Episode 14: Mrs. Jones on the Hot Seat!

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This podcast contains explicit language and content and is for mature audiences only. Hey you teenagers out there, if you're under 18, this show is more for your parents. So now that you have that mental picture stuck in your head, put some music on and get back to doing your homework. We are a long-time married couple who's decided to chronicle our personal adventures and share our sex-positive discussions as we navigate our way through the swinging lifestyle. Care to join us? Well, hello everyone, I'm Mr. Jones.

And I'm Mrsrs jones and we want to welcome you to episode 14 of the we got a thing podcast um it's been a while since we recorded i mean it feels like fall now i guess it's only been a few weeks summer's over i know so last time we recorded we were at the beach listening to the waves crash on the shore right outside of our condo, and now it's September. I know, but it's still pretty hot outside. It is. It was a beautiful day today. We went to a winery with some very wonderful vanilla friends of ours, and we enjoyed it. Oh, you know what?

You should tell the story about the Facebook message you got. Oh, so right. So we have friends from, um, the lifestyle that we have gotten to know that they live fairly locally and we have been to Nodding, New Orleans a couple of times and, and spend some time with them there. So the husband Facebook messaged me today and said, um, I got a friend request from this guy and his name is such and such. And, you know, doing a little bit of research, I can see that he's Facebook friends with you. Do you know anything about him and why he would have possibly try, you know, a friend requested me?

He said, I accepted his friend request because I thought I had worked with him previously or whatever. And then he said, and then I realized I didn't know him. And this friend of ours is a speaking of, made me think of it as a lifelong, a truly a lifelong vanilla friend. Oh, yeah. Mr. Jones went to high school with his wife and reaching out to one of our lifestyle friends to make a connection. So it was a little bit strange. It scared the bejeebers out of me.

But later later in the day he figured the connection and it was something completely different but just a big coincidence the world is a small place a little bit of a pucker factor yeah so anyway we had a good day with our vanilla friends yes we have a winery about 20 minutes from our house and it's just a lovely winery that just good wine a great facility um and they had a nice wine festival today and uh we just enjoyed the day outside yep so what we want to talk about first today we've got in keeping up with the joneses we've got some um you're going to notice some changes in the way that we're doing music this episode and gosh this has been music has been a lot of fun for me but it's a pain in the butt because everybody has a different idea of what is legal and what's not legal a different interpretation yeah different interpretation and you know i've you know we have a license that i was under the impression covers this and maybe it does they're still telling me it does but other people are telling me it doesn't So I'm, you know, we have a license that I was under the impression covers this, and maybe it does.

They're still telling me it does, but other people are telling me it doesn't. So I'm, you know, we want to, we want to make sure that we're on the up and up and I've been doing a lot of research.

And really what it boils down to for, in my opinion, is that the music industry is still stuck in the 1970s and the licensing and all the requirements are basically they were written a long time ago for record companies and radio stations and podcasts weren't even around back then and what i think what it boils down to is that in order to protect the copyright a lot of the regulations are set up that they think if we pay if we play 30 seconds of somebody's song on our podcast that they're not going to buy it they're going to listen to this instead and that they're losing a sale and the way that i think about it is if you let me play 30 seconds of the song on our podcast you you're more likely as a listener to go out and buy it because you heard a little snippet of the sound right it, it's almost like free advertising for them, but they don't see it that way at all.

No, they don't see it that way. And I've been running all around trying to find out who's right and who's not right. But anyway, ultimately, what we've decided to do in the meantime is we will continue to use our wonderful Billy Paul theme song, Me and Mrs. Jones, because that ties so directly into our podcast. But the rest of the music that you're going to hear this episode, we just went ahead and purchased some songs that we knew that we could use legally. And then I'm going to try to make sure that I have the rights, the correct rights to continue to use the theme song. So anyway.

So stay tuned. The fight's not over. A little bit of a boring boring um opening here but we wanted you're going to notice the changes and i'm a little disappointed because i do like picking out the music based on you know the theme of the podcast but um hopefully i can do the same thing with the music that we do have so um we also wanted to talk about um we are going to be what what brought this up is that Jim and Jen from The Hidden Swing are going to be doing a podcast on International Podcasting Day, which is September 30th, and they asked all of their podcast friends to contribute.

And a lot of the questions had to do with how well you know your listeners. And so we went back and looked at some emails that we had got in the past and noticed that, so I came up with my own methodology because I wanted to figure out. Mr. Jones is into data.

I wanted to figure out what percentage of listeners actually sent us emails compared to compared to the overall downloads that we have and so what I calculated is that less than two percent of you are sending emails in and that's a neutral statement but what we've noticed and what we've noticed is a lot of our emails people say we don't want to bother you or we don't want to take up a lot of your time or a lot of them many of them say we don't want you to think we're stalking you right we hope this isn't too stalkerish yeah and I think maybe it's because the type of people that listen to us maybe they think that that's the perception but I want to dispel that you know right now because believe me less than two percent less than 2% of you, we don't, you know, this is probably maybe what, two or three emails a week that we get.

I think we maybe get a little bit more than that, but, but we love getting your emails. And I mean, you know, so we will sit down to dinner and, and, you know, it's just the two of us for dinner and, uh, Mr. Jones will be eating and he'll say, Oh, Oh, you know, as soon as we finish eating, I've got an email to read you. And he just loves it when he has an email to read that's come into We Got a Thing. And what we want, the emails that we're looking for, really, to get back to Jim and Jen's question, is we want to know you. We want to know our listeners.

So if you want to tell us what you think about the podcast, of course, that's fine. We love to read those, too. But we really love the emails that people tell us about themselves and they're a little bit about their journey and um you know really where they are and that helps us to understand who is listening to us and if we know about more about who's listening to us i think that'll help us plan our podcast in the future so that we know that we're, you know, that we're putting some content together that's interesting to our listeners.

So it helps us know our listeners, but it also helps us in our own lifestyle journey. Yes.

You know, just to hear people, you know, have the same silly things happen to them that's happened to us or, you know, just to know that you're not alone out there because sometimes you you're experiencing things that are just so foreign right to you know your perception of how normal life goes and and to to get an email from a couple that sounds you know you know very similar to you as far as their you know the point of of life that they're at as far as being empty nesters and, you know, still working on their careers and at the same time doing this crazy lifestyle stuff and they're having the same goofy things happen.

It's just, it's kind of, you know, entertaining and comforting and just reaffirming that, you know, we're doing the right thing and we're all having fun. Right. So what we're saying is rather than wait to the end of tonight's episode to say, email us, we're going to put it right out front. We want you to email us. Um, and we're going to read a couple of snapshots at the end of this episode that came in from a couple of listeners. So you can email us and tell us what you think about the podcast.

You can email us and tell us a little bit about yourselves, or you can email us a snapshot, and we'll try to get it read. We'll read it on one of our episodes. So that kind of, speaking of Jim and Jen. We got to meet them face to face. Yes, they were one of the last podcasters that we haven't met yet.

Yeah, they weren't able to go to Naughty New Orleans this year, this year, but the very week we got home, um, from New Orleans, they happened to be, yeah, it was the day after, um, they were in town on a business trip and we drove up and met them for dinner and had such a good time getting to know them. They are exactly like they sound. If you don't listen to, and I'm sure you do, The Hidden Swing, just a genuine couple. We had so much fun with them that evening, and they are just as pleasant in person as they are. Oh, I know. They are so much fun to be with. Yeah.

So anyway, thank you, Jim and Jen, for taking time out of your trip to have dinner with us. We really had an enjoyable evening. We went to this Irish pub, and it was in the old part of town. So it was kind of like a three- or four-story townhouse kind of deal. And they must have known because they sat us up. And every level had a bar.

It was was really really cool yeah so we ended up in this room it was just us and the server who was also acting as the bartender right and um it was this townhome that had all these beautiful original wooden floors so there was nothing to absorb the sound and you put four lifestyle podcasters in the same room yeah but i'm gonna I'm going to call out Jen because a couple of times she got really excited and Jim's looking at her and she looks at him and says, Oh, am I being too loud again? But I mean, the walls were wood, the floor was wood. It was nothing to absorb the sound.

