Episode 140: Back in the Swing of Things

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Speaker1: This podcast contains explicit language and content and is for mature audiences only. Hey, you teenagers out there. If you're under 18, this show is more for your parents. So now that you have that mental picture stuck in your head, put some music on and get back to doing your homework. We are a longtime married couple who's decided to chronicle our personal adventures and share our sex positive discussions as we navigate our way through the swinging lifestyle. Care to join us? Hello, everyone. I'm Mr. Jones. And I'm Mrs. Jones, and we want to welcome you to episode 140 of the We Got a Thing podcast. Back in the swing of things. Yes, we are. And we will talk more more about that in a bit. But first of all, we have a lot to catch you up on. We want to talk about our amazing trip to Greece. But first, we have a little bit of business to take care of. We now have the ability to offer quarterly memberships in our community. And we have a promo code. We haven't had a special or a discount on our community for quite some time. the rest of the month of September. If you want to give our premium membership a try, our promo code WGT930 through the end of September 930 because it goes through September 30th. So we are offering, first of all, the quarterly membership is already less expensive than the monthly by 10%. And so with this 30%, it's actually a pretty good deal. So if you want to give us a try, head on over to our website and you'll see the drop-down menu for join our community, select the quarterly membership, and use promo code WGT930, and we look forward to meeting you. Also, we're getting ready to go to Desire Pearl in a couple of months, and we've had a few people. This is the time of year where a lot of people decide they can't go. But we do have a few cancellations, so if you'd like to go with us this November, and that's November 15th through the 22nd of 2025. So if you'd like to join us, you have an opportunity to do so. So, Greece, we've been looking forward to this trip for a long time. Yep. Yeah, we talked about it a year ago, and then we eventually got around to booking it, and then I did my obsessive research, and you just kind of showed up. Right. Well, we went with friends. Yes. You had somebody helping you. It just wasn't me. Yes. We don't have a Costco around here. We used to talk about Costco a lot when we lived in Virginia. But now that we're down here, we don't talk. There's not one around. I know. It's depressing. But we booked this trip through Costco and they were right on the money. Yeah. I mean, it was like door-to-door service, basically. Yeah. All of our transfers were on time. There were people there to meet us from the hotels to the airports. And it was just, it worked like clockwork. So I have to give a shout out to good old Costco travel. And we aren't virgins when it comes to using ferries anymore. Like we're pros at it now. I mean, you know, I had this idea. When you said we were going to get on a ferry, I thought, you know, there would be 15 or 20 people on this. Like a water taxi? Yeah, like a water taxi thing. And we'd be sitting in a bench seat, rocking back and forth for a few hours. But these high-speed ferries, they're amazing. Yeah. Well, I mean, once you get on and get your seat, it's just like being on an airplane, except for better, because you can get up and walk around. Right. I mean, they had a snack bar. Like, all of our ferry trips were in the morning, so we would get a cup of coffee. And yeah, they're like airplane seats, only it's a whole lot wider than an airplane. But yeah. Yeah. And Athens was amazing. We don't have history in the United States. No, we don't. The Acropolis is like 2,500 years old. Yeah. It's just mind-boggling to think of how that thing was architected and how it was built over literally hundreds of years. Yeah. And how in the world it's, I mean, it's not obviously it's ruins, but there's a lot of it that's still standing. Yeah, we did a guided tour of it, and our tour guide was outstanding. And she told really good stories. Aunt Lydia. Yeah, her name was Lydia. And you and the other husband kept calling her Aunt Lydia. Well, because she had the garb on that Aunt Lydia wore. Well, I mean, she's outside. It was August in Greece, and she was outside all day. So yeah, so she had like a long dress on to get her skin covered up. Yeah. I mean, first of all, everybody we ran into was extremely friendly. And almost everyone we ran into spoke English. or spoke a little bit of English. I always felt safe because we walked around at night a lot. Yeah. Of course, there were four of us and there's safety in numbers. Yeah. But even in the one part of town where we went that wasn't so public, I still felt safe there. Yeah. When we went to the club, which. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We'll get to that. Yeah. The food was amazing. Yes. Service was amazing. Yeah, I didn't realize that Greece... I should have paid more attention in geography class. I didn't realize Greece is mostly just volcanoes. Well, yeah. I mean, the whole sea is basically islands that are a result of activity. But it's amazing anything grows there. But obviously, there's a lot of olive trees there. Yes. Yummy. And wineries and... I mean, the Greek salads, I've just fell in love with... I think I had Greek salad just about every night. We did. Yeah, I mean, we actually had one server tell us, you're ordering too much food. I'm going to bring you one. And then you share a main, you know, and he's like, if you're hungry, I'll bring you more. Yeah. And nobody was in a hurry to like turn our table over. Oh, that's what I loved about eating there is the wait staff would just stand back and you had to call them over. There was no rushing you, no trying to turn the tables over. But when you said you had to call the server over, that was to ask for the check at the end. like they weren't trying to kick us out to turn the table over i mean they were very attentive like when we needed wine or you know another course or dessert or and there were several times where at the end of the meal they brought us complimentary shots of mastika which is a greek liqueur i thought there was only like ouzo over there i thought that was like the only greek liquor but there's this liquor called mastika and it's kind of like the Greek version of Italian limoncello. You know, it's a digestive aperitif, and it's supposed to help your food settle at the end of a meal, and they make cocktails with it. It's just, it was delicious. Yeah, well, you ended up, I think we