Recent Dates and Oui Oui Sex – P45

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Welcome to a new podcast. We are going to share about sexy events and dates? Yeah, I think it should be fairly interesting. There's been a pretty big gap since the last time we spoke. So there's been a lot of stuff going on. Good segue though, because what I want to talk about just really briefly is who we listen to or what we think about the podcasting community. Years ago, before we got into this, Dee actually started by listening to some podcasts and then harassed me into also listening to some podcasts. Harassed you? You did. I mean, that sounds a little... Twisted my arm.

It sounds a little brutal. So does twisting someone's arm, but you know. Yeah, I think I certainly, I coerced you into. You did. Coerced is probably a more accurate term. And more recently, we've been, well, I've been extremely busy and I have had a bit of delay of my listening to the podcast that I like to listen to and I realised I have about 15 episodes to catch up on, so... approximately 15 hours of listening to do.

But the reason I wanted to pause on this is that the podcasting community brings so much information to the lifestyle and everyone has their own flavor, experiences, differences and humor. And I really enjoy listening to so many different kinds of podcasts. And I find even myself, I get different things out of them and I have some aha moments. And I just wanted to do a shout out to everyone who spends the time podcasting for everyone who's listening and of course thanks to the listeners who continue to download and hear us rambling for hours.

Yeah, well I mean that was a good ramble, perfect example of a ramble. Although I think it is great that we've got a lot of different styles of podcasters out there now and let's not forget radiocasters as well.

So it's good, it's a much bigger pool now than it used to be I think even when we started which is great because now we have more people to listen to although I do get to the point where sometimes I run out of time to listen to all the podcasts I want to listen to yeah but that's you know that's life and the more information that's out there for everyone to to listen to or possibly even bring new people into the lifestyle the better but for us people who are in the lifestyle I think it adds a level of humor to it as well or we can be like yeah that's happened to us many many times absolutely so thank you thank you and if you want a list of who we listen to drop us an email we be happy to mention who we listen to regularly.

I'm sure we can just tag it to the end of this, to the detail of this podcast. Yeah, let's do that. Let's put it up online. And by let's, I mean you. Okay, I'll do that. I'm making a mental note. I will put up all the people that we listen to up on our website. Sweet. So, let's get into recent events. It's been a while since we've podcasted, so we have quite a few dates and mischief happening here in Asia. Yeah, mischief and non-mischief as well. Learning. So, where would you like to start? Let's talk about our I'm going to call them the ghosting couple. Let's talk about them. Ghosting. Yeah.

Ghosting. Well, so just to start off, we met this couple through SDC and we've mentioned them before, but they're a bit more prevalent in this area, but they also capture our travellers. These particular people were locals, as in they live in the same country we live in, which is fantastic. It's a good start. And we'd been talking to them for a few months and trying to match up our schedules, but also just chatting and seeing if we had any interest in each other. Yeah. That proceeded to then go offline to kick.

So we started talking on the kick app and there was all four of us then interacting. Now, they were... When did it get weird for you? It was... They were probably the most secretive couple I think we've ever spoken to. Yeah, it almost became a bit of a perverse challenge for us to understand who these people were and meet up with them because of how secretive they were. But it was also bordering on annoyance. At some point, You've got to give yourself away a little bit. And that could be your initials, your name, where you live, what you do, or even a photo of yourself. At some point.

You've got to give something away. You have to. Yeah. You've got to give something to get something back. Right. Yeah. But not only that, I mean, uh, we had just recently, which is something that this is probably prudent to mention right now. We had a couple who, who wouldn't give us any, uh, any images, whether it be, well, headshots, we were chasing some headshots before we met them.

And, um, I've, probably gotten a little harsh on some of the things now and I actually just made I said look we don't meet people without headshots because frankly we don't know who we're going to be catching up with when we supposedly catch up with them so we're a bit at a bit of an impasse either you are happy enough to share with us who you are and I don't mean names address or anything like that all I wanted was a photo of them to make sure that well frankly that there was more than one person in the couple and there was some some entry there physically as well.

And there was some interest as well, yeah. And unfortunately, they weren't willing to share that. So, I made the call and just said, look, well, if that's the way it is, then I'm sorry we can't meet. Good luck in your journey. But this couple, we almost did get to that point. We almost did decide to not turn up. But eventually... I think I got to that point. You did. Eventually, after many, many discussions and days of talking and we finally, you know, and we were sharing a lot. Like, I was sharing multiple photos of us and this is what I do.

And we've spoken about it before, but we all have something to lose. You know, there is always and there can be an element of secrecy and there can be an element of concern about being, you know, sharing information. But at some point, you've got to give it away. And so, we were doing a lot of that on this one. And finally, they sent us their names, their first name. And photos. And a photo of them. Which was the day before we were meant to meet with them. The day before we were meant to meet them. Yeah. So, they were quite secretive to start with.

and it comes to pass we probably understand a little more why that is the case but we're not going to mention why that is here because it's, you know... You've got to respect people. The reason that we ask people to send us stuff is because we will respect their limitations. And privacy. And privacy, that's right. So we're not going to talk about that here but what we will say is that we did catch up with them. We did, twice as a matter of fact. Twice, yeah. So the first date, we ran out to a wine bar... The evening went quite well.

