Hotwife Session Live From Hedonism Resort

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Speaker1: You're listening to the Wanderlust Swingers podcast with Aussie hosts Kate and Daryl. If you're curious about exploring your sexuality or the swinging, hot-wifing and non-monogamous lifestyle, you've definitely come to the right podcast. Or maybe you just love travel adventures. Either way, we share our personal, sometimes juicy, sexy stories as well as Swingers Club and event reviews, interviews with other sassy people and of course our global swinging adventures. We try to bring you a look into the Wanderlust Swingers podcast with Aussie hosts Kate and Daryl. the diverse lifestyle that the swinging and non-monogamous community has. We hope you enjoy. Now let's get into the episode. G'day guys and welcome to episode 218, the hot life session that we recorded live at Hedonism Resort. So this was recorded live with Mallory from the Casual Swinger podcast at Hedonism Resort during the Casual Swinger Week takeover. We share how we vet single guys, fantasy the crowd has, we play two truths and a lie, talk about glory holes and so much more. So this episode is all about our hot wifing experience. First up, it is April and it's STI awareness month and week this week. I wrote a research blog with everything you need to know about swinging and STIs and I'm going to put the link in the show notes for you. Second, well, well, it's been a busy month for us here. We have received not one but two legal threats. Yes, you've heard that right. Sometimes there is a dark side to content creation and being part of this community and this month has definitely brought out the crazies. The first legal threat was from a sex worker that we've interviewed previously in 2020 who is currently bullying us into removing her content and has threatened legal action as well as completely deplatforming our podcast that we've been running as you guys know for more than a decade. The second is an event producer in Las Vegas who has threatened legal and income loss on us as a result of a review from their event from last year that One, we weren't at, and two, we didn't publish. So people are weird. What can I say? I thought I would share that with you guys just to kind of tell you what's been going on in our world. I'm heading to England this weekend to host a mansion takeover in Surrey, and I'm so excited to get back into hosting in England and creating something a little different and more in line with the Wanderlust and Libertine brands. So I'm going to tell you all about that. I fly over actually tomorrow, so wish me luck. But the other big news is that in less than two weeks, I'm getting on board the Bliss Cruise for my first ever Swingers Cruise. You guys know we've done a lot in this lifestyle in over 11 years. We've done full island takeovers. We've been to all the resorts. We've done a lot. I've never been on a Swingers Cruise. Best believe I will be reporting back. And guess what? I'm going to be taking my horror, the explorer, slutty friend Mallory along with me as two hot wives being let loose on a Swingers Cruise. What could possibly go wrong? Speaking of sex and masturbation, like that little segue there. I've been exploring with Shivers THC gummies for my sex drive and exploring with new toys and body sensations. Recently, I took a gummy and I decided to have a little play session that turned into an epic 20 minute orgasm involving me grinding my pussy on a vibrator on top of a pillow and some anal play involved. And yes, I was as surprised as you probably are listening to this. If you're keen to try something new in the bedroom, either, with you on your own like me or with your partner, I highly recommend giving Shivers a go. I took one. I waited 30 minutes before having the time of my life and I'm going to be sleeping hella good that night. Bonus tip is they actually taste very nice as well. So if you are interested in trying this, head over to shivers.store. We do have a code. It's code LIBERTINE and it'll get you 10% off your order for THC gummies or any of their intimacy products. Do me favor report back. I want to hear about it. If you guys order, if you have the time of your life, if you have amazing orgasms, let me know. Basically, the intention of this gummy is that it gets all the blood flow going and gets all the sensations happening. And honestly, it was an absolute epic time for me. So I would also like you guys to give that a go. Let me know. Have all the orgasms report back. I am definitely here for all of that. Bit of an audio disclaimer today. This was recorded live at Hedonism Resort in a room with over 100 people. listening to us. So the audio is not as fantastic as it could or should be. We were operating on wireless microphones with external microphones as well. There is crowd participation involved as well. I've done my best to level this episode out and make it listenable. So that, but it's, you know, it's never going to be perfect because it is live. So do me a favor, hang in