brought a bottle home. Yeah, I did. Yeah, so that was Athens, and then we went to Santorini. The most interesting thing to me about Santorini was the grapevines, because they don't have them, you know, in the U.S., and And in actually the rest of the world, you have grapevines in there. They're in rows and they're being held up by the guide wires, you know, so the grapes stay off the ground and stay aerated. Yeah. But in Santorini, the grapevines just lay on the ground. Oh, and they curl them up, you know, like grapevine wreaths, right, that you hang on your door or your wall or whatever. I guess that comes from the way they manage their grapes in Greece because it's so dry. It's amazing. We learned so much. We went on a wine tour. A private wine tour. Well, it ended up being a private tour because it was supposed to be a maximum of 12 guests. And when our driver picked us up at our hotel, he was like, you guys are the only four that signed up, so you have a private tour today. And he was a sommelier. And he took us to three different wineries, and one of them included a meal. And we learned how to say yamas. Yeah, cheers. So Santorini, if you're not familiar with it, it comes straight up out of the water. It's a mouth of a volcano. So it's shaped like a comma. And then there's another island across from it that kind of completes the circle of the mouth of the volcano. And so the edges of the island are straight up cliffs. And then the towns are built on top of it. So then it's just straight down to the water. And they build these. Like buildings like on these cliff faces. Yeah. So when you see the pictures of Santorini, that's what you're looking at is these buildings built like into the cliff faces. Well, it took us 10 minutes to get up the hill from where the ferry dropped us at the port to the top of the hill because of the switchbacks. Yeah. But anyway, then we went over to Mykonos. That's like the Ibiza, I think, of Greece, the Greek island. And we went, so we went to a beach club, was really a nice beach club and the cove it was like our own little private cove the water there was no hardly any waves at all the water was still the beach was amazing and we had a waiter and we ordered food and drinks all day and and then what what happened at that beach club is we we rented a cabana well the cabana we had we had it from 10 a.m all the way until 1 a.m the next morning right yeah because about five or six o'clock it's starts to turn into like a nightclub. Well, at five o'clock, the music changed. Well, they did a show. That's what they did. They did like a local, like a tribal kind of show, like at five o'clock. And then that's when the music changed. Yeah. And then it became, you know, the house music and the volume like tripled. Yeah. So we went from like this chill, like, and they played really nice music all day. And you could actually talk to each other. And then all of a sudden at 5 o'clock, you couldn't talk to each other anymore. Yeah. But the highlight, one of the highlights of my trip, not my snapshot. It's close, so I'll go ahead and tell it now. So we were at that beach club, and there were, I don't know, there were some kids there. When I say kids, I mean like in their 20s and maybe early 30s. Yeah, they looked more college or early professionals. There were a bunch of kids in front of us. I don't know where they got their money. But they were buying. Well, that group in front of us, they were having trouble paying at the end of the day. I think they were trying to get mommy's credit card to work or something. I don't know. But they kept ordering drinks and food. Anyway, off to the left was, there were about a half a dozen guys. There was seven to be exact. I'm sorry, seven. Somebody was paying attention. And we were with our friends. And our friend, she looked over. Well, we all looked over and they were doing a selfie. And so our friend said, oh my gosh. And she grabs you and she says, I need to be part of that. We need to be a part of that. So you were a little bit hesitant at first, but then you said, well, I'll go if you do all the talking. Yeah. So she drags you over there. And the next thing I know, we got some awesome pictures of the two of you. And I don't think those guys spoke any English. One of them did. One of them did? And the two of you were nested in the middle of these guys. We climbed onto their bed because they had a cabana too. Yeah. So we climbed right in the middle of the bed and there were these seven guys around us. And the guy took the selfie and the picture is amazing because every single one of those guys is smiling. They're all good looking guys. And there is you and our friend sitting in the middle. Right in the middle of them. Slightly older ladies. sitting in the middle of these these greek young greek goddess guys oh my gosh yes they were all very attractive yeah and very sweet they played along perfectly yeah yeah so we we had a good time in mykonos as well we stayed there longer didn't we my so when when the thing got canceled um when our catamaran got canceled what we ended up doing is going into town and there were of us. So each one of us got to pick a place to stop for either just a drink or some nibbles or a meal or whatever kind of like struck our fancy. And we all got to take turns and pick one place. And all four of us picked four very different places. And it was so much fun that night. Yeah. Yeah. I picked a Mexican place to get a margarita. It was a little bar. It was a mezcal bar. Mezcal bar. And where was the guy from? Lithuania. He was gorgeous. And I think he and his wife ran the place. Yeah. And he and we went in and sat there. There's a small bar and he he we were talking with him and he said yeah we bought this place and we come here for six months because I guess the island shut down for half of the year. Yeah. When it gets cold there. For the most part. So it opens in April May and then it closes down at the end of October. Yeah. So yeah he just serves drinks in that little bar there and we had a great time talking. And then he says he vacations for six months. Yeah. He said that's what they do. I mean he said we make all of our money in six months and then we vacation for six months. Yeah. And he said oh yeah you're American so you only get two weeks at a time. He said that's crazy. How can you do anything in two weeks? But yeah a lot of fun that night. And then we came back to Athens and so we went to a club. At the beginning of the trip. We have some friends in our community that told us we have to go to the 2 plus 2 club. So we the four of us decided we would go and it's in Athens. So like I don't know if this was