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We hope you enjoy, now let's get into the episode. G'day guys and welcome back to Wanderlust Sw's Podcast. Today's episode is 149 and it's all about Podcasterpalooza event in Palm Springs, California. I just got back, I've finally gotten back onto the time zone, I think, and ready to kind of share some of the details.
I'm going to go through my seven best and worst moments of PCAP and i'm also going to share a whopping 48 and a half minutes of audio from a bunch of pcap attendees sharing their experiences their journey some of the ups and downs that they had at pcap as well as some lessons learned and some really sexy moments so hang around for that now this episode is sponsored by the major sponsor of PCAP 2022. Thank you very much to the team at Hashtag Open. We were humbled by the fact that they joined us on site, almost the entire team of Hashtag Open, in fact.
So Hashtag Open is a dating site where you can connect and explore with other ethically non-monogamous people and their partners. They use hashtags to identify what your interests are, both sexually and outside of the bedroom. Head over to the show notes today. I've got the link for hashtag open in the show notes, as well as our link tree on Twitter and Instagram. So thank you to the entire team and hashtag open. Thank you for sponsoring PCAP 2022 and today's episode. Now, before we get into the highlights and some details from the attendees, I must do a cultural tidbit. It's only fair.
So Palm Springs is where we held this PCAP 2022 event. It was our largest event to date. And what I'm really excited about in Palm Springs and in particular, the cultural tidbits I've got to share with you today is that in Palm Springs, 7.2% of the households are made up of same-sex couples. Now, you may be thinking that seems not particularly high, right? 7.2%. But the national average in the United States is actually 1%. So, from 7% to 1%.
So, it's a significant number when you look at that, and that is households made up of same-sex couples and in 2019 palm springs was actually the first all lgbt city council to be elected in the united states of america i was really impressed by palm springs as a city you know i was happy to see the stores the inclusivity the fact that our attendees and you'll hear about people walking out in costumes walking out in their bdsm gear, walking out and just being their true authentic selves at bars and restaurants in Palm Springs and feeling welcomed, feeling like they could be themselves without judgment.
And I think that those two cultural tidbits just give you an indication of the why. Now, once again, Daryl could not attend PCAP 2022. He was supposed to attend, but he's dealing with a massive merger of two very large companies at the moment and he couldn't attend. I'm going to share a quick message from Daryl before I get into my seven best and worst moments of PCAP 2022. Kate's made it back from PCAP and she gave me the debrief and it appears that it was the party that I missed that I shouldn't have. Sorry to everyone that I couldn't be there.
I'm not sure I would have added a lot of value, but hopefully some people might have found it interesting having me along as well. But I know it was a spectacular party in Palm Springs. I'm glad you all had a great time and I am hopeful there's another time where we can manage to catch up. This goes out to you.
listening on the podcast with your headset in i'm the voice in the middle of your head telling you i wish to come and see you the next time talk to you soon so i don't know if we should start with the best or start with the worst uh i might start with the best let's do that and then i'll dive into the worst these are my top seven i try to do things a little bit differently there are a number of hosts at podcaster palooza that will be sharing their own personal journeys either in their podcasts or their blogs and in fact if you look out in the show notes today i'm going to list them all with links to either their site or their social media so go and check those out i like to do a little bit of a best, I guess, from my perspective, which of course is the event host, the event manager's perspective.
So sometimes it takes a little bit of an interesting turn. So my best moments, and these are in no particular order, just as I kind of wrote them down, was having people join us for birthdays, anniversaries, surprises, and honeymoons. It's always amazing to me that people not only want to attend a lifestyle event, but that they want to attend a lifestyle event during these special moments and share them with other lifestyle people in their community.
You know, I think sometimes we silo some of these, you know, quote unquote, special occasions for our vanilla friends or our vanilla family, you know, those types of things where it's just vanilla life, right?
And having people integrate those special days or special moments with PCAP has just been amazing and actually had we did have people on their honeymoon so that was fantastic you'll actually hear from them later in the episode the second for me was the mankini plunge this was something that was concocted by Jay and Angie from the average swingers we did it for the first time in Dallas where a number of guys came along in either mankinis or they borrowed their partner's bikini bottoms and the intention originally was to create a very safe inclusive space for people who identify as male to be adored you know to have body confidence to spend some time dancing around the pool and then collectively as a group plunge into the pool and in dallas we had great participation for the first time but really everybody in palm springs turned up the heat i can't believe how many guys came out and donned their mankinis or borrowed their partners bikini bottoms turned up did the plunge so what we also do is we put a number of ones in in their little mankinis and then we give those ones and those tips to the bar staff.
So I think we raised about $300 for the bar staff in tips, which is never a bad thing. But seeing that many men out and hearing the shouting from the crowd and the clapping and the woohooing and all of those sorts of things as we celebrate the men in the lifestyle is fantastic. And I really hope that continues to grow, to be quite honest. It's just fun seeing everybody come together, having a bit of silly fun, but also being adored by the rest of the people at PCAP.
As you know, we are big advocates of telling men how they look, making sure that they're receiving compliments, as many compliments as females, women in because we think it's really really important so having this as a random thought that happened in dallas from jay and angie and seeing it explode honestly was a super big highlight for me probably the ones diving into the pool and then giving them some bar staff wasn't the best idea that we've ever had but a hell of a lot of fun and another one that I really enjoyed was the the third theme night and this was called hashtag open slate so we named this after our major sponsor hashtag open and the intention was that people would come dressed in white and essentially we wanted to create the biggest live lifestyle art project that has ever existed.
And so everybody came dressed in white. And during this evening, we got there a little bit earlier than we normally would for our evening parties. And the intention was to get dressed, get ready together. The reason we did it on the third night was that I hoped people were a little bit more comfortable with each other at this point. Maybe we're less introverted, you know, able to then mix and mingle with people. And what we did was we had a bunch of ways that you could get dressed together. So we had a body painter there. We had a hair and makeup artist there.
And then we had a kind of do-it-yourself table where we had glitter and fabric spray and body spray and gems and hair products and all this stuff out on this do-it-yourself table.
this was the first time we had ever done this event it was the first time i dreamt up something i guess so crazy and it's the first time i've really seen anything like this either in a lifestyle event or even just a normal event event and i didn't know how it was going to go you never know how these you kind of throw these things out there right and you don't know how people are going to react to them and i was sitting there getting my hair and makeup done by the hair and makeup lady quite early and Cowboy and Muffin attendees you can catch them on Twitter as Cowboy and Muffin they came upstairs and immediately walked over to the do-it-yourself table grabbed some fabric spray paint and started spray painting each other and I did thank them for kind of getting the ball rolling but seeing people actually engage with that seeing people of all genders backgrounds, putting glitter on and gems on and having a great time really was one of the highlights of PCAP 2022.
