Keeping up with the JonesesA vanilla race weekend, a hot quickie with good friends before vacation, sexy fun with the Sapphic Swingers, a trip to Trapeze Club in Fort Lauderdale and a weekend double-header. Discussion topic We talk about how our "vanilla cruise" helped us to redefine the lifestyle as a way of living a sexy life full of fun and not just swinging (although that's fun too)! Snapshots Mrs Jones dancing with a bunch of sexy guys and Mr Jones at a nude beach with three HOT chicks! Mentioned in this episode The Sapphic Swingers- with Rachel and Tiffany Trapeze Club- Fort Lauderdale Contact us Email- [email protected][email protected] Website- wegottathing.com Twitter- @wegottathing Music licensed by BMI Me & Mrs Jones- Billy Paul
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This podcast contains explicit language and content and is for mature audiences only. Hey you teenagers out there, if you're under 18, this show is more for your parents. So now that you have that mental picture stuck in your head, put some music on and get back to doing your homework. We are a long-time married couple who's decided to chronicle our personal adventures and share our sex-positive discussions as we navigate our way through the swinging lifestyle. Care to join us? Hello, everyone. I'm Mr. Jones.
And I'm mrs jones and we want to welcome you to episode 21 of the we got a thing podcast we are podcasting on monday night this month why are we podcasting on monday night because we had friends bump our podcast no you said you told everybody we had a. Yeah, I know, but we had planned a podcast until something better came along. Oh, right. Yeah. Poor podcast. It got just immediately shuffled to the side. Yes. Yeah, but we planned far enough ahead, so it'll still get out in time. That's right. We just had to like rearrange a little bit. Yeah.
So Martini Monday is now monday yes yeah and i'm not sure what that thing is that you tried it's an aperol spritzer we had it on the ship no i don't it didn't taste like that on the ship oh well i your taste buds are off then tonight well i switched back to bourbon it's tasty it's, episode 21, living the lifestyle. Uh, we're going to talk tonight in our main segment about, um, how we define the lifestyle. Yeah. We kind of really had a revelation when we went on our vanilla cruiser and that's really what we're going to focus on tonight.
You know, how we perceive ourselves and how we kind of perceive the lifestyle in general. So stay tuned for that. Stay tuned. So how about keeping up with the Joneses? A couple of things, a couple of technical things right off the bat before we get into the fun stuff. I mentioned before that we were looking to build a new website and it looks like we are well on our way to planning that out. I'm not going to really go into many details tonight. We're really excited about it, and we probably will release it sometimes this summer. So we have a plan to do that.
But the big news is that we've gone ahead and changed an email address to our We Got A Thing domain. So if you send our email to the old email address that we had, it'll still come through. But our email address now is MrJones, that's M-R-J-O-N-E-S, at WeGotAThing.com. And there's now a MrsJones at WeGotAThing.com.
Yeah, M-R-S-J-O-N-e-s at wegotathing.com so mrs jones thinks she's ready to start answering some email well i've always helped you answer emails but i'm actually going to have to like type a little bit now you know you i've just dictated before and you've been my scribe yeah and this is quite a commitment for you because you really don't like getting into the email and stuff. Well, I love reading and I love participating in and, you know, coming up with the answers. But, you know, as far as like the day to day responsibility of it, you embrace that much more than I do.
I'm a little more fly by night and I think my schedule is a little bit less predictable than yours. So I don't really have that, that structure that you have where you have that dedicated time. So, but anyway, I do, um, a lot of the emails have been addressed to me specifically and, um, I want to make sure that, you know, I can give those the attention that they deserve. So anyway, if you have specific girly questions, I guess, um, you can direct those now, and I promise I will respond in a timely manner. Right.
So all the general emails and emails to me, that's mrjones at wegotathing.com, and if you have an email or a question specifically for Mrs. Jones, M-R-S-J-O-N-E-S, mrsjones at weGotAThing.com. That's right. So, okay, on with the fun stuff. So, we were on the verge of heading out for our first half marathon of the year, the last time we recorded, I think. Yes. So, we headed out, and we ran smack dab into the nastiest weather ever. It was terrible weather that weekend. It was nasty.
Yeah yeah even mr jones admits it was nasty yeah i mean the the fun of it is we had rented a big house and a lot of us uh friends were going to stay together this was completely vanilla um and we got down there and it was 20 mile an hour winds on race day it It was raining and the wind chill was 35 degrees. It was just nasty. Other than that, it was beautiful. Yeah. Oh, so, but in spite of all that, we ended up having a really good time. I think we started out with 16 people in the house. I think the house had like, I don't know, a dozen bedrooms or something.
It it was crazy it had an indoor pool um which was really handy since it was driving rain outside yeah so we um we did manage to make the best of it some people kind of came and went i mean i think most of us got there on friday night but a lot of people ended up leaving throughout the weekend either planned or unplanned yeah there was a lot of drama in that house. There was a ridiculous amount of drama. It should have been a reality show. I know. And it wasn't even like a lifestyle event. You kind of anticipate potential drama and lifestyle stuff.
Well, a lot of the people there, a lot of the people were of the same family. So we were on the outskirts.
We got got to witness some family dynamic and the drama combined with the bad weather sent a lot of people packing early which was good i mean we we ran the race and we had a good time and fortunately after the race um we got they had a big old beer tent and so we were able to go in there and warm up yeah and drink some beer in the morning but lots of lots of free beers yeah it was it was awesome but the fun night was um sunday night after the race yes because everybody was done running because there was races on saturday races on sunday depending on which event you signed up for but by sunday night everybody was done running and it was just time to party because nobody or well those diehards stayed and we all came home monday yeah and we drank the perfect pussy yes the shots yeah one of our friends brought ingredients to make a a perfect pussy and what was in it it was a it was red bull yeah um crown royal and vodka i think or was it yeah so anyway it was pretty tasty and i'm not a bourbon or whiskey girl and i thought no crown royal that's just not going to cut it but it was really good yeah the red bull softened it up so there were seven of us left by sunday night so we all did perfect pussies and we i know we did seven of them because we made the rounds everybody had to do a toast so we drank seven perfect pussies yeah then we were trying to come up and then we ran out of ingredients so i had brought stuff to make moscow mules so i had some vodka and somebody had brought some cranberry juice and I forget what else we had.
I don't know. Jägermeister. No, there wasn't any Jägermeister. I think there was like triple sack or something. I don't know. So we invented like a shot and since we were inventing it because we couldn't find a recipe with ingredients we had in the house, we tried to name it.
So somebody came up with the idea of going on you know these uh like facebook quizzes where you know you type in a bunch of answers and it tells you like your your perfect whatever name so there was we found one that you'd come up with your own porn name right but there were like 20 questions to answer so these are our very vanilla friends we're answering these 20 like sex questions as a collective group and it was really at first it was a little uncomfortable and then everybody was like ah what the hell and we had already had seven shots by then and at one point in time you were down on the floor you and another woman were acting out of sex position yeah we had on like jeans and boots and yeah we were fully clothed but yeah so i think it was the reverse cowboy position somehow we managed to act out well it was the what it was the guy on top though it was the guy it said it said you had to bend your penis in an awkward position and all the guys all the guys were like oh and the guys were like, ah.
And the girls were like, well, what would that look like? So my friend got down on the floor and then I straddled her. So I was on top. Like I was reverse cowgirl, but it was supposed to be the dude on top with his cock bent backwards. Yeah. Let's not talk about it. And all the guys were, the whole time they were like, it was so funny. So anyway, our, we invented this shot and it was called like Little Miss Spread'em was the name of the shot we made up because that was our perfect porn name. Right. So go figure. That was craziness. So there were 14 shots consumed by all. Yeah.
We had a good time. We did have a good time. so that made up for the bad weather that warmed us all up and let me just say mr jones i think you and i were the perkiest of the seven the next morning oh definitely i think the lifestyle has definitely increased our tolerance for alcohol yeah there were some there were some hurting people yeah there were some people spending time the bathroom the next morning. Lots of slow walking and, and, uh, you know, everybody was packing. We had to go home.
And so we rented this house and there were like certain rules that you have to follow to like get the house ready, you know, to leave. So you get your deposit back or whatever. So we're trying to get the house ready and everybody's like shuffling around. You would never know that these were all runners. It was so funny. Yeah. Well, we made it. We did. It was fun. And then before we went, I guess we, so we went on our cruise, but we bookended our cruise with an event prior to and just after the cruise.
