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Apple Banned Us, Lifestyle Dating Ghosting, 55 Wild Kinks & Nevada Brothel Union Drama

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Wanderlust Swingers – A Swinger Podcast Lifestyle Stories EP216 – Apple Banned Us, Lifestyle Dating Ghosting, 55 Wild Kinks Nevada Brothel Union Drama After 11 years on Apple Podcasts, we’ve suddenly been removed from the US Apple directory and we’re still trying to figure out why We also share a real update on shooting our shot in the lifestyle after sending 13 messages to potential matches on SDC. We break down the results (including ghosting statistics), and debate whether people actually owe a “no thank you” response on dating sites Plus, a kink guessing game based on Cosmopolitan’s list of 55 kinks, and a fascinating story out of Nevada where workers at a legal brothel are attempting to unionize over controversial contract terms involving likeness and content rights Rate our dating profile photos on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/SwingingDownunder   Links Cosmo Kink List https://sex.cosmopolitan.com/pleasure/a24481923/kinks-fetish-list/ Join us at a Swingers Event https://wanderlustswingers.com/swingers-events/ Join SDC – Find swingers near you explore events https://www.sdc.com/?ref=32122 The Ultimate Guide to STI Testing For Swingers https://wanderlustswingers.com/swinger-education/swingers-sti-testing/    Support Our Amazing Sponsors Comprehensive STI testing (USA Only) with STD Hero Get 10% off use code Libertine https://mybls.com/Libertine Promescent – Sexual Wellness Products Get 15% off using code wanderlust26 https://www.promescent.com/wanderlust26 Shivers - Intimacy Gummies  Get 10% off using code Libertine https://shivers.store/?ref=libertine      apple podcast removed, swinger podcast, lifestyle dating ghosting, SDC swingers, swinger dating etiquette, kink list explained, figging kink, mirror arousal, vore kink, Sheri’s Ranch brothel, Nevada sex workers union, adult content censorship, non monogamy podcast, swinger travel, Wanderlust Swingers podcast.

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Speaker1: Apple banned us dating, ghosting and 55 wild kinks and Nevada brothel union drama. So ladies and gentlemen, we might have been cancelled after 11 years on Apple Podcasts. We've officially been removed from the USA listing and we're trying to figure out why. Is it puritanism? Is it policies? Is it something more sinister? Who knows? We're also going to give you a real life update on shooting your shot in the lifestyle, including our ghosting stats, rejection rates and whether you actually owe someone a no thank you. Plus we're going to dive into 55 kinks from the Cosmos latest list and test Daryl's kink knowledge and we're breaking down what's happening at a Nevada brothel that could change sex work history in the U.S. forever. You're listening to the Wanderlust Swingers podcast with Aussie hosts Kate and Daryl. If you're curious about exploring your sexuality or the swinging, hot-wifing and non-monogamous lifestyle, you've definitely come to the right podcast. Or maybe you just love travel adventures. Either way, we share our personal, sometimes juicy, sexy stories as well as Swingers Club and event reviews, interviews, interviews with other sassy people, and of course, our global swinging adventures. We try to bring you a look into the diverse lifestyle that the swinging and non-monogamous community has. We hope you enjoy. Now let's get into the episode. Alrighty, welcome back to another episode of Wanderlust Swingers. G'day, Daryl. How's it going? I'm doing well. Is it going good? It's going grand. Grand. Fabulous. That's good to hear. Boob update. I had surgery in the first week of February. Flippy boob. I had flippy tit. I'm officially back at the gym. What happened? My implant in my right breast was flipping due to a enlarged pocket. If you didn't know that was a thing, that is a thing. So I just had surgery four weeks ago and recovered and my boobs all good now. We're flipping out for a little bit there, but happy days. Less flippy. Less flippy. It's a good thing. Yeah. It's a good thing to keep your boobs on straight as a rule. As a rule. Got to keep them on straight. Except for glow parties. Well, keep them on crooked. Whichever's normal for you. Just like not have one that is crooked and straight. Is doing the thing that it shouldn't be doing. Apple Podcasts, we have officially been silenced. Apple officially hates us in the US. It's been over a month now. We have been banned off of US Apple. So we have been on that platform for 11 years. And about a month or a half ago, I realized that we have been removed off of the US Apple site. I'm currently talking to Apple Legal about it. and what's happening is I'm waiting to hear back. Good fucking luck. You know what you'll hear back? Back off. Yeah, back off. What do you think this, I mean, we don't know what it is right now. This is purely speculation, but do you think it's Apple tightening its sexual content policies? Do you think it's a larger censorship shift? Do you think it's puritanical behavior? 