the smartest decision. We flew overnight Thursday. Got there Friday morning. At 10. At 10. Got to our hotel but of course our room wasn't ready. So we went and found a rooftop bar. and we could look up at the Acropolis. That was amazing. And then we came back to our room and slept for a couple hours and we decided to go to the club Friday night. But then we had a tour at like eight o'clock the next morning. And they told us don't go to the club until like 1030 because people don't start coming until then. So we get to the club at 10 and we're the only ones there. We got to meet the owner. And I'll just say this. If you're ever in Athens, you need to go to the Two Plus Two Club. Yes. The owner was amazing. He did speak some English. Yeah. His wife was the bartender. She didn't speak any English. No, not really. And his name was Themis. Themis. T-H-E-M-I-S. And he paid so much attention to us because we were new and we were the only ones there. And then as the crowd started to come in and fill up. He would introduce us to people. Yeah, he was introducing us to people. I think you told him that we had a podcast and he didn't even know what a podcast was because I wanted him to know that we were going to talk about our time there in case he wanted to listen well he had no idea what a podcast was so we just dropped the issue anyway the club filled up this was on a Friday night it was couples only they had playrooms upstairs they had a couple playrooms behind the bar and they had that one was the cave right yeah and they had a big movie screen going with porn showing on that. The bar was in the middle. There wasn't really a dance floor, was there? No, there wasn't. No, so it was more like a social club. But you could kind of dance around the bar. I mean, there was a really deep walkway all around the bar. So there was kind of a little bit of open space. Well, what we learned is that people don't go there to dance. They go there to have sex. Yes, they do. At one o'clock in the morning. At one o'clock in the morning. Yeah. I mean, I thought people were leaving, but we had a good view of the door. I wasn't seeing anybody leaving. And so the four of us decided to go into the cave. Yeah. The playroom. Which was like the group room. It was kind of horseshoe shaped. Yeah. Yeah. So it was amazing. We played in there. I think there were a few other couples having sex in there. And I had the best view because I was laying on my back. You were in the corner. In the corner. So you could see everything. And there were windows out the cave. So I could see the bar and I could see the screen. So I could see that our friend, she was going down on me. I was getting a nice blowjob. You were sitting on top of our other friend. Then I could see the couples beyond you playing. Then I could look out and see the video that was going on. It reminded me of one of the first times we went to an event where all this stuff was going on. And I remember it being a little bit. Oh, that synergy event. Yeah. It was very similar. I wasn't overwhelmed, but so often that you and I go to clubs, we're with a group or, you know, we have responsibilities and we don't usually play. And this was so nice because we're in a foreign country. Nobody knew who in the heck we were. Right. And we were with personal friends. And we just got to go in there and be regular people and have sex in the club. Yep, that was fun. I got to let my exhibitionist side out a little bit. And it was just nice. It was just nice to be completely anonymous and just kind of let our hair down and have fun. Yeah. So anyway, we ended up having so much fun there. to Athens on Sunday. Basically, we just had to ferry back to Athens because that's where we were flying home from. Yeah. So, we were only going to stay in Athens one night to come home. And we had to get up at, what, five o'clock the next morning to catch our flight? Yeah, they picked us up at six. So, we were out to dinner, the four of us, and we said, well, we can either be smart, and after dinner, we should just go back and go to bed, or we could go back to that club. I know. And so you know where we ended up. We ended up going back to the club. Bad choices make good memories. And the owner was so happy to see us. And anyway, I talked to his son. His son was working the front desk. And his son spoke better English. Yeah, very good. His son was Sotiris, was his name, gave me his card. He goes, oh, I know what a podcast is. What's your podcast? And he put up Spotify. And I showed him the podcast. And I said, look, we have had a great time at your club. We are going to talk about, you know, your club. And he goes, Oh, that'd be great. He goes, Don't worry, I'll explain it all to my dad. So, and when we went back on Sunday, it was single guys were there that night. Yeah. So, it was a little bit of different vibe. And I don't, and I'm not going to get into my details because this is my, one of my snapshots comes from the club on Sunday night. But I, you know, I'd say those single guys were very respectful. Well, to me, that's how you can tell it's a good club. First of all, the club was clean. The bathrooms were nice and clean. The drinks were good. And the single guys were well behaved. Yeah, like you could tell that there was like a standard of behavior that was expected of them. And they all behaved well. And they, they actually were all pretty attractive, too. I mean, it was a nice, nice lineup. Yeah. And, well, Well, we won't talk anymore about that because, I don't know. To be continued. To be continued in our snapshot. So anyway, sorry that you had to relive our vacation through our slideshow, our visual slideshow, but Greece was amazing. Yeah. We would definitely go back, but we... I mean, Athens, you got to do the Acropolis and you got to eat dinner at a rooftop bar overlooking the Acropolis. I think the nicest club we went to, the bar was the 360 bar. in Athens. It was a happening place. It was a line to get in. Monastrache Square. Yeah. That's where everything goes on. And the roof was right underneath the Acropolis. The Acropolis is lit up at night. The music was playing. They kept bringing us drinks. We didn't get a lot of sleep. No, we were so tired. Like, I don't think we ever really got our bodies reset to the eight hour time difference. Yeah. And so we were like fighting. it every day, but we never stopped. We can sleep in the United States. Our friends are a bad influence on us. We do. We kept saying, you know, if we were smart, we'd go to bed early tonight, and then we would laugh, and then we would just go to another bar. Yeah, and drink, and yeah. All right. Well, that's what's been going