So the night before we went on our cruise, we were flying out of an airport in Virginia, and we did the park and fly. So we had some friends of ours come meet us at a restaurant near the hotel. Yes. And we had a really cool place. Oh, that was one of the coolest restaurants. Yeah. Too bad it's so far away from home. Yeah. And these are friends that we've known for a long time. Yes. And very comfortable to be with. These are friends, Mr. Jones, that we have played with on our way out of town before. We have done this before with them.
Well, they live far away, and the airport is closer to their home. Right. So this way they don't have to come all the way down to see us. Right, right. So it's very convenient. And the husband, I think, actually works pretty close to the airport. So it's pretty convenient for them. Yeah. So, and it's very fun for us. But of course we stayed up till past midnight and we had to get up at... They left at 1230. Yeah. And we had to get up at 315. Yeah. Yeah, but you were pretty, you were not bad the next morning. No, I was excited. We were going on a cruise. Yeah.
So anyway, we enjoyed being with our friends. And they are always fun. Yeah. We, laughter, oh my gosh. We laugh so much with them because she is just a stitch. Yeah. And then we went on the cruise, but we're going to talk about that in segment two. We'll fill you in on all the details in the cruise. But then when we got back from the cruise, we stayed an extra night in Miami because we had been invited by Tiffany and Rachel. Tiffany and Rachel are a lesbian couple.
They're married and they have a podcast and they're called the sapphic swingers and that's s-a-p-p-h-i-c sapphic swingers if you want to check them out at any rate we met them at the george party back in february and they invited us to hollover beach in north miami which is a public beach but it's also a nude beach yeah i think there's just i think there's one area of it that you can be nude so they told us to go to a certain lifeguard station and we met them there and uh and it was pretty fun it was a beautiful day beautiful day there were a lot of people there and they brought all the supplies for us because they knew we had just gotten off of a cruise ship So they brought adult beverages and a blanket to sit on.
And so they and then they. because they knew we had just gotten off of a cruise ship. So they brought adult beverages and a blanket to sit on. And so they, and then they, after we hung out there for what, a couple hours maybe, they took us back to their house so we could shower and get ready. And they took us to a trapeze. Yeah. And we've been wanting to go to Trapeze Fort Lauderdale for a long time. Yep.
And it was good to go with them because that that's their home club they live super close and i know everybody there yeah so it was so much fun to go with them because they were able to show us the ropes and uh yeah and we ate dinner with them the dinner was really tasty i didn't expect it to be you know good so this is really it was really good this is really only our second experience at a club. Right. So we didn't get there until it was after nine o'clock, maybe nine, nine 30. And then we had to, we had to, um, join, register and join. And that took a few minutes to get in.
And then once we got in, Tiffany and Rachel introduced us around to a lot of people. And that took some time. And then we went to the buffet and it exceeded my expectations. Definitely. The food was really good. So the four of us had dinner together and then the dancing started. The music was awesome at Trapeze. So you and I were just like having so much fun dancing.
Yeah we really had not even we had we had walked to the room a couple times and there were maybe one or two couples that we had an eye on yeah to try to approach when the time was right but all of a sudden people started leaving the dance floor and going to the back yeah and getting towels so you had to go to the locker room and you had to change and you had to get a towel and then you had to go to the back part of the club and so we've we we went ahead and did that with everybody else we went in the back but we hadn't met anybody right so the two of us ended up playing together on in one of the play beds which was nice well i was gonna say uh you hesitated there mr jones i had a good time yeah no i mean there was a lot of people around us having sex yes and we no we didn't play with anybody no we didn't even have it we didn't meet anybody no because it it was by the time we finished eating dinner the music had already started and it was really loud yeah and it was really hard to have conversations and and you and I kind of tried to strategically move around the dance floor to get close to a couple of the couples that we were interested in but it was just the dance floor was crowded and it just never really like the opportunity never presented itself yeah where we could actually strike up a like a real conversation with somebody and the club is not set up where you can really go up and talk to people because the music's so loud and it's really small on the dance floor so it's really not conducive for even up where the tables and and like the sofas and stuff where it got really crowded and it was hard to move around yeah so yeah i don't know i we just didn't know that the routine and the timing right you know i think that's something that we would have to try again now that we kind of understand the pacing of everything yeah so we walked around the back we ended up you and i played together for a while and you know what else we missed the boat on people were socializing in the back i thought when you went back to the play area it would be like game on yeah it's time to play.
But they actually had a bar back there, and you could have your bottle transferred back there, which you and I didn't do. And we could have been a little bit more social back there, but you're standing around in your towel, and since we've never done that before, I don't know, it just didn't feel natural or comfortable just because it was the first time we had done that.
Yeah, I think we assumed that if you got your towel and go to the back room you're serious you're you're ready to play but after we played we realized we came back out front that people were just hanging out at the bar with towels wrapped around themselves socializing and that would have been a better place to meet somebody but like you said just standing around with the white towel on is a little bit different for us. Well, it's unusual for us. You know, the people that go there all the time, you know, obviously it was no big deal. They all seemed extremely comfortable.
Well, one thing about it, when you consummate the deal, you just turn around. That's right. You're ready to go. You're ready to go. I know. Yeah. But the club itself was really nice. I mean, I thought the play areas were laid out well. It appeared to be very clean. Well, my second favorite part of it was when we left there and we were going to leave, and then we realized that the buffet had switched over to breakfast. And you said, do you want to get something to eat? And I said, I'm not hungry. And then we walked by the buffet and I saw the guy. Oh, you could smell the bacon.
The bacon, and the guy was making omelets and it was only one o'clock in the morning, but I thought, hmm, this smells really good. Let's sit down and have breakfast. I think it was like 1.30 because I think the Uber driver picked us up at two. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, they had an omelet chef. I mean, fresh made to order omelets. That was really, really nice. So it was, it was a really nice club and Tiff and Rachel, thank you very much. It was so great to be hosted there and to be introduced to a lot of people. And they are two beautiful, smart, sexy, funny, funny ladies. They are. Yes. Yeah.
We had a great time and they're excellent hostesses. So thank you so much ladies. Yes.
If you ever get a chance and you're in Fort Lauderdale we recommend and check out their podcast they have a really cool podcast so it's sapphic swingers yep and we'll we'll uh put that in our show notes for you guys yes we will so then we thought that we thought the most interesting part of the evening was over and then we called our uber guy so we had to go from fort lauderdale to miami so our hotel was in miami so it was about a 25 minute car car ride oh no it was like 35 minutes because we were miami beach so we had to go all the way across there's no traffic i mean no there wasn't but it's still a far piece so we called an uber and the guy picked us up and we got in the car and started out and he said you I've picked up one other couple from this club before, and they really wouldn't say a lot about what it is, and he just kind of ended the sentence there, and I didn't say anything.
So he said, what kind of club is it? Yeah, he said, what kind of club is it? I said, it's a lifestyle club, period, and it was kind of silent, and he said, oh, so that's it, huh? I said, well, what do you want to know? And he asked a couple more questions, and I said, it's a swinger club, and he kind of cocked his head, and I said, okay, this is my wife, you know, we went in, we had dinner, we joined the club, and if we want, when we had sex in the back, I mean, you can have sex in there, and you can have sex with each other,ing sex with other people.
And they have food and there's dancing and it's just a regular club. And his eyes got real wide. And then he said, well, you know, I've really been interested in that because I listened to a couple of podcasts. We were like, oh my gosh, what are the odds?
But he didn't listen to our podcast i think he just looked listened to like um they weren't uh swinger podcasts yeah they were like sexual relationship yeah sex positive podcasts yeah so we said well we have a podcast and so he says excuse me i'm i know i'm driving but i want to look up your podcast and he looked it up right there and subscribed to it while we were in the car. And then the questions just started flowing. He asked question after question all the way to our hotel. It was the shortest drive from Fort Lauderdale to Miami. I know.
Because he was just so infatuated and so interested. And if we hadn't opened the car door, I think he would have just like put the car in park and just turned it off in front of the hotel and just talked to us all night. Yeah. He was something. And then we got home, and a couple days later, we got an email, and the subject line was, you're a Miami Uber driver. So he had already listened to a bunch of our podcasts. He was such a nice guy. I mean, he was asking really smart, good questions. Yeah.