32% of our listeners come from Apple US. I think it's pretty consistent with the current environment in the US. I will see exactly what you're seeing. Apple's not going to change their mind no matter whether you ask them to or not. What I am interested about, though, is if everybody else is seeing the same thing. Apparently not. So I actually went and I picked the kind of 10 larger podcasts. And I looked and they're all on Apple. What's that word I'm looking for? Capitalism. There we go. I'm talking about Swinger Podcast. Yeah, no, I know. But which one do they make the most money out of? Hey, us little guys are here to Apple, all right? We don't make any money. They don't give a fuck. They kicked us off. We don't know. I've emailed legal. What are you going to do? Because that's what I was directed to do. So we'll see. I mean, let's get our legal team on this. Yeah, I'll get my legal team right on. The best way to tell if somebody doesn't have a legal team is if they use the term legal team. Even if you're a big group, you have one lawyer. We're not talking about a team. There's nobody who's got 15 people. They're just sitting there waiting to sue someone. This is a hilarious piece that I've... We've seen this more than once in the past where people... We've had emails threatening us and they've said my legal team. I'm like, mate, you don't, you'd lucky if you got a solicitor in your back pocket. Let's be fair. Yeah. So thanks everybody for the seasickness emails, by the way. I've got quite a few of them. Yeah. Probably ignoring most of them though. No, there was actually a few of them. And one was somebody who is actually in the medical field and said, this is the drug right here. Yeah. Go get it. Your doctor in the Netherlands might not give it to you. If they won't go to the UK, they definitely prescribe it here. So that's, where it's at. We're not going to go to the UK just to get you drugs, babe. That's not a thing. I mean, if we were, we were going to... We're not leaving. We're not leaving. It's not going to be ceased drugs, am I right? We'd be the only people in the world to leave the Netherlands to get drugs. Yeah, what is that about? You can probably get Molly on your street corner, but you can't get anything harder than paracetamol here. Yeah, no, paracetamol is the only way to... There's a big gap between paracetamol and MDMA. There's, like, nothing allowed in between. No, that's... If you're looking for pain relief, it's paracetamol or MDMA. That's good. Right, so last episode we spoke about reaching out to some new people on STC, which is our local dating app, and trying to kind of forge new people. So we have an update for you because people actually asked us, and I got a few emails from people asking us about this. Somebody took the piss, which I'll talk about in a little while. But we're trying to find new friends, new play partners. I bet they were Irish. Why? Just Irish people love to pull the piss. They're not Irish, but I feel like the Irish listeners are going to be like, hey. No, I think Irish, British in general, Australians and probably Canadians enjoy pulling the piss out of people. Okay. To be fair, it actually wasn't as much of a piss pull. To be fair. To be fair. So we sent 13 messages out and here is where we're at. 13 was not enough. No. Ghosted six. So that equals 46% ghosted us. Yeah. You know, I have better cut through on some of my random emails. to potential customers just like a thousand emails I'd be better than this and when I say ghosted so on SDC you can tell that somebody's read the message so these are ones that we know they've read it they've ignored us I've classified them as ghosts six of them 46% unread three so 23 still this was like you did this on a week ago replied with a no thank you one yep which was a very polite I really like their no thank you actually it was really lovely you know it was actually a really nice one which really sucks because they seem like nice yeah yeah Stick that in your pipe and smoke. We are hot, attractive, funny, lovely humans, but yeah, nah. Yeah, nah. But you're not. But you're not. Replied yes, three, with a positive response. So that's 23% positive response. And everything in percentages always sounds so much better or worse. That's why I did it that way. Look, I've highlighted that in green, babe, because I think 23, listen here. You think that's a win? I think I'm classifying that as a win. I realise it's 30%. 