Episode 103: Facing First-Timer Fears at Desire Resorts

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This podcast contains explicit language and content and is for mature audiences only. Hey you teenagers out there, if you're under 18, this show is more for your parents. So now that you have that mental picture stuck in your head, put some music on and get back to doing your homework. We are a long-time married couple who's decided to chronicle our personal adventures and share our sex-positive discussions as we navigate our way through the swinging lifestyle. Care to join us?

hello everyone i'm mr jones and i'm mrs jones and we want to welcome you to episode 103 of the we got a thing podcast welcome back to the land of the living i know man we've been home from mexico for what three four weeks now yeah and i am just now feeling like human not like a human being again so you go two years without getting covid yeah and then when things get back to normal you come home with the flu yeah i came home with influenza type a immediately went to the doctor got some tamiflu tamiflu worked like a champ but i never really got completely better and then like a couple weeks later i ended up with bacterial pneumonia that's all yeah so i got lots of good drugs for that and i just now feel like i can take a deep breath again without dying i know which is why we haven't had a podcast on until now a breath without coughing.

I know. I wasn't going to do that much editing. Breathing was a luxury. But you know what? What? It was worth it. I think, well. Maybe not the pneumonia part, but yes, it was worth it. We had so much fun in Mexico. That's the best trip I've had in a long time. Really? Yeah. Well, we'll talk about that in a minute. Yeah. So episode 103 is about a lot of people express a fear about going to a clothing optional resort, whether it's Desire or Hedo or otherwise.

And so while we were at Desire, we had a group of our friends that were traveling with us record a podcast at Desire and we're going to play that for you tonight yep and so you don't have to just listen to us you can listen to people who are in the midst of the experience and talk about their their perceived fears and how that went for the week yeah it's really good good stuff we're putting our travel calendar together for 2023 which is going to be another busy year yeah well and and i'm trying like i'm like trying to protect our calendar next year because we're going to be in the midst of building a house from a long distance right and i'm going to be wanting to go down there and check on it all the time yeah just another thing for you to be stressed out about.

I know, but this is good stress. That's going to be fun. I didn't know there was a difference. So they'll probably break ground, what, like late winter, early spring, maybe? No, early spring. Early spring. March, I'm thinking. Well, that's late winter. Like the spring equinox isn't until March 21st. I bet you they'll break ground before then. If you say so. Whatever happens, happens. Hey, they applied for the building permit for the lot next door to us today. And that's hot off the press. That's big news. Whenever it's done, it's done. I know.

I've been obsessing about following this Facebook group of people that are building a home in our neighborhood. And like this one guy keeps going on to the county website and downloading the like the building permit status for all the lots in our community. Yes. Obsessing is the right word. Yes. And I have to pretend to be excited. No, you have to pretend to be cool about it because you think I'm dumb for doing it or silly or whatever. And deep down, I know that you're just excited to get that information as I am. Wow. I'm just nerdy enough to like collect the information and organize it.

I mean, they gave us a four month window. It's going going to be done before the end of next year, and then we'll worry about that when it happens. Well, right. So, like, you're trying to, like, book all this stuff, you know, on our travel calendar, and I'm like, hold the train back a little bit. We might be moving then. No, we can move whenever we want to. It's a second home. You know if we're going to want to be down there. I know, but we don't have any. It should be stress-free, honey. We should be enjoying this. I am enjoying it. Okay.

So coming up, we have an event in San Diego that we still have some slots for that we're filling from our community, and that'll be in February. That's shaping up nicely.

We have some nice things planned for that weekend there are still some slats left for our desire november 2023 trip and that's going to be november 11th through the 18th grand michez is starting to sell out but we do have a few rooms left june 17th through the 24th and the promo code for that uh is grand g--a-n-d-22 yep and grand michez has had a few bumps in the road and they've delayed their opening which caused some disruptions in people's plans and they've had to make a couple of changes as to what where the clothing optional parts of resort are, but we're going to go down in april and check it out yeah we'll we'll check it out thoroughly and report back come back with the scoop then i think it'll be fine if you can't be nude at the pool mr jones i'm just going to make you wear a sexy thong like i did at the mansion i don't know sexy don't know.

Yes. Have you, like, you need to look in the mirror more. You have a really great ass. Okay. Like it's little and it's tight. Those are your butt cheeks. I'm not talking about other parts. Again, little. Little's not a good descriptor for a guy. No, your butt cheeks are very sexy. Okay. Well, thank you. But I'm not a thong. I'm not a fan. Well, you know, that's just because you don't like that going up your butt. Well, I'm not going to be wearing board shorts. Right. Because if I can't go naked, I'm going to have as little on as possible. So it doesn't have to be a thong, though.

It can be one of those, like, bikini briefs or something.

Well, you can wear those some days, too, but, like, you have a couple thongs from the mansion trips when I make uh when i challenge everybody to do the extreme bikini day i participate i know you do and your ass looks great well thank you honey so anyway change the subjects you're starting to sweat aren't you we're doing a weekend event in washington dc um and on in the first week of may of 2023 we have secured a contract with the hotel yep and we have secured a contract uh with a place to take everyone for for dinner and entertainment you know we've been doing these events for like three or four years now and we finally figured out we live in an amazing city yeah why should we fly anywhere I know.

Just do it here. here and spring in dc is usually a beautiful time to be here so we're also excited to have katherine and michelle and kel from expansive connection join us that weekend in dc and a special guest kate from wanderlust and from pcap is going to be in town yeah and we'll attending. It's going to be a fun weekend. We've got a couple of other ideas for workshops that are going to be formed in the next couple of months. And we will, again, fill that from within our community. So if you're interested in going, please check out our website and join our community. We'd love to have you.

We're going to limit that to about about 60 couples but that's going to be a lot of fun and then lastly we have two new subgroups in our community one is professional networking so we have a bunch of people who decided that you know they wanted to do some networking professionally from an entrepreneur standpoint and a professional standpoint so So we have a new group there. And also, interestingly, we have a Morsems group. We've had quite a few couples in our community that are now in multi-person or multi-couple relationships.

And there's enough people that are giving that a try or have experience in that now that are curious about it curious about it and there's a really a lot of good discussion in those groups and i think one thing we're learning is that every quad let's say because that seems to be the most typical like collection of of people in our community right now um they all kind of do it different because you've got to you've got to make it authentic yes and have authentic relationships among the four of you and um every time we talk to somebody we learn something new because they have a slightly different twist on how they manage it and the one thing that is consistent though is that to a person or to a couple they have all said that they did not anticipate or they were not looking for this kind of relationship it just found them right which we think is really interesting so anyway if that interests you our community continues to grow and we're excited to have these new subgroups.

