Keeping up with the Joneses Dinner with new friends, hosting new friends in the "Swinger Pad" and a night out with Jay and Kay from That Couple Next Door podcast. Discussion topic We recap our trip to Temptation Resort in Cancun and discuss our penchant for attracting and helping "newbies" move forward in the lifestyle. Connection, confidence and communication! Snapshots Listeners "M and A" share a sexy story, Mr Jones recounts a happy ending with Tony and Mrs Jones shares a memory from her birthday weekend at Temptation. Mentioned in this episode That Couple Next Door podcast with Jay and Kay Temptation Resort, Cancun Mexico Lifestyle Awards voting for your favorite podcast! Contact us Mr Jones's email- [email protected] Mrs Jones's email- [email protected] Twitter- @wegottathing Website- wegottathing.com Music licensed by BMI Me and Mrs Jones- Billy Paul
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This podcast contains explicit language and content and is for mature audiences only. Hey you teenagers out there, if you're under 18, this show is more for your parents. So now that you have that mental picture stuck in your head, put some music on and get back to doing your homework. We are a long-time married couple who's decided to chronicle our personal adventures and share our sex-positive discussions as we navigate our way through the swinging lifestyle. Care to join us? Well, hello, everyone. I'm Mr. Jones. And I'm Mrs.
Jones, and we want to welcome you to episode 24 of the We Got a Thing podcast. So, honey, it's a beautiful, beautiful Friday night here in Virginia. Month of June. Nice out. Mango martini night. Mango martini night. We grilled some pizzas out. Mr. Jones can grill some pizzas. You know what? It's really easy. Yeah, it is. If you have the right equipment. I mean, you just get the pizza stone. You get your grill up to 500, 600 degrees. Put it on there for six minutes. It's done. Yep. And it's tasty. Yeah, it was really good. I like it when you get it all crispy around the edges. It was tasty.
Yeah, this is drink number. I like it when you get it all crispy around the edges, and it was tasty. Yeah, this is drink number three. Yeah. Because what did we start with? Like some strawberry lemonade. Yeah, it was that thing you made up. Yeah, I took fresh strawberries and muddled them with some mint and then put some lemonade in there and some vodka and some lime juice. And then, of course, with the pizza, I had to have beer. Yeah. And I can't drink beer during the podcast, so we had to switch to mango. Nope. I had to cut you off. Too many bodily noises. I know.
Either you burp with your beer or you clink your ice with your bourbon. You got it rough, honey. I know. So tonight the episode 24. So the newbie whispers. Yes.
Why are we talking about about the newbie whispers because we've had some encounters with newbies lately yes and they've been mostly positive yes but they've all been memorable yes they've all been memorable we've learned a lot from each one of them yep and we and and again it's so funny we decide on a topic and then just like there's like karma out there because then we'll be getting messages from listeners that'll deal with like newbie issues yes so it all kind of tied together nicely yes so before we start into segment one with keeping up with the joneses we've got a couple updates for you first of all let's talk about the website gotta get the nerdy stuff out of the way yeah the website is coming along we've we've settled on a platform and a theme and we've got our graphics designer has has rendered a few more iterations of jessica our our logo and she's in different positions and they're very cute yes we're going to introduce her new renderings on the new website.
And probably I would say within the next month or two, it'll be ready to go. But still, still moving forward on that. We're really, I'm really having a good time. You are. Yeah. And then of course, the big news is that what is we got about what, two more weeks? Three more weeks.
Yeah, I think naughty in new orleans yeah 2016 yep starting to think about packing already can you believe this is our third i know where has the time gone no we're really looking forward to this year i think each year the first year was that we were a little bit nervous a little bit nervous i was terrified the second year we were a lot more comfortable yeah this year we're really really we're really involved this time too yeah we're gonna do a we're gonna do a workshop on setting rules and boundaries in the lifestyle yeah that's thursday at noon yeah and you and i will be doing that together and we hope that if you're attending and you can't make our meet and greet Well even if you can We hope that you'll come to that If you look on your schedule We'll be at noon on Thursday It's perfect timing Because they can come at noon To the workshop And then it'll be over at 1 And then we can go hit all the bar takeovers We also got some goodies That we're going to bring with us to hand out.
Yeah, we ordered some stuff that's got our logo on it, and we'll come prepared. Yes. And that's Thursday. But prior to that, Wednesday, of course, is our meet and greet. Yes. And we've got 20, 22 couples coming to that, so that should be a lot of fun. We have room for more. We do.
So if you have not heard heard from me send me an email and i'll give you the location but we're really looking forward to that and then what else are we doing we're doing oh the podcast there's a podcast panel yeah podcast q a panel and that's a brutal 10 o'clock in the morning on friday yeah that's when it was last year and that's pretty painful yes but we are really looking you get a cup of coffee there's a brutal 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday. Yeah, that's when it was last year, and that was pretty painful. But we are really looking. You get a cup of coffee.
There's a Starbucks right across the street. And you go out and get yourself a cup of coffee and a little muffin or whatever and come on and sit with us and wake up with us because we'll be drinking our coffee at that point in time too. We're not sure.
We know that most podcasters will be in the vicinity yeah last year it was john and ally and uh the swap foos and others but uh jay and angie but this year we're actually going to see tna from curious couple yeah we're going to be there c and d from swinging down under and alan ellie from the aussie swingers yeah so we haven't met them yet we've corresponded with them but it's going to be there, C and D from Swinging Down Under. And Al and Ellie from the Aussie Swingers. Yeah, so we haven't met them yet. We've corresponded with them, but it's going to be great to meet them.
So we're really looking forward to that. Yes. So, yeah, what a whirlwind. Old friends, new friends. They're all sexy friends. That's the important thing. Yeah, that is the important thing.
I like it because you've been getting all these emails and texts about what ladies should bring, i always throw my two cents in i know so tonight it was like i said um you know during the day just wear shorts and a tank top because it's so hot in new orleans in july and and mr jones was like well and just remember there's like a no bra rule tell her not to wear a bra yeah optional right yeah yeah I don't think there'll be a lot of bras. Yeah. They just get in the way. Yeah.
So it seems like every day I come home from work, there's a new Amazon box outside with something that, some sort of wardrobe. Well, I got to get ready. Yeah. And then, you know, the following month we have desire. So I'm just kind of thinking big picture here. Yeah, well, hopefully you haven't forgotten me. What am I wearing? Guys are easy. You just wear jeans and a shirt at night. It's so easy for you. You know, if it's blackout night, it's, you know, jeans and a black shirt. Well, I do have a complaint about the new underwear you've been buying me. I know. I'm sorry. I'm not a guy.
I don't get it. Well, think about it. I mean, this chalky underwear you got me, the P-holes in the middle. That's where your penis is. It's like right there. But my other underwear, the P-holes on the right. And so normally, I know women don't think about this. No, I don't.
No no you think our lives are so simple as men but when you unzip you got to pull the fly open with your left hand and normally you're reaching in with your index finger and you can get the pee hole and the other side of your fly this is kind of too much information at the same time and then you pull it all apart and then just it flips right out and you're good to go now i got this jockey brand and the p-holes in the middle and then it just next thing i know i'm you told me to buy them for you because you you like the fabric it was like you know the dry fit you know microfiber or whatever kind of i know but we need to get all of those and throw the other ones away because the last thing i have to train you on on how the underwear is constructed at the urinal i got both hands up to my elbows and my fly trying to figure out where the hole is because at 4 30 in the morning i don't remember what kind of underwear i put on all the other guys in the bathroom were like do you need some privacy or what i know it's embarrassing so p hole in the middle is okay then we got to get rid of all the others.
Okay, I'll work on it. Yeah. All right. Enough of that. Let's get back to the podcast. So keeping up with the Joneses. Finally keeping up with the Joneses. What have we been up to? Well, if we try to go in chronological order, I think the first thing we did is we had a couple that actually flew into town.
