Keeping up with the Joneses Afternoon delight with good friends, Mr and Mrs Jones's reconnection time, Dan Savage's Humpfest and why you shouldn't drink beer all day before running a half-marathon. Discussion Topic We talk about when and how to talk to your partner about trying the swinging lifestyle. Snapshots Mr Jones describes watching the purple double-ended dildo disappear and Mrs Jones shares a naughty look with Mr Jones. Mentioned in this episode Dan Savage's "Humpfest" The Desire Forum That Couple Next Door podcast Contact us Mr Jones's email- [email protected] Mrs Jones's email- [email protected] Twitter- @wegottathing Website- wegottathing.com Music licensed by BMI Me and Mrs Jones- Billy Paul
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This podcast contains explicit language and content and is for mature audiences only. Hey you teenagers out there, if you're under 18, this show is more for your parents. So now that you have that mental picture stuck in your head, put some music on and get back to doing your homework. We are a long-time married couple who's decided to chronicle our personal adventures and share our sex-positive discussions as we navigate our way through the swinging lifestyle. Care to join us? Hello, everyone. I'm Mr. Jones.
And I'm Mrsrs jones and we want to welcome you to episode 22 of the we got a thing podcast hey baby hey how are your legs doing oh man yeah my calves are pretty sore yep we just ran a yesterday. Now, we probably could have trained a little bit more diligently for it. I could have trained a lot more. This swinging is really getting in the way of our running, Mr. Jones. It has reset our priorities. It has. I'm not complaining. But we did it. And you kicked butt. Your time was amazing. Well, thank you. Yeah, I did okay. You did really good. Yeah, I did okay. Unlike me. Yeah.
Well, there's a reason for that. Yeah. Mr. Jones thinks that I'm awesome. I just think I'm kind of stupid. No. We're going to get into this now? Well, we might as well. Let's just get it over with. All right. Well, we, in our half marathon, Mrs. Jones kind of went to the starting line a little bit hungover. Yes, not a little bit hungover. I was like really hungover. Yeah. Yeah. And we'll give you the... Going to a beer festival the day before a half marathon is really poor planning. Yeah, that's true. But I finished. Yeah, you finished. I did finish. Yeah. And you came up a notch in my book.
Yeah, I came down a notch in my book. But if I came up a notch in your book, maybe it was worth running with a hangover. I don't know. We'll give you all the backstory on that in just a minute. But anyway, what are we talking about tonight? So we're talking about keeping up with the Joneses. Yes. And the title of this episode is, Oh, the title of the episode is setting the stage when and how to talk to your partner about swinging. Yes. And this is one of those topics where we did just like everything else. Some of it good.
So we're're not preaching here we're just kind of sharing yeah and this is a seems to be a very popular topic in lifestyle but you know we waited we've been getting a lot of emails about this lately and then it's come up and in our in the past month and a couple of experiences that we had so we thought it would be a good time to finally tackle this issue. Yeah. And this might be one of those do what I say, not what I do kind of advice episodes. Part of it might be that way if we're being honest. That's true. Yeah. So keeping up with the Joneses, we've been fairly busy this month.
I think we slowed it down a little bit. needed to spend some mr and mrs jones time we did together we had one crazy adventure um lifestyle adventure kind of in not too long after we podcasted last time yeah so that was fun but before we get to that what um i need to update everybody on our website let's do the non-sexy stuff before we get on the sexy stuff. Get this out of the way. So I mentioned last month we are still planning and we're still on track to have our new website ready for everyone this summer, probably mid-summer.
And we'll give you more details on this later, but what we want you to know now is that we're really excited about it. And the gentleman we're working with is really excited about it and we have a lot of great ideas basically what we want to do is expand the we gotta think community so our website is going to be a hundred percent molded around building our community and some of what that means is, is an opportunity to connect with each other and an opportunity to connect with us through the website. Um, but we'll get into more of the details later.
We just wanted to give you an update that it's still on track. Mr. Jones is a little excited about this. Yeah, I am. Um, not that we don't like the, we still like Cassidy for for the dating site but that community section on cassidy really doesn't do the things that we want to do so right we want it to be much more user-friendly and much more interactive yes so i'm excited about it too but but you can be really nerdy about it i'm excited about it and you should know that the podcast isn't going to change this is just uh the website's going to take off in a different direction.
But our podcast will stay the same. Right. Well, I mean, and it's the communication that we've had with our listeners that has really been the driving force behind this. You know, that's like we've told you all, that's been a real unexpected pleasure from doing this podcast is being able to interact with you guys.
So we're going to make it a little easier to do that yes so even though we will only podcast once a month we will have opportunities to interact with you throughout the month on the website right very cool yes it is okay before i give too much away let's get back to business okay i mean let's get back to sexy business yeah that was the unsexy business fun stuff yes so we had a mr and mrs jones weekend yes we did we were doing a lot of lifestyle stuff last month and finally we had to call time out yep which is a smart idea to do yeah and it was definitely worth it definitely so we decided we needed a family weekend and we needed a mr and mrs jones weekend yeah and we have had lots of family stuff going on we We've had so many birthdays and, and this and that and the other that we've, um, you know, sometimes you just want to say, nope, we're busy.
Nope. We're busy. But when it starts to be birthdays and that kind of stuff, you really don't have a good excuse to say, sorry, we're busy. We have friends in town or whatever. So yeah, we called a few timeouts and and um it was very much worth it so good family experiences and some hot mr mrs jones experience yeah i think i smoked ribs on the grill for you you did mr jones can make some good ribs oh my goodness it's like an all-day process we had a we had an awesome evening for two yep whoo well i think we'll talk about that one are we going to talk about that.
Are we going to talk about that later? I'm going to talk about it later. Okay. We're going to talk about that later. Okay. Good. Um, what else? We also went, we did something a little bit different. We spent some time with some friends that we really enjoy being with in the lifestyle. Um, and they've been up here the past couple of times.
So this time we went out of town and we met them out of town and they got us a hotel room and we had some afternoon delight yeah so we we like we like switched the whole schedule on its uh end yeah we've we got together and uh we got there had a drink in the afternoon we played all afternoon which was really nice i mean it was so relaxing because you didn't have that, you know, it wasn't getting late and people didn't have to get home. Right. I wasn't sleepy and didn't need a five hour energy. Yeah. It was awesome.
And then after we wore each other out, the four of us wore each other out, we went out to dinner. Yep.
But the one funny thing that happened was they had gotten the uh hotel room because it's closer to where they live and so we joined them in the hotel room and then we all decided we were going to go downstairs to the hotel bar to have a drink and we came the four of us came out of the hotel room went around the corner and pushed the down button on the elevator and when the elevator's door the elevator doors opened out walks a couple who were used to be neighbors to the friends that we were with it was one of those uh-oh moments yeah i mean we didn't know what was going on but all of a sudden i could tell by the look on their faces that it was uh-ohoh.
But they didn't. But our friend was smooth. Yeah. Yeah, she was. She handled it like a champ. Yeah. So luckily, we hadn't already had sex with each other. So when we walked around the corner and we ran into them, it wasn't like we had that, like, you know, sexy. Freshly fucked. Yeah.
That sex hair and all that stuff, you know, like smeared mascara and all that stuff that can happen after a an energetic afternoon of playtime so we were still all put together yeah and i will talk more about that one later yeah i think you probably will yeah we had a good time with them yes um and then the other fun thing that we did this month was we went to Dan Savage's Hump Fest. That is going to become an annual tradition for us. That was so much fun. Oh, my goodness. Some good friends of ours invited us. And it was really strange because we didn't have anything on our calendar.
Our calendar had just opened up, and they called us about two weeks out and asked us if we wanted to go we didn't even know what it was i had no clue what it was so she yeah she texted us and i'm like okay well we need to google this because we had no idea what they were talking about and and it was a really really fun time yeah so it's a compilation of a five minute amateur but really well-produced films and dan savage curates them he puts them all together and makes the selections and it was it was in a pretty cool venue in downtown dc and they just it's just one five minute clip after the other and most of them are funny they're all sexy yeah i'd say half of them are funny um funny and sexy yeah maybe like you know 20 of them were Or somewhat educational, I'd say half of them were funny.
Funny and sexy. Yeah, maybe like, you know, 20% of them were somewhat educational, I guess. And then some of them were just like crazy erotic sexy. Yes. You know, so, I mean, you just had a little bit of everything. It was like every genre of porn. Yeah, I saw some things that I had never was wondering how, I was wondering how I was going to respond to that because there was, uh, there was gay, there was lesbian, there was, um, transgender, um, there was male, female, uh, there was foursomes, there was more sums.