So keeping up with the Joneses, I'm feeling good. Yep. I'm getting used to my tri-mix. Seems to be working well. Yep. I think we got the dosage down. We got the dosage dialed in and we we'll talk about that in a minute, about Desire. But we took it to Mexico with us, and we had some good success. That's right. Getting our feet back on the ground together. And then in two days, we are doing something that we've never done before.

Yes, we're ditching our family for the holidays and we're going on a cruise yeah we had cruise credits that we found out we had to use before the end of the year so we're we're sacrificing and um covid is still haunting us this was a 2020 trip that got canceled yeah so we're we're flying to florida on in a couple of days and we're going to go on a cruise during Christmas week. Yeah, talk about, okay, stress. It's a stupid, like, winter storm that is, like, turning into, what are they calling it? Some sort of a bomb, like a storm, blizzard bomb or something like that. Whatever.

It's not really affecting our, like, the East Coast, but it's like, where's our plane coming from? Yeah. You know, I'm a little stressed about that. I mean, we're flying down a day early. And we said, if worse comes to worse, we'll get in the car and drive to Florida. We're going to be on the cruise one way or the other. Flights get canceled, we're just going to drive south. Yeah. We'll just keep driving until we get there. And it's just the two of us. Yes. We're looking forward to that. Yes. Get you all to myself on a boat that's all decorated for Christmas.

They're going to cook for us on Christmas. Like we're going to be spoiled. Yeah. Instead of working our tails off. And we celebrated Christmas on Sunday with our family. So it's not like we completely ditched them. It's such a relief to get that over with. I know. I know. And not have to worry about it. And then we, this is the first time that you and I have never done any gift exchanges at all. Not even stockings. Nope. Not even my birthday. Nope. Nothing. Nothing. Just a Christmas cruise. You're not complaining, are you? No. I'm happy about it. I didn't have to do anything.

Because you do most of the shopping anyway. I know. I mean, you still had to do shopping for family and grandkids and stuff like that. Yeah. I had to get everything wrapped early. Oh, my gosh. But it's over. It's done. Yeah. Stress-free now. We're just going to be able to go and lay in the warm sun and drink frosty beverages on Christmas. So we're going to, that's about all we need to update everyone on as we close out 2022. We're looking forward to 2023. I am definitely looking forward to 2023. 2022 has not been my favorite. Now's the time to get your travel plans together.

We'd love to meet you in 2023. We have a lot going on. But when, as soon as we come back from break, well, you know what? You said before that this was one of your favorite trips to Desire. Do you want to expand on that a little? You know, I don't even know why. I guess my head was just in the right place. I just went and I realized, well, I think I know why. We've done a good job. And when I say we, I'm not talking about just you and I. I'm talking about the people that attended our week this year did a good job of connecting beforehand.

We have one couple in our community that has done a really, they've been very proactive about organizing Zoom chats like months and months ahead of time just to kind of get to know each other. And then as the trip got closer, you know, the meetings became more frequent and they had like an agenda for each one of the meetings and, you know, icebreakers and breakout rooms. So when people got there, a lot of people already had at least virtually met each other.

So I think it took a lot of the pressure off of you and I to make sure that people were feeling included and connected, et cetera, et cetera. You and I just kind of got to like be on vacation and meet people and just have fun. And it was such a good feeling.

Yeah, I think by now i don't know what is this our fifth trip um with a group we started in 2017 so yeah you know there we do have a quite a number of repeat um offenders right people that have been more than once and that helps because they already know each other but also and we have a lot of newbies as well but but it's it's becoming so much easier now because a lot of people know each other and it's more like a reunion in a lot of ways right and then the new people are that much more comfortable because everybody is already you know already familiar with everyone else.

it's easy for new folks to fit in yeah i think so so i don't know it just felt like it was just a very low pressure week for us yeah and you know we just have so many long-term friends that were there it was just good for you and i to be able to reconnect with with friends oh well the weather was perfect oh yes it was like the opposite of last year it rained literally every day this year it was beautiful every day it was there was no humidity it was sunshine well there was the one day that the weather wasn't good and it was just because of wind was the day we did the catamaran right that was fun it was fun but like weather wasn't good and it was just because of wind was the day we did the catamaran right that was fun it was fun but like it was really choppy like there were white caps on the caribbean that day i fell asleep on the front of the boat anyway i know but one of our girlfriends was she's susceptible to being seasick oh yeah and then with the with it being as choppy as it was she pretty much had to like hang out in the back of the catamaran the whole time i felt so bad for her i just realized something what that's the second time we've been with them where she's been sick oh yeah you're the first time was self-inflicted i didn't you know this was a whole different situation.

This was seasickness. But the rest of us stayed up front, and I fell asleep on the netting. It was sunny out. It was warm. Yeah. The breeze was coming up underneath the front of the can. Oh, yeah. It was a nice day. It was just really windy. And I fell asleep. Yeah. I have to say to Laura, who's the general manager of Pearl, that it was another, Desire did a great job. Oh, absolutely. They were ready for us. We had good communication ahead of time. The staff was prepared for our group.

You know, that's another reason I think that I had such a good time because we really didn't have to do anything once we got there. Right. We just had to, you know, be at the right place at the right time. Right. But Desire just, the management, the current management at Desire Pearl is just, they're outstanding. And they're very intuitive. Like, they do what they need to do, but then they make it better. Yeah.

You know, it's like they try to outdo themselves just to to make things like really special and what okay so one highlight of the week was um very special to to you and i and to friends of ours we we have good friends that um went to desire for the first time and it was their 10-year anniversary oh so that's what i thought you might pick for highlight. So they decided to renew their wedding vows while they were there, and they asked you to officiate. Yeah, we held it. Which was... That was a risk on their part. I know, it was. Because you and the wife have a very special relationship.

You really like to poke her, and she's not afraid to give it back to you yeah but it was and we had it on our terrace yeah we had a penthouse this time and we had it on our terrace in the morning right and there were probably about what 20 or 25 people there oh more than that they invited and i think about 15 20 couples ended up showing i stood on the top step of our plunge pool and they stood in front of me and I said a few things, and then our friend, White Cracker rapper, came out and did a rap song that was a surprise for them. It was awesome. It was hot as snot out there.

No no but and it was very um it was fun like she wore like a white bustier for you know her like air quotes wedding gown you know so it was fun and sexy i think all of us ladies had like um sarongs on and bikinis and i think you guys had on shorts and linen shirts or something yeah um so we weren't it wasn't a naked wedding, but it was a very sexy, like laid back wedding. But it was so heartfelt. They're just a fantastic couple. And I think it really was fun and nice for them to recommit to one another in this new environment.

this new environment because they're i don't know kind of new to the lifestyle only a year or two and i think um and it's really kind of i think transformed their relationship in a good way yeah it was it was perfect to have the renewal um based on where their relationship is at desire it was very symbolic of of how they've grown as a couple yes so it's really cool yeah that was fun and we did our regular uh the guys got together one morning and had a bourbon and cigars event and you ladies were doing your mimosas and your lingerie swap yeah that's turned into quite the event yeah yeah it's fun And we did a couple of meet and greets one night, and we did a luncheon together.