There was not a lot of flotatious discussion and certainly it was, for me, quite difficult to get them to talk about the lifestyle in general. They were very happy to talk about common things. Common interests. Business. Yeah, business. Travel. Naval. Everything. But getting them to chat about the lifestyle was difficult. Now, we left that date and we instantly – And it was a good date. It was a good date. Yeah. Yeah. We quite enjoyed it. She was attractive. They were... He was attractive. You might want to throw that in there as well. He was attractive. They were interesting as a couple.

Yeah. They led interesting lives. Yeah. They're great conversationalists. Yeah. It was a good event. We really enjoyed ourselves. And then we left and we instantly did the thank you for the date and we'd like to catch up again. Let's try to catch up and match our calendars. Yeah. So, given that C is now doing quite a substantial amount of, Southeast Asia travel and the gentleman of the couple also has quite a bit of travel as well. It is quite difficult to get the two calendars to match, but we did get them together. A month later. A month later, and we caught up with them again.

And this catch-up was a little different. It was a little, I'm going to say it was a little more awkward from the beginning somehow. It was. In the drive on the way over, though, we did our, well, let me back it up a little bit. she had made it very clear that they had something on early the next morning and that there was going to be no play. Yeah. Because we were already planning on, okay, do they come back here? Do we get a hotel? What is our position if we decide that we're going to take things back to a play scenario? Yeah.

But then she'd saved us the hassle of needing to worry about that because she'd made it very clear that that evening was not going to be a play evening. So then on the way in the taxi to the date, I said that I would really like to focus a little bit more about on some sexy talk. Yeah. Something a little bit more flirtatious, a little more sexy, a little more risque, I suppose. Or even just understanding what they even wanted out of the lifestyle. Like, do they want to have, you know, sex? Do they want to just do same room sex? Do they want to do just oral play?

Like, are they looking for people that are pants on and pants off friends or just one night stands? You know, we were unable. We haven't really actually had the ability to cover that up until. No. You're right, I'd forgotten.

Do they like, plushy love horse play like you know the list goes on plushy love wow I mean I think there's a photo of you on Twitter with a big bear there is there is it was groping me he was totally feeling you up it was groping me dirty bear so that was my my task for the evening my well my want I wanted to get that information out of them so we had the opportunity to start talking about topics that were slightly more sexy than you know business and management and I was unable to do that throughout the date yeah it was quite difficult I don't think I managed to really achieve it either.

But I think, like I said, from the beginning, the date seemed a little more awkward than it had the time previous. So we, yeah, we didn't, I don't think it was as well gelled. And I think it probably was because we were trying to understand a little bit deeper of them as well, which made it, I think, made them uncomfortable given their security, you know, their secrets. secrecy that they wanted to uphold. I think it may have made them a little more uncomfortable. Okay. My guess.

Well, every time I tried to see the conversation, it was redirected back to business and management and, you know, holidays, which is cool. I mean, that's fine. We don't mind talking about those sorts of things, but that's definitely in only the friend zone and not talking about anything sexy. So I don't know. Is there anything else you want to mention of that date? Well, not really. I think the date, as I said, it started awkward. I think the middle was awkward and I think it probably finished fairly awkwardly as well. But from there on, I mean, we still enjoyed the day.

It was just, I think there were a few people at the table who'd had a rather tough week at work would be something that I'd say. So with that in mind, I think I was expecting it to be a little bit weird. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, so that was the end of the day. We gave a kiss goodbye and we were done. Yep. So from there on in, I mean, C had an informal bet with me, I suppose, that we'd been ghosted.

Well, initially I decided not to send my thank you straight away message that I would normally always, this is the first time I've never done that, and it was because I was seeking some sort of commitment or interest from them. Because again, at this point, neither of them had touched me, even on the leg, on the shoulder, nothing. Neither of them had made any, indication of wanting to catch up again or even broached the subject. And so I thought that I'm not going to send my usual thanks very much straight after. I'm going to leave it in their court and see what they do.

Now, the next afternoon I decided differently because, again, I am quite a... I try to be a reasonably good human being. And so next afternoon I sent a little thank you and it was great to see you both again. I hope you both are well kind of text, fairly... non-committal. And then the ball then was firmly in their court. There was no, I think I said, let us know if you want to catch up. Yeah. There was no gray area. I had put it out there basically saying that, yep, the ball is in your court and if you're interested, you'll contact us.

And so we've, well, I don't know that you've added that if you're interested, you'll contact us. That wasn't, that was inferred. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah, but just to be clear. So, and that was a month and a half ago? Probably a month ago. Yeah, so that being the case, we will put this down to a ghosting scenario, which is a little shit, to be honest. Not because I have a problem with them not liking us, because that's what it comes down to, they don't like us, but that's fine. I have no issue with somebody not liking me.