And we were laughing so hard and Jen would get excited and she would be talking really loud. And then some of the words, you know, that we say when we're talking about our lifestyle experiences might turn some heads, but we didn't care. We had fun. We had a great time. They didn't kick us out. So it must not have been too bad. No, no. So it was nice to meet you guys, Jim and Jen, and have dinner together. And so that you don't think this first segment is all business. We've had some pleasure. Yeah. Yes, we have. We did last weekend.

So we met a couple last spring and between our crazy schedules and their crazy schedules, we weren't able to get together with them for like an official, let's chuck each other out dinner until July. And we did. And we talked that on a on the podcast we found this really intimate restaurant french restaurant downtown dc yeah and and had the red velvet curtains and they tucked us away so we could um have private conversation and right so that was a really really fun dinner so we finally managed to get together for um a full evening a more private evening um this past weekend weekend.

And we actually spent the whole afternoon and evening with them. Yeah. And I mean, before we get into the details of the evening, I think the thing that made this weekend really a lot of fun was there was a lot of communication ahead of time.

So we knew they were interested, you know, because sometimes like we had a couple cancel on us a couple weeks ago and you know when you send somebody a message and then like two or three days later they reply and you're saying yeah you know i'm not sure if they're really into this well this couple was emailing us texting us and we were replying and we could tell by the back and forth that they were really committed to the, you know, to coming down.

And we, you know, we had the evening, and we'll talk about the evening specifically, but it just flowed from the time that we met them at the winery until when they left to get here to go home. There was no awkward pauses. We transitioned through all parts of the afternoon and the evening. And it was just, it was a really fun time. I think we're getting a little bit more experience under our belt. Yeah. I don't think we're so uptight about things anymore. And we just are able to roll with the punches a little better. Right.

But yeah, we started out in the afternoon in a winery and did a tasting together and and then uh got a bottle of wine and sat around and and talked and most of that was vanilla stuff so i guess that's kind of a typical way to start a lifestyle evening so and then we we came back to our home and and had a cookout and had a nice dinner and our empty nest yes yes thank goodness for our empty nest so we had a nice dinner. Our empty nest. Yes, yes. Thank goodness for our empty nest. So we had a nice dinner. And then things just kind of transitioned. I got out my card game again.

Yeah, so we cooked out. And we had more wine with dinner. Yeah. And then you got the card game out. And you ladies changed. And they had never had La Cour 43 before. Oh, right. Oh, my goodness. oh my goodness right so yes i was able to initiate them to liqueur 43 right my pleasure and so we got the card game out and that progressed you know we usually only get to get through one or two cards per person and then that's it but that's okay that's the job of the card and everybody says this game is dumb. This game is dumb. Not everybody. Well, you do. Yeah, I do.

But the game always has led to very sexy fun. I know, but what I'm saying is we need to go through there and throw the dumb cards out. But the dumb cards make for humor. I mean, and they're funny. Yeah.

So anyway, we were downstairs in the family room playing the card game card game yeah well she and i after dinner um you cleaned up which was wonderful and that gave the other lady and i time to go upstairs and slip into something more comfortable so we did that and and you guys did too right after you finished cleaning up you guys yep um undressed a little bit and got a little more comfortable before we played our game. Right. And you ladies are so predictable. The first card she drew, she decided to give me a blowjob. I had my lingerie on for about 30 seconds. Well.

And you're pulling it off. I know. Why do I even bother? So that's how the game started. Yes. Yeah. Well, I mean, there were a couple like back and forth questions. But yeah, the first action card, yeah, she had to give you a blowjob. So her husband and I watched for a while. She didn't have to. She chose to. I'm not saying that it was a task. Yes. She got to give you a blowjob. Yes. Yes. Yeah.

And then I had to whisper something sexy into her ear yes yeah and i never told you what i told her actually no you never did i told her what sexy legs that she has she does have nice legs yeah she has nice everything yeah yeah she does so her husband and i were just sitting on the love seat next to each other just kind, I mean, you know, a blowjob is fun to watch. But after a while, same old, same old. I mean, we got a little bored. Right. Right. What were we to do? Right. So we quickly realized that we needed to get upstairs.

Or the, you know, the downstairs was going to, we were going to end up on the ceramic tile again. I know. And know and you know i'm just not as young as i used to be i really appreciate a nice mattress right so we came upstairs and we had we had an extra bedroom that we had really prepared see we're getting better at even hosting i mean we had prepared the bedroom and we had the candles and the music and everything well we've tried different ways of doing it doing it. So we know what we've, what has flowed well. And bottles of water. Yes. Yeah. You had bottles of water.

You were very prepared, honey. Yes. So, um, and you ladies started out together. We did. And that's always amazing. It was amazing. It was very fun. Yeah. And I don't even know what you two were doing. Were you just standing with your arms crossed watching? What were you two doing? She and I kind of took up the whole bed. At first we were watching and then I went around on her side of the bed and I was rubbing her back and her legs and then he was doing the same to you. But I don't think you guys really noticed that much because you're pretty into each other.

Well, at first I was kissing her and I was kind of on top of her and kissing her. And then I asked if I could go down on her and she said, yes. So I think when I started working my way down her body is when you, you saw the opportunity. And she, she's an amazing kisser. And I guess what I mean by that is she was really passionate with her kisses. She, she, I've been with other women who are good kissers as far as technique goes, but this lady was really getting worked up through kissing. Again, that's why we don't like the no kissing rule. That's true. Yeah, so I really enjoyed kissing her.

I enjoyed kissing her husband. Yeah, so then after you two were finished, she and I, she went down on me and I think you went down on him, right? Yeah. And that was really, really nice. I think I had to, I had to slow her down a bit. You seem to, you say that a lot on this podcast. I am just being real. No, I didn't have to stop her. I just slowed down a little bit. I'm getting better at knowing my environment and what to look at, what not to look at, and how to control myself. Or as Paige says from Swinger Diaries, you've got to think about kittens and baseball. No, I don't do that. No.

So, yeah, she gave me a blowjob, and then I think I I went down on her and then we ended up full swapping. Yeah. That was a pretty easy transition. Yeah. And that's the first time that we've full swapped with a couple the first time that we've played. Right. So, and that says, I think more about, it says a lot about them because we were really comfortable with them. Yeah, they were very easy to be away.

and it was a lot of fun, but it also, I think, you know, really a good measuring stick for the experience that we have now that we're to the point where we're, we're comfortable enough doing that if it's the right couple where before we kind of had this unwritten rule that, well, let's soft swap first. Right.

Because there's couples that we have soft swap with in the past that you know with the experience and and comfort level that we have with our whole um place we are in the lifestyle that might have turned out differently you know it's just it was us we weren't ready it wasn't that we weren't attracted to other couples i just think now, we have gotten into a place where you and I have learned to read each other better. And, um, we kind of trust our instincts a little bit more. Whereas before we would always kind of hesitate. Yes. And when we full swapped, um, she, uh, that's right.

She, I was in her doggy style to begin with.

And I think you were all, you all were a missionary all were missionary yeah we started out missionary we went doggy style for a little bit and then we finished missionary yeah and then after a while doggy style we went missionary and you know i started talking you know i had told in the game that's what came up we one of the questions was talking sexy and i said well i'm really not good at it well i started talking when we were when she and i were full swapping i don't even remember what i was saying but she was talking back to me it was pretty hot you guys were into it yeah we were you know what you know what now that you said that remember a long time ago and i think maybe it was episode five and we were just talking about full swap and said, I can't wait or I'm looking forward to seeing you get lost in another woman.

And for the most part, I was pretty lost because I don't. You're getting very good at that. Yeah. I don't think you were worried about me one bit. I didn't look your way that much that night. So I was really into it. It was fun i was being well taken care of yes yes i had no complaints right and then when they left they accidentally left some of their clothes here so they're holding their clothes hostage you have to come back down and get them it's gonna cost right right so anyway that was a lot of fun. That's pretty much keeping up with the Joneses. Yeah.