I was, I mean, there was literally every genre, every kind of combination you could think of. And think of. But they were all real people. Yes. There were no actors. It was all real, um, like vignettes that were put together by people and they had to be five minutes or less. Yeah. And there was like a general theme around the whole thing that, um, kind of tied everything together. So it was pretty funny. I mean, just overall, it was really funny. A lot of people were laughing, and it wasn't like nervous laughing. It was just like flat-out belly laughing.
It reminded me of going to a movie in college because they had a big white sheet hanging up in front of them. It was in a really nice club in downtown D.C. And they had converted it into like a movie theater.
So they had the big white sheets hanging up front and uh folding chairs everywhere and but they had a nice bar and the couples so we went with the couple that invited us and then there were two other couples three other couples so they were eight of us met uh for like a little pre-dinner snack yeah or pre-show snack i think the show started at seven yeah so we met at a really cool wine bar and and did some like tapas uh plates and then we went to the show and then afterwards we had the most we picked up two more couples so there were 12 of us afterwards yeah and um we went to it was basically a bar but they were serving late night snacks yeah and so we did late night snacks and drinks and we fit and it was a booth it was one of those semi-circle it was a semi-circle booth well probably held eight people but we got 12 people well we got 10 and then our friends were oh they sat on bar stools at the end yeah we and so when we went to hump fest they gave you a little they have an eight and a half by 11 sheet of paper that's cut into four squares and they have a list of all the movies.
Well, everyone had their list of movies. And after we got our drinks and our food, we just started going down the list from top to bottom and reminiscing about what we liked about it, what we didn't like about it, what was funny. What we had questions about. Yeah. What we had questions about and, and talked to, and we'll get into that more in a minute, but it was just so much fun to, to be able to go in an environment like that and decompress and talk about what we saw. Because it helped me remember a lot. I mean, because there were probably at least 20 or so of these little short clips.
And to remember them all is almost impossible. Right. So it was good to talk about them right after. Because it helped you kind of mind. Yeah. Yeah. So that, that was a lot of fun. And what was really cool about that group is that, um, there were 12 of us and our ages ranged anywhere from twenties to fifties, you know, and it didn't matter because we all had that commonality of lifestyle experiences.
so we we were all kind of bringing that same theme to the table and kind of wrapping that around what we saw yes you know because there really weren't that many like lifestyle vignettes yeah in the in the the whole group of movies but they but you could apply a lot of those situations to experiences that you have in the lifestyle. So really good conversation. It was good. And we laughed so much. And part of the reason we laughed Mrs. Jones is because of the drink you ordered. I ordered a drink called a daisy chain. And our waitress knew exactly where we had come from.
And she was an outstanding waitress. and you said something about a daisy chain and i said yeah well i'll have that here if you don't mind and uh i mean we were just having so much fun yeah with the youngsters and i i tried to recreate that tonight i think i've come pretty close might need a little tweaking to what the drink yeah oh yeah what is this so we're having a martini. It's elderflower liqueur and vodka and grapefruit juice. Yeah, it almost... Oh, yeah, what is this? So we're having a martini. It's elderflower liqueur and vodka and grapefruit juice.
Yeah, it almost, well, it tastes like that summer drink that you make with grapefruit. Oh, yeah, but it's got the elderflower liqueur in it, which is really aromatic. Yeah. I like it. Okay, it's pretty good. It's much better than that thing last month. The Aperol spritzer that I had to drink by myself.
so anyway Humpfest was a success and we'll definitely do that again and we recommend that you check that out yeah they I think there's about a dozen different cities that it's coming to throughout the United States yeah um so yeah google it because it's it's coming to a city near you hopefully we'll put a link yeah show and the last thing that we want to talk about and segment one is back to this weekend just this past weekend the half marathon weekend so we had some friends coming in from out of town and we met them two years ago on a vanilla cruise and we had just become swingers when we met oh yeah because we had our black rings on and they asked us about our black rings and we had to we chickened out we chickened out and didn't say anything yeah and we've been wanting to get together with them and they had to come to dc for an event which again we score because a lot of people come to dc yes and so we invited them down for the day on saturday well there's a local brewery that we love that's about about 15 minutes from our house.
And we decided to take them there. And then as it turned out, a lot of my friends, I had a high school buddy that was coming back into town, but I told them I couldn't go to their party because we had our own party. And then we went to the brewery and they were there too. And there was a festival going on at the brewery.
So we were going go because there were like six breweries there yeah we were going to go have a couple of beers because of the half marathon the next day we didn't want to drink too much that was the original plan but the guy they you you bought tokens and then you change your tokens in for beer and the band was playing and the music was outstanding and they had so many different kinds of beer you couldn't just try it was so interesting they had like salted lime some i didn't like that saison and they had a oh my gosh i don't know something with pecans they had a rye that rye barley wine is what got me in trouble and that was a that was or 12% alcohol.
Yes, and it was tasty. Yeah, and so we tried about three or four, and then my other friends showed up, and then people were just throwing tokens everywhere, and we kept trying to stop, and they said, well, I got more tokens. You've got to drink more beer. And so, I don't know, we had at least six. Yeah. And again, two of mine were 11% alcohol.
so we came back to the house with our friends and we were having salmon on the grill for dinner and mrs jones was a bit of a mess at that point in time so much so that at one point in time i had already taken the fish out and i had put it on the grill and i came back in and and when i came in, you were standing there with the refrigerator open and you were looking at the refrigerator and I said, and our friends were talking and you were just standing there and I said, honey, what are you looking for? And you said, I can't find the stand on it.
I said, you mean the one that you put lemon on and you put all the herbs and spices on that I just took out and put on the grill. I think somebody else did that because I still don't remember that. That's when I knew how bad it was. Yeah. Yeah. But then after you got some food in your stomach, you rallied a bit. Until the next morning. Yeah. Oof. Yeah. And you're normally a mess on race day anyway. And I was dreading the next morning. Well, the race started at 7. So we had to leave the house at 5.30. Yeah.
So we had to get up at 4 45 and yeah and i'm not a morning person anyway so i took some advil tried to eat a little bit of breakfast didn't really feel sick but i didn't feel hungry yeah the advil wore off at mile six yeah so then every step after that was like thump in my head it was so bad yeah and I and I was standing at the finish line looking at my watch saying well she'll be here in a couple minutes well she'll be here in a couple more minutes yeah certainly 15 minutes past my normal time and I was positioned where I thought I was going to see you and I didn't see you I didn't see you and come.
And, you know, at the end of the race, you looked pretty good. Yeah, I had kind of perked up at the end. And then they gave us the free beer at the end. You didn't drink much of that free beer. Yeah, and it was a good beer. It was a Goose Island IPA. It wasn't your typical super light, watery beer.
So, yeah, I drank just a couple sips because that's just what you do after you finish half marathon and then i gave the rest of mr jones well you know in contrast to that last half we ran in march where the weather was horrible the weather was beautiful it was it was chilly and kind of breezy it was in the high 40s oh and it was sunny at least for the most part yeah not too breezy until the race finished yeah i got well it got breezy at the end of my race because i took it like 40 minutes longer than you yeah or so yeah yeah um but anyway but one really cool thing that happened after that is we were standing in line waiting for our beer and we saw saw...
Yeah, we saw Jay and Kay from a brand-new podcast, a lifestyle podcast called That Couple Next Door. So they live in our vicinity and ran the same race as us. And then what are the odds? There they were right after we finished. Yeah, it was strange. I mean, I posted something on Twitter about, what did I, I posted something on Twitter. Oh, no, they posted that she was training and she was listening to our podcast and she took a picture and we could see our logo on her phone. And then I said, well, we're on a half marathon.
And then we took our conversation offline and realized it was the same half marathon and that we only lived about a half an hour away from each other. Right. So sure enough, I mean, there were like, what, 8,000 people that ran that race? At least. And then right after the race, there they were and we recognized them and they recognized us. So we got to meet face to face and we had actually already made plans to go out to dinner with them next week.
Yeah, but admittedly, most of the times you meet a swinger couple for the first time you've been showered shaved your hair's done your perfume cologne you're looking at your best way you came across the line haven't been drunk all morning and the four of us actually no one really looks thank god for sunglasses that's all i gotta say yeah so uh hopefully uh that didn't yeah we were all kind of crusty because you know after you run for a couple hours you you sweat and then your sweat dries and then you have like all this like salt on your face and it's just it's not pretty yeah so anyway that that um that's enough half marathons for a while we probably won't do any more till the fall but right yeah Yeah.
