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C is away, living in hotel rooms working around the world, we connect up through Skype to chat to you about our latest adventures. We are excited to share some very new, very sexy insight into C’s mind – C discovers she has a sexual fantasy and shares with D for the first time over… Read more
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This is C. And this is D. And this is Swinging Down Under. This is a remote version, actually, of Swinging Down Under. And yet again, I'm the cause of the lack of podcasting. So thanks, everyone, for letting us know that you've been missing us. And apologies yet again that I'm currently travelling for work. So we're giving this a shot over Skype and D's back in Australia. Hello, D. Hello there. You're very much missed. I bet I am. It's been, what, four weeks since we've had any personal contact? Four weeks, absolutely. And can I say the Skype sex times are just not the same.
And I'm interested in whether Skype's recording this stuff, you know, be like some sort of perverse Skype sex reel that they have at their office that they run during their Christmas parties or something. Isn't that also just like Skype probably own you porn and it's just people Skyping together and then they just put it up on Newporn. That's probably how it works. But look, to introduce what we're going to talk about today, it's a pretty interesting one, especially for Dee.
So for those of you who may have listened back in the early stages of Dee and I recording, you may remember that how we got into the lifestyle was actually through talking about fantasies. Dee posed a question to me. I didn't have an answer. And so now we've been in the lifestyle for... for over a year and the other day from another country I messaged Dee and I said I think I have a fantasy. Your first fantasy? Like ever? Ever. And Dee doesn't know this.
We're going to talk about this today and this is his first time actually hearing this so we thought it would be quite funny to actually podcast about it as well. She's been holding out on me. I've been desperately wanting to know what it is and she's been making life as difficult as possible for me. Different time zones, you know. It's All's fair in love and war. Love and war, yes, but not sex. That's different. We're also going to talk about an email that we received as well.
Curious Luke from Melbourne asked us a question about anal sex in the lifestyle, so we're going to talk about that a little bit later. And let me just convert that city to English. It's Melbournian for anyone else out there on the planet. Australia's just being lazy with words. In general, we just turn that into Melbourne. I'm not lazy with words. I'm lazy with pronouncing the words. We've got plenty of words. Yeah. We just never pronounce them properly. Yeah, absolutely. We lengthen anything that's too short and shorten anything that's too long. That's true.
University becomes uni and my friend Brad will become, you know, bratty. That's a really bad example. That was a terrible example. Have you got anything better?
Well, you could do Brad as like, brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr We'd call him Radley.
And we're also just going to quickly kind of recap on what's coming up over the next couple of months for us. So, I don't know. Dee, any other input into that? I can't see you, so I can't give you the eyebrow signal. Additionally, we will be eating nuts. So, if you hear any crunching in the background, that's either see or me. See or me? Look at that. It's like some sort of weird poetry. eating nuts, minor macadamias. Minor selection of mixed nuts, which I actually paid. I'm going to equate this actually to US dollars for our friends out there in the States. I got this at an airport.
It is, what is it? Like 200 grams of nuts. And I paid 15 USD for this packet. Whoa. Oh yeah. So that equates. It's like $8. I don't know how much that is, but anyway. So yeah. So fantasy. So the other morning. No, no, you go. Yeah, this is going to be exciting. Okay. So I woke up, realized I had a fantasy. Now, how this has come about is what's really intriguing to me. And first, I actually want to talk about what a sexual fantasy is in terms of the actual definition of a sexual fantasy. Because I once actually read a script. I don't even know where that was, actually. It wasn't a doco.
I can't remember. Oh, there's another word that we should. Documentary. There we go. On sexual fantasies. And now the interesting thing about sexual fantasies, particularly in the lifestyle, is that generally speaking we get to kind of live them out. I mean, that's a fair statement, right? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, shit, I don't know too many other people out there that can say, yeah, you know, I was out on the weekend and I had three women sucking my penis at the same time. That definitely falls into fantasy realm. That's right.
So it's interesting to have this kind of like a – This idea of a fantasy, but then how it kind of plays out in the swinging lifestyle. But in general, what they were talking about in this article was that a fantasy is actually impossible to play out. And the reason behind that is in our heads, we control absolutely the characters, their every move, their every thought, their every action, reaction, all of that stuff. I remember us discussing this when we were – remember we were first looking to get into the lifestyle.
