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Speaker1: This is C. And this is D. And this is Swinging Down Under. Well, kind of is. We are joined tonight by our good friends, the Atoms. It's a crossover event. Hello. We're doing a crossover. It's like the family guy. You guys already created a spinoff with us. Yes. So now we're doing the crossover. So I'm wondering who I am. Welcome to Ba the Ba. I'm Mr i'm mr adam and this is mrs adam and we're taking over this podcast see it just got real uh we are currently holidaying for easter on our in radelaide swing cation And look, I've put a bit of a dampener on the fun for the evening.
Speaker2: Negative goes, Ryder.
Speaker1: To be fair.
Speaker2: The pattern is actually full.
Speaker3: Gross.
Speaker1: That's terrible, terrible. And yeah, look, so instead what we thought we'd do is we thought we'd chat to you guys and have a bit of fun talking about the podcast. I think we broke Mr. Adam.
Speaker2: Yeah, he seems to have lost his shit. We've concocted a few last-minute questions.
Speaker3: We have.
Speaker1: For those out today who listen to us regularly or reasonably regularly, you may remember we actually interviewed the Atoms six, seven months ago.
Speaker2: It seems like a long time ago.
Speaker1: Somewhere around that. Yeah, and we thought we'd check back in and talk to you guys about maybe what they've been up to since then. Because we're handy. Yeah, I mean, you're handy. And there's also been one or two things that you've been up to that we're aware of, like a whole new podcast. Just trying to steal our shit. A whole new podcast. Oh, wow. Yep, we're into the... we're into the musical part of the evening now. Theatrical-themed part of the evening. Wait till you see my jazz hands. Ladies, find my spirit fingers. I was going to say, I like the spirit fingers better. Yeah. Personally. Look, I mean, so tell us. I mean, it's been, yeah, maybe six, seven, ten months.
Speaker3: We don't know.
Speaker1: It's been, it's been a period of time. Um, what have you guys been up to? I mean, what's changed since we last spoke to you guys?
Speaker2: I changed my underwear.
Speaker1: Only once?
Speaker2: Yeah, just once.
Speaker1: Oh, I need to work on that. They are mesh, so they breathe a fair bit.
Speaker2: No, these aren't.
Speaker1: Oh, no?
Speaker3: No.
Speaker2: Hey, hang on, hang on. We'll do a, a, a, a show and go. Okay. A show and go. All right no? No. Hang on, hang on. We'll do a show and go.
Speaker3: Okay.
Speaker2: A show and go.
Speaker3: All right. Accept it.
Speaker2: Just keep care.
Speaker3: Okay.
Speaker1: Okay, so we're back now. If you missed what just happened there, we had a little interlude where Mr. Adams got excited by showing us his underpants and broke the podcast.
Speaker3: But we're here.
Speaker2: I broke it. Yeah, they fixed it.
Speaker3: All right.
Speaker1: Let's see them. Let's get a demonstration happening.
Speaker2: I wish I had rip-off pants,
Speaker3: I'm going to see you next time. I broke it. Yeah, they fixed it. All right. Let's see them. Let's get a demonstration happening.
Speaker2: I wish I had rip-off pants, but I don't.
Speaker3: Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah. All right. They're black.
Speaker1: They show the ass off very nicely. Can they come closer and get a slap again?
Speaker2: Oh, good study.
Speaker1: Ooh, good study. Slash, nice. So they're black and shiny. What are they made out of? Some kind of polyester faux leather or something. I don't know. Polyester. Polyester and spandex. There we go. Awesome. Fantastic. They're quite lovely. Where do they come from? Max internet the interwebs the magical interwebs fantastic actually while we're at it let's do a little explanation on what mrs atom is wearing tonight oh yeah actually it just went up on twitter a little while ago it's uh it's a white uh semi see-through top cami uh with with a nice white little G-string on number underneath it, which means the Atoms are podcasting semi-naked and C and D are in jeans and T-shirts. C's got a jumper on as well. It's whatever you're comfortable in. Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing with swinging. It's all about being comfortable. Comfort and consent. Comfort and consent. And it's amazing that either one of us have clothes on anyway. Yeah, good point. She and I like... To not have clothes on. That's true. So aside from changing your underpants, what have you guys done since we last week?