I mean, he and his girlfriend were interested in it so it was really interesting you just never know i know uh so that that really put a so hello uber driver yeah thanks for an awesome ride home yeah yeah shout out to you mr uber driver that was a lot of fun and hopefully when we're down there next year we'll see you i know we'll have to try to request you yeah so then the next day we flew we flew home and we had a two o'clock flight from Miami back to D.C. And I had procrastinated because I was supposed to have already bought our airfare to not in New Orleans, but I hadn't yet done it.
And so we were standing, we were getting ready to board and they came on the announcement and the gate agent said agent said our flight is overbooked we're looking for five people and we're offering three hundred vouchers and and we looked at each other and and 300 300 and i looked up at the counter nobody was moving and i said no let's not move yet and you said well if this goes to 500 we're gonna grab those vouchers. So sure enough, nobody bit. They came back on and they said, we're still looking for five people. And now we're offering $500 vouchers. Well, you and I dropped our stuff.
Well, but the reason I agreed to it is because we had to work the next day. And the reason I agreed to it is because they had an eight o'clock flight that they were guaranteeing us assigned seats on. So it wasn't a standby thing. It was six hours. Yeah. So we were like a thousand dollars for six hours. Uh, yeah. Let's text the family and say we were not going to be home until midnight. And, and it was also a $25 dinner voucher. Yep.
So we just couldn't pass pass it up so we got our vouchers and we went and found a bar and uh we drank and ate for six hours to extend our vacation now we didn't get home till 1 30 in the morning and i had to get up at 4 30 to go to work yeah that was a little painful but the next day the very next day we booked our naughty new orleans tickets for free yep more than free we still have some money left on those vouchers how about that yep and we got to fly out if if you guys remember our naughty new orleans episode from last summer mr jones last summer booked the 7 30 a.m flight home yeah on sunday morning after naughty new orleans because it was like a couple hundred dollars cheaper so now since we had the vouchers we have like a 12 30 12 30 flight which will be much more we'll be able to sleep in yes much more palatable yeah so we are all set for naughty new orleans and we'll talk about that in a minute and um so the last couple things as we this past weekend we had a double header weekend yeah almost a triple header weekend well because we we had some friends that we hadn't met online we've never never met them face to face but we had been corresponding with them and they were they had been on an extended vacation and they were traveling home up the east coast through dc and they And they said, hey, we're going to be near you guys this second week of April or whatever.
Would you guys be available to meet for dinner? And we were like, sure. So we met them this past Wednesday night for dinner. Yeah. And we had a great time. Yep. Yep. So we had so much fun at dinner. We invited them back to our house for a nightcap. Yeah. But it was a Wednesday night. Yeah. And she forgot her swinger bag. Yeah. And the wife didn't bring the swinger bag. I don't know if she forgot it or if she intentionally left it. But I think they... Well, they happen to listen to our podcast.
do and they know that we don't often play on the first date and they also knew it was a wednesday night and that you commute into town and get up really early they also should know never ever leave home without the swing lesson learned right yeah yeah so anyway they came back friday night for. Yes. And we started over with more time on the clock. Yeah. Yeah, we had an enjoyable evening with them. A very enjoyable evening. That was some hot times. Gave our swinger pad downstairs another workout. And by the way, the bed is seaworthy. The bed is extremely seaworthy, yes.
It held together just fine. Yep. So thanks to you guys for a couple of nights. We really enjoyed meeting them. And do you know where they are right now? Yeah, they're at Desire. So we saw them on Wednesday night. We saw them again on Friday night. And this is Monday, of course. And they have just arrived at Desire. And such good friends they are. They have the nerve to email us a picture of their room. Yeah, thinking of us. Yeah. Well, yeah, so they're thinking of us, which is very sweet and sexy and hot. And yeah, we wish we were there, obviously. Yeah. Yeah, we had a good time.
As a matter of fact, that evening, if you all play, whoever is at home playing the We Got a Thing Go game, Mr. Jones came twice and said, please be sure to give yourself an extra square. Not that anybody's keeping score. Well, you know, you never know. That's how good the night was. It was a very good night. Fun was had by all. Yeah. That is for sure. That was the day-night doubleheader. That was the day. Then the next night, we had already had plans with some friends that we've met a while back that have been here a few times. And they came down, and we had a good time with them.
And they brought fresh oysters on the half shell. Oh, yeah, yeah. And they brought you a bottle of 43. Yes. They know the way that my heart ends here. That's right. And some chocolate-covered strawberries. Oh, my gosh. They were wooing us. Yeah. It was very fun. Yeah. So we really haven't even reconnected because that was Friday night and Saturday night. And then last night, we had a family obligation. Yeah. So this podcast is our, this is what you get. We're reconnecting with headphones on. Yeah. So sexy. Yeah.
So that's keeping up with the joneses we had a lot going on again this month and we're looking forward to a lot more as as it's warming up you know it is in the dc area it was like 80 degrees today so gorgeous i mean you can probably tell them a little bit got a little bit of pollen going on in here in northern virginia right now so mr jones washed my car yesterday i went to work i walked out after work my car is green yeah we get this nasty green pollen here in virginia and it is just it literally turns your car green you have to like turn the windshield wipers on to like dust all the pollen off it's so gross nasty so anyway when we come back uh segment two we're going to talk about living the lifestyle and help you define the lifestyle, maybe redefine the lifestyle a bit.
Yes. We'll be right back. Stay tuned. Okay, well, welcome back to segment two of the podcast tonight. The title this month again is living the lifestyle. And that was kind of our attempt at being catchy as to how to define the lifestyle. And, and I think what we have really had figured out on the cruise is that the finding the lifestyle is different for everybody. It depends on what you want to get out of it. And, you know, at first we thought when we started swinging that we wanted sex and, you know, we wanted sexy adventures with other couples and, and we still want that. Yeah.
I was going to say, where are you going with this? This is not authorized. We still want sex. I've hijacked the podcast. No, I mean, we still want sexy, fun times with people. But what we're learning is that our outlook on the way we approach every situation is different now. Yes, okay.
And we can look at with like fresh eyes and and have a fun sexy time you and i can have a fun sexy time in any setting just like we had the funnest craziest sexy time with all of our vanilla friends that race weekend you know nothing inappropriate happened might a little bit a little bit inappropriate conversation and that whole reverse cowboy thing probably shouldn't have been filmed but but i mean it was all in good clean fun but but i think we're just a little bit more adventurous now and maybe we're we instigate things a little more than we used to yeah i mean we joked a lot about before we went on this cruise that our objective was to flip vanillas.
And we certainly had a golden opportunity. Oh, we had a couple on our radar, that's for sure. To do that. At any rate, what we're going to do is we're going to break this down, this segment. We're going to talk about the cruise in general, just some logistics about the cruise and the ship and how we enjoyed it. Then we're going to talk a little bit about the people that we met. And then, you know, back to what Mrs. Jones was referring to, the lifestyle, you know, isn't something that you do. It's a state of mind.
And what I love about when you and I go on vacations is that we just allow each vacation to unfold in front of us. And normally, if it's a one-week vacation, about two or three days in in we realize the vacation's taking on its own personality and then we go with it yeah yeah so let's talk about the cruise so we had as i mentioned before we had to get up at 3 30 in the morning we had 3 15 we had no 3 50 we had no travel issues yeah yeah that's the hotel shuttle got to the airport. Got our seats assigned. Yeah, we were actually able to check our luggage outside the airport.
We didn't even have to schlep it in and stand in those stupid long lines. Left on time, got to Miami early. We had a good cruise. We did. It was a nice ship. Same ship we went on last year. It was the same one as last year. And a little preview here. We booked it again for next spring break. We did.
So if you guys like to plan ahead and you want to go on a cruise let us know yep let us know we'll give you the details yeah so poor mr jones so a lot of the cruise lines are becoming less and less formal just because people aren't i guess wanting to dress up on vacation anymore and traditionally a a one week cruise would have two formal nights. Well, celebrity cruise lines has changed formal nights to like evening chic. And I think the men are just supposed to wear like dinner jackets and, you know, not, not anything super formal. So a lot of men had on suits.
Um, there were a few men in tuxedos and Mr. Jones just happened to be one of those men because he was out of town the whole week before he went on the cruise and I had to do all of his packing, all of it. So the tuxedo just found its way into the suitcase. Yeah, I was duped. You were totally duped. But I brought a long gown and we did some formal pictures and we actually bought it. Yeah, they turned out nice.