So if you participated, thank you so much for doing that, because I really didn't know how that was going to actually be received, whether people were going to be like, this is the stupidest fucking theme I've ever heard of, or whether people were going to be like, yes, love it.
And of course, glitter of course glitter it takes you know weeks to get glitter out of anything so thanks for um thanks for being champs guys i really do have to thank the hosts so our sponsors of course are very very important to us without our sponsors like hashtag open we wouldn't be able to put pcap on to the level that we do but it's not just a one-man band you know it's not just although you'll hear later in the episode a lot of thanks for for me during people's journey it couldn't be done without our hosts on site and in particular I do want to make a massive shout out to Mickey and Mallory from Casual Swinger they always really do get stuck in and really help me tremendously at these events and without them I honestly don't know what I would do but I also do want to thank the other hosts who rallied and helped me set up the playroom so I was running out of time on that first day we had some things going wrong that I just hadn't prepared for didn't have the time for and as a result of that I was running really behind schedule with setting up the playroom and during our welcome orientation Mickey grabbed the mic and he said hey we need to rally we need to help Kate can some of the hosts get in and help set up the playroom.
And during our welcome orientation, Mickey grabbed the mic and he said, Hey, we need to rally. We need to help Kate. Can some of the hosts get in and help set up the playroom? And to the hosts that did join me in the playroom and help move furniture and help put together like the sex swing and Life of Spice put all the lighting up and everybody that got in and helped and rallied around me to set that playroom up. Thank you so much because without you guys helping me, that would have been a nightmare. So thank you so much for saving me from having a panic attack.
So that was definitely a best for me. Now, the next thing that I really enjoyed is seeing introverts actively asking people to approach them. So we have a mobile app that we run every event so people can get to know each other and talk to each other. It's free. It's included in the ticket. We don't charge anything for it. And it's a way for people to start to engage. And the intention is that by the time you reach the event at PCAP, we hope you feel a little bit more welcome, a little bit more comfortable. Although, to be honest, the sheer volume of notifications can get overwhelming.
But I did see a bunch of people actively posting in the app with a photo of themselves saying, look, here we are. We're shy. We're introverted a little bit. Can you come and talk to us? Please come and talk to us if you see us. And that to me was just astounding. I loved that because you're responsible for your own fun at these events, right? You're responsible for your life, your journey. And to see people actively going, hey, with a perceived fault of I'm introverted, I'm shy. You know, that's a little bit taboo. It's a perceived fault. But actively going, here we are.
If you see us, please come and say hello, because we may be a little bit shy in approaching you. And taking control of their journey and of their event, I thought was fucking brilliant. So to the people that did that, kudos, good on you. I love seeing it.
And on on a number of occasions I did actually see people walking up and actively talking to those people so that just made me so happy now PCAP has always been a really inclusive event whilst we are couples only our motto is that couples only no matter how you identify we don't care if you're a same-sex relationship we don't care if you're a heterosexual relationship if there's two of you if you're a triad, if you're a polyquod, if you're a polycule. We don't mind how your relationship, how your couple type identifies. And during previous PCAPs, we've had triads there.
We were supposed to have a triad this time that had to cancel, but this time we also had both a polyquod and a polycule join us in Palm Springs. And seeing those types of relationships come into the fold into our events and stopping some of that siloed non-monogamy, well, you're polyamorous and I'm a swinger and I identify open marriage and I identify open relationships and I'm a hot wife and I'm a this.
Seeing those people come together and engage with each other and learn from each other and talk about the lifestyle, talk about how they approach non-monogamy was, again, a really big highlight to me because I think sometimes we come with an air of, well, this is how I approach it and therefore this is how it is. Or this is how I approach it and anybody else who approaches it differently is just stupid.
And what I saw was conversations happening of just a mutual respect and non-judgmental and conversations where it's like that's really interesting thank you for sharing that with me even if it might not be the way that you want to approach the lifestyle you walk away going yeah okay that confirmed it probably still not for me but the fact that people did that with respect and with an intention of trying to educate each other was a really beautiful thing so thank you to to everybody who came, but thank you to the Polycule, to the Polyquads that came along and had those open conversations without judgment and willingness to share with people.
Now, my final one's a bit of a weird one. I'm not going to lie. During previous PCAP events, I have had a real problem with doorstoppers. I know, right? It's so, so weird. There's no door stoppers on doors and it's really difficult to keep the playroom doors open when they're active. And so before I left at the last minute, I turned to Daryl and I said, shit, how, how quickly can you print me some door stoppers? Right. Cause we obviously have a couple of 3d print, probably not. Obviously we have a couple of 3d printers in our house.
And as I was getting ready and packing said to daryl how long would it take and he's like well two hours i'll print you two every two hours and i was like okay i need four and so he printed me these door stoppers and i took them along in my luggage and i can tell you they were bloody needed so that is one of my highlights because it is a nightmare on site when you think about all the things that you forget scissors and tape and stuff that you just randomly need when you host an event that you don't really think about. And honestly, doorstoppers is one of them.
Like we talk about packing a swinger bag. Here's my event swinger bag, and I can tell you it's got doorstoppers in it from now on out. So if you guys run events, that's my little tidbit to you. Get some doorstoppers and take them to your events.
so that's my top seven now I'm going to tell you my worst seven now I've done this kind of every event that we've held I've tried to share some of the back end drama or issues I guess that unfold um even if that's just a personal journey if it's something fucking up like people jumping fences in Miami I've tried to be super transparent with you guys because I think it's important that we share not only the successes, but some of the things that don't necessarily go right on site. So these are my top seven worst moments of PCAP.
A real bummer for me, and it was not spending as much time as I wanted with the PCAP attendees, so my PCAPers. In Miami, I was running around a lot. It was my first proper full hotel takeover. I didn't have a lot of help on site in terms of event assistance. And so I didn't get to spend a lot of time with people in Miami. And that was a real bummer. In Dallas, I kind of thought, okay, I'm going to stop that from happening. And I hired event assistants on site to help me with my daily tasks.
And I was able to spend some more time with people for like breakfast and lunch you know downstairs in the lobby have actual conversations with people that had come to these events and in Palm Springs we grew to a very like the largest that we've ever had at an event of ours and I did have event assistants on site but I didn't have enough and as a result of that I did not get to spend time by the pool, time at these events, really having conversations with the people that come.
And there are so many fabulous people that come to these events that I actually want to personally spend time with, as well as acknowledging everybody who's come along anyway. And it sucks. I walked away going, that was stupid. I should have hired two, actually probably three assistants on site. And if I'd have done so, I would have been able to sit down and enjoy people on a more personal level. And so that sucks for me. That's a complete missed opportunity. I did get invited. I must say this beach bed. Yes, I did get invited to a number of meals and dinners out and stuff like that.