We actually looked at a – there was a couple here in Sydney that you could – as like a sexual fantasy couple. And we then decided that probably wasn't the best of ideas because we couldn't, you know, even if we had fantasies, we couldn't direct them the way that we believe they should have directed or they should have reacted to the things that we were doing. Yeah, that's right, how it plays out in your head. And so then your sexual fantasy, it's not ruined, but certainly it doesn't play out like it does in your mind and therefore are you actually ever really playing out that sexual fantasy?
I mean, it's a difficult one to call. So that's my little random tidbit of information. Fantasies in your head don't really translate into real life because you cannot control every person in the room. You probably could if you paid enough money or everyone was into it, but then it would be you, sir, put your hand on her knee like a Twister game, right? Yeah, just way too – yeah, like Twister. Like fantasy Twister. Swister. Be swinging Twister. Swinging Twister, yeah. I've already copyrighted that, people, so – Well, trademark. So my fantasy the other morning. So I woke up, had this fantasy.
Now I'm going to kind of – how much detail do you want, DM? What are we doing here? How do you want to hear this? Well, we want every detail. I'm sure I speak for everyone out there in podcast land as well. We want all details from – and let's get gory with these details. All right. So Budden and I asked me some questions because obviously I'm not going to really know what you're going to want to hear. So as I'm walking through this, I guess just – randomly say what was happening here or ask me whatever. Okay. Absolutely. That's the easiest way to go.
So the fantasy, I'll set the scene actually. First of all, it takes place in an office. Yes, I know. What a cliche. A successful woman wants to be taking control of in an office. For everybody out there in podcast land, don't be dicks about this. Okay. Yes, it's a cliche, but it's my fantasy. God damn it. So it's in an office. Now the, gentleman that's in the room is a very successful, very attractive, I'm going to call him late 30s, early 40s, attractive, successful, sexy man in a suit. As we know, suits are pretty much the equivalent of lingerie but on a man.
They kind of just get the juices flowing. I, on the other hand, I'm in, of course, a white blouse that's kind of buttoned down, allowing my cleavage to show. I'm imagining a high-waisted skirt here as well. High-waisted skirt. Shut up. Just because you can pick it and it's cliche, you don't get to butt in like that. Sorry, I like, but I like the image so far. So yes, it's a high-waisted skirt. Now, the high-waisted skirt actually has quite a large slit up the side of one of the legs.
And the reason that slit exists is because I'm also wearing, in my fantasy, a set of lacy high stockings, like thigh-high stockings. So through the slit, you can see the lace. The top of the lace? The top of the lace. At the very high thigh level, right? Nice. Kind of getting that? Yeah, totally getting it. Heels, of course, a necessity. Can't be walking around in flats in this kind of an outfit. What sort of heels are we talking? Stilettos and, in fact, some Louis Vuittons, I'm going to say. Oh, LVs. Stop it. Keeping it classy. Yeah.
Now, I guess the premise for this fantasy is, is somebody else kind of wanting to take control? And as I kind of go back, I think about the reasons behind this and it's all about, you know, having someone who's, I guess, this successful manly individual kind of taking control. And so the basic way that it plays out is that I'm in the room. I'm also trying to, at this point in time, kind of manipulate manipulate him, wanting him to want me, you know, so I'm dropping papers, I'm bending over, I'm showing some skin, these sorts of things.
It kind of, in my head over the last few days I've been thinking about this, it plays out differently every time as to how I'm trying to coerce him into wanting to fuck me, basically. Now, what generally happens, he's obviously then taken by me, wants to, he's enticed by me, and generally it then involves kind of him pushing me onto the table, kind of legs apart, and then rolling down, starting to roll down my stockings and expose my panties. Now, what panties am I wearing, since you would have an idea of this, Steve? Because I'm curious. The lacy white wicked weasels, I would think. Damn it.
I thought you were going to go with like a G-string or like a black something. Lacy white cheeky wicked weasels. Yep. Yep. And, you know, and the thing about this is, again, I've been thinking about this, it's going with the good girl, bad girl imagery, right? Because you've got like the bra, you've got the boobs kind of showing, but at the same time, you know, you're pretending to be this kind of, you know, little innocent person, I guess as well, which comes down with the power play that's happening. So, yeah, so he's doing that. He's pulling down, pulling down my panties.
He starts going down on me. Of course, I'm curling back. My back's in an arch. It's fantastic. I think I have a new fantasy. What's that? This. No, this is mine. Back off, pal. Sorry. I mean, this is mine and millions of other people in the world, but you can't have it. Okay, done. I'm actually curious. I might Google later the number of porn films that would contain this kind of this very scenario. That's an interesting question. Anyway, keep going. I will. Because this is totally working for me and I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's totally working for everybody else as well.