So that's keeping up with the Joneses. We've been busy, but not as much lifestyle stuff. We feel like we have some balance back in our lives, which is important. So when we come back into segment two, we're going to talk about setting the stage, when and how to talk to your partner about swinging. Stay tuned. Okay, well, welcome back to segment two of our podcast tonight.
So what we're going to talk about tonight is how to have that initial conversation with your partner about your desire for you as a couple to start swinging how and just as importantly when when yeah timing i think is everything yeah so there's a couple different reasons we wanted to talk about this tonight first of all we've had've had people flat out ask us about it. How do I do this? How do I have this conversation?
And then we've just had people share some funny stories, some tragic stories about their attempts to talk to their partner that, you know, haven't gone well or they've admittedly blundered and recovered from it um you know so they they are are just curious as to what is the right technique to initiate that conversation without alienating your partner yes like you want to do what you know that that isn't the reaction you want to get from your partner you want to get a hmm tell me more about that or let's talk about that yeah and they're asking us because they have the misunderstanding that we know the answer to this I don't know this is kind of the blind leading the blind i guess yeah it is and you know as far as like how we did it yeah let's start with what we did yeah we've talked about all this before but but really what what happened with us is that we not we didn't have the um situation where one of us had to approach the other one and say i've really been thinking about this what do you think because we unwittingly booked this trip to desire to go on a clothing optional sexy vacation and we didn't know that the lifestyle was a welcome part of society at Desire.
And as we booked the vacation and had a few months before we left, I have to like meticulously research all the resorts we go to, whether it's a lifestyle vacation or a vanilla vacation. I mean, we go on a cruise, I have to like like do it. You do all of that. I memorize the deck plans on every single deck of the cruise ship. And so that's just my deal. So I started researching desire. And as I've told you guys before, I kept seeing this word lifestyle. I had no idea what it was about. So together, Mr. Jones and I started doing a little bit of research.
Well, let's back up for so when normal vacations yeah the only my contribution is i say book it right you do everything else and i'm like but honey it's going to cost this much and you're like i don't care just book it but in this case when you came to me and you started mentioning this lifestyle all of a sudden i was really interested in researching this vacation as much as you were your ears perked right up i was like, what? Hey, wait, I want to help. I want to help book this. I want to help research this. Well, I probably shied away from it a little bit more at first.
And then all of a sudden you got really curious. Um, so we both did research in our own ways, but I think you really were the one that charged ahead and, and we're really trying, you were trying to find out more about the lifestyle in general. I was trying to stick to the resort and the, the opportunity for just sexy times as, as a couple there. Um, but you were really, really curious. Yeah. I was mostly curious about the, like when I found out what went on there, I wanted to know about what type of people went there, you know, what sort of people go and do these crazy things, right?
And why are we going to vacation with them? Right. And, and how are we going to fit into that? Yeah. You know, that was, I think that was our biggest obstacle. Is it, is this something that we're going to want to shy away from and just stick to ourselves? Or is this something that we're going to want to kind of explore?
right and we knew we had the safety valve of desire not being a lifestyle resort it's clothing optional so if we decided to opt out it wasn't we still could have a good time right because many people go to desire that are not swingers and have no intentions of exploring that yeah and they still have a fabulous time and get along with everybody i mean you can be very social and not have sex with them so i started listening to podcasts and we've mentioned this before and we started i think we found playboy tv right yeah i think from the podcast i think you heard about playboy swing yeah and we started watching that and that's when i began to realize that the people that were being described that uh went there oh there.
Oh, and you found the desire forum. Yes. Yeah. So, so tons of information on there. So, and we'll put a link to the desire forum on our website as well.
I mean, the desire forum is awesome to find out about the resort if you're going to desire, but it also has a lot of good information about lifestyle on it and how newbies can kind of navigate that, you initial foray into this kind of environment right so it was a lot of fun before we went and then as time got closer and closer that's when we really started feeling the pressure to talk about this and I think one night you even said to me something like are we are we just going to talk about this are we we really going to participate? Are we really going to do this? Well, right.
Because as we were doing our research, we kept talking about this in the third person. This is what other people do. And, and, you know, this is how they reacted. And, and we never really, it took a while for us to start saying, well, how would, do you think we would react if we did something like that? You know, that was a, a transition that we had to gently get across. Well, and I think being the, um, the man of the house and the guy and the testosterone, you know, and, and you put that question to me and I said, well, I'll do it if you'll do it. Yeah, Mr. Brave.
Yeah, I went out big time, and it didn't seem to bother you any. We were both back and forth. We were both at the same place. Well, you always like to throw that show, Swingtown, in my face when I always say, it was your idea, because you'll always come back to that, because I like that show so much. Well, and that's part of it. But, you know, that's a part of the when to have this conversation because we watched that Swingtown show years before we went to Desire. Yeah, I think that show came out in 2009. And I was just looked it up. I forget.
I was intrigued by the show because they were swingers. And I kept looking out of the corner of my eye at you thinking, I wonder what's going through her head. But you kept saying you liked the show. I did. But I didn't have the nerve at that point in time to ask you to talk about it because I knew then you were going to ask me about it, and I didn't want to talk about it. I just wanted to hear what you had to say about it. But we did talk about the show. But again, we would always talk about it in the third person. Well, they should have had this conversation.
Or I can't believe he tried to do that without talking to his wife first. Or, you know, we would only talk about how those other people were reacting and we never brought it to, how would you and I have handled that situation? Yeah. Because we were chickens. Yeah. So you've heard most of our story before, but ultimately we did that research.
We, um, but, but before we went to desire, the last thing that we talked about was, well well we're going to go with the flow um we're going to see who we meet and we're going to talk about it when we get there but the bottom line is we felt like our relationship was strong enough to withstand testing the boundaries right because we did start to have conversations where it was well how are we going to react and and like when, when we had those conversations before we went on our vacation, we never pointed the finger at each other and said, I can't believe you'd want to sleep with another woman, or I can't believe you'd want to give another guy a blow job or whatever.
You know, we never felt that insecurity or anxiety where we started like pointing fingers at each other. Like, why do you want to sleep with somebody i not good enough for you or what am i not giving you that you have to find somewhere else right because i would have retreated right away oh yeah so what have i yeah so anyway that's that's how that's how we started yes so we didn't have this traditional um i'm curious i want to talk to you about this situation. So everybody has a different experience. Right. Now we did get a couple of emails that we'd like to share.
One of them I'm going to read to you. One is a story about a couple who did it right. And the other one we're going to paraphrase and summarize the other email, but it's about a guy, a couple who did it wrong. He admits he did it wrong. He admits that he did it wrong, right. And then hopefully by, and then we'll share an experience that we just had on a recent date. Yeah, meeting another couple. As to why we're doing this. Okay, so I'm going to read this email verbatim. And again, this story is a good story. Well, I won't talk about it. I'll just read it. Okay. Okay.
Hey there, Mr mr and mrs jones we used to watch a reality tv show that was based on four male escorts and their exploits in las vegas we visit there three to four times a year so i would always tease my wife about which gigolo she wanted me to get for her the next time we went she would always laugh and blush but never take me serious on my offer. However, she also never said no. Instead, she often admitted that it sounded like fun but wasn't sure she could ever do that. We watched a lot of threesome and group porn and both enjoyed it tremendously.
Over time, what was once her fantasy of two men somehow became my fantasy of wanting to share her, pleasure her, and watch her ecstasy. On one such trip, I decided to surprise her and make it happen. After getting sticker-shocked for a few hours of escort service, I decided to try the single guy route. To make a long story short, after several emails, quite a few text messages, and one missed personal connection, we finally connected with our single guy on Sunday night. We met him at a I hope you enjoyed this video.
after several after several emails quite a few text messages and one missed personal connection we finally connected with our single guy on Sunday night we met him at a hotel bar and I could tell my wife was definitely interested although somewhat nervous her single guy was quite the gentleman and was great about engaging us both not just her we talked about the lifestyle and after we after we were all comfortable I asked if we wanted to go upstairs and finish our drinks, and everyone agreed.