And I just couldn't attend, right? Because I didn't have the time. So that was shit. I need to remedy that. And I will be hiring more people in the future. Now, the third one is a super bummer. It's not selling out. Again, we're super transparent with our events. You know, we don't do the whole like, oh man, we're really broken up here kind of thing on Twitter. I've always been very, very transparent with the fact that we are at 30% sold out, 50%, 70%, 85% sold out.
I've always been very transparent because I don't want people to come along and me blowing up on social media and just lying to people and kind of baiting people. And this was the largest footprint hotel. So the largest in actual footprint, but it's also the largest room volume that we have ever had. So this was a real big step up.
It was 168 rooms on site and we didn't sell out and that was a real bummer to me um financially of course yes i mean that goes without saying you got to pay for those rooms whether they're vacant or not as well as the food and beverage and everything that goes along with it but also i was really really hoping that we would have a large kind of west coast grouping of people come together and we just didn't sell out we didn't get there we we got very close but we didn't actually get there so that was a bummer not so great for me for pcap 2022 the next one is staffing it's hard at the moment during covid and i know everybody's kind of experiencing this with airlines and stuff like that as well probably even in your own businesses but we lost the chef on the first night so we were able to run breakfast and lunch and kind of snacks by the pool and stuff but our restaurant on site should have been I'll see you next time.
But we lost the chef on the first night, so we were able to run breakfast and lunch and kind of snacks by the pool and stuff, but our restaurant on site should have been operating on during the evening as well to give people full meals at nighttime rather than like snacky stuff, and the chef was lost on the first night basically of PCAP 2022, so it was a real bummer that we weren't able to have a full menu the entire weekend. This shit happens, you know, you kind of move on and you adapt and get through it. But it was, you know, a bit of a Debbie Downer.
Another bad one for me was saying goodbye. I cried. I did have a moment. So I was sitting in Jay and Angie's room and I was doing my usual thing of drinking while I watch Angie pack. Jay was also drinking. I can't tell you the number of times I've actually watched Angie pack because Jay does not. He doesn't pack. Angie is the packer in their relationship. I'm curious whether or not you guys have a primary packer in your relationship. That'd be super interesting to know. But Angie is the packer.
And I was sitting on the bed and talking to Jay and Angie, drinking morning mimosas in their room on the day after, basically a couple of days after the event had actually finished.
So there was barely anybody on on site i think at that point there was maybe like eight couples still there and then we had the triple x files come in and we were all sat around the bed again some drinking some mimosas and watching angie pack and then mickey and mallory from casual swinger came in to say goodbye they were just about to fly out and it was at that moment that i realized my tribe are going and i'm not going to have these people around me anymore. And it's going to be until the next event where I get to surround myself with such positive lifestyle influences.
Yes, I'm getting emotional telling you this right now. And it was at that moment that I realized, holy shit, this is it. Everybody's going home. The ride has come to a stop.
And I had a moment, I kind of corrected myself, but I full on had a moment when Mickey and Mallory were going and I was like oh no I'm gonna be alone again so that was shit I didn't like that at all two more okay not having more beds in the playroom so first of all I just want to say that we are humbled by the fact that the venues and hotels and contractors everybody that we work with is fully aware of the kind of event and the kind of attendees that we have. We are very transparent with that because we want to work with people who want to work with us.
We also want to work with people who are fully supportive of a diverse lifestyle. And if they're not, quite frankly, we don't want to give them money. And so with this, I am very, very humbled that they allowed us to take over one of the conference spaces and turn it into a playroom. But we were supposed to have more beds in there. So we were supposed to have eight beds. We only had four beds available. I mean, of course we had like liberators and we had motor bunnies there and we had sex swings there and we had massage tables.
We had a bunch of other things, but I was hoping for more beds because I really did want to create an orgy type bed situation. So that was a bit of Debbie Downer. I would have liked more. However, I'm quite thankful that we had the playroom that we did in the first place. And the final worst situation for PCAP 2022 was the travel. We had so many people that were delayed, that were stressed, flights were cancelled, that had to reroute, that were left overnight, peppy pineapple and looking at you.
And that was was really hard for me you know when when you've planned as an attendee when you've planned something for a six months you've spent the money you've saved up you've gotten excited you're in the app you've got new costumes ready and on the day of you're driving to the airport and you find out your flight's cancelled and that's it for you they're telling you you can't fly for two two days. You know, you're really at the whim of the, at the mercy of the airline or the transit, whatever it is that you're doing.
And there were a lot of travel issues, you know, for whatever reason, into Palm Springs, some travel issues mostly out of Dallas due to weather. And it sucked.
I mean, as an event host, I was stressed about these people not coming because I know how much effort these people and time and money sucked i mean as an event host i was stressed about these people not coming because i know how much effort these people and time and money have put into attending this event to have something like this happen that is completely out of their control is just shitty and so that happened to actually a number of people who who were coming into attending pcap even the two hot wives had to reroute a number of people had to reroute into la hire cars and then drive to palm springs because all the flights were cancelled and a special shout out as well I'll check it out.
Even the two hot wives had to reroute, a number of people had to reroute into LA, hire cars and then drive to Palm Springs because all the flights were cancelled. And a special shout out as well to the Frigid Swingers who just actually couldn't make our event at all. They tried, they tried again, they went to a different airport, they did their best. They really, really tried and they couldn't make it to our event because of flight cancellations and lack of availability from the airlines. And again, it's not their fault. That just happened. So that was really bad.
And yeah, that's one of my worst moments of PCAP 2022. This is going to be a long podcast, guys, because I did mention a 48 minutes of amazing PCAP attendees sharing their journey. Yes, some of it is thanks to me. I mean, I'm quite humbled, but it always does feel a bit weird putting that on a podcast. I'm not going to lie.
and then some of it's people's journeys i mean i'm quite humble but it always does feel a bit weird putting that on a podcast i'm not gonna lie and then some of it's people's journeys and things they've learned or what they experienced at pcap including some personal growth so thank you to all the pcappers who sent in their audio i can't wait to share it with everybody before i head out though i do have to say thank you to our newest patrons girl guy geet jess teddy mark and rebecca who you'll hear from later in this episode chad and stacy and mark thank you so much for joining us I'll see you guys all had an absolute blast.
Oh, and don't forget to check out the content creators who will be posted in my show notes today and again a reminder that this episode and pcap 2022 was sponsored by hashtag open please go and check out their dating app and meet other non-monogamous couples and singles thanks guys bye you don't even know what we're going to talk about no clue really but it's pcap Here we go. spy. You don't even know what we're going to talk about. No clue really. But it's PCAP. We're going to talk about PCAP. I remember that. Oh my god Kate is such an awesomely curated event. Yeah so we had a great time.