But it was a really laid-back week. It was a success, and we do have room. This time last year we were sold out, but since we added this Grand Miche strip, we still have room in both. So to be transparent, we did have a negative experience at Desire. there was a fly in the ointment yes and it was our our dealings with premier and if you aren't a regular desire you might not know what premier is and the best way to i guess translate that to the general public would be it's like the timeshare division of the Desire Resort Company. Right. Yeah.

And they are a little bit more difficult to work with. Their whole premise is that they're trying to sell you a contract with you, a membership, and that membership comes with certain benefits. And you're really prepaying your vacation for a long period of time over a span of years. And all of them are different. We're not going to get into the technical part of it. But the bottom line here is that while Alessio and Laura and Desire Resorts have bent over backwards for us and for the people that we bring, Premier, not so much. you've misrepresented some things.

Like, for example, they'll tell our group, hey, if you're with the Joneses, you have to come listen to our sales talk. It's a part of what the Joneses agreed to, which was not true. It's the opposite from the truth. We don't want you to be bothered when you're on vacation with us. And they've disclosed information about our dealings with them. They've inaccurately disclosed it. Inaccurately. So not only was it not accurate, but it was not professional.

And I'm not going to belabor this, but they just don't appreciate the fact that we're bringing them business they don't understand the the reach that a podcast has right in a in a community this small i mean the lifestyle community is relatively small so it's concentrated you know like the people that come to desire it's a concentrated group of people and um you know i think a lot of people have been brave enough to go to desire because they've heard our episodes and and like they've heard exactly what we're getting ready to present to you like people talking at desire about their experience yeah and how it's been transformative so it's not just you and i saying it it's all of our our travel mates right that that say the same thing and and there's a lot of value to that and um and premiere pretty much just completely disrespected us yeah we've tried to have a collaborative relationship with them but they're more interested in making money and so it hasn't gone it's been unbalanced in our opinion and it and it's heading in the wrong direction yeah and we're just kind of done yeah so just keep that in mind if if you if you choose to sit for the premiere talk um just be aware and and yeah make sure that it's a good financial investment for you right right and it's nothing though it's nothing that we recommend we are premiere, but I think we went six or seven times before we decided to join.

We did. And a lot of the reason that we joined is different than most people. It's because we go there so frequently.

But anyway, you just have to be on your toes when you're dealing with them because they are not as collaborative collaborative with us um as they as desire resort right and it's unfortunate it is unfortunate because to completely spin that back around to the positive as premier has increasingly frustrated us the hotel itself has increasingly impressed us yes um and we we just really appreciate the current management there and how they are not just taking care of our group but just running the hotel in general right i think they i think the management now is very intuitive and creative um to constantly make things better yeah okay we're about to move into segment two and before we play this recording that we did at desire we want to set this up a little bit a lot of people even this group have expressed beforehand that that there's anxiety around going to a clothing optional resort yeah and you know something that i noticed in the chat and something that i experienced myself is, you know, the past couple of years have been hard on people.

People have been sick. We have people that have long COVID. We have people that have just had other health problems in general. We're all getting older. And I think a couple of people that have been to Desire several times were admitting that they were struggling with self-confidence issues. The lack of self-confidence can rear its ugly head at the most unfortunate times, especially like a week before you're ready to go be naked in front of people.

and that just piles on the anxiety right and then there's an anticipation of how you think people are going to act towards you at at a resort like this and so yeah especially if you're new yeah well we decided to do because our event started on saturday yeah and then we podcasted on thursday so the week was about over so we we questioned our group about fears that they had before they got their fears and anxieties and then um what I don't know. Thursday. So the week was about over.

So we questioned our group about fears that they had before they got there, fears and anxieties, and then what they actually found when they got there and what their experience was now that they were almost through the week. So we hope you enjoy the conversation. We really had a good time. And we think there's a lot of valuable information. And then when that is over, we'll come back, share one more thought with you and then do snapshots. And we'll call it a quits for 2022. I know, put this year to bed. Okay, we hope you enjoy.

okay the first question that we're posing to the group this year is what is was easier this week than what you had anticipated prior to coming to desire pearl so we all even if we've been here before there can be anxiety um our imaginations run wild uh other people tell us things that may not be completely accurate we get ourselves spun up one of the two of you is more excited or anxious than the other we all go through this so and then when you get here and our week is almost over so you should have enough experiences to know you know sharing something that really wasn't as big of a deal as you thought it might be.

I just wanted to mention that from a lot of people we've talked to, there's a whole lot of people that come to these things that have a fair amount of like social anxiety and introversion. And, you know, they kind of worried about being in these crowds.

And in spite of my occasional verbiosity on we uh and in person when you can't get me to shut up um uh you're so cool and i are very introverted we we really need our own space a lot and i kind of wondered i wouldn't say i was worried about it but i certainly wondered since we have planted all these seeds coming down here is it going to be overwhelming not once have we felt overwhelmed um not once did we feel like we didn't have an opportunity to kind of steal away into our own space for a while and so i just wanted to kind of reassure people that might be worrying about that um that that's i mean this place is heaven period so that was it you got me to shut up for this one one of the uh anxieties that we had was unlike our previous visits to desire where it was really easy to get naked in front of a bunch of people you probably will never see again this was a resort full of all your friends and um it was a lot easier i think we built it up in our head a lot more than, uh, than it really was as far.

And I attribute that to the openness and the friendliness of this group.

So just to make sure, just to clarify, because you came before and there wasn't anybody here that you knew, you felt it was going to be easier than, than now because you have friends here, a different dynamic and it might have been a little bit more difficult to to relax it it's one thing to embarrass yourself in some in front of somebody that you won't see again um you know we we'd have to leave the community if we uh felt like we had embarrassed ourself here we kind of like it here yeah this is uh mr sandy wings also known as paco 2 this week um yeah that was crazy if they ever ask you to dance in the show just know it's a strip off and you are the show um so uh this is our second year at Desire Pearl, and for us, our first year coming in, we were brand new to the lifestyle.

We really didn't know what it was all about. We had this vision of, you know, the 70s swingers theme where the guy just has a giant porn mustache, and you're walking along by the pool, and he reaches out and yanks you into an an orgy and you're forced into a situation that you don't want to be in. We really felt that it was going to be that way. And luckily it was. No, I'm just kidding. No, not at all.

In fact, what we found was a group of warm welcoming people who understood that each person is very different but um is worthy of love appreciation and respect trust all of these things came about and we found um suddenly and on the on the very first day at Desire Pearl with We Got a Thing we found that we had our tribe and so it was a true blessing for us and this year has been no different all I see is welcome and love and hugs and appreciation so Desire Pearl is truly one of the greatest things that happened to Mrs. Sandy Wings and I. And I suspect you have a snapshot to go home with.