Our suite overlooked the Strip, and we had a perfect view of the Bellagio, the Paris Hotel, Casino, as well as the Eiffel Tower. The room was lavishly furnished, a leather section on the living room area, Shea's Lounge, and the bedroom, along with a hot tub bar and all the other fun amenities you would expect from a Vegas hotel suite. After some nervous chit-chat, my wife decided to get the party started by telling both of us to move closer to her as she was sitting on the center corner of an L-shaped sectional, and he and I were sitting at opposite ends of it.
We both moved closer and nervously chatted for a few more minutes. He remained the gentleman he was polite patient and never attempted to touch her not even a subtle touching of the knee or forearm i finally said to her it's okay for you to touch him then i looked at him and continued with his permission of course he smiled at both of us and was more than willing much to my pleasant surprise my usually shy wife jumped up and straddled him. She literally ripped open his snapped, closed, button-down shirt and began kissing him. He reached around and grabbed her two handfuls of her luscious ass.
I came around from behind and undid her dress, dropping it over her shoulders and exposing her large firm breasts. I cupped her breasts from behind and he began to suck her taut nipples. She looked up at me standing behind her. I leaned over and kissed her sexy grinning mouth. We moved through a variety of positions taking turns sharing and pleasuring her. After a while I just sat back and watched her enjoy herself all the the while thinking to myself, holy shit, this is crazy, but it's hot.
I thoroughly enjoyed watching her repeatedly take him into and out of her mouth and then ride his cock while she gave me that cat who ate the canary grin. So it was a pretty sexy story. But at the beginning, you know, they talked about talking about it, and he would mention this as a joke, and she laughed, and she blushed, and she didn't take it seriously, but she never said no, and then she eventually admitted that it sounded like fun, wasn't sure she could ever do that, and so they talked about it jokingly at first, and then he could tell that she was interested.
So so obviously had a pretty good relationship because he was reading her and then he took a pretty bold step you know to try to make it happen but the fact of the matter is the original kind of the groundwork had been set they had talked about it right so this is um this is a story that says there's more than one way to do it besides just saying hey you know i'd like to have sex with other people, you know, this is a, this is a story that says there's more than one way to do it besides just saying, hey, you know, I'd like to have sex with other people.
You know, this is a this is a I thought a positive story to share. Yep, definitely. So the other email that we got that was kind of on the opposite side was a gentleman who shared with us that he had talked his wife into trying the lifestyle. and after they she agreed um he got he forgot about her and went on ahead he got way ahead of her in the lifestyle and it scared her a little bit and so she just decided she didn't want to do it anymore and then that whole thing happened again he finally i think he let he let like a couple years go by i think. He did the right thing.
He let time go by and then he tried it again and he did the same thing. And so he admitted that, you know, he did it the wrong way. He admitted that he was trying to convince her and it was what he wanted to do. And he didn't wait for her once they got in. And now he's at a point where he doesn't know if it's ever going to happen again. Right. So I don't, from reading that email, I don't remember that their experiences were horrible. At least I remember one of them was a pretty good experience.
But I think maybe it was their, I don't know, maybe lack of communication afterwards where either she began to feel insecure or something.
so it was I think it was just timing and maybe not a thorough communication process yeah he doesn't think all is lost but he knows that he has to just wait for her to mention it because he's already got two strikes you know he's already messed it up twice but his his email was actually kind of funny in a bittersweet way because i didn't he call himself like a bonehead yeah he admitted he admitted it was his fault and and he acknowledged when we said back you know what she knows you're interested so you're just going to have to wait because if you push it again you know you're just going to push her away right you know so that so the timing has to be right and you can't you know you have to stay on the same page right and he has to you know be patient and then and then read her Here we go.
You know, so that, so the timing has to be right and you can't, you know, you have to stay on the same page. Right. And he has to, you know, be patient and then, and then read her. Right. You know, she'll, she'll let him know when she's ready. Yeah. In some fashion. Yeah. So the next thing that we want to talk about is a dinner date that we just had maybe a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. I think this was the experience that sealed the deal on this month's topic. Yeah.
Um, we had met a couple online and uh they were very attractive and we had some well you had some good conversations with the gentleman it just started out the two of you it was email between the two of us yeah so and i guess it was the husband that was emailing and then it was you as well so it was just two guys at first so then we decided that we would meet for dinner and that was when uh you sent him our contact information and we started doing um like a four well we thought would be a four-way communication but um his wife never participated right so so we sent him your phone number and mine.
Right. And he only gave his. Yeah. So it was a three way, but he indicated, he indicated he was sharing the information with her. And he may have been, I mean, you know, we don't know that that didn't happen. Right. Um, so anyway, we met them for dinner and everybody was prompt and they were just as attractive as they were in their pictures. And, and we, we hit it off really well and had a pre dinner cocktail and then sat down and ordered some appetizers and some dinner and, and we're having, we were having really good conversation. We had a lot in common.
Um, and then when dinner was over and we were, you know, trying to get into that little transition phase where you start to kind of figure out, you know, where they are in the lifestyle and what they're interested in and, and what kind of connection the four of us could, could make. Um, we weren't really getting any kind of vibe from her. Um. So then we started asking. He asked us some really specific questions about our lifestyle experiences and what we liked and what we didn't like. And we were both very, both of us were equally engaged in answering those questions.
She, when we tried to reciprocate and ask them questions, wouldn't answer any any of our questions well i asked her specifically was she because i couldn't remember from their profile i said are you i don't recall are you bi-curious bisexual are you straight and she just looked at him and said i don't know what did you put on the website you know i don't so that was her answer It was like he does he does all that stuff i don't know what he put on what did you put on right you know and we don't care what's on the website we wanted to know you know what what she was into and um you know i never really got any kind of vibe from her that she was really interested in me or or you or anything and she i think she was very um reluctant to express anything like that yeah and the other thing that we just came out and asked her i just came out and asked her i said well um why are you doing this i said why why are you because she they they've had limited experiences and she didn't really have anything positive to say about any of their experiences.
Well, she, she was, they were kind of neutral statements. They weren't positive or negative. And I said, well, why are you, why are you doing this? And her answer was, well, we're not getting any younger. And I thought that was a strange answer. Again, it didn't really indicate that she liked it.
and we talked to them for a little while longer and we agreed he was very engaging oh yeah almost too much so it's like he was trying to uh yeah he answered up for her he did answer reluctant he tried to answer for her on a few things but again that was another indicator another indicator that she wasn't answering for herself. But she never really was sorry that he or was mad that he was doing that. No, I never. She was perfectly engaged, I mean, with the conversation. Right.
But as far as the lifestyle conversation went, she never really participated or never really took ownership of her desire or interest like i never really felt like she wanted to do it yeah i never felt any kind of like attraction right it was she was just very neutral very very pleasant um it wasn't like she was pouting because she had to be there he didn't drag her there there. No, no. But again, there was just nothing there on her end. Yeah, so almost immediately when we left and we said, you know, we'll email you guys or maybe we can get together again.
And we got in the car and we started talking on the way home. And I and I was to make excuses for her because she was really attractive. She was really pretty. And all I could think about was her body. Yeah, she's very petite petite so my testosterone level was impacting my ability to think straight but fortunately you you said it right away i can't what did you say i mean i just had all kinds of red flags going up she was just not engaged yeah it's you said i don't even know that they've had a conversation about this.
And that's what reminded us about this topic was that they had not had the conversations that we're talking about having. And, you know, he was definitely the one. And after you said that, and then again, the next morning we talked about it again, and my testosterone and blood pressure levels were back down to normal.
I could see it, you that point in time that that's probably indeed you know what was going on yeah i think we'll have to take a pass on i know it's a shame because they were very nice and very attractive but yeah something isn't quite set there yeah they need to do a little bit of work okay so let's let's give let's give you some practical guidance on this. What are we, we're going to throw out a few things.
And, um, the first thing is that you really need to know your partner and, and we say we're kind of, gosh, we say this because we've been together 31 years, so we know each other, but we've met a lot of people, including this couple that we just met that had only been together for maybe one or two years. Right. So, you know, you really need to know your partner and know them well enough to assess whether or not it's something that they might like, um, without, you know, forcing the issue. Right. Yeah. Well, and, and knowing how you can bring it up with them without, um, alienating them.
That's right. Yeah. So you've obviously had enough years of experience to know how to talk to them the wrong way about vanilla things. So, you know, you don't use the, I w I want to do this and, you know, you have to know them well enough to know, okay, what time of day should I talk to her? You know, when is the best time? Should I wait until she has something to drink? Should I wait until the weekend? You know? Right. Cause if you offer her a cocktail or you offer him a cocktail, because maybe it's the lady bringing it up, Mr. Jones, you know, don't stereotype.