We did have a great time. I feel like we were able to be ourselves. I was able to wear my collar and my ears. I felt so welcome with our PCAP friends that I was able to take it out actually into Palm Springs. And, you know, even the people who were not so sure about it, they just came up to us and they were like, tell us about that.
So we so we did i mean we had a lot of really great conversations with people about our dynamic and our thing and what bdsm is to us and our and its intersection with the lifestyle with swinging and so many people learn those who did come up and talk to us learn that it doesn't bdsm doesn't necessarily intersect with the lifestyle for us but they were able to ask some some serious questions right like how do you not do both of those things together and you know so a lot of people asked us about how the whole thing worked with us and really it just came down to i guess i coined a phrase that who are you well do that right do that like do you and unapologetically be yourself because you're surrounded by people who are okay with that he made friends with a couple who this is a hot snapshot made friends with a couple who had a game where they play I'll see you next time.
that he made friends with a couple who this is a hot snapshot made friends with a couple who had a game where they play what's in your pussy and he would gather tools from around the house or wherever or wherever and she would have to guess and she said i was always wrong but they were never wrong together because always ended hot yeah the the point wasn't you know to actually guess what it was it was just uh explore explore and have fun and have fun right i feel like that's kind of what all did that's for the whole weekend absolutely in the pool i feel like we made so many connections that were brief.
We made so many brief connections with so many hot and sexy people. I am like 3000% on and he is 110% on and controlling me with the leash, if you saw that.
and I feel like it's so hard to find a group of people who are at that level we found so many missed opportunities right it was it wasn't we we definitely have we definitely have a list of places to go we don't have enough miles places to go we don't have enough miles oh yeah to do or is that people places to go and people to do yes definitely people to do oh my gosh okay you know the whole event i personally have always been a writer and i've always been terrified to just let it out and i feel like this event has really prompted me to bring that forth i have to thank ams from two hot wives because i feel like she interviewed us in the pool and it was so fun because after we accosted her she was talking about our dynamic and asking us questions and it felt so good it felt so good to be to be seen and to be appreciated and to be interesting and that was really one of the first times that we were able to really talk to somebody about our dynamic in a more or less neutral setting sunny pool in palm Springs, California.
In the middle of the pool, actually. But with somebody who wasn't really trying to judge us on. Or accost us into something. On that. Was curious. Just purely curious. And that felt so good. good there was no there was no judgment or anything it was so thank you ams thank you am so much for that i really appreciate that i mean i'm not gonna lie as the girl in the kitten ears and the collar it's really obvious from my side of things that I am kept and to have someone be so open and interested was great for me personally. Gosh, Crazy Mel's. There we go. Let's talk about Crazy Mel's.
Crazy Mel's Burgers. Shout out to Crazy Mel's Burgers in Palm Springs on the Strip. Yes, that was our favorite place to go and And you know kind of catch up after an afternoon meeting of the mines. We did a lot of that. We did a lot of afternoon play. I think that personally I think the people who found us realized that we are as advertised we go and we go hard. Do we go hard?
You go so hard so hard i think everyone noticed that you go hard maybe me too i don't know but i feel like they realized if they were going to catch us they had to catch us at brunch time to mid-afternoon otherwise we were we were just out to dance right and have a good time and those who did thank you we really appreciate that we had some great brunches and We're going to dance right and have a good time and those who did thank you we really appreciate that we had some great brunches and lunches with people we had some really bold visitors some bold visitors visiting sophie in the afternoon on day one we we loved that we had multiple people visit us uh in the afternoon period right and i feel like the parties were great they were curated amazingly everyone's costumes were so great but for real kate it was unreal and we were who we are we just did that we can't wait for the next pcap go ahead and put us down for another one.
Because we have a list of friends who would love to share illegal popsicles with again. Thank you to everyone who we met, who we will meet. I think now we're going to go home. Yeah. We're going to go home and recap some things.
We're going to recap some PCAPcab if you will all right uh good night everybody hello it's mr and mrs h from the bed office here hello we wanted to give you a bit of insight really into our experience at p-cap so this was our first ever p-cap we'd never been one before right no we tried a virtual one but this time we flew across the world or halfway across the world at least for realsies for realsies and joined some amazing people in palm springs so we were a little nervous going in because a we didn't know if anyone really listened to us well i don't they probably still don't in fact we've put more people off than we've turned on i'm sure we didn't know what most of the hosts were going to be like we've listened to their shows before or many of their shows but we hadn't really met them in person we know only a few people going in so we were going in quite dry would you say didn't even take me out of a drink first well what we did know is that kate puts on amazing events yeah so we had faith in kate oh we absolutely had faith that kate was going to deliver something spectacular we just didn't know what that was going to look like because we've got nothing to really compare it to exactly so we got there a couple of days early to chill out and get used to the insane heat well thank god we did and the eight hour difference in time zone and once you talked me out of getting back in the airport where it was cold and not battling the heat, we stayed.
Exactly, we stayed. And what was really amazing was actually as people came into the hotel and we started to meet more and more people, each person was more amazing than the next. Oh, wow. No pressure. So if we met you last, you are the most amazing of all people. So guess 166. You were fantastic.
Guess one started amazing, and by the time we'd met everybody and we thought that everyone was really awesome yeah from the guests to the hosts to the organizers everyone did a fantastic job and it was so lovely just to kind of rock up hang shoot the shit chill out of the pool go to some seminars and actually get to know people yeah no i completely agree so we didn't go to a great many of the seminars in fact i think we only ended up going to one because we're having so much fun chilling out and talking to people yeah actually we definitely don't call me ashley definitely made the effort to try and attend one and then we were busy prepping our own sort of seminar so we missed another one but i i agree we were hanging around the pool like so much it was just yeah it was just lovely to hang around and talk to people who we've spoken to online for such a long time and meet a whole bunch of new people as well yeah what i did want to say is that all of the evening things all of the parties all of the costumes were incredible and people put so much effort into all of that stuff so what you're saying is you want the permission to buy more costumes.
Yeah, if anything. Because you think they were really good. They were really good. They upped their game, so I need to therefore up my game. 80% more sparkle in future events. Yeah, the big question, I guess, is would we go back to PCAP? 100%. 100%. Well, I would. Yeah. I'll go on my own. Yeah, all right. I guess that seminar went really well. I would 100% go back to another PCAP event. I would too.
I'll see on my own yeah all right I guess that seminar went really well I would 100% go back to another PCAP event I would too I'd go 110% yeah well you always have to be extra don't you I am very extra so before we dial off or stop recording we wanted to say some thank yous firstly we want to say thank you to all the people who attended and came along to PCAP it It was an absolute pleasure to meet you all and everyone was universally awesome. So I don't think we got a chance to speak to everybody because there were just so many people. But everyone we spoke to was fantastic.
All of the costumes, all of the efforts, all of the behaviours, all of this stuff was just great. And it's actually some of the best atmospheres we've seen in a lifestyle event. I agree.