They turned you look very nice in a tuxedo oh thank you dear so the second formal night i let him go sans bow tie right yes so you were you were still suave in your tuxedo with your open collar it looked actually pretty sexy yeah well thank you yeah we did look good yeah we cleaned up good. And we went to a few of the specialty restaurants. We went to Grand, we went to Cozumel. We went to a resort for a day in Cozumel. Yeah, like a beach club. It cost like three bucks to get in. We went to Grand Cayman. And then we spent the last day, we went to... Jamaica. Jamaica.
Oh, it's a beautiful day in Jamaica. We went to a resort there and we'll talk more about that when we talk about the people that we met and we had never been to Jamaica before. No, it was beautiful. We were laying there. We were laying at the resort and you said, we had been there 10 minutes. He said, I think I smell pot. And then, and I realized it's been quite a number of years since I've smelled that smell. But instantly it comes right back to you. And I said, yeah, that's exactly what that is. We're in Jamaica, Mon. Yeah. So then the last day we went to the Bahamas. And Mrs.
Jones, every time we go to an East Coast beach. We have to put a picture of this beach on our website. It was so amazingly beautiful. Yeah, but you complain. Because I don't like getting in the water because there's all kinds of critters in there and I can't see my feet. Like when we go to Myrtle Beach, I never get in the water. So she never gets in the water because she can't see her feet. That's her whole premise for not getting in the water, her whole excuse.
I don't want anything nibbling on my toes so here we are in the bahamas and you could literally walk out a quarter of a mile oh yeah and the water's still just up to your knees i mean like we're not exaggerating it was crazy the bottom so we're we're with another couple we're at least i don't know 600 yards out and all of a sudden the two ladies turned around and started running back towards us because they were rays in the water and they were coming towards you and there wasn't anything that you can do like i could outrun a stingray i said see see that's why it's best not to just not be able to see what's down there because you could see them coming 50 60 yards away oh and you all were just paralyzed after that because the sand was perfectly white and the water was only like knee deep so the the water was this crazy light aqua blue and these weren't stingrays i think they were called manta rays they're a little bit smaller than a stingray and they're black so you could totally see them coming because they were floating on top of this incredibly white sand and perfectly clear water had nothing they didn't they didn't want to get in your business at all hey we're just there feeding i didn't need to find that out up close and personal that's funny i probably peed my pants a little it's a good thing we were in the water i was so scared it was ridiculous anyway we had a total fool out of myself we had great weather we the ship was nice we had a great cruise and that pretty much summarizes the cruise part of it now back to flipping vanillas so so our very first day there yes we're at what became one of our favorite places on the ship and That's the sunset bar it's on the 15th deck the very very back of the ship right and so at sail away every evening and starting with the first evening we were up at the sunset bar and sailing out of miami is a beautiful sight yeah we had strategically chosen a table for four but there were only two of us and we you and i were scoping around for couples already we were on the prowl yeah and then the pickets were a little bit slim at first yeah yeah so explain how you made eye contact with this couple so they were our table for four was um they were like wicker chairs and like a low table it It wasn't a high top or anything.
So we were kind of sitting down. And there was this gentleman with his back to me standing at the bar. The bar was kind of like a round bar in the middle of the whole like back area. And he was standing there waiting for a drink. And this lovely lady walked up behind him. And at first.
You mean sexy, hot lovely lady tall tan blonde gorgeous so she walks up behind him but she starts talking to this guy next to her who was a really heavy set guy with like i don't know if he probably like a mullet i don't know he seemed just like a a really good old boy so you were disappointed yeah so i yeah i was i was like oh darn it you know because she's so beautiful but then she put her hand on the back of the guy in front of her waiting at the bar who was her partner and he was. So I was like, score.
So they got their drinks and they walked to the very, to the rail on the back because the boat was actually moving at this point. And we were just really literally pulling out of port. So they watched that for a while. And then they got somebody to take a picture of them. And then they started looking around for a place to sit down. and I had been watching them, you know, just because I like the people watch and as soon as they started looking for a place to sit down, she made eye contact with me and I kind of waved and I waved them over and said, would you guys like to share a table with us?
You did? I did. You don't remember all that? No, I thought he came over and said, this looks like a nice couple right here. May we join you? Oh, well, I think he said that after I got her attention. Oh, okay. So. Good for you. Yeah. Yeah. So we won't get too specific, but she was an Olympian caliber athlete. Yes. And they were from Canada. And they were from Canada. Yep. So very attractive, very fit. Anyway, we were like, we haven't even left Miami yet. I know. And they sat right down in front of us. We had not even passed Miami Beach yet. We were still in the channel. So it was good timing.
Yeah. I mean, we, and we spent a lot of time with them that week. And we talked about a lot of things. We may even have talked about Desire. Did we talk about Desire the first night? No, it was probably a couple days in. Okay. Yeah. Thank you.
that week and we talked about a lot of things we may even have talked about desire did we talk about desire the first night no it was probably a couple days in okay yeah but they kept coming back yep we kept meeting them at the bar every night and then by the end of the week we kind of ended up spending the whole well in the bahamas we spent the whole day with them and then we had dinner together the very last night yeah yeah and we ended up telling them i think you told them Did you tell them we were swingers i did yeah yeah because we kept talking about desire and they were very intriguing they asked lots and lots of questions and one of our first conversations about desire she said well isn't that a place where swingers go and i said yeah there's some swingers there i said you know on a any given week it's roughly 50 50.
I said, it just kind of depends on the crowd. I said, but the thing is, is you can do whatever you want to do and nobody's going to judge you or pressure you. And she was like, okay. And then it came up again by the end of the week. And I said, I got nothing to lose. No, because we kept dropping more. We kept getting more and more explicit as the week went on. Oh, I know what it was. She said that she had some friends that went to these mansion parties. Oh, right. That they were swingers and they went to these mansion parties. And we said we'd been to a few of those. Yeah.
And then she said something about swinging. And I said, well, yeah, we've dabbabbled in that as well and it didn't really they didn't really bite and run with that very much i mean they weren't opposed to it and i think we talked about a little bit but then it just kind of we changed the subject and it was fine yeah yeah so anyway we we met them and we met we met a whole lot of people and it as it turned out, every night that we were at the bar, it just seemed like we would meet people and people would come up to us.
And I started to think, you know, what is it about, how different are we now that people keep coming up to us? Because we're the same people that we were last year and the year before, but something different and well i think what's different is that we we're more open and we're looking at people more we're making eye contact with people who are smiling at people more instead of just kind of keeping to ourselves yeah you know and i think that just initiates conversation yeah so we met oh not only so tiff so we talked about tiff and Rachel. They're a lesbian couple. Right.
But we also met two gay couples on the ship. Right. Well, the very first day, as soon as we got on the ship, we were invited to a lunch because we've sailed with Royal Caribbean for years and their own, or celebrities owned by Royal Caribbean. So all these like little like captain's club points transfer. So we have like a captain's club membership and they invited, uh, people to lunch in the dining room if you were captain's club members and, and they just kind of seat you as you come in. There's no like pre-assigned seating or whatever. So Mr.
Jones and I sat down at a table for six, just the two of us. And then the next couple that came in was, um, a couple of guys from Brazil and they were a couple and they spoke very good English. So we were able to have a really awesome conversation with them. Yeah. And they, I mean, they were gorgeous and they were, they were smart. They were both, um, I think they were investment bankers and they spent a lot of time in Miami. So they, uh, were really neat to talk to. I mean, to make a long story short, we met couples from Ohio. We met a couple from Quebec. Uh, we met a couple from Colorado.
We met another couple from Fort Lauderdale who claimed he was British royalty. I think it was Italian royalty, darling. Whatever. He had this jacket on with some sort of a crest on the side of it.
Our Canadian friend, our Canadian lady that we hung out with all week, she walked up to this guy, and it was one of the formal nights he had a white dinner jacket on he he looked smashing actually so but he had this uh like medallion pinned on his lapel and she walked up to him and she flipped it with a finger and she said what does this mean and he tried to talk about how he was minor royalty and his wife walked up beside him and She said, it means absolutely nothing. Yeah, that's funny.
It just took the wind right out of his sails it was so funny but he ended up he and I were talking and he and he was probably about 15 years older than his wife yeah his wife was about our age yeah and he said something to me about hey I just you know what we I know she's younger than me, but I'm not a jealous person, and she goes out with who she wants to, and she dances with other guys if she wants to, and do these things. So he was basically telling me that she has a hall pass. And I said, well, we're kind of like that, you know, too. So Mr. Jones, yeah, he and Mr.