on with the Joneses. When we come back, we're going to talk a little bit about getting back into the swing of things. Welcome back to segment two. Talking about getting back in the swing of things and how we are accomplishing that. It's not past tense yet. We are just actually kind of getting our feet wet again. Yes, but I think after this trip especially I can say we're More Than Our Toes Are Back In. And so maybe we should start with why we took a break to begin with. Yeah, I know. For those of you who might be listening. I know that there was an episode, and forgive me for not memorizing the episodes like my husband does, but, you know, we did an episode probably about a year ago talking about taking a break, and basically the bottom line was that we had a lot going on in our personal lives with our moves and our jobs and this and that and the other. And everything was a distraction. And our, you know, our sex life has been different ever since Mr. Jones's surgery. And we found that that was getting put on the back burner. And then when we realized we were actually putting more energy into the lifestyle than our own sex life, you know, that was really kind of like a glaring indicator that our lives So we decided to, I think we've mentioned that we've met with Catherine a few times. Yes. And, you know, as I was, you know, as my body has been recovering and as we have stepped away from playing with others to focus on each other, a lot of what we needed to do, like you said, once we realized we were way out of balance and we had to just stop playing with other people, We had to figure our sex life out. Right. And our relationship in general, everything was just kind of out of kilter. You know, I think working with a therapist really, like, shines a spotlight on how both people are contributing to the problem. You know, it's not one person and then the other person's just waiting for that person to get their shit together. Like, you know, we both both needed to do a reset on the way, the way we think things through, the way we think before we speak, the way we explain things to each other. And I mean, it's, it was truly just a lifesaver. Now, could we have done it on our own? I'm pretty sure we could, because we have a really great relationship and a great friendship. You know, I think we, we give each other a lot of grace, but she was definitely instrumental in getting to the heart of the matter. You know, and helping us kind of recover quickly and come up with some really good tools in our toolbox when like we're getting frustrated with things. Yeah and for somebody who never ever had a problem getting hard to being you know there was a lot of mental stuff I had to try to get through and understand how sex was more than just that. So wrapping my head around that and you and I, trying to understand how we would re-engage with each other, took a lot of emotional energy and a lot of time. So that's, you know, and it was like, we would take two steps forward and one step back. It wasn't, it wasn't a very linear. No. And I mean, and it's still like that, but I think that that's life. You know, I think every relationship is like that. But we're the same people. And we realize also, you know, we're getting older. We had just been through quite a few life events. There was a lot going on. We moved and taking care of my parents. So, you know, we're not immune to... We have this podcast. And I think a lot of people think that we have our shit together. And, you know, for the most part, we do. But for a while, our shit was not together. Sorry, just kidding. We're not perfect. We are, as we say, Yeah. And a little bit of a side note here. I mean, I got email from people that they were complaining that we weren't doing our regular podcast. Like, you know, our format is that we talk about what we do in the lifestyle. Well, when we're not playing with people in the lifestyle, that has to change. Yeah. You know, we're not going to make stuff up. You know, so I'm sure a lot of people noticed that for the past year. I mean, fortunately, we brought in Expansive Connection. and we've been doing some origin stories, but, you know, there's been a shift in a little bit of that, and we're trying to get back to that actually tonight by talking about where we are getting back into the swing of things. So one of the things that, you know, that has really been influential so far is the erotic blueprint. Right, right. I mean, we already hashed through the whole Enneagram thing with Kel from Expansive Connections, so, you know, that we got our personalities figured out. Right. So then, well, what else can we figure out? So then, in our ladies' book club, we are reading the book by Jaya. She's the author of the Erotic Blueprint, which basically, if you're not familiar with it, there's five blueprints. And it's basically like five different, like, ways that you experience pleasure. There's erotic, or not erotic, There's energetic, there's sensual, there's sexual, there's kinky, and then there's what's called a shape shifter, which means you kind of like absorb all of the energy around you, whether it's sensual, sexual, or whatever. So, and there's a lot more to it than just saying, oh, well, you know, I like penis and vagina, so I'm sexual. But there's, it's very kind of deep. as far as like dig it into it and figuring out how you're wired and what makes you tick. Yeah, besides reading the book and taking the quiz, which you can do online, there was Gwyneth Paltrow did a series on Netflix a few years ago called Sex, Love and Goop. Yes. And this Jaya was featured on that show. So you can also find out about it by watching that show on Netflix. Yeah, it's a documentary and they had like what, like six or so couples? Yeah. And basically, it was just like six case studies on how, you know, couples relate to each other intimately. Right. So what did you discover about yourself? Well, I'm a sensual. Um, and which means that I'm, I'm more focused on like the environment and kind of like the buildup. Um, it's like sex for me is very much in my head. And, um, it, There's not a switch that flips quickly in me. I'm kind of a slow starter. Which, honestly, that's always kind of been the deal, right? Yeah. Like, you know, we'll start engaging with a couple, whether we've played with them before or not, and I'll look over, and you guys are like three steps ahead of us, and I'm just kind of like, you know, getting warmed up. So, you know, now I understand that I'm not procrastinating or I'm not nervous or whatever. That's just kind of like my pace. I have to kind of get into it. Right. So you were wanting me to slow down, but I