So, you know, would your partner do better with a cocktail or are they going to Take the fact that you're trying to push alcohol on them as a, Oh, what are they trying to, to talk me into here or something, you know? So every couple is different. So you, you have to figure out how to set the stage. Right. So like I've been thinking about this, what do you think about it?
Or when you're watching porn together, you know, and say know and say hey which what was your favorite scene you know in that movie and these are open-ended questions that you know that there's really no right or wrong answer to it's just and that'll help you understand what it is that they might be interested in you know so you know explore things together and and you know you have to be ready to answer the question back because if I'm going to ask you what did you like about the movie you're going to turn it right back around on me and ask me what I liked you know about it probably yes and I got to be prepared you know to answer that as well so you know find ways to start a conversation that's natural.
And then we already talked about listening to a podcast, watching porn together. Playboy Swing is still available on Playboy TV. And sharing fantasies is a way too, if your partner is one that fantasizes and talks about that. Right, because then you can start, if you're watching porn and there's more than two people in a scene, you can kind of say, kind of put yourself into a particular role. And the same thing with your partner. How would you feel about having two men in the room when you're having sex?
So just anything to start a conversation instead of just saying i want to have sex with other people yeah probably not going to go over well with most people right and i and i could immediately put that other person on the defensive yeah and for guys a lot of us guys are blockheads as you've stated plenty of times in the past, Mrs. Jones. Yeah, well. We can sometimes get a whole litany of questions that we think we need to ask to get you there. But what we fail to do is gauge your response to those questions. Right. I was going to say, listen to the answers. So that's what I'm getting to.
When you throw something out there, like, hey, what did you think about that scene? Or what did you think? What was your favorite part of that movie? You have to stop and shut up and listen and respond or not respond based on what the feedback was. So if it's completely negative, like I didn't like that at all. I thought that was gross. But you try to talk her into it. What do you mean you didn't? You mean you didn't like this or you didn't like that? Well, already you're taking it down. So patience, patience. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, and I just admit it.
I was guilty of it when my testosterone levels were high. So you just have to keep that in mind is watch their response.
Try to determine, just like the guy in the email when he threw these things out there and his wife didn't say no and she joked about it and giggled about it and laughed about it and that gave him a sense that it would be something that she would be interested in but had she reacted negatively you know he and i think he had thrown it out there more than once yeah over a period of time you know so i think that's what probably gave him the courage to go ahead and set something up yeah yeah so so and then when you listen and you observe then form your next question based on you know what's going on and sometimes us guys have a hard time right because i mean that's what you and i did we start we talked about everything in the third person first yeah you know before we actually started putting our discuss maybe we did it mentally individually yeah i guess by fantasizing about it but as far as having that conversation it took a while of course we've always admitted that we're kind of slow yeah but deliberate yeah deliberate yeah that'sate.
Yeah. That's a nice way to put it. But you know, it took us a long time to, to make that transition from just talking about it objectively, watching other people do stuff or listening to a podcast of other people's adventures to actually starting to interject ourselves into those scenarios and explore it together at the right pace. And we we've talked about this, but not in this context. And that is, um, you know, allow things to progress over a period of time. It doesn't, you know, depending on how they respond, then you should be prepared to say, Oh, well, here's what I liked about it.
And maybe start a conversation about something that you enjoyed, but you equally asking and telling so that the the other partner doesn't feel like they're being interrogated you know there should be some back and forth right about even if even if your partner doesn't turn it back on you say oh well yeah you like that part the part i liked was you know this part so not only do you have to gauge their reaction to what you've asked them that they like, but then you need to gauge their reaction on what you say you like to see how they respond to that. Because again, it's feedback.
It's always going to be feedback. And if you can somehow frame it so that you're like creating something that you can do together, not like I need this and I need you to help me make it happen. But wouldn't it be fun if we explored this together, whether we actually interact with other people someday, it would sure be fun to just talk about it. Yeah.
And to, you know, kind of check out that that little subculture of society yeah and and i've mentioned this before too but the thing that i one of the things that i did wrong was i didn't really know what i wanted to get out of it myself so you really do need to have a good idea of um what you want to get out of it because if your spouse and assuming it's the wife this time to come back and say, what do you, why are you asking me this? Do you want to have sex with other people? You need to be able to say, well, really what I want to do this together. I'd like to do this with you.
I'd like to see you pleasured by another man. And I'd, I've thought about being another with another woman, but I don't know what you would think about that.
I mean, you have to be prepared to something you can't just keep it focused on her or like you said if it's the lady asking you know because you got frustrated with me because i kept asking you yeah and it was like i wanted to throw the bullshit card down because i'm like seriously there's got to be something that you want out of it yeah you know this this isn't so you can just watch me have sex with other people yeah so but it took you a long time to actually it did process that and verbalize it to me yes we've talked about that before but once i figured it out i got pretty good at it not an issue anymore slow learner once i get there yeah um and then maybe before we we should probably talk about how not to do some things too.
Um, but this comes down to like common sense relationship one-on-one, but maybe it's not so common sense. Yeah. I mean, we've already touched on a couple of them, but yeah, don't, yeah, just don't say I want to have sex with other people. Starting that out with, you know, I want to do this is probably going to put that other person on the defensive. Right.
So i it just so what do you think about this yeah what do you have you ever thought about this or you know i i've watched this show or i've heard about this show and i googled it and it looks really interesting and and i wanted to know if you would want to like listen to this podcast with me or watch the show with me or read this book or this article, you know, cause there's so many different ways to obtain information. Yeah. And be honest about it. I mean, even say things like, I don't know why I'm feeling this way.
I don't know why it turns me on to think about you with another person, but it does. And I, and it's confusing to me and, and it just turns me on. And, and that's not even a question.
That's just a statement of a fact about how you feel but and you're you're admitting that you're curious about it and you don't understand it and so that's a a better way to open it up instead of just saying i want to do this right don't you want to do that or why don't you want to do that right frame it as an adventure that you can can do together and then that'll you know make it seem fun and and naughty and and i think the thing i like best about this mr jones is that you and i have this like dirty little secret you know that nobody knows about except for these few people listening to our well yeah and our and our awesome lifestyle friends but yeah but like you know our family and vanilla friends and right you know everybody at the brewery that was watching me get drunker and drunker and drunker on Saturday.
Nobody knew, you know, what we do. So it's fun. Yeah. And we mentioned patience in the last episode, but we're going to say it this time again is don't rush things. And that goes for you as a couple or you as an individual. Yeah.
it at your own pace now having said that we just said that we're deliberate you know there are people out there that you know maybe we'll hit it right head on and have success doing that oh yeah i mean everybody has a different personality a different way of of handling stuff right and if you feel like that's your relationship and personality, then as long as you've thought it through. And again, it's knowing yourself and knowing your partner. Let us know how that works out for you. Um, and you, you said something to me. No, it wasn't you.
Uh, the very first couple that we met in the lifestyle. Yes. Our very first lifestyle friends. And what'd she say to you? I mean, we were talking about our struggles with them. you know, finally I, I was sharing stuff with her and she said, you know what? She said, don't feel bad because I, she said, I think oftentimes fantasy is much better than the reality. You know, thinking about having sex is a lot of times better than the sex itself.
You know, it's the buildup and, you know, all the flirting flirting and and that mental foreplay that you're having and and i mean that could even be true with your partner you know you you're you're all worked up about something and then by you know by the time you end up playing maybe you're just like tired or whatever and and sometimes it just doesn't work out the way it had you had anticipated it to work out but i think in the lifestyle that really happens a lot and i remember when she said that because that's when i was going through the jealousy thing right and it irritated me because i was like no no no i i do want to do this i do want to do this i and i was afraid that she might be right wasn't saying it to tell us not to swing.
No, no. But I am just telling you what I was going through at that point in time when I heard that, right. You know, I was, I was more, you know, I didn't want to give up because I wasn't convinced that it wasn't going to be a good thing and that the fantasy and the reality was going to be just as good or even better than the reality. Yeah. But I mean, sometimes when we, we play with couples, I mean, it's fun, but I think the, the buildup to it has been more fun. Yeah. Now that's not always true because sometimes the reality is pretty absolutely amazing. Yes. Yeah. But it can be hit or miss.
