Keeping up with the Joneses- another try at a house party, a visit from our Florida friends, single guy #2 and a "shake down" cruise of our new swinger pad. Discussion Topic- We discuss how we approached understanding and balancing the risks (STIs, pregnancy, our relationship and being found out) with the rewards of entering and progressing through the lifestyle. Snapshots- (Yet) another un-sexy snapshot from Mr Jones but never fear, Mrs Jones heats things back up with a very sexy story! Mentioned in this episode Centers for Disease Control- educate yourself about sexually transmitted infections. Contact us Email- [email protected] Website- wegottathing.com Twitter- @wegottathing Music licenses by BMI Me & Mrs Jones- Billy Paul
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This podcast contains explicit language and content and is for mature audiences only. Hey you teenagers out there, if you're under 18, this show is more for your parents. So now that you have that mental picture stuck in your head, put some music on and get back to doing your homework. We are a long-time married couple who's decided to chronicle our personal adventures and share our sex-positive discussions as we navigate our way through the swinging lifestyle. Care to join us? Hello, everyone. I'm Mr. Jones.
And I'm Mrsrs jones and we want to welcome you to episode 20 of the we gotta think podcast episode 20 yeah we made it yeah it's something isn't it yeah it seems like we're making some progress yeah and it's a wednesday night hump your wife day oh okay Well, I hope you enjoyed our podcast tonight. That wasn't subliminal. That was just right out there, wasn't it? Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. We're going to have to finish this later. I need to work on my subtleness. Yeah. We are podcasting a little bit early in the week because we're going out of town this weekend.
We have our first road race of the season yes we're uh running a race with um actually a bunch of friends vanilla friends vanilla friends so far yeah so we've we've all run at a house near um the start line of the race and we're going to spend the weekend together and i just have to keep reminding mr jones that they're vanilla friends well one of there, there's a single lady there that has a crush on you. Well, you know, you might be right. Yeah. I really can't deny it. Yeah. You might be right.
So if something happens, I mean, it doesn't mean we have to tell it we're in the lifestyle or anything. If it happens, it happens. That's true. It's just like one of those things. That's true. This house is beautiful. It sleeps like, I don't know, 22 people or something. It's got like 13 bedrooms. So anyway, it's got an indoor pool in it. It's a heated pool, which, you know, it's still March. So we kind of would appreciate that this time of year. And Mr. Jones said, I said, you have to pack your bathing suit. And he was like, why? And I said, because there's an indoor pool.
And he's like, we have to wear bathing suits. oh boy it's gonna be a long weekend yeah it is but we're looking forward to it springtime you know the clocks just changed so we have an extra hour daylight in the evening and we're able to you know it's better running weather yeah so we're looking forward to you know getting away and and having some fun and I think we're getting a little bit ahead of ourselves because this episode is called Eyes Wide Open. And in our main segment, we're going to be talking about the risks and the rewards of being in the lifestyle. That's right.
We'll talk about that in a minute. So, all right. Besides our race this weekend, what else do we have? Well, we need to look back. Oh, yeah. Keeping up with the Joneses. What have we been up to? Yeah. So what have we been up to? Well, we got home from Miami, and I think we took a weekend off. We had a Mr. and Mrs. Jones weekend. We did, and it was nice. It was really nice. We needed to reconnect and rest and recuperate and just spend some time together, a little bit of normalcy in our lives. Yes. So from that weekend of decadence to a weekend of just me and Mrs. Jones, huh? Yes. Thank you.
spend some time together a little bit of normalcy in our lives yes so from that weekend of decadence to a weekend of just me and mrs jones huh yes so that was very fun and then it was um house party time again so we used our new found new and improved communication skills and went to another house party yeah new and improved yeah we had nowhere to go but up at that point yeah but we did we had a we had a good time at this house party yes um we were kind of disappointed because there were a lot of couples there that we weren't going to know but there were going to be three couples there that we are friends with and we've known for quite a while.
Yes. And the one set of friends that we probably see the least because they live the furthest away had texted us the morning of the house party and said that the wife was sick. So they weren't coming. So we were like, oh man, that's too bad. Strike one.
Yeah, because we don't get to see them very often and we were really looking forward to catching up with them there goes our eight some yeah so then we were still texting with another couple that we don't get to see very often but you know fairly often i guess and all day long it was like what appetizer are you making what are you wearing and you know can't wait to see you tonight and where are we gonna play and i mean we were just kind of like going to town all day long with texting and about five o'clock we got the text she had a fever she had a fever strike two she and she said she knew it was coming all day long she said she felt like she was fading and was just in denial about it and then once she actually took her temperature realized that that she had a fever, she probably thought it was a good idea not to expose that to other people.
I was a little hesitant to text the third couple and make sure they were still going to be there. But I did. And they said, yeah, we'll see you soon. Oh, we were like, shoo. There'll be somebody there. I mean, we had a good time.
This is the third time we've been to this particular house party you know we know the host fairly well um it was another good event and you know we really we almost slipped out without playing yeah i mean we talked to a lot of people we got to meet a couple that we were looking forward to meeting um well we got to meet the husband right the wife was out of town yeah um so we got to talk to him for quite a while and that was fun and i you know we're gonna hopefully be able to get something on the calendar with them to get to know them a little better and um you know we talked to our friends a lot and they were trying to meet new people too and as the evening went on i think mr jones and i were just you know satisfied with the fact that we had had a lot of fun sexy sexy conversations and we were going to go home and play because we actually live fairly close to this house party.
Yeah, we had gotten separated from our friends and didn't want to intrude on their conversation. So we started packing up and then they ran over and said, hey, are you guys leaving? Are you interested in playing? And so we took our jackets back off. We were like, let us think about that for a second. Sure. Yeah, so we did and had a lot of fun with them. Yes. So no communication issues at all. Nope. And most people were behaving quite well around the dining room table that night. For the most part, yes. For the most part, yes. No more dick in the devil days.
No you know people just make some comments that you know just remind you that not everybody's in this just for the same reason that we are but that's pretty normal yeah but it was it was fun we had fun it was good entertainment all around yes yes and then was it i think it was the following monday yes it was so we went to the house party Saturday night. And then Monday night, which was a bonus, a couple that we had met at the Do You Know George party in Miami, and they're from Florida, were going to be passing through the area on a trip.
And they stopped in, and we had dinner with them here at the house on Monday night. Yeah, we did. That was really fun. We had dessert.
Yes dessert yes and they kept us up or we kept them up until one o'clock in the morning yeah on a school night and i have to get up at 4 30 in the morning i think we had some hot tub time that night with them too didn't we we had a lot of fun they're great i mean we had a we had fun playing with them in miami right and they they had progressed a little bit since then but they're just a really first of all they're super attractive and just a wonderful and they're really confident even though they're new they're really confident in themselves and they're confident um knowing what they want and what they don't want and they're really good communicators yes and they're just fun yeah yeah so we had a good time yeah so we had a bonus monday night gig and then what mrs jones um well then let's see what came next let's see that was monday and then on friday yeah we met up with another single guy yeah and this one had been on the calendar you know our first single guy experience was an unexpected treat.
This one was supposed to be our first. Yes. Yeah, but he was our second. And he probably benefited from being the second. Right, right. So this is a single guy that had reached out to us last summer. And we had kind of gotten to know him a little bit last summer.
And then he said that he was going to be in town for business at the at the end of February I guess so we well he had heard about your Christmas gift right and then he contacted us and said he was going to be in town and wanted to know if we would be interested in getting together right and he fit all of our criteria yes he did and so we decided to meet him right so we had been texting with him for gosh, a few weeks ahead of our date to, he did. And so we decided to meet him. Right. So we had been texting with him for, gosh, a few weeks ahead of our date to get to know him a little bit better.