So when we come back, we're going to get into our topic tonight. And that is Mrs. Jones on the hot seat. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Thank you. okay well welcome back to segment two and um we've titled this episode mrs jones on the hot Thank you.

okay well welcome back to segment two and um we've titled this episode mrs jones on the hot seat and the whole backstory behind this is you know we've told you that we were at the beach a month ago on vacation and we had taken our podcast equipment with us because that was the week that we did our podcast with page and pen from swinger diary so we had our stuff with us and completely unrelated one night mr jones and i were sitting out on the deck of our condo which overlooked the ocean and it was just one of those amazing nights with lots of stars and the waves crashing and we had been out to dinner and we had had a cocktail or two or however many and so we were sitting out on this deck and we were just enjoying the tranquility and and all of a sudden mr jones and i just kind of started having a conversation and he asked me a couple questions about my feelings about the lifestyle right and i would answer the question and then it would be kind of another quiet peaceful pause and then he'd ask me another question and i would kind of share my thoughts on it and this went on for like an hour at least right and about halfway through i'm thinking he's interviewing me it was really weird um so it was, we had the most amazing conversation and it was just so, um, unplanned and, and, uh, just really kind of flowed so naturally.

And the next morning we were taking a walk on the beach and I said, it is so sad that somebody didn't hit the record button last night when you and I were talking because we had the most profound conversation. And Mr. Jones said, well, you know, we could recreate it if you'd want to do that. We have all of our equipment here. And I'm not going to lie. We tried once and it kind of flopped. So then we tried it again. So what we're going to share with you in just a minute here is a conversation that we recorded at the beach. I think it was take two. Yeah.

Just kind of tried to recreate that that just really natural conversation we had that night sitting out on the deck. And what it relates to is we've been in the lifestyle, you know, for about a year and a half.

But we've really only been active about a year now now i mean we we didn't really get the nerve to actually dive into things until last summer so we had had so many positive experiences over you know the past few months and it kind of all culminated at knotting new orleans and and our beach trip was only like a week or two after knotting new orleans so we were just kind of like riding this high and realized that we had kind of arrived, I guess, as far as being in the lifestyle where we weren't so uptight about things anymore.

And we, we weren't so worried about damage on our relationship anymore. And, um, so if you have a few minutes, you can take a listen and hear some of our thoughts. Mrs. Jones, you're on the hot seat. Oh no. Are you ready for this? I don't think so. Good. Here we go. It'll be more real this way. I have a few questions for you. Okay. We've been married 31 years. Certainly I have answers. I know, but this lifestyle creates a whole lot of opportunity for new questions. Obviously. And we asked a lot of these questions to ourselves a year to a year and a half ago.

I imagine the answers might be different by now. Right. That's why I'm asking you the questions. Okay. All right. You ready? I think so. Okay. First question. Mrs. Jones, in what ways have you grown or changed over the past year because of being in the lifestyle? Well, I think I'm more confident in various situations. I'm more confident about my appearance because I kind of have to be.

I, you think when you're in the lifestyle you just kind of have to accept who you are and just own it and yeah I'm not 20 years old anymore and yeah I've had two kids and you know we always find imperfections with ourselves you know especially with media today and photoshop and yeah your brain knows that the picture's been photoshopped but you know when you look in the mirror at yourself and there's no photoshop it's still it's just hard to swallow so what's taken place though specifically in the lifestyle that's helped you have a different attitude towards the confidence and the body image things?

Well, I think once you find a couple that you are attracted to and that is attracted to you, I think once you engage and play with them, I don't really notice a lot of details about the woman's body or the man's body you know it's just it's the overall impression of them and it's their body language and it's their personality and it's their self-confidence so and the self-confidence really I think is a huge part of it self-confidence is sexy and I think I've learned that so I've just learned to let go of the little criticisms I have about myself appearance wise and just kind of, you know, and it's not easy, but I've learned to like, let that go and just be who I am.

And if people find me attractive, that's great. And if they don't, then it wasn't meant to be anyway.

So just telling yourself, you need to be really it sounds like that's not helpful it's actually going through situations in the lifestyle with other couples and being told you're attractive by other men and other women the actual experience of it has helped to understand help you to reframe that right right and that carries over into my professional life as well I mean I think I interact better with people now and I think I'm Um, you know when i make a decision or i have an idea i think i'm more confident about conveying that to other people now right because you and i do a lot of communicating now and we did before but i think our communicating is much more um detailed or yeah i know we're going to talk about i'm sure you have a question for me regarding communication but but i think because i have to be thoughtful about the way i respond when we communicate that helps me be thoughtful about how i interact with other people in all areas of my life plus you have the sexiest voice on itunes sometimes i don't think that really matters in other areas of my life okay so um along the same question about have you how have you grown or changed what about being with other men i mean there's this idea before we got into this that we each have to get our heads around what it's like going to be to be with another person and touching them and allowing them to touch you and being sexual to a certain degree with them to the degree that you're comfortable so now that you've been with a few men and I'm talking about men specifically okay um how has your how has that changed over the past year as far as the idea of just being with other men now that it's a reality well i mean it's not as scary as i thought it would be it's not as um life-altering as i thought it would be i mean after your you know especially, you know, we got married so young and yeah, we had both been with other people before we got married, but you know, nothing too serious.

So, you know, for, you know, 30 years or whatever, we were only with each other.

So I thought, Oh my gosh, it's just going to be so mind-blowingly traumatic to be with another guy after only being with you for so many years and and honestly I wasn't really looking forward to the the work involved in processing how I was going to feel about that I was almost kind of dreading it and now that it it's happened a few times and it and it's been fun and and you've reacted in a positive way and I've reacted in a positive way and the other couple has been you know fun and lighthearted about it I realized I was making way too big of a deal out of it right you know because I think we have the right attitude about it we're not being secretive and I'm allowed to tell you when I'm attracted to another guy and I'm allowed to tell you that he made me feel really good and i'm allowed to tell you that he did something different to me than you've done before and that it was really hot and i tell you that not because i want you to recreate that because i like what you do to me but but i just get to tell you these naughty little things that i've experienced in the lifestyle and it's amazing that i can tell you that and you're like turned on by it yes i'm turned on i'm all right with it as you just said yeah yeah so how would you describe and i'm doing air quotes here your thing in lifestyle terms what is your thing as of like right now so you mean over the past year as we've kind of like you know dipped our toes into different ways of swinging and and ways of meeting people or no i think this is more of a present day question okay um because i or you can tell me how your thing has changed from when you first started to to write to what it is right now.

Like, what is your thing? What about the lifestyle? What is it about you that you would say if somebody said I kind of have to confess that when we started our podcast and I asked everybody, we got a thing. What's your thing? I didn't know what my thing was. That was a sham. It went with the words of the song. And it was sexy. So yeah, you're right. I think I have a thing now.

I am having so much fun when you and I can meet another couple and we can find that couple that we're comfortable with and that we're, you know, everybody has an equal attraction for one another and nobody takes it too seriously. And whether it ends up being, you know, soft swap, full swap, you know, if there's a girl, girl play, that's great. If there's not, that doesn't even bother me either. It just, I just want to have fun, sexy time with another couple. I don't need to have this serious, crazy, intense sex. Sometimes it turns into that, but I want it to start out as fun.

I can have crazy, serious, intense sex with you. That's right, and we're pretty good at that. You know, so we don't need assistance in that aspect of our sexuality. What we just want to do is have fun and make new friends and just, you know, kind of use our new friends as foreplay for what we're going to get to later when we get to reconnect. Right. So I guess that's my thing. So do you want me to say what my thing is not? Or are you going to ask me that later? No, go right ahead. So, you know, we've been doing this for, I guess we've been active for about a year now.

You know, we've been, I guess, in the lifestyle for a year and a half, almost two years, but really only hit our stride in the past year, I guess. So, as I see us moving forward as a couple in the lifestyle, I really don't have any curiosity about playing in a separate room. I like to be with you when we play with other couples for two reasons. I know you like to watch me have sex.