So he's going down on me. I'm kind of back arched over his desk, kind of hands, and it's obviously a very nice, like mahogany kind of timber over the top desk. And, you know, I've got my hands on either end of the desk, kind of this back arch. My heels are on the desk as well, kind of my legs are open, my knees are up. He's going down on me. Then, as we're kind of getting into this and he's then, kind of working his way back up, you know, kissing my nipples, touching my breasts.
He then flips me over and then, yeah, and then actually start having sex with him standing behind me against the table. Okay. And he's obviously at this point, you know, kissing on my neck and, you know, having a fantastic time. Awesome. Oh, and at this point he's obviously pulled my skirt upwards as well. Well, because you can't just like unzip it and take it down. It's really awkward. There's the paws involved. Who does what? So he's just pulled it up.
So he's just pulled it up and gotten the blouse further unbuttoned and I'm guessing that the bra was clasped at the front, which allowed him to get in there without taking the shirt off. No, the bra kind of, the bra was kind of stayed in play. Oh, okay. Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. So that's my fantasy. Okay, so, I mean, you've only gotten up to the point where you started fucking. What's the play from there? What's the, you know, what's the sex? There is no play from there. It's all the lead up. It's not about the sex. Well, we do have sex.
There's no like, oh, and now we've orgasms and now we've finished and let's awkwardly put our clothes back on and leave the room. There's none of that because that doesn't happen in crazy. See, I was just wondering, you didn't even stipulate it was good sex. You just went like, it's sex. Okay. Of course it's good sex. It's my fantasy. Okay. Well, you didn't – you've got to add those details. Okay. It's the best sex that I've ever had. Oh, wow. That good? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Gotcha. That does sound like a fantastic fantasy. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
I feel like there's a variation of this too, though, where – I don't want to use the term Fifty Shades of Grey because I don't know why, actually. You just did. Yeah. No – No. I understand. But the bad boy imagery as well, I mean, there's a kind of subset to this fantasy, which would be that he actually has cuffs on either side of his desk as well. Ooh. Yep. You know? So your fantasy really sort of sounds like almost being dominated somewhat. Being desired. That's the key there. Being desired. Okay. Okay. So desired versus dominated. Yeah, I think it's a bit of both, to be honest.
But I think the idea of it is the desire factor. Having someone who's, you know, this amazing, sexy, successful man, you know, just kind of not falling prey to me, that's kind of really, that's a terrible descriptor, but, because I'm not a succubus, but kind of, you know, wanting me, you know, feeling that desire. Yeah, okay. Okay, well, that's a... Pretty impressive fantasy you've got there for your first one. Yeah, thank you. I mean, shit. Most of us, my first fantasy was actually just having sex. And obviously that was before I actually had had sex. Had had sex.
So you were putting it in her eye instead in your fantasy and then you realised that's not where it went? Well, no. Sometimes I still aim for the eyes. So that's mine. Any questions? No. No, I don't think so. I mean, I think you've covered that out quite nicely. That is a spectacular fantasy. The only thing I was surprised at, and specifically surprised, I suppose, was that the table was wood. That's your... Okay. I figured for you, the girl you are, it probably would have been glass or something like that, you know. Oh, heavens no, that's just tacky. Come on. Oh, really?
So we're talking old mahogany... you know, lawyer style. Yeah, I don't know. With the ornate legs and we're now discussing furniture on a sex positive podcast, just FYI. All right, that's me. That's me. Let's talk about one of your fantasies. Well, I mean, gloriously as part of this lifestyle change for us, I've lived a whole lot of my fantasies and have probably gotten to the point where My fantasies intertwine more with you, and when I say with you, I mean us as a couple than they do as me as a single.
Now, because one of my fantasies, obviously, that I discovered fairly early on was that I wanted to see another man with you, which was a real surprise to me given that every man coming into this sort of thing, well, not every, but a lot of men coming into this thing have the idea that they're interested in seeing two girls together. Two girls together or two girls with them? Well, I think a bit of both. I think a little of column A followed by a little column B. Which, by the way, I'm just throwing it out there.