Speaking newbies yeah speaking of newbies we had a couple contact us and ask if they could take us out to dinner and they flew into town from new england just to take us out to dinner i know that was really cool i know it was really cool and they were just a great couple and we found a restaurant where we could have private conversation because it it was pretty close to where we live so um you know we were looking for discretion as well yeah it was in an old old downtown townhouse that was converted to a restaurant and the root cellar was a separate dining area yeah so they actually took the root cellar and finished it although there were like these exposed like original beams from like the civil war era that um that ran across the ceiling like i mean even i had to duck yeah to get under the beams but it was perfect for a swinger conversation because it was amazing it was brick you know there was a lot of wood the sound was absorbed and you knew the waiter because he would come down the steps we got to go behind the bar and go like down the secret passageway to get to that room yeah because you walk in and you're like okay well where's the staircase and you couldn't see it yeah so like yeah you literally had to go almost into the kitchen and then yeah and then down so the only problem is that the bathroom was up on the main level so you had to come up through the kitchen to go to the bathroom but that just kind of was all part of the adventure but they had really nice music piped in down there and there's lots of candlelight it was a great meal too it was oh and the food was amazing but yeah it's and you and i had a really interesting cocktail remember it had like cucumber and basil and jalapeno.
Yeah, I don't even remember what it was called. I just said, whatever you recommend. Yeah, I think it had gin in it. It was really good. So yeah, it was a great time talking to them. Yeah, it's really, I mean, I just like, especially when listeners, and you all know us so much better than we know you. So it's just fun for us to sit and listen to a couple talk and get to know the people that we connect with through the podcast. We had a really great time, and we were flattered that they came all that way just to have dinner with us. That was nice.
Then there was another couple that came through town. They were visiting in Washington, D.C.
again yeah we get the advantage for especially this time of year dc starts to get real touristy and they came into town they listened to our podcast but we also have mutual friends and um that was kind of cool yeah so they had come into town on vacation and they stayed up in the district for a couple events that were going on up there but yeah Saturday night Saturday afternoon they came down to our house and we hung out and before we had emailed and then texted and then skyped with them before they came here so we got to know them really well before that day and then we we just brought them down here for dinner.
Well, more than dinner, they brought beer and some sort of fancy chocolates that I got in trouble for popping the whole thing in my mouth. Evidently, you're supposed to take little bites of it and share it with other people. Although it's only like not even a half inch by a half inch by a half inch. You just needed a nibble so you could get the flavor.
I at that little they were hand painted it just makes you mad to take a little bite like that i didn't know there were eight chocolates i got in trouble because everybody wanted four of us everyone wanted to taste i know and i just pop that one down and then everyone's looking at me like what did i do i think coffee one, right? Because nobody got to taste the coffee one. I don't know. It was good. It was like a lavender one and a sea salt caramel one and some sort of a spicy like Thai one. You girls were oohing and ahing over it. Oh, they were really interesting. Let's eat it.
Oh, you just don't understand. No, I do understand. Just buy you a Hershey bar and shove it in your mouth. Well, they brought beer, too. They did, and the beer was really good. I probably appreciated the beer more than the chocolate. But we cooked out on the grill and had fun with them. Yep, we did. More fun in our twinger pad. Yep. Especially in the summer. It stays nice and cool down here. Yep. I got to play the dumb card game again.
yeah did play the dumb card game works every time yeah yeah so thanks guys we really enjoyed our time together and of course we had a visit from tony but everybody knows that because we did our special bonus episode yes yeah so we don't need to talk about him i'm not allowed to talk about it anymore because you got distracted last time. It was like I was talking by myself the whole time. I had this gorgeous guy sitting like right up against me. Like we were literally like smashed against each other because we had to share a microphone. Well, it's good to have you back tonight. I feel like...
My head's in the game today. Yeah, your head's in the game and you're paying attention to me. Although I could think of when we finish recording, we get to eat dinner and then we get to play. I know what you were thinking of. I'll see you next time.
attention to me although i could think of is it when we finish recording we get to eat dinner and then we get to play i know i know what you were thinking of i was too honestly oh well good i'm glad to know that yeah and then uh oh then we also had fun with jay and k oh that's right that couple next door podcast yeah we found out and we mentioned them before because we both ran the same half marathon so the four of us went out for drinks did we have dinner or we just had we just ended up eating appetizers yeah so we went to a small town here in northern virginia and um had appetizers and then we went to another restaurant and it was called the cock and bowl it's funny those two are a hoot especially oh yeah and and it was called the cock and bowl funny those those two are a hoot and especially oh yeah and uh kay i have some advice for you i've just i've listened to all your podcasts i'm going to recommend that you drink a bottle of water between each glass of wine i know had a little bit of a struggle there um you guys need to listen to the first few episodes to know what i'm talking about, but she made it through the evening, uh, unscathed with us.
But, uh, we went to another place called the cock and bowl and they were selling these t-shirts and it was funny because our waiter, we need to give a shout out to Josh. Hi, Josh. He was fantastic.
And we got there late and it was a nice evening and we were sitting outside and I think there was one other couple if you notice two tables away and they were just listening to our because at that point in time Jay and Kay the four of us were comfortable and we had been drinking and we were pretty loud we were very loud and we were not being discreet at all the other couple wasn't even talking they were just sitting over there listening to us and then Josh kind of you have four podcasters at the same table that have been drinking oh my gosh and the waiter was gay Thank you.
sitting over there listening to us but and then josh kind of four podcasters at the same table that have been drinking oh my gosh yeah the waiter the waiter and the waiter was gay he came right out and told us so we he pulled up a chair and we started talking with him well he had a shirt on that said team cock because it's the cock bowl so of course mrs jones and k had to buy team cock t-shirts which i'm sure you'll be modeling it naughty in New Orleans oh yeah we're totally wearing those one day yeah so it was just funny that um you know Jay was kind of picking on the guy well we all we all were but he was taking it in in stride he was giving it right back he was telling us about his life story he had moved from Ohio to Virginia and he does pet pet grooming on the side and yeah he pulled up a chair and started chatting with us and so we and we ended up telling them that we were podcasters we gave him our business card yeah so he's gonna listen so we're we owe josh's shout out so hey we had fun with them and uh we're definitely gonna see jay and k we're neighbors well they're coming down for dinner next week yeah how can we not or we're getting together somehow we haven't set plans yet But yeah, I'm looking forward to that Jay and Kay.
We're neighbors. Well, they're coming down for dinner next week. Yeah. How can we not? Or we're getting together somehow. We haven't set plans yet, but yeah. We're looking forward to that. I know. That'll be fun. Yeah. And then lastly, we went to Temptation in Mexico. Yes. It was so much fun. And we're not going to talk about that now. But we are going to talk about it.
I mean, it was, it was a was a really interesting experience it you know it's owned by the same company that runs the desire resort so you know we we knew it was going to be similar but it was also very different well and people asked us because we love desire pearl so much then people said well why are you going to temptation and because we had canceled a trip last year we had airline tickets that we had to use before June, the first week of June. And it was going to be cheaper for us to fly to Mexico than it would be to go to Myrtle beach is what we normally do.
Um, and temptation was really a lot cheaper than desire. And we got a direct flight. So we were there at noon. We were at the resort at noon onurday and stayed for three days yeah through mrs jones's birthday weekend it was the best birthday weekend yes so we're gonna tell you and we met a couple of newbie couples hence the theme yes we had a really good time with them so when we come back we're going to talk about our sexy times and our fun times at Temptation.
But really, what we found at Temptation was, you know, we met two great couples in particular, we met tons of wonderful people, but two couples in particular that were either extremely new to the lifestyle or fairly new to the lifestyle. And we just want to talk about our experiences with them and kind of the things that happened in the periphery around I'll see you next time. new to the lifestyle or fairly new to the lifestyle. And, uh, we just want to talk about our experiences with them and kind of the things that happened in the periphery around, um, our time with them.
And it just, the whole newbie theme just seemed to be jumping out at us. Yeah. Throughout the whole weekend. Yeah. And then we're going to share at the end of this segment, we're going to share an email that we that we got from a listener um who's also a newbie that ties in with what we want to talk about but you know first of all the resort itself you know it's funny that a lot of people ask what's the difference between desire rm and desire pearl and temptation really doesn't come into play a lot because it's not the same theme as desire. It's not clothing optional. You can go topless.