There's so much I could say, i will uh think of what was easier than i thought well of course it was a lot easier taking my swimsuit off when i arrived it just seemed very natural and comfortable and uh my lover and i spend most of our time naked together so so it really felt very natural. But yeah, evolving from there, having a little show at every channel has been a lot of fun and a lot easier than I thought. And we just have one more channel, channel two. Channel two. That's our goal. Thank you, guys.

so code for channels is the jacuzzi beds around the hot tub i think how many channels are there and you've been here how many days you're multi-channeling it sounds like To point one, what was easier um i'm a big guy i'm loud uh you would think that i'm pretty extroverted in most cases uh in a sexually friendly environment like this uh it can be intimidating even for a guy like me. So it was really good.

I don't even know how else to describe it, that to be in an environment where I can talk to other people naked, talking to naked people, and just be comfortable in my own skin, being comfortable being around other people, being flirtatious. We were talking with another couple last night at dinner. I'm nearly 50. I've never been in a situation where I can be flirty. That's what I'm saying.

people being flirtatious as we were talking with another couple last night at dinner um i'm nearly 50 i've never been in a situation where i can be flirty that that those flirts were accepted that i even knew what i was doing the joke in in our relationship is i don't know how to flirt and i'm sure there's several guys and ladies who would say the same thing i don't know how to flirt so how do you how do you strike up that conversation with that lovely lady that it's like she's attractive and i'm going to trip over my tongue and i don't know what to say to them and so it's been very liberating for me so that's kind of the one thing that was a little easier uh this time around for us so well if you don't know how to flirt, you're accidentally doing it well.

And he pays attention, because if you want to flirt with Mrs. Jones, bringing a case of IPA in is a good way to... Cheers.

So I think one of the things that was easier was was dressing sexy like coming to the pool and taking my top off vegas had prepared me for um but getting in the sexy outfits was a little harder at night but once you got here everyone was fabulous and the women were fabulous like women would go up to other women you were we were talking about this yesterday and they just built each other up which you don't see often in a vanilla world so you'd have the like in the hotel room like oh shit oh shit am i really going to wear this and then he walked downstairs and everyone was welcoming and it's just you guys say this is the happiest place in the world it truly is the happiest place in the world so i uh had a few struggles uh first one of course is going to dining halls with short sleeves on as you guys can see if you see me in air condition i'm probably going to have on a long sleeve shirt because i'm always cold cold.

The second struggle was putting on a bra. I feel for all the women in the world now.

this is when you wish the podcast was a video cast because you should have seen this gentleman last night in his theme night costume it it was impressive i have a struggle that i bet most everyone in this room um can relate to because they probably started experiencing it yesterday and that's the mid-holiday blues um you start off so strong excited all this adrenaline going there's all these new faces friends the costumes and fun and excitement and you find yourself not wanting go to bed, or not wanting to leave the friends that you've made, and the stories that you've made, and not wanting to leave the dance floor where maybe you're a wallflower like me.

I didn't dance before Desire Pearl last year, and I just found myself so attracted to the fun that I never want to slow down. So about day three, things start to feel a little tougher, but the second wind kicks in, trust me, it's going to happen.

So if you find yourself struggling emotionally day three, day four, it's typically a little bit of exhaustion the adrenaline coming down and so don't be afraid um and and question if you get into that situation question yourself or question this decision because it's something that everybody is facing when they're here um and trust me when i say pretty much everybody um i know there's a couple of you kooks out here that don't, but the rest of us normal people feel it. So that's just my observation.

One of the things that we've learned to combat that situation is we would come down here and travel day is a tough day. You get up early, you travel all day, you're excited, you get here, somebody drinks a little bit too much tequila, and then before you know it, you're doing exactly what you said you weren't going to do. Then we thought a good solution would be to come a day early, but it seems like the same situation applies. You just drink tequila sooner and then what how we solve the whole we're staying up too late problem is that the first night we'll stay up till three or four a.m.

and then we can compare the rest of the week to that i can say i went to bed at two so it was early so if we're talking about um struggles well obviously steam irons is one of my struggles um for those of you don't know yes i did try to steam the wrinkles out of my shirt while wearing it and i have a nice burn burn. So he has this row of little round burn marks on his chest right below his collarbone. And I'm like, oh look, it looks like Braille. That must be Braille for dumbass. Yeah, I can't wait to get home and change my Miwi name.

I just need one of our Spanish speaker friends to help me as El Jefe Dumbass. How do I put that all into one?

A challenge, rather than struggling with, a challenge for us has been to make sure that we include time for just us and so like yesterday we had breakfast on our balcony which is amazing and for me it's making time for just me i'm believe it or not very introverted and i just need to like go away for a little while and i will literally go down to the beach and just sit there for like 10 or 15 minutes catch my breath and then i'm ready to go but uh that has been our challenge and our constant reminder to each other okay we need our time because this is our vacation too oh don't put the microphone down yet okay okay the we understand the burn marks but what about the broken toe?

Well, yes, I broke my toe yesterday. And I'll just say that there were some ladies in front with the playmakers. And I might have been distracted and might have ran into a chair. And broke, I did, I broke my little toe. Thankfully, we have some physicians here who helped wrap it up, and a very sexy nurse who helped take care of me, but yeah, if there's a way to be a dumbass, I'm going to find it. Now, you should have answered, here's a little coaching. Okay, thank you.

It was a new sex position, and you got you got yourself you know on a little tangled up and you know extricating yourself from that position i gotta be honest one of my good friends and i'm not sure where is but he was going to come up with a story because he's a lawyer and he knows how to make up stories sorry lawyers um but we haven't had time to debrief, because I'm, you so but thank you we're going to come up with a really good story okay well when you come up with it like we can edit it into the podcast perfect yeah i love that thank you you may have heard on the last podcast that we were talking about um intentionally um bumping up against your challenges and your comfort zone.

So maybe a little bit of a different wording on that. If you know what your challenges are and your triggers are, did anyone experience the opportunity to bump up against those this week?

And how did go so we we're talking about challenges and uh time management is probably the biggest one when you day one you look at it and you have uh i've got seven days you know reconnect with old friends meet new friends um day two day three you still have most of your week left and all of a sudden schedules slip dinners get pushed and you realize hey you only have two or three dinners left and you have six sets of friends that you want to reconnect with and the paranoia starts starts getting in hey what are they going to think if we don't find time to have dinner with them and catch up you know will they like we used to read into things early on will they read into it and think that there was some sort of avoidance so um one of the struggles we used to have was using our motherfucking words um and we found that it was easier you know if we got into that paranoia hey you know where do we stand with a couple that we've been with before it's a lot easier to walk up and ask you know pull them aside you're having drinks in the pool and say hey where do we stand and all the things that you fill in in your head that are wrong um suddenly get laid out on the table and get corrected and it's it's much easier it's it's just taking that that risk that first step of throwing it out there and accepting whatever the answer is going to be.