And especially when you play with somebody the first time. Yeah. Because you don't know them. They don't know your body. You don't know their body. And you're trying so hard to please them. Yeah. And they're trying so hard to please you. And then you're nervous. And that kind of makes it harder for you to relax and get into the enjoyment of it. Now we're getting back into episode 15, if we only knew then. So we need to put these two episodes together. Well, but I mean, that's all part of it, though. You know, you have all of this anticipation and build up.
And you have to understand that you just need to take your time. Because if you rush it, you're not going to be able to appreciate it right now i have a warning for the guys out there and i think you share this you mean the blockheads out there yeah and this is a generalization by the way this is a generalization so before you email me and complain this is a generalization have observed personally, and we have been told by others, and we have heard from other lifestyle friends, and we have heard on other podcasts. I have no idea what he's about to say.
That a lot of times, it's going to be the gentleman who is driving the conversation about getting the couple into the lifestyle true however once the couple is in the lifestyle and the woman takes control the guy struggles oh yeah and that so guys i know this may sound like common sense but your wife is gonna have be having sex with another guy while you're having sex with this woman that you're fantasizing about so don't forget that part of the equation it's like sometimes we have a one-track mind and we think about what we want and we've seen it we have seen it yeah in play where all of a sudden the guy realizes it looks over his shoulder and he sees his wife with me or somebody else and all of a sudden this isn't what I thought it was going to be so you need to at least consider that it's going to happen now you may not know how you're going to respond to it when it happens but don't let that take you by surprise because we've seen this, I'm not going to say it's prevalent because our sample size isn't that large, but, but we have experience.
Right. We have. And, and, you know, you, you want your spouse to enjoy themselves and have fun. And, you know, that, that's obviously the objective. you want to enjoy yourself and have fun too but when you look over and you see the love of your life being pleasured and receiving pleasure from somebody else all of a sudden you're kind of left out of the equation well you know what happens you know i mean speaking for myself i'm with you for 29 years when we get into this.
And, and I, now, and then, and then I looked over at you and you're with another guy and you're, you know, I'm, I'm hearing the sounds you normally make and I'm watching your eyes roll back in your head and I'm watching your body start to quiver as you're having all these orgasms.
And then that little seed of comes into my mind like wait how is he able to do that you know is he doing something better than i'm doing because we're competitive guys are a little bit competitive sometimes so maybe it's not even jealousy maybe it's more competitiveness and if you let that thought into your mind and guys know one little thought like that and the blood rushes from below your waist to back above your waist yeah you know and it really can be something that you have to work through so just a word of warning to you guys think about that before you get into it don't let that stop you because dang it's worth the it's worth the effort it's definitely worth the you know, I mean, ladies, we experience self-doubt too because we have so many body image issues.
And sometimes I think that could be a reason why women are reluctant to have the conversation because they're like, there's no way I'm going to be naked in front of other people because, you know, I've had two kids and I have stretch marks and I'm, you know, I'm not 25 years old anymore and I have wrinkles or, you know, whatever it is about our bodies that we're unhappy with. And unfortunately, I think every woman has a little bit of self-doubt about something about our bodies just because of the way the media is.
And, you know, that you, you really have to swallow that and just say, okay, well, whatever couple we're going to be with, that woman's got to have her own personal issues and, and not let that become, you know, a mental competition. Well said. Yeah. It's hard. It really is hard.
Um, once you realize that and acknowledge it and you can kind of put that in its proper place then it can be really fun yes we yeah it is really fun uh so enough of the of the negative stuff but um you know continue these conversations even if you're in the lifestyle like us right like i think you know one thing we learned we learned about this hump fest was afterwards when we were sitting around talking with all of our friends. Oh, I know. And we were talking about things we had never talked about with other people.
And you made the comment again, somehow, you know, you're a lot more astute in these situations than I am. That's because all my blood doesn't drain from my brain to other body parts. But you made a good, you made a good point that, that before you get in the lifestyle and maybe you can say it, you know what I'm talking about? You were telling me that before you get in the lifestyle, it's just the two of us. Right.
But after you, after you get in the lifestyle and you're able to connect with some other couples and now you can have these conversations with other couples and you can bounce ideas off of them and, and you can share your, your fears and your struggles because they have the same stuff.
It might be centered around a different issue, but they have the same fears and struggles and, and they get it because they're going through the same stuff yeah so we're sitting at this table with 12 people around it after this after this film festival and we're talking about all this stuff i mean we we had seen things that we had never seen before on video so we're we're just frankly talking about them with all these other people which was great because we were with some really intelligent, um, insightful people. And it wasn't just this, you know, ha ha drunk fest conversation.
We had some pretty deep stuff going on around the table. So then Mr. Jones and I came home and, um, had our own conversation, I think a martini Monday afterwards.
We sat down with our little slip of paper that had all the titles of the videos on it and we started talking about them again just the two of us yeah and we talked about some stuff that we've never talked about before well i mean i have to admit to be perfectly honest i mean and and to your point and the couple that we're gonna go to dinner with tomorrow night yes he and i were talking afterwards and I said you know I have to tell you that I watched gay guys have sex and I said you know watching them kiss bothered me more than watching anything else and that that wasn't what I expected I expected to have to turn my head away and to not pay attention, but there was so much emotion and they were real people.
And there was a real connection there that I, it, what, something that I thought was going to make me turn my head away because I'm straight. I didn't. And I, and I watched it and, you know, it didn't turn me on, but it didn't turn me off. Like I thought, you know, so, and I'm able to, and you know, what's so funny about that you and I, there were probably, there are three gay sex vignettes that I distinctly remember. I think there were probably a couple more. I had very different reactions to them than you did. Um, and, and what Mr.
Jones and I found out is I wasn't, I wasn't put off, but I didn't relate to, or maybe appreciate the ones where the two guys were just having rough sex with you, with each other. Like there was oneignette where um one of the guys had tied up the other one and it was all about dominance and and it was hot and it was i mean the sex was hot and there was a lot of passion between them but there was an affection and i think i don't know i i can't speak for speak for you, but I don't know how that like affected you.
But what I do know is that there was another vignette that was completely opposite of that. There was a lot of affection between the two men and there was kissing and a lot of touching and holding along with the really hot sex. And I liked that because I felt the connection between the two of them. I think that connection kind of put you out of your comfort zone a little bit, that affectionate connection. Yeah. Well, I haven't really thought about it that deeply.
The point I was making was that that I actually I actually told another guy yeah you know that I that this is this was what I experienced and so back to your point about having friends that you can share things with the fact that I could tell another guy what I thought about that um good bad or indifferent I felt I had the I was comfortable enough and I felt like I had the freedom to express what I liked and disliked without being judged.
And that's back to your point is, is once you're in the lifestyle and you're fortunate enough as we are to have a few friends that you become close to, then it's takes the pressure off of your relationship because then you're hearing things from other couples who have struggled or experienced things. And all of a sudden it takes the pressure off your relationship because you can say, Oh, well, if they liked it or if she said this, or if he said that, that makes me feel better that it's coming from somebody different. True. True. So, yeah.
I mean, these friends that put this whole, uh, evening for a hump're they're a very smart savvy couple yes i mean they're intelligent but they're also very good at at looking at things from the bigger picture yeah and they don't get caught up in the in the biases that people can have yeah i love that about them they're also funny too oh and then and then um they're sexy we can't forget they're sexy but they're funny too yes they were arguing in front of the whole group but they were doing it in a playful manner yeah they were i swear they were setting a stop watch he was a little upset you told me i could have five minutes and you like gave me two and a half no no she says no she says uh-uh it's my turn to talk and so he just sat there and he's rolling his eyes but he's letting her go on and he says finally are you done because i want equal time and then he started and he says you didn't even give me five minutes you got i gave you 10 you didn't even give me five you gave me two and a half and you're right and we were laughing so hard at them and they were trying to have a they were trying to have a serious conversation and we were all we weren't we weren't helping yeah anyway but they are a great couple and and can i just go on record saying this is going to be the third time that we've seen them just for social events and we haven't played with them yeah i think is that a complaint or is that, that is a complaint.
We need to make an adjustment here somehow. All right, I hear you. All right, so let's close this section. We're going to leave you with a few closing thoughts. You know, creating the right conditions. Yes. Keep that in mind. Choosing the right timing. Timing is everything.
Yes, there's the right time to bring it up and then there's a wrong time to bring it up and if you don't know when that is it's probably best not to bring it up that's right until you know the person a little bit better yeah um know why you want to try it but don't lead with that that's right you know so you've got to know what it is that you're going to get out of it, but that's not how you start the conversation. You want to think about the other person. And this one, this next one is yours. Listen more than you talk. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're telling me that. Yes. Yeah.