And so not only am I playing with a beautiful woman or I'm playing with this hot, sexy man who's making me feel all kinds of crazy things, I know you watching it so that like it's like double the pleasure because my body is being taken care of you know and stimulated and you know played with and that's fun but then at the same time I know I'm like just driving you crazy so I like that and then make it even better, I get to look at my incredibly handsome husband who is so lean and fit. And you're a very graceful person no matter what you're doing. Your body moves very gracefully.

And when I watch you have sex with somebody else, it's just, it sounds corny, but I think it's just beautiful. and I love to watch it. I can't do that if we're not in the same room. So, and you know, the whole, I don't know, the threesome thing, I know we've talked about it and, and I'm not opposed to that, but I'm not, um, I don't know.

I, I just don't really feel myself wanting to go to the work of pursuing it because i think it's kind of a lot of work to pursue finding a single guy or a unicorn right you know that's going to um kind of meet our needs personality personality wise i guess and motivation wise so i want to go back to something that you said and the question before about your thing and where it fits in our lives. So you've mentioned a few times in podcasts and to me, you use the word balance, right? Can you describe how, how do you see, how do you think your life is in balance? What role does the lifestyle play?

And you can use a number, a percentage, however you want to describe it, but to keep the balance that you need in your life, how much of that is lifestyle related? I don't think I can come up with a percentage because you and I don't really say, you know, we're going to play every other weekend, or, you know, we're only going to have sex with other people once a month, or, or, oh, we really are having fun. Let's do, you know, let's try to find something to do every single weekend. We don't do that. It kind of ebbs and flows.

And, you know, for, for those of you listening, this is the end of the summer and Mr. Jones and I are at the beach for a week. We run at a condo right on the beach and it's just just it's kind of in the quiet part of Myrtle Beach and it's just heaven down here and I told Mr.

Jones that we were going to be exclusive this week and I just I really didn't want to play with anybody this week we've had three major vacations this summer we we've been very fortunate we were able to go to Desire at the beginning of the summer and obviously that was a lifestyle vacation and then we got to go to new orleans last month for you know four days of insanity crazy fun sexy times and and then we got to come to the beach at the end of the summer and and i you know we've had two amazing lifestyle vacations and they've been so much fun, but I needed a week to just have you all to myself.

I think that's important. I'm not complaining about that. So I can't give a percentage because, you know, we have a couple of dates, hopefully lined up next month. And then, um, you know, we've got another lifestyle event in Octoberober and you know so we have stuff in the pipeline i guess but you know as far as you know every other weekend or whatever i don't know you know and our podcast takes a lot of our time right um and you know we we both enjoy that and we're both willing to give that time so So, you know, you factor that in and I think we just need to keep it real. Right.

Because we have professional lives. We have family. We have a big family and they all live in our town. So, not all of them, but enough of them. Right. So, and we get to see them often and that's, you know, very important to us. And we have vanilla friends that are very dear to us. Right. Mr. Jones thinks they're a little boring, but they're very dear to I don't used to think that. Excuse me, but I do now. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. To shift gears a minute. Okay. We've been married 30 years, almost 31 years. Yes. I've heard the term, and we've used this term.

I've heard younger folks in the lifestyle say this, and I've heard other podcasters say this. The term monotonous or the term, you know, we've been having sex with each other exclusively for 29 years and then the past year with other people. How do you answer the question when somebody says, well, how in the world did your sex life stay? Did it always stay the way that it is now? Did it ever become monotonous? You know, through that many years, how could you possibly not get bored? How could you possibly not fall into a rut? How would you respond to statements like that?

Well, honestly, we didn't really know what we were doing when we got married as far as our sex life went. You know, we had pretty vanilla sex. Sometimes we would get carried away and do some crazy stuff. And I remember when we would do something a little out of the ordinary, you would say, hey, we got potential. And that was fun. We had a lot of normal sex. And we went through periods in our lives where we didn't have sex super often. I mean, you know, it, we didn't stop having sex ever, but it wasn't like, you know, oh my gosh, we haven't had sex twice this week. We're not normal.

You know, we, we've got to have sex one more time just to check it off the list. You know, it would just kind of ebb and flow. I mean, we had children and, and we were both working and commuting, long commutes, and our kids were in daycare, and then they were involved in stuff at night. So we were busy, and you tend to, you know, really have to struggle to keep those priorities straight. It really wasn't until our kids graduated from high school that we were able to, you know, refocus and, and really make each other a priority.

So while our sex life wasn't bad at the beginning of our marriage, it, it wasn't like, you know, crazy lifestyle sex. I don't know. But I think the thing is, is you and I were committed to our marriage and, you know, that whole for better or worse thing stuck. And, you know, being parents and full time professionals and homeowners and all that is it's stressful. So you just kind of have to sometimes ride through those periods of your life where, yeah, you want to make each other a priority, but you really, you know, have other responsibilities that you have to balance.

And then the reward is you raise these great kids that become self-sufficient and then you get to turn back to each other and say, Hey, I remember you. You're sexy. Right. So then tagging onto that, how has, how do you, how would you describe our sex life changing in the past year? And I'm talking about just like this week. It's just the two of us. How is it different now than what it was before we got into the lifestyle? Ever since we got into the lifestyle, our sex, when you and I have sex, it's intense. Not necessarily physically intense. It's emotionally intense. Oh, my goodness.

You've always looked at me with adoration in your eyes when we've made love. But the way you look at me now is different. it sometimes it almost scares me that the intensity that you, you know, put forth as you are having sex with me. I mean, you've made me cry, good cry, but you've made me cry.

Sometimes when we have our reconnection sex and you're just so into it and it's like you're trying to tell me something with your body and your eyes and um it's it's awesome yeah so it's gotten better i'm gonna say uh yeah sorry that was a long-winded yes it's gotten better okay uh okay you touched on this and i tried to discourage you a minute ago so communication now it's a buzzword and communication is a very subjective term but again can you be as specific as you can be how do you know we we've both agreed that our communication has improved since we've been in the lifestyle.

What are some outward examples of ways that you've noticed that? Examples that are lifestyle-related or life-related? No, just any kind of communication in the past year? I think I can, you know, as far as like nonverbal communication goes, I think I've learned to read you better.

You know, when you are experiencing emotions with somebody, you know, either with them or alongside them that um that they're experiencing as you get used to these new experiences in the lifestyle and having to process your spouse having sex with other people and you know whether it's jealousy or just you know that jaw dropping oh my god what did I just see or what did I just do you know it's um it's intense This is the next step.

whether it's jealousy or just you know that jaw dropping oh my god what did I just see or what did I just do you know it's um it's intense those first few times and and um if you don't share that with your partner and even share the good stuff like you know you need to tell your partner that what you just saw was hot because otherwise you're kind of leaving your partner hanging you know so you have to tell the good and the bad you can't keep it to yourself I love it.

your partner that what you just saw was hot because otherwise you're kind of leaving your partner hanging you know so you have to tell the good and the bad you can't keep it to yourself and and when somebody's struggling with trying to you know come up with words to communicate that you've you've got to read their body language to see you know if there's something that you know they're not necessarily holding out on, but they don't know how to, to get started to, to get it to spew out of their mouth, so to speak, you know, so I think we're better at that, at looking at each other and saying, you know, okay, what's going on?

We need to talk. Right. So, um, on our walk today on the beach, we talked about three specific events that have occurred in our lives in the past year or so. In thinking of those events, have you noticed any communication differences in things like that? Or is it simply around our sex life? No, Mr. and Mrs. Jones are a team. We are definitely unified. We've had, um, some pretty serious family issues to deal with the past year. And, um, you know, our family has needed us and we, um, maybe didn't handle things perfectly, but we handled them in unison.

And we're definitely stronger together than we are individually. Right. And just that unified force has helped, you know, the situations that we've been through. It's helped other people, you know, have confidence that they can rely on us for assistance and moral support and, know whatever the case may be that they need they they know that um that we're gonna stick together and and see it through right okay so we're you feel like we're more of um attacking the problem instead of each other like teamwork more yeah and Yeah. And I, I just think naturally we're a partnership.