Jones and this gentleman have this conversation, and then I noticed this guy is looking at me like he wants to eat me for dinner yeah and i mean i i immediately started feeling like a little uncomfortable because he would stare at me and it was really intense and i didn't know you had had this conversation so i i i didn't know there was just like this really weird but the point is he he's the one that brought it up he was i didn't bring it up In hindsight, I know that now. I responded't know. There was just like this really weird vibe. But the point is, he's the one that brought it up. He was.
I didn't bring it up. In hindsight, I know that now. I responded to him. So then we met a couple. Well, we went up to the nightclub with them and had drinks. And then they invited us the next afternoon after, I think, that was the very end of the cruise. I think we were stopping at the Bahamas the next day. So he's like, hey, after we do sail away from the Bahamas, do you all want to come to our stateroom for some wine? Because we had talked a lot about wine that night and how we all like to drink wine. And our Canadian friends were included in this too. So there were three couples.
So we were like, sure, okay. And then I was like, why do we have to go to their stateroom? There's like 15 bars on this ship. We could beat them at a bar. Because he made me feel a little uncomfortable. Yeah, the point I was trying to make was, you know, like when she came up, she's very beautiful. She was.
And I told her, I said, you have really said you have really nice arms she did and he said oh she's a marathon runner and so right away that gave us something to talk to her about and she was but the point i'm trying to make is the conversation that we had with him was very open and the fact that he mentioned that he was not jealous and he let her dance and then the fact that i mentioned how nice her arms looked and you were standing there you know like before i totally agree with you i mean i jumped right in with you i know but my point is like a year or two ago i would have never said anything like that about another woman right in front of you right and i mentioned her arms and she lit right up and started talking about marathons and then we had that you know interesting conversation and then And we ended up spending some time with them as well.
Yeah. Then we met another gay couple. Yes. And. We met them the day we went to Jamaica. Yeah. They happened to be on our ship, but they went to the same resort we went to for the day. And one of them works in the same business that I work in. So we had a lot to talk about. And you told them we had, you just came right out and told them we had a podcast. They asked about our black rings. Yeah, I know. That's right. Yeah. So we said, well, it's an indicator that we're in the lifestyle.
And, you know, so then we started talking about swinging and, and then we started comparing, um, how swinging and, cause I think they had a somewhat open relationship. I think they were a committed couple, but it sounded like they had an open relationship and they did play with other people. But my point is, the last two cruises we went on, people asked us about our black rings, but either time you didn't say we had a podcast. This time you did.
But you know, these guys, I mean're already in a in an atypical um sexual relationship right as far as you know the mainstream america still considers gay men so you felt like a kinship somewhat atypical you felt safe they would understand they're there i felt like they would be you know less likely to judge because they're already in a place where some people ostracize them, you know, whereas we're in that same position of people knew what we did.
It's just theirs is more, I guess, visibly obvious because they're a couple and they walk together and you and I are a couple and we walk together, but we're heterosexual, so we're just absolutely normal yeah so we kept running into we met so many people we kept running into these people at night at the at the bar and at the nightclub and we had fun dancing with everybody we met so many people and you know so to kind of explain why we our mission changed from flipping vanillas to just meeting as many people as we could because we were just having fun yeah we were having fun i mean if we had tried to flip vanilla vanillas that would have been like a lot of pressure when it would have been a lot of work yeah you know and i was just having fun doing what we were doing yeah so that all of that to bring us to the really the point of this topic and that is um you know the lifestyle isn't something that you do.
The lifestyle is a state of mind. And the thing that got us starting about starting talking about this and wanting to podcast about this last month was that snapshot that we read. Oh, I know.
So if you didn't listen last month or have you forgotten, um, we, I read a snapshot at the end from one of our listeners and it was from um it this the stage that was set was colette in new orleans and it was a younger couple that sent in the snapshot and they were approached by a couple in their 50s and the couple approached them and said you know now you were like the last you know fit attractive over 50 over 50 couple full swap Thank you for listening. approached them and said, you know, we're like the last, you know, fit, attractive, over 50 couple, full swap couple in America or whatever.
And our friends that sent in the snapshot are good friends, actually.
So they know that there's at least another couple over 50 that might happen to be fit and sexy in Americaica so anyway i i really took offense to that and what i really took offense to is that as the conversation progressed between this younger couple and the older couple when the older couple found out that our friends are a soft swap couple they were like oh well you're not real swingers then well hello um that's that's baloney right and we we're learning that most people that at least most people that listen to us that write to us are either not in the lifestyle and they want to be or they're thinking about it or they're new to the lifestyle and you know we want to make sure that we focus our attention on, on the issues that pertain to that group of people.
And a lot of people ask us about these things. And frankly, that's not the lifestyle. That's, that's opposite of what we believe the lifestyle is. And what we experienced on our cruise was not sexual at all with anybody on that ship. But we felt like we were on a lifestyle cruise. It wasn't sexual, but we had so many sexy times. Yes. It was sexy, even though we didn't make it sexual with other people. Right, right. So it's not about the play style. It's not about what other people define you being in the lifestyle or not. We are defining the lifestyle for ourselves. Right.
And we are hopefully giving those of you who are listening permission to do the same and help redefine the lifestyle from what a lot of people believe it is to what it can be which is a whole lot more than just a play style right on a profile and i mean if if it just gives you a sexy attitude and you either aren't in the position because you have little kids at home and you don't have time to get away or or whatever the reason is if you're not in the position to play with other people at this time, you can still live a sexy, fun lifestyle that will enhance the relationship that you have with your partner.
Right. And I'm finding that it's easier for me to approach people now because the labels that I used to put on people are not there anymore. You know, when I see a lesbian couple or a gay couple or an old couple or a young couple or interracial couple or whatever i don't that's not the first thing i think of now it's there's just two people or there's just a person you know a human being right and i think our inner interaction with them makes them feel like we want to know them as a human being and that is just as much fun and and we i mean that's why we had so much fun on this Thank you.
them feel like we want to know them as a human being and that is just as much fun and and we i mean that's why we had so much fun on this cruise meeting other people and you know it's it's your perception of people and so so our perception of ourselves is different than what other people see and we have a perception of other people that's often wrong and a lot of times like we we've kind of said you know these non-lifestyle vacations we go on people stare at their feet you know they don't talk to anybody you know no one's friendly like they are at desire but really used to be that way that's what i mean yeah we because we've changed it seems like everybody a lot of people around us are changing, but really they haven't.
We're just interacting with them. Right. You know, we're just putting those perceptions aside. Somebody just needs to start the conversation. Exactly. You know, and then the conversation can lead, you know, wherever it leads. Maybe it won't lead anywhere.
But I mean, we had some of the funniest conversations with people and there was this one girl one night at the martini bar you can probably tell it better than i can so mr jones and i were sitting you just don't want to say the f word oh my gosh she was young she was i think she was might have been maybe 30 and her fiance was with her and she walks up she was gorgeous blonde like long curly blonde hair she stuck she came up to the bar right next to me yeah and she leans over the bar she says and she says who the fuck has my c-pass card i can't find my fucking c-pass card this is not funny it's serious i can't drink if i don't have my fucking i need my fucking card now because I can't get a drink without it.
And the guy that she was with, which turned out to be her fiance, he was just kind of sitting there quietly and she was going on.
And the bartender was listening to all this and he took her, he had her CPAS card and he moistened the back of it and stuck it on his forehead and he walked up to her while she was screaming and then she realized that he had her c-pass and she yanked it off his forehead and uh then it i mean she was just wound up and then right there i said and then mr jones started teasing her yeah yeah i said i think i think he's got your c-pass card um so anyway so we struck up a conversation with them and they she was just a hoot yeah and her fiance was wonderful as well Here we go.
um so anyway so we struck up a conversation with them and they she was just a hoot yeah and her fiance was wonderful as well he was like kind of like the straight guy and i'm sure it was like that even when she was sober she was just a character well she found out you were uh she found out you know how old you were right and about our family. And she said, you're the hottest fucking grandma I've ever seen. I said, oh, I think that was a compliment. She was hilarious. Oh, and you know, then she started talking about with you. She said that this guy was the first.
Her fiance was the first male relationship that she had ever had a long-term relationship with, that she had always had long-term relationships with females. Yeah. And didn't you tell her that we... Yeah, then we started talking. We told them we had a podcast. Yes, and that we were in the lifestyle. Yeah. So there's another couple we ended up telling we had a podcast. And she said that, you know, she, she really wants to get into the lifestyle, but she's got to wait on her fiance to catch up with her.