Well, I think wasn't it your grandma that used to say, God gave you two ears and one mouth. So, you know, you need to use your ears. I don't think she came up with that. I think a of grandmas yeah i think that's a grandma thing yeah guys listen especially guys listen more than you talk and uh introduce it a little bit of a time and allow things to sink in and then figure out the right time to continue because i'll promise you this you mention something, I'm from a guy's perspective.
If you mention something about your wife wanting to see her with another woman or wanting to see her with another man and she does not respond, that doesn't mean that she's not thinking about it. Right. She will be thinking about it and processing it. And it may take a day or two or a week, but she'll be processing it.
So just because you don't get a response right away, first first of all you should probably just pause and not go any further but you know give her time to process that and then come back with some just figure out a way to plant that seed yes you know just give your partner something to think about and mr jones you keep thinking it's the guy that's bringing it i'm sorry that sorry. That's my perspective. That's my perspective. I know, but this very well could be the lady bringing it up to the gentleman. Yeah. And we actually know a couple of couples that have gone that route. Yes.
So it's not unheard of. Yeah. That's a whole nother. Yeah. You can take everything we just said and spin it around. Yeah. Well, hopefully this has been helpful. Admittedly, this um this is a really tough tough topic and a lot of just like a lot of other things that we talk about there's no pat answer that we can give you that's gonna work everybody's different everybody has a different way of communicating with their partner right but the bottom line is it it's communication and listening. Right. So good luck.
And hey, send us some emails and let us know if you've tried this out, what we screwed up or what we forgot to tell you. And see, this will be one great thing about having our new website is people will be able to just chime right in and say, hey, about that last podcast you did, I have something to add to that. Yeah. We'll keep the conversation going. Yep, a few more months and we'll be able to do that. Oh, I can't wait. All right, so when we come back, this time we promise you we have some sexy snapshots. Very sexy.
Welcome back to my favorite segment of the show our snapshot segment and we have uh two snapshots from listeners this month and then of course mr jones and i each have our own snapshot mr jones's snapshot that he's going to read from a listener it ties back to one of the emails that mr jones talked about earlier yeah so the email that i read you about the couple from las vegas they also included a snapshot so i thought it only be appropriate that we finish their story with the snapshot it was a sexy story to begin with but it gets even better yeah and a little bit funny okay a lot funny so they were having sex remember this is the couple that had the single guy come up to their hotel suite in Las Vegas.
My snapshot of the whole evening was actually quite a funny one. The single guy was sitting on the sectional. My wife was straddling him, facing him, and riding his cock. I was standing to one side as she took me in her mouth. While she was grinding him and sucking me, all of a sudden she must have found the spot that she really liked because she suddenly spit me out of her mouth. She suddenly spit me out of her mouth, leaned forward and grabbed the frame of the sectional and started grinding him faster and harder.
I stepped back to watch and admire her rather athletic performance until I heard a tearing sound. Our single friend and my wife were oblivious to it as they were otherwise distracted. As they kept on faster and faster and harder and harder i heard more of the tearing sound i realized that she was gripping the sewn on leather cushion for more leverage and support as she ground him harder and harder at first i was a bit dismayed as i thought, holy crap, I'm going to have to buy this sectional sofa.
But those thoughts were instantly wiped away as I looked at her face, caught up in the pleasure of pure ecstasy. I watched the scene play out as I heard her moan, oh, so sensually. That is, until I heard the continued tearing of leather stitches being popped talk about being distracted yeah i ran my naked form around to the other side of the sectional with my erect penis flopping all over the place and put my hands next to hers i pulled the cushion in the opposite direction in an effort to save the sectional. This only gave her a stronger perch from which to push and pull.
As she and I had this crazy sexual tug of war with the cushion, my wife climaxed. She went through the throes of a fantastic orgasm and finally let go of the cushion. I, let go and fell to the floor laughing. It was a great night and the start of a very fun play dynamic for us. That's awesome. Yeah, I can just imagine that. He's spitting her, spitting him out of her mouth. Poor guy.
yeah okay so thank you guys i i'll thank you right now for providing us the email for the content and also for the snapshot yeah those are both fantastic yep okay well my snapshot actually is a very different take on snapshots this is kind of a unique experience for us So about, I't know a month and a half ago we had friends stop into town and we talked about this on our last episode they were traveling through town yeah they were traveling through town and this was a couple that we met for dinner on Wednesday and we ended up not playing with them Wednesday because it was too late and she forgot her swinger bag and we had to get up for work.
So they came back on Friday and we played Friday night. So this is a message from them and it has to do with our night with them. So she says, thought it would be fun to turn the tables on you and have a snapshot of you instead of from you. Please check the quote at the end with Mrs. Jones. She can edit if she remembers. So here we go. It says, never say never, keeping up with the Joneses. If the lifestyle has taught me one thing, it is never say never. Recently, my man and I had the opportunity to keep up with the Joneses. It was a fabulous experience.
And over the course of the night, the four of us discussed many things, including a few of the more intimate details of their single guy experiences. I'd love to talk about my single guy experience. So the lady goes on to say, I love couple play. So the idea of a single man has never been my thing, but their story intrigued me. My snapshot happened at the very end of the evening After a great deal of play and multiple orgasms for all, I stood up from the bed to get water. Mr. Jones had seriously dehydrated me. Good job, honey. Standing there, the view of the bed is one I will not forget.
Both my man and Mr. J were flat on their backs, fading in and out of consciousness. Smack dab in the middle of them lay Mrs. Jones. Her eyes were closed, her hair was perfectly messed, and her grin was completely sassy. Each arm was stretched, allowing her hands to cup the two very well-used penises on either side of her. She was the picture of properly fucked. As I took in the scene, she lazily opened her eyes. See, one for each hand. Are you sure a single guy is out of the question? Again, if the lifestyle has taught me one thing, it is never say never.
See, somewhere out there, there's a single guy that's thanking you for that i know i know so never say never never say never that's right i think i think she got she got you quoted exactly right yeah i'm pretty sure that that's very much spot on yeah so that's the first time we've had a couple send a snapshot in of us that involved us yeah that's pretty cool yeah i know yeah so yeah never say never yeah okay my turn okay so my snapshot involves the couple that we talked about earlier we went out of town and we stayed in the hotel all afternoon and played and then we went out to dinner so mrs jones and her in our properly packed swinger bag had brought her purple double-sided dildo.
Yes. And I believe the two of you had used this once before. Yes. But she admittedly is really, she's more straight than she is bi. Right. And it's not her favorite thing to do, but she enjoys doing it.
And we play around together, but we really don't get too involved with each other she's pretty much straight yes so anyway we get in the middle of playing and i think maybe it was her husband that suggested that we move to the toy the toy yeah we had played for a while and then we took a break remember we had brought like cheese and crackers and chocolate and i think we all just got up in the middle of play and we're like let's have a snack yeah let's re-energize so i think we took like a half an hour break and yes and got out the cheese and crackers and salami and chocolate and yeah we made ourselves some more vodka tonics and i think somebody threw that purple thing on the bed to get things re got reignited oh i had that and remember i brought my um i have like a hitachi vibrator but it's rechargeable it's not electric that plugs into the wall and i had forgotten to charge it after we went on our cruise and it had been right i think maybe well used during that week yeah so you got out the double-sided dildo and you two started and you were like in a, like a scissor position.
Yes. And you started going at each other and it got pretty hot and heavy to the point where both of you were not only about to have an orgasm, but you were, you had, you had grabbed each other's four. Oh no. oh no right we i had like grabbed a hold of one of her thighs and she grabbed my thigh yeah and we were using that for leverage you were yeah you were pulling each other's thighs as leverage and you were pounding each other pretty hard and it was hot and i think he and i were just standing there with our jaws on the floor we didn't know what do.
And then all of a sudden you looked at her and you said, I like it when a girl fights back. And I was like, I had my hands up over my, and I'm going, yes, that's my wife. She runs half marathons while she's hung over. And she says, I when a girl fights back and you two had an awesome orgasm that thing that was crazy that was crazy i yeah and as soon as we as soon as we got in the car to come home i said i claimed that as my snapshot i claimed it early and i knew there wasn't going to be anything else to top that one so that was so hot.