I, you know, I've, I say it all the time. I'm your biggest fan. I'm, I'm your cheerleader and, um, I'll, I'll support you, you know, when whatever decision you're trying to make, I'll give you honest feedback and I'll, I'll, um, support your decision because that's what partners do. Yeah, honest feedback. That's what wives are for, right? Yes, dear. Okay. Let's change the focus a little bit. In what ways have you noticed that I've changed in the past year? I think you're much more aware of how I feel. You know, guys can be blockheads sometimes. No. Yeah. You included.

I hate to say that, honey. Yeah, all guys are blockheads. Some of you guys. I think I like the word tater better. You're taters too, but yeah. You know, I think you're learning to read me better and not pretend there isn't a problem. I think you just go ahead and suck it up and ask me what's wrong instead of just going into a different room and pretending there's not steam coming out of my ears or whatever. You know, whatever it is. So I think you're just much more perceptive and willing to talk things through instead of just hiding, pretending it didn't happen. What about with other people?

I think you're more confident with other people and you're a little more outgoing than you used to be. You're much more confident around women. confident around women you know when when we first got married and a waitress would um come to our table and give mr jones a glass of iced tea and and then she'd come back you know he would take two sips and she'd come back can i get you some more tea and and i would be like oh my gosh she has a crush on you and and he would be like, huh? She was trained well. Who? I'm like, that gorgeous girl that is taking care of us tonight.

So, yeah, you used to be kind of clueless. So I think you're a little bit more aware of that now. I know this isn't supposed to be about me, but in response to that, I mean, I have this rubber stamp stamped across my forehead that says happily married. Right. And I am a lot, I'm naive. I mean, in work, I mean, I would do a lot of traveling and I would always hear stories about, oh, you're going to get in trouble if you travel and you're on the road and you're away from home.

And I never noticed, you know, any kind of an opportunity to do something that would have betrayed our relationship and so that was just the mindset that I have and that you know so it it has it has allowed me to you know to get out of that box but I love the story you told me it I don't know when it was it was probably like last winter or this spring it's been a while ago Mr. Jones came home from work and he's he said you're not gonna believe what happened today and I said what and he said I was at Starbucks there's a Starbucks and Mr.

Jones is building down on the ground or the street level and he'll go down there and get a refill of a cup of coffee like mid-morning or whatever and he he said that he was waiting in line at the Starbucks and he was talking to one of his co-workers waiting in line and waiting in line and he said this lady came in and checked him out and I said and you noticed and he said yeah I actually noticed she was checking me out and I was like oh honey I'm so proud of you no no no I'm sorry but I have to correct you okay go ahead and correct me so the reason I knew that she checked me out is because the co-worker I was with was female and she said you realize this that girl just checked you out did you and I said um yeah of course I noticed that so I I honestly didn't But you acknowledge the fact.

I did. I came home. Because you used to say, I don't know what you're talking about.

course i noticed that so i i honestly didn't even know that but you acknowledged the fact i did i came home because you used to say i don't know what you're talking about i didn't yeah so make note of that out there ladies you need to be pretty obvious if you're interested in me uh okay enough about me so let's shift to um okay when we first started one of the one of the things that we talked about a lot before we got into the lifestyle and before we started podcasting was our concerns about being found out and i just want to know generally speaking now that we've been in the lifestyle for a year and a half and we've been podcasting for 10 months now where do you where is your level of comfort with being found out compared to and the reason i'm asking you this question is because just like it was for us, that's one of the biggest hurdles that we had to get beyond in order to admit that we were going to get into this lifestyle is there's always that risk of being found out.

And I imagine a lot of other people have the same concern. So where, where are you, where is your level of comfort or do you have a level of comfort? I'm only slightly less panicked about it now than I was a year ago. Okay. I do not want to be found out. Well, that's a given. I mean, I am comfortable enough now with the lifestyle because I don't want to be found out. I'm, I'm not getting ready to say that, but we have met so many wonderful people in the lifestyle. They're not these, these like icky key party swingers from the 1970s.

And if you're a swinger from the 1970s, I'm not, I'm sorry if I just said you were were icky but it's not that's not the part of the lifestyle that we're entering we are meeting intelligent articulate sexy professional people that have similar families and careers that we have and are very you know responsible people that don't want to be found out either. I mean, it's not, it's not this seedy sub society that I think a large part of society thinks it is.

However, I really don't want to be classified as part of it because our vanilla friends would not understand because their, their perception of swingers is still that I'll see you next time. I really don't want to be classified as part of it because our vanilla friends would not understand because their, their perception of swingers is still that icky 1970s leisure suit Larry key party image that we all have in our minds. Right. You know, Mr. Swapfu always talks about, well, what can we do to help the swing community, you know, become, I guess, a better resource for the swinging community.

The Swap Foos are podcasters. Oh yes, they are. They, they were our very first podcast. Yes. So I, you know, and, and I would love for mainstream America to understand what the lifestyle is all about, you know, as far as that it's a marriage enhancer and not a marriage crusher, and I'm not cheating on my spouse and this and that and the other. So what would happen if our family and friends found out? I mean, we'd probably lose some friends. I think our family would be confused. I don't think we would be disowned from our family. No. Um, I don't know. I just, I don't want to go through that.

And, and the main reason I don't want to go through it is the added burden that we have of this podcast. Our conversations are out there on the internet and, um, on a lot of people's iPhones and they listen to it, you know, as they're traveling to work every day and they're listening to, you know, stories about our sex life and our relationship. And, you know, that's, uh, extremely personal and private. And do I want my two daughters listening to that? Nope. Right.

But there's, you know, there's a, a part of it would be just be general embarrassment because you wouldn't want your kids to overhear what you're doing in your bedroom anyway right but beyond that though the acceptance in your mind that this is a good and a positive thing how does that and you touched on it when you said the people that we've met how does that how does that fit into the whole attitude of you know what now if i'm found out here's the conversation i can have with somebody so that they better understand what this is all about have you thought about that as far as as far as who found out well i mean I'm going to take a little bit of an embarrassment because they're going to perceive us as one way.

But now that we we've got experience in it and like you just said the positive things that have come out of it are are you better able to maybe say we'll be well let me tell you about this life let me tell you what it's done for our relationship let me tell you about you know where i'm headed yeah okay i'll give you that um you know maybe if we would have been discovered right when we first started right swinging i might have the trauma of having people find out and call me out on it might have made me want to stop right um would i stop swinging if our friends and family that's a That's a good question.

Let me ask you that question. Go ahead. I, uh, I don't know that I can answer that question. Right. Um, I'm, I'm less likely to stop now. I guess it just depends on the ugliness of the situation. Right. You know, we might need to kind of take a break to kind of regroup and, and figure out what's going on. But I do think, like you just said, I'm much better equipped to try to explain it to them. Right. You know, you don't explain the gory details of your sex life to your friends or family anyway. I mean, nobody does, whether you're in the swinging lifestyle or not.

Um, I do want our girls to know that we have a healthy marriage and a, and a, you know, a unhealthy sex life, but do I want to, do I want them to know how our sex life is healthy? No, it's none of their business. Right. They just need to know that we're happy and, and, you know, have a healthy relationship. Okay.

I know this is a little bit of, um, the, this question I'm just going to know that we're happy and and you know have a healthy relationship okay i know this is a little bit of um this question i'm just gonna have to ask as far if i came to you for a legitimate reason and i said honey this has been a wild ride but i'm just either whatever i'm burnt out on it or i'm not comfortable doing anymore or whatever if i came to you and and said, I think it's time for us to get out of the lifestyle, what would your thoughts be to a statement like that from me?