30% on 1,000 emails set to random people. You know what? My glass is half full, buddy. Oh, no, it's not. It's only a third full. It's not even a third full. It's 23%. So it's 76%, 77% empty. What I will say, though, is out of the 23% that said yes, that sounds so much better than three, I'm still trying to set a date up with these people. So we'll see how this goes because in true Dutch fashion, it may very well be a, yeah, let's catch up. And then all three, I'm like, great. One of them, I even said, do you want to have drinks this Sunday? That was two days ago. I'm trying to set drinks up. So, you know, more to come on that. But what I did want to talk about is ghosting on a first message. Should people have the courtesy and the etiquette of sending you a no, thank you? Or does it unnecessarily open you up to the question, the rebuttal of like, why do you owe anybody anything? Not technically. What are your thoughts? I think it matters. I just don't think people are obligated. They don't know you. There shouldn't be any obligation of a response to a random person reaching out to you. Otherwise, all of the marketing emails I get at work on a daily basis. Can you imagine every single marketing you brought back and you're like, oh, look, your product looks amazing, but we're not in the market right now. It'd be like, I'd have 10 a day, I think. And that's after a spam filter. So yeah, no, I don't think people are obligated to respond. Nice to have, but not necessarily required. No, I think if you go a week where somebody doesn't respond or two weeks, then after they've read it, they don't want to talk to you. Yeah, that's okay. Going back to the red on this whole situation, the whopping 46% are being ghosted. You said last time we need better photos. We need to strategize. What are we doing? Jesus, we're going to do that live. Yeah, what are we doing? It's time for a profile update. What's going to perform better? I don't know. I've never been through a performance review on my swinger profile. We need a 360 review. Maybe just some search engine optimization for our swinger profiles is the way to go. Here's what I might do. I might actually put our current profile photos up and ask people what they think of them. Oh, gee. You know what? Big cutting. I'm going to put those. I might drop them on Patreon. This is probably the easiest place, but come over on Patreon. I'm going to give you guys a real current as of today. You know, if somebody will respond to one of my photos, it'll just be with the number three. And I'll be like, what's that about? And they'll be like, that's how many chins I can count. And I want you to tell us what you think of our photos and what we should be doing better. Let's do that. That'll be funny. But going away from that, what do you actually think we need to do? Hire a professional photographer? Do we need to do more sexier photos? All of our photos, and this has been the case for quite some time, they're all standard. Because we're out, they're standard public photos, aren't they? Yes. That's what I was thinking. Do we need to kind of sexy it up a little bit? Well, I mean, if you go by the feedback from the people that rejected us from the specific thing in the Netherlands here, whatever that club or whatever it is. Fruity McFruit, we don't want Kate and Daryl.com. And then the other people who we know who applied, rejected and then changed their photos to something a little more sexy and got in. I guess that's part of the reason. All right. Yeah, because a lot of our photos are based off of and we're out holidaying and we're out flying the plane and we're out with our dog and here's Kate and Daryl dressed up in formal gear and here's Kate and Daryl on a weekend or a beach. It's a list of first world problems for sure. Are you right? I mean, seriously. Oh, you know, we're just out on the beach. We're just having a drink. We're just playing. We're just doing this. This is our adopted dog that has five beds in our house. When does she have five? She's got more than five. Jesus. So photos, we need to do something about them. But I am going to put up them to get people's feedback. So that's going to be hella funny. Culturally, though, what I want to know is, do you think we get a lot with these same photos or very similar ones, we get a decent amount of interest on our UK site, Australia site and US site. Do you think this is something to do culturally with Europe or the Netherlands? What's going on? I think you're looking at those. Or am I just kind of, am I throwing like a needle in a haystack trying to find reasons why people think we're not attractive? I