back by the time we do episode 38. And we'll probably go back to more familiar format. Yeah, I mean, you can probably tell tonight that we're a little bit more melancholy. Sorry, I know. Sorry. I'm a hot, snotty mess.

Yeah, I mean, I think I was really looking forward to getting in front of this microphone again, but I was also dreading it a little bit because we're a little rusty and because of where we are emotions are still kind of raw yeah very raw so we appreciate your patience as we work through this but hopefully new orleans will get us our mojo back oh no doubt yeah we're looking forward to that nothing like hanging out with like 2 000 like-minded people Now, you can email us, please, MrJones at WeGotAThing.com or... MrsJones at WeGotAThing.com. And our wonderful website is back up, WeGotAThing.com.

Follow us on Twitter at WeGotAThing or join our Cassidy community, which we've done most of our communicating. Yeah. Yeah. But please sign up for our newsletter because that'll make Mr. Jones so happy. And it's so much easier to communicate when we can just send out one message to everybody. Yes. We promise not to spam you. Right. Right. It's only when we need to get in touch with you. Oh, no. It's when our newsletter comes out, too. Well, it's true. And our newsletter's going to be worth reading. Yep. Just put it that way. Okay. Well, thanks for listening. We are Mr. and Mrs.

Jones, and we got a thing. What's your thing? Are you ready? I'm ready.