Well, if you came to me out of the blue, it wouldn't be the, oh my gosh, I'm not going to get to play with other guys or other women anymore it would be like what in the world's going on between you and i right that we are having to have this conversation so my first um thought would be to protect our relationship and if that involved pulling out the lifestyle to protect what you and i have that would be the only option right um so yeah the lifestyle is fun and yeah it's a wild ride um is it a necessary part of our relationship no okay yeah that's the answer i was hoping for okay um all right i want you to think think of one or two men specifically that you felt like that you've connected with the most in the past year okay what got it so first of all what made you choose i'm just going to say all, what made you choose, I'm just going to say two, just what made you choose those two?

Well, gosh, it's interesting because the two that just jumped in my mind are completely different in many, many areas. So let me explain. So one of the men I chose is a few years older than me. The other man I chose is a few years younger than me. So there's a pretty big age range between the two men. Um, they don't look anything alike. Um, they don't have similar personalities at all. I soft swap with one of them and I full swap with the other one.

But what they do have in common that I find intriguing and attractive is that they're both extremely intelligent men and they're very respectful men and the icing on the cake, which I like the icing best of all, is they are madly in love with their wives. And I really, really like both of their wives, both sexually, you know, they're, they're both beautiful women that I've enjoyed playing with, but I like them as people. They, um, just, they both have beautiful relationships and are just fun to be around.

So to expand on that question a little bit bit now that you know who they are and why you are attracted to them now that you have a level of comfort with them how how do you foresee potential play times with them in the future because in the background on this question is we've just full swapped only i mean really recently only twice and you know to get to that part of it it took us a while now that we're there what other sort of evolution in the form of and i know that you tell me that you don't fantasize, but now that you're comfortable with that and you're comfortable with those men, how could your playtime with them expand or continue to grow?

I kind of like, well, you know, I know you're constantly asking me and our listeners and, and yourself about experiencing growth in the lifestyle. And, and, you know, as far as growing in the lifestyle, I don't necessarily see growth as like new things we've done that I can check off the list, you know? So I don't, I don't really feel in need for that. I, I'm very happy where I am. Do I want to full swap with the couple that we only soft swap with that I'm thinking about? Well, only if the connection is there the next time we see them, if we even see them again.

I mean, I imagine we will someday. And if they're ready for it, I don't, you know, I wouldn't be like, oh my gosh, you know, I was really hoping next time we get to, you know, actually, you know, I'll be right back. And if they're ready for it, I don't, you know, I wouldn't be like, oh my gosh, you know, I was really hoping next time we get to, you know, actually, you know, I really want to have intercourse with this guy that I don't feel that way. I just want to have fun with them because they're just, they're fun to be around and they're great to talk to.

And they're, they're both just, you know, these gorgeous people that, that I can have fun with at any level. So I'm not really looking to climb the ladder of craziness of, you know, sexual acts I can perform in a lifestyle. Maybe that's boring. I don't know. Well, I mean, that's your answer. That's what it is. So, and, you know, okay, so you mentioned growth. And yes, I am always looking for ways to grow and things to reflect upon for growth.

So having said that, we are doing things now, let's say specifically, we're, we're, we've full swapped a couple of times now, excuse me, a year ago, we weren't doing that. A year ago, we didn't know if that would happen again or when it would happen again. Right. The year before that, we didn't even know if we were going to get in the lifestyle. It was just more of a curiosity. I was worried about taking my bathing suit off at Desire. Yeah. Right. So we've got two years of growth. And when I say growth, I mean at the beginning of the year, we couldn't imagine doing something.

And a year later, we were doing it. And the second year, we couldn't really imagine doing something. And at the end of the second year, we're doing something different. So looking ahead, what will we be talking about a year from now that we're not doing now if anything in the lifestyle i feel like you're pushing me in a direction so no i'm not i'm not pushing you i'm i'm really not well okay so what what I don't foresee myself being interested in doing is separate room play. Yeah, you talked about that. Right. Okay. Is that what you were thinking that I was going to say?

No, because you already mentioned that. I was thinking about things that, you know, what are we going to be talking about a year from now that, wow, thing that and it doesn't even have to be an act it could be like right now for instance we rarely play the first time we meet a couple right then the people that we've saw full swapped with it's only after we've soft swapped with them two or three times so so it could be it could anything. It could be a level of comfort with strangers that we don't know. It could be visiting a new place.

It could be trying to flip vanillas, you know, whatever, whatever it is. I just wanted to give you some ideas to give you an idea. I think everything's going to be situational. I don't know. You know, you're right. We are getting more comfortable meeting new couples. So, you know, maybe, and I think we're learning that while, you know, being a full swap couple, we say, you know, that's going to be situational.

Maybe we will feel more comfortable meeting somebody and just going ahead and enjoying full swap with them the first time out because I don't want to say it's not that big of a deal anymore, but we've been through it and we enjoy it just like we enjoy all other areas of sex with people. And you and I are coming through it unscathed. I guess that's why I say it's not that big of a deal because you and I are emotionally managing it well. And there's no jealousy. There's no, oh, it looked like you had more fun than I had. That's a bummer.

I I mean I guess we've been lucky because you know the couples that we choose to be with I think we have a fairly equal level of attraction so okay um another question and we're almost finished what about negative things you know what what since we've been in the lifestyle or over the past year, are there any negative things or situations or occurrences or play times or dates or anything that you can think of that you would say was a negative experience? well having something beyond of that you would say was a negative experience?

Well, having something be a learning experience and having something be a negative experience, you know, I think are two different things. Sometimes we get into situations that aren't as fun as other times because we're out of our comfort zone zone, or it's not really the right couple, or the, you know, the event isn't what we thought it would be for, you know, whatever reason, the location, or the type of people that are there, or it's just too big, or too loud, or whatever. Yeah, those, those give us, you know, some negative experiences.

But as far as like a negative experience between you and i i think we're doing a good job of of avoiding those um you know we keep telling all of our listeners that we're kind of slow and we're not very brave and right and that you know that may not be as sexy as exciting and exciting as it could be, you know, I think that we're being smart, at least smart for you and me, you know, so everybody else has to find their own level of smart. Right. Okay.

So last question is for those people out there who are just now getting into this or thinking about getting into it is it worth it are you glad we made the decision to give this a try yes it's worth it um it's worth it just because of the way you and i respond to each other now i think i think we see each other as I don't know you're just you're very precious to me now I think I understand what a gift I have in you and you know I don't know if I'm experiencing that because I'm watching you with other women and I'm like hey you know enjoy that while you can because he's coming home with me you know so I don't know if that's it or Here we go.

because I'm watching you with other women and I'm like, hey, you know, enjoy that while you can because he's coming home with me, you know, so I don't know if that's it or if it's just the, you take such good care of me when we're at lifestyle events. You, you know, I always feel kind of sorry for the guys and I have to say, it's not just you. Most of the men in the lifestyle do an extremely good job of taking care of their wives. You know, you guys can't drink too much because somebody's got to stay sober.

Um, you know, if both of you are drinking too much, then, you know, that's just a recipe for a bad decision. And, you know, so you keep an eye on me and you make sure the people we play with are going to be, you know, people that we're going to feel comfortable with and that you're going to trust to be with me. Because, I mean, let's face it, women are somewhat vulnerable when you get into sexual situations. So you do a really good job of, I guess, screening the people that we play with. And I think you have very good intuition that way. What did I miss? Anything that I didn't ask you?

Or what are your closing thoughts? Because that kind of puts you on the spot. We got into a conversation when we were on the beach the other night, and I started asking you questions and so this is really unrehearsed. So I, but before, I can't, they're all the questions I want to ask. Is there anything else that you wanted to say to either couples out there or ladies out there or to me to kind of summarize what this whole episode is about? Well, I think it's a big decision to enter the lifestyle and it's risky.

It really really, it really, I think, um, it's a big decision to enter the lifestyle and it's risky. It really is risky. I don't think that you can sugarcoat that. Um, if you value your marriage and you're willing to open it up, that that's a big decision.

And every couple has to make that decision for themselves just because you listen to a podcast or you watch a tv show or you read a book or you read all this craziness on reddit or what you know whatever your source is for gaining information on what the lifestyle is about and what it feels like to be part of that lifestyle you know you you have to make that decision on your own and and know that you have to you know be thoughtful about the steps that you take as a couple and you have to make that decision on your own and know that you have to, you know, be thoughtful about the steps that you take as a couple and you have to make sure that you stay side by side with your partner and that one of you doesn't get ahead of the other.