It's more that I have an issue with them not having the courage to tell me that. So that's where we ended with that one. So again, not a great... not a great run for us here. Mind you though, if they'd have come back to us and said, look guys, not sexually attracted to you, keen to catch up as friends, that would have been perfectly fine. Yeah. Or, or either. Or don't like you at all and your conversation sucks, whatever. Or just, Hey, thanks for your time. Good luck with your journey. Yep. Easy done. Yeah.

No, that's, that's so, I suppose the reason we put this out there is because I think everybody goes through a ghosting every now and again. And we want people to understand that, For all of the good things that happen in the lifestyle, and we've had many good things, there's still some shit ones. No matter who you are, no matter what level you are in terms of play or experience or- Or your standards. Your standards, you still end up with people who just don't like you. And that's fine. I mean, I certainly don't like everyone we've caught up with ever. Yeah, that happens. We have that a lot.

We have people that we catch up with and like, yep, they're interesting to talk to, but maybe we're not going to have sex with them. It's just that's the way it is. Yeah. So moving on, let's move on to something a little more fun and exciting and interesting. Well, you can probably introduce the next single guy because you have had a podcast recently about single guys. So why don't you talk about that? Yeah.

So I think I mentioned in the podcast the 12 ways to get into C's pants, I think it was titled, that single guys, it's actually, it should be quite simple if you're a single guy, provided you just follow the simple rule of being a gentleman. Now, I have to say, this particular gentleman has been a gentleman from the onset. Absolute gentleman. And the reason that I did, part of the reason I did the podcast was because we've met him and the way he's interacted with us has been, I'm going to say stellar in terms of how we like single guys to interact with us.

And because of that, he has surprisingly managed to get into C's pants correct well not surprisingly not surprisingly yeah um so we met through field I believe and through field yeah met through field and started uh conversing I again do the the standard intros making sure that everything's okay with the individual before we move to kick and then involve uh C in the conversation the conversation was flowing really well we didn't we knew that at that time C was going to be away and we knew he was traveling as well. So there was going to be a period of lag before we could catch up with him.

And throughout that period, he was conversational. He kept asking about how we were doing. And I don't mean every day, but maybe, you know, once a week, he'd catch up, just touch base, see how everything's going, see whether we're still interested in catching up, you know, asking relevant questions, asking for photos of us, sending photos of himself, you know, doing, I suppose, things that we would do if we were just meeting, say we're meeting online friends, you know, so just doing the things that I would consider standard everyday stuff.

So, needless to say, we progressed very quickly to the point where we wanted to catch up with him because he was so conversive. But that was unfortunate that the timing, because we couldn't catch up with him for, I'm going to say again a month, at least a month. Yeah, he was away and then, I was away first and then by the time I got back, he was away. So we had our first date just at a bar in the afternoon. I think we caught up for about two hours, had some drinks and just had a chat. And again, it's both normal conversation as in like, what do you do? Where do you like to travel to?

What food do you like? All that sort of just general conversation. And then every now and then something slightly lifestyle-ish. And he admittedly was saying, you know, I've not been doing this for very long. I haven't got a lot of experience. So can you explain? Explain to me X, Y, Z. So I'm going to give him a name right here on the spot because we haven't done that because obviously we want to keep his real name private. I'm going to call him Peppy. Ah, okay. Yeah. So. Peppy. Peppy. So we caught up with Peppy and yeah, it was good. It was good.

We left the first date thinking this guy is a decent guy. He's great at conversation. Very complimentary. Very complimentary. All the good stuff. And yes, you know, Absolutely. Do we want to see him again? Yes. And now before we'd had the chance to send him a message thanking him for the date, he did. He sent us one. Yes, absolutely. And the date was from memory an afternoon date as well, wasn't it? So it was just a catch up for drinks, get to know you, absolutely no chance of, you know, we said that up front, which is kind of like us anyway. There was no chance of any play first time around.

And he was actually surprised that we even mentioned that. I remember the text response. When I said that, he was like, oh, no, I wasn't going to do that. You know, I'm not interested anyway. So that was a good response, I suppose, given that we discussed the fact that we're interested in minds as well as bodies, and he'd also reciprocated that, which meant when he responded the way he responded, that to me instantly ratified what he'd said earlier in the conversation, which was good.

Because it was – I mean, that was a month before, so – It's not that it was, you know, he actually had that thought process rather than him just saying what he thought was correct. And it shows a bit of, I think, and I don't want to sound like I'm just, you know, tarring everyone with the same brush here regardless of whether it's a single or a couple or whatever, but it also shows me that somebody has some substance and standards to them. You know, they don't need to just be out every weekend having sex with whoever they can get their hands on and then bragging about it.