I think you and he had done a lot of emailing over a period of time. But then, yeah, then we started texting. And it was fun because we were talking about, you know, what kind of restaurant we wanted to meet at for dinner.
And we were trying to kind of figure out what atmosphere would be the most conducive to private conversation and yeah but before that when I was emailing him it was more you know I was asking him you know about his experience level and about what he enjoys about being a single guy and you know I was telling him a little bit about me and about what I wanted and what my role was going to be. And so he and I had a lot of back and forth about just foundational things. So Mr. Jones did all the dirty work. Yeah.
And then once they got all that worked out, then I got to jump in and have some fun conversation. Then we invited you into the conversation.
And then we started, started getting a lot more friendly and and flirty over a few weeks and then so anyway then he came into town and we met him in an old town part of the area and went to a nice restaurant yeah but we found a booth kind of upstairs where there weren't very many people up there was a friday night and i was afraid it was going to be just jam-packed and loud and because a lot of the restaurants um in the part of town we were in are like old historic buildings and there's no like you know sound proofing or whatever all the sound just bounces around and so they have really neat ambience but not always real conducive to like quiet private conversation but before we had gotten there on the way up remember we had the conversation about we We'll be right back.
and so they have really neat ambience but not always real conducive to like quiet private conversation but before we had gotten there on the way up remember we had the conversation about we felt like that because of the emailing and the texting that we if if things went well during the evening we were prepared to play right but we were always had the and we told him that you know that we weren't promising, you know, but that we felt like we were really comfortable with him and we would decide at dinner, you know, if we wanted to extend the evening and he had the right to do so too. Right.
And then the other thing is we had to figure out where to play because, um, we don't live too terribly far from where we were having dinner. Um, so we had to decide, well well do we get a hotel room or do we you know bring him to our home so that was kind of a big decision well we had a hotel lined up right at the last minute but we didn't book it but we knew that they had a vacancy and then we're 45 minutes away so we decided to play it by ear and when we got to the restaurant anyway to get back to the booth, you know, you know, do you do who sits on what side? Right.
And, uh, when we got to the restaurant anyway, to get back to the booth, you know, you know, do you do who sits on what side? Right. And he kind of stood there and you and I sat down next to each other. I sat down next to you and he sat down across from us and then about, and it was fine. Oh yeah. But then like maybe a half an hour in, I'm thinking this poor guy probably thinks he's like on a job interview or something, you know, cause you and I were kind of sitting like, it was kind of like sitting across the desk from somebody. That's what it is. That's not sexy, though.
I know, but really, that's what it is. Yeah, I mean, you're right. You're right. I mean, you're saying the person face to face, you're looking in his eyes, you're, you're making eye contact, you're assessing, is he credible?
Is, you know, is he real is you know is he real and that's what it is i know it's just part of it but he got up to use the restroom about a half an hour 45 minutes in and you suggested that i go on to the other side of the booth and so when he came back he sat next to you so we probably confused the server a little bit but that's probably not the weirdest thing she's ever seen so no i doubt So yeah, so it was kind of fun sitting next to him. Right. So we had a good dinner conversation and we decided that we wanted to continue the evening and we gave him the option.
We said, well, we can't, there's a hotel like five minutes away or we could go back to the house and he was comfortable coming back to the house. Right. So we brought him down.
So that was fun because one of the things that we had talked about ahead of time is um you know again finding that place to have a good conversation and and uh he said something about finding a place where you know it would be private and people wouldn't overhear us so we didn't have to be so careful about our language or you know what we were talking about and i said yeah sometimes mr jones has that problem when i have to like kick him under the table to tell him to lower his voice a little bit. And he said, yeah, I've been accused of that, too.
So I started joking around with both of you and I'm like, great. Now I'm going to have to be like in charge of keeping two guys like volume controlled over the evening. And I said that there would be a price to pay for that. So then, of course, it was like, well, what's the penalty going to be? And the penalty was a forehanded massage from two sexy guys. Yeah, that was the first thing that we did. And that's exactly what I got. It was awesome. And you actually behaved at dinner, so you didn't even really do anything wrong. But I got my massage anyway. You skipped our transition, though.
Because we came home and we sat down in our furniture arrangement in the sunroom. And you were sitting next next to him on the love seat and I was sitting in a separate chair so it was kind of like when we were in Florida yeah you know but this time it was so much easier for me because I didn't have to keep like looking at you like uh-oh is everything okay you know how is he perceiving me flirting and you were fine and then we went up to the massage table. Yes. Yeah. Didn't take long. For what? To get up to the massage table. Right. Yeah. So we gave you a massage for a while. Yeah.
And it could have been longer. Listen to you. It's greedy. Not being greedy. I mean, things were just like getting heated up. And all of a sudden mrs mr jones says um i think we should move to the bedroom yeah of course our single guy said well okay so what was i to do yeah i wasn't gonna lay on the massage table by myself he wasn't complaining no it was fine it was fine and we moved into the bedroom and that was actually pretty easy. Yeah. And we had a good time. I mean, I won't get too explicit here.
I mean, we, we changed positions quite a few times and we, he taught us a couple of new tricks. Yeah, he did. And, uh, it was a little bit maybe awkward at first for him. And, and I think this goes back to what we talked about with the other single guy, because he realized, you know, we're going to be talking about this on our podcast. So the first part of it, I think he was settling in, but he got comfortable pretty quickly. And once the three of us got comfortable, it was very fluid.
And, you know, we talked a lot and we went back and forth and I would step out for a minute and grab a drink and watch. And then I would re-engage we would move around. So it was a lot of fun. It was more than a lot of fun. The finish was like crazy. The finish was like, you know, the 4th of July, the grand finale. It was. Yeah. Because he and I finished within a minute of each other and that was pretty hot. I know. I mean, I, I remember it, but I just remember, and I didn't really drink very much that night at all because I really felt like I needed to keep my wits about me.
And I just remember being dizzy. It was just like so much sensory overload. It was crazy. Well, you handled us pretty well. Yeah. Yeah. I'm kind of like enjoying that. It, it's not really about being the center of attention. It's about, um, I don't know. It's kind of a balancing act and I don't know. I like it, but you know, again, I, we've had, you know, a really good experience with single guys. I know. You know what? We're batting a thousand.
Maybe we should quit while We're ahead i know let's stick with these two guys i know our first single guy unfortunately lives a thousand miles away so that's not uh super easy hey we're to meet up with him where there's a will and actually this single guy doesn't live close either but he travels a lot what if you had both of them at the same time oh my gosh i don't I don't know. I don't know if I can handle that. All right, write that down. Let's check our calendars. Yeah, write that down. So the good thing about it is, so the evening was a lot of fun. And then afterwards, we talked to him.
And he was telling us a lot of funny stories about being a single guy at dinner. Oh, my gosh. And in the car ride on the way home oh my gosh we invited him we said well it would be great if you could come on our podcast not knowing how he would respond and he said oh i would love that so we're hopeful that in a couple months he may have to come back to town then we'd have him back down because i think giving him a voice and a platform as a really solid single guy to play his part in helping the community understand what the life of a single guy is like. And, you know, he is a good one. Yeah.
You know, and so to get, get the message out there about, you know, his experiences and how he works as a single guy and how much fun he has and how he connects with the couple. And of course while he's here we're not just podcast we'll probably have some fun too probably yeah i hope so yeah i think that's the payment for being on the podcast i well yeah gosh and then the other thing that was a little bit strange but it didn't it wasn't strange was i had to drive him back to town to his hotel so he and and I had a 45 minute drive back into, uh, into town and I dropped him off at his hotel.