One of our favorite theme nights is BDSM night. So much so that I wore my Harley boots on the plane to get them here. I have the best outfit ever. I dyed my hair purple, all ready to go. And then we got this swinger crud and we couldn't go so that was my biggest struggle not being able to attend the BDSM night and have all of that fun so I'm going to be out there tonight I'm not going to wear my BDSM outfit but hey next year maybe next year. Let's take a vote. Okay, so day three, building off of Mr. Sandy Wings, always seems like the day that we have serious conversations.

And the serious conversation this year was, I'm an engineer, which basically guarantees that I'm socially awkward. Not always, but, you know, so I get tongue-tied, I say the wrong things sometimes. I make an ass of myself on occasion. But, you know, the just working through that and trying to, you know, use some of those skills that we developed, because I'm a mentor in how it works, and I do all these other kinds of things. And then I come here and I'm like, whoop, yeah, I don't remember any of that stuff.

I tell everybody else how to go and help and do their career and be better and, you know, learn these skills. and it seems like every time i come until day three i forgot all of that and then we have kind of a re-grounding kind of conversation and mrs maestro is fantastic at this uh with kind of hey you remember how we agreed that you weren't going to make funny faces when you get uncomfortable? And instead, you were going to use these word things, you know, and be like, sweetie, can we go talk instead of doing this? So, I mean, that's something that I struggle with.

It seems like I struggle every time, and especially since COVID for me, where we were all locked away, you know, in our own houses or, you know, what have you. And just being able to get back out and be social has taken a little bit of time every trip, as opposed to, you know, where you can kind of get out there and, boink, oh, okay, yep, back at Desire, we're good. It just takes me a little while. Let me just give a plug out to the engineers. Because we have engineers in our midst.

And one of the first times we were at Desire, we were at dinner with a couple, and this engineer-type gentleman said, let me ask you a question. If one was interested in playing with another couple, how might the conversation go if this couple wanted to ask the other couple that this is what they want to do?

Because sometimes this couple might be too nervous, and I said, I think you just did it but or when there's several people trying to figure out what to say you just to ask the engineer can you just say this just say it so we appreciate the engineers and actually that was pretty much verbatim like that's not an exaggeration it was so funny and so sweet um okay so I thought I'd follow up actually with you know our conversation from the last podcast because we really had the struggle thing um and um you know I had a scenario happen I had an issue something happened with another couple, not from WGT and she came over to me the following day, and she gave me a hug, and she said, listen, I'm really sorry for the things I said.

She said, the truth is, I'm jealous of you. And I'm like, what? And she said, I watch you. I watch you flirt.

I watch you watch you what did she say she almost said like the flittering or something like that she's like I watched you work the room and work the pool and I was jealous of you because he lets you do that she watched him watch me and And she said, that's awesome, I want that work on that i was like oh my god and so i realized that what our struggle was me needing that freedom and him needing that comfort zone of feeling safe and connected to me i think we were able to get that because i felt fucking awesome and yes it is exactly why i felt as good as i did so free so good and of course you all are freaking amazing too so all of that then there was the Okay, there was a lot of wonderfulness that happened.

There are a lot of people that, when we typically record at Desire, there are a lot of people who find value in these conversations because they're looking for any kind of information they can about clothing optional resorts. And so, you have an opportunity now to speak to our listenership. Thank you.

kind of information they can about clothing optional resorts and so you have an opportunity now to speak to our listenership they're out there you don't know them they're thinking about coming to this resort so how would you describe the the desire experience to somebody who's really intrigued by this but um a little bit reluctant to have the courage to, you know, to attend. So what is your takeaway based on your experience here? How do you translate this into words that someone else may understand? This is not like me.

I'm total total introvert you may not believe it but i am and to go back to the struggle first of all trying to get everything packed in five suitcases was a struggle so we came with six um And to have somebody give information, some help, being on the website and into the little groups to help out, like specifically a ladies chat for things women want to talk about or the book club and go into more details about specifics, that's a big help. one of the things I was really impressed with is I details about specifics. That's a big help.

One of the things I was really impressed with is, I don't know how to put it, as quiet as I am, someone reached out to me, and I felt, this is crazy okay so okay so i was approached by somebody for advice about photo shoots and i thought holy shit what the heck me i'm trying to learn how to operate a remote control, a tripod, doing it with a cat running around my legs, wanting food in the morning. It's just, it's crazy. And I thought, okay. And then to come here and meet that person face to face. I don't know, it was priceless. Thank you.

A couple years ago, or three years ago, I think it was, with their first trip here, we've known this couple for a few years because we live reasonably locally and um we came out to front i think we were here at pearl at dinner one night and we were we talked too long and we didn't have time to go back and change and one night a week sometimes they do a ladies fashion show out here and as i walked out my sweet friend was rocking the runway. And not only was she getting herself down it, she was doing it in style.

And I just busted out crying because I was so happy to watch this sweet lady come out of her shell and just be her authentic self that was really hiding in there and managed to find her way out. It was just, it was beautiful. So you Thank you.

lady come out of her shell and just be her authentic self that was really hiding in there and he managed to find her way out it was just it was beautiful so you've come a long way baby and her husband was in the corner with the paper bag so i've always struggled with getting out of my own shell and being here with this group of people has allowed me to just open up and be who is really inside and um when i'm terrified to go talk to a group of people i just look at myself and say just just go and it took me a few days but every time i would just break into a group it was completely welcoming and um just the ease of of talking to people and wearing the ridiculous things that i've worn this week uh you know i just couldn't couldn't think that i would be able to do everything that i've done and it's been super easy and super welcoming and i can't wait to come back next year um i just wanted to say that i last year we booked this trip um couldn't couldn't wait to join this community because i'd been listening to the podcast um but we'd already booked a trip to hito before i'd listened to the podcast for last october well then 30 days before we were supposed to go we picked hito because we were like well if we're going to try this let's dive in head first glad we ended up here so um we we had 30 days before we were supposed to go the cdc elevated jamaica at a very high risk so we had to shuffle things around and we ended up stumbling into a different takeover group at RM for last October.

Not our tribe at all. And yet, I will say, we had the most amazing week, had all these lovely conversations.

The first thing you're so cool and I, and I'm true romance, by the way, the first thing we found ourselves so enamored with was just in the community in general, not just we got a thing, but enm community in general this mass acceptance this body positivity and sex positive we could not believe all the different sizes and shapes of people just celebrating their humanness unashamedly you just do not see that out in the world and by halfway through our trip we were sitting off to the side as we often do um in one of the canopy beds watching all these people dance and i literally started sobbing because i could not handle any more joy and that's that's what i feel like these these communities so my point just being for those considering going to a place like this it's just so welcoming and inclusive it's it's Just amazing so that was that i think this is probably our fifth time here at desire and we've come to pearl each time we've been twice um on our own and three times with the we got a thing group and i think the thing that i would say to those of you that are thinking about coming and maybe are on the fence is the moment you arrive, you feel like you're home.