there. I've done my best to level it. When there is crowd participation, you may need to increase your volume a little bit. and then bring it back down. I've done my best with it. I hope that you guys enjoy it and enjoy this session. But otherwise, I will be back soon. Daryl and I don't see each other for three whole weeks. So again, you best believe going back to those shivers gummies. I will be taking them with me because three weeks without Daryl's dick, I just can't. Okay, I can't with that. Although I will be on the bliss cruise. So I'll be hopefully getting some strange. Anyway, I hope that you guys really enjoyed this episode. I will see you very, very soon. If you're listening on Spotify, don't forget that you can leave a comment on this episode and I will writey-write you back. But otherwise, guys, I hope that you're healthy, happy. It is coming into like swinger season. It's spring. It's summer. Get your clothes off, basically. I'll see you guys soon. Bye. I feel like a rock star. Well, I would like to say thank you very much. When we were doing this session, I think Mickey was like, yeah, we're going to have a full house. And I thought, no, it's morning. You're pulling people away from the pool in the sunshine. Beautiful day outside. You guys proved me wrong. Thank you for that. No pressure. None at all. Thank God I got three hours sleep last night. Before we get started, I was just curious how many people who engage in the hot wife lifestyle already are in this room. If you're comfortable to raise your hand. If you put it, there we go. Got some of the back. Oh, very nice. Very nice. Okay. I see you, girl. That's awesome. Hot waving is definitely a hot topic in this genre. of ENM or CNM or however you refer to it. But there's a lot of misnomers or misconceptions around the structure and ethics in hot wifing. So we thought we'd start off by defining what it is and what it means and the depth and breadth of IBS reach. Yeah, and what you'll see today and hear from us is that even though we are both in the hot wifing space, we actually approach hot wifing very differently. And I think that's what you'll hear through this is that it's not necessarily a one-size-fits-all so however you might choose to engage in this or not or if you're meeting other hot wife couples in the lifestyle again those assumptions may not be correct yeah so unlike porn's education and hot wifing we approach this yeah you you got the visual when i said that though right that's where some of the misnomers come from is porn so our approach my hot wifing experience is more of a solo experience so the way we set that up is we have a vetting process i go on a date and i almost never play in the first that's just my comfort zone. But then when play is engaged, it's usually solo, just the gentleman and myself. I share these experiences with my husband through different media types, whether that's conversation, pictures, video, dirty talk. It's kind of a full circle sexual experience, even though he's not present in the moment. So that's a little bit about our approach. Yeah. And if you've ever looked up Hot One Big, and Mallory wasn't wrong when she said it's a hot topic, Google Trend, by the way, because I'm a nerd and I love analytics. Google trending for the term hot wife has like 300% increase in the last two years. So that just gives you an indication that people are looking for it. And you do get different searches on what it actually means. So historically, you might see a hot wife being more as a cuck humiliation type role play. There tends to be a lot of race fetishization in that as well. And then there's people like Mallory who play separately. The way I approach it is more often and not actually with my partner present. So we tend to do a lot of threesomes, foursomes and fivesomes if he gets his way. But he is engaged in that play session. So unlike Mallory where she might actually take some of that play back through the clips that she just mentioned, generally my partner is actually present in the room but not in a humiliation way that you might see throughout porn for example. So that's how we approach it. Yeah and we talked a little bit about this at breakfast today and there's almost like a praise benefit in that kind of structure versus the humiliation or degradation. It's not a hierarchy play. There's nothing wrong with that. That's just how it's architected. And I thought that was a great way to explain it. Yeah. Is there anybody, I know we had some questions and you had some hands on who's already hotwifing. Are there people in the room who are curious to perhaps go into this dynamic and wanting to try it out? Do we have anyone who's like, yes, I want to give it a go? Oh, that's okay. You don't have to show. So the. Ben. You shocked me. So there you go. Thank you. So a lot of questions through our podcast that we get is the gentleman reaching out, hey, me and my wife listen, or I've listened to the podcast, and I would like to approach my wife about the subject, but I don't know how. How can I bring