It was community of like-minded people all there for a common ground which is to meet and have great time absolutely secondly we want to say thank you to all of the other hosts some of these people we've listened to their podcasts mrs h may not have heard their podcasts what's a podcast exactly that but it was absolutely fantastic again to meet some of the people that we've chatted to online to get to know them better to spend time helping the other hosts to muck in to help guests together all this sort of stuff was really cool and i really loved the community spirit that was developed as a result of that it was lovely to put faces to names yeah superhero names as well but actually put faces to names because you you kind of go through all these journeys sort of trying to imagine how people are going to be when you meet them and it was just amazing to finally meet hug say hi all the stuff 100% that and again like all of the other guests we didn't even get chance to get around and speak to everybody as much as we wanted to so we definitely need to go back and do that the last thank you and I'm sure everyone will say this is a huge massive thank you to kate we're incredibly pleased that she invited us to come along and support we're incredibly proud to have done so and i think she just put on a really cool kick-ass event that was so different to anything else that we've been to absolutely now she should be kicking back and having a glass of champagne i hope she is i would say my my only regret is that it wasn't slightly longer because i think four days is just not enough to fit everything that you want to try and fit into an event like that but obviously it has to have a you know finite number of days it has to end at one point but let's start a chant everybody join in 10 day p cap 10 day p cap you know i think my seven days would be perfect seven days.
Yeah, it's just not enough time to fit it all in. Well, on that note... Well, that's because we're all having such a good time. Well, if that happens, we'll do our very, very best to be there. Thank you, everyone. You've been absolutely amazing. Hey, babe. It's your friendly Canadian Honeyspoon, who is suffering greatly from post-Peacap withdrawal that I hold you fully responsible for. So this is our third Pe third PCAP event and even though I say it every time, you managed to outdo yourself once again, Kate. Between the location, the venue, the host, everything was really fantastic.
I wanted to comment that I really like that you introduced a younger demographic of hosts and content creators. Mr. Honeyspoon and I spent some time talking with them at the pool and discussing our relationship dynamics and what our approach was to non-monogamy or is to non-monogamy and I feel like we all came out of that discussion having a lot more in common than we figured we had going in. That really is the beauty of PCAP, you know, the ability to bring people together in an open safe and positive environment. I just love that.
Ultimately every time I leave PC pcap i miss my people and these pcappers are all my people and our tribe and we're gonna miss them all dearly i especially miss you already and it's been a week that i haven't seen your face but you know i am just so proud of you and i'm so fortunate to be a part of this community and i thank you again for everything that you do for us and it was great love you hi this is j&j from colorado we're new to the lifestyle just under a year this was our first pcap our first hotel takeover our first big event we were blown away it was amazing we got to thank our friends the triple x files for talking us into going it was so amazing we really didn't know what to expect when they talked us into the event but we were glad we went i really enjoyed the mix of events and the themes and throughout the time i felt safe and felt like everyone was very consensual with their activities.
Met so many cool people at the event. We spent most of our time at the pool. Wish we went more to the seminars. The seminars we did go to were spot on. I went to the lingerie swap. It wasn't necessarily a seminar, but I had a lot of fun meeting the other women and found it to be really empowering. And I went to the whiskey tasting and Mickey sure knows his whiskeys and met more people there. We also went to Black and Kinky's photo seminar and learned a lot of new tricks. Very entertaining. So awesome.
Yeah, we came home tired with lots to talk about and a stronger connection as a couple can't wait for next year and want to thank kate and all of the sponsors for a wonderful time yes kate did an awesome job and all the podcasters it was great to meet you i'm looking forward to next time thanks hey y'all this is rebecca and this is mark and we are going to talk today about pcap 2022 you had such a great time out there oh yeah it was a blast so we actually just got married at the end of April. Badass.
Uh, we decided to cut our vanilla honeymoon short and we kind of decided last minute to go to pick up for our LS honeymoon and we're so happy. We did it. It was a pretty good trade off. I think. Yeah, definitely. It was a blast. We had so much fun, so much sexiness, so much conversations, just everything you can imagine. It was amazing. Yeah. So coming up to the event, like, did you have any fears or concerns? My biggest fear was not making it. There for a second, I didn't think we were going to make it. Oh, yeah.
Everything out of Texas was starting to get shut down to get shut down everybody's getting rerouted and yeah we did pretty good though yeah we did good we we had maybe less than a month to come up with our costumes and i think we did them last minute what about the event itself did you have any fears about the event about the event um just meeting everybody and having a good time and just making sure that we presented our best selves to everybody and didn't get too drunk or um so yeah we were just wanting to come with our best foot forward and have a good time and i think we did that yeah uh we found out that our good friends our good ls friends sebastian nicole were going as well so we hooked up with them and made a whole thing out of it and it was a blast we hooked up and hooked up we hooked up and hooked up i think for me my biggest fear was going into this and not i guess not fitting in you know feeling like we didn't belong or Or, I don't know, we weren't sexy enough or cool enough or peak happy enough to be peak happy.
not I guess not fitting in you know feeling like we didn't belong or I don't know we weren't sexy enough or cool enough or p-cappy enough to be p-cappers I think that's probably was uh the biggest thing let's do biggest lesson learned what do you think uh biggest lesson learned to be honest showing up on time I did not think that swingers were so punctual and they are when they say nine o'clock they mean nine o'clock yeah i think here when we go out with friends it's like you know we'll show up like 10 30 10 10 30 and we tried to do that at least two of the nights and yeah i think both times people had already sometimes left sometimes got their party on yeah they're the we just kind of came at the end of it yeah that's that's probably the biggest thing that i wish i would have changed was showing up on time nine o'clock when they say nine o'clock be there nine o'clock i think for me it was uh really how big confidence how big a part it actually takes so you go like these you know last month or two dieting and and trying to work out where you can fit it in and stuff and trying to be the best physical self you can be but in the end i think really what mattered was how confident we were and how comfortable we were with ourselves i think that was probably the biggest thing that i noticed that i was like oh crap like we can do this this is pretty cool yeah definitely we you know just had the wedding and then after the wedding we had a little bit of wedding weight that's a lot of cake but yeah i mean we made it and it was so much fun and a blast and and i think it did bring up our confidence a lot to be honest um we did go in it go into it kind of not really knowing what to expect and yeah we walked around that pool even in a mankini i look pretty damn good you did you ooze confidence and i love that yeah that was a that took that took some effort putting it on and walking out of the room uh what about a sexy snapshot ah sexy snapshot so many there was a lot for me one of my favorite parts was dancing with you on the dance floor you know coming from this such a vanilla vacation and being around your family and your friends and vanilla friends and not being able to really dance and just be us.
So that first night on the dance floor was us. And you say you can't really dance. You're talking about like shake your ass, right? Well, yeah. And, uh, yeah. And a thong and the shortest dress you could find the shortest skirt you can find. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, it was a lot of fun.