But how many men do you know that it can actually handle multiple women at the one time properly? Even in the lifestyle? Yeah. Yeah, it's... I get that it's a fantasy, but that is a... That's a tough game to play. Oh, absolutely. It's a big-ass, brother. Especially if it's first time in. I mean, Jesus. No one's performing then. Come on. No, it can be tough just satisfying one woman. Generally, you're on your B-, maybe a C-plus game on a first interaction. Yeah, absolutely, which is why we like more than one interaction. So sorry, I interrupted. No, I fully agree. So that's the idea.
going in now I've lived a lot of my fantasies now which is fantastic and when she asked me to come up with a fantasy to match hers I was kind of stuck to be honest I have one that she's aware of that I'm not sure the rest of the podcast land is but other than that I think I've lived a lot of them I've been out and done the things that I wanted to do in terms of Seeing you with another man Seeing Seeing you with another woman as well As I said before Three women sucking my penis That was not a fantasy Until I realised that it happened Then it was The only other thing I really have At this point And I'm sure that will change moving forward Is Well there's two There's one that I just mentioned That C's already aware of Which is actually seeing her double penetrated.
Now, that may or may not be on the cards moving down the track. That's really up to C because that's more her than me, of course, although I do anticipate being one of them. And that'll be a segue into our further conversation a little later. But the other one for me, and it's only come up in the last week, I suppose, maybe week and a half, is that with C being away for the period that she has been I'm now curious as to whether I want to see her have sex with another man remotely. So actually me watching via video is weird and perverse as that sounds.
And then, you know, actually being able to watch live from a distance exactly what I watched up close. Now, let me just run through how this plays out. It starts with... actually going out and picking up from a bar. So, you know, using some moves and which... I'm assuming this is a hotel bar. I'm going to say a hotel bar, yeah. Your hotel bar would be probably the best way to put it. Your hotel bar, you're keeping me in the loop with texts and stuff on the way through and then actually using some of the flirting you've been practising, which, you know, you are getting much better at.
And thank you to all the people out there who've offered to allow you to flirt practice with them. And sorry for all those people that I attempted to flirt with and it came out completely awkward. Which has happened, yes. Multiple times. Hashtag sorry. Yeah.
So, yeah, I'm interested in, you know, that flirting, hearing what's going on, hearing when he touches your thigh, when he brushes your arm, you know, the standard things that men will try to do to get that intimate touch before moving any further or hoping to get things to progress and then you actually inviting him up to your room probably in a little bit of a I'm going to use the term slutty but not that's derogatory at all just in a you know shy yet overt you know what's going to happen up there sort of scenario and he knows about you at this point?
Oh yeah absolutely or is this a camera is going to be in the room and he doesn't really know what's going on. No. So he knows that you have a partner and he knows that what's going to happen. He knows what's going on. You know, that's part of the introduction and sort of part of the tease, I suppose, for him. And then he nods or says yes and you walk him off to the elevator by grabbing his hand and just literally pulling him along. out of the chair over to the elevator and as the doors close, you literally pounce him. So, you know, massive, massive kiss, grabbing at his ass.
So I'm basically, I'm taking him. Yeah. Like I'm the, okay. Yeah. Feeling, you know, grabbing his cock. Then headed upstairs in the elevator and as the door opens, you know, you sort of, you brush yourself down and pull your hair back straight and walk out of there all...
Normally I suppose And then Into the bedroom and quite literally As the bedroom door closes behind you You again Push him up against a wall and Take him, drag him into the bedroom Tear his clothes off He does the same to yours and I mean Probably quite literally In some of the articles That you're wearing so perhaps the Underwear and bras Quite literally torn from you as he starts kissing at you you've still got your still got your heels on of course and that again welcome to another cliche and yeah so he starts going down on you on the bed with you with your heels on up on the bed then the natural progression from there is he starts he works his way up to you and he's kissing on you and stuff and then Again, you flip him over.
I flip him over? You flip him over. And then at some point, and I'm not sure what point, your heels have come off, which allows you to straddle him. And I mean actually do the straddle rather than the cowgirl. So that really, as you push him into you, the only thing touching between you and him is your genitals. Okay. Penis in vagina. You then ride him to your orgasm without really caring about his. And then kick him out of the room. And then as you finish, he then is not far away from finishing. You then roll him over and he – actually, no, sorry. He then takes you from behind.
and pulls out and comes on your back. And that's about it. I mean, again, without the awkward dressing and blah, that's it for the evening. When he asks you for your number, you give him a fake number and that's it. Okay. And that's the last time you see him. Right. Fair enough. Yeah. Now, you mentioned before another, I guess, fantasy that you had, which is double penetration. Do you want to just run through for the people listening what that is to you?