this up? Yeah. And it's more often than not that the gentleman is seeking out a fantasy. Yeah, although I will say we've had recently a slew of women that are like, I now feel confident enough to go out and help women. with wanting to approach another person and be intimate with somebody else, which I'm sure everybody in this room can understand that just from an ethical, non-monogamous standpoint anyway. Any questions about the dynamics? Yes, sir? Your dynamic with your husband being present, but you still call yourself a hot wife. So like Amanda and I do that. We'll bring couples in or a single guy in. I'm interactive and I'm involved. I just go grab drinks and come out and hang out and watch. We never thought that would be considered Yeah, so I do play solo as well, but it is rarer, right? So the flip side of that is Mallory, it's more rare for her to have a threesome. For me, it's more rare for me to play solo. I still do consider that a hot wife, and the main characteristic and the reason being is the support and cheerleading that I get from my partner. And that is, again, another really big misconception is that, you know, I'm out perhaps engaging in this and he might feel a little bit of compersion, but in the reality of a hot wifing dynamic, more often than not, he is actually cheerleading you to go out and live your best slutty life, however that looks. Yeah, the support and encouragement is a big part of that as well. The discussion around wants, needs, support in that genre, I think plays a big role. And I did Google because I wanted to see what came up when I looked up hot wife has a term. Yeah, our picture. It just says it's a married woman who engages in sexual relationships with other people with full knowledge, consent, and often encouragement of the husband, typically as a form of consensual non-monogamy. So it really doesn't define it as far as the logistics go, present, not present, so on and so forth. Yeah. Do we have another question up the back there? Yep. As a woman, it's sometimes hard to let go to be able to orgasm. Having sex with another man that's not your husband, How do you give yourself permission to be able to orgasm and it's okay? I've been in a situation and I haven't been able to because I feel guilty and I don't want to upset my husband. That's a really, really good question. It makes so much sense. Is that too much? No, you're fine. No. That's a great question. It is a really, really good question because I speak to a lot of women in the lifestyle that have trouble even in group play situations or a full swap with another couple have trouble orgasming and that can come from a variety of places it can come from they're different than how you masturbate or how your partner works by the way fun fact you actually if you do masturbate you tend to reprogram your brain so that it is actually very difficult to come if people do it clockwise versus anti-clockwise that's a little nugget there but yeah they can be guilt associated with it as well yeah so when i first got into this i i have no trouble orgasming as a general practice but and i i do not support that theory because I've been masturbating a long time and I've been multi-orgasming but the first time I played with someone especially solo which was surprising me because in group play I didn't have an issue but solo play I did for the first few times and I think what really helped me was having that conversation with my partner being honest about it and getting more encouragement and emotional and mental support from him to kind of ease that mental chatter because for me orgasms are mostly mental anyways I mean don't get me wrong they're physical too but if I can't get there mentally I'm not going to get there physically so that's where we started yeah oh oh yeah the the reconnection oh yeah she has a story about that let me tell you for the for me the first few times we actually played solo or with somebody else i did harbor a lot of guilt and it was actually really really difficult for me to be present in the moment and give myself commission to enjoy what i was doing i remember i kept looking up at my partner to look him in the face and make sure that everything was okay because at the end of the day that's your person you don't want them to feel bad sad or unhappy about the situation or maybe they thought it was hot during sexy talk and now it's reality and they're like deer in the headlights freaking out unfortunately when i did look over at my husband he was doing this go keep going yeah so that's where i was able to that's where i was able to let go a little bit but it did take me multiple swaps to get there you know and i that's even with the use of sex toys and things like that as well i always a lot of guilt around using other things and it's just taken me time and honestly being with partners that are supportive of that and i don't mean my husband i mean like my play partners that i'm able to feel comfortable enough to share that with them but that's a great question hi do you want to talk about