You and I got to dance to dance i just remember being on that dance floor and dancing like you you brought out your dance moves and i loved them and it was so much fun and that was a huge sexy part for me to be honest one of my other favorite ones uh it was again the first night it was kind of towards the end of the night everybody was kind of going off doing their thing maybe the we wanted to go check out the playroom so we wanted to go check out the first night I had my lit up whip that was a big hit I only had like a week to practice with it so I didn't really know it very well so anytime you came up to me and asked me I let you I let you handle it see what you got um but it was towards the end of the night the night we were we had I had this beautiful woman just come running up to me uh she loved the whip she wanted to try it I let her try it we danced she whipped me we had a good time we went to like the main like corridor kind of where you go off to like the elevators or the the stairs and we go to introduce ourselves and sure enough it's Mallory and Mickey.
Had no idea it was them. We had like a 10-minute dance conversation before we even knew it was them. So I love the fact that we met them so organically and raw and it was beautiful and I wouldn't have met them any other way to be honest. It wasn't like a look there's Mickey and Mallory Let's meet them.
No, it was very organic very raw and I wouldn't have met them any other way to be honest I it wasn't like a oh look there's Mickey Mallory let's meet them no it was very organic very raw and I love that and had such a fantastic time with them in that moment and that was another sexy moment thank you Mallory for whipping me with my whip you can whip me anytime and Mark you can you can whip him anytime Dang, i think that's probably some of the sexy snapshots i took uh your interaction with other people with the whip the kissing of course that was fun there was a six-handed massage at one point that was real fun yeah i'm sure you all hear about it that's in some other way or form but there was a really good massage that happened and that was real fun so yeah that was pretty cool what was your favorite seminar well we went to monogamous marriage one we went to black and kinky and we went to the casual swinger honestly I loved I loved all of them horse and black and kinky you were the balcony guy so that was a lot of fun featuring you i love the fact that we got to interact and use the hotel you know they told us to leave for 10 minutes take some pictures come back and we got to talk about them and i love that interaction of leaving and interacting with the other couples and being able to talk and love that part of that of their seminar uh mickey and mallory's was we learned we learned a lot of stuff it made us real scared to record video but also we feel a lot safer doing it now yes definitely definitely yeah so I mean all of them were great the ones that we went to we had a good time we learned a lot to be honest yeah I think we're we're kind of on the same page I think those were both really good ones um as far as like topics that I think that we're gonna use in the future for sure also memorable mention would be uh monogamous the separate play that was really fun to listen to and their dynamic and i thought that was really good too yeah it makes you think makes you question yeah are we ready for that oh does it yeah definitely okay we'll talk about that later okay sounds good to me i like it i think that's about it guys thank you so much for listening oh i got one tip tips for new peacoppers like somebody that might be coming to 2023 what do you think don't overthink it that's a big one oh we overthought it we over packed well we can never over pack but just don't overthink it we we didn't know what to expect we've had we've heard all the other podcasters talking about the past podcast paloozas but we didn't know what to expect on our own and we definitely overthought it and everybody was so welcoming welcoming and beautiful and lovely and we had great conversations in the pool uh we had great conversations everywhere i mean we just i wouldn't change a thing to be honest like we well maybe some more play time or maybe some um being there on time but some daytime play time and i think that was probably the biggest thing is like i wish we would have played a little bit earlier in the day yeah um maybe fit in a few other oh yeah i would have liked to have taken more shots at people, like, try to, like, shoot your shot.
Yeah, I wish I would have shot my shot, I guess. I shot. the other oh yeah i would have liked to have taken more shots at people like try to like shoot your shot i shot my shot i guess i shot my shot i tried but i think we did pretty good yeah next time i think we'll have a little bit more confidence because we'll know what to expect a little bit more yeah and we'll definitely shoot our shot i think i think for sure your tip is on point overthinking probably did in. The whole last month that we were doing this, we were so worried about A, B, or C. And in the end, guys, just do it.
It's a lot of fun. It's worth all the sacrifice that goes into these events on our side. And thank you, Kate, and everybody who helped put this together because it created an experience like no other. And I And I hope that we can make 2023. Yeah, girls, you wear those cheeky bottoms and guys, you wear those mankinis. Oh, yeah. The mankinis were a hit, guys. We loved it, yes. Don't be too shy. All right. Thank y'all so much for listening and having us. And we can't wait for the next one. Thank you, Kate.
And I missed you, Daryl we missed you happy late birthday she's been crushing on you man just a little bit all right guys this was Mark and Rebecca I think y'all thank you so much hey Mark and Rebecca thank you so much for spending your honeymoon at PCAP sorry I wasn't there to say congrats in person and give you both a hug, but I hope you had an awesome time. I believe you did. And just an extra hello for Rebecca. I'm looking forward to meeting you at some point in the future. London from Dub.8 here.
Just want a big shout out to all of the content creators for bringing together such an amazing community and a really special thank you for those two that came all the way from Europe. Bedhoppers from England, nice to see some fellow representation from the UK, but a really special thank you to Kate coming all the way from the Netherlands and once again putting on a truly spectacular event. We love you, Kate. Hiya, it's Dublin from Dub Donate here.
I really love coming out to the pool every morning and seeing people everywhere in the pool at the bar playing games being comfortable being sexy looking fantastic laughing and smiling and being able to wander up to anybody lay down on a bed next to anybody and just start a conversation everybody was friendly everybody had open arms it was truly spectacular to feel so welcome by everybody hey Kate it's not your average Mr. and Mrs.
and we're giving you our PCAP recap oh yes favorite or least favorite part of PCAP I don't actually have a least favorite part of PCAP too short it was amazing it was too short for me it was too short I just need more time I'm slow to warm up I'm not like some people that are just sporty I don't know. I have a least favorite part of PCAP. Too short. It was amazing. It was too short for me. It was too short. I just need more time. I'm slow to warm up. I'm not like some people that are just sporty out of the gate. It takes me a little while. And it was still too short for me. Yes, definitely.
There's more work to be done. My favorite part was meeting people that I'd only known online through Twitter or through their podcast. And re-meeting people that I had met previously but hadn't seen for a while and making new friends I didn't know at all. And meeting these amazing podcasters that have put so much of their hearts out there for us to learn from so that we don't have to make all the mistakes on our own. We can we can learn through their experiences. And that's huge. Right. All right. What is a seminar you enjoyed and why? Not your average missus.
I really enjoyed the separate play seminar with Monogamish because, as it turned out, I did a lot of separate play this PCAP.