The staff here is amazing. They just do everything for you. They want you to be happy. They want you to feel welcome. Anytime they do something for us and we tell them thank you, you know they put their hand over their heart and they just are so happy to please and it feels like home whether you're with the group or not and so coming shouldn't be a concern having said that when we come with the we got a thing group we we have all of our amazing friends.

And it just is so much more enjoyable because we look so forward to seeing each of you and experiencing things together and having dinner together or chatting in the pool or whatever it might be. It's reunions and family, and we so enjoy that and appreciate coming here if for no other reason than that my husband and i've been here several times this is our second time with we've got a thing and my first few times here i have to admit i was scared shitless I got here, they were welcoming at the door, and I was so nervous that I couldn't even breathe.

We got to the room, and my husband said, let's go downstairs, let's get to the pool, let's get naked, and I thought, fuck. A light bulb went off in my head, and I said, shit, that's what we're here for. Like, what did I get myself into? So first few nights, the first few days at the pool was fine. Got my clothes off, got the nerves gone. By the third or fourth day, everything's going great. You start meeting people, start having nice conversations. Third or fourth trip here, not only did I have nice conversations, I had a group of friends. These are friends. These are amazing people.

Amazing people that leave their high-stress jobs, their desks, their kids, their work lives behind and become real become real with her husbands become real with their husbands, become real with their friends, and these are people that you meet time and time again, and you say hello, and not only do you say hello, you say, hi, honey, and you mean it, because they are truly your friends, and you come back every time, and you say hello. So we were going to come here in Thank you. Because they are truly your friends. And you come back every time and you say, hello.

So we were going to come here in 19. And because of COVID, we're Canadians. Our damn government shut everything down and said, you ain't going nowhere. So we wanted to come in 20, cancel that. 21, cancel that. And here we are.

and one of the things i did out of my comfort zone this time around was i got my photos done and the whole time i did it i was just like scared solid pictures and then a lot of people that i know said looked at their pictures and went that's not me i did the same thing but anyway this time around time around, knowing more faces, knowing more people, getting to know everybody and become comfortable in my own skin is truly rewarding because they say it right at the front door.

Welcome home because it's so bloody true because this is somewhere where i can be me i can have a great time and have friends with benefits um so what i would want somebody to know who has never been here before because this is our first time um does have to do with the body positivity and and that there's every size, because in my mind, you only go to a clothing optional resort if you're 6'2 and 110, and you're a woman, and so in my mind, everybody was a supermodel, but we got here, and there is every size, every color, everything that there is under the rainbow is here.

And everybody is perfectly imperfect. I've seen more lower body lifts, scars, more, you know, breast surgery scars. And for me, I've had a double mastectomy. And so to walk out in front of everybody with my perfectly imperfect breasts that are not trying to kill me anymore and to feel not one person has said anything. What was in my mind, what everyone was going to say and everybody was going to be in corners saying, look at her. And nobody has said anything other than, hey, you're beautiful. And that is the gift. That is the gift of this community. That's the gift of a place like this.

And I just didn't think it was possible. So I thank you guys for introducing us to this. I appreciate it.

So Pearl and the joneses are heavily interlaced with our lifestyle journey um i've been listening to you guys for a number of years um love the content love the the concept of the lifestyle scared shitless to bring it up with my lovely um i was afraid of losing her because i i heard how incredible this community was and the lessons and everything you had from the podcast it was fantastic but it was a piece i wasn't sharing yet with her and i was scared because that was the risk if i brought it up and didn't didn't get the response I'd hoped I'd be done with marriage number two at that point and where was I going to be and so it was scary but I went back and listened to episode one and you guys said just book a trip to Pearl and so we were talking about let's take a winter vacation we'd been to cuba we didn't want to cuba again i'm like well let's try zara pearl why pearl oh um clothing optional so we booked it we dug into it a little we mentioned some of the there might be some lifestyle people there um you know will they grab us and throw us into a van and whisk us away maybe we don't know um so we got here um very dear in the headlights uh worried about that swinger it's going to jump out of the darkness and whisk us away and the fears went away throughout the days and to the point where like my lovely had no problem being clothing optional within the first day it took me four days in the hot tub and it wasn't until the day we were leaving when i had all the clothes and the swimsuits packed away i'm like well i'm gonna get in the main pool naked because i don't want a wet swimsuit on the plane However you rationalize it, engineer brain.

But we enjoyed it and from that sparked a lot more conversations about okay what does the lifestyle really mean we started listening to more podcasts re-listening to your podcast quite a bit and having a lot of those conversations to the point that we joined the community met a ton of you wonderful people so when the opportunity came to travel to vegas with you in june and especially here this week we jumped on it and so i will say first of all thank you to you both for the community that you've built um it's been a lot to us meant a lot to me uh beyond that um pearl's just got a happy place for us so if you're the listener out there listening right now get out of your own way you're already thinking about it if you're listening to this episode right now you're already thinking about it broach it with your significant other have the conversation but get out of your own way because that's who was in my way we might have been here sooner but it was me who stopped it not my lovely so that's really good advice get out of your own way because sometimes we're our own biggest obstacle so one of the things that mrs jones and i what one of the things that inspired us to build community was way way back in episode 37 when we were outed we felt an overwhelming amount of support from people that we didn't even know.

And that was really nice, and it was really helpful. But our thought was, we shouldn't be the only ones as recipients of such support. and so what we are experiencing I think what a lot of you are talking about and explaining is very fulfilling to us because we see you all struggling with the same things and getting support like we got support and it's really heartwarming you know for us to see that happen because we felt a little bit guilty that, gosh, we have all these listeners and all the support. So when we have shit, we share it and they make us feel better.

And how can we how can we possibly create something like that where other people can get the same kind of support?

as this trip grows and as this community grows the idea is that it's never been because of the joneses it's because of the of you all it's because of the people that come it's the people that get out of their own way it's the people that bump up against their comfort zone it's the people that take their bathing suit off or whatever it is or show up after a mastectomy and stories like this are powerful and it's a way to help people who don't know about this understand that it's about being human that's all this is and that the resort and the lifestyle is just a means to an end and a means to get there a lot of the thing that i'm trying to we've tried for years to describe to the desire staff this is a concept and the concept is uh all-inclusive mexico drinks food, don't have to wear clothes and a really nice staff that's the concept they don't really fully appreciate the people that come here if if we didn't come here this place would be a concept but you all make it a reality and that that's where I think if they understood that, you wouldn't see 22-year-olds on their website as a way to market because that's really not what this is about, as a lot of you all have expressed.