didn't need to slow down. Right. Yeah, I mean, because obviously your blueprint doesn't match mine, which is fine. And that's one of the things that our Ladies Book Club study has discovered is that all the different types can be compatible with one another as long as you have an understanding of how your partner is wired. Or your play partner. Like, I think this comes in handy in the Yeah, but your partner has to understand your, if your blueprint, if your styles are different, you need to understand that and you need to find a way to serve your partner. You have to be willing to try. Right, right. And see, babe, you've only, you haven't, you're just getting to the point in the book where she explains all that. So I think you're getting to the best part of the book. Yeah, but I'm handicapped because I scored out of the five, Three were almost identical scores. So I came high on kinky, energetic, and sensual. Yeah. So I don't know that one is ahead of the other. So you're a jack of all trades and master at none. Well, what I'm not is a sexual. So that means I just don't want to, it's not just about fucking. Yeah. You know, which I kind of figured. And I'm not a shapeshifter. So these three I scored fairly high on. And what I had, especially with the kinky, I didn't understand the kinky one at first because in my mind, even as experienced as I am in the lifestyle, kink was like flogging and bondage and fire play. And, you know, it was that kind of thing. But I didn't understand the way she describes there's a psychological kinky. That's what I am. Like when we go out and I'm scheming, you know, hey, let's go over there and pretend like we're married and talk to that couple. Or hey, you know, let's go. What's going on at that table over there? This is what I think is going on. And to get somebody to role play with me or to... Which is not me. Which is not you. It's actually the wife that we went to Greece with. Yeah, yeah. She and I are compatible when it comes to that. Extremely. But I didn't understand that that was a psychological kink was different than the physical kinkiness, the way that she explained. So anyway, I'm not at the end of the book yet. So I haven't figured all that out. But this is, I think, the pieces that we're putting together about how we like to enjoy sex is a part of us rebuilding our sexual relationship as we're coming back together. And I mean, I think it's kind of cool that we're doing this 40 years in. You know, I mean, we're old dogs learning new tricks, basically, right? Like, I thought when we went through our little sexual revolution at the 20-year mark, you know, that it was so cool that we were learning new things about each other at 20 years. So now here we are, you know, twice as, you know, married twice as long and we're still learning. For me, I'm totally fired up about this because I'm learning things about myself. Or I'm understanding things that I already knew about myself. Now I understand why I'm the way I am. And I think that's going to help me probably getting ahead of your outline. But I think the self-discovery that I've been going through, like really been focused on it like this spring and summer, help me reengage with people in the lifestyle because I think I'm going to be a better self-advocate for things that I want when we're playing with other people. Yeah. Well, I don't know what this falls in the blueprint, but we, I don't think we've had sex in our bed, but more than a half a dozen times since we moved down here. No, right. Most of our sex is outside, either in the pool or on the side of the pool or in the lounge chairs. Yeah, we have lots of furniture out there. We'll take the massage table out there. And I'm... Well, and then we have the big sofa. Like, we have like a sofa that has a chase on one side of it. So there's lots of room in the living room. But the formula that we're trying to figure out how to replicate is that you'll be floating around the pool reading your book, which is getting you in the mood. And I'm... of sex toys that you have with you in the pool. And I get to watch that. And the visual part of it for me is more what I need now in order to get an erection. Where before my body just responded, it does more now by what I'm seeing and what I'm visualizing. So that's been a successful combination formula for us. So we're trying to figure out how to replicate that in January when it's too cold to get in the pool. I love you, but I don't love you enough to get in the pool in January. Yeah. Yeah. Because as soon as I start watching you, you know, then I start to get turned on and then everything works fine at that point in time. So, um, but you know, we've decided, unfortunately we have some really, really good friends in the lifestyle who have been really, really patient with us and have We've taken it slow with us as we've gotten back in. And the few people that we've played with in the past few months have been friends that we've played with before. Yeah. And that know us really well. Yeah. I think that's a good formula for us right now. Yeah. So, will we engage with new couples or will we just continue? That's the big question, isn't it? I don't know. I mean, I tend to say, no, I think we should probably just stick with, You know, friends that we have, because we are blessed with a lot of really good friends that we do see reasonably regularly. But I know to never say never in the lifestyle. Yeah. You know, we've met some really cool couples this year in our travels, you know, that I hope that we end up staying in touch with. Yes. And when I get to my snapshot, I'm going to refresh your memory. that we would have potentially played with a couple at the club yeah so when we start talking about will we or won't we i'm telling you what that night we would have that was a definite yes yeah but we'll talk more about that in a minute just as a little bit of a teaser so anyway uh we're back into the swing of things and i don't we don't know how how this is going to play out in the future but we're headed in that direction but i think one of the things that we wanted to say is that you know, you just never know when life is going to get in the way, whether it's health, you know, whether it's taking care of your parents, whether it's a career change, whether it's moving, you know, there are things in life that are going to take a priority over lifestyle activities. Yes. And as they should. Yeah, as they should. Right. And so hopefully if there's a lesson out there, I mean, if, If it can happen to us, obviously it can happen to anyone. We know a lot of people who have taken a break and come back in. Because the lifestyle is