Because the reason I'm asking is, is there a difference in terms of the naming of double penetration when it is two male partners in, how do you say this without sounding vulgar? In the vagina. Yes. Versus kind of, actually we've seen footage recently, which I'm going to blame the law for this where there was Yeah. Three penises and there was, there was, that was not a pretty sight. Um, versus obviously somebody, I would assume your partner would probably be more the person who would be having anal sex with you and the other gentlemen's in the vagina. Yeah.
Is there, is there a naming convention difference between the two of those? I believe there is actually, I've done a wee bit of research on this leading up to the podcast. I'll bet, I'll bet you have. So, um, you've got, um, DVP, which is double vagina penetration. Double vagina penetration, right, yeah. DAP. Oh, oh. Yeah. Yeah, we get it. I'm sure we can all fill in the blanks there. No need to buy a vowel. And then you've just got your regular DP, which is anal and vaginal. Hmm. Yeah.
So my – actually, we got very close to this – to my perfect scenario, I suppose, or my fantasy scenario, which is you on top of the guy that you enjoy having inside you and then me slipping around behind you and just quietly slipping into your own. Now, but the thing about this is it takes some navigation, right? I mean, it's not exactly like it's, you know, there's a lot of checking involved that I would imagine would occur, which to me, logistics, of the whole scenario just seem like it's...
Well, I suppose, I mean, the guys need to be known to each other reasonably well because no matter how you do this, there's going to be some, there's definitely going to be some touching, isn't there? Yeah, I meant for, I meant comfortable, being comfortable as a woman, actually. I wasn't talking, yeah. Yeah, no, no, I wasn't finished with that. I was still leading on to that bit. But yes, to be comfortable as a woman, you need to find, obviously, a guy that you're comfortable with in terms of, size front hand rear. Okay. Right. I would think. Well, there we are. And I guess that's...
And where do you stand on this these days, Sue? Well, as I was about to say, this is a segue into our next conversation. So we received an email from Luke in Melbourne asking us about anal sex in the lifestyle. Now, he mentioned, rightly so, It's a bit of a taboo. There's not a lot of information out there about it. People generally don't tend to talk about it on podcasts and it's pretty rare to be seeing it in the lifestyle, I think, just in general, day to day. I mean, anything to add to that? No, look, well, I don't think we've actually seen that play out in the lifestyle yet.
Although, you know, we're still relative newbies.
I know there's, you know, some of the other podcasts we listen to, we've certainly heard that this goes on but we've not ever seen it that's right yeah so he wanted to know I guess about he wanted to talk about it just generally have a conversation about it so I mean Dee if you want to lead I will pipe in when I think I've got something to say yeah so I mean I don't think anal in the lifestyle is any different to any other group I won't say group but you know any other part of life It just comes down to the person The female and the male whether they're into it And I'm you know again without seeing It in the lifestyle I can say that there's Certainly a group of people that we know Who are definitely Involved in anal And DP as well That you know That happens whether it be at a house party Or at clubs with those guys So it's I think it's just again it comes down to the comfort of the people that are involved in it and the comfort of the gentleman that they're with and you know the fact that the the guy going in going in anally isn't you know it doesn't have a girth of 12 inches right so this is where i'm going to pipe in yes you said that you thought it was really i mean as long as everyone's into it you didn't really see that it was any kind of there was any differential in the lifestyle but you also then mentioned comfort yes and so this is where i think it's a key factor I don't think there's a lot of anal in the lifestyle and also actually I just want to point out that yes we have friends who like it we've also got friends who are absolutely 100% against it yes even in their own relationships so there's a little bit of both but I think even though there's that kind of that people that do that people that don't but in the lifestyle I think it's extrapolated because of the fact that you need to feel comfortable but also you have a lot of what did I say extrapolated sorry That's all right.
You were there. You got the X bit. A little bit tired coming in on the red eye. I'm not going to lie. Yes. But on top of that, I think you've also got that comfort and the trust factor in the lifestyle. Yeah. And this is why I don't think we see a lot of it maybe in clubs because people are going to clubs, yes, they're having sex with their partner, but they're also exploring sex with other people. And if that is the first or second time that you've met that person, you don't generally tend to you know, have maybe that level of trust.