I think that's the biggest, when we meet couples, the biggest red flag that goes up isn't that the couple doesn't love each other. You can tell the couple loves each other, but sometimes we run into couples where one spouse will be way ahead of the other spouse as far as their willingness to get involved in the lifestyle. And it's kind of, um, it's sad because they get so enthused about it.

They forget to look over their shoulder and make sure their partner's by their side, you know, and, and the partner, you know, will be emotionally standing a couple of steps back with these huge deer in the headlight eyes, like, Oh my gosh, what are we getting ready to do? And, you know, maybe, maybe that partner wants to be in the lifestyle just as much, but they need to take it at a different pace.

So, you know, you got to go at the pace of the slowest person in the room right whether it's you and your partner or whether you're talking about the pace of the four people together if you can find that that easygoing pace of the slowest person in the room and you everybody kind of sets that as the standard then it's fun right so thank you for answering my questions well thank you for asking me i mean you know i'm a an introspective yes we've heard that person and i love talking to people that we meet in the lifestyle about their stories and who we who they, who they are.

But of course, since you're the most important person in my life, um, it means a whole lot to hear you talk about these things too. So thank you for that. And I know in the future, you know, you may turn the tables on me, you know, we haven't talked about that yet. So, but I will say that, you know, I, I certainly appreciate you more now.

Um, especially more now, especially now that I see you with other people and in other situations and other men attracted to you and other women attracted to you and the way that you handle yourself and all of the things that you've talked about in the past hour as far as how we've grown.

It's evident to me, and I feel, um again this i mean after 30 years just fortunate that you know what we were just it was kind of dumb luck i mean we we are really fortunate that we found each other when we did and that we were compatible and that we worked through this now it did take commitment and a lot of work but there are a lot of people that we meet that you know weren't as fortunate and right and i anyway thank you for that mrs jones and i just wanted to say i love you i love you too only Thank you. All right. Well, so hopefully you enjoyed that conversation. I know Mrs.

Jones enjoyed it. Right, dear? Yes. I felt a little bit on the hot seat. I guess the title is worthy of some of the anxiety I felt, but I think it was pretty eye-opening. I learned a lot about myself. Well, you can always decide to get me back someday. Yeah, don't worry. You can turn the tables on me at some point in time. You know what was really amazing is Mr. Jones did that without notes. I mean, he didn't really plan it out. It was so spontaneous. And I couldn't do that. I'm going to have to sit down and compile a list before I put you on the hot seat, darling. Yes.

Well, okay, let's get to our snapshots. So we have been promising to read snapshots, and we are a little bit delinquent. We've received a few of them. We're going to read two of them tonight. And I'm going to read one, Mrs. Jones will read one, and then we'll share snapshots with us. But before we start, please, back to the email, feel free to send us your snapshots. And remember, a snapshot is just a little snippet from a lifestyle experience that you've had. And it can be funny, it can be romantic, it can be sexy, you know, it can be whatever you want it to be.

So you call it your own and just try to keep it, you know, a paragraph or two and send it to us and we'll be happy to read it. So I will go first. We have an email snapshot from B, the husband, and S, the wife, from Syracuse, New York. so here we go. This is funny for us. Embarrassing for another unnamed couple. We played with this couple in a group setting before and now it was time for a one-on-one session with just them. We met them for drinks and things moved to the hotel. He was really, and this is really is in all caps, really attracted to us.

Things progressed to the hotel he was really and this is all really is in all caps really attracted to us things progressed to the bed and he pulled an american pie and i had to stop and think about that movie for a minute but he actually went on youtube and pulled up that scene didn't you i did Did I watched the scene again. He pulled an American pie. He came before he even put his penis in. Poor guy was totally embarrassed, and S was like, what the fuck? I figured out what happened, so I put a rush on things. What a gentleman. Funny stuff happens in the lifestyle.

Yeah, I guess funny from one point of view but maybe a little bit embarrassing and i can kind of relate you can kind of relate to that i can but i mean some guys have trouble like getting hard they have performance anxiety you're the exact opposite right i mean you're you're just like let's go yeah yeah so i kind of can feel for the guy, american pie guy but i'm getting better at controlling myself oh my gosh that would be embarrassing or funny depending or frustrating well yeah i think it would be frustrating both for for the uh lady that missed out i wonder if he had a guy i wonder if he had a condom on i don't know you think that just slowed him down maybe he a little bit.

Maybe he hadn't even got to that point yet, the poor guy. Oh, tragic. Okay, well, you have one to read, too. And Mrs. Jones, you're so sexy in your bra and your panties and your reading glasses and your headphones. Thank you, honey. I love you, too. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Oh, I swear.

Okay, so this couple says, We are new to the whole swinging thing We had been talking a lot about it And decided to take a step forward and make an SLS account And start meeting people While browsing SLS one day I noticed a posting for a nude pool party That was relatively close to us And asked my wife if she would like to go While we were both a bit about doing it, we decided that we wanted to go and be around a bunch of sexy nude people. We figured, hey, we can go and have a nice time and maybe meet a nice couple.

Worst case scenario, we get to get all hot and bothered looking at the hot sexy people and we can have some steamy sex together. So we got our invitation to the party, found a babysitter, and eagerly awaited for the day to come. Both of us were very excited about dipping our feet into this whole swinging thing. My wife got a cute outfit to wear. We packed a bag with all kinds of sexy things in it, and we got on the road. We pulled into the driveway of the residence and noticed a woman getting a small infant out of a car.

My wife and I looked at each other, and she says, this has got to be the wrong address she was of course correct so not a great start to our first sexy swinging experience however we finally found the right house and my wife tells me that she now needs a few minutes of sitting in the car she's nervous once we made it out of the car we both immediately realized that we have made a terrible mistake. Now, I have an amazing ability to find beauty in pretty much any woman. I can overlook a lot of faults that I think most men couldn't.

That being said, I was having a terribly difficult time finding anyone that either I or my wife would have been interested in. We ended up sitting down with some people. They took us in and we ended up chatting with them for the rest of the day. Night came, vodka was imbibed, clothing came off, and my wife and I were ready to have some fun. We had heard that there was a playroom and we decided that we wanted to get to a more sexy place. So we asked where it was.

So we were pointed in the direction of an old rundown trailer and tentatively made our way towards it i'm wearing just a trailer did you say trailer i said trailer okay an old rundown trailer okay well you could have just said trailer okay so the husband was just wearing a pair of shorts and his wife was in well nothing she's stunningly gorgeous in clothing and amazingly hot without anything on so needless to say i was ready to have some fun we walk over to the building aka trailer so we walk over to the building open the door and step inside for our first taste of people engaging in group play.

What we expected to see when we walked in was a nice room, couches, maybe a few beds, and some people having super hot sex. What we actually saw was a writhing mass of naked bodies in a corner humping like, well, um, I'm not really sure how to describe it. Imagine the most unpleasant thing you can, then overlay that with people having sex. Add in a touch of mildew smell, plus an American flag do-rag, or two. Look up do-rag if you don't know what that is. With a pinch of bad music. Quite the ingredients there. I know. This is what we saw.

Need needless to say my wife and i turned around after a few minutes we felt that it would be bad form to go running out of the building trying desperately to remove our eyes from their sockets and we made our way to a trampoline i wonder if the trampoline was supposed to be a sex bed i don don't know. That actually might be kind of fun. Yeah, it would be. Kind of like zero gravity almost, you know? Yeah, yeah. Having never made sweet, passionate love, or any kind of love for that matter, on a trampoline, we jumped at the opportunity. Ha ha.

We ended up having spectacular sex on a trampoline under a clear sky filled with stars. It was actually quite lovely. Oh, my gosh. I mean, so you have these words in a sexy story. A rundown trailer. Mildew. Mildew. Do-rags. American flag do-rags. American flag do-rags. Yes. Trampolines. Only in the lifestyle. Sweaty humping bodies. Yeah. A pinch of bad music, that's a recipe for disaster. Now, the amazing thing is that they were pretty resilient because they did not run screaming from the lifestyle. And that's a testament to them.