And that was a whole new thing that I found highly enjoyable and we had never tried before right so it was really good to get that input as we were embarking upon said things yeah and that really ties into a bunch of your other questions here with our you know sexiest thing the sexiest thing i saw was this woman being her true self just owning who she is making her decisions deciding what she wanted to do and just you know i'm glad she uses her power for good because she could she could rule the world and well that may not go so well My sexy snapshot would be getting all dressed up to go wait in the hotel lobby and wait for a friend to go have a fabulous afternoon.
A long afternoon. It was amazing. All right. How about your biggest lesson learned and a snapshot of personal growth okay well my biggest lesson learned is as certain broadcasters are known to say that i should use my motherfucking words because if i had i could have had yet another experience i would have really liked to have but didn't actually follow through on like i should have Thank you.
fucking words because if i had i could have had yet another experience i would have really liked to have that didn't actually follow through on like i should have so lesson learned well here's the hard one biggest lesson learned and a snapshot of personal growth like we said this was our first experiences with separate play and we're actually fairly new to the lifestyle under a a year. First two separate play experiences went incredibly. We connected immediately after. I'm at the pool, hanging out with friends. I high-five her when she gets back, give her a hug, and it's amazing.
She's glowing. She's smiling. This is exactly what I hoped for.
The third experience, it was a little more difficult because the play experience went on for a while, we had dinner plans we had reservations so immediately we had to get ready i we couldn't decompress couldn't spend time together go to dinner dinner's over dinner goes long now it's time for the party so we get ready and we go to the party and then once I got to the party that something whatever it was hit me but here is the amazing part here's the personal growth for both of us she was seeing me and we left the party for about an hour and just spent some time together and that completely saved my feeling of the whole experience because she was paying attention and was willing to invest time in me and that was life-changing so what we've got to do going forward is schedule that reconnection time and make it a priority you know not roll from one thing to the next it has to be intentional and also while your partner is off playing it's got to find things to do you know you'd think it'd be easy to find something to do with hundreds of your best friends at the pool but i didn't really feel comfortable having conversations with people because, you know, like, what do I say if they ask me where Not Your Average Mrs.
is? And it's like, I'm not ready to give that information up. So I just kind of was by myself for a little bit too long. So the key is be occupied, plan that aftercare and that time with the non-playing partner, and just pay attention. Watch out for each other. And it's really been an incredible thing for us. And I think we're closer now than we have ever been. Biggest fear going into the event and was the fear as expected on site?
I didn't actually have any fears going into the event yeah i had no fears kate you're a badass great yeah everything was fantastic we were thrilled with start to finish every bit of it well it needed to be longer but you know then it needed to be longer that's what she said next up is personal growth that's a big one so for me personal growth is tied to the separate play um i found the separate play to be amazingly impactful on my self-confidence but also so empowering because i could just follow the chemistry and i didn't have to worry if there was a four-way connection and I didn't have to worry about splitting my focus and making sure that you were okay in a play.
I could just focus on the person I was with and really just dive into the experience and that ability to just freely experience it and not have to worry was so profound it was just an amazing thing and I felt like it flowed over into the times when we played together with other people that I felt more confident and more able to just get into the moment and not be so concerned about what was going on with you because I'd had those experiences. So for me, the separate play was the most impactful thing for my personal growth. Hi, Kate. We are Mr. and Mrs. R.
Desert Heat, and we had a fantastic time attending PCAP in Palm Springs last weekend. Yes, this was our second PCAP. We did do Dallas and now Palm Springs. And you put on, you are such an amazing event organizer and the themes are, I've always been someone who's intimidated. We have never even been to Desire yet. So the costume theme nights intimidate me a little bit, but I've had so much fun. We have had so much fun for both events, coming up with great costumes for each of the nights and all the extra effort you put into every little detail is just amazing. Yeah, Kate, you're the best.
We love, it was such a great event. We really enjoyed seeing so many great people that we met in Dallas. We haven't been to many other events, but the Peacappers are really, really amazing. It is a really great group of people.
I mean, every single person that we met was just so friendly and warm and caring, and everybody was out to help one another the whole weekend whether it be you know somebody needing an eyeglass repair kit or whatever it may be you know it's just such a great group of people and it feels truly like going to summer camp for adults and we we always say that and we've said that after both events it's just absolutely fantastic oh it's so hard getting back into normal life after a weekend of PCAP. It's just, it's adult serma camp.
Yes, and it was especially wonderful because it was my birthday that weekend.
Thursday was my 50th birthday, and we had some really awesome friends that came out by the pool and surprised me with birthday sash and got the entire crowd at the the pool singing happy birthday to me and that was unexpected and a lot of fun and i had a lot of attention on me but it was it was a great time we all love our precious gems we just had a wonderful time we had several uh really close friends of ours that we spent time with uh while we were there that we had planned ahead of time and that was kind of a first for us doing that but it felt it was a great event all it seemed like all of our best friends were there and then we also had the opportunity to to make some new friends that we we think are going to become really special long-term friends as well and that's always uh you know something you don't necessarily expect but you hope for yeah really cool people and i'm super glad we had the opportunity to meet them and yeah just talk to them be you know make friends and then just so many friends that we've met in the lifestyle in general it's a small small world and you know it just wonderful time hanging out sharing meals and moments in the pool just with with friends who we just adore yes love love seeing all of our good friends and yes thank you kate so much you're the best yes thank you kate hello this is sebastian and nicole nicole's curled up on the couch but still looking incredibly sexy even though she's currently wearing a duvet but that's all right a duvet in phoenix in the summer so nicole what did you enjoy most about pcap outside of any playtime i really felt like pcap was I'll see you next time.
but that's all right. A duvet in Phoenix in the summer. So, Nicole, what did you enjoy most about PCAP outside of any playtime? I really felt like PCAP was really well organized. I loved the fact that we had an app associated with the events. We had a chance to connect with some, make some connections prior to the event. I love the fact that there was an agenda.