Right. Right. But you can only go topless at that. Well, I saw people at the quiet pool topless. Yeah. So you can go topless at the pool. And the other difference is it's adult only instead of couples only. So which means you get a lot of single, and some single girls. So you'll have a group of guys come down there or a bachelorette party, you know, they'll, they'll come in for the day. So, and that really, it makes it a much more party atmosphere. It was like spring break, sort of an atmosphere. Yes.
It was exactly like a spring break you know like a grown-up spring break and i thought it was really interesting that we we told a lot of people there that we had been to desire because everybody wants when you meet people common question is have you been here before and we said no this is our first time but we've been to desire pearl several times and and it was funny because here we were at temptation where people were crazy dancing, drinking, topless, you know, just spring break atmosphere. And when you said Pearl or RM, they were like, oh, oh, wow. That's kind of, that's hardcore.
And I, and I'm thinking the opposite because at Pearl or RM, it's a little bit more laid back and, and it's not as big of a party scene, but of course it's much more sensual and sexual and i i'd imagine the people at pearl and rm would think temptation is crazy just like the people that go to temptation think pearl is crazy right so it was really interesting it depends on your definition of crazy yeah but the facility was nice you know they're getting ready to renovate they're going to do a big renovation in september so they're actually closing it for 10 months yeah but the room we stayed in was really nice yeah i mean it was uh modern and clean and everything worked you know i i actually thought the resort itself was nice as it was but but they uh had tons of like their website is full of like a gallery of of all the renderings of what it's going to look like and how they're going to reconfigure because they actually have a lot of real estate um right there in downtown cancun and and they could probably use it more efficiently and i think that's really their objective i think it is like the oldest resort building in cancun yeah that's what we were told there, yeah, I think it's going to be amazing once they renovate it.
Yeah. So basically, you know, without the hot tub there, the, the typical day at temptation is you wake up, you had, you do have to go fight for a chair. Yeah. Yeah. That was one difference because at Pearl, they pretty much save your chair for you, but you had to get up early and fight for a chair around the pool. Then there was just sexy games and activities around the pool all day long. But there was a game that I actually got to take my trunks off. Because they had this game called Miss Temptation. And they were having the girls lay down and do tricks to try to win.
And they made them fake an orgasm.
Anyway, one of them was to get in the water and collect as many bathing trunks that you could from the guys and of course I took mine right off because it was nice I had to wear board shorts all weekend and so I got to take my trunks off and gave them to a girl and then when the game was over they made you prove that you didn't have any trunks on and I've never seen well because had this big old pile of soggy board shorts you know that the girls had collected and they were trying to give them back to the guys so they would hold them up to like throw them back at you but you had to prove that they were yours by jumping up and showing that you were naked yeah so I just stepped up a couple of steps out of the pool and got my shorts back but a lot of other guys were a little bit embarrassed to have to get out of the water.
I'm like, finally, for 15 minutes, I get to go in the pool with nothing on. Right. Okay, so that's a great point. So some of the guys took their shorts off and were naked in the water that was up to their waist. So you couldn't really see anything anyway. Yeah. Unless you were right next to them. And then when they had to jump up out of the water to prove that they were naked, they were embarrassed. So the three girls that were participating in the contest, you know, this is where it's like total spring break atmosphere.
They were supposed to fake like masturbating and giving themselves an orgasm, laying down, you know, they put like towels down on the side of the pool and everybody was watching. Well, the first lady, she was a class act, you know, she kept her bottoms on and she did a really good job of, of with her sounds and her body language and everything. And I thought she was awesome.
but then the two and she was an older lady she was probably in her 40s probably you remember which one i'm thinking about yeah and then the other two girls were younger um and the one girl oh she completely took her bottoms off and there was nothing left to the imagination it yeah it was like really bad amateur porn on the side of the pool. And the poor entertainment guy running the game, he had lost control of the situation. And then all the single guys were like magnets to her. They were like swoop, you know, right up there staring as close as they could.
Yeah, and hoo-ha was like right there on the edge of the pool and i mean they were standing there like with yeah but then these people are afraid to go to desire yeah yeah right i don't know i and there were a lot of people there like there was remember there was a couple ladies there who were bodybuilders and that one lady in particular yeah yeah i mean it was like people were not really comfortable being who they were they were being what they were I don't themselves.
That was the one thing that I noticed about a difference there that you really some people were there, maybe didn't have the confidence, to go to a pearl and i mean we'll talk about that in a little while but um anyway it was you and i always have a good time no matter what and you and i weren't sure when we went there um about what to expect as far as or were there any other swingers going to be there you know, at, at either one of the desired resorts, you can always hope for like at least a 50-50 percentage of swingers and non-swingers.
But, you know, at Temptation, we had no idea what to expect. And there were quite a few swingers there.
You know, as we're going to talk about in in a few minutes some of those swingers might not have had the best approach to uh find well you know it's getting easy for us we got in the pool remember and we started scoping people out and we said hey what do you think about that couple over there i got my eye on this couple over there but but also you were able to segment people you could tell which guys were the single guys then you could pick out like the bodybuilder people that was another group then you could pick out the the swingers who were more of the hookup swingers the professional swingers and then there were you know those of us that were a little bit more social social swingers and more laid back and the newbies so and you could tell just by walking around and talking to people and then there were people there that were just they just wanted to have fun I don't think they would consider themselves lifestyle people they they would take their tops off and they were drinking and dancing and just have playing the games and having fun but weren't lifestyle people right so a whole lot more different types of people so the first couple we met it was a saturday it was saturday when we got there right oh yeah we had just gotten there yeah and got our first drink got in the pool and they were next to us and you started doing your like uh scoping out of the you know what what do you call it your uh reconnaissance or whatever yeah well you know i'm not a wallflower anymore and a couple was right next to us and i said well let's go talk to them yep you picked them out honey i gotta give you credit i did you did a good job we talked to them and and um they know we have a podcast and we've corresponded a couple times since we've been back but, but they're from Pennsylvania and they, they're considered newbies.
I think they'd had one experience, but we didn't even talk about that initially. We, we just, you know, we want to meet people and become friends. They had been to temptation several times. Yeah.
So, you know, they were kind of giving us the ins and outs of navigating the resort and everything and they were just real easygoing couple easy to talk to just happened to be really attractive yeah and then the other couple that we met was from michigan and it was the same thing i mean we talked to them i talked to her for a long time and i know you talked to him and we never mentioned the lifestyle it was family we had a lot in common with you know their family and our family and yeah um similar professions and they're a little bit younger than us but in the same age range yeah been married a long time i think 27 yeah 27 years they had been married yep and so the first couple we had been married a long time.
Right. And so I'm not sure when it came up in conversation, but they told us that they were not in the lifestyle and that it would probably be, I think, I think he said maybe, maybe a couple of years before they got up the nerve to. Well, and I think the whole reason the lifestyle came up with that second couple is because there was another couple in the pool that were, they had, I think, met them the year before because they had been to temptation several times as well. And there was another couple there that they had met at a prior visit and they were after them. Yes.
Um, they were really wanting them to convert, I guess. play and and it was it was really obvious yes they were not being subtle about it at all yeah and this is the second time that this has happened to us that put that exact scenario it happened at desire last year and it happened here where there was a swinger couple that were so pursuing a couple so hard that they chased them right to us. Right. You know, we're like the... Yeah, it is the exact same thing that happened at Desire Pearl last year. We're like the newbie flytrips. We look harmless and then...
Anyway, it pushed them into our direction and of course we don't say anything about the lifestyle at first we just talk to people to get to know them because that's you know the friendship part of it the social part of it is is what you know we and there's not anything wrong with the hookup style if that's your style but that's just not us so we need to to thank those swingers for pushing them our way. That's right. So to go back to the first couple, that was the first couple that we met when we got to the resort on Saturday.