think you're, you're. It's your fault. I know it's my fault. No, I'm saying Dutch people. All right. Anyway, when was the last time you tested that? Oh, when we went to the UK last time and we had on our travel profile that we were going to the UK and we had a bunch of people reach out that were. Yeah. Okay. So when we. In Australia too. When we went to Australia and we put a travel notice up and people were like, oh, cool. Yeah. When was the last time you did a travel notice to the Netherlands? Oh. One time we went to the club here. Yeah, what happened? A few people liked our profile. Get out. So you think it's a visibility issue? How long have we been on this site? Oh, 10 years? Exactly. So we're like at the bottom of the food chain. Oh shit, you reckon like SDC are like, hey. Start a new profile. You reckon? See what happens. I just about guarantee it. Yeah. But we're still reaching out to people. So that means, I see what you're just saying, you know, the visibility matters, but we are still actively reaching out to people. So those people are looking at us going, no bueno. Do you think there's anything cultural here at all? No. No, because it's not just the Netherlands. If it's anywhere in Europe that we've got a problem. I'm grasping at straws. It's because I'm too short. That's probably the case. In the Netherlands, yeah. 171 centimetres and they're like, get out of here. 5'8", for those who use galactic imperial units. Whatever. They're like, get out of here, short girl. Yeah, short queen, I think. Okay, welcome to Daryl's Conspiracy Corner. What's going on now? You recently, when I was giving you... Flat Earth. We're talking about Flat Earth again, aren't we? Water finds its own level. When you... I've watched too much YouTube. We were first talking about this, and I said these people haven't, at that time, hadn't read, and there was a lot more, so it's flipped over now a little bit. You immediately went, fake profiles. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Daryl's Conspiracy Corner. It's not a corner, it's more of a room. Get in your corner. No, I will not. What's up? Why do I think it's fake profiles? Yeah, well, you've been rejected, mate. Just, you know. Yeah, no, look, the rejection I can deal with, but there's fake profiles on every site I have ever been to in history. And by the way, that may not mean the site's promoting fake profiles. it may be that as an example there's a single person who's decided to put themselves up as a as a couple all sorts of things there's a whole lot of things that go on that are fake profiles we know people that do this we know people they're single who have a profile that says they're a couple yep this is i mean if we know people with our magical circle of how many rejections we probably you don't think it's actually the dating side that's like making it feel like more populated i think that what i think that is the case early on in the dating sites yeah But then, of course, they can't remove them, can they? Because most of them probably don't keep track of how many they've loaded. Oh, yeah. Because they probably haven't even, like, kept a record of, like, here's all the fake profiles we created because we're trying to make the site look busy when we started. Yeah. And now we've got volume. Yeah, we're good. But do you remember, Steve put those somewhere, right? Like, it was in a box somewhere. Steve dared me. Put photos somewhere. Fucking Steve, he screwed it up again. Yeah, he died of a masturbation industry. Injury, leave the guy alone. I mean, a masturbation industry sounds a lot more fun. Kinky Fun. Kinky Fun. Is that why you're adjusting your underpants? That's why. I was getting ready to get a hard on. Cosmo has released a comprehensive list of 55 kinks and I've picked a few that I didn't... Cosmo. Yeah. Oh, come on. I mean, it's the Bible. For who? For atheists. I don't know. For people who enjoy... I don't know what's that movie with the woman in red shoes all the time? Changes outfits like six times. Devil Wears Prada. Look at that. You're a psychopath. Hey, I'm excited about number two, by the way. Oh, God. I am also excited about the fact that you have to find a friend before then to go. Oh, man. They're really going to reject me if I reach out. I'm like, can you come to the cinema with me? Devil Wears Prada. I just want you to. Two, sorry. The Devil Continues to Wear Prada. over cinemas. Listen. Or, just throwing this out there, you can stick a stapler in my eye and push. I'll take that option. Yeah, me too. I'll make it more attractive to the opposite. No, you need to put a staple in dare eye for that to be the case. That was mean. I apologise. I picked a few that I didn't know and we're going to play a little game