Speaker2: So I don't know that we actually discussed this trip, but so our manticore, the really cute one that I found and had been. Got you in my car? No, no, the other one, the other one, the other really cute one. So the one that I went out and had a coffee with, and then she and I, and he went out to our local pub and had drinks with. He's got a boyfriend. Oh. So he's out of the Manticore scenario. Oh, wow. Last week. No, did he have a boyfriend coming into this? No. Or no, he's found a boyfriend. Yes. Oh, for him bad for us it's great for him i'm very glad for him but the night that we were good i was going to go over to his place and that was going to be our first kind of foray into fun uh he texted me i was like you know i gotta be honest i just started dating this guy this weekend and so that was a wednesday that i was supposed to see him and then started dating him on sunday like seriously people yeah look i mean as you as you guys say
Speaker1: in your motto you love love so it's fantastic but at the same time yeah whatever back to the drawing board i was looking forward to watching some of that that's a shame well that's upsetting what about you mrs adam any um any exciting you have lady grinder now uh yeah so i've been playing around with the app Her and seeing who's in our area and, you know, if there's anyone of interest. And I've chatted with a few ladies on there. There's nothing real serious or anything particular going on there, but just kind of scoping some people out and some general chat. So maybe at some point something will come up. But just, yeah, having it for now awesome fantastic that's great i mean i haven't um i haven't even looked at the her app have you no never seen it didn't even know it existed until i heard about it on the podcast this is really lame podcast um i think it's by the by or something oh that is awesome yeah i love that i love that that podcast. I listen to it every time. Me too. I think you're outnumbered here. Negative Nelly. Oh, stop it. Actually, that leads me into something that I was curious about. I mean, we were talking about earlier some of the… By curious about? By curious about. Some of the apps we use or methods of meeting other people in the lifestyle,ers or bisexuals or what have you i mean what what else are you guys using nowadays to to find yeah let's let's open up this i was gonna say so uh grinder is still is still my number one and you know i took some screenshots you go ahead and talk for a minute about her while i find the screenshot because i knew that you guys amongst everybody else above everybody else would appreciate some of the messages that I get sent um so I try to screenshot the ones that I think are funny had the uh and and of course there's Thrender you you had a pretty savage blast on Thrender for a while thought that was quite good yeah no it was great now it's gone so um let's see actually so I've got very short attention span i get everybody out there the problem is thrinder is really non-committal it's easy to ignore so what i'm finding is that and this is an assumption couples or singles play with it when they're drunk and get excited and they build something and then they don't look at it for the next three weeks gotcha and then they get drunk again and they're like they start talking about it again and then you'll get a message so we'll i'll make a connection and say hi to somebody and then you know you won't hear anything for two or three weeks and then you'll get a response and it's usually a response at about you know friday saturday night two three a.m are more – Oh, Grindr. I could message people right now. In fact, I opened it when we first got to this place. I guarantee if I opened it, I'd have at least three new messages because my picture is awesome. But, like, here's one. Hey. And then it's just a nice cock shot. You can see this is what it is. And so I respond with the very friendly hello, random cock because, you know, why not um but that's not my favorite one and and has that person read your message can you actually tell you can't tell if they have that's a shame because i'd like to i'd like to be able to see that um talk amongst yourselves oh here it is um yes so this was my favorite one that i've gotten in this i got this the night before m Mardi Gras, which I think is great. This is an opening message. This person has no picture, no information on their profile. Would you fuck me outdoors in the dark from behind? I'll be waiting on all fours. Where are they waiting? Is there a street address? Time to meet? That's all it says there. I responded, geez, again, dad. I asked you to stop messaging me and blankety blank blank no response no response because people see that and they're like oh he's a cunt yeah it's true yeah so that's um but especially when the profile has no picture no information nothing nothing i love when people message you and they have nothing in their profile it's completely blank and empty profile and they expect a response right and what about the her app i mean do you have do you find that that's the same thing you find that you're messaging people or they're giving you strange messages i mean they're non-committal her is is a little more like tender in the fact that you both have to like each other before you can send a message okay and so if i like someone then they have to like you know it'll a notification that, hey, this person wants to chat. But until they like me back, that's not going to happen. So it's it's a little slower in that in that respect. So that seems the same as Tinder. It is. It's a lot like Tinder in that regards. OK. But it's also I would say overall it's a much slower, longer play than Grindr because, you know, I'll go on there and I'll look at girls and I'll send a message or I'll like something and it'll be two or three days before you ever get anything back. And so it's just a much more prolonged process. It's not as instant. It's not like it seems like Grindr guys are sitting there waiting.