And we talked to them a lot on Saturday, but then you and I did dinner on our own Saturday night and then went to the patio place, which is the outdoor dance venue, the late night place. And we ran into them there at the bar and we kind of hung out with them a little bit that night. Yeah. And then the next day we saw them again in the pool. Yeah. And then I think we had lunch together. Did we? Yeah. I think we had lunch together. Oh, that's right. We went in for lunch and they were already there and we sat down with them. Yeah, we sat down with them then. Yeah.
And then the four of us decided we would... Do dinner. Do dinner together because they had reservations at a restaurant. Right. So we got to know them as the day went on and we went to dinner. And then you and I had already talked at that point in time. We had decided, well... We knew before we went to dinner, yeah, we had talked. They were green-lighted. Yeah. But we also knew that they were very new. They had had one experience before, and it didn't really go as well as they had hoped it would.
Right, but we had talked and said, even though we have no expectations, if there, if it does happen, we were both okay with it. Right. So we had our talk. Right. You and I were on the same page. Right. So we went to dinner and then after dinner, the four of us went out. Well, we told them at dinner that we were interested in them.
So after we dropped that bomb on them at dinner we all went to patios the outdoor bar area he went they went back to the room yeah and then they excused themselves and they went back to their room because he wanted to put shorts back on because it was hot out and we knew we were all going to be outside the rest of the night and he had worn long pants to dinner so anyway they went up to the room and i think they probably talked and you and i hung out at the bar and and just kind of enjoyed the evening then they eventually came back down and we we hung out at the bar for a while and danced a little bit and had a few cocktails and um oh you know who we night?
Um, we met our listeners from San Francisco. Yes, that's right. That was the night we met them at the bar. Right. So yeah, that was pretty cool. Yeah. So they had told us that they were coming to temptation the same time we were. So we finally figured out who they were and they figured out who we were and we connected. Yeah. And we tried to talk over the DJ, but it was a little bit difficult. Yeah. It was so loud. It was really hard to talk. So we ended up catching up with them later in the weekend where we could actually listen to each other. Yeah. Yeah. But that was fun.
So anyway, we hung out there for a while and then they came back and, and, uh, we were trying to figure out where we were going to go from there. And it so loud at the the disco area we decided to walk out closer to the beach where it'd be a little bit more quiet yes so the four of us sat down next to the pool and that's where you mrs jones started talking about the card game yes you said you brought the dumb card game i did that's card game i'm. I'm telling you, it's small. It packs easily. Yeah. Well, he had done a lot. It's always handy. He knew a lot about, um, sex positivity.
I mean, he, he reads a lot and he's really interested in this. And so we talked a lot about that and then we shifted talking to the game and then we said, well, we brought the game, you know, do y'all want to come back to the room? And they said, yes. So the four of us came back to our room and we played the card game for 20, 30 minutes. Sometimes that's all you need. Yeah. You know, you start with the discussion questions and then usually once we switch the second deck, which are like the action cards, it doesn't last very long. And then the clothes started coming off.
And I was kind of wondering, because this is the time when you, you know, especially with newbies, um, you know, when all of a sudden you're in the room and the clothes start coming off, you really see, you know, what people are really in, into it or not. Well, if they're ready, right. Yeah. And I'll tell you what, they were ready. Yeah. She, she and I, and I think she had a little bit of a concern because she thought that he, he might distract her from being with me. But I think their first experience, they thought they might not want to watch each other or she didn't want to watch him. Yeah.
Um, so I think she was really concerned about, you know, how she was going to feel because we were in our room and it just had one king size bed. So there wasn't really anywhere to go. Yeah. Um, anyway, she and I started, she was a champ. We had already talked about top swap. Yes. And, um, she and I started playing and you two started playing and it was hot.
I went down on her, and then she went down on me, and at one point in time, you know, when you're soft swap, and the below the waist parts of the bodies, every once in a while, they'll like line up, and all of a sudden, you get this warm, tingling feeling like that's what you're supposed to do and it was funny because we were laying side by side and kissing and and our body parts were aligned perfectly and she was she just decided to 69 so she just flipped right over and we did that for a while so she she was definitely engaged and I had a great time. I mean, she was relaxed. She's very sexy.
Um, and you two were having a good time. Yeah. Yes. Every once in a while, a glance over there to see how you all were doing and they didn't look like newbies. No, they were amazing. Right. They were very in the moment.
they were very confident yeah they they didn't seem nervous at all no she's a really good kisser and so was he and then we ended up switching i think we even took a little bit of a break and had water yeah stuff and then we came back and started again and then we we came back to i came back to you and right he went back to her and we started, um, you and I started having sex and they did. And then we were separated on the bed and then, and then we got closer to them and that was the, that was the, that was hot. Yeah. That was hot. Yeah.
And we kind of finished where we were all four touching each other and. Oh yeah. That was the best part. Yeah. That was really fun. Yeah. I mean, and you could tell that they were really having a good time and you can tell they have a really strong relationship so it was fun yeah and then we actually laid around and talked for a while afterwards yeah yeah so the next day the next day is when we met the couple from really started talking to the yeah we had already, we had already met them.
Yeah, we met them the day before, but spent a lot of time talking with them and comparing notes as far as our lives. And, you know, we had a lot in common. So we decided to go to dinner together with them. Right. Right. So the four of us went to dinner and they told us that they weren't in the lifestyle or that it was going to be a couple of years. I think they were intrigued by it, but yeah, they just weren't ready.
So we never, I never, it never crossed my mind at dinner that we would play with them because they were so new and I just liked being around them because they were really great people. So the four of us after dinner, we went to the patio. And this is my birthday. Yeah, this is Mrs. Jones' birthday. Well, actually, actually. Yes. The night we played with our first set of friends. The Pennsylvania friends. It was after midnight, so that was my birthday. Yeah, your birthday present was playing with our new friends. Yes. Because that was technically past midnight.
midnight right so yeah so but this was my birthday when we went out to dinner with the the michigan couple so the michigan so then we went to the the patio the bar uh disco area with them and the pennsylvania couple showed up too yes so the six of us were together and we were dancing and every once in a while this has happened to us once or twice um you know well first of all you started drinking too much no i didn't it was my birthday i was allowed to you we were doing like every other drink water and you went to order another vodka tonic and And I said, don't you think you need to, I said, I think that should be your last one.
And you took, you took your index finger and you put it on my nose and you said, it was your chest. Actually. It's my birthday. And it was, I said, okay, I guess you're going to have another drink. And you did. And well, you know, I guess you're going to have another drink. And you did. Well, you know what started all of the drinking? Bob. Well, there was Bob. But before we get to Bob, it was our San Francisco friends, our podcast listener friends. They ordered tequila shots. That's right. Because they found out it was my birthday. That's right.
So we did tequila shots with them and then our other two friends there were eight of us that that did a tequila shot yeah so yeah me and tequila you know how that's always going to end right and then and then bob came into the pictures yes so they had this wrought iron uh furniture and somebody had taken one of those balloons that you blow up and turn into balloon animals except they turned it into a penis yeah a really long like three two two foot penis yeah and it was wedged in the seat of one of these chairs and so it was kind of like a simian it was a it was a balloon penis sticking up and the wind was blowing so he was bobbing up and down so they named him bob so everybody got their picture taken with bob and yeah i yeah there's a picture of me actually like licking bob yeah probably not one of my prouder moments so we the six of us were dancing and then eventually the um couple from pennsylvania turned in yeah and then it was just the four of us and the four of us were dancing.
You, you, she cut in, you ladies were dancing together. Yes. And then to my surprise, um, you started kissing. Yeah. I don't know how that happened, but that was kind of fun. I think, I think she was just giving you a birthday kiss. Yeah. But about that time, a single guy came over and he tried to cut in on her.