And it's a very vulnerable, for me, I think it's a very vulnerable position, very vulnerable as a woman to be in. So I think that's the thing. Yeah, somebody can do, I mean, if somebody does this wrong, they can do really, you know, serious damage. Yeah, that's right. So I think that depending on relationships and how they, you know, progress, maybe, maybe it might happen. But I mean, for us, even if we were going to consider double performance, penetration, there is no doubt in my mind that the other person would be vaginal. Yeah. That doesn't surprise me at all.
I think it's that, it is again that trusting of knowing whether or what that person's going to do and knowing that it's going to be okay. I'll ask you a question though just to step back a little bit. Knowing your friends outside of the lifestyle, what percentage would you say are would be involved in anal sex? 10%? Reasonably regularly. Less than 10%. Yeah. Okay. And what would you say in the lifestyle? Again, I'd probably say less, only because in the lifestyle, you've also got the people that have the encounters that they like only seeing the person maybe once or twice. Yep.
And to get to this point, I feel like it needs to be maybe a prolonged relationship. You know, it's people that you've seen multiple occasions.
You know, you kind of got that trust building up so if you're going to say it's 10% in normal normality it's going to have to be lower in the lifestyle purely because of the fact that some people do only then see people once you know and so out of that percentage then of people in the lifestyle that then see long-term partners and then you kind of go into that pathway so I think I mean that's just me I think it's less there's probably someone out there in Google land who's gonna you know make us turn us on the right path but um I don't know what do you think yeah look I think um I think your numbers are probably a little high for women in the normal world, mainly because...
You reckon less than 10%? Yeah, absolutely. I would say that. I would say that it's typically the ladies who are more interested in sex that would contemplate exploring their sexual boundaries, even if they are in a monogamous relationship. And those people are, again, probably the ones that are more drawn to the lifestyle, which, hence, would then give the chance of increasing that potential in the lifestyle, you know, because you're looking at people who are now already exploring their sexual boundaries. Now, I'll preface that question as well that I asked before.
It's not a preface now, of course, but with the fact that I was talking in the fact that the penetration was coming from your partner whilst you were possibly with somebody else, the anal penetration. Yeah. So that's the, I suppose, the thing that makes it a little bit more comfortable in that you know that person is not going to do you any disservice by doing something that you aren't expecting. Okay, I see where you go on that. Yeah. Fair enough.
Yeah, but I think, you know, I don't think that general, the other thing, to take into account with anal is when you're in a play situation, especially if you're in a club or even in a house, there's, you know, to have an absolute clean experience, there's a lot of thought that needs to go into that beforehand. No, that's right. Yeah, to make sure that there's an absolute guarantee of no issues. Wouldn't you agree? Absolutely. I think that...
Yeah, if you were actually going to probably do that in a club situation or even just with partners that you would probably, yeah, you'd want to be ready for it. Same way that I go out and I make sure that I'm freshly tanned and manicured and all the rest of it. Yeah, absolutely. Now, I'm just reading an article. This is from 2010.
This is a little bit old, but it said here that in 1992, a study that was found that 16% of women aged 18 to 24 had tried anal sex but in 2010 when this was reported they're suggesting that the number is now more likely at 40% Wow 40% admitted to having and I'm going to say tried anal sex tried is a very broad word that's exactly right so I think that there's probably two numbers here isn't it it's just it the difference between, I guess, people who had, I mean, this is articles talking about people who tried it, but I've been more interested in the fact that it was an ongoing interest. Yes.
Yes. So, yeah, look, I mean, we indulge in anal sex. I don't think you have a problem with me saying that out loud, do you see? Too bad if you do now. Well, I think all of our listeners know full well that Dee doesn't really edit podcasts that well. No. even if I did have a problem, it's now out there and you're probably not going to go back and edit it out. Yeah, you're probably right. You're probably right. So yeah, I mean, well, I'll speak for me. I enjoy that part of our sex life and certainly the idea of the DP is probably born from that part of our sex life as well.
For me, it's the ability to have, I suppose, the two fantasies joined into one because I do like having anal sex with you, but it Additionally, there's, you know, one of my first fantasies was you with another man. So I'm now indulging effectively two fantasies all in one hit, which is really the reason behind it, I think. But again, this is not, this is my fan, my fantasies now seem to involve us. You know, they're us fantasies rather than mine. So there's no way that any of this stuff would go ahead. It took me seven and a half years, but I Finally, I'm a plan sinker. You've got me.