So she, I mean, I mean, and she was pretty wasted when she was telling me this, but she was a smart girl because she knew that she couldn't do that until her fiance was ready. She basically told you if it wasn't for him, she would have played with you that night. Yeah. Yeah. And she was adorable. And again, keep in mind, this is a vanilla cruise. These are normal people. Yeah. And all of this stuff happening to us right in front of us. And we're realizing after a while, it's not coincidental. Yeah. Too bad she was so drunk. She probably doesn't even begin to remember.
I told her we had a podcast. Yeah. But she was beautiful, and she was actually a really smart girl. So I think they'll have a good marriage. They're getting married this summer. I think so, too. Yeah. Yeah. So then everyone has to define their own. And I think some of the words that we came up with when we got back and we said, you know, how would we define the lifestyle according to the Joneses in our relationship? And of course, that was the first word that came up is our relationship. Right. It's centered on our relationship. And it's all about us. It's about making true friends.
Well, right. I mean, and again, like I said, when we started swinging, we thought it was because we wanted to have sexy fun with people. Right. We didn't realize that we were going to make these amazing friends. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes when we, we get together with our friends, it's like, oh my gosh, we need to start playing because we're having so much fun talking. It isn't even like we're uncomfortable or it's awkward and we just can't get the play started. It's because we can't stop talking. Well, I think the couple that we spent Wednesday and Friday with made the same comment.
They said, we just had so much, we just enjoyed so much the conversation that we didn't really, we weren't ready to transition. Right. So we were glad that we had the second night, you know, to do that transition. And I'm so glad we did have that second night because that transition was really good. Yeah, they were quite energetic. Oh my gosh, yes. Anyway, you're making me forget about what we were talking about. So anyway, meeting friends, being open-minded, and just looking at people like human beings, there are other human beings, and not putting labels on people, non-judgmental.
And I think when people look at us, they're looking at, okay, here's a 50-some-year-old white couple, been married all this time, you know, that maybe the perception is going to be, you know, that we're a little bit uppity or stuck up or whatever. Well, I'm so glad that that young girl had the, you know, the, the courage or whatever to start that conversation with me. Cause I mean, I was old enough to be her mom. So, you know, for her and I to have that conversation, it was just so, you know, you would have never seen that one coming.
So, you know, I don't know why she felt comfortable, you know, starting that conversation with me, but it was, it was so fascinating. It was a combination of being comfortable and a little bit of alcohol. A little bit of alcohol. Well, I, I, I don't, yeah, I, I had at least a couple of martinis that night too. So yeah, that probably made me a little braver to talk about podcasting and playing with other women. Good for you, honey. I know. But I've done that a couple of years ago. Yeah. But the whole nonjudgmental thing, though, I want to jump on. Okay.
You and I were, every time we would run into our gay friends that we met, there were three gay couples that hung out a lot on the ship. There was a couple from Brazil and a couple from California that we met in Jamaica. And then there was another couple from Holland. And I met one of the gentlemen, but his partner didn't speak English, so I couldn't really talk to him.
But the six of them ended up hanging out a lot that week and you and i kept inserting ourselves into that i know we did but we had met i mean we had had lunch with one couple and the other couple we hung out with at the pool in jamaica you know so i mean we had conversation with them so we kept talking to them and i and they enjoyed having us insert ourselves they weren't like oh there's those old people well a couple of times like we were we were having coffee one day at the coffee bar and they noticed us and they came over and said hello right so i think they felt comfortable and i think i think they could sense that we were not judging their relationship yeah you know so and i guess that's why i told them we were swingers and had a podcast and everything.
But they, I think they felt like we were approachable. And I think that unfortunately, sometimes society isn't as open. And you know, Mr. Jones, you and I live in a pretty progressive area, because we live near a big city. And I think we forget a lot of small town America isn't really exposed to, um, alternate relationships. Yeah. So they, they don't, people don't know what to do when they encounter people like that. Yeah. Yeah. So open-minded and non-judgmental is a part of our definition. And also the play style doesn't matter. The play style is less important if you play. Right.
You know, so it doesn't, you know, it really full swap, soft swap, girl, girl. We like it all. Yeah. I mean, that's right. And going back to the comment that the people made, you're not real swingers. Oh, I know. That still just gets under my skin. So it doesn't matter the play style.
If that's your style and we connect, that's's your style that's what and it's hot i know it doesn't matter i'm telling you what i had a lot of fun dancing with that that drunk girl that night at the disco i mean and she and i were just dancing in front of everybody else so So we weren't even doing anything appropriate, but that was sexy fun. Yeah. Yep. And so, um, and we've mentioned this before, but physical attraction is less important to us now. I mean, it's still important, but it's not, it's not a deal breaker. You know, we, we don't look at that first. We look at the people.
We're not looking for Ken and Barbie. Yeah.
We're looking for people that have personalities people that have personalities yeah yeah so that that doesn't seem to be as important yeah um and then discovering our own personalities as a part of the lifestyle too and and giving each other permission to discover those those personalities so one night it was towards the end of the cruise we were up at the i think that was called the sky lounge yeah yeah that was the the club that was open like after midnight so we were up there one night with our canadian friends and um i think i think the gentleman didn't feel the greatest that night i think he was kind of tired and and he just kind of wanted to sit down he didn't want to dance so you and the lady and i danced for a while.
And then we came back and, and refreshed our drinks. And I sat down to kind of put my feet up for a while because my feet were hurting. And so the Canadian couple and I were sitting and you just started making the rounds, you were working the room. And, and the gentleman looks over at me and he says, your husband really knows how to work a room. And I said, yeah, go figure. Because Mr. Jones used to be really, really, you weren't shy, but you were just quiet and kind of reserved. You would keep to yourself.
I mean, you would certainly have a conversation if somebody approached you, but you never would get up and work the room. And I just sat there.
I didn't even get up to come over to you because i was just fascinated watching you yeah like who's it going to talk to next oh look at that oh yeah they're cute too i was having so much fun i i you know and the thing about it was there was no there was absolutely zero chance that we were going to have sex with anybody i was socializing with it was about the freedom to allow myself to be who i was and everything that we've learned in the lifestyle and how we've grown i'm just so much more comfortable being myself yeah you know and you were even talking to a couple that didn't speak english i did there was a mexican couple and they were gorgeous yeah oh my goodness I wish I was talking to them and they didn't speak any English.
I know. No, she didn't. I think he spoke little English. Oh yeah. There wasn't a lot there because you and I had talked to them previously. Yeah. Well, they kept looking at us on the dance floor and I said, come on and dance. And then I realized they didn't speak English. So I went over there and tried to talk to him anyway. Oh, they were gorgeous. But I told Mr. Jones I'm like you know it would be hard to play with them because there would be zero ability to communicate like you wouldn't be able to talk about boundaries or play styles or anything and Mr.
Jones was like I don't care if the opportunity presented itself we would figure it out yeah where there's a will I know because they they were really yeah maybe the lifestyle is like the international language yeah maybe so Well, and you know, that's how I've, that's how I've grown. I mean, I, I'm just much more, I, you know, I keep wanting to say the word self-confident, but really I just want to say I'm learning to be myself. Yeah.
I'm learning to be, you know, we, back to perceptions, you know, we have a perception of other people, but we also have a perception of ourselves and this is who am, and this is how old I am, and this is how society expects me to be, you know, and this is how I should behave. And, you know, if you listen to yourself, you talk yourself into just being the same old person. Right. And us being in the lifestyle has made me realize there's other people attracted to me. There's other people that are interested in me. There's other people that want to talk to me.
And so I don't feel like it's a big risk anymore to be rejected. And I'm not talking about having sex. I'm just talking about making eye contact with another couple and saying, hello. I know. How are you guys? Where are you from? I mean, I know. And just, it's so interesting to hear. I mean, even, you know, just on the cruise, obviously, you and I love to hear people's lifestyle journeys, but just to hear about people in general, I mean, it's just so much fun to talk about people and where they're from and, you know, what kind of vacations they like to go on.
And so you can still find all kinds of fun things to talk about. And there wasn't one person that we opened a conversation with that said excuse me i don't want to talk to you right or turned and walked away you know everybody smiled and we had some sort of a conversation yeah i guess if everybody has a martini in their hand or they're up at the sunset bar drinking their aperol spritzer like i'm drinking right now yeah gross yeah it's not gross it was good you liked It was good. You liked them on the ship. What's the problem? Well, that's because the other lady was drinking them. Oh, yeah.