safety around the play how we like approach this so like in our situation kind of similar to yours there's a the first stage of the vetting process is actually on my husband he fields the messages on all of the sites and has some markers if you want to share. What gets them through the gate? And once they're through the gate, this is where I vet them. And then we set a meeting place. And so for physical safety, I always go somewhere public on first meet. I always book the hotel room. I always have an element of control in there so that my physical safety is covered as well as sexual safety. So testing is something I require. And it's always a big bonus when they offer testing without me requesting it. That's such a huge turn-on for me. Before I give the mic to Miki, I'm curious, as we go around the room, who does the administration on your dating profiles? Can I just show a hand? Yeah. More often than not, it's the guy that's actually doing all of the administration. Very similar in our relationship. Often it's Daryl, my partner, who is taking that initial vetting process and then eventually he'll filter them back through to me. But he's the one kind of looking at that first point. And honestly, that's just laziness on my behalf because... Oh, that's just frustration on mine. I love it. And I appreciate that because by the time I get them, I'm like, ooh, pretty. me a photo of somebody that she slept with recently and i also went oh pretty so there we go i was also a fan the way that we approach it very similar except that daryl actually hands them off to to me and we tend to have a series of questions that we ask and this is based on our boundaries right if you want to just go on a profile find someone oh pretty and then fuck them do live your best life brilliant love that the way that we do it as we approach it for perhaps a longer play partner standpoint and the reason is mel is because I want to feel comfortable and evolve that play a little bit so maybe the first time we're doing something just like normal sex I don't know again and then later I might want to include maybe a little bit of BDSM or something in there but I ain't or whatever but I'm doing that only with people that I have a more secure play style with so he'll send them to me I'll ask him very similar questions and that's where I know they're either lying or they're not lying so one of them is straight off the bat is are you single exactly pretty simple question that people get wrong sometimes also true and there's a way to vent these out too yes or at least try to filter them through yeah fun little way to do that is if they can only meet you from say 11 until 2 monday to friday red flag big red flag oh you have to pick up your kids at 2 30. cool yeah and i want to talk a little bit about maybe meeting the needs of each person in that dynamic so there's obviously myself as my partner and the person that i'm playing with and each of those people have different needs that they want met but before we want to pull a fantasy out of the hat Ooh, let's do that. Oh, do we have a volunteer to pull the fantasy out of the hat? Who wants to be our hard person? Here we go. The pretty lady that plays solo. I hope it's yours. Ooh, here we go. Oh, someone's fantasy is MFM. This is a good one. Oh, this is me. I love MFM play. It is something that we do quite frequently. And again, when I first started doing this, I was really nervous because when I stand up the front, and you're all like deadpan looking at me right now. It might seem that I'm very confident, but this scares the shit out of me. I do not normally like being center of attention. And so my first MFM, I obviously am the center of attention. I'm the F in the middle. I've gotten over that now and I'm just like, give me all the pleasure. That's amazing. But yeah, I love MFMs because they do bring a different dynamic. I feel like my partner gets to experience that with me. He's there for safety as well as pleasure. He also happens to kind of tell them what I like without me needing to necessarily be like, to get me off, he will direct them, he will bring them a toy and be like, hey, this one right here, like silver platter orgasm for you. And so we really appreciate that dynamic because it feels like I can be a little bit more comfortable. So whoever shared that, thank you for sharing that. Whoever wrote that, did you want to stand up and maybe say something or you can remain anonymous? It's up to you. I have any questions. I loved your comment there about how your partner contributes to the experience. That's kind of like a cheat code and then another like level of psychological play. My sex lives in my head. But I love that. And it actually turns me on when we have those engagements and he's like, hold her here or do this. It just flips a switch in my brain. Yeah. Was that you that wrote that down? No. I've done it many times. Do we want to move another? But from the NFL, from a guy's standpoint, it is probably a favorite because it's much easier. Now I've got somebody else that