And I can say, you know, based on my health situation in the past year, the number of you who have reached out to me personally, reached out to Mrs. Jones, you know, this is, you know, we receive so much ourselves. And to be in a position where we are willing and need to receive that from you all, it's been extremely helpful for us as we've gone through this too.

And as we talk about it in the men's group, as we all share publicly, if we are a little bit vulnerable and we're willing to share a little bit about ourselves, whatever that story is, you don't understand the impact that you're having on other people. And this week for us has evolved. And we're happy that so many people come here for the first time with us.

But we also see people who are coming here because of their friendships and to points that were made here you you cannot be here for two or three years and you show up and you sit down and you continue the conversation immediately you know about the life you know about their situation and you know their names and you just pick up the conversation where it left off it's so authentic compared to, I think, what we normally deal with as we go back home next week and celebrate Thanksgiving with our families.

You know, the word I thought of when you were describing desire is, this is like a safe bubble. And we just come and we get in this bubble. And you're're free to be yourself to explore yourself and you know this is our 18th trip here we kind of like it we've had a lot of fun here we've struggled here but we always grow here and we're always blessed by the people that we meet and reconnect with and honestly Mr. Jones and I were a little anxious about coming here.

You know, we, we are obviously struggling with his recovery and to be able to just come here and frankly talk about all of our little technical difficulties that we run into. You know, we, we run into vanilla friends and family. Oh, oh, Mr.

Jones, you know, you you're how are you doing like how's your recovery going and he's like well recovered from surgery just fine you know i'm running again everything's great well you can't say but we can't have sex yet you know that you just don't say that to your vanilla friends and to be able to come here and frankly talk to you about our struggles and and our experimentations and getting our dosages right and all that stuff it's just it's been a blessing to be able to like not pretend everything's okay um and and we appreciate that and and again we got a lot of rain checks we're still going to be passing out and collecting you know collecting on so be patient with us going to get there.

But, but truly you guys are a blessing to us. And I have truly felt like I'm on vacation this week. You are making our jobs very easy because you're doing such a good job of taking care of each other and, and having fun with each other. Well, we hope you enjoyed that conversation that we all had together in the restaurant at Desire Pearl last month. I think there were some really heartfelt stories that were shared. And there's one more story that was shared with us in writing.

The lady that shared it, the people that were at Desire are going to know exactly who this is, but she preferred to share it in writing versus talking. So I'm going to read that for you. Okay. All right. So she starts out saying, so most of you aren't going to believe this, but the captain debauchery stuff is not really me. I've led this life where I've had a lot of pressure. I've always been a very, very hard charging person and very hard on myself.

The first time we came to Desire, we were at Riviera Maya and I saw this beautiful woman who had a captain's hat on and she was just like all lit up. I mean, she was amazingly sexy. She and I had a long talk and some things happened to me that day. She just made me feel free, like there was this permission that was granted for me to just be free. And now, thinking back on it, I don't even remember her her name but for some reason she took the cap off and she put it on my head and said I think this is for you now.

Wow so last year we came to Pearl with the WGT group and I brought the hat with me because it's kind of like my desire hat. So I brought it with me and I put it on and as I was getting in the jacuzzi one night, all of a sudden, it was like my spirit animal woman just kind of came into me, and people looked at me like, hey, what's up with the hat? And I remember looking at them, and for some reason, I just blurted out, I'm Captain Debauchery. So it's a Navy sailor's hat. Right. Yeah, like a ship's captain hat. Right.

And it was like this other side of me had permission to leave my high-powered, high-stress job to inhabit this other space. And I just got goosebumps. It felt like bungee jumping, or that's what I imagine that must feel like. So it's like I'm free-floating. It was a very serious and meaningful thing for me last year to just get up on that mushroom kind of table thing in the middle of the jacuzzi and be the center of attention. All of a sudden, I was doing a body shot on everybody and anybody.

Then I paused for a minute and when I noticed everyone looking at me and I thought, holy shit, this is my worst nightmare, the worst thing in the world. But then for some reason, more and more people stepped up and came forward to participate. It was crazy, sexy, awesome. But it's something I can't do every day because it's not me every day. But here in this place, I get this awesome opportunity to push my boundaries and my limits and just let loose and free float and just be free.

So I don't know how long I'm'm going to keep the hat i don't know if this is the year i'm going to give it up i did end up deputizing a few ladies this year and anyway i just know it was a heck of a lot of fun but even now it's still a struggle just coming to the edge of the jacuzzi and putting on that hat and just letting things happen letting captain debauchuchery happen. So thank you all for giving me that space. She has quite a reputation. She does. Captain Debauchery. And she has quite a following. Yes, she does. And what's funny is we're pretty good friends with her and her husband.

And she is a completely different person with the hat on.

i mean she's a lot of fun without the hat too right but she like she said she's kind of free floating with that hat on it really does bring out her alter ego right and what a great safe space to let that happen yeah that i think that's what i love about desire it does create this safe environment where you truly just let your hair down and you don't give a fuck well the word transform comes to mind because that that week um even if it's just that week and in that environment it's and even if when you come home most of us still have to pin it up or button it back up yeah and uh get back to real life and that's the that's the reality of kind of hitting reality after a weekend like that or a week like that.

But even within that week, you know, she found an opportunity, you know, to discover something new about her just by putting the hat on. Right. So we appreciate you sharing that. And I'm sure you're the Captain Debauchery fans out there are appreciative of. Oh, she has quite the following. Yeah. Well, and what she was doing, though, I mean, it's one thing to get up there and say that we had these people were coming up and doing body shots. There were people that would have never done body shots before. Right.

But because they knew her and trusted her and got caught up in the whole thing, they just felt comfortable doing that. So it's not just about our friend and being Captain Debauchery. It's how through her being liberated and free that other ladies and men were coming up and responding. Oh, it's not about her at all. No. No, she's like, when she puts her hat on, she's the instigator. Right. And people are just drawn to her. Right.

And then I think one more thing before we get to our snapshot is we had other friends down there that we met earlier this year at Desire, and they are from South America? Yes. And so English is their second language. They're very, very fluent in English because they've spent time in the United States. But what did she tell you about that? Well, you know, she and I were talking. Well, first of all, she's absolutely stunning. Yes, she is. And so is her husband. Oh, whatever. Okay, whatever.

But one thing that she mentioned, because we were talking about having this recording and what we were going to talk about during the recording. And when we were talking about the biggest unknowns and the biggest fears and the biggest struggles that you have, either just anticipating that you're going to have or that you actually have when you get there, she said one thing that they struggle with, and her especially, is trying to communicate in a language that isn't your primary language, even though she's very fluent. She said it's hard to be sexy in your second language.