really not the primary focus of our relationship in our lives. It's just something that we enjoy doing with good friends. Well, and, you know, even though we are kind of just sticking with friends right now, it's still different. Yeah. Like, you know, I think we, Because you and I are playing differently now, we're not, I mean, we're not really doing full swap. Because even though you can get hard, you can't really put a condom on. So that's kind of out of play right now. You know, I think it is requiring a lot of communication. And the other thing is that we can't assume that friends that we've played with in the past, want to play with us now right you know so we kind of have to have that maybe you still like us yeah do you still like us elevator speech right you know so we have to have an elevator speech it's different than the typical one where you're starting from scratch but we still have to to have conversations with all of our friends because i don't think it's fair for us to make any assumptions right and then as i'm learning more about myself i'm going to have to figure out how to be a better self-advocate for the ways I want to re-engage. I think so. Yeah, that's really helpful. You know, being a people-pleaser can also be a cop-out, you know, as a way to just, like, have to avoid speaking up for what you want or what you need. Well, and I think there was one time, and you said this, and I didn't really realize it at the time, we were laying by the pool in Mykonos. I think it was Mykonos. And you had your bikini on and you were reading. And I put my hand on your stomach. And it started wandering. And, you know, it was just my fingertips. And I never went underneath your bathing suit because there were other people around. I mean, if other people looked over, I mean, you were being naughty, but you were not being inappropriate. Right. But you were making me crazy. Yeah. Right. Like I said, I kind of had a you about a really cool experience at the club welcome back to snapshots that um i'm pretty sure everything occurred in greece at least my most memorable um snapshots of the recent weeks and months Yeah, so let's just get down to it. Because I think we have the same snapshot, but it's going to be from two different perspectives. Yeah. So as I mentioned, the second time we went to the 2 Plus 2 Club in Athens, oh, we forgot to say when the Uber driver dropped us off, he was afraid to leave us there. He was. It was in a sketchy part of town, but it's down, like if you've ever been to Athens or if you ever go, the club is near the port. where the cruise ships come in and where the ferries are and everything. Yeah. So if you're going to go on a cruise, it's convenient. It's on a really dark, quiet street. Yes. But it had the purple neon sign out. And I knew we were in the right. Well, it had a sign that said. But remember, our friend went to the door and it wasn't open. Right. It was locked. So he was knocking and the driver said, I think I'll wait here. I'll wait here until they let you in. Are you sure this is the right address? And we said, yep, we're pretty sure. This is the right address. Anyway, we went back on Sunday. It was a single guy night. Well, first of all, when we went the first time, you and the other wife walked around and you looked at all the playrooms. And then I went with my husband friend. Yeah. And we walked around. And at the top of the stairs, there was a playroom that had black lace curtains. And I said, I want to play in that room. Because he said, what do you think those curtains are for? And I said, if the curtains are down, then people can watch, but they can't come in. I said, if you pull the curtains to the side, I expect, at least in the United States, I would expect that people would be invited in. So I said, I want the curtains to be down because they're perfectly sheer and you can see through them. And I want to have sex here so people can watch me. And he was like, really? And I'm like, yes. So then, when that first night we were there, when we went upstairs, that room was full. And we ended up down in the cave, which was still tons of fun. Yeah. So then, anyway, we go to the club on Sunday night. Single guys start streaming in, and they all start sitting at the bar. The owner is doing his best to bring every single single guy over to our table. Yeah. But then this couple walked in and sat down behind us, and they were a really nice-looking couple. Yes. And I picked up on the fact that they were speaking English. And the four of us were sitting at a table and I said, I'm sorry, I got to go meet this couple. So I got up and went around and started talking to them. And obviously our conversation went on for a while. They were from Scotland. So hello to our Scotland friends. You came over and I introduced you as my wife. And then our friends came over and we said, why don't you guys come over? and sit with us. And they were fairly new to the lifestyle. We had a great conversation. They were a ton of fun. They were having a great vacation. Did we mention they were gorgeous? Yes, we mentioned that. Okay, I want to make sure that that gets out there. So we, I mean, I mostly talked with him. He was on my side of the table. And I talked with her. And you talked with her. And anyway, it was getting late. It was starting to be the witching hour there, which is 1 o'clock. By the way, we had a transport picking us up at 5 o'clock in the morning. And we were at least a half an hour away from the hotel. But it's 1 o'clock and hormones are going and the four of us want to go play. But there were six of us sitting at the table. And I just came out to the other couple and I said, look, I know we've just met you guys. The four of us are going to go upstairs and play. If you want to come up and join us, there's no expectations. You know, you can engage with us. You can do your own thing. We just want to open the invitation to you. If you're comfortable enough, we'd love for you to join us. And she said, you know what? I'm going to have one more drink, and then I think we might be up. So when we got up to go to the playroom, most of the single guys were still sitting at the bar. And there weren't that many couples in there. There were maybe, what, five or six couples? Yeah. The single guys definitely outnumbered the couples. So we went up to this room that you mentioned, and I didn't even know what you just said about the curtain. Oh, you didn't? Did we close the curtain? I don't think we did. Well, no, I don't think we did, but I think they opened it. Yeah. Okay. So anyway, the four of us go in there, and there's a king-sized bed in there. And you and the other