He tried to cut in on her and we had to shoo him away a couple of times and it it turned out okay but i'd say three or four times he kept coming back and trying to butt in and that's really one of the differences between temptation and pearls right yeah that ain't gonna happen at desire right but he was harmless it was just an annoyance more than yeah i mean because it was like three or four times yeah when he couldn't get her then he would try to get me and then but she and i would just kind of rescue each other you know he would try to steal one of us away and i would just go fetch her back and this this lady is just first of all i would just describe her as she's just beautiful inside and out yes she's a great personality she's just a very caring person and just the cutest I mean she's so beautiful so pretty full of energy and so she's dancing with you and all of a sudden you two start kissing and of course it caught my attention and I said hmm and about this time everybody else on the dance floor starts noticing that there's a lot of energy coming from our side.
So then she and I started dancing together and you went to dance with her husband. Yes. And my back was to you all. And next thing I know, she and I started kissing. She kissed me. And I said, well, I'm going to kiss her back. And we really shared, you know, a really intimate kiss there. And then I didn't know what was going on behind me, but you can describe that. I think he saw his wife kissing you. So he figured it was okay to kiss me. Yeah.
Because I think, I think she's the one that's probably the probably the uh the most anxious about taking the next step into the lifestyle yeah you know i'd say if one of them were ready he was probably more ready than she but so i think once he saw her kissing you he figured it was okay to kiss me and i was like hmm okay well this is a good way to yes this is an interesting yeah we mr jones and i were not expecting that at all no but it was really a connection um she she really made and i'll talk about more about this in a minute but at that point in time reality sets back in and this guy and it was superhero night this guy i think he had a spider-man or a super man.
i think it was a superman he didn't have the physique of a superman but anyway she's kissing me and we're dancing and the next thing i know he like grabs her elbow this is not her husband this is another guy and it's it's the swinger guy that was chasing her in the pool and he pulls her away and and i stop dancing and I'm just watching and he's yelling he's trying to tell her something and she nods her head and then she comes back to me and we started dancing again and I kind of I didn't say anything but she says um oh that's the guy that was after me in the pool he went up to my husband yesterday and said, I really want to fuck your wife.
That's classy. Yeah. And, and so the point, the point I want to make here, well, I guess we're going to get into some making some points because, well, before we get to that, I'll come back and talk about that.
But, but that, that would, that kind kind of interrupted and and caused a little bit of disruption and the energy you know that was going on over there so the four of us got we we danced a little bit more then we went to the pool yes and that was fun because you could not be naked in the pool so we had to get in the pool in our underwear yes everybody just stripped down to their underwear and got in the pool and So we had to get in the pool in our underwear. Yes. Everybody just stripped down to their underwear and got in the pool.
And the four of us were pretty close to touching and flirting and kissing, you know, in the pool. And then Mrs. Jones got tired and we went to bed. Well, I got tired. Okay. So I was tired because maybe I didn't have as much water as I should have. But I also knew that we needed to end the evening with them or something might have happened that there would have been regrets.
You know, I think there was a lot of forward momentum, but I don't think there was a lot of communication on their part you know I think they were running on adrenaline so I really think we did the right thing by going to bed yeah I mean my hormones weren't saying that but the little bit of brain cells that I had not cooked with the vodka were saying we needed to go to bed and that was our last night yes and that was our last night and they for like four more days. Yeah, they were there for a whole week. Yeah, we wish we could have stayed for a couple more days.
Oh, well, like I said the next day, you know, if we had just a little bit more time. Yeah. So those were our play times. Now let's go back to the Pennsylvania couple. Okay. Because there's something i want to talk about and that's like self-confidence or confidence with women so the couple we met from pennsylvania i don't think it was her it was him and i made the comment that i thought she was beautiful and he said i tell her that all the time and she doesn't believe me and how many times have we heard that i? I mean, you and I say that too. And she is beautiful. She's very beautiful.
Beautiful body, beautiful face. Right. Just a happy personality. Yeah. So, so anyway, I, he mentioned that I, you know, he said, I tell her that all the time, but I'm just her husband. Well, then the couple that, um, um, that we, the Michigan couple, the next night I told her, you know, or she said something to me, you know, she said, well, you know, my husband thinks I'm beautiful and I, and I have just about stopped dancing. And I said, you are a very beautiful woman.
So two nights in a row, and these were both newbie couples and both ladies had, well on, on thelvania it was the husband who said i tell her that all the time but you know there are so many i just want to talk about that for a minute and i know you have some thoughts on that too yeah about how much your confidence grows self-confidence grows as a woman in the lifestyle well I you know I I think something about having babies and getting you know out of your 20s makes you you know a little shaky on your confidence you know because again I've I've said this a million times you know we're we're so, blinded by the media you know we we see photoshopped and airbrush yeah not just the media well right i'm i'm just thinking like you know victoria's secret catalogs or you know all of these ads and and you just see all of this perfection which really isn't real perfection because it's all been touched up.
And then you look in the mirror and, and it's so hard. So, and then you look around and you say, Oh, she's so pretty. She's so pretty. And you don't see yourself in that same light because we're critical of ourselves. But when we look at somebody else, we're looking at the whole person. We're not picking out their imperfections. So I think it, it takes a lot of Thank you. Thank you. Bye-bye. But when we look at somebody else, we're looking at the whole person, we're not picking out their imperfections.
So I think it, it takes a lot of determination to be confident as a woman, you know, especially a woman in the lifestyle, because, you know, you can put your best face forward, you know, with the right clothes and etc.
But I mean, then you have to like take all of that like armor off and and you have to be naked in front of somebody and right and you know but it doesn't take long is my point i mean so for 50 years or 49 years before you get into the lifestyle you're you're saying you're molded by society and then two years later you're self-confident because of the experiences that you're having in the lifestyle i am self-confident but that confidence is easily shaken still yeah you know i i can fight back and and i can like let that go right but um i've still had a few experiences lately where that confidence gets shaken right and and the thing the the other point that i want to make especially with the michigan couple is when when she and i kissed on the dance floor and she was looking at me and and i've said this once or twice when a woman lets me in um and not necessarily physically she was very she made herself vulnerable at that minute she you know, she put, she pulled her guard down and she was looking at me in a very innocent and in a very, um, vulnerable way.
And then we kissed and, you know, I just felt that that was really important for her, you know, to do that. And I hope that, um, you know, having come out of that on the other side. So, so the next morning when we talked to them, you know, um, you know, he, they told us that, so when you made us go to bed early, not early, but when we got to bed at like two 30, when we got out of the pool and went to bed, he said they had the most amazing sex that night. And he said it was largely because of them being with us. And so, you know, okay, we couldn't be there, but that was really meaningful.
So I'm glad that it worked out the way that it did. And hopefully someday...
I'm glad you can say that now because i think you're a little bitter that i wanted to go to bed well yeah well you know we've talked about that guys and and that's how i'm different from the guy that interrupted us on the dance floor um you know back to and this is you know awareness yes guys and you know who just talked about this was uh tna on curious couple yeah their new episode that just came yeah i think episode 44 you should take a listen but this guy the day before had said to i want to fuck your wife and and obviously it didn't work out and then he sees her with me and he interrupts again you know have some awareness if you.
If you're going to be that type of a swinger, that's okay.
I'm not judging that, but sometimes guys get the testosterone going and the hormones going and they're like basset hounds, you know, just all animal, all instinct, all, and that's really not a, what a woman needs sometimes, especially new to the lifestyle ladies or ladies who aren't self-confident and um you know so i look at a person like that and i think you know had that been the only experience she had that weekend i wonder if that would have just driven them further from the lifestyle right you know and fortunately we happen to be at the right place at the right time and made a connection with them and helped turn them we're like like the johnny apple seed of swingers we're just planting these seeds well honey don't you remember when we went to pearl our very very first night at pearl the couple in the hot tub you know we were sitting and talking with them and and we told them we were brand new and we had never done anything before.
And, and basically he just, he said, well, no time like the present. Do you want to go back to our room and fuck? And he's like, uh, no. Well, and, and, okay. So you make a, you make a play like that. And maybe we were babies, but you know, I, I don't know that that was not the right approach for us, for us.