can... She's a handful of guys. But it is fun to watch your partner in those moments Alright, I'm going to pull another card here, here we go For her to pick someone up in a bar Ooh, this is a big one And for her to close the deal on her own This is a really fantastic one Because this, for me, would be something Darryl would write Like owning my slot 100% Yeah, it would actually If he was here, I would feel like that's him Now, would this be something He's also in the bar or not in the bar? Oh, no I'm just gonna really quickly tell you this, mainly because this will never happen. Don't tell Daryl. He had this concept of being just fucking somebody in an alley outside of a bar where I just met them with zero barrier play. It's not gonna happen. The reason that I say that this is very similar to how he would do this is because Daryl is my biggest cheerleader. Honestly, when I tell you that, even coming here, he's like, do you do all the things? We're going on a Blizz Cruise together in April, he's like, no, seriously, all the things. do everything you want and I said do we have any restrictions no just just have fun so I'm supposed to take a video of her she's disembarking to see if she's walking fine and so this tells me that that person is cheerleading for their partner truly it's not just a matter of play is sexy and fun but I really want you to live your best life does anybody who wrote this want to oh it's awesome I actually think this is a common fantasy and could be a lot of people's intro into the hot wife experience so it's it's definitely a fantasy we have and we need that that's part of the fulfillment for us as you guys cheerleading us on maybe what we can talk about a good segue is to talk about how do you meet those needs then so you've got joe who wants her to go and live her best life how can she be in the moment with this person meeting her own needs whilst meeting joe's needs how do you guys manage that so we do a couple of things so my husband's very visual very auditory so during play i usually with consent with the partner that I'm with him and I will have a discussion about what's okay what's not okay with play and try not to make it too clinical but you also you know have to go through the things because I don't love butt stuff and a lot of people get carried away so I have to like frame that for them but for my partner I take pictures I've recorded audio we've done video obviously Mrs. Milford but I like to incorporate that so even though he's not present that there's bits and pieces to let him know that one he was thought of and that I want to feed his kink too And I kind of like being that exhibitionist for him. So when I have the ability to do pictures, video, audio, it turns me on as well. So it becomes a symbiotic little, I don't know, kink, I guess. Yeah, I think it is. And for us, when we first started, I guess, evolving in this particular space, Daryl would come to me and say, you know, you're going off on solo play. And we would have a conversation. How can I include you? Right? How can I make sure that you're comfortable? Again, kind of going back to Mel's point. so I can truly let myself go so him and I actually had this conversation what does that look like for you and he initially said video would be great and I said I I want to kind of live in the moment a little bit more and kind of stopping mid play to do that I felt would disrupt me mentally and so that was something that we kind of took off the table a little bit but the last time I went on a solo date we had this conversation again and he was involved by helping me pick the place that we were going to have sex in so he could visualize how the room was set up. He helped me pick my lingerie that I would take to the date. He helped me pick one outfit that I would wear. So that was some of the ways that we included him. So when I did come home and we had sex together again, he was able to, as I'm telling him the storyline, picture it completely in his head. In fact, we went over to the hotel room beforehand and set up sexy lights and got everything ready. So he was really able to kind of be in the moment and feel like he was part of that sexy journey with me. And I'm also really bad at coming home and telling those sexy stories. She's much better than I am at it. So that kind of helped him frame some of those gaps that I just missed in my storytelling to him. Aw. Actually this is like the one thing I wanted to do is when I'm off doing some FaceTime date in. So he's obviously not there, but he can be able to like cheer me on. Yeah. Have you guys done? Not yet. It's on the list. It is definitely on the list. So where we started was I was taking before and after photos because I was a little nervous about interrupting the moment. And it kind of just grew and evolved into, you know, video and other things. You know, again, with consent. I saw a hand over here. Yeah. Yes. Oh. So one way we've been successful with that, and it tends to work really well. Everybody knows guys love the pics and videos. As a