We, and we had really a relaxing conversation all the way back up. So yeah, I didn't go with him. The princess laid and stayed at home and laid in bed, but I waited up for you. I didn't go to sleep. Yeah. So, cause I wanted to talk to you afterwards. Yeah. So single guy, number two, Thank you very much.
He does listen to the podcast, wanted to talk to you afterwards yeah so single guy number two thank you very much he does listen to the podcast so shout out to you and we hope that we see you in a couple months yes absolutely and then moving on to probably the last thing that occurred yes so we finally got together with our friends that we were supposed to get together with when the blizzard struck in jan. Yes.
So it took a couple months to get, get them back on the calendar where we were, because they traveled a lot and we were traveling and we just couldn't get a weekend until this past weekend. Right. And we've been, as you know, we've been talking about refurbishing our basement into a swinger pad and it's about 90% done. So we, we asked them if they wanted to help, um, kick the tires. Right. So we met him in, um, a town pretty close to here, kind of halfway between us for dinner. So we, we went to dinner and yeah, but on the way to dinner, that's when the sexiest voice. Oh my gosh.
You know, your GPS skills. We lived in our town for 30 years and we went to a restaurant that is not far away from where we live. And we've been to this restaurant multiple times and Mr. Jones always gets lost. You make me nervous. I mean, it's a, it's a downtown area. And if I don't turn where you would turn, you must have turned. Well, and then I ask you. But we always go the same way. And you can't remember that way. I know. And I said, OK, I need to know what to do next. And you said, well, when you get to the school, you're going to turn. So I got to the school.
I said, you're going to turn at the school. I know. But I started to turn left. And you said, turn right. I said, well, you didn't tell me what way to turn. But the name of the street I told you to turn on only went to the right, which was towards the school. You could see the school. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Well, anyway, the thing about it was you, you said, I can't believe you're like this. And I said, why can't you believe I'm like this? It's been 31 years. I haven't changed. Just get over it. I'm not going to, I'm not very good at remembering directions. So you, you're the driver.
Like, like when we go someplace and i'm not driving and i'm not paying attention then i won't remember how to get there the second time but when i drive somewhere i know but that's you it's like a tactile experience you remember it no you remember it anyway so this is this is the frame of mind that we get to the restaurant to meet our super sexy friends yeah so yeah i mean while we're although i have to give you credit though uh part of what we're doing when we're remodeling this basement is we're uh buying new furniture so we got a new bed to put in our red room and put it together and it was easy because it came you got it on amazon and it came in the mail and the and the mattress was like freeze-dried and shrink- shrink wrapped and everything.
It was a memory foam mattress. It was like one of those toys you get the kids and you split, it's a sponge and you put it in the bathtub and it explodes. Right. And when you cut the plastic off of this thing, it just opened right up. And it's actually a really comfortable mattress. Yeah, it is. And we'll talk more about that in a minute. But then you wanted to get a sectional.
And I was dreading going furniture shopping because typically what happens when you take me furniture shopping is you think you know what you want and then we get to the furniture store and you find it and then you make me go up and down every other aisle in the furniture store anyway and then you make me go to two or three other furniture stores also we can come back to the first furniture store and buy the thing that we looked at first well buying furniture is an investment you can't you can't just like buy the first thing because you don't know if it's the best price you don't know if you can find something a better quality for less money what i'm saying is this time you didn't do that i'm giving you a compliment because on the way to the furniture store you were online i had done a lot of on your phone and you found a sectional that you really liked and you said oh when we get there if they i really like this one and it's the right price so we walked in and the sales guy with the plaid coat and the green tie and the slick back hair and the cheap cologne comes racing up to the door when mr jones is actually pretty accurate in that description i can't even defend the guy so you know we found what we wanted and the salesman wandered away and then you made me walk the whole rest of the store which was fine and then but here's where you you really scored some points with me we came back to the sofa and you said i think i want this one and i said what no more furniture stores and you said no i really like this one well it looked better in person than it did online and this is the point where um then you said well i don't have to buy it here we can i can buy it online on the way home because it's the same price and you're gonna have to pick it up anyway i said but you have to sit on it first like mr jones will buy furniture and he won't sit on it well but that's why you buy furniture no that's not on it no honey that's not why we bought this furniture if you wanted me to test out the furniture i would have had to have thrown you down on it that's the only way we could have tested it well you have to just sit on it and then use your imagination so i sat on the furniture and he rolled his eyes and then you said um that we could buy it online so the first thing i did was like like scoped out where the salesman was because in a situation like that when you're trying to i knew i was going to try to make a break for the door and you like cue the jaws music because you know when they see you you're walking to the door and then they see you and they start walking to the door and you start walking faster because you know if you make it to the parking lot it's a safe zone but fortunately he was tied up with another customer and we made it out the door we did and then you got in the car I don't know.
because you know if you make it to the parking lot it's a safe zone but fortunately he was tied up with another customer and we made it out the door we did and then you got in the car and on and you bought it on the way home it was great yeah and then i picked it up this past weekend which brings us all the way back to our friends coming over because we had just put the sofa down here yes it was fresh it was fresh just hours off the truck yeah so we had dinner with them and in town and then we we came we all four came back to the house and that was a quick transition too we just came right to the basement i don't think we've ever played a game with them we don't need to no yeah things just naturally get started this is just one of those couples that we just click with yes yeah and so we came downstairs and soon as she saw saw the sofa she said oh i can think of oh you could do this to me and and we could do this and i can so right away my head is spinning because she's coming up with all these ideas and we haven't even made it into the bedroom yet so the four of us then she and i went into the bedroom and you you two of course just like last time you know he delayed you and you I think I got thrown down on the carpet well in the family room yeah yeah and I was telling you to get on the ceramic towel because you were you were dripping I was like get off the new carpet you all get over there on the ceramic towel just put this carpet down some details just aren't necessary,.
Jones so she and I went into the bedroom and started playing and that was a lot of fun so for a brief moment there we were separated we were because he and I didn't make it into the bedroom right away like you guys turned the bedspread down and got the little sex blanket out and yeah and you guys were yeah I went down on her and we started playing and i missed all that yeah but well i was busy though yeah but eventually you two came in and then we started playing and she's straight and really you know i have to say by now she and i do some stuff together yeah but she's mostly straight don't take that away from me no no she's definitely definitely into you well that's what i mean when it's a bi-curious or bisexual woman i always wonder how much of the attraction is for me and how much of it is for you and but but this woman is primarily into guys and so i i'm the benefit i take all the credit for her being attracted to us so anyway the four of us were going to town on the bed.
And at one point in time, he was with you and he was going at you pretty hard. And all of a sudden, crack, the bed cracked. And we said, well, good thing that we were, what did you call this? A test cruise? It was a shakedown cruise. Good thing this is a shakedown cruise. You have to have good friends to try out a bed the first time. So he got up real quick and righted the bed temporarily. We just kind of actually scooted over because there was no riding the bed. Yeah, so at that point in time, though. Just one of the corners just sunk down.
Yeah, and she and I got up because she had to come out and use the restroom.
And this bedroom, it's a really nice big bedroom's got the double doors and we had the double doors wide open and then outside the double doors is the um wet bar and the like the rec room area so i was standing at the bar drinking a bottle of water and i was watching you two but i was not in the room i was just watching and while she was in the restroom and then when she came back she was eyeballing the couch and she said I really want to try this position on the couch and and I had already had an orgasm but when she said that I'm like okay I'm game and she put her knees up on the she kneeled towards the back of the sofa put her elbows on her husband and I were still on the bed having a good time.