Yeah, the email went on to say, so we just kind of shook it off and tried to try again and i and i think you know you and i kind of have that philosophy too there's been a couple of times where things haven't gone exactly the way that we thought mr jones if you would have taken me to a party where i was supposed to have sex in an old stinky trailer that probably might have ended our lifestyle career i think so i am in complete amazement of these people. Yeah. Yay them. Yeah. Good for you guys. Yeah, right. Thank you. Thank you to, let me see. This was A and F for sending that snapshot.

I think thank you. Yeah. Puts things in perspective. I think that excellent entertainment as bad as bad as you think you have it just remember that that's right you could always go to a house party and a stinky mildew trailer right okay so i guess it's my snapshot now yeah yeah this is kind of an audio snapshot i had an audio snapshot yeah so last weekend we were playing with a couple that we just described in in segment one um we got to the point where just before we full swapped and Thank you. We were playing with the couple that we just described in segment one.

We got to the point where just before we full swapped and, you know, I had gone down on her and she had gone down on me and we were kissing and she's such a good kisser. And I took a little bit of I came up for air and I looked at her and I said, so what are you interested in? And now keep in mind, this lady is very classy, very beautiful, um, very intelligent. Uh, we had great conversation. She's very sexy. And so anyway, we, we get to this point and I said, so what, what do you want to do next? And she says, you want to fuck?

I said, I'll be be right back so I did not hear that yeah you didn't hear that yeah you want to fuck so that audio snapshot um yes I mean the answer was yes and I raced I knew that I raced I raced to get a condom and and that's what we did wow yeah so it was that that was quite an invitation and i think it was just so hot the way that she said it because i didn't really expect those words to come out of her mouth it was i thought maybe should we discuss full swap you know it was but now it was like you want to fuck so yep wow so that's my snapshot because we had kind of talk i mean we had talked about our boundaries ahead of time so we knew that that um full swap was on the table for all four of us so right so you know good for you to make sure that everybody was still on that same page before you i think i'm grab the condom i think i may have like grabbed two and thrown one to him because So, you mean i wanted to make sure that well he had some i don't know where his were well no but i mean she gave the invitation to me but i don't know that the two of you had a chance to talk about it before i was up and looking for condoms so and we caught up quickly yeah yeah okay so that was your snapshot yeah that was audio snapshot so my snapshot actually started back in july when we had dinner with them um up in dc so we had had a a lovely dinner a great meal great conversation um they had been desire to desire before too so we spent a lot of the evening talking about our desire experiences so that was some fun sexy talk and we were kind of trying we we got to that point at the end of the meal where we were trying to decide if um the four of us were looking forward to taking our relationship to the next level you know so we we finally started getting to um some sexy talk and i can't remember how it came up but um we were we were talking about i guess our style of play and you know whether we were soft swap or full swap or you know did we like it like fast and rough or slow and sensual or you know kind of you know what our personalities were i guess and and the gentleman looked at me and he said i i like to uh take it slow and sensual sensual and i like to make sure that I guess.

And, and the gentleman looked at me and he said, I, I like to, uh, take it slow and sensual, sensual. And I like to make sure that I have time to explore every inch of a woman's body. And he said that looking right at me when we were at dinner and it just like knocked all the air out of my lungs. I was just like, Whoa, I like that idea. That was so hot. So, and I never told him how much I appreciated him saying that. You mentioned it to me after we left dinner that night. Right.

But so now, you know, two months fast forward and we finally are with them and actually have the opportunity to be intimate with them. And we were playing dumb card game right and i think who was it was it you or the the other wife that drew the card about having to say something what's the sexiest thing what's the sexiest thing somebody's ever said to you like in a group play situation or whatever so i think one of you two drew the card And I said, well, I want to answer that card too.

And, um, so I, I told everybody that, you know, I, what he had said to me two months prior was one of the sexiest things anybody had ever said to me. And, um, I was kind of glad to get that off my chest. And yeah.

So did he explore every inch of inch of your body um it was a good first start i think he made significant progress yeah yeah so both downstairs um with me sprawled across the love seat and then upstairs in the bed yeah yeah that was a lot of fun that was a lot of fun i think the message they sent us after that evening was that they felt really good about the entire evening and i did too yeah you know they it's nice to find lifestyle friends that that you feel like you don't have to try so hard with right and we've been fortunate we we're starting to get quite a nice handful of couples that that we have a nice comfort level with and and we're getting to the point where we're not so worried about you know our boundaries as much they're expanding and we're right so hopefully we're more fun to be around yeah right yeah exactly well i mean but you mentioned uh when we were at dinner with them you know you don't want to keep going to dinner with people you know i mean the first dinner is good you want to get to know somebody but after that really you know do you want to play or you you should know by then you should know by now are you willing to take it a step further or right otherwise just kind of cut your losses and try to find another couple where you do feel more of a connection with right so those are our snapshots and thank you for our two listeners who sent us snapshots and we have have a couple of more, um, that stored up for next month and we would love to read more.

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It does. It really helps kind of push us to the top so we're easier to find. Right. So what did we forget? Anything, Mrs. Jones? Well, we do have a house party coming up in a couple weeks. Oh, that's right. Yes. And this is hosted by a couple that have invited us to a house party before. Right. We've gone once and then they invited us again and we were at the beach. Right. So we weren't able to go. So luckily they kept us on the invitation list and we're going in a couple weeks. Well, you know what? They're on SLS. Uh-oh.

And so before I closed our SLS account, I sent him an email and I said, hey, please write our email address down because you're not going to find us on SLS. Uh-oh. And so before I closed our SLS account, I sent him an email, and I said, hey, please write our email address down because you're not going to find us on SLS. And he did. He sent us an email. So good. So he went to extra trouble to invite us to the party. So we are very excited about going to that because they do an amazing job. Yeah, yeah. Great hosts, great people. Yeah, we're looking forward to that.

And we have friends from Desire that, um, are coming into town for like a family wedding. Oh, right. That same weekend. Right. Um, and we are going to get together with them and probably hit some wineries or something because they're from Florida. Yes. So she's, they're the couple that we talked about in our Desire episode that did body shots off of she and Mrs. Jones. Yes, so we have a nice connection with them. So we're really looking forward to catching up with them. They are wonderful people. Yes, so we're going to try to get some more. We were talking about that today.

Now that kind of our summer is over, we need to get our lifestyle calendar moving forward. Yeah, we've kind of let it kind of settle down, and we've got to get things moving. Yeah, and I think, you know, we may have a house party in our future. Yes. I mean, I think we're getting to the point now where we've hosted a few people. We have an empty nest. You know, we have a few extra bedrooms. Or we could do your business idea of starting a lifestyle bed and breakfast. I know.

I said, when I grow up, maybe we could like open a lifestyle bed and breakfast because, you know, so many of our lifestyle friends still have kids at home, so they cannot host people at their home. And, um, Mr. Jones and I love to host people at our home, but we do not necessarily live close to our lifestyle friends. So it's inconvenient for them to have to schlep all the way, you know, out to our house. So the only other option is to meet at a hotel, which is certainly fine, but you know, it's not always as warm and as inviting as somebody's home goes. No, it's just more relaxing to be here.

So I said, wouldn't a lifestyle bed and breakfast be amazing? Yeah, that would be amazing. You know, it would be a place that would cater to lifestyle so that you could actually have the home set up for, you know, a little play area. And then you'd have a room for people to sleep in and you could, you know, have all the amenities there waiting for them instead of a sterile hotel room. Right.

So let us know what you think about about that idea except i don't want to have to run it because then we would be busy every weekend and we wouldn't get to play i know i know that's true so anyway um we will see you all again next month and thanks for listening we are mr and mrs j, and we got a thing. Why are you just now telling me that there's a right and a left and how to laugh and a microphone oh mrs jones i'm just the sexy voice honey i am not the technology