and we're going to see if you know or you can guess what they are. Or I can read it off the screen. Don't you dare. Don't you dare. So, look away. Okay, I've got my eyes closed. Figging. It's when somebody takes a fig and jams it up your arsehole. What is it? Figging is a sexual activity that involves placing a ginger root in the anus or vagina to create a deliberate burning sensation. I want to know, do you peel it first? We have to. I think so, yeah. It wouldn't create a burning sensation. Then you've got like square, like you kind of want to make it round. This is basically toothpaste for the arse off. Why aren't they using toothpaste? Because it's much more stingy. Yeah, I guess so. But that's figging. You ready for the next one? Who's? Yeah, okay. I need to, if you're out there figging, please let me know. Please send an email to Kate. Yeah. I'm going to get this wrong. I'm going to get some of these wrong. Kato... No. Kato... Katofilia. Can you just let me... No. Okay. Katofilia. So that's the getting laid on mountains and stuff. It is the Greek word for mirror. So it's to do with arousal connected to watching yourself in the mirror either during sex or during masturbation. Damn it. I thought it was to do with cartography. I was nowhere near it. We were actually watching a movie the other night. the lady was fucking somebody and she looked at herself in the mirror and she was like getting off you said that was weird and i was like actually i like watching us fuck in the mirror and i like hold on a second i like masturbating in front of the mirror too she was just looking at her face whilst writing somebody else in the mirror okay that is vanity that's your point i was like the whole thing like i'm getting into it she's just seeing it as vanity okay i was like you know okay well fine then i think i've got a bit of that greek word for mirror okay yeah yeah i'm all about it which is What is the Greek word for mirror? Oh, you can look at it now if you want. Have a look. There you go. The whole thing. Yeah, that's the Greek word for mirror. Minus the philia is my guess. Yeah. Okay, so catopatrono. Oh, sweet. Catopatrono. Moving on. Yeah. Just get back in your seat. Get over there. Right. Ready for the next one? Couldn't be less ready. Melalagnia. Yeah, like bologna, but no, I'm just joking. Melalagnia. Well, the only thing that I can think of is melatonin. It is sexual arousal triggered by music. Okay. Yep. Moving on, objectum kink. And that is not a Harry Potter spell. I feel like it is. It's when you make an object into something kinky. Objectum kink. It is when you get sexual feelings connected to specific objects. It's not objective kink. It's objective kink. Sorry. Objectum. Terrible, terrible reference. Queerophilia. Q-U-I-R-O-philia. Queero. Queero. It's a pen. Always a pen, isn't it? Any other guesses? Come on. No, I got nothing. to hands and fingers themselves. Wouldn't it be phalangophilia? That's what I was going to say to you, phalangophilia. I prefer it. I guess queerophilia is more ancient than phalangophilia. So people that really like to watch manicures and stuff like that, specifically the fingers and the hands, like that's an arousal. Didn't you say just the fingers? I thought you said fingers and toes. Hands and fingers. Hands and fingers. Shoulders, knees and toes. Yep. Or V-O-R-E. Birds. It is the act of consuming or being consumed or swallowed. Followed whole. Cannibalism, for example, is a form of vore. Yeah, but it's not eaten whole. Yeah, but it's a form of. How? Because it's still getting eaten. But that's not the same thing. I'm reading it. You can't just make it. Yeah, see, and this is the problem with these rags of papers, of magazines. You can't say eaten whole and then say, oh, but cannibalism is the same thing. I didn't say the same. I said it's a form of, it's a part of. So it's kind of like an umbrella. Where's the umbrella? And then. Yeah, but you're not getting eaten whole. are getting potentially a piece of you. They might just be knocking a finger off or taking a piece off your thigh. That's the best place to go as a human. Part of the 55 kink list. I'll put the link in the show notes. I think I'm vor, which means to consume all, right? In one go. Whole. There we go. Ain't nobody want to consume you. Yeah, I know. Hence the 64% or whatever it is of rejections. No. The 46% is only. Yeah, just the ghosting. That's just the ghosting. Oh, shit. Yeah, sorry. If you add it up, it's not looking great for you. It's 77. I know. This is exactly what I'm saying. 