Speaker2: Boys are all about the shagging.
Speaker1: And since we got here, since before we left for dinner, I've had five new messages. One person is 113 meters away, so he's in this building. And so do you think then that on Grindr you would have a guy just ready to have a one-night stand right now? I could, yeah, absolutely. And what would you say about the HERS app? No, no. It would, I mean, once you get a response, possibly, but it generally takes a couple of days to get a response. And do you think that women are seeking one-night stands or do you think women want an emotional connection? More of an emotional connection for sure.
Speaker3: That's why.
Speaker1: That's the delay right there.
Speaker3: Yeah.
Speaker1: And the people that I've chatted with on HERS, that's what they want is they want friendship, they want a connection. Are they looking for more permanent play partners?
Speaker3: Yeah, potentially. And how's Tinder working for you, see? I mean, you picked it up now. What? No, I've actually gotten off it because I didn't get off. Yeah. No, I actually, I removed it. A few reasons. I didn't want the people in my office picking up that I was on it. But secondly, I just, I mean, we're not necessarily just looking for a single. Yeah, I know, but we can explain that on the way in. Yeah, we can. But I think it's a lot more difficult because the app itself is designed for a certain way and we're kind of going in there breaking the mold a bit, don't you think? Yeah, probably. We have friends that make a lot of their partners off of Tinder. I wouldn't think there'd be too many guys out there that would be terribly upset by the idea of shagging somebody even whilst their partner may be involved. And I will say that when we first moved to Australia, you know, when we were trying to meet people we used tender and okcupid i would say primarily and of course grinder um but those are the ones that we use primarily at first to start meeting people before we moved to red hot high and you know and on tinder because you know mr adam would have a profile and i would have a profile we would end up um you know we would end up talking to people separately but one of the first things that we said is that we're looking for someone together you know we i have a partner we're looking for someone you know and and because we had just moved here it was also friends as well like-minded friends but it was we made it clear from the beginning that i have a partner and we just moved here, blah. We're trying to meet people.
Speaker1: This is what we're looking for. And how many people would you expect dropped out from that conversation? So the people that you kind of said, this is what we're after, we're actually out, we're a couple. What was the drop-off rate, do you think, from that? All but two. In the end. Yeah, all but two. There were quite a few that would chat for a while. We have a very good friend who she I met her on OKC and she was like, I'm fascinated by you guys. I don't want to play, but I'm fascinated by you guys. And we've ended up being very good friends. We hang out and see her for her birthday and blah. She's a great, great lady. And then the other one were Sandy and Danny from our last podcast. We met Sandy via via OK um okcupid yeah i don't think there's anybody from tender still remaining um but there were a lot of people that we would chat with and you know meet up with and whatnot when we first moved here um but just as natural progression of some relationships if it falls off at some point you know if there's not if there's not a strong enough connection so okay that's interesting actually um just what we're talking about messages i've had one since we've been sitting in adelaide i've already had five that i've gone back and forth with a guy it is not a competition mr atom sorry this one's actually this one's from red hot pie and it's on it's on our profile and they're the gentleman in question said how are we what sort of pie are we talking and he's tried warm apple pie wink face which is actually quite good that's actually quite good what pie are we referring to well we're red hot pie and so he's saying you know our um our handle oh i didn't realize that yeah i guess i've never even thought of your handle i'm sorry that's okay um we've reeled you in now so really it doesn't matter anymore yeah yeah you know our real names um oh we think we do okay i just turned i just turned tinder on and i've been super liked damn girl i actually don't know what that means let Let me just figure that out. Honestly, take a look at the girl. Are you surprised? Oh, whoops. Did you super like somebody? Oh, shit. I use it a lot here. Can you... He is not your type. I'm just throwing that out there. He's got beardemic. But also, he super liked me because that... Is he cute? He's not my type. He's got beardemic. Which is, for those of you out there who don't understand, is the epidemic of the beard that is ravaging our planet at the moment. You mean the super long beard? Oh, just the beard in general. Epidemic is a strong word. Beards are hot. He's the one who super liked me. That's upsetting. I don't want to fix it. Anyway. So we've gone through that we've gone through the applications um i'm curious as to what i suppose when looking back to the u.s where you guys you guys used to play over there as well yes but what's the most difficult thing about australia by comparison to playing in the u. US or to finding people in the US or just the general swinging scene? Difficult's a strong