They can make a choice and that person's because they have some interest in them other than just you're another penis or a vagina and fantastic, let's get it on. And so that shows me that he has, you know, a similar substance or placing as what we do. Yes. So that was the first catch-up. Second catch-up was much more interesting. Well, sexy. Second catch-up was at our place. Much more sexy with Pepe, yeah. So Pepe came to our place. He bought four bottles of wine. He did bring four bottles of wine. I mean, straight up, huzzah, you know.

He's already – so in terms of the wine hag over here, my darling wine hag, I think she was suitably impressed with the four bottles of wine that he bought. I was impressed that he had, you know, gone to some trouble as well. Like he'd selected them. It wasn't just four random bottles. He'd picked them. Well, he asked you what wine you liked as well. So he had put some thought into it. And we'd done our usual, you know, sort of cheese and nibbles and – Fruit board? Yes. But we'd already had a bottle of wine before he arrived. Yeah. Just to help. I think he was on time or a little bit?

No, he was a little late, but no, he was half an hour late. Was he? Yeah, that's right. But in saying that, from the onset of the fact when he was going to be late, he kept us in the loop and he was honest. He said, it's looking like I'll be half an hour late. That's right. And he said, my deepest apologies, I'm not normally like this, but he got caught up with a client and Again, I don't care that he's half an hour late, even an hour late, provided... He told us even before the time, as you say. Yeah, he said... He did, you're right.

So provided you're honest about it and you don't say, oh, I'm 10 minutes late and then arrive an hour late. That's a different scenario. An hour late, I mean, that might even be pushing it, even if you do give me the honesty. But he had been very honest up to this point. So I think that really helped. But it was... Again, it was a really easy conversation. I think it was... You know, being back in our house this time, we spoke more about sexy topics. Yeah, what he'd been involved in. Yeah, what we'd been involved in, what we like, what he likes. Yeah, we did ask him.

He hadn't been involved in a lot of things. I think he'd played once with his previous partner with another female. That was it. But he's not been in a relationship for better than six months now, I think. Mm-hmm. So... And that was about all of his experience. So, I mean, that was initially a concern to me due to some of the bad experiences we've had recently, I suppose, in terms of guys. I think also you don't want to terrify people or go too far. So you always want to make sure people are comfortable but then not be overprotective. Yeah. You know, because that kind of gets funny too.

Like, is this okay? Is that okay? Can I do it? You know, sometimes that can be somewhat bit strange for people. Absolutely. We played the card game. We did play up a card game. Yeah, I think... Again, that devilish pack of cards that came out the first time. We have four different card games that we use, and again, we can talk about that on the notes we put up online. But there's one of them that is... I would say for people that you've slept with, I'm going to say more than three times. That's what I'm calling that. It can be pretty full on. It can be full on, and Dee pulls it out.

And basically, the images are quite... you know, expert level, I'm going to say, and really you need to be more comfortable playing with the other people. If you're going to do these cards and, but, but he was intrigued. He was, he was intrigued and he was like, what do you mean? Show me. And so the first two, again, I pulled out one, I think was the first one was maybe fisting. And the second one was anal play or something like that. Yeah. Anal play on a man. It was a rusty trombone, I think is the actual, the actual term for it. Yeah. So that, It just gives you an indication.

So we kind of laughed and put those aside and pulled out the pack that we generally tend to use more often and that's the four different scenarios. There's a couple of question cards and a couple of action cards and it ranges between, you know, just touching base on like put your hand up if you... I've got to say, sorry, I interrupted, but I've got to say there's the four cards, the four different packs gives you an idea of where the guy or where the people sit in the room when they pick from the first pick for me.

Yeah, well, every time, again, you know, Dee likes to roll straight into it, so you always go to the most hardcore. You did this time again, and you did it the last time we pulled them out as well. No, I don't. Okay. I don't always go. I beg to differ. But you pulled out that first card again the first time round, and this card itself within that pile was also actually quite an extreme one. And I remember you read it out, and then you went, probably not great for the first card and slid it back under because I think one of the actions again was a bit...

Well, I mean, it's one of those things, right? It's like take your pants off and go down, you know, get someone to go down on you for a minute. The joyous thing about all of this stuff is that it's all weather, it's all comfort-based. If the person's not willing to do it, I wasn't willing to do that one. If I'm not willing to do it, I'm simply going to slip it back under the deck and say, no, I'm not going to do that. I read it out as a... to be polite rather than any reason for me. You know, if I'm not going to do it, I'm not going to do it. Yeah.

Well, how long do you think we played the card game for? Ten minutes. No, it was more than that. Because I think you got to the point where you were like, all right, enough of the card game. No, we moved, we got sick of that card game. Oh, correct. For about, we played it for about ten minutes and everyone was playing the weakest of the cards and because of the fact that everyone was kind of horny, I thought we moved into – we did move into the action ones because I took my top off and he had to kiss my nipples and stuff like that. So, we were moving into that.

That's still the third – that's level three, not level four. So, I think everyone was past the point of wanting to step up to level four by the time they got there. So, then I believe you actually said, let's play the other game. Which – Is it the same pack we were using the first time around or was it a different one? Same pack. Same pack, but we pulled out the hard core. We do pull out the big ones. We do pull out those few cards. So just to put this in perspective, that pack is meant for married couples. It's not a swingers card game.