23 green. So if you guys want to read the full 55 list, please go ahead. I'll put the link in the show notes. So what is this? What is the Cosmo version? What's the title of this thing? The kinks you've never heard of because nobody does them? I feel like this is that 2000s movie sort of go-to where they started making up sexual things. And that's the, oh yeah, I mean, we had the whispering jack last week. It's like this is. The two bird and a golf ball. It's a comprehensive list of 55 kinks and fetishes. Consider this your everything to know guide to some of the most common terms in the kinkionary. Common terms in the kinkionary. Cosmo, you, I mean, I'd say you're better than that, but it's not true. I did try to look up specific percentages of people that perhaps identifies having that kink or fetish, and I couldn't find that, unfortunately. Reddit, babe. Just go to Reddit. They're all there. What I did find is research shows that at least 45% of adults reported some interest in at least one unusual sexual interest. I bet there's a trollophilia. Trollophilia? Yeah, where people get off from trolling people on the internet. I was thinking the trolls with the little coloured hair. Straight hair, but no, that's not a thing. Oh my God. Right, moving on. You know it's true. Right, we solve sex industry news that I've been watching. So it's not the Cosmo article? No, it's something else. Actually, I find it really interesting. It doesn't mean I will. I know it doesn't, but some people might. Nevada's brothel, Sherry's Ranch. So sex workers in Nevada might be the first in the USA to unionize. Historically, there has been a strip club that did unionize, but this will be the first legal sex worker brothel to actually unionize. unionized in the United States. Cool. Do you want to know why? Bosses account. Yes. They tried. So the Sherry's Ranch, again, legal brothel in Nevada, they tried to get the courtesans, which is what they call the sex workers there, to sign new contracts, which would enable Sherry's, the place, to own their likeness after they quit. So 74 sex workers filed a petition to unionize. The contract would have given the brothel perpetual rights to likeness, ownership of content during employment, Power of Attorney and Irrevocable Worldwide Perpetual Royalty-Free License. So that was the contracts that was slid across all the contractors' desks late December 2025, and that's why they're trying to unionise. It's a pretty solid contract, I mean. Yeah, isn't that crazy? So anything likeness-wise for AI after, they could absolutely create that and then have ownership to that. So it's really interesting that that's coming about now, in particular, because there are countries... What do you mean now? This is... 2026, but was it Denmark that said... What, Denmark? Now you own your own likeness. You own your own likeness because they were concerned about like AI and whatnot. So they went and did that. But the person who... There's other countries that you own your DNA as well. There's a lot of different things that you can own. You can also copyright all of this stuff if you wish to. Yes, it takes a while. But we actually do have a friend who went and copyrighted her likeness for this exact reason. That still doesn't cover you in many countries. Because copyright is only typically country that you copyright in. So because you might have a doppelganger. are somewhere else in the world who copyrights their look, and that's the same as yours. Do you have to re-copyright as you get older? Well, I guess you probably have to update it. I would think so. I would think so as well. I actually don't know the answer to that. But Jetson, she seems really funny. Elroy? No. Jane? No, should we run through them all? This is how you end up finding yourself on a website offering AI companionship without ever seeing a penny, was one of her quotes. It shows management attempting to secure exclusive rights to workers' likenesses as well as their intellectual property, including any photographs, videos, or writing created during the course of their employment. The contract also slipped in verbiage that would give them management, power of attorney over its employees. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? And we're back to capitalism, baby. I know this isn't really technically about swinging, but it is about the sex positive sort of Venn diagram. You've seen the Venn diagram. It's terrifying. It is terrifying. What sort of impact do you think this might have or could have on other areas of swinging, dating sites, profiles on dating sites, any of that stuff? You think this kind of concept of content ownership could ever come into play in the swingers lifestyle? I mean, it already has. Please explain. Well, the stuff you post on any of the swingers sites, as an example, is if you read the terms and conditions of those sites, they already own that. Really? Yeah. Take a look. I haven't read them, but I