Our beautiful Canadian lady. This was her drink of choice. I was trying to impress her. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, in closing, I think what we're saying a few things is, you know, the lifestyle gives you really the freedom to be introspective, to peel away the layers, you know, that you've allowed to accumulate on you as an individual. You know, why do you believe that the things that you believe and, you know, what is it that makes you fearful of coming out of that?
And, you know, I just feel like right now, you know, it's really given us the freedom to ask these introspective types of questions to learn who you really are and and not who other people think you are or what society has painted you to be or your parents and your educators and your job and your church and all these other influences but who are you you know who are you designed to be so we really feel like that this gives you the freedom to start asking those internal questions. And, you know, the opportunity to meet people on an intimate level. And intimate doesn't mean having sex.
It means connecting to people, you know, as humans connect, like the gay couple. And, I mean, we just really had meaningful conversations with people. And permission to question how how we're programmed we just had this conversation the other night about how when you are playing with another couple or whether or it could even be in a threesome whether it's you, with another woman or with another man, you know, what is, how are you programmed to allow yourself to enjoy that? You know, like, especially men, you know, men are so programmed to be homophobic. Yeah.
And, you know, the lifestyle really forces you to examine that because if you're really that homophobic, it's really going to like inhibit your ability to have fun with another couple because you're going to be really close to another dude and you need to get over that. Yeah. Well, I mean, but just not just to flippantly say you need to get over it, but, but to ask yourself, okay, I'm uncomfortable with that. Why am I uncomfortable with that?
What is it about another human being that has skin just like I have, and we touch each other accidentally or incidentally, you know, why, why should that wig me? Why does that wig me out? What is it in the past, you know, that has created this in my mind, you know, that I feel this way.
And see, I can't even relate to that because, and I'm not saying all men to be bisexual, will, you know, because, you know that that I feel this way and see I can't even relate to that because and I'm not saying all men to be bisexual you know because you know I'm a woman who loves to play with other women it's not a main driving force in my sexuality but when the opportunity presents itself it sure is a lot of fun you know so it's really hard I think for a lot of women to just wrap their heads around the struggles that you men go through, because I think they are real struggles for you guys.
You know, allowing yourself to relax enough to enjoy being around another naked man and not feel threatened, intimidated or whatever it is you guys feel. It's kind of like jealousy in a way. You know, when you're not in the lifestyle, you have this fear of losing to somebody you love. What I've learned is being in the lifestyle, you've had opportunities to leave me plenty of times for other people you've slept with. Well, honey, you know, just about everybody we sleep with. Here's my point. They're happily married. Here's my point. You've proven to me over and over again that you come home.
Yeah. Also, I've played with other couples and I've touched other guys accidentally or incidentally. And I've seen other guys and other guys have seen me. And you know what? I'm still straight. There you go. And so I don't have that fear that's been programmed into me that somehow, some way it's going to influence my sexuality just because another guy is attracted to me or wants to touch me. And it just, it just, that's so laughable now, but it's real because I've experienced it. I think it takes experience.
You know, you have to experience it and process it and then all of a sudden you realize okay i had irrational fears yeah but you don't know they're irrational until you can work through them right and so we also believe that the being in the lifestyle and closing the ability to notice attractive qualities in others like the girl with great arms yeah you know you i don't i don't worry about you anymore i told her she had great arms I I agreed with you right but I was gorgeous but I mean people that are norm that are not in the lifestyle and regular relationships don't have permission I didn't feel like I had permission to say that two years ago I felt like I would have disrespected you or I would have you know made you feel uncomfortable and that's that's not the case definitely not anymore and then we have the freedom to explore and grow based on a new level of trust so i mean that goes back to our relationship but i mean we basically can talk about anything right with anybody about any other people about what we like about them and what's attracted us to them because we have this level of trust?
Well, I think the freedom that we have is that we give ourselves permission to, I guess, fantasize. And maybe this is more for me because I didn't used to fantasize and I guess I am fantasizing fantasizing now. And what, well, I don't know. I mean, I, you know, I think about things that we do with other people and how we could have been, you know, taken that a step further if we'd have had more time or more energy or whatever. Cause you know, once two o'clock rolls around, we're all kind of done.
But I think the, the, because we've been through so many experiences together that have kind of pushed the boundaries of our relationship and, and we keep coming through unscathed because we're, we're doing it together and we're communicating. I think that just gives you freedom to say, well, what else is out there?
You know, what else, you know, can we explore as couple yeah to um kind of figure out who we are yeah and what our potential is yeah so we have that freedom and then finally and you know just this is our advice yes yes be picky be patient and persevere yes a lot of people say you guys are lucky or you you have so many good experiences or you seem to know how to write to select the right people. But we're picky and we're patient and we persevere. Yeah. So when something bad happens, we we talk through it, we work through it and we and we try again.
You know, we don't give up because we we've seen the the benefits. so we know that the bumps in the road are worth the heartburn that you get and the uncomfortable conversations that you have to have because, you know, you're going to come through it better for it as both individuals and as a couple, but be picky. I mean, so when we talk about keeping up with the Joneses, I mean, we're, we're talking about all the good stuff that happened. You know, we, we are pretty careful about who we play with. And, and the thing is, is we've been doing this a couple of years now.
So a lot of people we play with are friends that we've played with before. So it's not like every time we play, we're starting over and we're meeting all these new fabulous people. We still are meeting new people, but, but we've got this like core group of lifestyle friends now that, you know, we, they're busy, we're busy. So we might only see them like once every three months or whatever. But, you know, when you see them again, it's just like, oh, this is awesome because we know you guys, we know you're sexy.
We know, you know, know your play styles and and you can just you know get on with the evening and the stress isn't there as much and that has to do with the perseverance so you know getting through those first couple you know you meet a couple or two that you it's going to take a while you sift through the ones that you don't connect with and there are ones that you do connect with but once you find them and you cultivate that, then all of a sudden you don't have that worry anymore. Yeah. You can get together and you just pick up right where you left. You kind of put them in the rotation.
Yeah. Right. Put them in the rotation.
I mean, we were just talking about that because the couple that we just played with Saturday night, I mean, they, you know, they still have kids at home and they both have like really crazy intense careers and you know so we we haven't seen them since last fall but but we like me we like meeting new couples too yeah we do i mean i think a mixture of both and i think i think having the friends that we're really comfortable with takes the pressure off of meeting new people because when we meet new people we don't have that objective of you know do we connect going to sleep with you?
You know, that's in the back of our minds. Yeah. And then if it happens, it happens. And that just is all the better. Yeah, that's right. So we hope that you realize that especially those of you who have emailed us and said, I don't know that I'll ever be in the lifestyle or we're not in the lifestyle.
But if you about this entire episode and this topic too that we've been discussing discussing we haven't talked about playing with anybody right this is just a mindset and so you can do that now uh well we played with each other mr jones yeah but so do they yeah well i mean we were on vacation so you know the the sexy fun that we had with other people that was non-sexual, that's still kind of, you know, was a little bit of, yeah, it was still a little bit of foreplay for you and I to go back to our cabin and, and have our own fun. Yeah, definitely.
So I guess that's my point is that even if you don't play with other people, you know, experiencing the lifestyle on the fringes and just having sexy times and experiences and just kind of observing from the outside in will still give you an opportunity to enhance your relationship and have fun with your partner. Yeah, so here's the bottom line though.
I'm saying that if in this lifestyle dimension that we've just defined if this is the lifestyle and we believe it is it makes a whole lot more sense to partake in this part of the lifestyle prior to actually playing with somebody you mean don't do it like we did it no no i don't i don't mean it that way i mean that that's how you and i dove in head that's how most people do it honey yeah that's what i'm saying is that i I don't do it like we did it? No, I don't mean it that way. I mean that's how most people do it, honey. That's what I'm saying. We're redefining this for ourselves.
And we're hoping that people learn from us. And I'm not saying it was a mistake. I'm just saying this is discovery. And this vacation, this cruise kind of helped crystallize this for us. So here we are two and a half years in, you know, realizing that this is just as an important component to it as playing with other people. So we hope that you take that away. And I think this vanilla vacation was important for our relationship. Yeah. Because we have to keep it balanced. Well, we booked another one for next year. I know. I know.