I'm here. I'm stuck. That's funny. Now, just before we talk about, I guess, upcoming things, I'm going to let you actually talk about this. I'm just going to give you the hot tip about it, though. At the end of Luke's email, Luke from Melbourne, the last recommendation from Luke, can you tell everyone out there what it was and kind of give us your thoughts on it? Yeah, absolutely.
So, Luke, I applaud your – Honesty, Luke actually said what he would like is for us to possibly record a session, one of our swinging sessions, not video, but just audio, and then use a little tidbit of that at the end of the session, and additionally, perhaps some music to sort of sign off. I think people are probably getting bored with our intro and outro now, given that we say the same thing over and over again. But look, you know, we're hoping that the middle bit actually lifts it enough that you'll put up with the beginning and the end. But yeah, Luke dropped that in.
I, you know, he said that he believes that it would increase our listener base and I totally agree with him. I honestly think it would, no doubt whatsoever. It comes down to whether, of course, we want to do that or not and I'm not sold on it at this point. Andy, what about your thoughts? Where do you sit on that, Steve? Okay, so... Porn films. Let's talk about porn films. Porn films, they can go to an hour. Let's talk about porn films. They can be an hour long. Yes. Now, I want to know, again, it's a percentage if you're in any, but it's pulling these out of our head.
What percentage of an entire hour of porn is actually watched and consumed? Look, I think all of it, but just at different times. You think there's some fast-forwarding happening? Well, no. Is this just a guy watching or a couple watching? Both. Give me both figures. Give me single guy. Single guy you're looking at. Probably the first scene he's done. Right. Couple? Probably two scenes before they ignore the rest because they then become a little into each other rather than into the porn. Okay. Now tell me something. Yes.
If we had audio of us having sex together or sex with multiple other people... What percentage of our actual podcast do you think people would listen to? Oh, you mean if it was the beginning or the end? I don't think he was saying it was a huge portion, just like a tidbit. Yeah, the output. That's what I'm saying. Would you believe or would you not that people would just fast forward to the end to listen to the sex audio? I'd like to think that we're higher up the chain than that, to be honest. Higher up the ladder. than just people fast-forwarding to the sex bit at the end. You are so cute.
Hang on. People might do that, but then they might come back to listen. The other thing is with your fantasy you just described is all about the lead-up to the sex, right? So for our lady listeners out there, perhaps... Oh, I see where you're going with this. Perhaps they might find our interactions and chatter... Dulcer tones. Well, my mid- mid to dulcet tones, perhaps they might find that appealing. And look, we've had a lot of compliments on our accent, even though it's pretty standard here in Australia, to be honest. Standard, yeah, we're born with it.
But you see where I'm going, perhaps for the lady listeners, it might be a thing, you know. I see, I like your thought process. I like the fact that you've just delved in and kind of rumored that. Yep, that's what I'm running with. That's what you... That's... Yeah. Okay. So, Luke, thanks for the suggestion. It's still being tabled for discussion. It's pending. It's pending, Luke. We'll let you know how it goes. We might do one of those secret podcasts. You know where there's that 10 minutes of silence?
The secret podcast like you filming me singing unknowingly and then putting it up on the internet. I don't know what you're talking about. It had nothing to do with that. I cannot confirm nor deny that I was involved. Yes, exactly. Look, we've been re-ambling now. Well, we've had an offer from Miley Cyrus, though, and, yeah, for you to sing along with her. No, we haven't. What are you talking about? Yeah, see, you've been away for four weeks now and have not been checking out our Twitter account. No, we haven't. That was Jay from Average Swingers. I know. On Twitter being funny. Yeah, yeah.
Again, Miley Cyrus' lawyers, if you're out there listening to this, at no point are we suggesting – that we were contacted by the real Miley Cyrus, please don't sue us. Well, you know, but we'd be open to that. We'd be open, but we're not inferring that she's listening. Please stop. Don't sue us. Okay. I'm inferring we should get you three together and see what happens. Right. That's what I'm inferring. Look, let's wrap it up.
So what I meant by the secret, You know how back in the 80s they used to have a silence between the end of the last song generally on the B side and then they had another song? Sweetie, they did that with CDs in the 90s as well and probably into the 2000s. I don't know about the 80s. Okay, fine. So that's because you weren't born in the 80s. I was, midway through. Yeah, but you weren't listening in the 80s. So that's what I'm thinking about. If we're going to do it, we'll keep it to ourselves and it'll just pop up. Just dull silence for 10 minutes. 10 minutes and then bam, sex, odyssey.