It's meant for couples to keep their love life spiced up. So it's meant for people who- I feel like anal fisting is pretty spicy. It's fucking spicy. I can just imagine. So you're a long time married, You pull the anal fisting card. But if it's a long-term married couple... Who hasn't experimented. Who hasn't experimented at all, I'm going to say it's probably less likely that the male is open. Well, no, actually, that's not true. That's not true. I don't think anybody's open to anal fisting as their first very first play session playing in a card game. Well, there you have it.

So, yeah, so you said let's move on to the other card game because I think everyone was getting pretty horny by then. Yeah. And we wanted to get things rolling a little quicker. And the way this card game works is you pick seven cards, you pull out the one you're most comfortable with. Oh, no, you pull out two or three, don't you? Or just one or whatever it is, yeah. Whatever it is. You pull out a number of cards that you're most comfortable with. Put them in the center. Put them in the center and then shuffle the deck and go again.

So basically the person next to you could end up with your previously rejected cards. Yes. And then they'd have to pick from that. Exactly. So the idea is that it gets progressive. It starts with the simpler stuff and gets more progressive from there. Now, generally, I think the times we played this card game with single guys, every... You never make it through your choices. No, you never make it through the choices. But additionally, I think after card three or four, you're generally getting pretty hot and heavy. And then this one was no different. Yeah. So I think card three was...

So your pack goes from like, what, 50 down to how many cards that you end up taking to the bedroom? Well, I mean, you... You could essentially take it. them all. Yeah, you can essentially take them all, but we never go that long because... And then you play them in order of preference, don't you? Yeah, because then it's from soft core to hard core, I suppose. Well, it depends on what somebody's picked.

Exactly, but typically people are going to pick the one they're more comfortable with first, and then as the decision becomes harder and harder, they'll pick the stuff they're not comfortable with, or less comfortable. If they're not comfortable, they shouldn't be playing that card. But... You then ended up after card two. I think we went away with the cards, didn't we? No, I think card two you said, let's take this to the bedroom. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, there you are. Yeah. So it works. Again, the end of the story is the card games, they work. They do work.

So card two, you took us to the bedroom and then... And you don't need cards. Let's do a sidebar. We talk about the cards often. You really... I mean, we could quite easily have him over, have some cheese and wine and then start fondling... and kissing and all the rest of it. Now we could. Yeah, but while I... First time round is a little different. It just makes that progression simpler. Now, I mean, the second time we've caught up with him twice now. Well, three times or four times in fact. But if... The first time we... The second time we played, we didn't need any sort of introduction.

It was actually exactly as you described it. It was, okay, I'm moving to your couch. I'm going to touch on you. I'm going to... oh, do you mind if I give you a kiss? And that's how it progresses. But first time round's a lot tougher. It is, but also the card game's quite fun. It is fun. It is fun, especially because it'll challenge you to do things that you normally wouldn't do with a first-time partner.

And also, you get to answer, if you're playing the questions one, you get to actually answer some questions maybe that, you know, other people are interested in hearing, especially in a group or couple-couple sessions. You get to ask some people some rather naughty questions and then actually hear the answers. Yeah, for sure. So that's quite fun. It is. It is a lot of fun. I stole your thunder. We were heading to the bedroom. I don't know that it's my thunder. I'm pretty sure that it was your thunder. Okay. Maybe. Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't. I'm pretty... I'm confident it was your thunder.

I remember hearing the rumbles. Oh, okay. And there was a clap. Maybe that was a spank. Maybe it was a spank rather than a clap. Mm-hmm. Now, playing with him, we're probably not going to do a blow-by-blow, but what I will say. Blow by blow. Oh, God. Unintentional pun, but I'm going to take the points for it anyway. Yeah. Good. Puntastic. Puntastic. But what I do want to say is that he would have to be, in terms of the people we've played with, two things about him in the bedroom. He's probably one of the most complimentary lovers we've ever had. Lovers? Sex partners. Yeah. Yeah, better.

Sex partners that we've, or probably even close to me even having, like in terms of Well, certainly I wouldn't consider myself as complimentary of you during sex as he is. He is extraordinarily complimentary and hats off to him. I mean. It's kind of cool. It is very cool. Sexy and love it. It's great. You feel really sexy because he keeps telling you. I mean, I'm now taking away a little bit from what you're going to say, but he says, you know, he'll be fucking you from behind and be saying, your ass is so gorgeous and, you know, oh my God, I just... You're so beautiful or whatever.

You're so beautiful and, you know... Yeah, so anyway. But the other thing, the second thing about him in the bedroom is that he also talks dirty. Yeah. And this is the first person who's ever spoken dirty in the bedroom. For you ever? Mm-hmm. Okay. Yep. Well, I mean, I throw it out there every now and again, but it's not my... I mean, I'm not the king of dirty talk. No, and certainly... Well, definitely the first ever where we've been with people. And so that, it took me by surprise for a little bit the first time, but then after I was like really getting into it.