word. Different. So at least in my experience, there's a lot more guys in Australia that are willing to say that they're bisexual or bi-curious at least. Could that be the location of where you were in the u.s though because you guys are fairly in the south but i was also i traveled a lot so new york new york is mainly the people i came across were either straight or or gay um san francisco of course everybody was mostly gay um oh i mean on grinder yeah because you'll find grinder as well you'll find straight and i'm using air quotes for those who can't see me straight guys who are just looking for oral sex that's all they just want to receive yeah it's what the girlfriends or wives won't give them that's what they want um but yeah um difficult i'm trying to think of what would be more difficult in australia and honestly i think it's probably ultimately easier the only thing that i would say is is different just because of where we are being in sydney um is that sometimes you'll get people that are a lot more transient and so you may see someone you know on an app or whatever and you're really interested in them but they're only around for maybe a month or in one case like a week or two weeks kind of thing and so you're like you know i really like you guys but you're here very short term whereas where we were in the in the u.s you know people were generally around for a lot longer and so if you met somebody they were gonna be there for a long time um and so you know in this case there's sometimes the relationships are a little more transient which is fine um except that we do you know like we've talked about before we're socio-sexual and so we want to have some kind of a connection with somebody we aren't looking just for you know momentary sex and then go on yeah okay and what about population differences i mean in terms of that's true as well i mean we're where we are now is what eight times the population of where we came from so i mean but with that said the circle of the radius in which we search is small we we're not lazy but we don't want to travel totally lazy you don't want to travel to pen so what you're saying is you don't want to cross more than two bridges which is actually standard for sydney right nobody in sydney nobody in sydney will cross more than two bridges you know you're like oh my god that person is so hot they're so hot they're in cronella i don't want to go all the way down to the shire i've got to cross two a half bridges to get to Cronulla. That's hard work. That's like an hour and a half on the train. Not worth it. And that is the thing because for friends we'll go that far because you don't get together with some friends quite as often so an hour and a half, okay fine, that's no big deal. But if we're looking at play partners, we want something a little more regular, perhaps. And that's a long ways to go, really. Do you find that you would be driving more or covering more distance in the States than perhaps you would in Sydney? Or is it about the same kind of radius that you guys are searching?
Speaker2: Probably the same, about the same size of radius. So admittedly, we only had one set of friends, one couple that we played with regularly in the States, and they lived about 30 minutes from us.
Speaker1: There was a second couple.
Speaker3: Who?
Speaker1: The nurses.
Speaker2: Oh, yeah, yeah. At the end, yeah. Yeah, and they lived a good 45 minutes away.
Speaker3: So, yeah. Two bridges.
Speaker1: Two bridges, yes.
Speaker2: Yeah, no, it was North Carolina. Two covered bridges. Yeah, that's right. Of Madison County.
Speaker3: Exactly. I had a photographer touch me. I don't know. Show the judge whether the photographer touched you, Mr. Adam. He touched my shutter. What do you guys, if anything then, I mean, what would you miss from the States and the scene in the States and swinging in the states would it be the couples that you guys used to catch up with or definitely the one definitely the two couples yeah for sure um the first ones the ones that broke my threesome cherry for sure that also we played with regularly is that like is that like a yoda we're talking yoda couple they were definitely a yoda couple had been in the the lifestyle for a very long time. Both of them had met each other, their partners in the lifestyle. And I would say as well, besides the two couples, there was a single male at the time that we met, like, honestly, right before we moved. It was like a week or two weeks before we moved that we met, and we played with once but i played with him twice okay he played with him twice but it was he was one of those guys that even now we're still friends on facebook and online but it's you know he's one of those people that i would love to have i think we could have had a very good long relationship with him um he's got a boyfriend now too yeah he does have a boyfriend now but But I would say some of the people more than anything, venues, you know, there was a swingers club type place, you know, that you could go to and whatnot. And it was really awesome, but I wouldn't say it's irreplaceable. I will say, though, it was – so, you know, we love OSS. We have not been to the other one in Sydney. I can't think of what it was. Couples Club. Couples Club. But the place that we went to in the States, the house, was gigantic. I mean, it was huge.
Speaker2: And so you – there was so much space to spread out, and you could have easily 100 people there and not feel like, pun intended, you were on top of another couple.
Speaker3: They stacked like Lego.