husband, I will talk to the other guy. Use her phone so she has all the control. Oh, yeah. That's a big one. And take pics and videos for me. And they love it. And I'll get it for it. I'm looking for it. Yeah. Exactly. A little background, I highly encourage you to only take pictures from your phone unless you really trust this person because from a copyright and legal perspective, the owner is entitled to that media and you can't do anything about it. Yeah, so this isn't something that we've talked about, solo, hot wife and lady, all this great stuff. From a guy's perspective, being a protector, so to speak, not that my wife needs protection, but I can't throw a motherfucker out the window if I'm not in the room. I don't know if I can answer that. Do you want to take that? And I think all those feelings are very normal, by the way. So one of the hardest things you do in any type of solo life is self-soothing. Right? Self-soothing is the act of looking at yourself and saying, I'm okay. So the hard part is that. Go ahead, Rich. So is eating yourself with something healthy? I thought you were suing like going to the gym. Yeah. So yeah, that's a great point. Cause when I'm not playing, he has a plan. He has something to do. So he's occupied and retraining your brain to go, I'm feeling discomfort. None of this is. is a big internal conversation you have the other thing you can do and i know that normally he is in proximity sometimes like if you go away somewhere he might be in the bar downstairs of the hotel so that is a way that they would look after that is more of a proximity based thing you can also put a time restraint on it yep that could be something that you agree to you know hey you're in the bar downstairs she's going to go upstairs and play and you're going to say maybe it's going to be an hour right and then you would make that agreement if she was losing track of because she's multi-orgasmic, that he might be able to just kind of give a little knock on the door and thumbs up, everything's going okay. So those are some of the things that you can try to put into practice when she's going away. Location services on your phone is another big one as well. There are a few things that can make yourself feel a little bit safer, but as Mickey said too, you know, doing something at the same time as well is normally a great way to kind of go about that. Especially if it's your first time and you've never done it, that's when you're like, I've never done anything, so you're freaked out, like, what's going on with my wife? that's when he just filled in some rules like okay honey every time you run to the bathroom or whatever text me just and just getting a ticket okay she's oh she's having fun okay good and after a while that goes away because you're you know but the first time it's just me it's like sleep training yeah yeah i mean i love that any other questions before we move on to some fantasy yes so does he go meet the guy with you or do you go that's a great question so it really depends on the type of So if this is someone I may want to do MFM play with, absolutely. If this is going to be a solo play or solo dating, I will go meet them alone. But if I'm going to meet them, we do the proximity thing. So I'm never too far from home or he comes along and is just close by. So it really depends on the dynamic because we operate. Yes. And also, if this is someone I'm going to keep having a connection with, at some point they do meet because it just seems natural to me for them to know of each other and at least have a little bit of rapport for us it actually does depend on the play style that we've got going on so this is the i don't know if you guys heard that question but it's does my partner meet the potential play partner before we go off and have sex in a recent case i played solo and he didn't meet the person and because that was part of our discussion on the fantasy and what we were i guess role-playing that particular time but other times it's not uncommon for him to meet the guy and then it's not an MFMFM. And that's just maybe that we've met for drinks on a first date, and we might have him there. He might then roll off and do something else, and then I'll just carry on with my date with him. Really, it's whatever your dynamic is and how you want to go about that, and just communicating that with the potential play partner. And it's a good time to mention that if they have a problem with whatever it is that your boundaries are, then kick them to the fucking curb. Also, apparently we've got a fantasy that is Jack's boss's boss. This one is a really good one. So is sex while being held up against the wall and full body attention? I know you have a story about that. I'm sorry, what? Yeah, so I do, I don't know that it's a kink, but I do like the ability to be picked up and kind of manhandled. And I had a play partner recently that is a very fit, young gentleman. I actually found out that he wasn't born in the 1900s after we had sex. And it was a little weird for me, but we're still