So I remember, I can't remember if you were behind, if you were having sex with me from behind and I was sucking his cock or it was the other way around. So he was behind me and I was sucking on your cock. And, you know, again, he's complimentary, complimentary. And then all of a sudden he'll just randomly throw out a, oh yeah, yeah, suck that cock, suck that cock hard. You know, and it's like, whoa, and then it's amazing and sexy and fun. And he's a good father. He's good lady. Yeah. Good lady. Yeah. He has all those things. So that kind of, it was kind of cool. And, you know, I liked it.

And also, I guess because it's my first proper time that that's happened, I didn't think that I would know how I was going to react. And yeah, I like it. And there's a cute innocence to him as well. I shouldn't say cute. There's an innocence to him. That's true, actually.

So it's almost like peeking behind the curtain a little bit into someone's like personality more because I would not have ever thought that he was going to say that during sex and then he said it and I was like whoa and that's kind of really arousing too because one not everyone gets to experience and hear that but two he does kind of seem a little bit like he wouldn't say it so the sheer fact that he does kind of makes it even more naughty yeah absolutely so I sat back quite a bit during this play session and just watched actually it's probably do you recall it now enough to talk about what your favourite thing was um my favorite thing absolutely you serious my favorite thing was when you when you were he was fucking you from behind um you looked at me you were looking me square in the eyes and you said um uh yeah fuck me hard peppy okay that was my favorite thing okay yeah where you were being you were really being satisfied i and i wasn't even i mean i was engaged in terms of being there and being close to you but I wasn't engaged in terms of you touching me sexually or anything it was just him fucking you yep it was it was so sexy it was really really hot that night um I think we finished up at about midnight by memory but um we were laying there on the bed for I'm gonna say a good hour afterwards yeah well you you fell asleep for half and half an hour no that was this latest time that we caught up it was actually an hour and a half that was this latest time I wasn't asleep that time um But that was nice.

You know, we just caught up after and we sat laying around naked, just chatting. Again, he was being super complimentary even after. And also was saying, you know, he was really surprised that he was able to do that with us, which was, again, really nice of him to say because he's like, you guys are a lovely couple. You know, I enjoy talking with you and this is such a... He felt comfortable. Yeah. He felt comfortable that we were also comfortable in our own relationship. He said that we had... He could tell we had a very secure relationship. Yeah, it's really nice to hear that as well.

But, I mean, to skip on, because I think, you know, we've covered the sexiest bit for me was that. What about you? What was the sexiest bit? Probably dirty talk. Yeah. Yeah, hands down. Yep. But we actually caught up with him on a casual visit after that, and then we've caught up with him against just last weekend. And this time he was hosting us, so we went around to his place. And this time he busted a move on you. He busted a move on me before. Before we get to that, we turned up at his house. He had the wine ready. He had salads. He had prepared. Yeah. And that was kind of nice and sexy.

The fact that he wasn't just last minute like, crap, I better grab some chips or something. But also, I mean, yes, absolutely. More credit to him. And also, just, and this is not to take away from this. He halfway through the night said, look, I need you to understand. I bought these salads. That doesn't matter. I mean, he's a single guy, right? So you're not expecting that he's going to be at home doing hard labor to support us while we're there. Yeah. But he put some thought into it. He bought nice food. We shared nice food, exceptional wine, exceptional champagne. Should we take a pause?

In fact... He opened up a bottle of champagne. I had not had the privilege of trying this particular champagne. You hear it in the movies, on the radio, blah. Well, he bought it to our first... He did bring it to our first catch-up and I refused to drink it because, one, we'd only just really started catching up and I didn't want him to waste, not waste, but spend that on us. And then the second was we'd already had a bottle or two of wine. It would have been a waste of a bottle of wine. It wasn't paying it justice. Yeah.

So he opened up a 2006 bottle of Dom Perignon and I, first of all, again, I was like, oh, no, could not, could not. And you went, you know what, if he wants to open it for us, And on us. It's the second time that he's pushed it. So I thought, I mean, it's a lovely gesture. Please understand. I mean, a totally unexpected gesture. And he also did say, you know, I want to share this with people. I want to share it with you two. So that was amazing. And I have to say, I felt really, I felt amazing that he would want to share that with us. And it was. It was a fantastic bottle of wine. Fantastic.

Not a surprise. Champagne, yes. Excuse me. Not a surprise. but also just such a lovely thing for him to offer and very unexpected. And never expect it again, I might add. No. I mean, we would never expect that somebody would do that and never, but for somebody to do that spontaneously, that's, I mean, it's lovely. Yeah, it is lovely. Very, very, so, and he made a move on you. He did make a move. So he made a move on me on the couch. Well, he moved to the couch.