Yeah, so I was in her doggy style. She was on the sofa. And for a brief moment there, for a few moments, we were actually technically in separate rooms. Right, because the sofa was around the corner. I mean, just barely. It was right outside the room. And we could hear you and you could hear us. Yeah, so we finished. and then we came out and we were watching you guys. Yeah. And that was fun. That was a lot of fun. Yeah. That was fun. Yeah. So she and I went at it for a while there and I'll save the rest of it because I think you're going to talk more about this. Yes. At our snapshot. Yes.
Anyway, we, we were standing there going at it and you guys came out of the bedroom and you were both standing there, you know, he kind of had his arm around you and you were standing side by side and you were watching. So I felt like I had like a, my own personal audience. You did. You did. We were enjoying it. It was fun. So anyway, did we miss anything there or? No, I think that was a lot of keeping up with the Joneses. Yeah, it was. So when we come back, we're going to get into our topic, which is Eyes Wide Open. And we're going to talk about the risks and the rewards of the lifestyle.
The sexy rewards. Yes, the sexy rewards. Thank you. welcome back to segment two of our podcast tonight um our title this month is called eyes wide open and we decided to talk about some of the risks involved in being in the lifestyle. We have gotten a lot of questions from our listeners about how we manage STIs, the risk of getting STIs as we open up our relationship into the lifestyle. So, you know, Mr.
Jones and I have had to kind of really reflect on that, you know we're very aware of the risk but you know how do we really process it and and you know how how much research do you need to do as an individual i think that um everybody kind of handles it differently but the the bigger picture that we were seeing as people were asking about the risk of STIs, well, we started conversation and said, well, there's more than just a risk of STIs. There's all kinds of risks as you step into the lifestyle. So we broke it down into four categories, right?
Yeah, so we want to talk about STIs, obviously, but also pregnancy is a risk. The risk to your relationship, which we've talked about before, so we won't talk about that one for very long. And then there's a risk of being found out, you know, being, you know, that you're in the lifestyle and somebody's going to find out. So those are the four risks that we decided to talk about tonight. And, you know, just, you know, before we, you know, get into it, I mean, our philosophy on this is to educate.
I mean, we educated ourselves and, you know, we believe in safe sex, we believe in testing and, and we did research as a couple before on each of these four.
And, you know, honestly, we probably did more after we got into, you know, we did the more we learned about the lifestyle and, you know, the more we did research, but, you know, we, we want you to know that we think it's really a conversation that the two of you or if you're a single that you need to really think about and research you know yourself and make an informed decision and so hopefully this conversation tonight will just help you understand how we approached it and then you can take it from there and then we're going to talk about some of the rewards that offset those risks. Yeah.
Right. Yeah. Because you don't want to leave it all one sided or we, cause we're not trying to scare anybody away. We're just trying to, you know, talk about it in balance. Right. Right. I mean, that's what it is. It's a balance. Right. And I think sometimes when people email us and they don't really come out and say this, but it's almost like they almost like some people are waiting for us to say it's okay for you to take the risk. And that's not on us. That's not our role. No, definitely not. Yeah. So why don't we just, do you want to start with STIs then? Sure. Okay.
I mean, because we, you know, the CDCs, let's just put that out there. I mean, we'll put this website on our show notes, but the CDC, the Centers for Disease Control has a wonderful website on all the STIs and there's fact sheets and there's detailed fact sheets and there's summarized fact sheets. And we would recommend that you go there to start with and educate yourself just in your own home and talk about that because there's a different level of risk.
And, you know, so what we've decided is that we use condoms for, you know, for a full swap, but we don't use any kind of barriers for oral sex. and i mean i i'm not gonna lie the, when you go to the CDC website, I mean, every single type of disease that you can get through sexual transmission basically says the only way you can be sure to not catch this is to not have sex. That's right. Yeah. That's your baseline. I mean, I'm laughing, but it's really, that's not funny. Yeah. So, I mean, there's a risk no matter what.
And most of these infections can be transmitted not only vaginally through penetrative sex, but through oral sex and just some of them even touching, you know, it, it's, um, it, it makes it look really scary. Yeah. I mean, so, so really it's common sense and education, right? You know, I mean, educate yourselves, uh, talk to your doctors, get yourselves tested and, and, you know, we'll kind of summarize this when we get to the end of it, but really there's not much more.
I mean, we, we've been fortunate and we'll talk about that too, you know, how we choose couples and that, you know, that's all part of it. So, you know, we don't want to really get into, uh, you know, falling into a trap of talking about these diseases because we're not medical experts. Um, but we really want to put it on you as a couple and you both have to have a level of comfort, um, you know, to decide where you're going to start and what your rules are going to be. Right. I mean, Mr. Jones and I do not use any kind of protection when we engage with oral sex with other people. Yeah.
Um, you know, there's dental dams to use. Some people will bring a roll of saran wrap with them and, and put that down or, or give, um, a guy a blow job when he has a condom on. And if that's your comfort level and it's the other couple's comfort level, then that's fine. I think most, well, not most, all couples that we've played with have chosen not to use any kind of barrier with oral sex. That's right. And honestly, I don't know how enjoyable it would be for me. And I'm not saying it wouldn't be enjoyable if you use those things.
But for me, I'm not in the mindset that I would find that enjoyable. It would be such a, I guess, I don't want to say a barrier, but a hindrance or whatever. Right. would it would be such a um i guess a i don't want to say a barrier but a hindrance or whatever right that it would be distracting i think from the the pleasure that's right it's more distracting right yeah so that's stis and we've been fortunate um you know that we're healthy so far so good i mean we're two years in right that doesn't mean it could happen tomorrow. And, you know, it's always there. Yeah.
So, I mean, pregnancy, this really won't take long because everybody should be well educated on this. Yes. But I think the thing that I wanted to bring up is, you know, you and I have been married for a long time. You got a vasectomy, what, like 10 years ago? So I completely stopped worrying about birth control birth control. Yeah.
You know, actually I didn't trust you for a couple of years and I stayed on the pill, but you know, so then when we got back in the lifestyle, I had to make sure that I was aware of the fact that, um, even though I'm not super young anymore, I'm still able to get pregnant because condoms aren't a hundred percent safe. Yeah. So just keep that in mind. Don't forget about pregnancy. Um, and then of course there's the risk to your relationship. And we've talked about this before. And I think, I think this is the biggest one, right? Uh, because you just, you just never know.
You've really got to be careful with this one. And we've had listeners tell us, and we've talked about the fact that we're playing with fire and, you know, married 29 years before we got into this lifestyle. And, you know, we had a great marriage, we had a great sex life and, you know, why should we take this plunge when we're so happy and, and why take the chance of damaging that? And that's really something that every individual couple needs to consider because I think that's the biggest risk.
You know, we get a lot of feedback from our listeners, and I think that's the most critical feedback we ever got. The listener didn't say we were doing anything wrong, but he said, I hope you guys just remember that you're playing with fire. And he's absolutely right. I mean, we do need to remember that and we need to be very respectful of the risk that we're taking and not ever take it too lightly. Yeah. You know, so I mean, you and I have had a couple of communication glitches along the way.
And in the scheme of things, they've been minor for for you and I, they've kind of been a bucket of cold water on our faces. Um, but it hasn't done any damage to our relationship. But I, you know, in a way I think it might be good that we have those glitches every now and then cause it wakes us up and it makes us step back and say, Oh, you know, we're getting overconfident or, you know, whatever. Right. Yeah.
And we've gotten a couple of emails and i've i have to say that it's they're from the guys i've gotten a couple emails from the husbands who have been asking us um you know his wife their wives are a little bit behind them and they're positive they would like it and how can i talk them into it and and immediately i respond and say you know what you that's the wrong approach if you have to talk somebody into something right uh your relationship is not ready for it and they could be absolutely right maybe their wives will have a great time someday yeah but they you know they have to figure out a way to get to get you know in that same step you know.