But my, my point is after that first approach, it didn't work or there's no there's nothing there don't keep going back you know have some sense about yourself look at the other woman and the other couple and how they're responding and adjust accordingly if you need to back off the throttle you know back off the throttle a little bit you just hard charging all the time you know know, this is three times now that couples have been really driven to us for people and for people who are over aggressive and really don't sense that they're pushing people or making people uncomfortable.
So that self-awareness for guys is just not there. And it doesn't go well with women and not being self-confident was the point that I was trying to make. Right. So speaking of confidence issues, um, we've had a couple experiences with newbies that have kind of left me with my confidence shaken a little bit.
And, and I, and I kind of want to talk about it maybe from my perspective, but also, um, some advice for for newbies out there on just how to avoid miscommunications either between you and your partner or between you and the other couple so that you know that it can be a positive experience for everybody involved um i mean we've there's two encounters I'm, I'm thinking of that have happened, um, maybe either recently or not so recently where there's been, I don't know, like a, a lack of, it's not really a lack of communication going into the encounter because like the one I'm thinking of is you know we knew that they were a soft swap couple and we were okay with that and and that boundary was set but as far as the um oh it's a remember I was saying I was using the word incongruent okay you know there's a difference between even though if soft swap when all four people say they're in and this is what we're okay with then you go into the bedroom and some but and one person's clearly not not got their head in the game right and the situations that you're speaking of it's been the men who have not had their head in the game right and so that can leave me a little shaken because i don't i i can't figure out why they're not engaged you know is it is it me is it them seeing their wife with somebody else is it um like oh my gosh i can't believe I'm doing this and just being kind of emotionally overwhelmed.
Yeah. And we're not talking about, um, we're not talking about having an erection or not here. We're talking about just not being engaged. Right. Let's make that clear. I think it's like their head's not in the game, which causes other things not to be in the game.
Yeah think this is a mental thing right you know so and as a husband as me watching you it kind of bothers me a little bit because you come out of a situation and i've had a good time and the other woman's had a good time but you kind of come out and say well i don't know what just happened in there but either he wasn't interested in me or he was distracted by his wife and when that happens two or three times you know you start to lose your confidence and think well is it me because when we went in there you know I thought we were all okay but when we came out I wasn't apart it didn't happen the way that I was hoping it was going to happen right and you know, you know, I try to put the person at ease and get them to relax and kind of engage.
And there's been a few times where I just haven't been able to do that. Right. And then afterwards, it's like nothing's wrong. It's like the conversation is normal. Like we all four had a good time and the guys really don't right want to talk about it um and so i think that's the bigger point too it's it's okay if you're a newbie you don't know what's going to happen when you go into that bedroom right and you don't know how you're going to react but what is best is when you come out of that just to talk about it to say hey i'm i don't don't know what happened in there. I was overwhelming.
And, you know, I just want to let you know. So at least everybody knows, especially you, you know, that it wasn't you. Right, right. Because when there is no discussion, I mean, I, you know, it rattles me, you know, it starts making me think, gosh, he wasn't attracted to me or. I know. And then if you get two times in a row, you're telling me, oh, well, I had a birthday. Now that's two times in a row. I'm getting old. Nobody wants me. Maybe I'm too old for this. You know, maybe we need to wrap this up.
And then as a husband, I get a little, you know, bent out of shape because I'm like, I don't, I want to share you with somebody who's going to appreciate you. And, you know, as T said on their podcast, so eloquently, you know, if I'm going to let somebody drive my Ferrari, I love that. You better take care of it. That is the best analogy ever. So it's not only being too aggressive and not paying attention, it's not engaging at all.
And then, and then you, you walk out feeling less than, um, you know, good about yourself, you know, and, and you're, and I care about you and I don't want to put you in that situation. So before you walk into the playroom, if something's not right, you should say it.
And then after you come out, if it didn't go that well you know just just admit to it say hey this is it's okay yeah it's okay it's okay yeah yeah just just be honest so it really comes down to communication is what we're saying and i know it's a new environment and and if you're new you've never done this before and you don't know what to say that's why we're telling you now, just go ahead and talk about it because it happened. I mean, we're all human. We're not all sex machines. So I guess the other thing I want to talk about before we wrap this up is not only is that... You have nice boobs.
Thank you, Mr. Jones. Can we focus here, honey? We're almost done. My attention span just expired. Obviously, it's late. Sorry, go ahead. Okay, so anyway. So the other perspective I want to point out is that, sure, my confidence gets rattled, but it's not all about me. There's another woman in the room. It's not? Well, when it's just you and I, it's all about me.
But when we play with other couples i i try to be a team player so the example that we've been using is if the other man's head is not in the game yes and he's struggling and um and you and and his partner are having a great time at the end of the evening his his partner is going to notice whether it's in the car on the way home or whether she's noticed all along and she doesn't know what to do about it. Or, you know, after it's over and she's just like, Oh my gosh, best night ever.
And then she looks over at her partner and he's just got this bewildered look on his face um it's going to have an impact on her and then ultimately it's going to have an impact on their their connection and they're you know going to have to communicate about it at some point their ability to grow in the lifestyle right and i mean you and i have had this happen so i mean we are speaking from experience yeah you know so it's not like we're we're preaching and meddling here we we've had to deal with And I'll see you next time. you and I have had this happen.
So, I mean, we are speaking from experience, you know, so it's not like we're, we're preaching and meddling here. We've had to deal with this as well. Um, so it, you know, you, you have to come clean. If you've had some sort of an issue during that play session, you've got to come clean at the minimum with your partner. Hopefully you feel comfortable enough and you have that connection with a couple that you've engaged with that you can come clean with everybody. Because I think the more you talk about it and the more you acknowledge it, the better it's going to be for you in the long run.
Yes. And even after all of that, we just enjoy being with newbies. I mean, they're a lot of fun. They are a lot of fun. There's a lot of energy that they're bringing. There's a lot of curiosity. Um, we like to be a part of somebody's growth. I mean, obviously that's why we do that, this podcast, right? I mean, all of that energy that they bring to the, the encounter is it's really contagious. Yeah.
You know that it, I mean, yeah, some of it's anxiety, but most of it is like, you know, you're at the top of that roller coaster ready to go down the hill and, and just all that, that rush of adrenaline and everything that's very contagious. Yeah. And on the positive side of communication, we've been with couples who have communicated with us afterwards.
And I know we just talked about the Michigan couple, but we didn't talk about the Pennsylvania couple because I know the next day, you know, they came back and told us, you know what, we were ready to tell you guys that we weren't ready to play. I know. But the way that they, and they said the reason why is because they couldn't really wrap their minds around how they were going to get from dinner conversation to bedroom.
And that since they had never done that before they were going to opt out but then when we were sitting around the pool and we offered to play the game and she said yes and the husband was like oh she said yes yeah i think that she surprised him when she said yeah i think the game intrigued her yeah but both of those couples gave us some good feedback the next day, which is always helpful. And then we do have newbie friends that you mentioned before that we've had bumps in the road with, but we talk about that with them. Well, I love that about that couple.
I mean, it's been kind of a bumpy ride with them, but they are so good at communicating with each other and they're not afraid to talk to us about it. And it's awesome. I mean, we've actually sat around with cocktails kind of strategizing how to make it a better experience for the four of us. Yeah. And if you don't think I had problems, go back and listen to episode three. So I know what I'm talking about. Right. Right. And I mean, talking about that, it's still sexy. It's just sexy to kind of that what if scenario and how can we make everybody comfortable?
Because, you know, it's just, it's fun if you can find that comfort level for all four of you. Because with the couple that we're talking about now, I mean, there's definitely that four way attraction. Um, but you know, you just have to, to make it work for everybody. And I guess, you know, we're, we're willing to do that. We find it challenging. Yeah. You know, I don't, I don't think we find it. Then we can say that temptation was a success, even though we didn't play really with both couples. Well, okay. So honey, think about this. Yeah.
You say we didn't play with a couple from michigan but we were at a resort that was not a lifestyle resort i mean there were some lifestyle people there and we were like dancing until the wee hours of the morning with them and okay first of all she and i were kissing can you imagine doing that in our hometown you two are playing and then she grabbed you and she just plants one right on you yeah and then her husband was like oh yeah and then he starts kissing me we cannot do that in normal social settings i have no complaints that is the lifestyle yes i have no complaints that is the honey.