He moved to the couch, the area that I was sitting on, got close, We were chatting and, you know, I was touching his leg and stuff like that and touching your leg at the same time. And then he made a move on me and I basically said like, oh, I was going to say, yeah, I said, why don't we take this to the bedroom? At this point, I would say that you were probably fairly wet. And then, but also then I said like, why don't I go put on some lingerie? Yes, you did. You very much did say, let's put on some lingerie.

You bought, I mean, in our swinger bag, this time around you had some lingerie that you took, which was a corset, corset top. which you look fantastic in, which we bought in Spain when we were there on holidays. We bought that before going to a swingers club in Spain. And a nice set of red panties, sexy, cheeky panties. And you wore that into the bedroom. We were in there waiting, fully closed, just chatting, enjoying each other's company. And in you strutted. Yeah. Now, I just want to mention again, Again, a pause.

Confidence in the lifestyle is extraordinarily sexy and we always, you know, we strive for it, but always in the back of our minds there is always some self-conscious. Self-doubt. Self-doubt. And, you know, we've moved and I think we've spoken about this in the past, but we're not currently our ideal shape at the moment, slightly. Certainly the nibblies you keep providing is not helping with that. The cheese and wine we keep talking about consuming probably. Probably not helping. But, yeah, so I was a little bit self-conscious about it. I have no idea why.

You've got to push through it, though. I could have decided I don't want to do that and I don't want to wear that or whatever. I mean, it's the same corset as I've owned previously. It's the same panties as I've owned previously, but they just don't fit as well as I would like them to or what they have done in the past. So you walk out of the room and you've just got to just put it out there. And both of them? the man in the room thought you looked absolutely fucking amazing. So it's one of those things about self-consciousness. It starts with self.

It doesn't actually mean that anybody else sees that issue. But yeah, certainly you looked amazing. Yeah, I know. I just want to throw it out there though for the people that are listening that maybe in lingerie or they feel a little bit doubtful about themselves. And you've just got to kind of push through it. And I believe Peppy Pounce you as soon as you walked in the room. He did. He did do that. I mean, he fucking pounced you. And another fantastic, fantastic sex session. Oh, absolutely. And again, complimentary, dirty talk. Yeah, dirty talk.

He was a little bit rougher with me this time, I would have to say, in terms of like he was really going at me for a while there from behind. He was fucking at you, right, yeah. So, I think it's kind of funny to also reflect on how, I guess, relationships can progress if you continue to see people and they're kind of pants on and pants off friends because you may be a little bit unsure, a little bit delicate to begin with and then it's like second and third and fourth time. But you enjoyed it. It wasn't that he wasn't either. No, I enjoyed it but that's what I'm saying.

It's almost like even the sex can progress. Yeah, of course. I mean, I think we've discussed some of the good and bad, I suppose. You know, from every sex session, please understand, it's not like there was something that Pepe did that was horrendous but from every sex session you figure out that that there's something that people enjoy and something they don't, right? Or have a preference for. Or have a preference for. And I think you and I have both had a discussion about what the things are that we have preference for and perhaps how some of the things we could change in the bedroom.

And one of the joyous things about having hopefully a long-term relationship with this person is that we can discuss those and we can change some of the, things that we're doing for the better. And in no way does this reflect that it's a poor sexual experience because it was fantastic. It's the same thing for like if, you know, if we did have play partners and I was going down on a girl or going down on a guy and, you know, it was obviously good but it's not great or it's not what they... It's not... You strive for perfection. It's not... Yeah, it's not maybe what they exactly like.

Then, you know, to be able to have that, again, open communication and say, you know what, you kind of did this with your hand or you didn't do this with your hand and this would be like I really love it when my partners do this with me yeah absolutely or my wife does this to me or whatever oh I forgot you brought your vibrator with you as well I did my vibrator yeah and we were using that actually that was whilst he was he was fucking you hard from behind I was trying to get keep the vibrator on your clit which I just couldn't achieve you couldn't achieve and that was one of the things after I told you I was like sweetie you're really you're really yeah I actually did tell You said stop doing that because you can't stay where it needs to be.

You're subtracting. Yeah, rather than adding. So there you go, honest conversation. Well, that's one of the things I've learned. And one of the things that I won't do again in future. I mean, we have pulled that off in the past, but I suppose just this time around it wasn't. Different vibrator as well. Yeah, different vibrator. You just never know. Yeah. So it was, but it was very sexy. Very sexy. And although I will admit. admit, as Dee kind of alluded to before, after we were lying there again and I'd had a massive week and I had... And a couple of massive orgasms.

A little tiny little snooze. Yeah, a little nap nap. A little nap nap while we're talking. He was also massaging me though. Yeah. He was on my back. I was lying on my stomach and he was massaging me and I just maybe had a little nap nap. That was actually, I've got to say, another plus to Pepe is that he, even after the act... It's not shuffle us out the door. You know, he was actually interested in, still interested in you and still interested in talking with us. Actually, I think the first time we played, I was massaging Kim after, wasn't I? Yeah. Maybe that's why.