But again, if'all want to join us just let us know and we'll give you the details yeah all right so we hope you enjoyed uh segment two and when we come back we'll share some hopefully some sexy snaps yes Thank you. welcome back everybody to our snapshot segment mr jones is going to go first with one of our listener snapshots yeah and this is this is going to sound like a repeat from last time but it's too funny i have to read it yeah it. Yeah, it is a good one. Yeah, this is from a couple in North Carolina who listened to us. And I'm going to read their snapshot.
So our snapshot this weekend was that we started an episode. We started listening to one of your episodes while heading downtown to meet our daughter-in-law and her mother for lunch. So this is one of those like rites of passage meetings. It's very formal. You got to be on your best behavior. You got to say all the right things. And so anyway, they were on their way and they were, instead of thinking about this meeting that they were about to attend, they're listening to our podcast. So got to give them credit for that. Yeah, they're probably already straight. Yeah.
Anyway, they were listening to an episode heading downtown to meet with their daughter-in-law and her mother for lunch. We talked about the episode until they arrived, so it was very much on top of mind. Towards the end of the meal, her mother referenced trying to keep up with the Joneses. We avoided looking at each other knowing we wouldn't be able to keep a straight face and I smiled thinking I am keeping up with them. Mrs. Jones kept losing her panties on the stairwell and Mr. Jones came twice and was very pleased.
Back in the car we had a good laugh and finished the episode adding nicely to our Sunday afternoon. So that's funny. I didn't know they have their priorities straight. Another keeping up with the Joneses incident. Okay, Mrs. Jones, your turn. Well, my snapshot is from a couple in Louisiana, and this is actually the second snapshot they've sent to us, right? Yeah.
So they they've got some good stuff going on so it starts out saying we were recently at a club just minding our own business when a couple entered our peripheral vision all four of us freaked out walking towards us was a couple we've known for almost 30 years we've been in the lifestyle about four years. They've been exploring for about six months. Actually, my husband had taken the lady out before we got married and always thought that she was very attractive. I and the other woman actually had celebrated spring break together as college students 30 years ago. Wow. I know.
Talk about a small world. Although our paths have crossed several times over the years, it has always just been friendly small talk. Thank you. Wow. I know. Talk about a small world. Although our paths have crossed several times over the years, it has always just been friendly small talk. So, suffice it to say, we have a history. Little did we know that that history would translate to some incredibly comfortable and sexy times together. Both of us have been married about 27 years, which makes us secure and at ease with sharing. They live literally only about 15 minutes from us.
There are actually two snapshots. The first one was the look on their faces when they spotted us at the club. Yeah. That was one of those oh shit moments. Yeah, right. The second one is looking into the eyes of people you've known for 30 years as we share our spouses with one another and seeing the trust and pleasure in their eyes. Yeah. That is awesome. See, they had a choice. They could have hightailed it out. Right. You know, and run for the hills. Right. But they decided not to. Man. And it turned out to be a good thing. Yeah, that is incredible.
Yeah, so thank you guys for sending those snapshots.hots and just a clarification we we need some more snapshots we've had people send us a lot of snapshots but they need to be short they need to be concise and they need to be to the point and and some of you are sending us some things that are really interesting but they're really long and so we really you know just those two are good examples of how it can be just short and sweet and to the point and then we'd be happy to read those in the air. So thank you all for contributing. And we're still looking for more snapshots.
So feel free to send them our way. So who's going first, you or me? Well, I'll go first. Okay. So my snapshot is very concise and to the point. So am I allowed to share it? Yeah, I'll edit it down if it's too long. Okay. So mine goes back to the disco or the nightclub or whatever, the Sky Lounge on the cruise ship. So one night we were kind of shutting the place down. I think it was like 1 o'clock or 1.30 in the morning. And I think all the bartenders were like, ugh, when are these people going to leave?
There were probably maybe, I don't't know there's probably only like 20 people left in the lounge and the dance floor had kind of cleared out a little bit well our gay friends were all out on the dance floor all three couples and I think there were a couple other couples out there but you and I were kind of dancing with all of our gay friends so it was the six guys and you you and me. And then Mr. Jones had to go to the bathroom. So he was like, I'm going to the restroom. I'll be right back. Are you going to be okay here?
And I'm like, yeah, I mean, I'm dancing with six gorgeous, gorgeous guys. So then what song comes on is Mr. Jones leaves to go to the bathroom, but Cindy Lauper's girls just want to have fun. Girl, girl just wants to have fun. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. The girl just wants to have fun, but I'm dancing with these six guys. And the one couple that we had really hit it off with from California that it was really just the two of us and the two of them and me dancing. And we were all singing the song to each other.
And I just thought it was so hilarious and ironic that I was dancing with these six gorgeous guys and me too. Girls just want to have fun. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good snapshot. So yes, I was perfectly fine while you were gone. Yeah. Good. I think mine's more even concise than yours. Okay. And what it is, is thinking back and sitting on Hollover Beach on a beautiful Saturday afternoon in North Miami. Oh, my gosh. The sun was out, naked people all around, and I'm sitting on a blanket with three gorgeous topless chicks, Tiff and Rachel and Mrs. Jones. Yes. And I'm watching guys out of the corner.
I have my sunglasses on, so I'm watching them going by like, what's up with that dude? How come he's got three gorgeous women sitting with him? Yeah, you were a lucky guy that day. Yeah. So I really enjoyed being the only guy. Even though Tiff and Rach don't play with guys, we didn't need to share that with anybody else. Yeah, really. They could let them think what they want to think. So that was my snapshot.
of a playful and fun one but at least it was a little sexy this time yeah unlike the last few that I've done yeah so neither snapshot from you or me was sexual but they were sexy and just I just that's what I think of when we went on our cruise we just had so much fun I think we did. I think we laughed so much that week. Oh, my gosh. So many great people. Of course, that was because Mr. Jones was making fun of a lot of people, too. Well, that's just my lot in life. That's right. That's a skill that I have. That's right.
Oh, that's because there were so many of those electric carts on the cruise. I'm surprised you haven't brought that up yet. Yeah. I mean, one time we went somewhere to eat, and it was like, it looked like a saloon.
You know how how in the western movies the horses are tied up to the post out front there's all these battery operated carts tied up out front this restaurant yeah there were some older people on the ship and then they were trying to get into the elevators and anyway i digress we took the stairs a lot because of that yeah we took the stairs all the time except for when you had your high heels on yeah so anyway uh before we go what do we have coming up we've um we're going to temptation at the end of may yay 28 through the 31st uh we've got about 10 or 12 couples interested in our meet and greet at naughty in new orleans yeah so if you guys are interested let us know because we got to make sure we that our space is the right size yeah and we will email you all with details, those of you who commit, so if you guys are interested, let us know because we've got to make sure that our space is the right size.
Yeah. And we will email you all with details, those of you who commit. So if you are going to be at Naughty New Orleans and you want to meet us in the meet and greet, it's going to be Wednesday afternoon. We haven't settled on the time, but it's going to be 435 o'clock. Yeah, late afternoon. So let us know. And as we've been saying, we're going to be at Desire Pearl, August 13th through the 21st. Please join us there. And iTunes reviews, we're stuck at 49. Oh, we don't have 50. It's just right at 49. No, we're stuck at 49. Somebody needs to push us over the top. Tragic.
Yeah, please review us on iTunes. And thanks to the couple of you who gave us reviews this month. We really appreciate that. So our contact information, like we said at the start, my new email address, our new email address is MrJones, M-R-J-O-N-E-S at WeGotAThing.com or Mrs. Jones. And you know, I should have given you like sexiest voice on iTunes at WeGotathing.com. I think Mrs. Jones is just fine. That was kind of, that was kind of, that's probably the one you wanted, but it's a little bit long for people to spell out. No, I think Mrs. Jones is just fine, dear. Mrs.
Jones at wegotathing.com. Please challenge her to see if she'll actually answer your emails. I will. Okay. I will. I love our listeners. Okay. Our website is wegotathing.com. You can follow us on Twitter at We Got a Thing. And if you're on Cassidy, we have a Cassidy community. Please come find us and join our Cassidy community. So just one last shout out to our new website guy.
We did have a listener step up and he has come up with some amazing ideas yeah we're so excited about what we're going to be doing i think he's just as excited as we are i think he's more excited i know that's what's making it so much fun and he knows what he's doing and he's just so creative yeah we're really excited about thank you so much so we have a new friend and more on that next month we'll give you some more details about the new website but we're happy about it yes so thanks for listening we are Mr. and Mrs.
Jones and we got a thing what's your thing Well, welcome back to our snapshot segment. Let me try that again.