And that was hot and it was awesome. Okay. Point taken. So I, you know, I, I think it's, it's all relative. I think, you know, we just, um, hopefully gave both of them something to think about as they move forward in their lifestyle journey, wherever that moving forward is for them, it's going to be different for each of them. And, you know, maybe it's a lessons learned for them or maybe it's a, hey, you know, there's some potential here to move forward. And if somebody wants to come to Virginia from Michigan or Pennsylvania, we're more than happy to help continue this tutelage. Oh, yeah.
Definitely. Okay, So before we close up, I want to read the email that we talked about at the beginning of the episode and then wrap this up. And I want to not only read the second part of the email, but I want to refer back to the part of the email that we read last time. But I'm only going to read the second half. Okay. If you want to hear the first half, it's what we read on episode 23.
Well read on episode 23 well true true yeah okay so here's the last half of the email i know mrs jones mentioned it on the podcast before it is strange to say out loud that the lifestyle has brought us together and made an already strong connection stronger my husband and i were talking about that the other night when we started our objective was to make friends first all of our vanilla friends are so conservative i've been banned from making swapping jokes perhaps i made too many so we really wanted to meet people that we could really let it all hang out in front of so to, not feel like we had to hide any part of ourselves.
Our second objective was to explore sexually. We've only ever been with each other. While a wonderful accomplishment, we were curious about what was out there. There's something about seeing and hearing your partner living out their fantasies that is really rewarding. I feel like I'm helping him live his best life. And what's better than that? That is so amazing. May I just interrupt? That is so amazing. Yeah, I want to come back and talk about that. That's true love right there. Yeah. The other big change, at least for me, is how my confidence has gone through the roof.
I think a lot of women feel differently about their bodies after having children. I've learned that there are a lot of men and women out there that are attracted to me and that perhaps I was overthinking and worrying about something I shouldn't.
Even though my husband tells me I'm beautiful every day, there is something different about the compliment when it comes from someone else i also would have never written to you both i was very introverted now i'm finding myself being more social and less nervous to talk to new people it's been a wonderful transformation all around that just knocks my socks off i mean And, you know, to have somebody so open, like you said, there's, there's a bit of vulnerability there and, and just the strength of their relationship and what I wanted to refer back to, and I know you want people to go back and listen to our previous episode, but, um, what she says right at the end of what we read last time, she says something about when, when the single guy had insulted them and they were driving home, you know, she said that they were holding hands in the car and she said that she was a bit shaken and upset and that the, you know, the, although the single guy had seemed nice at first, um, you know, obviously he, he wasn't a nice guy.
And she said that her husband looked at her and said, our marriage is the opposite of a sham. It's bulletproof. You know, we have trust in one another to be able to live out our fantasies and we always come back together. If that's not a real marriage, I don't know what is.
So, I mean that, I guess that's the thing, you know, know you you have to have that confidence in your relationship that you're going to be bulletproof yeah you know that that together you're stronger than you are individually right and that I think that's what it takes to navigate the lifestyle in a in a confident manner right and her point about that the sentence that that we both liked, I feel like I'm helping him live his best life and what's better than that. You know, when we were talking with Tony last on episode 23, I even said, you know, it makes no sense. It really doesn't add up.
I, you know, I'm watching my wife, the love of my life with another man and it's turning me on and it's trying us closer that goes against everything. I know it's crazy. Yeah. But this, this phrase really helps define that. If I'm really helping you live the best life that you can have, then what's better than that? That's what I should want. Right. You know? And so I think she's either knowingly or stumbled upon, you know, the closest definition or the closest explanation that I can come to, to helping that make sense. Yes. So of course, we're going to give you three takeaways, right?
Because we've talked about a lot, right? And this time it's going to be the three C's. It was the three P's last time. What was it? Be picky, be patient and persevere, Right. This is the three c's yes it's about the connection it's about confidence and it's about communication yes so i'm going to pause a minute while you newbies pick up your pencils or your phones yeah don't be old school honey let them pick up their phones and like make a note yeah so it's about the connection and it's about confidence and it's about communication.
So just to summarize the connection, you have to define what sort of connection that you're looking for. And Mrs. Jones and I have talked about our connection being, we want to make friends. We're social swingers. We, you know, we want to, we want to meet people that we can be friends with first and play partners with second. And we are attracted to people that are physically attractive, have good personalities and a strong relationship. Right. And that's what we've defined. And so when we want to connect with the people, a person, that's what we're looking for.
I think, um, you know, when we say we want to make friends first and we've talked about other people that say that as well, you know, they want to make friends first. Well, okay. That that's all well and good, but you can make friends in the vanilla world. But, but what's different about this is when you make that connection and you develop that, that friendship and you, and you, you know, discover the commonalities between, you know, among the four of you, then the sex just kind of comes. I mean, the flirting starts and the, the comfort levels there.
And then all of a sudden the sex is just there and it's, and it's comfortable and it's awesome. Yeah. So how do you recognize that? I mean, I think the one way to describe it is if, if you, if you define people in the lifestyle that you're attracted to as primarily a physical attractiveness, then maybe your expectations need to change about the sort of connection that, that is going to be very considerate of you. Because if you're a sexual swinger and that's perfectly fine, I've said that before.
Um before but if you're just physically attracted to somebody and the personality and the relationship don't matter that much then the chances are you you're going to run into people who just want to have raw sex and you know so if that's not what you're about you know maybe you need just re-examine what attracts you to somebody else and and look for dimension. Um, so that's, you know, how I would, I would characterize that, what that means. Right.
Because I, I mean, when I'm looking for somebody, um, as we meet couples, I'm looking for a guy that is like interested in me as a person so that when I do have sex with him, he's going to at least attempt to try to read me and to please me. Right. And then of course he has the same hope going through his mind that I'm going to reciprocate that. And you know, I, yes. And if you don't think that it takes a little bit of work, yes. If you don't take the time to do that, then what's left is just the raw physical sex.
sex right and sometimes that might be what you're after and then right you know that's that's awesome but if you come out of that and you don't think that was what you were looking for then re-examine the people that you're connecting with right yeah so and maybe you know you want to alter that approach to to find somebody that is going to be interested in your your mind as well as your boobs or whatever. Yeah. So, uh, the, to find somebody that is going to be interested in your mind as well as your boobs or whatever. So the second word is confidence.
And the reason that we didn't use self-confidence was intentional because what we're finding, and this is based on you and me both, Mrs. Jones, I wasn't very self-confident coming into this. And as we just talked about, most people are not men and women when the, when the man's head's not in the game, maybe it's a self-confidence issue. You know, when the woman has, you know, uh, concerns about what she looks like, the same thing. So what we would recommend is rely on the confidence that you have in your relationship.
Because obviously your partner thinks that you're the most amazing thing in the whole world so when you go you you wouldn't be ready to dip your toes into the lifestyle to begin with right so when you're when you're entering this and you're entering it together and you're doing it as a team lean on the confidence that you have in that relationship and then you don't worry so much about what the other couple or the other partner thinks about you because your, your focus is on your partner and the confidence that you have in your relationship.
And then what can come out of that is self-confidence because then the people that you play with are going to begin to compliment you. And then the self-confidence comes later. And if you want to take it a step further, then as you develop that self-confidence that feeds back into the relationship you have and makes your relationship stronger too. Right. Right. And then of course, communication really is communication. I mean, it's the same thing, whether it's your spouse, whether it's yourself, whether it's another couple, just communicate as much as possible. It's fun.
It's a way to learn about yourself and other people. Some people might think it's strange, you know, to like do a debrief with another couple after you play with them. But we really enjoy that. I mean, we, we like hearing other people's perspective on, on how it went and, and we like to do the same thing. Well, you know, one thing that, that I try really hard to do is I try not to take the whole thing too seriously. That's fun.