So be careful with, with that. Um, and the last thing that we want to talk about before we get to the rewards is being found out. Yeah. And that's the scary one. Yeah. And a lot of people think, uh, about this, about even starting some people that email us are not in the lifestyle. Some people that email us are in the lifestyle, but they don't have a profile on a website because they're afraid to. Some people have a profile on the website, but don't put face pictures. There's all these progressions of risks that you're willing to take to put yourself out there.
And remember, you know, when you and I started this, we were the same way. I mean, we didn't want to, we didn't, we were petrified when we got emails from people that lived near us. Right. I know. Because we thought we're going to know these people. We're going to be found out. Yeah. So, you know, we, we evolved though through that. Um, you know, so the risk of being found out is always going to be there, but you know, as long as you don't start a podcast, you know, you're, you're relatively low, right?
You know, the risk is, and if you run into somebody, you know, and you've heard us and other podcasters talk about that, well, I mean, they're in it too. They're in it too. That's right. I won't tell if you won't tell.
Right won't tell right so the main thing is that you know again with all four of these the reason you know you've got to talk amongst each other the two of you you've got to come to an agreement but then once you make that agreement and you start into the lifestyle come back and revisit these things to see how you're growing and what your comfort level is because your perspective is going to change, you know, and you're going to grow as you're, as you're getting into this. And so the other reason that we decided to talk about risk tonight is because, uh, we were outed. Yeah.
One of, one of my friends, uh, found out about our our podcast yes and so this this was this risk thing was a very real thing for us because so far through the lifestyle we've been able to keep our podcast and our lifestyle separate from uh our real vanilla lives right And I'm not really going to get into how he found out because that's really not important. I'll just say that he didn't stumble across it. Somebody told him about it and it, um, you know, it made us realize that especially me, because I see him often and he's a good friend.
Um but really you know we were able to keep these two worlds separate and now there's an intersection of them coming together and so having to you know deal with this which again not too many people do podcasts and and we are really risking a whole lot more than normal because our voices are out there right and we tell stories and some of our stories can indicate where we are and you know approximately where we live and what we do and so the you know but the bottom line is we've accepted the risk and you know we we understood that this day might happen and, and it happened and we're still alive.
Yeah. And you know, the thing about it was Mrs. Jones, I have to, I have to say, I'm really, cause we talked about this when I interviewed you on episode 14 too. Remember I said, you know, if we were found out, I said that I did not want to be found out. Yeah. So anyway, I came home and And I told you that he knew. And, you know, of course you, there's a little bit of embarrassment. Well, first of all, everybody has an assumption of how people are going to react if they were to find out.
And that goes for your employer, um, your family, your kids, your parents, you know, the community, your best your church, church you know there's assumptions that it's not going to go over well or that oh my gosh i'm going to get fired or we're going to get kicked out of the church our family's going to excommunicate but really until it happens that's a perception and you may be right but you may not be right and in this case i was pleasantly yeah surprised yeah it went better we could have anticipated. Yeah, I mean, he's a good friend anyway.
And really, if I were to have a short list of people that I would have told this to, he would have been on that list just because he's a really close friend. Anyway, there was no judgment. You know, we talked about it a lot. He's very accepting of it. It's not anything that he or his wife are interested in. So at the end of the day, you know, it turned out that I've, that I had a fear that was unfounded. But you, on the other hand, I mean, and even you said, you know, I was a little bit of, well, I'll let you say.
Well, after the initial shock, I mean, I remember when you told me, I remember like the tips of my fingers tingling, you know, you, you get that like, yeah, let's shut down the podcast. I know, I know. But, um, I think the thing that bothered me the most is that I have a lot of respect for your friend and his wife, well, our friend and his wife.
And, um, you know, just the fact that they listened to our podcast and they, and we talk about having sex on our podcasts and sometimes we go into detail and, and just the fact that they heard that and, you know, I'm, that doesn't make me super proud, I guess. Um, but the biggest thing I realized after, you know, a couple of days went by and I had time to process it was that I was more upset that they knew about our podcast and the fact that we're in the lifestyle and that we have sexual relations with other people, that wasn't really what I was embarrassed about.
It was a fact that they had the opportunity to listen to our escapades on our podcast. I mean, on one hand, I'm very proud of our podcast because I really do think we do our best effort at keeping it balanced and keeping it, you know, on the up and up and, and trying to, to help people make informed decisions about the lifestyle, you know? So that part makes me proud, but to have somebody outside that, that isn't interested. Yeah. So now, now this, this kind of Venn diagram, there's an overlap between my vanilla life and my lifestyle life.
And I'm learning how to live there because every time I see him, like normally he would say, hey, what are you doing this weekend? Well, now I'm still honest with him, but I'm like, well, okay, we're going out with friends. And I know that he knows, but I want to be honest with him. And I think it's going to be good to have somebody on the outside, you know, as a confidant and, you know, that can talk about this from the outside and hold me accountable. I mean, he's really, he's a good friend. He's, he's the type of friend that I would, you know, a true friend that are honest with you.
They hold you accountable. Um, they're nonjudgmental, you know, they listen, you know, so if somebody had to find out, um, you know, I'm not disappointed that it's him. I think it's going to be a good thing. So anyway, that's, that's a part of why we decided to do this podcast because it just happened to us just before we podcasted last time. Um, and we've had a few weeks to, to process everything, but anyway, let's get beyond the risks. Yeah. Yeah. Let's start talking about, there is a flip side to this. There are some sexy rewards. Definitely.
Um, so do we want to start with, um, uh, well, you know, one of the things that we talked about, let's just continue on with being found out. Okay. Because I had a similar reaction to you. I mean, I was embarrassed at first and, and, you know, maybe I shouldn't have been, but you know, honestly, I was embarrassed the same, same way you, you explained, you know, because they can hear us and listen to us. But immediately, almost immediately when, when the thought process went, okay, should I, should we quit the podcast? Should we get out of the lifestyle?
lifestyle I mean I'm just these questions are running through my head and then I stopped and I think and I thought of all of the friends that we have in the lifestyle yes and the people that really quickly I realized that three things popped into my head first of all all, the strength of our relationship. Our relationships is so much deeper now than before we got into the lifestyle. Secondly, we have some lifelong friends that we've played with and some that we don't play with and probably never will play with. And they're real people and they're real friends.
And the third thing is that we've had sexy fun with these people. But really, that was the third thing that came to mind. Yeah. So immediately I felt like justified that I'm not going to stop doing this. I can't stop doing this. This is real. I mean, our relationship is real and it's deep.
And our podcast, you know, is well intended and you know we try to do a good job to help people and you know then we've met these people and we've shared a lot of stuff real life stuff with people in the lifestyle and they're really true friends so it like almost immediately all of that went out of my mind about getting out because we've experienced so many benefits to our relationship. And really, that's the main reason we got in. Yeah, right. And you know, we we've made friends that yeah, we have sexy times with them. But at the same time, it's like, you know, we'll get a text.
Hey, we haven't seen you guys for a while, we have to catch up. Let's meet at a winery on Sunday. Not let's meet at a hotel and have sex, although that might not be bad either. But, you know, let's meet at a winery and bring a picnic basket of cheese and crackers and just catch up. And that is so much fun. It doesn't have to be about sex. Now, did we talk about sex at the winery? Yeah, I think we did. Yeah. And you know, this ties right back into the STIs and the pregnancy thing, because the people that we choose to play with, I mean, let's keep everything in the proper perspective.