I'm very type A, so that really helped my anxiety and my need for preparation because I had an idea idea of what we wanted to do and i loved the setup of kind of choose your own adventure if you wanted to be in the pool all day cool if you wanted to go to every session available cool when we got to really pick and choose the things that we really wanted to do i tend to get really kind of nervous leading up to events like this because i'm a bit introverted and i felt like this event i felt pretty comfortable pretty quickly which doesn't happen very often and I loved that it wasn't just here's a pool here's some booze go and I really appreciated being able to see some of the faces to some of our favorite lifestyle podcasts where we've learned a lot and I really loved the connections we made in the pool and I'd say if we're talking about themes i felt like the theme choices were really fun and creative and it really allowed people to go above and beyond just the normal swinger standard typical theme it allowed everybody to go a little extra in a positive way and have fun with it and everybody really did show up in terms of their costumes and their outfits and it made it really fun to see what everybody come up with so that was a really positive it was a real positive as well i like the community aspect of it i thought everybody was really genuine and warm and friendly you know with a side eye to wanting to undress you but that's all right that's normal and um to be expected but just a really fun group of people and we actually enjoyed connecting with people regardless of whether or not there was going to be any outcome just to get to know them listen to their stories and just really enjoy their their company we got to enjoy this event uh with a couple that we've known the last couple of years which i thought was a really big plus because we got to spend time together and also spend time as a group we got to enjoy our first five hand massage or five person massage experience in the sensual massage space which was a very new experience for us very sexy both enjoyed it yes it was definitely a new experience to have that many hands on you at once but it was also very arousing and uh really enjoyable i think the comments that i made when i was on the table was i don't know if i'm more relaxed or turned on right now i just really enjoyed all of the sensory and the sexy environment because it was dark room with basically flickering candlelight pillar candles with smells and scents lots of sexy people and sexy hand placements i don't know what you mean um no that was that was certainly a really good memory but like you mentioned getting to connect with our friends again in that type of environment and go with our friends that certainly gave it gave us both couples gave us a base to go off and explore and socialize and chat with other people but then we always had each other to come back to and i think for us as first timers that just made it a lot easier now for those of you who got to know us you'll you'll probably know that i'm a little bit of an extrovert no really and nicole is a little quieter but for me seeing her grow and be comfortable and confident going out and talking on her own and making connections by herself and just seeing her you know be comfortable doing that whilst wearing pasties is is is really fun and you know i i enjoy seeing that part of your own sort of growth and experience so that's fun for me what about for you i also appreciated being able to learn people's dynamic there was a quad of a group that were on the polyamorous side so it was really nice to actually be able to kind of learn a little bit more about their community compared to swinger community and just being able to kind of understand those sides of where we come or another side yeah another side a little difference in i guess their experience and compared to ours and i just thought it was great that this uh event was so inclusive just all different types of relationships and uh preferences and it wasn't excluding really any group and i really appreciated just the openness of this type of event and of course i got to spend three days in a pool surrounded by beautiful women.
Don't think you could ask for a lot more than that, really. That was a definite plus. And beautiful men. There were some very good-looking men there as well. Well, I was there, so clearly, you know, there were many good-looking men there, and I clearly am the best. I think his British is showing.
I don't know what what you mean i don't have a superiority complex at all but no it was just a genuinely really fun fun weekend and for us you know we've been looking for events where you get that combination of there's structure to it there's you can you there's a community to it you can learn from it you can socialize with people work regardless of outcome they're not just looking for one thing and then you can also go get that one thing when when you want it so or when you make that right connection so yeah that was that was all good for us as as pcap virgins our pcap cherries firmly popped and we'll be back leave.
I really loved the playroom at PCapp. I'm not big into going into playrooms, but this playroom was awesome. It was this giant room with lots of couches for people to sit, play, do whatever on the couches. There was a massage table. There were these, there are motor bunnies there. There was the liberator chairs. Those are those curved chairs. There was a shadow box. It was just incredible. It was really well supplied with plenty of towels and lube and condoms.
And it was just very exciting to sit with my spouse on a couch and we could see all these things going on and then to participate in some of those things going on and it was just super sexy even to the next day when some of the people we'd been flirting with but hadn't connected yet said they saw us there and they watched us and they liked what they saw and that was such a turn on it even turns me on just sharing about it but it was really exciting and we went to the playroom every night so and we never do that it's sometimes we go to events or to resorts and we don't even go to the playroom for years of going to the resort.
So that really says something that I really like, the playroom. Thanks, Kate. Hello, I'm Tiffany Cheeks on Instagram. And I'm Mr. Tiffany Cheeks, not on Instagram, but the man behind the camera. This was our first PCAP. Everyone was so welcoming. We met so many amazing couples and made some real connections. We just celebrated our 24th wedding anniversary and have been talking about the lifestyle for several years now. Our interest only increased as we listened to several of the lifestyle podcasters featured at this year's PCAP.
On the first night of PCAP, we had our first full swap experience with a really great couple and it was amazing. We wouldn't have changed a thing. One of the most common questions asked during an event like this is how long have you been in the lifestyle? I think our answer moving forward will be since PCAP 2022. We enjoyed several of the workshops, our time in the pool, and dressing up in theme for the evening parties. But one of our favorite moments would have to be on the last day of PCAP.
We had the opportunity to spend a little extra time with the bedhoppers as we gave them a ride to lax we're big fans of the podcast and we enjoyed getting to know them on a personal level thank you kate we can't wait for the next pcap event hey kate it's r and r the xxx files just wanted to record some of our thoughts on how much fun we had at pcap and what some of our favorite things were and uh just touch on some other things as well but mrs r you want me to go first you're first oh. Always first. Well, I loved everything. I got super excited every single day.
And it was like hopping around, jumping everywhere. I loved meeting everyone again. And I think meeting people for the second time, some for the first time, really made me more comfortable opening up and really made some cool connections.
And I think to know people a lot better of course met the amazing bed hoppers pool time was great i loved every second of that ruled jan and g's first uh game saran wrap it was it was uh it was amazing got to thank people my bitch with mallory's awesome light-up shoes I got pictures of that I guess my favorite was just seeing people again really connecting with people and of course Kate you're amazing what she said my all of that was my favorite part as well really getting to meet everyone again from last event at Dallasallas continuing those relationships were really good for me being an introvert and a wallflower i was able to really just go in and and get to it like she said miss meeting the bed hoppers was absolutely my favorite part of the week they kept me laughing non-stop both of them spending time in the pool um that was different than dallas the pool wasn't really available uh as much there as it was this time full time full time great and then i also wanted to talk a little bit about my session oh yeah my favorite uh sessions which of course, I thought the most educational one for our community was Mickey and Mallory, the casual swingers, just security is such a thing in what we do.
We want to protect our faces if we're not out. So learning more about that was definitely helpful. And getting to be a prop for Mallory's sex positions, whereas that was lovely as well. So I appreciate that. Oh, a snapshot of something sexy, I think, is, again, the pool. We keep on coming back to the pool, but just being in the middle, surrounded by, you know, 50, 100 people and just really connecting with a certain someone and not really noticing that there was anyone around. Just being in the moment was really super sexy for me. Cool. And Pokemon tattoos. Cool.
Oh, I wanted to give a little bit of a piece of advice for future attendees of events like these something that we did this time around was we gave ourselves even more extra time at the event meaning we arrived several days early we arrived on tuesday the event didn't start till friday and that allowed us to really, like, get to know other people on a different level, as opposed to just seeing across the room, walking up, hey, you want to get out of here? That's just not how we go. So that was really good.
And then giving yourself time after the event to kind of, like, relax and, like, not get back on the road or get back on that flight immediately really helped us kind of get centered and get ready for future events and whatnot so yeah yeah is that it I think that's it yeah thanks kate thanks bye and one more thing i totally kicked your ass at Pac-Man.