Speaker1: I know, right?
Speaker2: Kind of they hurt as well when you step on them they do yeah um but yeah it's uh that i do miss that i miss that that venue that venue was great because it was indoor and outdoor and it was i don't think that sydney could have a place like that no it had a good variety for of million dollars. No, I think the issue there is the property prices. You could never justify it. You could, but you'd be out on the suburbs. You'd be in the suburbs. Right, right. Which nobody would ever go to because nobody ever drives more than two bridges. Have you heard of, it's in North Rod area, Arrows, something like that? No. Okay, yeah. Apparently, it's a house as well. We've not been there. We've already tried one house in Sydney. This wasn't a house party. This was a club that was in a house.
Speaker3: No.
Speaker2: Yeah, we did that.
Speaker3: Okay.
Speaker2: There's a podcast about that. Go back about two from here if you haven't listened to it. More than two, I think. Probably our worst experience.
Speaker1: Yeah, this was the 10 ways to lose a swinger. Yeah. See, we listen to your podcast. I listen to yours as well, except for the boring bits. Which there are none. Well done, Dee. Tell us what you guys have coming up. I mean, you mentioned you were going to an event in a couple of weeks. What was that? We're definitely doing Sexpo here doing sexpo here in may what else do we have coming up oh you've got um hellfire oh yeah we're definitely doing hellfire in april i believe yeah we've been meaning to get to hellfire at some point for a very long time but it's just not coincided with our calendar and it looks like april will finally be able to make it so for those of you don't know hellfire is a bdsm kink club kink club in sydney that is only open every once a month yeah once a month apparently it was open originally every friday yeah it was every other week and now it's just once a month so apparently either they're losing people all the ksters are moving out of sydney it's like the hipsters they're all moving to new town yeah all the hipsters are going to chop wood because they all look like woodcutters they're making furniture and where is it hosted it's a it's a club it's actually they've got their own place i think but admittedly i don't know right. Yeah, there is a, it's, I believe. It's in the city. It's in the city, yeah. And they've had the same location now for a long time. It'd be 10 plus years. 10 plus years. And you have to do RSVP for that, or you can just kind of turn up on the night and get tickets? Crickets. Admittedly, I'm not really sure. We've got a couple of friends that go he actually sent a picture of what he was going to be wearing to the one over Easter and he looked really cute in it so admittedly we'll probably get more details closer to time from him but I don't think that you really have to I don't know I would assume that you don't have to have tickets you could just show up and pay and whatever yes i know there's a cover yeah i don't know we'll find that work out for the uh for the ferry ride hey it worked out very nicely we got to the island we got back just all right well i mean we might put put that up on our um our podcast just in case everyone or anyone who's listening is interested in going to Hellfire and I guess checking out the kink scene here in Sydney. You can find us. Yeah, we'll put the link up so you guys can have a look at what it's about. Yeah. So I think we're probably going to cut off here a little bit because we're now into the questions that the Adams have raised for us. This is a two-part special. It is a two-part special. If you want to hear the second part, where have you got to go? Yeah. You have to come find us. Dump. How do they do that? How do they find you guys? They would find us at wherever podcasts are sold. I'm totally editing so much of Mr. Adam out after this. That is not true. You don't really do that much editing. Yeah, and we've listened to your other podcasts. You do no editing. You know why? Hashtag keep it real. For reals. I love it. No, you can find us at www.bythebye.com.au. And that's B-Y-T-H-E-B-I.
Speaker2: For those spelling folks out there. And then you can find us on Twitter at the Atoms.
Speaker1: Of love.
Speaker2: Of love.
Speaker3: Yeah.
Speaker2: So I'm thinking perhaps in future Mrs. Adams should do this part
Speaker1: because Mr. Adams doesn't appear to have the attention to detail to get it out appropriately. Listen, man, my give a damn is busted. You know what, they're the talent. They don't need the detail. The talent don't need the detail. That's right. I'm just a pretty face. I'm just a pretty face and a vinyl ass. And I'm the one that makes everything happen. That's true. Yes, she does. But we'll sign off, so if you want to listen to the second part of this podcast, you're going to have to head over and catch up with the Atoms on By the By. So for now, Mr. and Mrs. Atom.
Speaker2: Yeah, we'll see you in a next
Speaker1: song skip. See you soon. And for now, this is C. This is D. And this is Swinging Down Under.