If you're the type of person that wears a dusk mask in public when you go on an airplane, you're probably not going to be comfortable in the lifestyle. Right. This is not for germaphobes, I guess. So that's one thing. Although I think the people that we play with are pretty well-groomed and have good hygiene. That's what I'm getting at. Right. I mean, the people that we choose to play with, there's no guarantee that they're disease-free, but it's more likely that they are.
The other thing is, I mean, if you work, if you're an educator, you work in a clinic and you see STIs all the time, your bias is going to be towards, oh my gosh, I would never do that. I don't want to take this chance. But if you think about the people that are coming in there and why they're coming in there, they're not lifestyle people. Chances are, right.
You know, these are people that have either they're uneducated or they made bad decisions or they cheated on somebody or, you know, they're young and they don't understand, you know, where that's not what the people that we choose to be with are not like that in the lifestyle. Right. So let's, you know, keep things in their proper perspective. And, you know, the thing about the couple that we had the fun with, just that we were mentioning in our basement, you know. You mean that we broke the bed with? Yeah. Oh, by the way, the next day. Oh, yes. Yeah. I swinger proof that bad boy.
I mean, I think we could get eight people in there. Mr. Jones, I swear you should put a picture of that bed on the website with all the screws in it. I took the mattress off, and it only had like four screws in each section. We didn't break the slats. I mean, I put like three times as many screws through that thing, and I put the mattress back. You could have, I'm thinking, six or eight people easier. Yeah, so our friends texted us, and the next day, Mr. Jones was like, I'm fixing the bed.
And they're like, well, make it so that it can hold eight people yeah so our friends texted us and the next day mr jones was like i'm fixing the bed and they're like well make it so that it can hold eight people and i was like eight people yeah yeah whatever happened to six so anyway sorry about that but i did fix the bed yes yeah so so the shakedown cruise was definitely worth it but anyway you know you know, back to our coming full circle, back to our reconnection sex after they left. And we talked a lot about them.
And and people have emailed us and asked us or they say they have difficulty finding couples that you connect with. You know, just understand. Be picky. Take your time. take your time, be patient, do this together because this couple and a lot of other couples that we've met, but it's specifically, I'm talking about the couple that we just played with. They've been married, what, 25 years or they are so much fun.
They are so in love with each other and our relationship is so strong and their relationship is so strong that there's never that's why we were able to do separate room with them because there's no worry at all about there's no worry about STIs there's no worry about jealousy there's no you know there's none of that well you know on the way home from the restaurant, um, we split up. I mean, I rode home with him and, and she rode home with you because that way we didn't, they didn't have to rely on GPS to get back to our house. That was one of the reasons.
Well, that was one of the reasons I know he and I didn't really talk about anything sexy. It took what, 20 minutes to get home.
I, we didn't talk about about anything sexy at all we were talking about his job and my job and we had kind of an overlapping theme we work in two different careers but we had an overlapping theme that we really connected with and and we were talking about almost kind of like nerdy stuff all the way home and what a shock oh i know i'm sorry but it it was just it was really cool because we didn't stop talking the whole way either i mean they're just so easy to be around and if i had ridden home with her it would have been the same way yeah well and she and i did the same thing we talked about running because she's a runner yeah you know a lot of the time coming home so yeah we never even talked about anything sexy either i mean i think we I hold hands a little bit but you know i admire them so much as individuals and as a couple yeah the sex is just like i mean you have sex with them it's like wow that's just like the total icing on the cake so that that is the whole that's the reward yeah when you find a couple like that i mean we have other good friends and we've had other good times but but they're you know there's one or two couples that i think you'll find after you're in this at a while that really really connect with you and make you feel comfortable and this couple did that and so the reward that the bottom line here is the rewards that we are experiencing through our relationship.
And it's just well worth, we believe, it's well worth the risk that we take. Yes. And as far as the podcast goes, I mean, obviously, we would quit the podcast first before we quit the lifestyle. Yes.
But you all that have been sending us emails, the the reason that we do this and we've said this before but the the reward that we got of this we're not monetizing this we're you know we're not you're not going to see advertisements all over we're not asking people for money we're just trying to make a difference we're just trying to educate people um you know we're trying to our message is this is fun it can deepen your relationship if you do it the right way or if you if you all figure out the right way to do it and move forward um we just hope that somebody experiences what we're experiencing and that's the purpose of the podcast we just want to share it because it's um like mr jones said it it has totally transformed our relationship that was already good to begin with.
And I think everybody notices the difference in us. Not in a sleazy way, but I think we're just connected. And I think our family notices it. Our vanilla friends notice it. I think our employers notice it. I think we've just become very confident, connected people. I think we communicate with everybody better now. Yes. I think we're much more insightful to the other person's perspective, much more so than we, than we were before. Definitely. So the bottom line here, Mrs. Jones is what, I mean, we, I mean, the risk is there.
I mean, it, you know, go, go into the CDC website and looking at all the STIs. It's scary. It really is. But you know, I remember being, um, like right out of high school and when magic johnson first um got sick and he announced that he had hiv i just remember thinking that that was the end of the world but luckily our medical field has ways to manage things now and to educate us so that we can can practice safer sex there is no such thing as safe sex unless you don't have sex, I guess. Yeah. But, you know, if you're as safe as you can be within the comfort level that you have. Yes.
Then, you know, you're at least making an informed decision and, and practicing a risk that you're aware of. Right.
And so anyway, thank you all for the feedback that you give us because really um the reason it was so easy to not even think about stopping the podcast is because of the relationships that we're making and connecting with your listeners and the feedback the emails are incredible and like every once in a while there'll be a day where we don't get an email from anybody because like that's our deal we like eat dinner together and mr jones always brings his ipad to the table and he keeps it closed until after we're finished eating and we've talked about our day and then i'll say well i have some emails to read you so that i think it was like yesterday the day before i said so you know what emails did we get and you said it was a quiet day we didn't get any emails it was kind of sad but you know there's a few emails that we've gotten lately though where people have said you know we got we got in the lifestyle because of sad.
But, you know, there's a few emails that we've gotten lately, though, where people have said, you know, we got we got in the lifestyle because of you. Or, you know, we've gotten a few that have said you've made a difference in our relationship and we're not even in the lifestyle. I mean, it's things like that that are feedback to us that make the podcast worth the risk. Right. so, um, I guess this is a good time to, to plug more emails because we, I mean, especially me, I mean, I'm the one that replies to most of them.
So, you know, feel free to reach out and, you know, tell us, and we're not really interested for you to, we don't want to hear how much you like the podcast. That's okay. But we really want to know our listeners.
We want to know something about you and, you know, can continue to do that and you we don't want to hear how much you like the podcast that's okay but we really want to know our listeners we want to know something about you and you know can continue to do that and you know everybody's got a great story yeah you're not just the best you're not overwhelming us you're not stalking us we're just normal people down here on a tuesday night in the mid-atlantic in our basement talking into the microphones and we got to finish up because we got to go to bed and get up to work the next day.
So we're just a normal couple and we hope that we're approachable. And so we really ask that you continue to do that because that really motivates us. So anyway, the risk for us is worth the reward. And hopefully the... I think you said that backwards. The rewards are worth the risk did i yeah you you said the risk is worth the reward okay let me say that the rewards are worth the risk yes is that better the sexy rewards are worth and the meaningful friendships and the relationship so um, that's about all we have to say. Educate yourselves and go have fun. And when we come back.