And then when we got back, remember, like a week later, she sent us a text and she had she sent us a picture of the purple. Yeah, look what came in the mail today. She said, look what came in the mail today. I got one of my own. The exact same one. And I need somebody to help me break it in. I mean, we were going at it. I was kind of like my pelvic bone was sore for days after that because we were really, yeah, we were kind of fighting each other. It was hot. Yeah. Whew. Yeah. That was a good one. It was a good one. See if you can top that one. So my snapshot just has to do with you, Mr.
Jones. Oh. Yes. Yeah, you haven't told me what your snapshot is. Yeah, you smoke me some ribs all day and all kinds of good stuff happens. Mm-hmm. shot just has to do with you, Mr. Jones. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. You haven't told me what your snapshot is. Yeah. You smoke me some ribs all day and, and yeah, all kinds of good stuff happens. So it was the day that you made us ribs for dinner and we kind of just had that whole day build up. And, um, that night we just had a really, really good time.
And I remember we, we laid down on the bed and we were kind of like, opposite each other like my feet were up near your head and and like I was like leaning on my elbow like next to your knees and I just I just kind of started playing with you and I think you still had your underwear on and I just remember I just kind of started teasing you and playing with you and I didn't really have any kind of see this is my deal this is why I don't like to like fantasize about what's going to happen that night because then it never you know happens the way I plan it because I hadn't planned this at all but I just started playing with you and then I started giving you a blow job and then I got out that the reason I brought up the vibrator is because the vibrator was half dead when we were having our afternoon delight with our friends and then i still forgot to charge it and i tried to use that vibrator on you that night and i got you really really fired up and turned on do you remember yes and it died yeah i do i mean i've thrown vibrators across the floor before.
But then you grab another one. When they die. You grab another one. You finally know, you feel my pain now. So yes, I recovered quickly. Oh, you had it right down beneath my balls. I did, I did. I was giving you a little like prostate stimulation from the outside. So luckily, I knew where my spare was. And it was luckily in the nightstand. So I grabbed it and I kept playing with you. That's in that container that says an emergency break glass. That's right. It was an emergency. That special drawer of my nightstand. Yeah. Yes. So anyway, I was just having so much fun playing with you.
I don't think you had really even touched me yet. It was just me. I couldn't. My hands were paralyzed. Oh oh and his eyes were rolled completely back in his head it was crazy but i do remember at one point i had you in my mouth and i looked up at you and i was i was kind of grinning at you with your cock in my mouth and we just really connected at that moment it was just one of those looks and it lasted it felt like it lasted for, you know, 15 minutes. It probably was, I don't know, five seconds or whatever, but it was just that look.
And then after we finished playing, I remember you saying to me, you looked at me like you had somebody else's, like I was somebody else and you had somebody else's cock in your mouth I think I said I said usually when I see that look you've got somebody else's dick in your mouth yes but you saved it for me this time I know I had that little evil grin on my face you did yes that's right that's a good snapshot but it was um that was I needed that oh good well I'm happy to obl to oblige. That was just one of those magical connections that just stays with you. That's where snapshots came from.
I have those magical moments filed away in my brain. And up to two years ago, my snapshots were always you. So now I have a wider variety of snapshots. But that where they came from i get that kind of stuff i'm glad i was your snapshot yeah isn't that special it is you're a pretty special guy sometimes thank you dear all right well let's wrap this up phew are we at the end we're at the end yeah so what do we have coming up? We have... In two weeks. We're getting on an airplane. Yes. Yes. We can't wait.
So we're going out to dinner with our friends tomorrow night and not playing with them again because it's a work night. But they go to Temptation quite often. So they're going to give us a skinny on it. Yes. We're looking forward to that. We're going to get all of our little pointers so we know what to pack. And we had some of our listeners email us and say they were going to be in Temptation at the same time. I know. I can't wait to meet them. And they said some other people from Cassidy were going to be there as well. Yeah.
So we didn't know what kind of a swinger ratio there was going to be there. We didn't think there would be very many swingers, but it sounds like we're going to be able to connect with some people. Yes. So, Nadia in New Orleans, that's coming up July 6th through 10th. And we've got 11 couples confirmed to come to our meet and greet. So, I have sent out emails to everyone that I'm aware of that RSVP'd that you were going to attend. And that email contained the details and the place that we were meeting. So we still have plenty of room.
And if you did not receive an email from me, then I either didn't get it or I've lost it.
So if you're within the sound my voice and it's before July 6th of 2016 we would love to have you I can tell you that the meet and greet is going to be on Wednesday afternoon July 6th from 5 until 6 30 so if you'll email us at mrjones m-r-j-o-n-e-s at wegotathing.com and let us know that you want to attend and i will send you back the place of the meet and greet and next year for naughty new orleans this is going to be so much easier because of your new improved website you will be able to sign up on my website you'll just be able to rsvp and it's going to be easy capizy yeah so i've been it's possible that you rsvp'd and i didn't you know because i'm trying to manage cassidy emails and regular emails and twitter direct messages and you know everything else so hopefully um you you know where it is and if you don't it's not too late we still have room please join us so if you thought you rsvp'd and mr jones didn't send you the email it's not that we don't want you to be there.
It's just that, you know, we're having a, like organizational issues. So we've got 11 couples. So that's 22 with us. That's 24 people. So we have a good size group already, but you know, the good thing about it is the people that you meet at our meet and greet you'll see throughout the week. Oh, and let me mention one, one other thing. Uh, this naughty in new Orleans for us is about meeting you. So there are several couples that are not Thank you. So there are several couples that are not coming until Thursday. Oh, right. Yeah. And, and we want to meet everybody at the meet and greet.
So if we don't have time to really get to know you at the meet and greet, or if you're not coming until Thursday, please, um, find us, you know, during the week, send us an email. We'll exchange pictures if you're going to be there. You know, we, or, oh, you know what I'm going to do? I take that back. I'm going to have a hashtag and Twitter. So those of you who follow us on Twitter, I'll be announcing where we are, but we're going to be at all of the hotel or the bar takeovers and the dances. So please find us and spend some time.
We really want to get to know you if you're our listener and you're coming to Naughty in New Orleans. So, um, then of course we have Desire Pearl coming up in August 13th through the 21st. Three months. Three more months until that. And we have some good news on iTunes, Mrs. Jones. We got seven reviews this month. Seven. Yeah. That's a good number. That sure is. So thank you very much to all of seven of you. And they've all been very, very generous in your appreciation for our podcast. So thank you for that. I mean, we, we try really hard to make this a valuable tool for you.
We try to make it entertaining, but at the same time, we want it to be a valuable tool for you and your partner as you tiptoe your way into this craziness. And keep this in mind. A couple of listeners have mentioned this. You may share an iTunes account with your children, and maybe you don't want to leave a review. When you go into your account, in your iTunes account, you can set a nickname so that your nickname shows when you do the review instead of your username. So you might have to do that first. Apple doesn't make it too easy to do this. No, they don't.
But I just wanted to let you know that. And we're also going to be posting some of these, the select few of our reviews on our new website. So if you don't want to put one on iTunes, but you want to send us one in the email, we're going to put a few directly on our website. So that's about it. All right. Episode 22 in the books. It is. Yeah. And so anyway, I have mentioned, oh, and Mrs.
Jones jones has gotten a few emails i have and i think i've responded to all of them but one i am not as good as mr jones and it's not that i don't care it's just i am not organized to sit down and take the time to do it i'm always like oh my gosh i didn't reply to that email so i to them. I'm getting to them. So please forgive me, but I will not ignore you. So Mrs. Jones' email is mrsjones at wegotathing.com. If you want to send an email to the both of us or to me, again, that's mrjones, m-r-j-o-n-e-s at wegotathing.com.
Our website website is wegotathing.com you can follow us on Twitter at wegotathing and we are on Cassidy I'm not going to really promote a lot of the Cassidy community thing because we're going to really build our own community when we have our website but we still do recommend Cassidy as a dating site and we'll be back next month with maybe very maybe a special guest i'm hoping so i'm we've right now we have a special guest plan so hopefully that'll pan out yeah so you're gonna have to come back next month in june that's right and find out who that is summertime's here mr jones i know this is going to be one of mrs jones's favorite podcast i think yes definitely So until then, thanks for listening.
We are Mr. and Mrs. Jones. I know this is going to be one of Mrs. Jones's favorite podcasts I think. Yes definitely. So until then thanks for listening we are Mr. and Mrs. Jones and we've got a thing. What's your thing? I'll see you next time.