friends. That's true. but yeah that was a fantasy of mine for quite some time yeah he threw me in the bed and picked me up and pushed me up against the wall and i took it like a good girl it was amazing that actually used to be a fantasy of mine that i had as well and i think one of the reasons why i was kind of that manhandling like taking ownership and like taking what you need obviously with consent and i had this fantasy and i used to masturbate it to it a lot and then i was playing solo one time in dallas and for the first time ever the guy picked me up and carried me over to the bed and it was the fucking sexiest thing and I remember it. And you know what? The fantasy lives up to the reality. Does anybody who wrote that want to share anything or if you want to remain anonymous, you can. No problems at all. Yay. I hope you get that. Actually, I had it more recent than that, too. It might have been here at Hedo. Not this trip. Not this trip. That's coming soon. All right. Do we want to do one more and then we'll move on? All right. What's this one? Ooh, check glory hole within at least five guys. Glory hole's a big one. So has anyone had any glory hole experience here? Well, does anybody know what a chent glory hole is, by the way? Does anybody want to act it out? It's the reverse. So it's where normally in glory holes, the guy walks up to the hole and places his dick through the hole. In a chent glory hole, it's a reverse of that. So the lady is down with coverage either here or here. any other direction. So she's the one with the deprivation not knowing who's the person coming by. Yeah, and I've seen a few iterations like standing, laying back, yeah. And yes, I do have glory hole experience. We did go to a club one time and I disappeared for like 25 minutes and I may or may not have flitted past the glory hole and thought, that's a pretty D. I didn't tell her for two weeks or three weeks and she was like, I knew it. I knew you weren't in the bathroom. Have you ever looked on the other side of a glory hole while it's going down? I can't pull in that off, but yes, I have been behind and yes, it is funny. So in the case that I played in the last glory hole and I saw the ninth cock and I was like, lovely, there was a lady already giving oral to this person who I, by the way, didn't know what they looked like, right? That was part of it for me. And in the mid, she was in the middle of giving, And I came by and I was like, hey, can I get in on this action? And she was like, hell yeah, get in on this action. And so there was a moment where we were passing it backwards and forwards and doing a little double blow job. I left. I didn't stay and hang around. So he doesn't know who I am. I don't know who he is. And I'm sure he probably left that club going, which one? Yeah. We do have a two truce and a lie to you. We were sitting at breakfast this morning and thinking about some of the funny things that we might be able to share. And so we thought we'd play a random, game, two truths and a lie. Everybody know this game? Okay. We wrote down our own two truths and a lie. We just thought we would share that and get you to each time put a hand up and you think it is the lie. So we're going to try and identify the lie. All right. The first one is, I've been employed at a gentleman's club previously. Anyone think that's a lie? Okay. Okay. My second one, my buy count is in the triple digits. Anyone think that's a lie? The hat. Hurt my feelings for And my last one. I have a cum kink. Fair. Fin. All right. The first one. A swap has cost me $500 in medical bills. Anyone think that's a lie? My partner set up a gangbang session involving a limousine. I hope that's true. You think that's a lie? Okay. Makes me feel like I should work harder. I have paged and collared a guy during a swap. And just repeat those. I love it how they knew yours. They're like, cum kinkers. That's that. Okay, so my partner set up a gangbang session involving a limo. A swap cost me $500 in medical bills, and I have caged and collared a guy during a swap. What's that, babe? Ooh, the liver? What's a lie? Why are you guys so on the fence? What workshop is everybody? All right, I'll put you out of your misery. Actually, the caged and collared a guy during a swap was my lie. I have had $500 in medical bills because during a and there was some tearing involved. Thanks for that. Head fucking can go sideways. And the gang back session involving a limousine was actually real also. So we did that and set it up. Raise the mark, dude. Yeah, right. Get your shit together, man. So I have worked at a gentleman's club. I cocktail right before I actually bet Mickey and we started dating. I definitely do have a cum kink. Thank you for noticing. My body count, I actually lost count there for a while. and we did some rough math. It's not far from it, but not quite triple digits yet. Does anybody have any other questions? We can't make eye contact right now. Does anybody have any other immediate questions or something that would answer it from a home wiping