I mean, if you have fun and you can laugh about it and you know, you, yeah, it's hot and it's intense, but at the same time, you, you just can't take yourself too seriously. You can't take the situation too seriously. Yeah. So here's the bottom line. The Joneses are newbie friendly. Yes, we are. Well, and honey, we are not too far removed from being newbies ourselves. I mean, we still make new mistakes in certain situations. I think the lifestyle is like dog years. Well, because you really do grow up fast. You do grow up fast, but at the same time, we're not, we're not three, we're 21.
But at the same time, there's every encounter with another couple, um, that we haven't played with before is new. Yeah. You know, yeah, we have some experience under our belt, but it's still, it's new territory every time. We got it. We have to pretend like we know what we're talking about because there's people listening to us. Honey, we're on episode 24. They already know. All right. I think we've pretty much covered this, don't you? Yes, I do. I think, um, first of all, I think I need to say thank you for an amazing birthday weekend.
Oh, that was a fun it was a lot of fun and i and i have no idea how you're going to top that next year but i'm sure you're working on it i'm not worried about next year because we have not in new orleans coming up in a few weeks and then we've got desire coming up i'll worry about next may i know i love summertime it's so decadent yes okay when we come back, we've got a couple of snapshots to share with you. Yes, we do. And then we'll put episode 24 to rest. So many to choose from. It's going to be tough. We'll be right back. Welcome back to our snapshot segment.
We're going to start out tonight with a snapshot from one of our listeners, and then I think Mr. Jones and I each have our own sexy snapshot. You think? You better be thinking of one. Oh, I got mine. Okay. I hope you got yours. I got mine. Okay, well, here's our listener's snapshot. This is from M&A. My snapshot was from a fabulous weekend that was three months in the making. We had made contact with a sexy couple whom we had always had our eye on, but whom lived quite a distance from us. We started messaging back and forth on Cassidy and then took our long distance flirtmance to group text.
Things were going so well, we proposed a weekend long rendezvous that involved a wine tasting tour and hot tubbing at a resort. That sounds wonderful. I know. I wish we could have been invited. I know. It was the perfect location, about the halfway point between us. When we finally got to meet them, there was instant chemistry for all four of us. Yep, it was the rarest of the rare, a four-way match. We had planned a first night of teasing clothes on, well, mostly clothes on, which ramped us up for night number two. Night two, we were all playing on the plush king-size bed with enthusiasm.
The other woman was on a mission to make my husband come with a very enthusiastic blowjob. I heard my husband begin to ramp up and he proceeded to have the largest, most intense orgasm of his life. Me and the other man actually I'll see you next time. blowjob. I heard my husband begin to ramp up and he proceeded to have the largest, most intense orgasm of his life. Me and the other man actually stopped mid play to admire the amazingness of the orgasm. It was a beautiful sight and sound, especially since my husband is not usually vocal.
Every time I think back to it, I smile and my panties get a bit wet. The amazingness of the orgasm. I love that. I like the panties getting wet, too. Yes. That's a nice way to close. I know. That was a good snapshot. Yeah. Thank you, M&A, for sharing that. And next time you go wine tasting and hot tubbing, please invite us. Yeah. It sounds like fun. I know. It does sound like fun. We should do that. I know. We have a hot tub. We do. We got wineries around. Yes, we do. Dang. Thanks for the ideas. Okay. My snapshot goes back to our time with Tony. Oh, okay. You have my attention. Yes.
One thing that we did not talk about in episode 23 was how we ended oh right yeah so we had done all kinds of configurations and positions and we had taken breaks and we played for a really long time and how we finished was you were laying on your back in bed and I was laying beside you. And I think Tony was laying on the other side of you or standing on the edge of the bed. Do you remember? He was laying on the other side. Okay. So you were laying in between us. Yes. And I said to you, I want you to give me a handjob. And you started doing that, and then he started getting aroused by that.
So then you started working on him too, and he was playing with himself at the same time. Right. And then you were laying there and I started getting that last snapshot. I started making the noise and it was starting to build up and ramping up. It was ramping up. That's what she said. Yeah. And then he had his orgasm and he came on your stomach. Yes. And after he did that, then. You didn't last long. I did the same thing. Yes. You finished me off with your hand job. Yeah. That was a pretty hot way to end the night. And that's why we keep warm washcloths at the ready. Yes. We were prepared.
Yeah, that was quite something. Okay, now I totally forgot my snapshot. Okay, well then that's the end. No, I can get it back. Here it comes. All right. So my snapshot was, and I have so many snapshots in my head. We had so much fun playing with our Pennsylvania friends, um, in our room at the resort that night. And that was just, it was so much fun and they were so like relaxed and into the moment. It was great. But I think the snapshot that's sticking in my mind is my birthday night when the six of us were dancing.
You know, we were playing with that stupid penis balloon and just dancing and, you know, drinking and fighting off single guys. It was so much fun.
But think the the moment that stuck in my mind because it was probably the most surprising moment of the weekend is when i looked over and you were kissing her that the couple from michigan after they said that they weren't in the lifestyle and they weren't ready for a couple years and then she made the decision to kiss you well first of all that that act surprised me but then second of all she was so petite i think she might have been five foot and and mr jones is very tall he's like six three so there was such a height difference between the two of you and i know i think she had like flats on that night i think he had just had like flip-flops on because she was dressed as a superhero yeah so she had her flip-flops on and then kissing you and she was just so petite and and she just had her arms wrapped around your neck and she was kissing you and that just really um it was awesome because i knew that was a big step for her and then i looked back over at her husband and he had this big old grin on his face and he was like yes so that he kissed me and and that was just it was so fun that was just a really magical moment yeah even though the whole weekend was so much fun and we met you know so many very cool people i you know i i mean i'd already talked about this briefly but i told you the next day i've never had a woman look at me the way that she was looking at me when she yeah she i mean she just bared herself you know and made herself so vulnerable and i felt like she was putting that complete trust in me yes i mean that's just the biggest compliment i can receive even before i kissed her that was the biggest compliment that she felt safe enough around me to do that.
Right. You know, and then, you know, I'm going to treat her, I know I'm driving somebody else's Ferrari at that point. So I'm going to make sure that I treat her, you know, the way that she should be treated and the way that I sense that she needed to be treated at that time. It was, yeah, it was really special. Yeah. Yeah, too bad. Dang it, they're so far away. I know. Wow. Okay. Well, undoubtedly, Mrs. Jones, in episode 25, we will probably be talking about Nadia in New Orleans. I think we'll have a couple things to say about that, yes.
Probably, there'll probably be about eight or ten podcasts this time next month about Nadia in New Orleans. I think we'll have a couple of things to say about that. Probably they'll probably be about eight or 10 podcasts next this time next month about Nadia in New Orleans. Yeah, I know it's going to be a blast. That's for sure. Yeah. So we're looking forward to that. And if you're there, please come up and introduce yourselves. If not the meet and greet, come to our session or track us down somewhere. We'd, we'd love to, to meet you. Yeah.
There's another meet and greet that we're going to be part of one evening is that friday night or thursday night i think it's thursday night at six o'clock yeah yeah it's on the schedule if you're going yeah so if you see our names come on by and yes and say hi or if you see us at one of the bar crawls or something yeah yeah and thank you for thank you for those of you. We've got quite a few more iTunes reviews. So we appreciate that. Yes, thanks. And we appreciate all the emails. We really got a lot of email this week for Tony's episode.
And it was new ground for us talking about a single guy. And that spurred a lot of conversation. we really enjoy even mrs jones has been answering some email i've been doing much better yes yes so if you want to reach us it's mr jones at we got a thing.com that's m-r-j-o-n-e-s at w-e-g-o-t-t-a-t-h-i-n-g.com or mrs jones at we got a thing.com. And of course, our website is wegotathing.com. Follow us on Twitter at wegotathing. And if you're on Cassidy, we have a Cassidy community. We'd love to have you join us. Anything else, Miss Sexy's voice on iTunes?
No, I think it's just maybe time to go upstairs. Oh then well then thanks for listening we are mr and mrs jones and we got a thing what's your thing We'll see you next time.