Oh, maybe he was returning the favour. Maybe that's why. We'll see. Should ask him, actually. Yeah. I don't think so. I think, I honestly believe it's just, he was just being a gentlemanly individual. Yeah. And making you feel relaxed. And he certainly succeeded at that, given you slept for probably the best. apart of half an hour or longer. No, less. Yeah, no. Totally just ducked out for like 10, 15 minutes. No, you did not. Of blissful, blissful, soundless sleeping just looking amazing whilst I was sleeping. No, you did not. You did look amazing. Yeah, totes amazeballs.

That's what I was doing. Hey, do you want to talk about our recent guess or do we want to leave that to a different podcast? Because we've been talking for a little bit now and I think maybe we could give a bit of a teaser and then do it again. Yeah, I think let's do a teaser because we've got a few things to cover. All right. What's your teaser? Well, I'm just going to say Mr. and Mrs. Belay are back. They are back, baby, if you remember hearing them very, very early. Now, the teaser is going to include this. We have played with these guys. They are our pants-on and pants-off friends.

We absolutely adore them. Yes. We don't talk about them very often on the podcast, mainly just because we don't like to give it all away for them. Well, I mean, it's not... They're ours. We're not giving them to you, so stop asking us. Can I say they're... There's a number of couples that we have this... It's not that they mind us talking about them. It's just that we catch up with them regularly enough. Well, we did, certainly, when we were in Australia, that we catch up with them regularly enough that if we continually talked about them, we'd never talk about anything else.

I mean, even here, though, we have events and play sessions that we don't always talk about on the podcast, but we will talk about them a little bit. We're not going to go into detail. Yeah, we are.

can't have them so stop begging them they're mine let's just say there was a double dildo involved let's just say that that's a little teaser so we'll do another podcast about that yeah but it was a it's a fantastic podcast and something to look forward to alright that's a fantastic story speaking of looking forward to we will quickly mention for everyone who's been keeping track of our desire trip coming up in November this year we're going on the 11th to the 18th of November 2017, it is pretty much almost sold out.

There are a few rooms left, the master suite with the plunge pool and the passion suite. So, if you haven't had a chance to get on and have a look, do so, or you can also go on the wait list if you want to try and wait for one of those entry-level rooms. Yeah, absolutely. So, 63 of 64 couples currently booked. Or if you're sexy enough, you can share a room with us. I don't know about Dye's, Desire's rules and... Or if you're sexy enough... You can sleep underneath the bed. You can sleep under our bed and listen to the sexual things going on on top of our bed. So, yeah, so that's fun.

We're looking forward to that. And actually, we were just talking to the Joneses this morning on Skype and we're starting to talk a little bit about some of the sexy things we've got planned. So, we're keen for that. Looking forward to the event just as a trip away, to be honest. Looking forward to just being in desire again. Yeah, hells yeah. Yeah. Hells yeah. Facts yeah. Yeah. So contact us. We've had some emails recently. We also had some iTunes feedback. I don't know whether you've been keeping track of that, Dee. No, that's not what I do. That's not part of your job description?

No, I edit the podcast. You turn up for the sex. I turn up for the sex. I'm a token penis in the room when required. Also a token penis out of the room when required. Something else we'll discuss. That's about it? Yeah, that's it. You don't listen to the iTunes? No, I fill the salt and pepper shakers in our house, remember? Oh, in the oil. That's my requirements. Good job, honey. Yeah. I am the number one husband ever. I'm pretty sure there's probably a lot of husbands out there right now saying, this is bullshit.

I drop the kids off and I do this and I do that and I give their back massages and you're like, hey, I fill the salt and... I drop the kids off every morning. Anyway. Because we don't have any. See? But I still do it mentally. I get in the car. You're there. Actually, I put the two children in the back seat, clip them into their, you know, one's in the bassinet, one's in... Just pretending to do it doesn't mean it's actually happening. You don't get any credits for pretend family time. Oh, okay. No credits for that.

Well, shit, then I suppose all the sex we've had while I've been masturbating doesn't count either then. You're right, it doesn't. I mean, I'm having sex with you four times a day. Yeah. Oh, dear. So, yeah, drop us an email on cnd at swingingdownunder.com, and you can catch up with us on Twitter, and you can private message us on Twitter as well if you guys all use Twitter. So we're just swinging down under, or swing down under. I don't know. One of those two. Look us up. The Google machine will find us. The Google machine will help you come and find us. So, yeah, thanks again for listening.

It's been fun talking about some of our recent... And a shout out to Pepe. And a shout out to Pepe if he's listening. Well done, Pepe. I don't know whether he does listen. No. He does know we're podcasting. Twitter is also at swingdownunder. Yes, I'm actually going to try and convince Pepe to come on our podcast. That'd be exciting. I know. I like the idea of that. Maybe we could organise that for this evening. Well, we can't do it for this evening because we're out. Yeah, I know. Now you're imagining it. It also doesn't count because you're imagining it. Oh, damn it. No, see.

So yeah, thanks for listening. We've had fun. And this is C. And this is D. And this is Swinging Down Under.