perspective? Can be the guy, can be the girl. Anything you want to share? Have you guys ever had a bad experience where you thought she was going to go sideways and you had to dip up? That's a really good one. I have a couple situations that I walked out of. It didn't get, like, dangerous, but it definitely took a turn, and I had to make a judgment call for my own benefit, and it's not something I regret. But I have walked out on dates. And unfortunately, sometimes that gets uncovered after play, you know, because I go back to the well. I prefer to play with someone I'm connected with that's semi-local. And I've had that happen a few times, guys that aren't actually single, aren't actually E&M. And we can put all these gates and just, you can't, there's not enough filters to really know. And sometimes they're really good at lying. Yeah, I've had a phone call in the middle of the night from the wife. Yeah, I met, I met the girlfriend in the grocery store in the neighborhood. Yeah. So we only play with people that are single. That's just a personal preference. And on a rare occasion, I got you, on rare occasions, I have had men say, no, I am cheating. And my response to that is not to get aggressive. That's their relationship. We've got enough care of me. But what I do say is, thank you for letting me know. Plays off the table for us, right? So I try not to get aggressive back. But unfortunately, it has happened. Yeah, I was just gonna say, I'm kind of the opposite, like, kind of a good situation for me in mind. How is it, like, if we over-approach you and say, like... Sorry. Just the other day... You're the busy girl. It's actually us, babe. So we're going... Oh, that's right. We're going... We're going to cruise together in April. Yeah. I had the opportunity, and I had some time on my schedule to go on a lifestyle cruise. What did I say? You scheduled? Oh, for God's sake. I was like, what did I say, Rob? And Dal is unable to come along with me, and I sent Mallory text messages, and I was like, I don't know if this is anything that you might be interested in. She was like, fuck yeah, let's fucking go. So we're going on a cruise together as hotwives, and we did receive a message on the app, and it was something very similar. This is a fantasy that I want to fulfill for my partner. I noticed that you're both hotwives, so it might be an easier play scenario where you perhaps don't have to take an immediate your partner may be wandering the ship while we achieve that, so that was... Yeah, it's not a dynamic I see often out here in the wild, but I do like that kind of engagement. Also married to me. Yeah, that's fair. But it is cool. It is a cool scenario when the wife proposes the situation, because in this space specifically, not all lifestyle relationships support or desire solo play like that, so... Yeah. Yeah, but that's a great question. I think just, it's one of those things, like, everybody in this room has a different dynamic, how it is that they approach non-monogamy, right? And these conversations tend to come up, well, we have this team, we want to play that way, how do we achieve that? And honestly, it's going to sound cliche as fuck, but it's just communication and being open. I think people tend to give off a little bit of body language too. You know, if you see couples that are perhaps at the pool and they're kind of both having different conversations with different people, that might be an indicator that they are a seeking solo play as well. So that'd be kind of some of the ways that I would do it. I know we're getting ready to finish up on wrapping up here. And a question that Rose asked, she's actually left, and this feeds really good into this, is what is the difference between solo play and hot wiping play? And my answer to this, I don't know what yours is going to be, but my answer is that in hot wiping play, more often than not, again, the gentleman is really being a cheerleader. They want you to go out, they want to know details, it's part of a kink or a praise kink or a fetish, whatever it is, however they play the dynamic. Oftentimes in purely solo play, the person might be go up and have fun and i don't really necessarily need to know the details right they're not as involved in selecting being part of that and being a cheerleader boy what do you impose yeah very similar so for me hot wifing incorporates my husband right it supports his desires my desires there's interactions and engagement and encouragement there versus solo play is a little more insular this is solely about me and not that he doesn't have line of sights to it It's more independent than the hot wifing experience. And we do have a mix of both, yeah? Yep, alright. Alright, great, thanks guys. Yes, first of all, thank you to the ladies of the hot wifing series. It's pretty cool, but I want you guys to remember something. The space between fantasy and actualization is where fear lives. That day they rose up and shot, it's like, you can't do that, you can never do that, you can never do that, that's not me.