What do you think? Yeah, I think it's tabling it. It's still tabled, yeah. Look, there's a lot of things on the table though. It may get lost, may get shuffled, it may fall off the table. All right, so upcoming episodes. So it's getting closer. I mean, we're April now. Absolutely. It's almost July. We're super-duper excited. Heading over to Nordian, New Orleans. It's obviously in New Orleans. So we're making the big trek over there. Now, do any of our friends going, really anyone that sees us there, be nice and buy us a drink because it's 24 hours of travel, okay? We need a drink.
We are not going to be in a good way. I'll take an espresso martini. Dee's probably going to have a drink. the scotch and the rocks. But if you see us and we're kind of dragging, dragging our feet along. Dragging our arses. Please feel free to do that. So that's Naughty New Orleans. And then after. Hang on. So we're headed to, we need to say who we're headed with because we've got some really cool people. I'm getting there. Okay. Well, I can't see your eyebrow raises when you're on the other side of the planet.
Look, it's these sorts of things that really make me just wonder if, you know, We're going to carry on here. So where are we going after? After NIN, we are headed to Desire Resort. We are. And that's going to be awesome as well because that's our first time being at a clothing optional resort and our first time being at a lifestyle resort as well. Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking forward to this actually. And I've had – I've had some people give me some mixed reviews.
I've had some people tell me that, you know, that maybe only a smaller percentage of the people that go there are actually in the lifestyle. And then also there's a smaller percentage that are younger, I mean, around my age in the lifestyle. I'm actually, my biggest concern, you know, is outside of that.
My biggest concern is that, you know, I've always preferred the dull glow of the computer screen over the harsh reality that is the sun and because of that I've got the entire opposite of the Australian complexion which means I'm pearly white so and sunbeds are illegal in Australia so that is not an option additionally you know spray tan provides no sort of support in terms of stopping you from burning so I'm just concerned that I'm going to look like a zinc covered white thumb. Maybe we can incorporate that into one of the outfit days.
Like that can be, you know, maybe you can go as Iron Man because the zinc that you're wearing is red. I could just be like a cricketer with zinc on everywhere except my nose. I thought you were about to say like except your balls or something and I was going to say no, I'm pretty sure that they're going to get burnt, right? Yeah, no, that's my big concern is that I'm going to do that much damage on the first day. I'm not going to have sex with anybody. Genitalia burn is probably not great. No, no. All right, so who are we heading there with?
We are heading there with our good friends from our secret spot. You can catch them on Twitter. They're at oursecretspot. And, of course, we're actually heading there with the Aussie Swingers, which you can catch them on Twitter, at the Aussie Swing. Check out their profiles. That's who we're going with. We are literally bringing down under to New Orleans and it's going to be off the hook. Well, I mean, look, you know, given that the down under is generally the best place to have fun when you're in the lifestyle, you know, and we're bringing that to New Orleans. Wow.
We know how to do it, baby. We are all about the down under. Absolutely. How was that? How was that for flirting? Was that? That was pretty good. That was pretty good. I mean, you've been working on that while you've been on holidays. I'm really impressed. Holidays. I say holidays. You've been working. I've been working, yes. Thank you for that. I mean, that's all I got for today. Have you got anything else you want to bring up? No, I think we're done. I think thank you all for giving us enough of a kick in the ass to actually get back up and do some podcasting.
And a big thank you to our friends down here in Australia who we went on a little holiday with and they did a joint podcast with us for anyone who's not checked that out yet. They're over at By the By. That's B-Y-T-H-B-I and I throw an at in front of it if you're on Twitter and I think that's where, I know they're atoms of love on Twitter. They are. So they are at the atoms of love. So that's T-H-E-A-T-O-N-S of love. So the atoms. Yeah. So thanks to them for sharing We only just got those podcasts up recently. That was nothing to do with them. That was all my fault.
But we've got another one here now, and hopefully we'll get this one up tonight. So thank you all for your patience. That's right. And we are actually going to record two more over the coming weeks that I'm still traveling away. We do need to cover two pretty important events. One is the last Sydney pub crawl that we hosted, and also our secret spot's birthday. So they had their sex. second birthday and we need to talk about that because there was certainly some interesting and quite exciting times in there as well. Yes, there were. Well, for me, we had fun. We had. Yes, we did.
Yes, we had a lot of fun. So we'll record those soon and we'll pop them up. But thanks everyone for listening as always and this is C. And this is D. And this is Swinging Down Under.