guarantee that it's there. Really? Of course. Interesting. You're saying that they own your content? I'm sure you can specifically ask for the content back, but the intent would be that they have it. Most people would have in their terms and conditions, privacy, policy and usage. I mean, sweetie, this is in. That it would be that when you deactivate your account, like it's removed off of their service. Google, Facebook, all of these guys all have this already. This is not new. Interesting. It's just new in that it's somebody small enough that somebody could unionize against it. There's plenty of businesses out there that already have your likeness. This is not new. So a couple of years ago, there was a Miami Swingers Club and they actually had to pay $892,000 in damages to a few models. because they'd stolen images of models and used them on their website to promote the club. So that was an interesting case. Yeah, don't steal. Don't steal from... Yeah, well, you know, similar thing here. What's stopping these people from, again, if this goes through, using all of their likeness in the future to promote... It's cute that you think that's not happening now. I mean, have you heard of a large language model that generates images, as an example? They're all trained on images from the internet. This is 100% stolen information. All of it. There's nothing new created by an LL. So ChatGPT and the like, they don't create new stuff. They take stuff, bring it together, sort it really well to make it look like it's a response that's human. That's all they do. So all of this stuff, it's plagiarism, it's identities, it's everything. Like this is what AI large language models do. They're called large language models because they're large. They source all of their training and information from the World Wide Web. So we'll see how that goes, led by this Jetson person. It's really interesting. I have a prediction. Not well. You don't think well? Why? Just because they'll find other people that'll be willing to sign it? Desperation. And to be clear, we're not saying that sex workers are desperate. What we're saying is that if you quit your job tomorrow at McDonald's or at Microsoft or at the plumbing place, you're a number. There's going to be somebody who's going to step in and take that job. Potentially, yeah. Of course, I don't mean desperation. I think it's an honourable profession like any other. The hilarity to me is that it's unprotected at the moment in the majority of the world. Well, the terrifying thing is that it's unprotected, yeah. I mean. It's one of the things I do love about this country. Hell yeah. Is that it's. The Dutch, they won't date us, but they sure as shit look after their sex workers and you've got to respect that. Yeah, I totally agree. Yeah. It's not just the Dutch. There's other countries around here as well, but it's the sex workers here are very well looked after. Well, they're treated equally with any other worker. Right. Which is exactly how it should be. Yeah, exactly. Moving on from that, if you're listening on Spotify, because we know for sure as shit, you're not listening on Apple USA right now, you can leave us a comment right on this episode. So please go show us some love because we did have two comments on our last episode. This one is from Tirish said on last episode, I absolutely agree that even in an open playroom, if somebody is going to be in proximity of you close enough to touch inadvertently, they should ask permission. Can we please use this space? That was Tisha's opinion. But Andy did make a comment about the proximity thing, but his last comment. Andy sounds iris. Andy. Exactly. I don't know. I find it interesting that a podcaster, event organizer, and all-round nice person. G'day, Andy. How you doing? How you doing, love? Struggles with confidence to contact some profiles. Because we were talking about how I was like, I'm going to shoot my shot. So that was what I was talking about. You've got to come up with a different line than that. Because shooting your shot means something very different to many people. Including me. Every time you say that, all I imagine you is laying back squirting all over the room. What? Well, that's the lady version of shooting your shot. I don't think, babe, that's what most people visualise. No, I'm thinking about a man version, but I'm now transferring it across to woman version. That's the best I can do. Yeah, even still, okay. I'm going to... Okay, you're going to... Have a crack? Have a crack. Go at it? Anyway, Andy, that's what he said. He finds it interesting that... I struggled with confidence to contact some profiles. Probably blame your parents for that though, right? Andy, I see you, buddy. Thanks for the compliment. And