ladies start playing. And so the other gentleman, if you can picture this, the doorways behind me, you two are in the middle of the bed. I'm propped up on my elbow looking at the headboard of the bed. And the other guy, our guy friend, your husband friend, is on the head of the bed looking towards the door. Right. I can't see anything that's going on behind me. I could I had the perfect view but as you two ladies were playing we were we were both we were scissoring so but we were both sitting up facing each other like I forgot to bring Thumper my new double dildo I didn't forget I was trying to pack light yeah so anyway we were we were playing like we had a double dildo but we didn't so we were just basically scissoring each other yeah so So we could both see the doorway perfectly. Yeah. And we had quite the crowd gather. Well, I kind of sensed that there were people behind me, but I didn't know how close they were, and I didn't know how many of them. They were really close. But you, I think you turned to me and you said, can you ask them to back off a little bit? They were approaching the bed. Yeah. And there was maybe, what, like four feet between, five feet between, like, the foot of the bed and the doorway. Maybe. So there wasn't a lot of room. No. But they were, they were actually in. And one of them started kind of coming around the bed towards me. Yeah. So I asked you. So you said, can you ask them to give us some space? So I turned around. When I turned around and saw like a half a dozen guys, I was like, I was like, whoa. I said, and I don't know if they speak English or not, but I started like moving my hand, gesturing back. I said, would you mind? I said, you guys, can you give us some space? I didn't ask them to leave. Right. I just said, can you, can you just give us some space? And they, they backed up. Yeah, they did. And so I turned back around and you all continued to play. And then when you all were finished, I started thinking in the back of my mind, I wonder if that other couple is going to come up here. And then I thought, I wonder if they're even going to be able to get into the room. I know. If they come up here because all the single guys were staring at right outside of our door. Well, then you, you, when you were finished, you two were finished, you came over to me and she went back to her husband. And she and her husband started having sex. And you climbed on top of me. And I sensed that these guys were getting close again. They were. But I didn't want to turn around. I was watching you. And my snapshot is that you looked up at them. And you, you know, I've told you before, one of the sexiest moves you have. is when you're on top of me and you lean back and you put your arms up and you just kind of like let yourself go. Like you put your arms to your kind of up in the air and your eyes are closed and you're leaning. You're just writhing. You're just very confident and you're getting lost in yourself. So I'm watching you and I see you do that. I don't remember doing that. I did that. And I decided not to say anything to the guys. Because you were clearly turned on by them watching you. I was making eye contact. I know you were. They all had their dicks out too. Okay, well before. It was like a butcher shop. Okay, so you have the same snapshot. So anyway, we ended up playing and we played for a while and then we stopped and we finished and they threw a, They were courteous enough to throw a box of wipes on the bed for us. And then they all filed out. I want to know what it was like from your point of view. Because I never turned around. I was watching you the whole time. And you were making eye contact with them. It was great. I'm like, oh my gosh, look at how confident she is. She's not worried about how old she is. She's not worried about wrinkles. She's not worried about anything. And she's got these 30-something-year-old guys. All lined up with their dicks out. And you were having a good time. It was pretty powerful. So what was it from your perspective? Like, it was just, it was crazy. Like, at first, when they first came in, and then one guy came around the bed, that made me a little nervous. Because it reminded me of the time we were at that Halloween party, and the guy stuck his hand in the tent and grabbed my calf. Right. I didn't want anybody touching me. Right. But just to like be... Well, first of all, playing with my girlfriend. And I think that kind of got them all started, obviously. I think most guys like to watch two girls together. And my girlfriend is very beautiful. So I'm sure they were enjoying that show. And I think she and I enjoyed putting on that show. Yeah. But then when I decided to climb on top of you... Maybe I should lay down and let you get on top of me missionary style. That would have been the emotionally safe thing to do. And then I'm like, what the hell? I'm in Greece. These people don't know who I am. I'm never going to see these people again. So I just climbed on top of you. And then I realized that they all had their dicks out. There were three people actually in the room. And then there were, I know, at least three people. like in the in the doorway so i there were definitely a half a dozen guys there and they stayed the whole time like none of them left so just and i i only made eye contact with like maybe two or three of them because it was it was um nerve-wracking actually making eye contact so what were what were they doing what would they do when you made eye contact with them would they hold that eye contact with you yeah Did you notice if any of them finished? Well, I think that's why the guy brought the wipes. I think he needed the wipes for himself. Oh, okay. Yeah. And then he, because he actually, when he put the wipes on the bed, he took one out. So I'm assuming he used it on himself. I couldn't see because like you were in the way. And then another guy kind of stepped in next to him. Right. So, but then they left them on the bed, which was very courteous. Yeah. So, I don't know, it was crazy. Like, you can't, you could have not convinced me that I would have done that before we went to the club that night. I know. Like, hey, Mrs. Jones, I think we should do this tonight. I'd have been like, yeah, right. Well, you wouldn't have said, let's pick up a couple either. So, then to finish the story, fortunately, we had switched WhatsApp information with this other couple. Because when we got finished, They never showed, and so we, when we, by the time we got dressed, all the single guys had gone on to the next show. Right. They were done with us. We went downstairs, and the other couple was gone. Yeah. So we were in