And I was like, wow, because I have trouble being witty and sexy in my only language. And I mean, that really was eye-opening for me. And actually somebody else said that to me as well that week, and they weren't Hispanic. They were from Europe, and they have the same kind of struggles. You know, whenever you're communicating your second language, I guess you're constantly translating. I don't know, because I'm not bilingual. Yeah. But I imagine that that's just an extra struggle that you have to, like, process and manage. And she taught me a new phrase that week. Oh, yeah?

Yeah, that I don't remember. And that's going to irritate her. But I know what it's translated to. Well, you know what that just means. We just have to get together with them again so she can give you another little tutoring session and reprimand you. Honestly, I didn't really try that hard because I knew it was bothering her. And when I know something's bothering you, I'm just going to keep at it. So she learned that about me. Well, I do have to say she might think that she struggles to be sexy in her second language, but it's not a problem. No. Not at all. No.

So our snapshot, I think we're going to have a mutual snapshot this week. Okay. I mean, we really didn't know what to expect sexually from each other. and we didn't know how and if we were going to be able to play with others just because of my health situation and learning the tri-mix and how that was going to fit into the week. And we've been out of the game for such a long period of time. One thing we did get to do, though, when we were at Desire is we did get to talk to several gentlemen that used the TriMix.

But one thing that we're learning is that it's kind of different for them versus you because they're using it to assist. Right. And you're using it from scratch. I'm 100% at the moment dependent on that. So your experience, it's just, it's a little bit different. Right. But that was good information for us, you know. Yeah. And it's just so nice to be able to talk to people about this stuff. Right. You know, normally this is stuff you just really can't. Oh, it's been a topic of conversation in our men's chat.

yeah because a lot of men a lot of men are using it and a lot of men are are thinking about using it because i'm a fan yeah so anyway it's just um we're we're still we're still figuring it out yeah so we didn't know anyway we we were laying on our bed we had a bed next to the pool and we both of us were laying there and it was What, midweek? Yeah. And one of our new friends came up to us and she kind of leaned over and she she invited us to join she and her husband and another couple for a play session and the way that she she just she was so direct and also so polite.

And so she left the door open. I mean, and she said, look, I know where you guys are right now, but we really would, we'd love for you to come join the four of us. We're going to be up here in this room in a few minutes.

And if you decide to join us, we all love to have you but if not we understand and you know the decision is up to you yeah and it kind of took us it took me off guard i don't know about you well i had seen the four of them leave together so i knew i knew what they were doing i mean it they didn't make it obvious but the invitation though but oh no i did not expect her to come down but when she came down i knew exactly and when i saw her coming down the sidewalk i had a feeling that that's what she was gonna say and then obviously she said it and we kind of and she stood there and you and I kind of looked at each other and i was like well um well and then she left she's like no pressure we're gonna be up there for a while like no no rush right um and we said well we'll talk and if we're gonna be there we'll be there within 10 minutes yeah otherwise enjoy yeah and we talked for about 10 seconds.

Yeah. And we grabbed our stuff and we made a go at it. Yeah, we did. Well, I went, so that's one of the things we have to manage. So I went straight to their room and you had to go back to our room and take your shot. Yeah. And so I went ahead and went there to let them know that we were going to participate. Right. And it was probably one of the most fluid and low-pressure group play opportunities with six people that we've had. Yeah. And because the other couple we know really well, too. Yes. So, I mean, one of the couples, it was our first time with them, but the other couple it wasn't.

And there was laughter. There was a lot of squirting. Yes, there was. It was impressive. There was a lot of changing partners. You know, was just a toys toys and we i got up and got myself what people were getting up to take water breaks it was the middle of the afternoon it wasn't two o'clock in the morning yeah which makes a big difference um you know just it just reminded me what this is about sexually, because it was laid back. There was laughter. Everybody was enjoying everybody. There was no pressure. There was no awkwardness. And fortunately for me, everything worked. Yeah.

You got your dosage right. And then we ended up, you and I ended up finishing with each other, which was perfect, I thought. Yeah, it was fun. Like you said, it was very, like, low pressure. Yeah. Yeah. And again, that's kind of how I felt all week. It was good.

And, you know, another time that we played was it kind of started out oh it was an evening thing we invited a couple back to our room to get in our plunge pool with us one evening but we knew everybody was tired and and this and that so we just kind of hung out in the plunge pool and then we made a date to have an afternoon, another afternoon play session. Yeah. And, um, and that worked out really well too. Yeah. This playing at two o'clock in the morning is for the birds. Yes. And I think we did that once maybe. Yeah, but it wasn't.

But that was at the beginning of the week and we were still fresh. It was good. But it wasn't as successful as it was later in the week. Yeah. Well, I think we made up for that later in the week with that couple, too. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did. Yeah. So, yeah, we're getting smarter. Well, I mean, you don't get any sleep. It's 2 o'clock in the morning. You've been drinking all day. In the sun all day. Some of us are older. So if you look at the metrics, you know, the variables around it, it doesn't add up to a lot of success.

So, yeah, the two play experiences that we had that were really, really good were during the afternoon. Yes. Highly recommend that. Yes. If you can pull it off. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of hard to find time, but I think we managed to do it at the end of the pool time before the jacuzzi time. Right. Or maybe we skipped the jacuzzi one day, I think. Yeah, one day we skipped the jacuzzi, the afternoon jacuzzi, and just did the nighttime. But then the nighttime jacuzzi is fun because the pressure's off.

You don't have to worry about that two o'clock business i do have one gripe you were not about the 2 a.m tacos this year i you know you're welcome no no you're welcome i like 2 a.m tacos you're welcome for getting your ass into bed early every night so that you had energy for the rest of the week yeah that's true because 2 a.m tacos turns into 3 a.m bedtime yeah instead of 1 a.m bedtime yeah two hours a night makes a big difference and we did go for tacos the last night right and we went i think the first night yes we went twice yeah can't do everything honey i know that's true well as you heard a lot of people had a good time we hope you enjoyed this um there is still room for next year we'd love for you to join us um and other than that i think we're pretty much done with uh happy holidays happy new year and.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, your birthday was Sunday. Which we celebrated Christmas on. Oh, I'm sorry. Like, this going on a cruise at Christmas time thing like was a little brutal. And then I like had pneumonia. So that's okay. My two year old granddaughter walked across the room with a birthday gift for me. That's true.

That all worth it yeah and she clearly called you your name which your name is not an easy name right so like i'm mimi and you know that's no big deal your your name's kind of unique it's two initials and it's it's not yeah they're hard to pronounce when you're two join us next year and join our wgt community. We've got a lot going on this year. Yes, we do. A lot of new groups. Please email me if you're interested, mrjones at wegotathing.com. Or me at mrsjones at wegotathing.com. Our website is w-e-g-o-t-t-a-t-h-i-n-g.com. You can contact us through our website.

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