for the sucker. Are you trying to get in my pants? Come on. An Irish Andy over here trying to get in your pants. Did do an Irish exit. That's terrible. Anyway, what are your thoughts about Andy's comment? Yeah, facts. Yeah, I mean, da-da. Yeah, this is not a surprise to me. And again, like I said just a minute ago, you can blame your parents for that. Well, here's the thing. I mean, aside from the fact that Andy Andy clearly wants to get in my pants and thinks I'm just amazing. And it sounds like you do as I imagine by that. Yeah, I watch myself fuck in the mirror all the time. I've talked about that before. I do find it interesting that there is a perception that I, as a podcaster, wouldn't somehow have confidence issues approaching couples that I think are probably, you know, above my level. Standard. So what's with that, Andy? Why are you going to put so much pressure on me, buddy? Wait a solid negative to Andy's positive. Good for you, babe. And this is exactly what your parents are to blame for. the basis of a positive comment. Hey, 23% said yes. My point is that just because we have a podcast doesn't mean somehow that we are infallible to confidence issues. Yeah. I mean, again, I want to say da-da because everyone has confidence issues. It doesn't matter who you are. It doesn't matter how good you look. It doesn't matter how good other people think you look. Everyone looks in the mirror and points at something and says, I don't like that. In my case, though, it doesn't show in the mirror. It's after you get to know me. It's the attitude. If you ever want to hear about the first time, I got the balls to ask for a promotion at work and how long that took me. I'm happy to share with you, buddy. Do you remember the driving force behind that? I've wanted more money. It was me. No, this is pre-you. I'm talking about my first one. Oh, okay. Yeah, this is like pre-Daryl. I thought I was, no, that wasn't, sorry, that was a pay rise. I remember what that was about. Yeah, not the promotion. I got an extra thousand dollars a year, so your joke's on them. Right, travel updates. I am off to Casual Swing Week at Hedonism on Monday. And when I get back, you're going to be in Chamonix and I'm going to come visit you. Question mark, will there be snow? Will Kate fall on her ass snowboarding again? Will Kate fall on her ass because she's drunk? Without any snowboarding. Because she's drunk or she can't snowboard. But hey. You definitely can't snowboard. I feel like I'm doing all right. You're doing better. You're doing better. But we are partnering up with the Spanish guy because he's the only one who's as shit as us. Oh, okay. As long as he's not Canadian or like. No, see, that's the other Canadians. And I say that out of love, not because I think Canadians are shit. I actually adore Canadians. I say it because they're great at anything snow sport related and, quite frankly, intimidating. Yeah, well, that'll happen when for half of your year you walk out the back door and there's snow. This is when I would love to be a surfer because then I'd be like, yeah, come down to Australia and I'll show you a thing or two about the ocean, buddy. But I can't. Well, that's because you didn't go in it because of the sharks and jellyfish and basically piranhas that live off the coast of Australia. Yep. Everything's trying to kill you. for Platypus Facts last episode and we got an email. So what I'm going to say is next episode, please bring your A-game for any Platypi related facts. But other than that, that has been our episode today. Thank you so much for tuning in, everybody, but apparently our Apple US listeners. How's the void going that we have left in your podcast? Yeah, I know. I find it interesting that it was like missing for about a month and a half and it wasn't until actual close friends of ours reached out like, hey, we can't see your shit anymore. And I was like, wait, what? Why are they looking at that shit? Why are they so weird? Thanks, Jay and Kay. We love you guys. And I'll see you in hedonism. So poo to Daryl. I'll buy you a drink at the all-inclusive resort because I'm cheap like that. That has been one of our swingers. And this is why 76% of people don't want you. 76, was it? 77. 77. We'll keep you up to date on our antics with how we're going with dating and let you know what's up. Oh, I can tell you how well it's going so far. Yeah. Great guns. I expect that that three will turn into one. very swiftly as we find out that they don't want to meet with us until 12 months from now. 2028. All right. Lead us out, Daryl. Bye. Well, that's my go-to I'm leaving the podcast sentence. Why don't you do an Irish exit like Andy? No. Drop Mike in.

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