the airport the next day, and I got a message from him, and he said, and I have mixed feelings about this, because as fun as I, as much fun as I had, I was disappointed, because he said, we came up to join you, but we couldn't get into the room, because all of single guys were in the way. And I was like, damn. And he said, but don't worry, we found another couple and we went into another room. I said, okay, well, good. At least you had an opportunity to play. But now we have a good reason to go to Scotland. Yeah, that's right. And they told us that there's some good clubs there too. Yeah, Glasgow, I think he said. But anyway, it was, so speaking of single guys, so we're trying to to make a valiant effort to bring single guys into our community. We've had quite a few single guys join lately, and we have created a space for singles, and it is growing quickly. So we would, if you're a single guy or a single lady, I don't want you to think that you have to be a couple to be in our community because we've had some amazing, and I've told our single guys too, I said, man, dudes, if you do this the right way, you have got a lot of couples here. to choose from because good single guys are hard to find. So if you're interested in being a single guy and you want some good camaraderie, feel free to join our community. You want a chance to meet some solid couples. Well, first of all, you can meet other single guys who know how to do this. So you're going to learn from other people. Like, I feel bad for single guys because where do they learn? If you don't know, who's going to teach you? Right. So we have some really solid single guys that are really good mentors. And then, yes, there are lots of couples in our community that would love to connect with a decent single guy. So, you know, the other thing, you know, I just said, if you would have asked me if I would have, you know, gone into that exhibition room and done that, you know, before we went to the club, I would have said no. Although I said I wanted to go in that room, but I didn't. When I told my friend, you know, our friend that I wanted to go into that room the first week we were there, I didn't imagine six guys in the doorway. But I also didn't know we were going to go back on single guy night, right? So then I was wondering, I wonder if you and I would have been at that club alone without friends if I would have been brave enough to engage. Because you know what? There was one guy sitting across the bar. The bar was square shaped and we were sitting at a table on one side of the bar. But there was a guy directly across sitting by himself. And he kept looking at me all night. And I kept making eye contact back with him, but he never came over. And I didn't go over to him because I really wasn't trying to pick up a single guy. Well, we would have gone over there because I asked you, you said, that guy keeps looking at me and I think he's cute. And I said, well, do you want to go talk to him? And you said, no, let's just stay here. Yeah. And see if he comes over. But if it had been just the two of us, I wonder if I would have been brave enough to engage with a single guy. Well, I would have gone with you. I would have gone with you. Oh, yeah. Of course you would. Yeah. But, you know, I liked that guy because he was older. I think he looked to me, I don't know, from across the bar, I think he was probably somewhere in his 40s. Yeah. So, almost like my single guy's a little more grown up. I don't know. Because all the ones in the doorway were very young. Yeah. And very hot. They weren't complaining, honey. There was not one ugly single guy there. All right. So we want to say thank you to Themis for being so hospitable to us. Yes. What an amazing host. And what a great job you have done in building this club that has just the best environment. It does. And so, Tiras, thank you. It's nice to meet you. I will, we will be recommending your club, you know, and it's really close to the port. So if you're going to go to Athens to go on a cruise. Oh, yeah. You know, hop on over to, it's Sometimes the ships stay in port overnight. That would be great. Or if you go to the, you know, a lot of people will fly the day before and then get on the boat the next day. That'd be a great way to start your vacation, people. And you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to make an offer right now that I hadn't planned on doing. If you're a single guy and you want to join our community, send me an email and I will give you a single guy promo code. Because I think it's, you know, when you go to nightclubs and you see it's, It's ladies night and ladies getting free. They never do that for guys. Guys never get a break. So because our price structure is mostly set up for couples, if you're a single guy out there, my email address is mrjones at wegotathing.com or you can contact me through our website and tell me you're a single guy and I will send you a promo code for a discount to try our community. All right. All right. Well, that was fun. We are definitely back in the swing of things. Yes, we are. That was nice reliving that. It was a really great vacation. Yeah, good vacation, amazing country. Good friends. Good friends. Yeah, we got some good friends. We got along the whole time. We were joking around the whole time like, you know, I hope we're still friends at the end of this 11 days. Right. And I think we still like each other. I think so. So, you know, like I said before, there's information about our community on our website. Our website is wegotathing.com, W-E-G-O-T-T. T-A-T-A-T-H-I-N-G dot com. I already gave my email address. And I'm mrsjones at wegotathing.com. You can book your desire trip through our website. We do have some openings coming up in November. We'd love for you to join us the 15th through the 22nd. Well, and you can book your desire trip any time of year through our website. It doesn't just have to be when we're going. True. And don't forget, we do have a promo code for our quarterly premier membership. WGT930. And I will put that in the show notes in case you can't remember. But WGT930. Good job. And you can follow us on Twitter or X. Sorry, I just can't get used to saying that. And also on Instagram. And our new, as you'll notice from our outros that you're going to be hearing, our new Jessica, Person is joining our podcast with an audio. She is our new social media manager. So we're excited to have her on board too. You can also get free trials at Cassidy or SDC. And I think that's all we need to say. All right. Thanks for listening. We are Mr. and Mrs. Jones and we got a thing. What's your thing? We'll see you next time....