We have some snapshot time. All right.
okay well goody goody gumdrops it's time for some snapshots yay yay so we have two listener snapshots tonight and then we have each of our own special snapshots and we could use some fresh snapshots yes yeah and we've gotten a couple people that ask hey we're not in the lifestyle can we send you snapshots and the answer to that is yes absolutely yeah if you're listening to our podcast that qualifies you to send in the snapshot definitely yeah so we got a couple of really good snapshots yes we do and i'm gonna go first okay um and then mrs jones has one that fired her up a little bit just a bit yeah so this snapshot is very short and it's from it's part of a longer message that we got from listeners.
Um, so this is the very end of their email and I'll just read it to you. Finally, a funny thing happened at Bible study this week. Oh, geez. I think it's really cool that we're doing a snapshot that has Bible study. I know. Slightly ironic. Anyway, let me start that over again. Finally, a funny thing happened at Bible study this week. My wife and I go to Bible study together. As the group was having a discussion about the topic, our leader was talking about how some people are always trying to keep up with the Joneses. We looked at each other and just smiled. Isn't that funny?
And, you know, we find things like that all the time, like little phrases people say in the vanilla world. And we kind of look at each other. But that's exactly how we started. I mean, that's exactly why we titled our podcast what we did.
You know, we had the song and then keeping up with the jones it's just it's so it's it's just out there so it was just too easy to go i mean i you know that's one of those times in church where after they say that and you snicker you kind of cringe like you might be struck up by lightning i know exactly anyway that that was really he didn't even intend that to be a snapshot but when i read that emailed him back and I said, hey, we got to use this as a snapshot. That's just too funny. So, okay, your turn. Okay, here we go. And Mrs.
Jones got a little bit, you got a little bit fired up about this. I'm going to get a little fired up again. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. So, this snapshot was sent to us from actually friends of ours that live in New Orleans. And they were at Colette one night. Again, our favorite club because it's our only club, at least for another month. Yes. And we've played with this couple. Yes. So these couple. Set the stage.
This is a good friends of ours yes so they were at call at one night and here is their snapshot so out of nowhere an older couple walks up to us and proclaims that they came over to chat us up we thought great this never happens then they say we are the last over 50, attractive, in shape, full swap couple in the US. It's great to meet you. Okay, so I have to interject. So the first thing that goes through my mind is baloney. No, that's not what you said. You said bullshit. Did I say bullshit? Well, seriously, come on. That's quite a line. Okay, so let me keep going. So it's great to meet you.
So both of us look at each other and could tell that we were both thinking the same thing. That's definitely not true. That's right. I think they might have been thinking of us. Yeah, I think so. So after a few minutes, we start to notice exactly how intoxicated they were. They asked about our play for preferences, and we explained that we were soft swap. Then they said the words that ended any future interactions we might have with them, if we could get past the intoxication part. They said, oh, you're not real swingers, then soft swap couples don't count as real swingers.
oh my gosh it was not a joke he was not being cute or playful we politely tried to continue the conversation for a few more minutes but it was obvious that both couples were not interested in each other while we understand we aren't exactly what they were looking for being called not real swingingers was an interesting label. I think he's being polite when he says interesting label. Oh my gosh. That's the opposite. That gives swingers just a bad name. It does. Especially like older, over 50, attractive, in shape, full swap couple in the US. Well, they haven't met the Joneses yet. There you go.
I know. Oh, my gosh. And then to say you're not a real swinger if you only do soft-swap. Yeah. They have obviously never played with our friends because we did soft-swap with them. It was amazing. It was, yes, highly rewarded. Talk about sexy rewards. That was one of them. Yes. Yes, it was. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, that takes a lot of nerve. I know. And to just alienate that many people just by saying you're not real swingers if you're soft swap. Yeah, but kudos to our friends. And we've gotten other people that have found themselves in situations like this. And just stand up for yourself. Yes.
You know, just roll your eyes and walk away. I know. Because that's ridiculous. Let's do it. other people that have found themselves in situations like this and just stand up for yourself yes you know just roll your eyes and and walk away because that's ridiculous that is not how you know there are people out there that represent the lifestyle like this but um we don't find many of them well i guess yeah maybe we somehow you, managed to avoid them, luckily. But I don't know. That just gives swingers a bad name. And that just takes me back to the Leisure Suit Larry, you know, fishbowl.
Well, I even think that they're using their age as kind of an intimidating factor. Like, you know, we're experienced. We're older than you. We're in good shape. Yeah, we'll show you a good time. Yeah, we'll show you a good time. But you're not real swingers. Anyway, that was, yeah, you got really fired up yeah that one yeah yeah bullshit might not have been the only thing i said that's craziness yeah okay so it's my turn yes and again mr jones has a extremely non-sexy snapshot but you do that a lot i know but you're gonna go last last. So you're going to end this. I'll make up for it. Yeah.
So again, the snapshot is defined as something that happens that's lifestyle related. That is one of those images that you just can't get out of your mind. It can be funny. Um, it can be shocking. It'd be sexy. Um, you know, it can be whatever it is. And we should also say, you know, it doesn't have to be lifestyle related. It could just be, you know, a sexy time between a couple. Yes. So having said all of that, my snapshot going back to being found out is when I'm sitting across the table from my friend and he says, we know about your podcast.
And at at that point in time I tried to remain cool and calm and and I think I did a pretty good job of it but you know I just I'll never forget that one moment and because nobody's at least admitted that they know about this before so to be confronted like that and to have somebody say, I know about your podcast, it really, that image and that conversation has burned into my brain. I can only imagine. Yeah. So, um, anyway, we, um, we talked about that and we don't have to go back into it, but it was definitely one of those times when, you know, it's, it's, um, you'll never forget that.
No, no, I'll never forget that image of being told that, but Thank you. definitely one of those times when you know it's it's um you'll never forget that no no i'll never forget that image of being told that but but that's okay i mean i think it's gonna work out yep yeah i'm so sorry about that um cold bucket of water snapshot well i'll warm things back up for you baby yeah i was So gosh, you know, I, there are again, multiple snapshots running through my mind and you know, the single guy thing just is burned into my brain.
But I think as far as, because a single guy thing, you know, I'm experiencing it. So I don't really get to see it. You know, I can only like look up at him or, or look over at you. But as far as me actually having like a literal picture in my head, it goes back to last weekend with our friends in the basement here. And when you and she were breaking in the new sofa. So she decided that a good way to test out the sofa was for her to kneel on the Thank you. breaking in the new sofa.
So she decided that a good way to test out the sofa was for her to kneel on the sofa, doggy style, and then hold on to the back of it. And then she wanted you to go in from behind. And you did that. And that was when she said, you can't fuck me too hard.
Her husband and i had made it out of the bedroom by then i think that was like about when we came out right we we caught up with you guys at that point in time right and you were like game on man i was like okay i think i i'm still cpr certified i think i can like handle it so what did it look like it was hot oh my gosh because she is We'll be right back. or I'm still CPR certified. I think I can like handle it. So what did it look like? It was hot. Oh my gosh. Because she is really, she's built just like you actually. You're both really tall and lean and you're all legs.
So she's kneeled on the sofa and she has long blonde hair. So her hair's falling in front of her face and she's holding on for dear life.
And then you're just behind her just like knocking her and and she was able she's a strong girl she was able to take it and um it was crazy yeah i mean it it was um it was better than porn because first of all you you guys both have beautiful bodies so i mean it was fun to look at from that regard but i mean there was some like serious like uh like competitiveness between the two of you yeah so a couple things about that well first of all i'm glad that you that would have been my snapshot so i'm glad you picked that one to have a sexy one because i really like that one too but the other thing i could tell that she and i joked about because we're both runners as i said you know if we would if i would have had my garmin and my heart rate monitor on i would have been anaerobic all the time and maybe redlined yeah no kidding during that i'd like to see that work out on that maximum heart rate yeah definitely did that the other thing is, and you and I were talking about this when you were telling me about this snapshot.
Um, I mean, you, you said it better than I can, but, but you were saying the fact that you can stand there and watch just literally feed away me with this beautiful woman and her saying things like that and me doing this. And then the next night you and I are just so strongly connected. And remember we were in bed and we were laying there and you had, you had really an emotional moment, you know, and when we were in bed that night and, and we were talking about this and you said, this makes no sense. How does this make any sense? I just watched you.
I mean, she's beautiful.'s a very talented runner and you know you so you guys have that in common i mean you guys have so much in common and then you're and her body is absolutely perfect i mean she so to watch you two together it was just incredible like the visual of it was incredible i i almost wish i would have taken a picture of it because it was that incredible. But I don't need to take a picture. It's right in my brain. But then to say that it brought us closer doesn't make any sense. No, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't add up. I can't explain that to my girlfriends. Yeah. No. Right.
And that's really one of the hard things to tell, you know, like when my friend my friend found out you know it's hard to tell people things like that because it makes no sense right at all but but again going back to the risk and reward and especially with this couple they have such a strong relationship so you know be patient you know find that couple that works best for you and you know have have a good experience and enjoy it because what did you say when i interviewed no one of our podcasts you said if you're not having fun you're not doing it you're not doing it right yeah i mean swinging is supposed to be fun yeah you know and and i mean i i wasn't exactly like um bored standing there watching you i just got and finished having fun with her husband who is also an extremely attractive, fun person.
Yeah, well, you were lame.
watching you i just got and finished having fun with her husband who um is also an extremely attractive fun person yeah well you you were late when you she and i were on the bed and you you two were going at it and you and and i told her i said i know mrs jones is enjoying herself when i see her ankles locked together around around the guy's waist so you guys were definitely having fun yes we were too so anyway so good luck to you all out there with your you're educating yourselves on the risks and the rewards of the lifestyle and yeah it's a lot to think about yeah it is and we hope this has been helpful so before we go um gosh we have a vanilla cruise coming up i know so we're going away this weekend to do our race with our vanilla friends yeah and then we have a vanilla cruise coming up.
I know. So we're going away this weekend to do our race with our vanilla friends. Yeah. And then we have a vanilla cruise coming up. Yes. But I think we might be able to like bookend that with a couple lifestyle things. You've got it. You've got a plan. I do. Oh, because we're going to meet some lifestyle friends the night before when we go to the hotel at the airport. We do park and fly a lot because all the D.C. airports, it's really expensive to park, and we don't live close, so you have to get up at like 3 o'clock in the morning.
So we like to go up and stay at a hotel because you just stay one night at the hotel, and then they let you leave your car there, and they shuttle you over. So we have friends near those. So we're going up to stay at a hotel, and we have friends that live near there. Yes. Yes. And then when we come back, we're staying in Miami an extra night and we're going to go to trapeze on Saturday. I think it's April 2nd. Something like that. Yeah. And we're going to spend time with the sapphic swingers and with maybe a couple of other friends there.
So you've got bookends, but you also did something else that was was pretty genius what um you booked a shore excursion for us at an adult only resort while we're on our cruise because you knew that if there are cruisers that go to the adults only uh shore excursion with us that they don't have kids with them right and that they're potential targets right right and that's on like wednesday or thursday yeah that's midweek yeah so we'll get so we still have time so you can scope them out on wednesday right and then move and if we meet anybody before that they can book this this excursion to it we didn't book it through the cruise line i i found it yeah online you know what's the fun of going on a lifestyle cruise there's swingers everywhere we're we're making this a challenge it's going to be a challenge yes we're packing our black rings and yeah Thank you.
What's the fun of going on a lifestyle cruise? There's swingers everywhere. We're making this a challenge. It's going to be a challenge, yes. We're packing our black rings, and we'll see what kind of trouble we can get into. Yeah, so we're looking forward to that. And also, we wanted to remind you all that we are doing We Got a Thing is going to have a meet and greet at Naughty in New Orleans, and a few of you have emailed us already.
But if you have not done so, and this is probably going to be wednesday afternoon of the event yeah like late afternoon yeah probably four or five o'clock in the afternoon before everything starts um so please send us an email at we got a thing at gmail.com if you want to come to our meet and greet and we would love we've got a couple of places scoped out and we're going to make a final decision and we'll have more details um later but if you're going to be there at nodding new orleans please send us an email let us know and you know we've had a few people that are going to meet us at pearl i know oh my gosh it's going to be so much fun yeah the 13th through the 21st and it's funny because people will email us and say is it okay if you know we come when you're that's the whole have a drink together?
Yeah, that's the whole idea. Isn't that what the hot tub's for? So if you're listening to this podcast and you're thinking about going to Pearl this summer, we're going to be there the August the 13th through the 21st. So please, um, consider going at that point in time and we'd love to meet you. Absolutely. There. Um, and the last thing that we'll mention is iTunes reviews. We got a couple more where we're approaching 50. Wow. That's pretty good. Yeah.
And if you go into, if you go into your iTunes account, you can actually change your, your screen name, you know, so that if you want to stay anonymous that when you, when you leave a review that your actual username doesn't come up, can do that I know some people might be concerned about that but anyway thank you all for taking the time to do that and we would appreciate anybody who wants to leave us a review on iTunes did I forget anything what else do we have coming up is that it well you know we are going to Cancun Memorial Day weekend oh yeah I forgot about that yeah we just I just snuck that one in on you yeah I kind of slipped it pipeline.
Well, we had plane tickets that we had to use before summer because we had canceled a trip last year. So we had airline tickets and you found, um, a deal at Temptations. Yes. Temptations is owned by the same company, Original Resorts, which owns Desire. And Temptation is, um, like in the Cancun, like hotel zone. So it's in Cancun proper where the two Desire resorts are like 20, 25 minutes south of the actual city. So we've never been there before. It's a bigger resort. I think there's like 300 and something rooms. It's not a couples only resort. And it's only a topless resort. That's okay.
So the men have to wear suits and the ladies have to wear bikini bottoms. So, but they still have like the sexy shows at night. They still, they're still known for, you know, the nice restaurants and the good drinks by the bars. We've never been there before. Yeah.
So it's just going to be Memorial weekend and and we're just going to go and and party yeah you know and then we'll do our sexy couples only desire trip in august yeah and it's the weather's warming up and our schedule is kicking in and we're really looking forward to all of those trips so hopefully you can join us and if not um if you come to dc let us That's right. We'll meet you for a drink or dinner or whatever. Join our Cassidy community or please continue to send us the emails. We really appreciate that. Our email address is wegotathing at gmail.com.
W-E-G-O-T-T-A-T-H-I-N-G, all one word, at gmail.com. Our website is wegotathing. And, you know, I put out a call for somebody who wanted to help us with a new website and i got a little nibble on that you did have somebody who's really interested this gentleman sounds like he knows what he's doing too so we're looking forward to hopefully redesigning a much better website sometime in 2016 so thank you for that follow us on twitter at we got a thing and if on Cassidy, join our Cassidy community. And if you join Cassidy through our website, the banner there, I believe you get three free months.
And then if you book your desire trip through the desire banner on our website, we get a little bit of a kickback on that. And that's certainly appreciated because you know what we're going to do with that money? What? We're going to reinvest it in a trip to desire. And you can put that in writing. Yeah, and we also have a link to, we're brand new, We Got a Thing is brand new on SDC and we really are just starting to figure that website out. Right, right. So, did I forget anything? So we're branching out. We are branching out. I think that that's plenty for this month, honey. Okay.
Well, thanks for joining us again. We are Mr. and Mrs. Jones, and we got a thing. What's your thing? Thank you. That was not sexy.